I wonder how many years worth of tax returns are available from Paul Ryan? Anyone know?

Cause Rmoney will have some explaining to do if its more than 1...

We the corporations? -- According to Beth Myers who was in charge of the vetting, Team Romney required "several years" tax returns. Several years, though vague, are more than two years... To avoid a double standard, Romney would have to release 2008 and 2009...

It's a great day to expose Ryan and his plan in Chicago.

Paul Ryan's Own Neighbors Won't Vote for Him

Read more: http://www.politicolnews.com/paul-ryans-own-neighbors-wont-vote-for-him/#ixzz23Np6uqLE

Mr. Ryan, Our President gave you a great overture to rid yourself of the drastic cuts to the middle class and poor your neighbors think of you.

"Chicago that toddling town. Chicago, Chicago I will show you around - I love it. Bet your bottom dollar you lose the blues in Chicago. "

4 more years for 44

Obama/Biden 2012

Romney and Ryan know it

I wonder how many years worth of tax returns are available from Paul Ryan?

According to Willard's chief vetter - SEVERAL!

WASHINGTON, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Mitt Romney released two years of his own tax returns to the public but that didn't appear to be enough when he vetted running-mate Paul Ryan and other vice presidential candidates.

The campaign team for Romney, the Republican presidential candidate, reviewed several years of tax returns from Ryan and other, according to the head of Romney's VP search process Beth Myers.

Even though poor T-Paw couldn't remember this morning! lol

WHOOPSY!

We the corporations

Only Two years returns are required, those have been supplied.

Meanwhile, Romney raised 3.5 million in the last 24 Hours, up from his normal 2.4 million per day.

Mitt Romney 1922

Paul Ryan 1890

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Let's go back to the Bush/Cheney mindset......2 wars are winding down we need a NEW one to send our youngest and brightest soldiers to fight in some God forsaken country not worth a spit in the ocean.

Our deficit is not that much now as when Bush/Cheney left.......bring in some more Republicans to show us how to increase that deficit while all the time promising otherwise.

Finally, our 1% need a tax break........price of fuel for yachts has skyrocketed and put a damper on those 3rd and 4th mansions that stimulate the economy.

Four more years of Republican promises and lies.........that's what we all need...............REALLY!

So it's fair to demand from Romney what is demanded of every Presidential candidate; and to demand from the President what nobody has ever been requested to provide? What arrogant racism.

No wonder Republicans are so confused with their own messaging. The cognitive dissonance is truly dizzying. At least Romney has officially made himself an historical footnote with his tone deaf VP choice.

Oh, and the President has not spent anything to block anything. School records are private for everyone. Do not get your news from Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, Romney raised 3.5 million in the last 24

Meanwhile, President Obama raised 4-5 million today alone!

So, what is your point again?

Only Two years returns are required, those have been supplied.

Nope, just half of 2010 and an estimate for 2011. Where did you get that talking point, cause its wrong.

is college transcripts and financial aid applications. Fair I think..

Really? You equate the records of a 21 year old student to that of a man who ran multiple businesses, was governor, and running for president? Nope, not fair. Mitt just needs to equal what Obama has already done and release 10 years...wouldn't you agree THAT is fair?

Let's go back to the Bush/Cheney mindset

Do you mean the two unfunded wars and Medicare prescription plan which Ryan voted for?

Now we are suppose to believe this clown is some kind of deficit hawk! lmao!

Does the right wing seriously think American's are that STUPID?

I'm not sure how selecting Paul Ryan and his ultra conservative philosophy will help move the needle for Mitt to get the electoral votes he needs. How does this choice motivate leaning Obama voters and moderate undecideds to vote for Romney?

If anything this seems polarizing to me and seals the deal for Obama.

Mitt the Vulture has not paid taxes, in addition to other tax-evading vultures, that's why there is not enough going into Medicare and social security, then Ryan proposes to end Welfare as we know it, blaming LBJ and good-hearted Democrats who initiated it.

We don't want Ryan and his MediScare. Besides, please remember -

it's Mitt the Vulture who is running for president, and Mitt the UnFitt is not fit for the Office of the President.

am sure Romney will release his tax records as soon as Obama, who spent millions blocking their release, will show his college transcripts and financial aid applications. Fair I think...

Obama has already released 7 years of returns. and he hasnt had anything sealed.

http://factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

This is an example of mostly old baloney in a new casing. It mainly recycles years-old falsehoods and insinuations, most of which we covered long ago, in connection with an earlier viral email.

But with President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign heating up, this new graphic has appeared on countless anti-Obama websites and in viral emails like the one we’ve reprinted here. Very little that it contains is new, and the old falsehoods have not improved with age.

His transcripts are irrelevant. we're still waiting for the equivalent from Romney --tax returns.

Drew, Drew, Drew:

Here we go again, mixing apples with crap! The President's transcripst have nothing to do with his taxes, soooo if this is the case, Willy Mitty should, should provide his school records and also have him explain why he is a COWARD and instead of joining the military and serve his Country ( Oh wait he is Mexican! more about this later) his daddy sent him to France to avoid the draft, but He is willing to start another war and send other people's children to fight and die.

Why Willard Mitty is Mexican? His father as born in Mexico, so by the juis soli his father was Mexican by birth and by the juis sangri American. Soooo Willy Mitt is Mexican by birth because his father was, no matter if he was born in the USA, he still is a Mexican!!

I'm not aware of any formal requirement for presidential candidates to release any tax returns. If anyone knows, please feel free to share a source.

This is based on precedence started when "Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew, pleaded no contest in 1973 to tax evasion." However, I believe it is required for those serving in congress to provide financials each year, and why Senators like McCain releasing only two years returns was not an issue -- And also McCain did not have off-shore accounts, etc.

So the argument about what is legal, including what is legal in regard to loopholes for tax evasion, only holds water with someone as out-of-touch and entitled as Romney (and Paul Ryan). One can simply reason that if congress needs to be transparent, or cabinet members, someone running for POTUS needs to release tax returns all the more.

But when someone is as historically wealthy as Romney (more than estimated) and has a Swiss bank account, and paid only a 13.9% tax rate, and that someone has lied about his taxes before to be eligible to run for governor, and no one has seen his taxes, even McCain has not seen the 2008 and 2009 returns -- Even DB knows in his dark little rightwing heart that Romney needs to PROVE to the American voters that he deserves to hold the highest office in the land.

@Fiesty - "Meanwhile, President Obama raised 4-5 million today alone!"

coughsbull@!$%#

Why can't you liberals admit that Obama is an absolute failure? I am not implying you should vote Romney in November, but the least you could have done is force someone to challenge Obama in the primaries. I still don't know why Clinton didn't...Obama is such an inempt president that she would have killed him the primaries.

ROMNEY RYAN 2012!!!

coughsbull@!$%#

Prove me wrong big-boy!

So far you kinda suck at the propaganda bull@!$%#!

Here's your chance to redeem yourself! ;o)

Why can't you liberals admit that Obama is an absolute failure?

Because he is not, Bush was an absolute failure. Obama is just a moderate guy doing moderate thing and getting moderate results. But 29 STRAIGHT MONTHS OF PRIVATE SECTOR job GROWTH is not a failure. Losing 750,000 a month like Bush and his rubber stamp Ryan congress did is...why can't YOU admit that?

Great start with Mitt introducing Ryan and the next President of the United States?? Then the media catching Ryan who locked himself out of his own house.

Frick and Frack, lots of good SNL material coming and I can't wait......

I'm a Republican and was going to vote Romney until this.... Ryan is a sell out.... it takes him far right, puts the future of Medicare in corporate hands, how will seniors survive with private insurance raising rates with impunity every year...

I can't believe I'm gonna do it, but it's gonna be Obama

Romney pulled a Palin.....

OBXRon -- Agreed. Except now Teapublicans are embracing Old Europe austerity to reduce deficits. Yep, instead of the old tax-and-spend Republican Party, now it's the spend, spend, spend on more tax cuts for the rich and defense spending, and get rid of Medicare to do it.

Kumar-889209 -- Hahaha, what are you implying, that Democrats should just stay home? And then you end your post promoting Shyster & Miser -- I suggest you write-in the name of someone you could actually for for. Hopefully Ron Paul supporters, or Palin supporters will do that. We love our candidates - Obama/Biden - 2012!

I'm willing to admit that Congress is a total failure . . . where is all the Jobs, Jobs, Jobs legislation we were promised in 2010?

"where is all the Jobs, Jobs, Jobs legislation we were promised in 2010?"

Somewhere in Boehner's mattress.

I am sure Romney will release his tax records as soon as Obama, who spent millions blocking their release, will show his college transcripts and financial aid applications. Fair I think...

I am curious. How does one spend even a single dollar in BLOCKING the release of something?

Liberals don't go around saying "Romney has spent MILLIONS blocking the release of his tax returns." He hasn't.

My feeling is that you are getting carried away in your sloganeering. It sounds great "Obama spent BILLIONS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS blocking the release of his kindergarten transcripts." But it doesn't make any sense.

@Fiesty, you made the claim that Obama raised that, the onus is on you... but libs lie, so I do not expect anything back.

so I do not expect anything back.

Why am I not suprised you can't walk the walk! lmfao!

Typical!

I'm not exactly sure why the GOP/TP see it as economically beneficial to axe senior healthcare, and drive these people into living off the streets when they can't afford insurance and loose all tangible assets with their first illness. I guess the GOP/TP idea is that if they die sooner, they will be cheaper. Well on that premise, if they die sooner, they will stop spending. Duh, it takes spending to keep the economy moving. Perhaps the other idea is that by forcing them to live in the streets, government wins because they are no longer caring for them. Well folks, the cost to society by having mass numbers of people living on the streets is far more costly than having members of society supporting themselves. People living off the streets do not contribute to the economy. In fact, the government loses revenue when the rich contribute to the charities to support the homeless, and in turn, write those contributions off their taxes.

My vote is keep seniors self-sufficient with adequate Medicare/Social Security and contributing to the economy vs. throwing them out on their asses and in turn, creating a drag on the economy.

OBX,

Not sure if you are aware, but Bush/Cheney are not running this time around.

However, Obama's record is one of failure. Unemployment over 8% for his term, deficit exploding, lost respect around the world (Putin in effect laughed in his face), dishonesty and no transparency from him and his adminstration (Fast and Furious, Obamacare, etc....), Gitmo not closed and not even discussed anymore etc.

I mean, what part of broken promises don't you see here. Let's face it. The POTUS is a fraud and lied to the American people. Of course, this is somewhat of a natural consequence for our democracy voting in a career Community Organizer.

Time for a change. Time to stop the juvenile demonizing of "the wealthy" (Obama's logic=people who are financially successful must be evil and surely are not paying their fair share). LOLOLOLO. So very childish.

Time to bring in the adults to the Oval Office.

TruePatriot-445959

Ther is no "FORMAL" requirement as far as I know but there is also no requirement for us to vote for him. If he wants our vote, he has to release his returns, otherwise it's Obama 2012

it was anyway! Ha HA !

“Just yesterday morning, my opponent chose his running mate

and we couldn't be happier, Mr. President. Relax and get ready for four more. Hopefully, we can get the stall rats out of the HOR and really get down to business of rebuilding this economy.

Never wanted to be middle-class Mr Obama..... looking forward to moving on up as soon as Romeny/Ryan get to the White House & we send you & Michelle packing back to Chicago.... Hope you didn't piss-off Rahm too much, bet his paybacks are a bit$$.........

Obama is still running against Bush. He blames everyone for everything. Liberals - tell me one thing that Obama has said was his fault. He points fingers and blames everyone. Man-up and admit you have made mistakes!

Not sure if you are aware, but Bush/Cheney are not running this time around.

Sorry Vicky!

If you liked "W" and the "Dick" you're gonna ♥ Herman & Eddie Munster who are running on nothing more than retreads of the Bush administration!

Apologies that the truth stings! ☺

Silly "teabaggers," still pretending that eight years of Cheney/Bush did not send the country into the crapper!

1776

You don't know your economic history too well

1922 We were recovering from the Woodrow Wilson Depression.

1920 Unemployment rose from 4.9% to 9.5%

1921 was spending cuts - unemployment dropped oto 7.9%

1922 was spending cuts and tax cuts - unemployment dropped to 6.5%

1923 was spending cuts and tax cuts - unemployment dropps to 4.9%

I think we should be at 1922 Right now in the economy, but we seem stuck at worse than 1921 yet.

Not sure if you are aware, but Bush/Cheney are not running this time around.

You sure of that? Because it sure sounds like R&R want to return to those same exact policies that sunk this economy in the first place. Are you too stupid to see that, or is your hate of the President that bad that you would vote for anyone just to not have to admit this man has done a good job? All of that stuff you've listed is rubbish and repeated over and over on Fox Noise. I don't even watch that reichwing propoganda pooping machine and I know them. You guys are brainwashed and unable to think for yourselves. Do you need someone to cut your food before you eat it? Come up with something original.

victorkingdom -- Oh but it is a clear choice between Reaganomics, or what Bush Sr. called supply-side "voodoo economics," the same failed GOP/Bush-era policies of "tickle-down" tax cuts for the rich (who are NOT job creators -- demand from the middle class creates jobs), deregulation that resulted in the Wall Street meltdown that nearly tanked the global economy, along with deficit spending on neocon war-profiteering...

WTF do you think Shyster & Miser are all about?! Except now it would be on steroids.

Danno the man -- Good-un. Romney can't pass GO, he must come clean with his tax returns or forgetaboutit, he isn't getting our votes. We aren't going to just "trust him on that." But you're right, we weren't going to vote for him anyway!

why do you people care about tax returns were are obama's no one has ever seen obama's

Feisty, Tony and True,

I repeat, Bush and Cheney are not running for office this time around.

Time for the adults to take over from the Community Organizer.

Tony, I do like that the things I listed are "rubbish". Those are the facts. The numbers as reported by the government. This is fundamentally Obama/Bidens problem: They want virtually zero accountability.

BTW, when is Obama going to shut Gitmo. He could have easily done it in his first two years of office when he controlled all of Washington (he still would have been 1 year late from his committment). Can you please tell me when that is going to happen? I suspect he is supporting torture down there.

Exactly, and here is another of obama's lying agenda, and while it did not happen on his watch if he had not changed the standing policy on homosexuals in the military this woman would be discharged from the Army. She is a liar and a cheat because back when she joined the Army homosexuals were not allowed in the military so what that means is she either lied to get in or they have to retract their statement that homosexuals are born that way and she became a homosexuals at a later time. If she lied then every thing she has done is suspect because she is not trust worthy.

Brig. Gen Tammy S. Smith is quite accomplished. The 49-year-old has been serving in the U.S. Army for the past 26 years and, on Friday, she became a general. But, Smith is making headlines for a reason that supersedes her professional abilities. At her pinning ceremony last week, she became the first openly-gay general to serve in the Army — and the overall military's — ranks.

This development comes after the military dropped its "don't ask, don't tell" policy last year. During a ceremony on Friday, Smith's wife, activist Tracey Hepner, pinned on her star, publicly acknowledging Smith's sexuality and open devotion to another female. In a press release put out by the Defense Department, Smith said that "participating with family in traditional ceremonies such as the promotion is both common and expected of a leader."

I repeat she is a liar and a cheat and needs to be discharged immedialty.

this country will be moving forward come nov when the white house gets a good cleaning. it doesnt matter who romney chose but ryan is a good pick!

We the corporations its called practing what you preach. When you spend millions to keep records of any kind sealed you would be a hypocrite demanding anybody else release any records. Only very very navie voters will not be able to see the double standard. What is Obama hiding that he has to spend millions to hide? Actualy I have been talking to Harry Reids source and they said it is very likely that Obama recieved foreign aid to go to college. That my friend swould be fraud because Obama is not a foreignor.

When you spend millions to keep records of any kind sealed

Again, reputable source please, because I just can't take YOUR word for it!

*wink wink*

We the corporations its called practing what you preach.

Exactly. So when you claim someone is hiding something, then don't hold Mitt to the same standard, YOU are NOT practicing what you preach.

Obama has released like 10 years of taxes and Mitt hasn't even released 1 full year (state too)...so why aren't you mad at Mitt for hiding?

How about Obama's school records? Why does he hide them?

When Obama releases his college records and shows us he didnt comitt fraud by receiving foreign aid then maybe Mitt will release some extra tax records that by the way he is not required by law to do. You cant have your cake and eat it to. Fiesty you must be living under a rock if youy didnt know Obama hasnt released hie college records. Im suprised you are that unimformed. Even my 5 year old daughter knew that.

Who says Obama is hiding them? There is no possible reason to disclose them.

Why has Obama held true to most of the Bush-era legislations? The only thing he can claim as his is ObamaCare..... and tha was back-door, behind the scenes, arm-bending, BRIBERY & extortion at it's best.................

Wrong. Mitt released 2 years of returns as required by law.

Why was thread #1 deleted? Enough of this crap already.

Law isnt perfect.

Gee, Drew, why does Romney hide his?

It is rumored that Obama got foreign aid to go to college. So its out there that he was involved in fraud. In order to Be President you cant receive foreign aid. That would mean you were not born here and we know he was born in Hawaii so he shouldnt have recieved foreign aid.

High Rolla, I hope for your 5 year old daughters sake she can spell better than you, sheesh.

Wrong. Mitt released 2 years of returns as required by law.

NO HE HASN'T.

How do you guys expect us to take you seriously when you don't even know basic facts about your candidate?

He released 1 year of Federal returns, no state because that might prove he committed voter fraud by voting in 2010 from his sons basement?

And 1 ESTIMATE for 2011, its even on his own website as an estimate...fail!

Eric I cant see good and my keyboard is blank all the letters are gone so bare with me on the spelling and typing.

It comes upon a person of sound mind and judgment to decide the course of action for a nation. This race is not about Mr. Obama or Mr. Romney, but a way in which the future will be governed. Do we want a nation in which the Rich have everything and the ever growing poor and decreasing middle class have nothing? Or do we want a nation i which everyone has a chance to be all they can be? In my mind, there is no competition, only the course Mr. Obama has set before us. I only ask that the House give up on their bigotry and start doing what is right.

GOP CRIME FACTORING are you admitting that Harry Reid is grasping for straws? I mean that is exactly what he is doing right?

tonybeeerm -- I know, it's one thing to collapse, but another to delete. Maybe too many conspiracy theorists who can't post at FAUX Nation? Uh oh, than this section is going down too -- Wow, look at JH above, just wow.

JH,

"Ryan will wipe the floor with Biden and Obama."

On the contrary, I think it is Obama who is going to have a field day with Ryan. I think this is what Obama was hoping for all along. Just watch the debates!

I always thought history showed that WWll got us out of the mess we were in. Guess its the eye of the beholder on that one.

Government spending on WWII helped a lot, that's true. Government spending, acted as a stimulus. It was definitely not the result of reducing deficits by cutting spending and cutting taxes, as Republicans would have us do.

Smokie,

"I also see that you have a complete misunderstanding of what the Obama-Biden team have not done. They have not helped the unemployment problem we have."

Do you mean the unemployment problem the Republicans created? It seems to me this problem began under the Bush Administration in 2007.

It is rumored that Obama got foreign aid.......

That is part of the problem with you GOPers. You accept "rumors" as truth.

And BTW the economy began an upswing a full 2 years BEFORE WWII commenced. Therefore, FDR's policies got us out of the first Republican Great Depression,....and NOT WWII.

JH,

"You memory is failing you. It might seem to you that the problem began in 2007 but it actually started in 2008."

Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932012_global_recession

2007, as I said. I think it is your memory that is failing. And it was due to the Republican's policy of deregulation that allowed the greedy fools on Wall Street to get carried away with themselves.

When do you suppose it will dawn on these Brainiac republicans on this board that when they make note of the lousy state of the economy is they are just insulting themselves?

THIS IS A REPUBLICAN ECONOMY!!

Bush started this mess,.....remember? Remember how things were when Obama first sat down in the White House? Dismal. Been getting slowly better since then.

Obama did not cause this economy, but he is in charge of fixing it.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

To prevent a repeal of the 20th century.

GOPisextinct

We know that Obama is in charge of fixing the economy. He has been for a while now. When is he going to start? After the election? NO because he is going to lose. But it would be interesting IF he won. He could tell us all about the problem that he inherited from the last 4 years.

Mickey - I never go to wikipedia. I don't think it is a good source for facts. The major break down started well after the dems took control of Congress. Look at the unemployment numbers in late 2006 them look at the numbers in late 2008. I know Obama had nothing to do with them but the dems did.

Reading all the above comments, no wonder I spent the weekend in ICU not being able to breathe. All the negativity just sucks all the positive pink phlamingo phine pheelings out of the world making it a darker, sadder world.

Paul Ryan, in his interview with CBS News' Bob Schieffer, said he gave the campaign "several" years of tax returns, something Tim Pawlenty also indicated he did, during the vetting process.

But Ryan said he will release what Romney has released, which is two:

BOB SCHIEFFER: How many years of-- tax returns did you-- turn over to the campaign?

PAUL RYAN: Well, it-- it was a very exhaustive-- vetting process. It's a confidential (UNINTEL) vetting process, so there were several years. But I'm going to release the-- the same amount of years that Governor Romney has. But I got to tell you, Bob--

BOB SCHIEFFER: And how many was that?

PAUL RYAN: He's-- two. He's-- I'm going to be releasing two, which is what he's releasing.

source: http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/08/ryan-will-release-two-years-of-taxes-131892.html

That's a helluva note. Mitt asks for and gets multiple years of tax returns from his VP job applicants, but won't even release two full years of his own to the American people. The same people that he's interviewing for a job with. Thank God, there won't be an opening for the position Mitt's applying for until 2016. A little tip for you Mitt, the next time you apply for the job ( and hopefully there won't be a next time-we already have a lady who's already with the company and is much more experienced and qualified than you) complete your paperwork before the interview and bring it with you. All of it, not just part.

JH,

"We know that Obama is in charge of fixing the economy."

No. That is wrong. The president is not in charge of fixing the economy. It is up to the economy to fix itself. The president is the Chief Executive of the United States; he is not the Chief Executive of the economy or of a corporation. We live in a free market economy; not in a communist country in which the state controls the economy. You, like many people, appear to be confused on that point. And WikiPedia may not be the best source for facts, but unless you have a source that contradicts it, you should accept it.

JH,

Just can't resist since your feeble attempt to make Vice President Biden look bad. My question is simple, how can you poke fun at him when your own guy, Mr. Romney, announced his VP selection as the next POTUS. Do you think that is smart enough to debate anybody? I know Mr. Romney is prone to making gaffes, but...really! Or maybe he really doesn't think "he deserves it." Too funny.

JH...thank you for giving me a preface for a further meander in history. I'm amazed at how conveniently many of the contributors are still playing the blame game with 'W'.

I would like for people to look up Glass-Steagall, and realize that the repeal of it took place on Slick Willy's watch. That is a major factor in the slide which put us in our present financial situation. Toss in the lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which were entities that should have been under the scrutiny of Barney Frank and there is nothing that 'W' is accountable for. Should one dig deeper in an effort to understand the situation GW Bush warned the committee which included Barney that there was trouble on the horizon and they needed to get Fannie and Freddie's affairs in order.

You all realize that the talk of Paul Ryan will be a week long thing then the topic will be like yesterday's dead fish - not of any relevance until the debates. So enjoy you jollies about the choice for the next week. In 2 weeks no one will care.

Flamingos Forever

Michael1969: Without a strong government to support your rights, sweetie, the next bully comes along--whump!--you're on your ass and so are your little rights.

The Patriot Act passed during Bush2's illegal war based on lies eradicated a good number of your rights. Where were you then, eh?

Your rights are going the way of the dodo, thanks to the Corporate Agenda that now holds our government in thrall.

Follow the money: Dirty EnergyMoney.com

He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

Since this is your new angle, does this mean you RWR's have finally accepted the fact that our President is a natural born citizen? At least it's a new line of hogwash. The birther crap was really getting old after four years.

What? You mean Hawaii isn't a foreign country? Next thing you'll tell me is that Alaska isn't one too. And Mexico is a part of the US?

Lies, lies and more lies from the GOP lie factory. That's all you can do well,make up stuff. Certainly Repugs presided over the Great Depression and also created the current Great Recession that we are slowly coming out of, thanks to Obama and no thanks to the Grand Obstructionist Party, a dinosaur that ought to be put out of its misery. Out of date, ought to be extinct. It is certainly detriorated from when it was a true conservative party of people who actually belived in those principles. Now it just has liars, thieves and hypocrites. Welcome to the 21st Century and Victory for Obama/Biden in 2012, and Hillary Clinton in 2016.

How about this: If someone posts something really stupid, like, "FIRST COMMENT" at the first comment, that post should be deleted.

Whatever it is, make of it what you will, it is very likely that it is advertising, of no value ("FIRST COMMENT!") or really stupid, like "Alfred E. Newman for President!" Why should we waste our time and computer bandwidth on stuff that has absolutely no value? Keep your blood pressure down, sheesh.

yosolo

I know what you are trying to do, but you don't understand the people you are dealing with.

What I will tell you is that Obama's roommate at Harvard is alive, and refuses to say anything about Obama. No, I don't know the man personally, honestly I'm smart enough to go no further. That should be enough for you to stop pursuing this angle and pursue solely on the basis of actual provable facts of performance.

yosolo,

You really need to get up to speed. This is 2012.

the chain email that is part of the Blaze article has been around since 2008. And it is an urban legend, no basis in fact.

You really need a better spam detector on your computer.

Now if you have anything to contribute to the discussion about your new VP pick, feel free to post.

We know that Obama is in charge of fixing the economy. He has been for a while now. When is he going to start?

Ans: When the GOP stops blocking and filibustering his remedies. BTW, I didn't hear any denial in there.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

You can't fake your way to President of the Harvard Law Review sweetcakes.

Just can't. Your attempt at "logic" doesn't fit here. It just don't pass the smell test.

It'd be like a 110-lb guy trying to fake being a Sumo wrestler. You'd know the guy was faking it.

Your email is idiot bait that was waiting for a dupe like you to swallow it.

Do we want a nation in which the Rich have everything and the ever growing poor and decreasing middle class have nothing? Or do we want a nation i which everyone has a chance to be all they can be? In my mind, there is no competition, only the course Mr. Obama has set before us. I only ask that the House give up on their bigotry and start doing what is right.

Brenda

Obamas policies are hurting the poor and making the middle class poorer.

Obama is devaluing our currency printing more money than we can, poor people have less power of purchase it means they buy less with the same welfare check. Middle class have no money for savings because they need more money for food, housing, clothes, transportation, cost of College tuition skyrocket.

Obama is hurting all of us.

Obama one term president , the Economist in Chief is a failure.

GOPisextinct

Ans: When the GOP stops blocking and filibustering his remedies. BTW, I didn't hear any denial in there

Obama is blocking himself with radical-left leaning policies with no chance to dialog. Obamacare also pass only with coercive actions against to their own Congress members.

BARRACK OBAMA ...FAILED PRESIDENCY

Only if you are bin Laden's Mom,............or Quaddafi's Mom for that matter.

Barack Obama,....Scourge of Tyrants!!!

Never send a republican to do a man's work. They're only good at stealing other people's pension money.

Gov. Romney is an inarticulate spokesman for Paul Ryan's vision

Obama is blocking himself

What are you 4 effin' years old??!!

Top 5 Worst Things About Paul Ryan's Record

1. Paul Ryan authored budget proposals that would end Medicare as we know it. His budget proposal would repeal health care reform, sticking seniors with the bill and leaving their health care at risk. This is especially problematic for women, who make up fifty-six percent of Medicare beneficiaries.

2. Paul Ryan’s budget plan would have cut SNAP grants by 18%. SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) grants, also known as food stamps, has kept 3.9 million Americans (equivalent to the entire population of Oregon), including 1.7 million children, out of poverty, and allowed them to keep their families from going hungry. This plan also would have drastically cut jobs, leaving 174,000 people out of work.

3. Paul Ryan is bad for women. He voted for a bill that would have effectively banned abortion coverage by insurers who received federal or taxpayer funding. This bill, which Ryan favored, would have allowed anyone involved to refuse to perform an abortion for any reason, even if the life of the woman needing the abortion was in danger.

4. Paul Ryan is extremely anti-choice. Paul Ryan voted for the Protect Life Act, which grants hospitals far-reaching powers to deny women abortion care, without any exception for emergency situations. US law currently requires hospitals receiving federal funds to provide emergency care to anyone in need up to the point at which they can be stabilized or transferred, if the original hospital is incapable of providing the care they need. "The misnamed Protect Life Act is about allowing women to die if they need an emergency abortion," said Meghan Rhoad, women’s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. "It is a vicious attack on women’s rights and on the most basic right to life.’”

5. Paul Ryan wants to defund Planned Parenthood. This ideological attack would only result in more women losing access to necessary and basic health care. One in five American women have used Planned Parenthood health services.

There you have it. While MITT the TWIT parades Paul Ryan around as his pick to be first in the line of succession to the presidency, you now have the facts. Paul Ryan has a long history of voting against affordable health care and women’s health. His legislative priorities leave millions of people at risk of losing their health care and in medical and financial danger. Combined with Mitt Romney’s bad policies, it’s clear: the Romney/Ryan ticket is bad for women and families.

STOP THE REPUBLICAIN WAR ON WOMEN!

Wrong. Mitt released 2 years of returns as required by law.

Wrong on two accounts: Romney has only issued one partial tax return (several forms missing), and there is no legal requirement to release tax forms. Romney could, legally, refuse to release any tax forms - but that won't help with suspicions about his business dealings. Romney can refuse, and we can suspect he's hiding a lot of bad news.

I would like for people to look up Glass-Steagall, and realize that the repeal of it took place on Slick Willy's watch. That is a major factor in the slide which put us in our present financial situation.

Who controlled Congress when the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act that repealed Glass-Steagall was passed? Republicans. Gramm, Leach, and Bliley were all Republicans. Glass and Steagall were both Democrats. Now in hindsight, it was a mistake for Clinton to have signed Gramm-Leach-Bliley, but it was an honest effort at bipartisanship, and had Clinton vetoed it, his veto might have been overturned. So most of the credit for Glass-Steigall and the decades of banking stability it created goes to Democrats, and most of the blame for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley repeal and the resulting banking crisis goes to Republicans.

From Wikipedia:

During debate in the House of Representatives, Rep. John Dingell (Democrat of Michigan) argued that the bill would result in banks becoming "too big to fail." Dingell further argued that this would necessarily result in a bailout by the Federal Government

Somebody saw it coming...

Mickey-1983943

If Mr. President Obama is not in charge of the economics of the country, how in the world did he arrange for all of the bankrupt solar companies to get so many millions or billions in funding?

GOPsextinc

THIS IS A REPUBLICAN ECONOMY!!

Deby Waserman Shults desagree with you

Democrats are ready to take responsibility for the state of the economy and they deserve credit for putting it on the right track, the party’s chairwoman, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, said "We own the economy".

Democrats own the failure of Obamanomic and the wrong track of our economy.

Don't forget your pull-ups before go to bed.

Obama was ready to really "bash" Paul Ryan when the crowd disapproved of his remarks and booed him which prompted him to immediately change his remarks to praise for the future VP of the USA. Obama has nothing to offer for his reelection and it's becoming more and more evident each day. We will take America back come November.

Romney/Ryan 2012

Obama was ready to really "bash" Paul Ryan when the crowd disapproved of his remarks and booed him which prompted him to immediately change his remarks to praise for the future VP of the USA.

Are you delusional? You can't seriously believe that Rafalca crap you just wrote.

Say no to BAIN/PAIN 2012!

The kids of America are rejoicing! Don't let them down voters!

Romney / Ryan 2012!!!!

Did you actually read the article? "The crowd started to boo at the first mention of Ryan but Obama urged them to hold their jeers". That's what the article said.

kkwilson

Obama was ready to really "bash" Paul Ryan when the crowd disapproved of his remarks and booed him which prompted him to immediately change his remarks to praise for the future VP of the USA. Obama has nothing to offer for his reelection and it's becoming more and more evident each day. We will take America back come November.

Romney/Ryan 2012

Not sure what speach you listened to, but in a reality i live in and call earth, there was no such booing going on. Dude, stop publisizing bullsht.

We will take America back come November.

From whom will who take America back, exactly? Are you implying that Obama is not an American, or that those who support him are not American?

Democrats are ready to take responsibility

Democrats,.....the party of personal responsibility.

Come on out, everyone who believes in America and get rid of every single Republican from the White House on down to the dog catcher. Take America back from the Greedyold b uffoons and their chosen flack, the Greedy Old Party.

That's not a dog catcher, that's a people catcher! He catches those who break the law, harm those poor creatures and make so many problems for neighbors.Sort of like those who blame the other party for all our nation's problems and don't accept any responsibilities for what they've contributed themselves. Can we check to see how many in each party fail to show up to vote so often? If we did that with our jobs we would be fired!Both parties are like the left and right hands of the human body, they need to work together and in doing so they can created, lift and build anything.It's the head which gives directions and the body which moves things along.Too much bickering means nothing gets accomplished.Now if one could just find a noble heart with courgae, integrity and honesty.Boy imagine what our country could accomplish!

Dang, with my spelling I'm the perfect example of two hands not working together!

Carl: Nope. You got it all wrong. Try again. And while you're trying, please do take note that he could be superman, batman, the hulk, spiderman, Thor, Ironman and Capt. America all rolled into one and still not accomplish his goals as long as congress stands united against him. Ever heard of the filibuster? Have any idea of the record number of times it's been employed by REPs in the Senate to prevent DEMs and our fed gov't from accomplishing anything in the past two years?

Obama simply has no class if all he can do is attack his opponent with negative ads because he has no record of accomplishment to run on himself. Ryan on the other hand has a plan to fix this country. What better way to deflect your failures than to attack your opponents non-stop. I personally want a more 'presidential' person as my president in the White House. Someone who sticks with the issues and isn't bashing others because that's all he has going for himself and is more like a petulant child who is stomping his foot because he isn't getting his way.

Make sure you see the movie 2016 Obama's America. It this movie doesn't scare the c--p out of you I don't know what will.

Romney/Ryan 2012

No question that Obama's abilities to speak and frame issues are the best I've ever seen. However, the accuracy of his comments are the worst I have even seen. If this campaign is based on the presidents messaging, then the presidents wins. If it is based on the peoples understanding of the real issues, then he losses. I fear we have too many dumb people.

WAy to go georgie937 you bought the republican side of the story hook line and sinker. that is ignorance at it's best.

Wow, trickle down fairy dust, was that the speech Obama gave to his half empty campaign stop in Chicago? Hype and blame doesn't seem to be resonating this time around. Maybe Obama would be drawing bigger crowds in his home state if he had actually done something over the past 3.5 years, or had even offered some real solutions to the nations problems. I guess 3.5 years of playing the same blame game has maybe gotten a tad boring to people.

The president called Ryan “an articulate spokesman for Governor Romney’s vision. But it’s a vision that I fundamentally disagree with.”

Not just Obama finds fault with this 'vision.' This 'vision' also conflicts with the facts. It has been tried at least twice in the last thirty years, and it has failed miserably both times. Last time it almost scuttled the ship. Now Romneycare wants to try it again? Tired and failed policies have no place in today's world.

So Obama can blame them for doing nothing yet. He is trying to guess what they will do. I guess he can't stand on his own record and tell us what he did, wouldn't win on that would you Mr. President. I gave you mandatory Health Insurance with a tax penalty if you don't get it and I ordered someone killed, I'll give him the last one. I also blame everybody else for what is wrong with this Country, and I helped the Attorney General cover up sending guns across the border that get people here killed, while I let illegal immigrants stay in this Country illegally. I was born in this Country and I pay my taxes at least every two years which is all I have to show you, but I want the other guy to show you more.

Eww, who in their right mind would want Sarah Palin? She's mentally retarded and after all those kids it's gotta be like tossing a hotdog down a hallway!

A perfect match for Newt then, except that he would need to change religions again. Sarah is not Catholic.

VirginiaDemocrat78, that is the finest description I have ever heard about palin. An, I gotta use the hotdog down the hallway thing sometime. If it wasn't for the old perverted white teaparty bigots wanting to screw her, she would still be in Wasila.

#8.1 not tasteful.

#8.3 I have worked construction for most of my life, and that hotdog-hallway comment (joke) is decades old. And in bad taste. Just letting you know.

not only are you right coin, but palin was GOVERNOR of alaska. something all these libs fail to understand what an accomplishment that is.

not to mention her going against the oil companies and winning for the people of alaska.

but hey, they call them ignorant for a reason. they fail to find out things for themselves.... ya know, like how paul ryans plan will save america.

I agree wholeheartedly with you . . . there is a lot of hot air and not a whole lot of substance for the most part . . .

let the honest debate begin.

Yes, lets. And we can only hope that Romney's handlers have rapped his knuckles, and hard, to avoid the temptation of making a $10k bet every time he loses a point. That just isn't pretty.

I agree that the honest debate should begin. Since the issue of taxes seems tied to everything (what should the rates be? To what extent can increased revenues reduce the deficit?, etc.), it seems that the first step in an honest debate is for Mitt Romney to release 10 years of his tax returns. How else can we know where he stands on these issues?

Isn't it common sense to judge a man by what he does, not what he says?

"Isn't it common sense to judge a man by what he does, not what he says?"

Makes a lot of sense to me, even republicans booed Romney at the republican debates when he said he would not release his taxes. He mat very well be within the letter if the law, but it is obvious that he feels that disclosing his own personal taxes would be politically damaging to him, if he thought they would help him he would have released the long ago. Not releasing them is damaging him considerably, because of what you said about common sense and judging somebody by their actions, when somebody basically "takes the fifth" as Romney has then common sense tells you he is guilty. In the end common sense tells me he feels showing his taxes would be political suicide, so he will "take the fifth" and suffer the political damage of not showing his taxes. This alone will disqualify him with a lot of independents as while it is not required by law showing your taxes has been something the American people have grown accustomed to, and now expect of their candidates. It's pretty phony isn't it, the guy who wants to restructure your taxes but cannot disclose his own.

"It's pretty phony isn't it, the guy who wants to restructure your taxes but cannot disclose his own."

Thank you. That's what I was trying to say, but I think you did it better than I did.

Just something I pulled out of the circular file...

I have been told (by somebody that had it from somebody else) that Annonomous hacked into somewhere and found Romneys tax records, put them up on the internet and then they disappeared after a few minutes... Then the next day, Wikileaks crashed with a DOS attack that kept them down for 3 days. Oh, the taxes paid were on the order of .16% (That is a decimal point in front, not a mis-type)

I will not make any claim for the accuracy of this report or the honesty of the report if it did happen, but, even the suggestion that it is true should tell Romney that he has to eliminate the suspicion.

Honest debate huh? You think "Elliot Ness" should have debated "Al Capone"? Romney's gonna fix our tax rates and code? The son-of-a-bitch won't even tell us anything about His, let alone show His returns to us. He's teamed himself up with a "weasel" who has never authored and passed any significant legislation after serving 12 or 13 years in Congress. Spends His time trying to rob and destroy old people. What a sorry son-of-a-bitch! Both these bastards need to be in jail! Honest, my money making ass!

Well there you have it, Romney is the guy who claims to be a powerhouse of an American businessman, but does not want to disclose his business dealings. The guy who claims he knows how to invest in America, but will not disclose his investments, the guy who wants to restructure the tax code, but will not disclose his taxes.

If Romney was my teenage kid I would not give him the keys to my car, with his phony answers to important questions much less the keys to the White house.

I think we all know where this ends up - Romney paid somewhere between less than zero and 13.9% taxes in the undisclosed years. Romney wants to cut taxes on wealthy and raise taxes on everyone else. The part that really makes no sense is Romney advocates cuts for himself because HE is a job creator. With Romney's history of paying less than zero in taxes, it begs the question as to how many jobs did Romney create. 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000 1,000,000, or is that number 3.

Cutting taxes on the Romney's of the world does not create jobs. His campaign promises make no sense, and releasing his tax returns will only prove how wrong he is, or to put it more succinctly, prove he is lying. Thus, he will never release them. But I'm sure he is having a thigh slapping laugh over how gullible the tea party is as they buy his lies hook, line, and sinker.

@RedDevPS#10.9: I think Romney's lies and contradictions have great appeal to the "tea baggers". Additionally, his inability to speak with sophomoric coherency is another plus for that pack of crack pots. If there are ever any revelations of His true felonious business shenanigans the whole crowd will go into a collective orgasmic spasm. Regards

I said before on one of my other posts that David Corn article in Mother Jones News will give the Stericycle article, legs during the Republican convention week. Willard will loose the anti-abortion vote in the South, and crash and burn.

Romney Invested in Medical-Waste Firm That Disposed of Aborted Fetuses, Government Documents Show

And these documents challenge Romney's claim that he left Bain Capital in early 1999.

—By David Corn

| Mon Jul. 2, 2012
Earlier this year, Mitt Romney nearly landed in a politically perilous controversy when the Huffington Postreported that in 1999 the GOP presidential candidate had been part of an investment group that invested $75 million in Stericycle, a medical-waste disposal firm that has been attacked by anti-abortion groups for disposing aborted fetuses collected from family planning clinics.

There's more to it in the form of dates of when he was sole owner of of the firm.There was also safety violations that exposed workers to TB and other dangerous diseases,again with Romney's name in play. Owner of Stericycle and Bain. Willards epitaph on his grave marker.After all, "Corporations are people".

The facts are simple, Obama wants to raise taxes on everyone. First he wants the Bush era tax cuts to expire on the top wage earners the end of this year. Obama feels class warfare is a good campaign strategy. But his middle class tax cut extension is only for one year, and then it is a tax increase on everyone. Totally politically motivated. Funny how Obama and his supporters claim Romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class when no plan is on the table to prove that claim. But Obama is going to raise taxes on the middle class, just not for a year. Same result regardless, Obama is raising taxes on everyone if given a second term.

Apparently, you have not been listening to the hate rhetoric from the DMC in so many ads! If Obama feels threatened, he goes to work to either ignore you and get you ignored or tries his best to ruin you.

Rick

Don't you remember when Bush made the sunset rule for tax breaks to expire in 2010? That's a fact you seemed to overlook. Maybe Obama's giving the GOP a taste of what will happen if they get in office with a deficit. Now, all of a sudden it's Obama's fault and they want a chance to fix it.

Ryan sealed Willard's fate when he said that Obama had a Democratic Congress for the first two years and did nothing, and now it's worse. From who? The newly elected Party of fools that replaced the Democrats and got paid to do absolutely nothing for the last two years,that's who. Ryan was the ringleader. Bye, Willard.

Corporate America is America. America is Walmart, ExxonMobil, Chevron, Microsoft, FannieMae, Conoco, General Electric, General Motors, Bank of America, Bershire Hathaway, and Ford Motor. That's who we are.

Correction, Big AL: "That's who many of us have become".

I hope they never learn.

And it's not like the teabaggers weren't going to vote for Romney anyway. If anything, all Ryan does is piss of the elderly.

But the VP choice makes sense because Ryan is probably the one and only nominee who could make Romney look compassionate and charismatic in comparison, but I'm not sure that having a tag-team of socially awkward rich clueless white guys is a winning team.

On the other hand it presents a conundrum for Catholic bishops......do they vote for the guy whose budget they've already condemned as "un-Christian", or are they forced to vote for the guy who thinks all Americans should have the same legal rights and that women should have access to health care?

The choice is clear and stark- let the honest debate begin.

Celtic -

Beware of what you wish for. When the "honest" debate begins, NitMitt and his little half pint, Eddie, are going to get the ass-kicking of their lives. Its not even going to be close......

Obama/Biden 2012 (In a landslide)

Time will tell. Again with the name calling jeez should I jump in the mud with you and let loose with the name calling of Biden and Obama?

I was getting worried and almost went into mourning for the Democrat chances this winter. Today, I broke out the Chivas and toasted the Republicans for finding a most elaborate way to flush themselves out of the White House race.

Eh, the Republican voters themselves gave this election to Obama by nominating Romney.

And Romney further insured it be selecting Ryan.

Hey Geogerie,

Typical Tea/Party mentality, knows who belongs to what party because they say so. Oooooops...caught in the act, sorry...NOT!

Obama's Healthcare is going to do more destruction to seniors than anything Ryan is proposing.

Please, enlighten us as to how Obama's healthcare is going to negatively affect seniors. Provide some facts. I know it is difficult for a Republican/Tea Partier to provide facts regarding their statements as those facts are generally fiction, but give it a try, please.

Why dont you do some research into it yourself and see how Obama is lying to us. Go to US.GOV. and call up the bill in full text. That is if your smart enough to read.

The economy is NOT in the toilet---the education of our young is "in the toilet"---that is why there are hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs out there because there are not enough competent people to fill them---that is why they are being filled by immigrants from India and elsewhere!!!----Wake up America!!---but lets listen to the GOP and cut funding education!!!

You show me ONE politician who is willing to touch that 3rd rail (Tax Code Reform) and I'll show you a Former politician. None of them has the guts to change the tax code so it does not pick winners and losers.

What a crock of crap -- The few jobs out there actually have titles like "Superman wanted" because these idiot businesses don't want to train, and then they offer poverty-level compensation on top of it all. If they really wanted to attract (and retain) talent, all they have to do is offer good pay and stop with the mythological unicorn expectations.

Heaveto--you might want to consider the amount of money that is wasted annually by the Federal level education department. Education needs to be returned to the states where it started. That way we can at least keep part of our hardearned tax money away from the gigantic money filter that Washington has become.

Bob in KC -- If education was "returned to the states", Florida high-school graduates would not be able to read.

I can just imagine Texas World History...

"In the beginning..."

Coin Fl - If the federal school system is so great please explain to me why Holyoke High School in Holyoke MA has only a 75% graduation rate and in LA CA THAT rate is 49%. All the federal school system did was give bureaucrats jobs and cost the taxpayers more more for a system that has been failing us since it was enacted by Carter in 70. Give it back to the states and let them fix their problems without the federal bureaucrats interference.

I saw it as a gift from Juh-heezus.

I agree. Mitt Romney painted the state of Florida blue yesterday all by himself.

Big Al,

You have that right.

I heard today that Ryan was to go to Florida for a coming out party, but after reading the papers from Florida and other comments, Romney is sending him to the Iowa state fair on Monday.