Cheezer Agutless,

Let's talk about the economy. When did it fail? After 8 years of whom running the country?

Rising gas prices? Who's in bed with the big oil corporations? Sounds like we should raise their taxes to help pay down this debt!

This weeks price increase is because of the drought in the midwest?

Next week it will be because of a flood! Always there's an excuse....................

As the negative ads pile up (on both sides, thanks to Citizens United and the Supreme Court), polls show R-money slipping nationally.

What's a republicon presidential candidate to do?

Cry a river, of course. Next up...John Boehner...to really open the flood gates.

Wow!!! This election cycle has turned into a third grade verbal argument where one kid accuses the other of the EXACT thing that he/she is doing. This would be pure COMEDY if it weren't for the serious nature of the BS attacks.

Romney says that the Obama campaign is using lies and deception whilst his campaign is running ads that accuse Obama of ditching the work requirement for welfare. For those of you who don't come out from under the Rush Limbaugh/Faux news rock these claims are TOTALLY baseless and are outright LIES. Do the research if you don't believe me.

The unemployment rate for private sector jobs has been improving since Obama took office... the jobs that are being lost are the public sector jobs which the Repugnicons, teapublitards and conservatives in general have been fighting for by pushing for reductions in gov spending and reducing gov size. Public sector job loss is a MAJOR reason the unemployment rate is so high.

Obama/Biden are not perfect but Romney/Ryan would be an unmitigated disaster for the middle class, Welfare (see voucher program in ryan plan) and education spending. The ONLY ones to benefit from this ticket will be corporations and the top 2%.

NitMitt didn't have a problem slinging dirt at those light weights, Newtie and Santorum, during the Primaries, but now that he's in the big leagues, he cry's foul because its getting it thrown back in his face. !!!What a whining little pussy. Do you Repubes really want to elect a punk like that?

Obama/Biden 2012

," Romney said. "It’s smear. It’s dirt. It’s distortion. It’s deception. it’s dishonesty.

Willard should just release the tax returns for 10 years, and all will be cleared up!

Willard, just talk about Bain, your Governorship, Utah Olympics,....tell us all about it!.....

Put up or shut up, Willard!

Who just gutted billions out of medicare

Well, tell us who? Obama sure didn't gut billions out of medicare. Inquiring minds want to know - who gutted Medicare? The only medicate gutting going on right now is the Romney/Ryan plan which will "gut" millions of seniors from the program, if the budget is adopted. Good old Romney/Ryan, forcing grandma and grandpa to live their retirement years on the streets.

If we really want to fix the economy, we should get the hell out of Afghanistan and stop spending ONE TRILLION DOLLARS a year on defense! Bring it back to pre 9/11 levels of around $350 billion, and that would go a long way to balancing our budget.

TO: trouble46545 who wrote:

"I think it's time for liberals to stop whining and name calling and realize what a failure they have in the whitehouse..."

We are definately NOT whinning! With Romney's pick of the most radical right wing nut job in the Republican Party! Romney just handed President Obama another 4 years on a silver platter!

Ha! Republcians want to give multi-millionaires another tax cut, and then raise OUR taxes by $6,000 a year! You gotta be nuts!

Obama/Biden 2012

sounds like a verbatim obama ad. nice thoughts there RedDevPOS

So asking for facts is an Obama ad? hm....

Mitt Romney has some nerve to be talking about the Olympics. As if it was not EMBARRASSING ENOUGH of him to go there and open his big ol'mouth just to have flies enter into it.

Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney want you to believe that they will "protect" Medicare. They are talking about "protecting" business that they will create from it. They will make sure that all seniors pay "their fair share" while he and his friends keep on cheating the system. The proof is that he STILL WON'T SHOW HIS TAXES.

Really don't know why so many of my fellow "conservatives" love Romney so much anyway. You all DO realize that he invented Obama care and passed it in his state, including the individual mandate right? You people ALSO realize that he signed a law to ban assault weapons in his state, yes? For God's sake, do some research before you put your support behind this wolf in sheep's clothing!

I'd rather see Obama serve another 4 years than this corporate shill get elected and move to give more and more power to corporations who will then give we the people less and less power.

If we really want to fix the economy, we should get the hell out of Afghanistan

Mitt ROmney and Paul Ryan can't wait to go into war with Iran. They want to "fix"Medicaid and Social Security. They want "austerity" EXCEPT FOR BIG OIL AND THE MILITARY. THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY DESIRE.

So what about the economy?

What would be so drastically different with the rich white guy in there?

Tell us, we'll wait...

Do you forget the cliff we were hanging from when your last guy finished up? And somehow we can suddenly magically cut 1.5 trillion dollars out of our pyramid scheme economy AND give millionaires some MORE tax breaks???

AND now Rmoney thinks nothing of a war with Iran???

Brilliant! Who's buying?

Looks more and more like conservatives are just basically crabby people who can't help but look for someone else to blame, and bear no sense of responsibility for the things they themselves had a hand in messing up.

You people just don't add up...which is probably why y'all depend so highly on the low info voting bloc, or keeping Americans from voting.

Rush is on, better run...

Caesar Augustus-

It's funny and sadly ironic how the left decries violence yet incite it the most.

Repubs in the room? Throw balloons at them. Viciously.

semper fi, asking for facts? nah thats not an ad, just parroting gutting medicare is an ad. I hate those stupid things since both sides use them and they provide nothing but talking points. The economy sucks, that's a fact. lets discuss what needs to be done to help our ailing economy/country

Fair enough. And I definitely look forward to the debates when those topics get brought up. Personally, I'd prefer to see military spending brought back to pre 9/11 levels. Our military was doing just fine on $350 billion a year, one trillion a year is ridiculous.

Really though, we need to get corporate money OUT of our political system. Problem is that it's so deeply dug in I'm at a loss for where to begin...

*edit* and of course, I would expect a responsible stepping down of military spending over a period of years, not just BAM back to previous levels :-)

Republican political philosophy and strategy:

The truth is a lie and lies are the truth.

Welcome to the new Orwellian dystopia brought to you courtesy of the the teapublicans...

Yeah, campaign finance reform would go a long way to fixing the system I think. Make it a set "season" (to use your word for it) and I would love it if there was a spending cap. That way no matter how rich the candidate, he/she can't spend more on adds than a less well off opponent. Make it about their qualifications and not how much money they can raise.

Yeah, it'd be against the interest of the people that have to vote on it.

There's enough mud slinging on both sides to wallow in, agreed? Now here is one real difference. Do you vote for the party that believes people are the ones who should vote and their vote should count? Or the party that believes that corporations are people too and should be able to vote whether they are American corporations or not, and their vote counts more than yours because they have so much more money than you?

Excuse me but one more: how many Democrats took a pledge with a lobbyist before they took a pledge to uphold the constitution? How many Republicans? These examples are not mud, they are facts.

If you add up the numbers on politifact, Romney only tells the truth 29% of the time.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/

ok Eric and according to politifact what is Obama? guessing 80 percentile im sure.

Since the initial thread was deleted (and all the responses with it), I'll ask again:

What total moron still thinks only one political party runs negative campaign adds and smears the other?

Better yet, what total moron thinks Romney and Obama haven't done that already?

Festerhawg - clearly you need professional help.

Mitt Romney admits to accounts in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland. Where HAVE you been that you don't know this.

EVERY Presidential candidate in our lifetime has released a minimum of 5 years of tax returns. Mitt's father released 12 years. It should be troubling to ANYONE that Mitt refuses to release even 1 full year.

Obama/Biden 2012

Mitt Romney is a damnable hypocrite who's wallowing in his own filth as he accuses Obama of a "dirty" campaign. His vicious ad lying about Obama handing out welfare checks to people who won't work is more than class warfare. It borders on race warfare, because it's intended to appeal to angry white men who think they'd be rich if it wasn't for their tax money going to those no-account lazy welfare (black) deadbeats.

Both campaigns distort the truth and twist facts. One weasel complaining about another.

Festerhawg ~

"wants to talk" that makes me lol.

seeking sanity---obama presents facts in evidence regarding romney. romney interprets these facts as dirt and smear tactics. interesting response--how about just clearing it up with the facts called truth. but then the republicans ''can't handle the truth''. these REP. candidates are so far from knowing what the american people are dealing with in their everyday lives. more important they don't give a damn!

What do you expect from a couple of Tea Party Cry Baby's...... They can BASH & Lie all they want but do not let anyone disagree with them..... What a sorry state the Republican Party is in.....

Let's see Mitt - you LIE about welfare reform, you LIE about voting rights in Ohio, you LIE about the phrase "you didn't build that" and now you're accusing the President of "deception"? Mitt -- you're just another reason why many people think Republican and hypocrite are interchangeable terms.

Seeking Sanity,

If John McCain still put country first above party, he would surreptitiously release the 23 years of Willard's tax records he has from 2008. The maverick could help Mitt by "proving" that he is not guilty of tax evasion. And if he was found out, who would want to put a war hero in jail for providing transparency and helping the country avoid making a terrible mistake?

Vote no to Bain/Pain 2012.

When you call someone out for what they actually did ... and they consider it dirt .......... that tells you something!

Festerhawg,

I hate to burst your bubble, but your insurance provider now has an extra $120 a month from every employee at your company, and no doubt raised the deductible. Insurance companies are the fattest pigs at the public trough. So put the blame where it belongs. It's called corporate greed.

Why do liberals care so much about what Romney does with HIS money? You should be more concerned with what Barry is doing with YOUR money! Obama is going to take it on the chin come November. I wish Romney would take the gloves off and really start attacking Obumbles on his foggy past.

The high whining sound you hear is Mitt Romney sniveling because President Obama is using facts against him. Facts, of all things! Good heavens!

After a GOP primary race in which the mentally challenged GOP contenders used scandals, innuendos, and breathless accusations against each other, did anyone think President Obama was going to wait for Etch-A-Sketch's campaign to come out swinging before he raised genuine issues and asked legitimate questions about Romney Hood?

Oh well, the whining emanating from Romney is nothing like the wheezing and crying we will hear from the right wing lunatic fringe the morning after President Obama is reelected. Better bring a lot of tissues with you, teabaggers, because you'll be needing them!

Jon

But under Obamacare, it had to be approved by the government for the increase to be legal

Gas station cookies $2.99

Olympic "therapy" Dancing horse $400,000

Romney playing the victim, priceless!

I see Romney has substituted his attack ads with whining ads.

But under Obamacare, it had to be approved by the government for the increase to be legal

Fester,

Is it 2014 already? My, my, time does fly.

Vote no to Bain/Pain 2012.

Caesar Augustus-, you just said "the left decries violence yet incite it the most." ...

... That's quite a claim, can you please elaborate on how the left incites violence "the most"?

...the president’s campaign has resorted to a very unusual tactic," Romney said. "It’s smear. It’s dirt. It’s distortion. It’s deception. it’s dishonesty. It diminishes the-- it diminishes the office of the presidency itself."

And I'm gonna tell Mommy! Come on, seriously, the "very unusual tactic" that Mitt isn't used to is someone telling him he's wrong.

And if you're "dirty," for example lying about your taxes, you should expect to get criticized about it. If you are hiding unethical/unAmerican activity from voters it is not a smear -- it is not libel if what someone says about you is true. Mitt paid less than a 13.9% tax rate and that is the truth!

You can know for certain when Mitt "dost protest too much" and/or chuckles his Nervous Nelly hehehe -- and this coming from Romney The Carpet Bomber, call the Wambulance!

Jason, see occupy(anything) movement. besides, look at the fringe left in here. Constant violent innuendo all while pretending to be advocates against violence.

... That's quite a claim, can you please elaborate on how the left incites violence "the most"?

Now, now, Jason. Caesar's lower lip is trembling already and asking him to support his insane ravings with actual facts will cause him to break down completely. You should know by now the only "facts" that matter to the right wing lunatic fringe are the ones they make up extemporaneously to support their wild fantasies.

Addendum: "violent innuendo"? Really??? I rest my case.

Nothing is more stupid than Republicans and Democrats, except maybe Republicans or Democrats.

This post will probably get collapsed too. I guess some people don't like what I have to say....

For Mitt Romney to say that the president is running a smear campaign is ludicrous! Of all the people involved in this election, Romney has the worst record for below the belt jabs.

He attacked the other republican candidates, and then immediately began attackjng the President.

Now he's crying foul! TOO FUNNY!

I am still waiting for sequestration to start! when the screaming starts it will melt the cables carrying the Internet. Cyberspace will go supernova!

In so far as Romney accusing Obama of smear campaigns etc. God how long is his Pinocchio nose! How can Obama smear Romney's campaign when Romney has not said anything to smear about?

I cannot wait until Jon Stewart comments on this one, I am going to be so laughing so hard I may not survive until election, DAMN. ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!

derek mind if i ask who you plan to vote for? I can see you dont care for either side and i cant blame you. I personally dont want to see another 4 of Obama. I would vote Whig at this point if there was another viable canidate but i doubt in my lifetime i'll see a third of fourth party

Festerhawg, As of this date, you have only your insurance company and/or your state to blame for unreasonable rate hikes.

Grants will be awarded beginning in 2010

The law allows states that have, or plan to implement, measures that require insurance companies to justify their premium increases to be eligible for $250 million in new grants. Insurance companies with excessive or unjustified premium increases may not be able to participate in the new Affordable Insurance Exchanges in 2014.

Romney accuses Obama of running campaign of 'smear,' 'dirt,' 'deception'

translation:

Pot accuses Kettle of running campaign of 'smear,' 'dirt,' 'deception'

Caesar,

Did I hit a nerve?

It's about damn time the Democrats took the gloves off and pround the GOP/teahadists clear out of the politco arena and let the "true two party" system work.

Here's for a GOP/teahadist disaster in November.

Obama/Biden 2012

Clinton/Polesti 2016

Rod_Father. Hardly. Just wondering why you're a hypocrite and support hypocracy thats all. hitting nerves, nah.

How am I a hypocrite?

I love it, it's only august and Romney has already tagged himself a cry baby !! lolololololololol

How can the right say that Obama has done a bad job with the economy and keep a straight face? We're definitely not losing 800,000 jobs per month anymore, stock market is up over 5,000 points...

Do you really think that going back to the same policies that made this mess (actually even more extreme than Bush) will magically fix our problems? Unless you're obscenely rich or believe any of the ridiculous claims made about Obama over the past 4 years (birthers, any ism the right can think of), voting republican is against your own interests.

I guess Romney was hoping double air time of dirt on the president would work like in the primaries. Romney was actually slipping because most of the dirt on him was true. Sad that he is decrying what he himself brought to new heights as the republican leader. No one has spent as much on dirty ads in politics in the history of the entire world as Mitt Romney.

Actually, when someone puts a dirty ad out, they should call it doing a Romney.

I watched Mitt Romney’s supporters enthusiastically endorse his choice for vice presidential running mate – Paul Ryan. FINALLY, Mitt has an agenda to run on!

Unfortunately, the enthusiasm will be short-lived as they learn how destructive and detrimental the Ryan Plan will be for the American people!

Later, in an interview on 60 Minutes, I had to laugh when Ryan said his job is to help Romney WIN the election – LOL! I think he meant to say ‘LOSE” the election . . . in any case it really doesn’t matter – Romney is perfectly capable of losing the election all by himself!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!

Ok heres the deal Romney's Tax Returns for Fast & Furious Documents

well how far can we trust a guy that starts crying ON stage on his first appearence

after being announced as VP running mate(Male-female?)to rummy? we are in DEEP DO_DO.

At times like this I wish we had something closer to France's Campaigning laws. Very limited in time and very limiting in terms of expenditure.

It forces the candidates to focus on their platform and not shoot holes in their opponent or smear their name.

Sadly here we allow corporations to hand out $$$ like it's monopoly money and there's no real effort to control the accuracy of the ads either side plaster over tv.

And politicans wonder why we detest them.

"We want to make sure we preserve and protect Medicare," Romney claimed.

By shoving costs onto seniors and doing zip about rising medical costs.

How anyone could approve of Ryan's plan is beyond my meager understanding. Whether you are a conservative or a liberal, or moderates and centrists in between, you cannot possibly endorse a plan that would not only cut social programs, but would destroy the welfare state itself. This plan represents the hard right-wing extremists that were thought to have died when Barry Goldwater was shot down in 1968. We all thought that right-wing extremism had died-we were wrong. For the first time in over a half century, there is a candidate on one of the two major parties advocating for the total elimination of the social safety net, and the annihilation of our nation's commitment to the aid and the protection of our nation's impoverished. The Ryan plan is not a serious deficit-reduction plan, not by a long shot. While most deficit reduction plans offer new revenues or at least strive to be revenue-neutral, the Ryan plan is a massive tax giveaway to the wealthiest Americans, essentially making them our new social and economic leaders. In addition, the Ryan plan increases spending on the military; the one part of the discretionary program that we can afford to cut. Finally, no reasonable deficit-reduction deal would ever in a million years destroy the social safety net. Even Simpson-Bowles (a centrist budget) leaves the safety net alone with moderate changes. And that budget has tax increases!! We are in the election of a lifetime. The last generation; your parents' generation, had to deal with an anti-welfare state radical named Barry Goldwater, who was thankfully trumped by a more moderate Richard Nixon in 1968. Now, this generation must face the same trial, this time with Paul Ryan, who actually has a plan to destroy it. If we elect Romney and Ryan, everybody in this generation can kiss Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the whole damn safety net. We will no longer be the land that helps others in poverty; if you're poor and out of luck, go somewhere else.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Puh-lease

Cry a river, of course. Next up...John Boehner...to really open the flood gates.

As opposed to Keith Ellison, the bigger crybaby!

Romney's 2010 tax returns - which are the only ones he has released so they must be the least controversial - contained 55 pages detailing his off-shore investments so if you wackos on the right want proof, I think your boy Romney already provided that.

Romney is whining about negative ads by the Democrats. If I recall correctly, Romney sure did fling some crap at his fellow Republicans during the primaries. He can put his hands on his hips and stomp his feet and cry "No Fair" but it just makes him look like a big baby and an even bigger hypocrite.

Caesar - You're a gas bag.

Caesar, honestly have no idea. Let's put it this way.

Republican worshipers have done nothing to fix what caused the 2008 crash and use the Democrats as an excuse for not getting the job done.

Democratic worshipers have done nothing to fix what caused the 2008 crash and use the Republicans as an excuse for not getting the job done.

IT'S GONNA BE A TIGHT RACE BETWEEN *SSH*LES!

Obama and his sycophants are LIARS. They are gutter politicians with nothing to run on. Too bad for them the campaign has now started. I can't wait for the debates. We've all seen Obama when the teleprompter is turned off. Romney is going to destroy him. Even more amusing will be the spectacle of Ryan reducing "Bite Me" Biden to babbling rants. The chapagne is on ice. Bye bye Obama

This is particularly rich coming from the party that launched the Swift Boat Attack ads. It was later proven that one of the vets they quoted wasn't even in that theatre of operations and another had actually praised Kerry's action at the time of the incident

Mary - What do you expect to find out from his school records - that he took Terrorism 101? Can you prove that he has paid millions to keep any records hidden?

You wacko right-wing nut jobs are unbelievable. Some crazy tea bagger told me this weekend that Obama wants to do away with the Star Spangled Banner and with the flag. Not quite sure why but he just believes this is true because he read it on the Internet somewhere or because someone told him it is true. He hates Obama so much that he will believe any crap that anyone with something crazy to say tells him.

"If there aren't any skeletons in his closet, make some".

Granny was supposedly thrown over the cliff. Oddly, there's nothing to corroborate the reasons why.

Romney submitted all the SEC forms according to the laws written for a privately held company and was accused of being a felon.

Romney submitted all the FEC forms as required by law. Even though nothing can be learned from his tax returns that aren't in the FEC documents, he is being accused of not paying his taxes. When pressed on the accusation, a surrogate said "it is possible". It is just as possible that Obama's tax returns are fraudulent. It is also just as possible that Obama has a police record, and that he beats his wife. There are a lot more accusations that even sleazy rags wouldn't touch being brought by Obama's surrogates.

Romney is accused of not paying his share of taxes. Don't let the fact that he paid what is required according to our tax laws confuse you.

A recent ad in which a man blames Romney for his wife's death neglected to mention that the man lost his job 2 years after he left Bain. He also neglected to mention that his wife had health insurance until she left her job. And one more point, that she developed cancer and died 7 years after Romney left Bain. Now it's his fault that people he has nothing to do with dies.

When asked about the ad, the campaign mananager said that because of the laws concerning the campaigns and Super PACs, she knew nothing about the ad. Perhaps she was unaware that the same man that made the PAC ad was also paid for another campaign ad done a few months earlier. It must be a coincidence that she hosted a conference call with him and other parties. The same coincidence might explain why the recorded conference call containing the story is floating around in the public cyberspace domain.

The Senate and White House have been spending the time they could be using to create a budget criticizing the (minimum of two: Paul's and Romney's) budget plans that have been presented.

Of course the Obama campaign is running a dirty, sleazy, lying, slanderous campaign. I'm not suggesting that he lower himself to the level of his opponent. But this isn't the playground and simply whining about it will cost him the election.

So we're suppose to be an example for the rest of the world? We're suppose to tell the tribes of Aghanistan to get along and do what's best for their country, when our own leaders can't get along and do what's best for our own country? What hypocrites!

We all know Mitt is a piss poor candidate and doesn't speak very well. Doesn't appear to know much about governing either. The son-of-a-bitch does know where He stashed His tax returns though. Show us your tax returns Mitt. Tell us how you made your money Mitt. Did you illegally partake of any bailout money? How did you construct the phoney shenanigan Mittens? I, and many others believe you are a liar and a thief Mittens. You sorry bastard! You aren't fit to talk to anyone about taxes! You've hidden yours out!

What obama is doing is just pure Chicago, Il politics - where you muddy up the waters with unfounded accusations against your opponent and at the same time this same muddy water covers up the dirty works you are doing!

Remember, Illinois is know throughout the country as having the most corrupt political group in the nation - they have more politicians in prison for felonies than any other state....obama is just following in the footsteps he learned left by them!

Feisty Redhead

Soooooo many "likes." Could it be the rhetoric in your comments or this pro-Obama news site? I think we all know the answer.

Where's Romney's Birth certificate and his college transcripts? All this talk of college records is such a load of cr@p that it stinks up the whole thread.

Bush and his crime syndicate had eight years to screw up the country and Obama should have fixed it in 3 1/2?

Even Issa admits there's nothing to Fast and Furious but it gets thrown out more often than the garbage.

Obama is pure Chicago Politics? O.K. then Romney is pure Karl Rove "Accuse your opponent of your faults and cry foul about everything that rings true".

And last of all. Mitt is full of it when it comes to not releasing a reasonable amount of tax returns, when he demands them from others. One year and a partial? Get serious.

Lets move on.

@izzyserious#2.103: I disagree about Chicago politics. No state can beat Texas in raw political corruption. Fact, most of the old confederate states are right damn accomplished in political and voting corruption.

The only dirt I see is a brown streak in a pair of magic underoos.

Concerned, Here's the posibble short comings of your points.
7 good years under Bush? Would that include all the years of overspending and not paying for the wars? Or the tax cuts for the rich? That wasn't all done in the last year of his presidency. I'm not saying all the years were bad, but saying that 7 good years is stretching things a bit. Yes it is time to move on, but we also need to remember the hole we were in is not something that can be erased in just a few years.

You are correct Obama had 2 years of a democrat congress and they could not get much done. Shame about that, but not terribly surprising.

Yes, he has had some leadership experience, but then at least in this election the same can be said of Obama. Whether you agree with what he did or not, he's no longer an inexperienced President. There is also the concern of his plans. Honestly nearly everyone who votes republican is voting against their own financial interests. Then we have sequestration coming which is going to hit the defense department like a ton of bricks. Mainly because they have gotten too used to overspending on things and the defense industry is far too powerful. Now we can bet the Republicans will blame that on Obama, but it was their lack of compromise on a budget bill that got sequestration enacted. This could get lots of people laid off. Of course not the owners and CEO's of the company, just the average workers.

I'm no Democrat nor an I a Republican, but I have to vote for my own financial best interests. If the republicans complain about tax cuts for me, but WANT to give tax cuts to the CEO of my company, I have to vote against them. At least until I become a CEO.

It's hilarious when the Repugnicans show their ultimate stupidity by believing that real middle class American independents are willing to believe that Faux news tells the truth based on fact. Romney wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face just like all Faux news dolts that can't handle the truth.

Ever since the ugly Australian was recruited by Donald Regan and Roger Ailes to teach right wing broadcasters how to twist outright lies into propaganda designed to inflame hate and discontent among our nation's working poor.

Turd blossom used the same tactics to get the A$$hole and his dick, Darth Cheney elected for two terms that flushed our once great nation into the $hit hole caused in entirety by the criminals of Wall Street, Big Biz and the worst Congress (tea baggers) big $ could buy.

Reversing the damages done by the Bush cabal and Tea bag Congress over the last ten years will take fifty years of Democratic government. The once proud GOP no longer deserves to be called the party of Abe, Teddy and Ike that cared about all Americans regardless of race, color or creed.

The 1% and their lackeys that include racists, birthers, warmongers would call Dummy Dutch Reagan a socialist if they knew all the issues that he actually supported could care less about others. Ryan's budget is proof that the Repugnicans have been planning their "Starve the Beast" drive for the last thirty years. They have duped the low intellect Americans to vote against their own interests for years.

Here's to never allowing them to rule again until they come back to reality.

Obama/Biden and every Democratic candidate for House & Senate 2012.

We must regain absolute control of both houses to allow Barack and Joe to finish what they started without the interference from the party of NO.

First, we overturn Citizens United and, then, restore the Fairness Doctrine that will require Fatso Limpballs and any other broadcaster to provide both sides of controversial issues. Since Fatso and the rest of the reich wing slugs on the air are too cowardly to actually debate on the air, they'll crawl back under the rocks that hid them for 30 years.

Nothing today's GOP, and the Romney Ryan campaign, does surprises me anymore. Romney accuses the Democrats of running the same kind of campaign he is running himself. I take those accusations as a victory on the part of the Democrats. Romney is forced to defend his lies over and over again. Not all the money the GOP superpacs have can make the truth about Romney's behavior go away, no matter how badly Romney wants it to happen.

It's real hard to take ANY of you libs serious when you except far FAR more from Romney than you ever did from obama. If you can't admit the faults of your own side, then you have nothing useful to say.

POT MEET KETTLE...Romney scares me and so does Ryan. Together they will, if elected, ruin us all. Dollar signs...all they see are dollar signs.

Typical Republican. Blatantly do one thing then blame opponent for doing it. It reminds me of my 2 year old niece. When asked why she hit her sister, she replied, "She did it!"

Don't get me wrong, both sides do their mud-slinging, but Republicans are just better at it. They will tell their base that something they did wrong was actually done by the Democrats (even if video evidence suggests otherwise) AND THE BASE WILL BELIEVE THEM! I mean, bravo Republicans. Bravo.

AlexM-3929653

It's real hard to take ANY of you libs serious when you except far FAR more from Romney than you ever did from obama. If you can't admit the faults of your own side, then you have nothing useful to say.

Except? You post only makes sense if I change except to expect. I expect Romney to tell the truth as O'bama has. I expect him to explain in detail why he is better than O'Bama. Until he does that then there is NO chance of me even thinking about voting for him.

For the record I am a center left Lincoln Republican, not some R.I.N.O who thinks the southern democratic strategy the GOP has absorbed passes for being a true Republican. Anyone not in line with what Lincoln believed is a R.I.N.O. and that includes most of the elected GOP.

Freshieee -- Agreed about reminding folks of the Goldwater era -- though a better comparison is the Gilded Age of the Robber Barons. And look at conspiracy theories like the John Birch Society, even they are back at it.

If Romney/Ryan are soundly defeated, the far-Right will be sidelined to simmer in their juices for awhile. And that's what the far-Right does, simmer in their juices rather than think maybe they are too extreme. All that sane Americans can do is constantly fight to keep this crap contained.

It is high time to have the debate we are having about the role of government, and the 1% versus the middle class, and FAIRNESS in our society. We are on the verge of becoming an Oligarchy, and all good Americans need to fight for their rights and our constitutional democracy.

Say NO to the Robber Barons!

There are reports coming out that Paul Ryan Eddie Munster was involved in insider trading. Could it be that he is as dirty as Willard.

Job, I don't like the republican ticket like a lot of people, and this item that you posted concernng Paul Ryan, I don't know it that is just a rumor or someone passing bad information, but until something is proven I don't think we should be spreading dirt like the republicans.

There are reports coming out that Paul Ryan Eddie Munster was involved in insider trading

Hey Job1 -

That's just the first report coming out about that little Skid-Mark. I have a good idea that there's plenty more to come...

Obama/Biden 2012

I think political debates should be run more like an actual debate. When arguing over actual facts, cite your evidence.

David, I agree, however, it does go to the heart of the fact the Republicans demonize the poor, while manipulating the system, using tools that are not available to middleclass investors, to benefit themselves.

and then, there is this:

Republican Vice Presidential Pick Paul Ryan sold shares in a number of financial companies including Citigroup, General Electric, Wachovia, and JP Morgan Chase on the same day as then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke held a closed meeting with congressional leaders during the financial crisis.

At issue are the sale of troubled banks like Wachovia and Citi, as well as General Electric's struggling capital unit, dated on September 18, 2008 — the same day as the meeting with Bernanke and Paulson according to the Associated Press.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-ryan-insider-trading-2012-8#ixzz23RuJCDlK

David...only half of what Romney says about Obama is a lie? Name one true thing he has said...the man is a pathological liar.

There would be a lot more coming out about Obama, if he wasn't able to keep everything sealed or shielded behind executive privilege. But liberals don't care about anything that goes on in their own party, just that side of the isle over there.

When congress has to pass a pretend law about insider trading, that is all for show and stops nothing, you can take to the bank vast majority in Washington is doing it. It would be like passing a law that says a tax cheat cannot be the secretary of the treasury, unless he is sorry he cheated. For every one door Washington closes, dozens more are opened.

If you add up the numbers on politifact, Romney only tells the truth 29% of the time.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/mitt-romney/

Caligula, the most recent item was Romeny saying that Obama was doing away with the welfare item that calls for people wishing to stay on welfare that they have to be looking for a job. That is still in place and not going away. Of course, you as a republican will dispute that as you think all republicans are lily white and never lies.

Where's Feisty, Eric 913730 is spamming

How's Eric spamming?

David? Are you sure you meant to respond to me? I said that ROMNEY is a pathological liar.

If you ever call me a Republican again I'll....I'll...well I don't know what I'd do...but you wouldn't want to find out! :-)

Hey caligula, hows the horse over Baiae? Did you make it a Consul too? funny you chose an emperor who's not only a narcissist but flat out Looney. typical liberals, always picking the sickest effs out there to admire.

GT, ask your Furher Feisty.

Caesar Augustus was a rich boy dictator who did away with the senate's authority. A true tea party republican

Erik,

You do realize the Tampa Bay Times is a very Left leaning publication, right???

A 29% rating, for a conservative, by them, is as good 100%, by an impartial site.

yes Lori, that is true, care to tell us when that happened? funny you want to discuss the Principate of Rome but not current events

Remember you lefties should love Augustus, he was emperor just like Obama wants to be Rex Perpetuus

Caesar - I don't need to prove anything to you. Graduated with honors and I do quite well. That's all you get from me.

Obama/Biden 2012

Caligula, if I miss read what you wrote, then I apologize. As far as what you would do to me, that I'm not concerned in the least and I would not lose any sleep over it.

Rick - are you seriously saying that there would be a lot more bad things about Obama, but they have been kept secret, therefore, no one knows about them? Including you, the news media, the republicans who might blow the secret, etc? But you are sure of those bad things? And you accuse the liberals of making stuff up? Seriously? At least we're very specific about our criticisms, so if we are making the stuff up, you can dispute it with facts, right? But if it is secret, well then, how can we dispute that?

How's Eric spamming?

Eric's using facts to support his statement. In the teabagger's dimly lit fantasy world that constitutes spamming.

Obama can NOT run on his sorry record!!

[I]f you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from." That is what Barack Obama said when he accepted his party's presidential nomination in 2008. Four years later, it reads like a prophetic description of his re-election campaign.
See story in washingtonexaminer.com

Caesar,

Sounds like you may well be lacking of intelligence. I am sure you make up for it with "common sense".

Remember you lefties should love Augustus, he was emperor just like Obama wants to be Rex Perpetuus

Emperor of what? First you would have to split up all the states into kingdoms. Or parts of the states. Can't even get your facts straight on a dirt tossing statement. You're getting desperate and a bit loony.

Sally....It is true...Rick doesn't know, what he doesn't know, when he said we don't know , what we don't know.

Obama knows...what Rick doesn't know.

Paul Ryan foreign policy exprerience.....Ryan can see Milwaukee from his kitchen!!!

"Insider Trading"? Isn't that what Martha Stewart was jailed for? So, if your family is friends with a family that was "instrumental" in 9/11, and then under a facade of retaliation, you take your country to war in the wrong direction, meaning, the wrong country--while playing the "I am Strong" card as you and your buddies reap in monetary gains from Halliburton and 'everywhere, from anyone" I want. Isn't that kinda like an "Insider" deal? Where only those "In the Know"...know about?

Like when Hallibuton (former Vice President and former CEO) Cheney's company bought an Oil Clean Up Company 8 days before the BP Gulf Oil Spill in 2010. (Watch the "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors" documentary.

Insider trading, insider tips, same, same...all equals money. That's the name of the game in business, right? Make money? Money is the root of ALL evil.

Big Business = Big Money = Romney/Ryan = Ruin.

Dirt? Distortion? Deception? Dishonesty = "Romoney" and Ryan "Med-i-care-less." Together they are a team that wrote the book on deception. It's a best seller coming to a platform near you.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, ILRestored

This is PRICELESS coming from the campaign who refuses to talk about ANYTHING!

Time for Team Willard to pull up their big girl/boy panties and STOP the incessant whining!

No, actually your comment is what's priceless, while also being representative of the typical inherent comment of an inbred voter and liberal hypocrite (oh but I repeat myself).

What's even better is the fact that the one time presidential candidate who campaigned in 2008 on the idea of HOPE & CHANGE, and things like Job Creation and Putiting America back to work, hasn't got a HOPE nor a PRAYER of propelling his now 3 year old re-election campaign based on accomplishments..... that's because there aren't any, with the 1 single exception of the extermination of Osama Ben Laden, which was only accomplished because of the personal assassins, (as Obama once refered to Seal Team 6) assembled specifically by Bush and Cheney.

So what's Obama got left, Nothing... absolutely nothing. Hence the good ole fashion Attack, Smear and Run tactics of a desperate politician. That's the HOPE for CHANGE you vote for... actually, someone like you would have voted for anything wearing the Jackass symbol. Team Socialist is over, you know it, and Obama knows it all to well,... never forget the historic Nov. 2010 election results. America spoke 2 years ago, and now Nov. 2012 is almost upon us. I wonder how many presidential pardon's Obama will be issuing during his final days. Wonder if he'll let his old buddy Rod Biglogof@!$%# get a free walk. Will be interesting to see how many rats/friends he'll be giving a get-out-of-jail-free card to.

So listen up girly, the clock is ticking, and Ayers' puppet boyz time will soon coming to an end. Pray like hell that the stars don't get aligned for Team Willard, during his rein, because bye bye Obamacare... if it was so great, why didn't the jackasses that voted for it, also accept it for themselves. If that doesn't tell you how much worse it is than our current system, nothing will, which is to be expected with an inbred voter.

The MIRICAL MAN's time is up,

http://www.youtube.com/embed/QXEoQJ7ZMZs?feature=player_detailpage

Caligula, if the R.I.N.O. trolls can get to you they will, it's better to ignore them. As long as they are posting here, they are occupied doing something relatively harmless.

@Duphas, O'bama is no one's puppet, Romney and Ryan are both puppets of billionaires like Sheldon Adelson.

As for your link you know where you can put it.

I could have a field day with your newsvine nick itself. But no as you as you cannot post any thing of substance I won't play with you any more.

All you posted was one big hot air of a rant and I hope Fiesty shreds your post with all the contempt it deserves BULLY.

Hey caligula, hows the horse over Baiae? Did you make it a Consul too? funny you chose an emperor who's not only a narcissist but flat out Looney. typical liberals, always picking the sickest effs out there to admire.

And then...

funny you want to discuss the Principate of Rome but not current events

Yes, Caesar, irony is funny.

See my comment above, for another good laugh. Hint: it almost flawlessly describes what you just did.

ObamaDontCare cuts $$700 Billion from Medicare!!!

And is still the largest TAX increase in World History!!

Hey David...chill out, man...you take this crap waaaaaaay too seriously :-))

Oh and Ryan's wifey is a "Tax Lawyer" and now a stay at home mom. Riddle me this connies: Perchance was she working on Mitt's tax returns? And why do we need Tax lawyers. Most middle class people just fill out their 1040's every year and pay what they owe. No tax lawyer required! Go Figure! Must be nice sitting behind a desk all day pushing paper while the rest of us are breaking our a$$ in the manufacturing and building sector of the economy. Yup the paper pusher now account for 33% of the American economic engine. You know guys like Mitt and his accountant running mate. Nothing more than sophisticated pawnbrokers!

TY: Oh and Ryan's wifey is a "Tax Lawyer" and now a stay at home mom. Riddle me this connies: Perchance was she working on Mitt's tax returns? And why do we need Tax lawyers. Most middle class people just fill out their 1040's every year and pay what they owe. No tax lawyer required! Go Figure! Must be nice sitting behind a desk all day pushing paper while the rest of us are breaking our a$$ in the manufacturing and building sector of the economy. Yup the paper pusher now account for 33% of the American economic engine. You know guys like Mitt and his accountant running mate. Nothing more than sophisticated pawnbrokers!

Tell the truth TY, you're really a Harry Reid clone, except without the charm.

Torpedo. Lots of middle class people use tax lawyers and tax accountants. I bet even a few democrats do too. Except maybe those that owe back taxes.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/09/congress-taxes-irs.html

LOL got to love that liberal tolerance.

No charm required JAS..Now quit trying to seduce me with your wit and charm and actually refute the FACTS I laid out for you in my post. Are you Mrs. Spanky in disguise? Comon now you can do it or are you just another paper pusher like the Spankster who spends his day writing boiler plate 3 net leases. Do you actually know how anything works, or about supply chains or MRP or Can-ban or JIT or ISO 9001:2006?

Do you really WORK for a living?

Just askin?

Well KSW that depends on what the definition of "INCOME" is now isn't it? You figure it out!

Oh BTW...Here in Arizona which is 100% controlled by Teabaggers..(House, senate, Gov. and county government) We have a 9.5% sales tax. So guess what, you want a new car for 20K, you gotta cough up almost 2K for the state. If you're middle class that is almost 10% of every $ you spend at your local Wal-Mart and STAPLEs (Mitt's Company). You know the stores that sell stuff mostly made in CHINA. YUP American Exceptionalism!

Well lets see TY, you had some conjecture about Ryan's wife being Romney's "tax attorney", with no proof, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for types like you. We need tax consultants because the tax code is so complicated no near mortal can understand any of it. You chose the job you took, if you don't like it, do something else.

Consider yourself refuted.

ksw: Torpedo. Lots of middle class people use tax lawyers and tax accountants. I bet even a few democrats do too.

I would imagine Geithner and Rangel wish they had.

JAS...You realy need professional help! My post about Ryan's wife being Mitt's Tax attorney was a joke..Then again most connies do not know the meaning of the word. FYI the "tax code" is brought to you by wall street types and other special interests who happen to own the United States Congress. A truly non partisan endeavor. How about we scrap the Tax code and throw the likes of Ms. Ryan and Tax accountants out of work and work out a simple tax plan where ALL income is taxed progressively?

@ Torpedo Those democrats righteous indignation seems to go out the door when accepting political contributions. It must be so confusing, is Bain profit good or bad?

http://articles.boston.com/2012-05-23/nation/31814221_1_obama-campaign-mitt-romney-romney-claims

http://vote.sigfig.com/org/Bain%20Capital/-

TY: JAS...You realy need professional help!

I do have professional help to help with my taxes. They're not as simple as yours you see. You know what they say 'Simple minds, simple taxes'.

work out a simple tax plan where ALL income is taxed progressively?

You mean like Simpson/Bowles? Sure. Go for it.

I do have professional help to help with my taxes. They're not as simple as yours you see. You know what they say 'Simple minds, simple taxes'.

Turbo Tax Online eh?

Oh BTW...Here in Arizona which is 100% controlled by Teabaggers..(House, senate, Gov. and county government) We have a 9.5% sales tax.

Torpedo -

Yeah, 17th and Jefferson has been re-zoned as a mental institution.....

I do have professional help to help with my taxes. They're not as simple as yours you see. You know what they say 'Simple minds, simple taxes'.

Yeah Snuffy -

I'll bet that 1040EZ form is really hard on your brillianrt mind...LMAO....

Obama/Biden 2012

There are so many rocks...it's hard to tell which one Ms. smith has crawled out from under...

LOL!!!

the same rock you climbed out from Cali. You realize little boots, you idolize a sick eff

Trash TV

from the article above:

"It’s smear. It’s dirt. It’s distortion. It’s deception. it’s dishonesty. It diminishes the-- it diminishes the office of the presidency itself."

Karl Rove is the most recent master of smear, distortion, and dishonesty. Thanks to Rupert Murdoch and News Corporation, they have perfected deceiving the American Public for over 25 years now.

But the Republican media has a long history of smear tactics and vile hatred towards everything and anything Democratic or Democrat values.

Who of you remember these names?

Les Crane , Joe Pyne, Wally George, Morton Downey Jr., Rush Limbaugh, Lee Atwater, Shawn Hannity, and Roger Ailes. The list goes on with the current stock of 'shock jocks', only now the airwaves are filled with Republican propaganda.

And Governor Romney has the gall to accuse President Obama of smear tactics.

Salud

Actually..JAS.. I don't need any accounting or lawyer help with my taxes...I have two corporations and a book keeper and guess what..I CAN READ! Can you...Reading and comprehension are fundamental doncha know!

Someone is telling stories pretty funny.

Picking on Caligula for his choice of nicks, Caesar Augustus, dirty pool. The Caesar who you used as a basis for a nick, poisoned his own relatives to death to insure he would be succeeded by Tiberius.

Try to focus on the threads topic. Not that you ever have.

And smart people (that excludes first read regulars), know he can not run on his record so a smear campaign is all he has.

And smart people (that excludes first read regulars)

Good idea to exclude yourself from the smart thinking group. At least you are honest!!!

Mr. Obama is all about smoke and mirrors,his policies and his record proves it.

Whatzamatta Truth2u, Obama isn't cleaning up Bush's mess fast enough to suit you. It doesn't work that way. And with Tea-Baggers the likes of Ryan deliberately stalling progress, it does take a long time.....

Obama/Biden 2012

Liberals are going to vote for Obama not for what he has done, said he would do, or promised he would do. Obama calls himself a liberal, and that is all it takes to get the liberal vote. It really is no more difficult then that to understand. Until liberals decide to hold their party accountable don't expect much to get done in Washington. So far no one in the Democratic Party has even put forth a proposal to solve anything, but they do relish the chance to attack those that have. Talk is cheap, and the Democratic Party is all talk.

Rick - Republicans and far righters will vote for Romney and Ryan strictly because the are the ones on the GOP ticket - no other reason. Many will not look into their records or know anything about them. They will do what they are told by their leaders - not realizing the GOP could care less about the middle class.

The Democrats, Independents - you know, liberals - will do research and decide which slate is best for the country. And, that's not too difficult. The GOP slate will destroy the middle class while the Democratic slate will help to improve the lives of everyone.

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Rick & Bob, et. al.: I would gladly vote for a viable alternative to President Obama, unfortunately, the Republican Party has not produced one. Instead, they are putting forth Willard Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan as their standard bearers.

The thoughts put forth by this gruesome twosome are more of the same policies intent on destroying the poor and middle class while enhancing the fortunes of the wealthy which have not worked. Cutting taxes for the rich and cutting aid to the poor while the middle class gets slammed does not improve the economy.

It will not help to cut $2.5trillion from Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps and student loans if you give $3trillion to millionaires and billionaires. Contrary to popular belief, tax cuts for the wealthy do not lead to more jobs. In fact, if you follow history, just the opposite is true. The greatest period of job creation has coincided with the highest levels of top marginal corporate and personal taxes.

Perhaps it is time to get rid of the subchapter C & S and LLC differentiations and just tax all companies the same. Also, get rid of "carried interest," captital gains and other methods of cheating the government and tax everything the same, and have all individual income subject to SS and Medicare tax. That alone would make both SS and Medicare solvent.

its funny as Gingerbread spews hate. Classic

Funny how Republicans cry like a schoolyard bully who gets punched in the nose when their tactics are used against them. Grow up or go home Willard!

Come this fall all theses attempts by the Obama campaign to distract voters with meaningless drivel will come to an end. Obama will be facing his lack of record everyday on every channel when the Romney/Ryan campaign takes it to the president. Hype and blame will not carry Obama through the fall campaign, he has nothing of substance to offer and voters know we cannot risk four more years on a do nothing president. Talk is cheap, and all Obama can offer is talk.

What else are they going to do, Rick, run on his record? Please.

They tried getting him "off prompter", so he didn't look like one of those bobble head dolls- right, left;right, left;- and, also, so he could "connect" with people. That led to "you didn't build that",. It also led to this

From NBC's Cosmic Log

"If in fact you do make contact with Martians, please let me know right away," Obama said during the call, which was placed from Air Force One to NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "I've got a lot of things on my plate, but I expect that that will go to the top of the list. Even if they're just microbes, it will be pretty exciting."
Obama also said he was impressed by the attention that's been paid to flight director Bobak Ferdowsi, the "Mohawk Guy" whose star-spangled haircut and warmhearted demeanor during Curiosity's Aug. 5 landing won him Internet fame.

"I, in the past, thought about getting a Mohawk myself," Obama joked. "But my team keeps on discouraging me. And now that he's received marriage proposals and thousands of new Twitter followers, I think I'm going to go back to my team and see if it makes sense."

http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/13/13259297-obama-tells-curiosity-rovers-team-let-me-know-if-you-see-martians?lite

THIS is the "smartest guy in the room"?  

I don't know what's worse- that there was, ever, anybody who thought this idiot was even vaguely capable of actually being president- or that there are still some who, despite all evidence to the contrary, still do.

njnb - again with the idiotic and meaningless posts. Clearly he was joking with people he was talking to. Our President has a sense of humor - and that's a bad thing?

Considering the GOP is running to jokes, you should appreciate this!

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that is funny Obama/Biden 2012. thanks for the laugh

seeking,

you're dealing with people who have no sense of humor......unless its some way to screw the middle class

economy is really funny eh lori.

Lori - they must have a sense of humor - and no values - they're running Mitt/Paul!

Obama/Biden 2012

GOP Crime factory,

Why should Romney release more tax returns? And why should he not have a swiss bank account, or money in the cayman's ? Have you checked to see how many Rich Liberals have accounts there? Stop repeating the Liberal talking points and do some thinking on your own, but that would probably be to much to ask, it's easier to live off your neighbors hard work

from the article above.

We also just, we just landed on Mars and took a good look at what's going on there.

And when Govenor Romney realized that Bain Capitol had already been to Mars and left a desolate planet, he thought to himself, "This would be super-duper idea to do this to America."

Salud.

As Ben Bernanke said, "The economy is Congress's responsibility".

The only jokes republicans understand is making fun of people with Parkinson's Disease. You're a really classy bunch.

Actually Gavin, Romney and Ryan would do a great Penn & Teller, only 'good' thing is that Ryan would be the one that talks.

Even Republicans are having a hard time keeping a straight face when Mitt opens his mouth with accusations. He pretty much character assassinated his fellow Republicans in the primaries with an onslaught of lies.

Hard to believe Republicans really want Mitt.

Mitt Romney should use "Kumbaya My Lord" music every time that he speaks, he is so clean/ SARCASM

No, Robme won't ask that other countries "be nice to us". He'll just bomb them all, starting with Iran.

See my post #26. Tried to post it right after yours, but a bunch more got posted first.

What a great guy Obama is...letting everyone know that Mitt has killed people. What a joke his clean campaign is.

Six degrees of separation

From the article above.

Mitt Romney returned to the campaign trail in this critical swing state Monday morning without his new running mate, but armed with new rhetoric accusing President Obama of running a dishonest campaign meant to deceive the American people.

Here’s how it works.

1. Citizens United makes it possible for Corporations to donate undisclosed amounts of money to Super-PACs.
2. Super-PACs take the money to advertising companies.
3. Advertising companies make dishonest campaign commercials and purchase time on Media outlets.
4. Media outlets gladly take the money because they are corporations.
5. “Corporations are People, My Friends”. Says Governor Romney.
6. Governor Romney accuses President Obama of running a dishonest campaign.

Salud.

bob: Romney said Ryan's budget was "marvelous"....now he is distancing himself and creating his own budget.....guess Ryan's plan is not "marvelous" after all....another flip-flop from old etch-a-sketch.

Romney asked Ryan for "several years" of tax returns in order to vet him, but will only offer the American voters two years of his own returns - what does that tell you?

Nice lie Amy, I saw it on TV this weekend he said he gave Romney 2 years.

It tells us you are merely trying to distort the truth.

Where's Obama's budget Amy ? Does he have a budget ... as REQUIRED BY LAW ?

Actually Bob, the Senate could pass a budget resolution, but without the cooperation of the HOUSE or 60 votes, that resolution would not take effect, it would be an empty gesture, though the Senate HAVE passed budgets to keep the Government running.

Ummm Jim, President Obama's never had 'any' budgets?

enacting the $814 billion stimulus WAS part and parcel to the budget

the $3.7 trillion 2011 budget President Obama unveiled the administration estimated reductions to federal spending deficits by $1.1 trillion over the next decade if adopted and economic assumptions were fully achieved.

President Obama's 2013 $3.8 trillion budget, Republicans called it a nonstarter and dead on arrival, because of raising taxes on the rich.

jim......145 ..... Read Amy's post again. He gave the Romney campaign...several years as requested, the campaign choose to release TWO wouldn't want to put out more than Romney has offered. Any campaign worth its salt (not that the GOP is) but let's call it insurance, wants to make sure there are no surprises in the life of a possible candidate.

Romney and crew should know that's why he wont show the American people more years of his, and that's why McCain went with Sarah Palin after looking at 22 years of Romney's.

Jim...depending what channel you watch especially Fox, if you want to know the real story, google and research...that is if your interested in the truth dont take anything for granted.

abcnews.go.com/.../will-paul-ryan-release-his-tax-returns/
You +1'd this publicly. Undo

by Jonathan Karl - More by Jonathan Karl

Jim-1455434

United States Code established the statutory basis for an executive budget process through the"The Budget and Accounting Act of 1921"

The President is required to submit to Congress annually a proposed budget for the federal government.

It also created the Bureau of the Budget (reorganized as the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) in 1970) to assist him in carrying out his responsibilities, and the General Accounting Office (GAO) to assist Congress as the principal auditing agency of the federal government.

(source: http :// fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/34649.pdf)

The President's FY 2013 budget can be found at http ://www .whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/budget.pdf

I know that if you actually look, you can find the other budgets on the whitehouse.gov website.

Now regarding Rep. Ryan's tax returns released to Gov. Romney:

"It was a very exhaustive vetting process,” Ryan said when asked about the tax issue in a joint interview with Romney on the CBS program “60 Minutes” that aired last night. “There were several years” of returns that he turned over, he said.

“But I’m going to release the -- the same amount of years that Governor Romney has” for public review, he added."

(source [among others]: http ://www .bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-12/ryan-says-he-released-several-years-of-taxes-to-romney-camp.html

Now please apologize to Amy for calling her a liar.

No, what we've got here is someone who can't read the post that said there were 110,000 million people on welfare. It's sad really, that you don't even understand the post you're insulting, or the post it was pointing out as being seriously mistaken.

There is nothing at all about Obama that I do like. Guess who I'm voting for?

That's called hatred. It is an illness that has seriously infected a part of America. Hatred more than anything is damaging this country. If we could sit down at a table and have a logical discussion positive things might actually. But hatred tends to be intractable and does not permit such things. And of course you would claim the same of your opponents. It's just become a big circle of name calling and slander. And that's all Romney is doing here. Gee, what a surprise! It's also awaste of time as it changes no ones mind.

I truly like this President and I see a lot of my own traits in him. As the son of two college professors I know far to well how people react to real intellect. It is after all something money can't buy and no miracle drug can provide as a remedy. Better to call those like Obama stupid or evil and point out the relatively few verbal mistakes they have made. I suppose that makes some feel good, maybe even superior. And then you can say they said the same about Bush. As if that makes it all OK.

I also do not think much of America is mature enough for a minority President. And living in the South nearly all of my life I believe it will be several more generations (75 years perhaps?)before the hate that plagues those like this president softens. And that will only be when those who are now in majority become the minority.

vox - well said and absolutely right on target. I grew up in NC and was so pleased to see it go for Obama in the last election. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it does so again in November.

There are a lot of smart people there who I hope will outnumber the crazies who are afraid of our President because of the way he looks and the fact that he has a different name. And, you're right, smart people scare some people.

If they look at the choices, they know he's one hundred times better than what the GOP is offering!

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110,000 million is 110 BILLION. Thats more people than have ever lived and died in this planets history. Kinda hard to believe that the entire historical population of this planet (plus a few others) is on welfare.

The polls show that 54% of the people that said the primary reason for voting for Romney are doing it out of spite for Obama, and only 34% think he would be better. Doesn't sound like a very good reason.

Thank you Storm, I was trying to make that clear but I suppose there are some who won't understand unless it's spelled out in small words. And of course some who will continue to refuse to comprehend anyway.

Recent polls show that statistics are used to confuse people about 80% of the time. The people doing the polling don't know what they are talking about the other 30% of the time.

When a guy has a deceptive dirty history, how do you talk about him without bringing it up?

Too bad the Republican party has yet to have a candidate anyone with a brain will vote for.

ZOMBIES FOR ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 !!!

MORONS for Obama.

How's that Hope/Change thing working out for you 6 Trillion dollars later? Oh, I forgot, that's Bush's fault.

G.C., you have a double amputees running on the GOP ticket right now, except theirs is from the neck up, doncha know?

We already saw the trickle down change ....it still isn't working. Time to make people like Rumney pay their fair percentage of tax 10%? Even Newt paid 31% what a bottom feeder!

Regurgitated supply side economics, wanting to start ANOTHER war by bombing Iran, completely deregualting Wall St and big corporations and MORE useless deficit exploding tax cuts that have bankrupted this country is "voting for real change" G. C.? Robme has been consulting with CHENEY and former Bush people on foreign affairs as well as his former cabinet members on ECONOMIC issues and we've seen this movie before .EPIC FAIL!!!

"Governor Romney claimed he created 100,000 jobs at Bain, and people want to know, is there proof of that claim? Was it U.S. jobs for American citizens."~ Sarah Palin.

Obama is creating jobs right here in America 1.7 million illegal aliens and counting.

Sorry Beaches, that's Gingrich who wants children to work, not President Obama.

More illegals have been DEPORTED under the Obama Administration and border security increased but keep clinging to your lies and hatred Beaches if it makes you feel good.

Obama called Americans LAZY!!!

G.C. - nice out of context comment. You KNOW that's not true at all but - you're a good little Republican so you'll post all lies!

bob - your stupidity is showing. President Obama voted "present" no more than any other Senator - and less than most! And, idiot, he's as much of an US Citizen as anyone in this country who was born here!

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Amy B. Portland, ME:

Now I have heard everything, the economy is psychological. So all those small business closures are nothing but a figment of our imagination.

Do you really think that our IRS Tim the cheat would not have already thrown the book at Romney if he had done anything illegal? Please give me a brake, and let's talk about the economy and the ideology of Obama.

Have we notice how the usual 6 to 8 extreme liberal on this post get when they are wounded by the news?

No, I heard it right from the man's mouth, he pretty much said you and I were lazy. Keep seeking for your sanity, please.

G.C. well, President Obama works so hard, it does make most of us look lazy!

G.C. - you heard nothing like it from President Obama's mouth. And you prove what I always say, seeking sanity in the GOP but people like G.C. and concern prove there is absolutely none to be found in the GOP!

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Bob #24.2

President Obama "Never" voted "present" in the "US Senate" (Soros bought) so you and the 5 doozles who voted you up should be quite proud of how "uneducated" you are!

@ B Dune get your facts straight. He actually voted "present" 129 times as a Senator. I don't think 129 = never.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/obamas-legislative-record/

Before you bash I do understand it was the Illinois state senate.

Do you really think that our IRS Tim the cheat would not have already thrown the book at Romney if he had done anything illegal?

It's not so much the illegal aspect, unethical works just as well for me. But then again, we'll never know, will we? (shhhhhhh, let's just keep this a secret)

ksw - yes it was the Illinois Senate and he voted present much less often than his Republican counterparts. So, your point would be ??????

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Just that 129 does not equal never.

ksw - whoooo hooooo! I believe you brought it up as if it was somehow unusual so now you just look foolish!

Actually, if you look at b dune's reply to you she said he never voted "present" in the US Senate - so she was correct!

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obama in 2012 you will not have a country in 2014

G.C. - You need to check your facts and stop slinging dirt

In other words, Obama is highlighting a serious problem. Perhaps the phrase “lazy” is a bit overheated, but it clear from the context of Obama’s remarks that he is not saying Americans are lazy. He’s talking about a trend over a two-decade period that indicates a certain complacency in trying to win business and investment.

Geno - keep posting that nonsense. We are less likely to have a country if the GOP wins the White House. They don't give a damn about the country - it's all about winning!

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@ Seeking Nope actually B Dune brought it up and you just look immature with all your "stupid" name calling.

Here is a fact for you. Today, under President Obama leadership each American shares $50,832.01 of the U.S. debt. By the time we have a winner in the next Presidential election each American will share >$51,897.08 in U.S. debt and climbing, especially if we have another 4 years under President Obama.

ksw - actually YOU are the one who "corrected" her when she was absolutely right so you are the less than intelligent one! See how this works??? You actually were wrong and she was right! (I knew I'd have to spell it out for you!) He NEVER voted "present" in the US Senate!

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GC not to worry that 50,000 went somewhere....oh the hands of people like Rumney that pay 10% tax on their earnings while working people pay 28%

Even Newt paid 31% Rumney is a bottom feeder!

This sounds just like O-Blame-A. Quit to point out problems from YEARS AGO that he was elected to FIX and FAILED miserably, so blame someone else.

Obama can NOT run on his sorry record!!

[I]f you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from." That is what Barack Obama said when he accepted his party's presidential nomination in 2008. Four years later, it reads like a prophetic description of his re-election campaign.
See story in washingtonexaminer.com

border Joe, if your source is the Washington examiner, a rag by any stretch of the imagination, anything you say is completely irrelevant. QED.

BTW, the examiner is given away free to any and all who would take it, makes a great cat box liner.

NO it doesn't make a great cat box liner! The ink stains the box!