If there was ever a welfare program that needed reformed it is the US Farm bill. Obama should come out here and see what his push to subsidize ethanol has done to the price of farm land in Iowa. These people don't need any more hand outs. ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!

UAW,

You really should do some research. There are no subsidies for corn. That expired Jan. 1.

BUT...There is a mandate for ethanol blended fuels. It's called the Renewable Fuel Standard:

The RFS program was created under the Energy Policy Act (EPAct) of 2005, and established the first renewable fuel volume mandate in the United States. As required under EPAct, the original RFS program (RFS1) required 7.5 billion gallons of renewable- fuel to be blended into gasoline by 2012.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/renewablefuels/index.htm

Yes, created in 2005. Guess who was responsible for that decision?

And so does Iowa's GOP Senator Chuck Grassley want answers from Mitt Romney.

Hey Detroit, Please stop lying about "No Subsidies for Corn". Google US Farm Subsidies. It is public information you can see how many "poor" Iowa farmers get $$ millions of dollars in "corn subsidies" including my family. Heck I've got a son in law who gets farm subsidies on a recreational "deer preserve" that is large enough to make the payment on that land he has never farmed in his life. The Farm Bill needs reformed not pandered to another group for votes....

The problems with Paul Ryan are so many, let us count the ways...

But the farm bill is one great example. The Dems got rid of subsidies for NOT growing crops and wanted to prevent food stamps from being decimated -- This is why Teapublicans like Ryan have blocked passage, they want to continue corporate welfare at the expense of poor children getting food. It's an excellent example of what is wrong with the rightwing, which boils down time and again to the 1% versus the rest of the nation.

UAW Pleeeeease - how sad you have a son in law who is such a cheat!

Obama/Biden 2012

UAW, I'm not lying. YOU said "push to subsidize ethanol". Care to read your post again? There are no subsidies for corn to ethanol. Sorry if I confused you by staying on topic and proving you wrong.

When Obama comes to Iowa and talks about the farm bill he reminds me of the hapless president in the movie "IDIOCRACY". In fact his entire cabinet could have starred in that movie... ROMNEY/RYAN 2012......

How do you criticize Paul Ryan as a VP candidate when your own running mate is Joe Biden?! Can't wait to see the VP guys debate. Should be entertaining.

This is a perfect example of how the REAL Paul Ryan differs dramatically from the Ryan being presented by the GOPTP and the Conservative echo chamber. Ryan is a lynchpin of the Republican effort to gridlock Congress no matter how badly the nation is hurt by their intractable partisanship.

UAW, If your son in law is applying for a farm subsidy for land that has never been farmed, don't you think he's breaking the law?

Does your son in law feel he's entitled to this "free" tax payer money?

Joe Biden will demolish Paul Ryan on Foreign Policy – can’t wait !!

Obama wasn't in IDIOCRACY, but Fox News was, and they got the story wrong as usual. You really need to pay attention.

UAW, how many times to I have to tell you to read the entire post. The RFS was put into law by the President who was in power in 2005. Have we forgotten who that was?

oh my...Ryan and Romney want to rip the heads off school children and starve them to death??? I did not know that. It's good the Dems got rid of subsidies to not grow things...they started them.

Let's not forget the THOUSANDS of jobs being lost when the DOD Budget cuts come into play. Oh, Mr. Obama's Labor Department has asked the Defense Contractors to NOT REPORT THESE JOB LOSSES UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION.

Let's not forget Mr. Obama's administration involvement in the Black Farmers FRAUD wasting MILLIONS and MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to folks WHO DON'T/DIDN'T farm.

And where is Mr. Obama going to get the $ 150,000,000 for this draught initiative ? And why is FOOD STAMPS embedded into this legislation ?

Mr. Obama is going to continue his Obama WELFARE STATE until the day he departs the White House in early 2012. It will be NICE, for once, to see him wave from the top steps of the ladder as he gets into Marine One for his LAST trip from the White House lawn. Maybe he will decide to "retire" in Georgia and be a next door neighbor to Mr. Jimmy Carter.

Fuzzy, You don't have to farm to get the subsidy you just have to be the owner of the land. This has been going on for years. Just as millions of people have lived off other forms of welfare for decades. That's why we need a guy like Paul Ryan who will bring serious legislation to all forms of entitlement reform. We should be embracing politicians like him. ROMNEY/RYAN 2012

Bruce-308647 - Hahaha, wow you throw out a false equivalency of a VP with far more seniority and foreign policy etc. from the Senate who actually ran for POTUS and was on a ticket already elected by a landslide -- to some dweeb in the House with ZERO gravitas other than his budget plan deemed "not serious." WTF is wrong with rightwingers's and their inability to use Rule of Reason?

Carpenters movie, "They Live" is happening in real life, and the signal is originating from Faux Nuze. Now find your glasses!

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio....."Joe Biden will demolish Paul Ryan on Foreign Policy – can’t wait !!"

Yep, I can hardly wait to hear what Jumping Joe has to say about his college graduation speech comments, like, "growing plants without soil, water, or sun" and to explain what "Senior Spots" mean.

And, if Biden had anything to do with Mr. Obama's decision on the "Arab Spring" countries, it was a total and complete International policy disaster.

Can you say "Suicide" and Gift to the "Democrat's" ?

Thanks.

4 more years.

bagdadjoe-1347766 -- Another example of the GOPee Wee Herman "I know you are, but what am I?' childishness. The BIG PICTURE is that bills like the farm bill -- and transportation, raising the debt ceiling to pay our bills, and on and on have been bipartisan no-brainers throughout history. This is yet again an example of rightwing anarchy, to protest rather than govern, and most of all to throw YOU and other American s under the bus in an attempt to make the president and Dems look bad.

News98 -- Socialism is much better than rightwing fascism (or a plutocracy or oligarchy, ugh Christian theocracy), but you wouldn't know either if these bit you in the arse.

The Obama campaign is already attacking Paul Ryan with everything they've got because they are starting to realize that he has changed everything.

Women voters are going to connect with this intelligent, honest, charismatic young man, and that just scares the hell out of the Obamas. You can expect more Obama attack ads accusing Romney and Ryan of everything from killing old ladies, to poisoning the water and the air. But it's not going to work. Negative ads will only drive more people to listen to what Romney and Ryan have to say. Attack ads have a way of coming back and hitting you in your face!

Watch out MSNBC, your guy might be in trouble...

At least Mr. Romney has a clear record on where he stands when it comes to ethanol subsidies:

"I support the subsidy of ethanol. I believe ethanol is an important part of our energy solution in this country." - Mitt Romney, 5/27/2011

"He supports ethanol but he doesn't believe any subsidy is permanent." - Eric Fehrnstrom, Romney Campaign spokesperson, 11/2/2011

Obama is just pandering again. Based on the latest corn harvest projections, even with the drought, it will be the 3rd largest corn yield on record.

He just can't bring himself to yield to those who know ethanol is a boondoggle for corn farmers and ethanol producers.

Ido-

Those jobs will only be lost if the Repubs fail to compromise (and compromise does not mean getting 100% of what you want).

The Food Stamp issue is in the Farm Bill because.....the Republicans put it there in an effort to get their way.

UAW Pleeeeeease - oh yeah! Let's put the First Lady down for showing young people how to eat healthy and for showing people with limited means how to grow their own food! How outrageous! What a horrible example for our country!

GROW UP! Do you have any idea how petty and small your post is? You honestly should be ashamed although I know you are not intelligent enough to get it!

Obama/Biden 2012

For God's Sake take your meds this whole ramble made no sense.

Boehner lied. The house passed an emergency measure not the sweeping farm bill that was needed.

Boehner accused Obama of lying when he lied.

UAW, are you and your son-in-law two of those conservatives who are constantly whining about giveaway programs for the poor, wasteful spending for people who don't work, subsidies for things that don't need them...?

mel - UAW rarely makes sense!

**********NOTICE**********

For Mr. Obama: RYAN is not the Republican candidate for President, Gov. Romney is your "attack" target.

Now, "target" your deflections on who is RUNNING AGAINST YOU.

UAW, why is your son-in-law even taking the subsidies. If he isn't using the land for farming and taking government handouts; isn't he the same as those "libbies" taking the government handouts all the time without working, on welfare, having all those tech things, and living off the government?? Seems to me he should turn down those handouts since he doesn't need them, just like those unemployed shouldn't take unemployment benefits and get out and get a job. What a dumb statement for you to admit to.,

for those of you who say there are no farm subsidies they will pay you not to farm.so you can get funds to farm or not.

embodiment of House Republican refusal to pass a farm bill that would help states like Iowa.

Paul Ryan wants everybody to "embrace" his dumb a$$ budget, while at the same time his only purpose in Congress has been to repeal EVERYTHING THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS PROPOSED. RYAN IS SO entrenched in helping the 1%, he does not mind presenting himself as "strong" What he is is a BULLY. 2 different things.

"UAW"

My Mom grew her own vegetable garden in our back yard when I was a kid. You got a problem with that?

Obama is right on! The Farm Bill does stop at the foot of Ryan. Why do y'all think he's Chairman of the Budget Committee? Which by the way I noticed the article conveniently left out. Farm subsidies are hated by Big Oil because of ethanol and farmers competing with the big dogs for tax subsidies! Therein steps the Koch Brothers. Which is needed more, oil or farm subsidies? Thing of it is, farmers tend to be avid hunters therefor kiss Republican a$$ because of the NRA. The farmers don't realize Republicans don't give a rats a$$ about them other than tricking them for their vote.

f hill...."for those of you who say there are no farm subsidies they will pay you not to farm.so you can get funds to farm or not."

Exactly what happened in the Black Farmers FRAUD. Thousands claimed to be Black farmers than actually recorded, and the Obama Administration still gave them taxpayer dollars.

So, watch for a future report on Fraud concerning this Obama initiative.

JackieK, Go ahead and reform the farm bill so my son-in-law can't get a hand out. I dare you, march on Washington and demand entitlement reform! :)~

This country needs entitlement reform period. It's refreshing to see a politician like Paul Ryan make an effort to reform them all. A lot of common sense came to Washington in the election of 2010 that will carry on in 2012. ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!

"Women voters are going to connect with this intelligent, honest, charismatic young man, and that just scares the hell out of the Obamas."

Pretty sure the Obamas are not quaking in fear of this lunatic. I don't think any woman with any kind of self respect will be voting for same crazy people on the right who want to get their religious views into our pants. You would have to be absolutely ignorant to vote with a party who wants to take away your right to decide what is best for your own body.

The quote listed above reminds me of testimonials on web sites that are written by the web site themselves but think that anyone falls for their dribble.

Detroit-Storm

If Obama ever stopped campaigning long enough to visit Washington he would know that the house passed a farm bill 11 days ago before the recess BUT Harry and Co. did nothing about it and went home and those wind jobs BS, it takes people to build those money losing windmills that everyone hates but it does not take many people to run them; I have to laugh at the frenzy the Dems and Obama supporters are in now that Ryan is the VP pick.. LMAO at the clowns slinging lies and mud.

Detroit-Storm

The RFS program was created under the Energy Policy Act (EPAct) of 2005, and established the first renewable fuel volume mandate in the United States. As required under EPAct, the original RFS program (RFS1) required 7.5 billion gallons of renewable- fuel to be blended into gasoline by 2012.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/renewablefuels/index.htm

Yes, created in 2005. Guess who was responsible for that decision?

Oh gosh darn, this is a tough one.... let me think... uhmmmmm, I'm going to guess the democrats (aka Progressive Liberals, huh!) that controlled both of the legislative branches.

The very first sentence of the very first paragraph in link you offered, and I quote: "EPA is responsible for developing and implementing regulations to ensure that transportation fuel sold in the United States contains a minimum volume of renewable fuel."

I would HOPE you know a little something about the EPA, the infamous Federal Agency that Obama holds near and dear to his heart, and tried to use and blame for doing his dirty work and kill the Transcanadian pipeline (20,000 jobs), but did successfully used to kill off-shore drilling (12,000 jobs), both of which only served to artificially inflate energy prices.... which artificially inflated everything else on down the line.

Obama actually tried to increase the amount of ethenol content in our fuels, but his very own Union Crony's told him they could afford the R&D required to make automotive engines (all engines actually) durable enough to withstand it's harshness. Ethenol is pure garbage, it cost more to produce that what it returns, and it's a horrible fuel additive that destroys engines.

You really should learn to read before posting links as an attempt to show off, becaues all you did was show-off what you are ignorant about. Do yourself a favor and stop posting, and start reading.

The people are starting to show the "love and affection" that Ryan deserves

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/paul-ryan-heckled-at-iowa-state-fair/

Firefly-4334185 -- Agreed. Only white brainwashed Bachmann types who are not on Medicare that think women should be subservient to men will support Paul Ryan. This guy is not only the "eat the corn seed" austerity 1%er, but he is also a Teavangelical religious radical, AND a neocon. Romney couldn't find a more repulsive a combination if he had the original thought to look for one.

Romney and Ryan 'embody the (bipartisan) House' position on the farm bill as Obama suggests. Absolutely. It is the President that does not embody the will of the majority of Americans. It is the majority of Americans that control the House.

2010 was a mandate.

How dare those evil Republicans make it stop raining ? LOL !!

Every bill to "help" some segment of our population has other "STUFF" mixed in with the bill. There is always pork, and with Obama, there is always MORE GOVERNMENT control.

I am sure your candidate for Vice-President is telling the farmers. " I am helping you American farmers here in Iowa by CUTTING food stamps for the poor and unemployed."

So I just read that Oblahblah has promised the farmers that if they re-elect him, he will end the drought. Look it up... www.bs.com

Never ceased to be amazed at how utterly uninformed and ugly liberals can be. First, if you had the FACTS in your favor, you wouldn't have to resort to all the name calling and ranting you do against Republicans, conservatives, tea partiers. But then again, you have to rant to cover your stupidity. 1 - Farm Bill is NOT about farms, try approx 80% welfare spending. 2 - As an independent successful woman, I do NOT think Ryan and Romney are anti-woman. It's amazing how so many of you are the sheep that the Dumocrats lead by the nose. You don't know or understand how the tax base works and you are just jealous of others success instead of creating your own. Don't use the excuse that the rich are keeping you down. BS. Those people are far to busy trying to be successful to waste time on stopping your success. You do that yourselves by being whining, ugly, unmotivated people who only sit and moan about their lives on their news threads and blogs instead of WORKING to get ahead like Romney and Ryan did. Jealousy, the most pathetic emotion.

TO: UAW Pleeeeeeeease who wrote:

"If there was ever a welfare program that needed reformed it is the US Farm bill. Obama should come out here and see what his push to subsidize ethanol has done to the price of farm land in Iowa. These people don't need any more hand outs..."

Whaaaaat!

That's one of the RWN'S (Michelle Bachmann's) favorite hand-outs, Farm Aid!

As often as that woman claims to be rich you'd think she'd bypass "Farm Aid" but noooooo, Republicans take every penny of "Gobment Money" they can get their greedy little hands on, including Farm Aid, Farm Subsidies, etc., while criticize anybody if they were to "touch [their] money"!

Obama/Biden 2012

OklahomaMom, you have to be utterly uninformed to think liberals or anyone else needs to be convinced of anything by the democrats. Aren't the hundreds of laws republicans have been passing during the last year and a half to block womens access to abortions and even contraception a clear enough indicator of how they feel about womens rights? Trans-vaginal ultrasounds? Threatening doctors with jail to perform a legal procedure? Yet, mandating birth control coverage, when more than half of the opponents on the right already were covering birth control, is a 'war on religion'? Really. Then why had so many republican governors already put that same mandate in place in their states in recent years prior to health care reform?

You have no clue about your country or your political party.

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giggity!

Good idea to hit Ryan where it really hurts - that is - GOP has tried to rob everybody, including farmers.

RomneyHood ... rob Peter the Farmer to pay Paul ..Ryan : who represents the 1%

Oklahoma Mom: So you think YOUR rant isn't ugly?? Wow. You tell us all we need to know with your insistence you are an "independent, successful woman." A Christian too, I'll guess. Just not so much into doing what Jesus preached, and conveniently ignoring the entire lesson of the Bible, that we are our brothers' keeper. Take us right into the 'all-for-me-and f----you' cultural mold....

I'm an independent-minded, successful woman, too--and my guess is, less greedy and better educated!

Obama/Biden/ and a BLUE CONGRESS, wootwoot!

Did anyone pay attention to the corporate logo on the jet that the junior senator from Illinois was using on his entry into national politics in 2006?

ADM-Archer Daniels Midland-which also was a major recipient of the $1/gallon subsidy for the manufacture of corn ethanol. Good riddance to the subsidy.

Now, if we're going to use ethanol in blended fuel why aren't we using sugar ethanol which is more energy efficient? We could be getting sugar ethanol from Brazil delivered at the port of Houston for $0.97 / gallon. Who voted for the tariff on this import? The junior senator from Illinois, when he was present and voted something other than 'present'.

Corn needs to be used for food products and animal feed. Due to the drought we're going to be facing a rise in the price of groceries. The CEO of Cargill Industries and other meat producers have already raised the issue with the EPA of abating the use of corn ethanol to keep the food costs down for the American consumer. If farmers and ranchers can't afford feed they will be forced to cut back on the size of their operations and we will suffer at the market.

Why do we need farm subsidies again? Is the government preventing the growing of certain crops? Or is the government manipulating the market with certain crops? Or is Obama upset he can't get more people on food stamps?

Obama's a real live disaster.

Watch how the lies really get flowing now that Ryan has been chosen. Obama will tell people to just reach into their pockets and money will magically appear. His followers will actually check and Obama will tell them "it's Paul Ryan's fault that money's not there".

This debate is easily settled . . .

Put Obama/Biden on 40 acres and give Romney/Ryan a nearby 40. Provide them with seed and farm implements and come back in 4yrs . . . .

I wiould put my money on Romney/Ryan to have the successful farm and Harvest. It would take Biden at least 2 yrs to figure out how to use the tools and Obama will only want to argue and divide. This is completely obvious and extends to all other aspects of running a business, government etc.!

Now here's a thread where the majority of those posting are simply unaware of the specifics of the farm bill. It took until post 1.54 to find someone who understands.

1. With out ethanol subsidies, the ethanol plants will go out of business, as the process currently takes more money to produce than they can charge. This is once again, a wasted govt. plan for "alternative energy" that so far cannot support itself. So if the govt. so desperately wants ethanol, then they are going to have to subsidize.

2. Why in the H*ll is the majority of the funds for the farm bill going to the Snap program? At last I heard, over 70% of the bill went to food stamps. I have a big problem with that. Especially when I see people in the store buying junk food with their snap cards. So those of you who think all that money in the bill is going to farmers, or farm corporations, you are sadly mistaken, only a small % of the bill is for actual farm programs.

3. There are a variety of programs the govt. creates for different reasons. Don't assume the pay is all that great. Do you know why they have the subsidies? Try being at the bottom of the food chain and run a dairy farm on what you sell in milk. Not going to happen, the price is too low to sustain the farmer's operation. Currently, only about 2% of the American population are farmers. That means pretty much 98% of you have no clue what it takes. Let alone farmers who have to compete with those importing food into the country. Another reason the food stamp program shouldn't be funded as part of the farm bill.

4. Ryan and others are right to hold up the Farm bill. Get rid of the Food Stamps for starters. It will turn into a much different bill from that alone. We need to take a good hard look at the Food Stamp program. Food Stamps was meant for people to buy healthy food, not junk food and fast food. It should go back to being that type of program. Forcing that issue would save lots of money.

We have too many on the dole and not enough working. We need to get a President and Congress in place who will stop running manufacturing jobs out of the country. That is EXACTLY what we need, not more service jobs. Manufacturing jobs are the jobs that pay for service jobs, not the other way around.

ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 - for the good of the country!

willowbrook, I see your rant specifically over food stamps and all of the snack foods purchased with them. Most people, contrary to what you must believe, think that Americans in general should eat healthier. But healthier eating habits are directly related to how educated people are on healthy choices. And that's where your logic and the logic of people on the right fails, because every initiative democrats have put forth to educate and advocate for healthier eating habits republicans have shot down and made a mockery of it. Remember the government supposedly mandating us to eat broccoli? You can't criticize bad personal choices when you support politicians who actively fight against the all around benefits (even cost benefits for individuals and the nation) of quality education and access to it for all citizens.

There was a reason it was illegal to teach slaves to read

Interesting that the party opposed to birth control or abortions under any circumstance would deny food stamps to the babies born to mothers who can't afford them. I guess when they vote to cut food stamps, school nutrition programs and medicaid they'd rather have them sick and starved as long as they're alive when born. A republican compares making insurance cover birth control to the attack on Pearl Harbor and 9-11.

I find it interesting that these are the same people always ready to exterminate every man, woman, and child in some other country.

The most interesting part of this latest Obama lie is the fact that Ryan voted for a farm bill two weeks ago. Right now that farm bill is being held up by none other then do nothing Harry Reid. Seems that Obama and the Democrats wanted a five year farm bill agreement, so Harry Reid has decided not to even bring it to a vote. Just another lie liberals are spewing.

@ Brain Candy - 1st of all, there have been educational programs concerning healthy eating for decades, this is nothing new. What is also true is Food Stamp purchases were more restricted than it is today. (Also at the same time these educational programs were going on.) Several decades ago, you couldn't buy soda with Food Stamps, not so today. So, education doesn't work, restriction to healthy choices does. I'm sure the Democrats were responsible for lifting the restrictions. What about that?

I also ranted over the Food Stamps because they shouldn't be in the Farm Bill at all. We have folks carrying on about the cost of the bill, unaware that over 70% is a welfare program for those who are not Farmers.

Dee Turner

Oklahoma Mom: So you think YOUR rant isn't ugly?? Wow.

Agreed, and I also wonder what rabid rightwingers like Oklahoma Mom thought about the jet Paul Ryan flew in on (per the post above), and also the video of Paul Ryan dissing the drought in Iowa. Hmm, have any of you sh!theads watched that video of Ryan? Sweet Jeebus, how much more "out-of-touch' can a person be other than Mitt Romney?

Prove that Ryan was among those in the House who voted for the Farm Bill -- I can't find anything other than rightwing websites claiming the president lied about Paul Ryan. Regardless (and until this is confirmed by a reliable source), we know while Ryan has been on the budget committee, he has blocked many things from transportation, jobs bills, even Simpson Bowles.

Get a clue, these Robber Barons aren't in it for you.

Sailcat-2064101

President Obama by default in November! There is no one running against him!

no one but two empty pairs of flipflops

except that pesky economy. You want to talk about Darwin Evolution or Obama Evolution? I bet you libbies couldnt tell the difference.

Obama 2012 "I inherited this mess from Obama 08'"

Oh, Caesar. Not even you lack the necessary intellectual horsepower to grasp the fact that Romney is going to lose November's election. Choosing Ryan as his running mate is just the cherry on top of Willard's feces sundae. Your non-issues apparently aren't resonating with normal Americans and your failed political ideology is not pushing their buttons, either. You can always look forward to 2016: it's obvious the GOP is doing just that.

Fail.

Caesar Augustus-

except that pesky economy. You want to talk about Darwin Evolution or Obama Evolution? I bet you libbies couldnt tell the difference.

Um? One is theory and the other is ummmm? Therapy?

Ceasar - Let's talk about that pesky economy. Let's start with: what are Romney's plans for fixing the economy.... Cut taxes for the rich and increase taxes for the middle class by deleting deductions and exemptions that only the middle class enjoy. Just about every economist (you know, the educated guys) state that Romney's plan will plunge the United States into bankruptcy and will INCREASE the national debt significantly. Romney states he will create 12.5 million jobs during his first four years. 250,000 jobs a month. But he refuses to state HOW this will happen. Once again, every economist (those smart guys again) have said that 12.5 million jobs in four years is impossible. The fact is, Romney is lying about that. Just like Newt said if he was elected we would have $2.50 a gallon gas, only he would not provide any details on HOW he would do that.

And what is the main cause of the economic collapse? Look to the previous administration, which turned a budget surplus which would have paid off the national debt in seven years, into more than doubling the national debt with ill advised tax cuts, mostly for the wealthy. Wait, that sounds familiar, doesn't it? Tax cuts for the rich, economy tanks..... Think about it, Ceasar. Try and get that little brain of yours functioning as it was intended, clear out the cobwebs and Fox News, and actually think for yourself. Romney means death to the American middle class. Romney means that YOU, Ceasar, will pay more in taxes. Think.

there was no surplus, never was. cooking books perhaps. Look to andrew Jackson if you want to see surplus or at least zero debt. go peddle bs elsewhere. taxes are going up aka ACA. tax cuts for the rich? sounds like an obama ad. Not going to happen. Nope Romney will be forced to approach the tax codes. he'll be one and done like Obama if he doesnt. needs to be done. you know change.

blackcat, obama evolution is therapy? now i've heard it all

Craigf1998

And what is the main cause of the economic collapse? Look to the previous administration,

Oh dear, you've gone and blamed the people responsible. Head meat meet platter. :-)

Caesar Augustus-

C'mon Casaer, I tossed you a fat juicy one and you didn't even try to bunt? The real Augustus would have caught that with one hand and beaned me with a high hard one.

Just proves how Out O Touch Mitt Witt is.I was hoping he would

goof up Again...and he did....Ryan is a Cannibal of the people.

obama evolution is therapy? now i've heard it all

Oh, I don't know, Caeser. "Violent innuendo" has it beat by a mile.

Obama – Biden 2012 - Still Cleaning up Bush’s Mess!!!

only in your world Sailicat

Good for the real Augustus but he's dead member. its been over 2000 years at this point.

Economic collapse was bushes fault LOL..he contributed and Obama watched with smores. what a joke.

Boehner lied. The house passed an emergency measure not the sweeping farm bill that was needed.

Boehner accused Obama of lying when he lied.

Ceasar - There never was a budget surplus? Really? Are you that ignorant? Facts that you cannot accept never existed? The fact is, President Clinton ran a budget surplus for the last six years of his administration. That budget surplus passed over to the first year of Bush's administration and would have continued had he not implimented his ill advised tax cuts and started two wars.



only in your world Sailicat

No, Caesar. I'm fairly certain that anyone who speaks English as his or her native language would find "violent innuendo" to be an embarrassingly incoherent phrase.

Mitt Romney went to Florida by HIMSELF, DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM RYAN.

How is a voucher dumba$$ program good for the elderly, when you are giving ENORMOUS tax brakes to the rich.

Now his own campaign is saying that Romeny calls the shoots, and not Ryan.

REALLY? We can talk about Romney, but his taxes are not allowed, We can talk about Romney, but not about his record on Bain Capital.

Ceasar - at least you admit the economic collapse was Bush's fault. That is the first step to healing.

As for Obama watching it collapse, you have that part incorrect. It is the Republicans who refuse to even debate any of Obama's job and economic recovery bills. The House will not even let them on the floor. Obama's jobs council put fourth 14 recommendations for stimulating the economy and creating jobs. Obama presented those recommendations in a bill to the House. The REPUBLICANS will not even let is on the floor for debate. Even though these are suggestions from the heads of large American corporations, presented by CEOs and such, they will not even debate the bill. Obama presented legislation to give tax cuts to business that insourced jobs, and the Republicans will not even debate it. They will not allow ANYTHING that would make Obama look good, because they are willing to sacrifice the economy just to regain the White House.

Farm subsidies folks?

http://nypress.com/the-making-of-manhattans-elite-welfare-farmers/

Betcha try and take these welfare handouts from the rich and they'd unleash the lobbyists on Congress.

Sailcat

Did you catch Colbert last night? Apparently they heard you on that Rafalka deal. Man that was some FUNNY!

No, that's Mitt Romney who has offered ZERO solution and spends all his time attacking President Obama but then has the nerve to whine like a spoiled child when the Obama Team attacks back.

good ol' "Glass-jawed" Mitt. No very brave without his posse to hold you down while he assaults you.

John-4274116 -- Uh, no, that would be rightwingers like you who come in here and *swoop and poop* your one-liners with no substance or credible source or jack@!$%#z.

I look forward to the gaffs from Good OLD Joe, the Dem Elitist.

Alex -

What a joke. Straight from the mouth of a supporter of "The King of Gaffer's. You better get your Etch-a-Sketch out, your gonna need it......

Obama/Biden 2012

alexandr1 - You are going to be sooooo disappointed. Biden is ten times the man Ryan is and will show him up as the no nothing he is!

Obama/Biden 2012

typical liberal response. "I know you are but what am I".

Romney claims that President Obama's campaign has been about smears and deceit - BALONEY.

I challenge you to name one example of a pro-Obama ad taking Romney's words out of context, or distorting his position, or lying about what he would do.

Republicans have questioned President Obama's citizenship, religion and patriotism. President Obama has questioned Romney's business practices, tax shelters, and economic proposals. How are the two comparable?

President Obama has presented the facts about Bain's business practices, the only question is whether Romey was involved or not - a fairly minor distinction since he still owned the company and should be held responsible for what they did either way.

The Obama campaign has presented the facts about Romney's tax plan, the truth about his Cayman Island and Swiss accounts, and the truth about Romney's continued reluctance to release any more tax returns.

I fail to see any "smears, deceit and distortion" - just inconvenient facts.

“If the Republicans will stop telling
lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them.”

-Adlai Stevenson

Romney does have accounts in the Caymans, Bermuda, and Switzerland. In fact, he has over 30 million dollars of his money (technically Anne's trust fund now) in Bermuda. Bain Capital did wreck several companies, destroying their pension funds and healthcare benefits in the process. Romney won't disclose his tax returns because there is something wrong - very wrong in them. (We know he has 23 ready for display should he choose.)

These are facts. In the words of Betty Davis, "But you are Blanche, you are!" Romney cries foul like a little -itch. Stand up and grow a pair you big wimp. And quit lying about the welfare to work thing in your latest commercial, because the NY Times and the Washington Post said you lied. You're a liar and a little -itch.

Jody---the Romney/Ryan ticket ain't seen anything yet. The Obama re-election campaign is just getting warmed up. Welcome to the big leagues, gentlemen.

It’s amazing that Willard Romney the talking lying buffoon, is the Republican choice for President and Eddie Munster for VP choice. You people really sit your bar low.

Oh BTW....Mittins Where Are Those Tax's returns???

Hiding so much ya need Ryan as a diversion? Doesn't look like he can take the heat any better than Mitt Witt can.

alexandr1 - I will be toasting the VP debate but not Ryan. Biden is ten times the man and Vice President Ryan could ever be. I'll be toasting our Vice President for making "toast" of Ryan!

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Obama has no solutions other then attack the other guy. That is one of the reasons we need change!!!

The party of NO: THE GOP, has not PASS ANYTHING that President Obama has presented. Paul Ryan's mission is to block everything that he has done.

Where are the "job creators" with the magic figures? We the People saved their butts, just to take the jobs overseas.

American families are already stretched, and the GOP wants to bang even more, just to give the 1% MORE MONEY. HIS PLAN IS AN INSULT TO AMERICANS.

Ryan better put on his "big boy" pants because he is now entering the big ring. I wonder if Ryan will take a crash course in foreign policy so that he might have an inch of a chance against the very formidable Vice President Joe Biden.

Oh, by the way, Show us your returns, Mitt! Don't think that announcing your boy detracts from what Americans are not willing to let go of!

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4 more4 44!

John,

If all Obama does is attack Romney, at least he's beating him over the head with truth, well, at least moreso than the lies and twisted facts that Romney uses against Obama. They all lie, just some moreso than others.

It's been said that all is fair in love, war, and political elections.

McCain saw all 23 years of Willard's returns and went with Palin instead. When asked to declaim Harry Reid for saying Willard hasn't paid taxes for ten years prior to the one fed return he's offered, McCain refused to call Reid a liar.

Who wants a First Lady with Anne's attitude: "We've given you people all you need to know about our finances and way of life!"?????

Choosing Ryan is Willard's answer to a very bad summer for him, but we're not distracted. WHERE are the tax returns??

And those of you who can't wait for the VP debate, expecting Ryan to 'sweep' Biden--Ryan's got a measly 4-year college degree, Biden's an attorney with a half century's experience in public office.

Ryan took full advantage of SS when his dad died, but wants to pull the rug out from your kids. Run, don't walk--from this abysmal GOP ticket!

This debate is easily settled!!

Put Obama/Biden on 40 acres and give Romney/Ryan a nearby 40. Provide them with seed and farm implements and come back in 4yrs . . . .

I wiould put my money on Romney/Ryan to have the successful farm and Harvest. It would take Biden at least 2 yrs to figure out how to use the tools and Obama will only want to argue and divide. This is completely obvious and extends to all other aspects of running a business, government etc.!

Romney was born into a super wealthy family. Do you really think he can wipe his ass without a man servant to do it?

Larry . . anyone who can calmly truss the family dog's kennel on top of the car and drive 4-5 teenage boys on a family vacation can certainly wipe his a** as you question!

because Obama saw what happened to John Kerry, a combat veteran that got smeared but believed he could take the high ground and people would respect him for it. Sorry, but those are the old rules of politics, this is a whole new ballgame, as the Citizens United decision shows. Much like warfare itself, the brutality and speed increases with each successive conflict. The redcoats were still fighting in the old style, lining up and exchanging volleys. We didn't play by those rules. During the Civil War, position were charged using calvary. Then comes trench warfare, blitzkreig, human wave, and mutually assured destruction as tactics. This is only going to get worse.

Ryan should be hated by both parties - he voted for all of the legislation each party claims is now responsible for the deficit!

He voted for the Bush Tax Cuts and supported the two Bush wars.

He also voted for TARP, the Auto bailout and both the stimulus plans.

NOW he is held up as a fiscal genuius???

TNSEVOL - Ryan IS hated by both parties or quite a few people from both parties. His "budget" is recognized for what it is and very few people - but the far right - like it!

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The only "hate" is what emanates from virtually every single post of yours.

Ryan has a budget proposal .... Obama does not ! Ryan's budget proposal has pretty broad support ..... Obama's proposal has NO SUPPORT AT ALL, even from within the Democratic party !

Running a large economy like the United States which is $16 trillion in debt without a budget is like a ship captain putting out to sea with no rudder on his ship.

Jody--great post on Ryan's hypocrisy. Add to that his participation in legislation against the interests of women and it is amazing to me that the Republicans think he enhances their ticket. And wait til people understand what he wants to do to Medicare.

The arranged marriage of Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney is an arranged done by the Koch brothers and Norquist.

Too bad that Romney is so arrogant, he does not like this arrangement, but he said "yes"to please his masters. He is already divorcing himslef in 48 hours, saying that he has the "Romney Plan", not the "Ryan Plan"

Sure! Let's ask Norquist if this is true!

Silver tongue talks double-speak. The Republicans keep crying about cutting spending and reducing the deficit but each and every Republican administration, at least in recent history, has increased the percentage of GNP that the govt. grabs.

Yay! Jody! Tell it like it is, Iowa!

Romney and Ryan did get a bounce after the Ryan selection.
The newest research from Nate has it as the NOV 6 factors:

“Obama chance of winning 71.6% Romney 28.4%”

“Projected Winner Obama 301.2”

“Projected Loser Romney 236.8”

However, if the election was being voted in “Now Cast” Today:

Totals

“Obama chance of winning 80.0% Romney 20.0%”

“Projected Winner Obama 302.9”

“Projected Loser Romney 235.1”

As far as, my projected Electoral Vote outcome totals are:

Electoral Vote:

“Projected Winner Obama 297”

“Projected Loser Romney 241”

Paul Ryan and Scott Brown did not want to give 98% of American an extension on the taxes, unless the 1% got AN EVEN GREATER BREAK. ALSO, THEY CONTINUE GIVING MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SUBSIDIES TO BIG OIL.

Romney and Ryan want a heartless society that does not care about the old and the disabled. If you'are not rich, it is YOUR FAULT.

If you are a millionaire, you belong in their club. If you are not, they will throw you like TRASH.

Also, explain the hypocrisy of yet another "small government" Republican spending his whole career IN government, and making a small fortune doing it.

Correction: "small?" Paul Ryan is a multi millionaire. Not bad, for a government worker.

like Pelosi or Reid Amy. I agree, small gov. Both sides need to get that memo. I know youre not into small government and your whole point was to point out a republican hypocrite. You realize they're all hypocrites right? Oh well, hot coals

Too much Government means too many regulations, laws, and appointments such as Czars. It also pertains to meddling in health care and other industries. I've been in Government health care for 20 years. Smart people, but no application or sense of urgency. Proof that FDR was correct on his warning of public sector unions.

As far a Ryan being involved in politics, he doesn't make it bigger. We have two senators per state, the house is based on population, and we have always had a VP. If he wasn't there, some other lackey would be.

Caesar

the point was Ryan talking about it and the discussion was about HIS hypocrisy's doing so.. Nothing more my friend!

Otherwise You are right, they all make a lot of money as civil servants some how, must be private "Donations"...

bh, but if Ryan believes in smaller government he is doing it in the wrong way. Being a part of what he calls the problem makes him a hypocrite, he should be an activist from the outside if he wanted to be honest with himself and the public.

So we judge someone because they are successful. Excellent. So people who work at taco bell are god like based on your scoring system..

So remind me ifyou ever become a millionaire to call you names and chastize you just because you have that much money..

Remember John Kerry. wasnt he the richest Presidential hopeful behind Ross Perot? did you vote for him?

News98

I think excessive either way is wrong but of course I am not a liberal, I'm an Independent, I have never voted straight ticket in my life and may never. The thing is, this congress, this House is the scariest bunch I have ever seen in Washington. It is all about Party and fear of the Tea Party. nothing about America except their idea of America and their idea of what America needs and wants. Those Arseholes have no idea what is going on out here and this bunch has turned me and many away from hard core conservative beliefs. I would consider a middle of the road moderate but not a party ideologue, ever...

MadM

No one is judging anyone by the hard work that made them a success.

Just the one like Mittins & Ryan who game the system in there favor..Ya know like,

taking bussiness into Bankrupcy...and making Millions on the Backs of the working class. The owners of some of these Company's never made a dime.

But little golden spoon fed Romney was given everything he wanted. Ryan

also comes with a Golden spoon in his mouth...but still wants more for the 1%

and make the others pay for it. Rep/Baggers are either Evil Or stupid..You choose.

SO Prays. What does that say about the Kennedy's? Or what do you think about the democrats taking more contributions from Bain than republicans? Profits good or bad? The left must be so confused or hypocrites.

http://vote.sigfig.com/org/Bain%20Capital/-

http://articles.boston.com/2012-05-23/nation/31814221_1_obama-campaign-mitt-romney-romney-claims

If Mr. Ryan thinks there is too much government why the hell is he in it?

A perfect valid question. He could do us a favor and get the H**ll out of Dutch and go back to practice law or whatever he wants. He has been a POLITICIAN ALL HIS SORRY ADULT LIFE.

Yay, Robert! The fact is, Ryan took full advantage of SS, which he now wants to eliminate and privatize. He was elected his high school's Brown Noser Extraordinaire, and is so beholden to Big Oil--see DirtyEnergyMoney.com, he will dance to whatever tune the Koch Brothers make him play.

And he's always lived off the government he now so ardently hopes to shrink so we the people can't regulate against corporate pollution of our environment, our seeds, or our food supplies. His only job has been in fed government!!

He's part & parcel of the new wave in politics--not here for you, only for me.

Get rid of them and let's give our president the democratic Congress he needs so the obstructionism can stop & the real work can begin.

All economists agree government must spend in tough times. The New Deal worked. The stimulus didn't work because it was too small. Simply look to Europe to see how bad austerity has proven to be!

All these people insisting on austerity do not understand economic theory or economies of scale. Running a government is not like a home budget!

The only thing the GOP is good at? Making people fearful & pitting us against each other. Make no mistake. Without a strong government to protect your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness--the first bully corporation comes along and whump--you & your rights are flat on your ass.

How many gains attained by unions have we lost? Corporations no longer honor the 8-hour day, the 40-hour week, or provide retirement, healthcare, or even adequate vacations. Now they're adopting rules such as, "no peeing on company time," and "no talking during work hours." Ridiculous.

The GOP is trying to force us to forget we the people are both free and BRAVE.

Ryan has never held a job outside government yet has a net worth between 2.1 and 7.8 million. He's done well on a government salary.

WilliamofRites: Exactly! We have enough money; only our priorities are totally screwed.

Every empire that's ever attempted to police the world has lasted only 200 years. We're at 238.

News98 - I believe we all know who the JACKASS is - take a walk and look in a mirror!

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AND the Republican party has blocked any meaningful response to climate-change, which has insured drought conditions across the midwest. Drought, tornadoes and increasingly severe hurricanes - but got forbid we should rein in the consumption of fossil fuels. Why, wind farms are for sissies!

During the dust bowls of the 20's and 30's remind me if was because a GOP run house blocked it or not. Im not sure..

My uncle is a farmer and he could tell you lots of stories of farmers in his area taking subsidies they should not be taking. This should not be a sacred cow.

And that is exactly why most farmers are Republican! It is because Republicans hate farmers. Yea yea that's it.

Republicans support corporate farmers. get bigger.

The farm bill has long been a scam and a huge waste of money. No oversight and maybe the easiest path to fraud our government allows. There are endless stories of fraud, so much so that only people on the take can't see it. People that own "farm" land but never farm getting subsidies. Farmers paid not to farm, but they turn around and rent their land to someone that does. Washington is flat out incapable of oversight, or finding and ending waste. There is just too much money floating around and no one cares where it goes because it is not theirs.

Perhaps the Speaker of the House should negotiate with the Senate Majority Leader and reach a compromise everyone can agree on.

They don't seem to be able to play nice.

Isnt that what government was supposed to be. Good for all not just good for a majority..

MadMexican: Interesting name....actually, the essence of democracy is compromise. Most of us want the same things. But only 24% of us vote in primaries, where who will run is decided. That 24% is at one end or the other--so the recalcitrance and gridlock in Congress is exactly representative of both extremes.

The corporate 1% own TV and everything we see on TV. They studied the success of TV evangelists and know very well how to keep us pitted against each other. The result? Only the corporations win. So, are you happy?

Does Romney/Ryan represent us, or the corporations??? That's the real issue.

Ask Norquist.

Senate tries to pass bill if it don't get filibustered which happens 99%, it dies in house. Democrats didn't block that many bills during Bush rein, shame full for republicans on that

Im sorry I dont care if my president is Pro Gay, Pro Abortion, Pro Pot, or any other BS stance. I want my president to be a good leader, a responsible leader, someone you can trust. All of those other stances are personal and have no bearing on what this country needs to focus on,. We need Jobs and healthcare, None of those stances make a difference why do we put so much emphasis on it.

TheMadMexican-

It's because they don't have any real progress (except bankrupting the country any faster) to run on. They have to try to run on irrelevancies.

Bushs medicare drug plan adds 300 billion a year and has added 1.2 trillion to our deficit since Obama became president. Bushs tax cuts cost 400 billion a year and have added 1.6 trillion to our deficit since Obama became president. Bush created programs that go on forever all unfunded not even counting our 2 unfunded wars he started.

Larry, you do nothing but spew lies. Maybe you can explain the fact that when Obama and the Democrats extended the Bush era tax breaks it was projected to cost 363 billion over the two year extension. So how do you come up with 400 billion per year?

Here are the facts:

The fact is that when Obama and Congress negotiated a two-year extension of the Bush tax cuts for all taxpayers, the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation estimated it would cost $363.5 billion through Dec. 31, 2012.

Here is the whole story: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-02-15/fact-check-obama-bush-tax-cuts/53104774/1

Lets look at how Larry likes to lie about the prescription drug benefit cost, which he claims is 300 billion per year.

Here is the truth:

Four years into full operation, President George W. Bush’s Medicare prescription drug program is coming in well below its projected cost, giving hope to backers of the new health insurance law that it, too, could beat budget expectations.

The numbers are stark and conclusive: In 2009, the government spent $60.8 billion on the drug benefit, or far less than the annual $111.2 billion cost projected just five years ago, after the program was enacted.

The lower cost - a result of slowing demand for prescription drugs, higher use of generic drugs and fewer people signing up - has surprised even some of the law’s most pessimistic critics.

Here is the whole truth Larry ignores: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/16/bush-drug-plan-beats-cost-mark/?page=all

Logic of Life: He's been utterly hamstrung by the 'just say no' Republicans deep in the pockets of Dirty Energy money--what do you expect? A president's powers are limited--we did that because we were opposed to kingship!

The GOP wants him done & gone, not because he's left of center--he's actually a little right of center and many of his ideas started in the Republican Party--but because of the color of his skin.

Yet he's smarter, better educated, more graceful and gracious than anything else out there, and the whole world laughs at us because they love him and don't get why the USA seems not to.

Racism is so deep here, it's truly appalling. Nobody called Bush the names you see here all the time against Obama--it diminishes the office he holds and us as a nation.

Romneys worse.

Yes. Thank you Obama for running the U.S. economy into the ground.

Cry harder, maybe we'll care. Obama 2012!

All these posts on here blaming Obama for our economy, but no mention of the months, no YEARS of Mitch McConnell and Boehner making no secret that the top Republican priority was to block EVERYTHING. You know, if you don't like the plan the President has, then fine, let's hear the specifics and argue the merits. But NOooo, let's just block EVERYTHING so NOTHING gets done, and leave the Big Guy holding the bag. How productive. And honestly, I could've screamed at Obama for how much he was basically begging the Republicans in congress to work with him on incorporating some of their ideas, and when they ignored him, his team put in some of THEIR FREAKIN' SIGNATURE LEGISLATION ANYWAY!!! And what does he get in response?: "oh, he's a Marxist dictator!" How is anybody who's paying attention falling for this crap?

Tommy: Me. too!

Thank you, sullyness! Well done!

When 95% of republicans are bound by the Norquist pledge they can't vote for what's best for the country but whats acceptable to the lobbyist. I can't see how anyone elected by the people can publicly admit to being beholden to a lobbyist and no one in the republican party seems to find that wrong.

LOL....just watched the clip of Ryan getting heckled by 2 woman at his Iowa stop....he did not know how to handle it

I think he tried to marry both of them!!!

Funny, Obama did not "look that cool" when being questioned by a reporter who interrupted his speech.

Besides, since when is "being cool" part of the job description for President. I would much rather have someone with experience in government, experience in industry, and someone willing to follow through with a lawful budget as required.

Obama has no budget, no plans and NO CLUE ! Obama's whole strategy is to destroy his opposition because he cannot run on his failed record.

jim: I want a cool, calm, professional president when he has to handle world-wide issues, or handling something like killing of UBL, or the rescue of Americans from pirates...don't you?

President Obama has taken us from loosing 700,000 jobs a month to 40+ months of job growth...that is very good business...don't you think?

Why do liberals feel the need to heckle instead of listen? Why do they shout down opposition?

I don't think liberals "shout down opposition". We do - and should - shout down out right lies.

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NeartheSea: Meet News98. Notice the madness? Psst: he's not a liberal.

That's not heckling, that's attempted assault. I watched. Secret Service required.

For republicans a rude reporter heckling Obama is business as usual or a congressman calling him a liar when he addresses congress. But a republican gets heckled and its an outrage. I guess you're right it is unusual for democrats to act like republicans. Most of us are polite to presidents or candidates out of respect for the office even when we disagree.

Just for the record, these black farmers got SCREWED by the government and their claims go back for YEARS. I can see by your comment you really know very little about the facts. Some right wing dope sold you on this junk and you bought it.

Awww poor whitey, are you being oppressed?

100 billion to military cronies..........

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/business/18missile.html

The G.A.O. said that the Pentagon’s Missile Defense Agency has spent almost $56 billion since it began developing and fielding defense systems in 2002, and it is likely to spend $50 billion more over the next five years.

Those black farmers are in the wrong business. Oughta be making bombs and missiles. That's where our money goes.

Susie: Racists always come back to 'reverse discrimination." Same with the phrase "the race card."

Here's the thing: black people were slaves here for a long time. From the way our president has been treated, it's crystal America is still a deeply racist nation. Addressing that disparity to try and level the playing field is a good thing. It's fixing a long-lasting wrong.

"Reverse discrimination" could occur only if white people had been discriminated against in a similar manner, and no attempt was made to fix it. Since whites have never been discriminated against to begin with, logically there's no such thing as 'reverse discrimination."

Black people have to deal with crap all the time because of the color of their skin. Hell, Obama's half white, but you'd never know it. Racism makes people do this insane dance of, "Is this it? Or does s--- just happen?" It's a terrible, debilitating dance to have to repeat time and time again. So when they're made to do this horrible dance, it's not "playing the race card." It's misery.

Only white folk are capable of 'playing the race card." And they do it ALL THE F---IN' TIME.

Btw, I'm white.

What else can Obama do? He has nothing but failure to run on.

You know, speaking of failure, if I were you, I'd be worried about those 23 economic advisors Mitt has hired from the former GW Bush White House. You know, because that went so <er, ahem> well.

CincyFin: It's how Romney got this far, what else has he got???

So you think the U.S. needs to increase money flowing into the food stamp program ? Where does it stop ? Who pays for all this ? Are there not enough welfare recipients now that you want more ?

Perhaps, if our country was to stimulate small to medium-sized businesses again, more could get a job and work ... as opposed to being dependent on the government.

well 33 million is not needed to be removed, don't add, don't remove. I think that's fair but then who ever said the GOP was fair.

Great example of a welfare mentality that is growing. Here in Washington state, my daughter who lives in an upscale urban condo can get food stamps and use them at STARBUCKS! That is the level of food stamp usage that needs cutting. What a joke.

carol (numbers, lotsa numbers): Say you didn't teach your daughter right from wrong? And you want to blame the government?????

Let me see if I have this correctly. You want smaller government--but you think it's government's fault your daughter's cheating--the government??

Puhleeze

My daughter REFUSES the food stamps despite being encouraged by her university to get them!

They want to force women to have children they can't afford but then refuse to feed them. I guess as long as they're born it doesn't matter if they starve.

Unfortunately you can't just cut 33 million from food stamps and it only affect undeserving people. I do know Romneys plan would do massive cuts from all social programs such as school nutrition, food stamps and medicaid all by block grants with no concern with seeing the truly needy get help just giving less and letting others worry about it. A responsible person would try to cut waste or fraud not cuts to the truly poor and children.

They say we can't afford 70 billion for food stamps but we can afford 260 billion more for the military. We can't afford medicare but can afford cutting the top tax rate from 35% to 25% costing 500 billion a year in revenue.

And we have no hesitation about throwing several hundred billion into a needless war of choice but balk 70-billion a year to help Americans. We can pump up defense spending by several hundred billion a year but can't help our own people in need of food. I suppose its all priorities ~ and we damned sure know where the Ryan-Romney priorities lie.

lies

My God, are you brainwashed.

Your candidates motto is Forward; to what...more Trillions in deficit spending, higher unemployment, more government run health care, higher taxes...is that want you want to move forward to...well, that's exactly what your going to get with Obama...Forward to the same old BS he's been selling for the past 4 years. Wake up man and realize a Country can't be run by a president who blames everyone else for his piss poor decisions.

Alll of this debt is looting the federal tax payers. With a national debt of more than 15 trillion dollars and huge deficits predicted for at least the next decade, I estimate that the money the federal government is borrowing now will end up costing the tax payers 9 times the amount borrowed to repay over the next 170 years. Without conditions to include any action of congress, the President promised that the 2012 federal deficit would not exceed 229.27 billion dollars. The President needs to explain how his promise is going to be kept because the 2012 fiscal year is almost over.

The President needs to be reminded of some words of wisdom that were spoken back in March of 2006. The words were as true then as they are today.

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

GForce - I plan to. He's more dangerous than any single person in this Country.