Romney and Ryan burnish each other’s biographies

Mooresville, N.C. -- On their second full day of campaigning together, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are taking advantage of enormous crowds and an intense media spotlight to help reshape their public images, and to defend one another's personal biographies, with a particular focus on shoring up perceived weaknesses.

Romney, speaking last, praised Ryan's work in Congress, where he has spent the last seven terms representing Wisconsin's First District, but pitched to a crowd of nearly 2,000 that Ryan had gone to Washington at the expense of his career, rather than as a career.

"His career ambition was not to go to Washington. That is not what he wanted to do, but he became concerned about what was happening in the country and wanted to get America back on track and so he put aside the plans he had for his career and said I'm going to go and serve, and he's done that and he's put the country and policies to get America right again ahead of ambition," Romney told the crowd at a NASCAR technical facility here.

But that interpretation of Ryan's career clashes with his actual biography. After graduating with a degree in economics and political science, Ryan moved to Washington to work as a congressional staffer, having already become familiar with campaigns as a volunteer for Ohio congressman John Boehner, now House speaker. Ryan returned the private sector and Wisconsin only briefly, before being elected to Congress at age 28.

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus talks with NBC's David Gregory about Democratic assaults on Paul Ryan's record and how the candidate should best defend himself.

Ryan's career in the public sector has been seen by some political analysts as a potential liability on the Romney ticket, where executive competence and a Washington-outsider persona have long been the hallmarks of the campaign. Yesterday, Ryan suggested his legislative skills could help Romney in governing more than they might hurt the brand in campaigning.

“I believe that my record of getting things done in Congress will be a very helpful complement to Governor Romney’s executive and private sector success outside of Washington,” Ryan said in Norfolk.

Ryan also returned the favor for Romney today, burnishing the GOP nominee's biography, including his tenure as head of the 2002 Olympics, and as Massachusetts governor, an oft-overlooked period for a candidate who prefers to focus on his business experience.

"His country asked him to move to Salt Lake, to turn it around and save the Olympics, he did it and we're so proud of that moment," Ryan said. "The contrast could not be more clear. When he was governor of Massachusetts, he balanced the budget without raising taxes. President Obama has given us budgets with no balance ever and a lot of new taxes."

The setting at NASCAR's technical institute was designed to let another bit of Romney's personal biography and personality peek out: he's a car guy, and the Romney logo-emblazoned stock car behind him was too good to resist.

"You see as a boy my dad made Ramblers, alright? And I only dreamed of cars like that," Romney said, eyeing the car. "To have my name on a car like that it's just too much."

"It must have been tough for my girlfriend to be able to go out on that first date with me in that red rambler we had," Romney said, introducing his wife Ann, who spoke on stage for the first time since the Ryan announcement.

For the Romney campaign, today's event in which thousands of supporters overflowed into parking lots outside, is expected to be the smallest of three major rallies here, and in Wisconsin.

Most of the energy at the event came from seeing the ticket for the first time, but some, surely, came from stock car driver Darrell Waltrip who, pacing the stage in the pre-program, offered advice for Romney seemingly ripped from the Will Ferrell movie "Talladega Nights," and got the crowd cheering uproariously.

"I have a little advice for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan: Boogity Boogity Boogity!"

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Most people are focused on the damage Romney did to himself with Medicare Seniors, but I think there's another aspect that can be even more damaging to his hopes in Florida.

By skipping over Rubio and choosing Ryan, Romney has effectively killed any hopes he had for a large Cuban turnout in the sunshine state.

Ryan might have another problem in Florida: He once opposed the U.S. embargo on Cuba, a stance that's anathema to Miami-Dade's exile community, which is overwhelmingly Republican and had hoped that one of their own, Sen. Marco Rubio, would have been picked as Romney's running mate. The county's elderly Cuban population relies heavily on government assistance, particularly Medicare.

Polls indicate that voters over 50 years old — who comprise more than half the Florida electorate — are wary of changes to the major government-entitlement programs, which pump about $96 billion yearly into the hands of the elderly, the infirm and the hospitals, doctors and other providers who give them care.

Unlike 2010, a Republican-heavy gubernatorial election year, this presidential election is expected to bring out a disproportionately higher number of Democrats, who are courting Hispanic voters like never before.

Rubio appeals to Hispanic voters, especially Cuban-Americans, who comprise a little more than a third of the Florida Hispanic electorate. Polls showed he helped Romney earn higher support among Hispanics than any other potential vice-presidential pick.

A handful of current and former Republican Cuban-American lawmakers, who didn't want to be identified for fear of bucking their own party, told The Miami Herald that Ryan's record on the Cuban embargo might disappoint Cuban-American voters, who comprise 72 percent of the GOP electorate in Miami-Dade, Florida's largest county.

"How could you pass over Marco and pick someone who's anti-embargo?" one asked. "This might snatch defeat from the jaws of victory."

Source: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/11/v-fullstory/2946098/how-paul-ryan-could-be-a-drag.html

I think Mitt just carpet-bombed his own road to 270. It will be interesting to see if Ryan is as accomplished at the flip-flop as his gold medalist running mate. Pauly, you've got some 'splainin' to do. Shake that etch-a-sketch.

  • 46 votes
#1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:47 PM EDT
yosoloDeleted

YOLO You have made your point with identical prior postings. We get it. Your definition of "fair minded" is that the reader is willing to accept your admiration of Ryan's vision.

  • 35 votes
#1.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:12 PM EDT

The Kind of Men who support Flip Flop Romney

1) William Koch, Runs Oxbow Carbon, worth $4 Billion, Donation $2 Million to Romney’s Super PAC,
What He Wants: To pollute for free, Koch’s fortune is tied to some of the nation’s dirtiest industries

2) Harold Simmons (a Swift Boater and corporate raider), Traffics in Toxic Chemicals, worth $9.8 Billion, Donation $800,000 to Romney total giving $16.7 Million, What He Wants: Plans to store radioactive waste in Texas

3) Bob Perry, Owner of Perry Homes, Worth $600 Million, Donation $4 Million to Romney’s Super PAC ,
What He Wants: Tort reform to limit jury awards on homebuilders who do shoddy work

4) Jim Davis, Chairman New Balance Shoes, worth $1.8 Billion, Donation $1 Million to Romney’s Super PAC
What He Wants: A lucrative Defense Contract

5) Richard & Bill Marriott, Heir to Marriott Hotel Fortune, Worth $3.3 Billion, Donation $2 Million
to Restore Our Future, What He Wants: A legal pool of foreign born workers to work in their hotels at slave labor rates Romney served twice on the Marriott Board

7) Edward Conard, Ex Managing Director of Bain Capital, Worth $250 Million, Donation $1 Million to
Restore Our Future, What He Wants: To screw taxpayers like Romney does with half the tax rates of others

8) Frank VanderSloot, CEO Melaeuca, Inc., Worth $1 Billion, Donation $1 Million to Romney’s Super
PAC , What He Wants: Less consumer protections

9) Steven Lund, Vice Chairman Nu Skin Enterprises, worth $31.9 Million, Donation $2 Million to Restore
Our Future, What He Wants: A world safe for false advertising & marketing scams

10) Julian Robertson Jr., Hedge Fund Titan, worth $2.5 Billion, Donation $1.25 Million to Restore Our
Future What He Wants: lower taxes for the Rich

11) John Paulson, Hedge Fund Titan, worth $12.5 Billion, Donation $1 Million to Romney’s Super PAC
What He Wants: No restrictions on Wall St. gambling

12) Paul Singer, Hedge Fund Titan, Worth $1 Billion, Donation $1 Million to Romney’s Super PAC What He
Wants: He Needs Fed backing in his lawsuit to collect $2 Billion from Argentina

13) Robert Mercer, CEO Renaissance Technologies, made $125 Million in 2011 alone, Donation $ 1 Million to Romney’s Super PAC ,What He Wants: To squelch a proposed tax on stock options

14) Kenneth Griffin, CEO Citadel LLC, worth $3 Billion, Donation $1 Million to Restore our Future What He
Wants: To end Volcker Rule on Dodd-Frank Wall St excesses

15) L. Francis Rooney III, CEO Rooney Holdings, worth $40 Million, Donation $1 Million to Restore our
Future What He Wants: More building contract patronage

16) Steven Webster, CEO Avista Capital, worth $4 Billion, Donation $1 Million to Romney’s Super PAC
What He Wants: To Drill baby drill first owner of Deep Sea Horizon the worst environmental disaster in the Nation’s history.

17) Donald Trump, Casino Operator who knows what he wants he is just a delusional birther nut

  • 50 votes
#1.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

yosolo -- STOP spamming. That video is a worthless waste of people's time.

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#1.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

Fair minded= Ryan's budget? Who is it "fair" to?

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#1.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

Well of course Romney and Ryan are propping each other up -- Who else of any importance will do it?

Romney's record is one of lying, including lying about his taxes and residency. Ryan's record is rubber-stamping all the spending during Dubya. Both are rich greedy jagoffs who want "free stuff" for themselves and their crony capitalists.

Destroying programs like Medicare is not necessary, and in fact anyone with half a brain knows trust fund entitlement programs could be strengthened for a very long time in other ways. MORE tax cuts for the rich makes no sense, and more spending on defense doesn't make sense either. Especially considering that Ryan's plan doesn't balance the budget for 23 years.

It's one thing to cut spending to pay down the deficit, and of course anyone with half a brain also knows -- thanks to Republicans during Dubya -- the deficit is so large we need more revenue as well. But Romney/Ryan don't reduce the deficits, rather they propose that seniors take a measly coupon and try to buy health insurance in the private sector. Riiiiight, people in their 50s can't even afford that, how could an 80-year old?

You can bet both Romney and Ryan have used trust fund entitlements -- Ryan when he was young receiving survivor benefits, and the Romneys are probably on Medicare. They are such greedy tight-arse 1%ers it wouldn't be surprising.

Polls show the majority of Americans want the rich to pay more in taxes -- All they have to do is look at the one incomplete 2010 tax return from Romney and see he paid only a 13.9% tax rate, and wonder how he got all that money in his IRA. Things the average American could never do, and it is clear the rich don't pay their fair share.

Yet Ryan's plan is to reduce the highest income tax rate a full 10 points down from 35% to 25% -- really, seriously? And to do it he wants to destroy Medicare. The bishops and "the nuns on the bus" are correct to call Ryan "immoral."

Romeny/Ryan -- Two rich dudes who aren't in it for you.

  • 47 votes
#1.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:39 PM EDT

Ryan's career in the public sector has been seen by some political analysts as a potential liability on the Romney ticket, where executive competence and a Washington-outsider persona have long been the hallmarks of the campaign.

For all of the tea-cons talk about ridding the government of Washington insiders, they now have one of biggest "insiders" of them all on the ticket. Hypocrites, all of them.

  • 43 votes
#1.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:40 PM EDT

yosolo - if you're a fair minded American you see that Ryan's budget is just more of the same GOP garbage - lower taxes for the rich and to hell with everyone else.

Romney's pick is obviously an attempt to get those on the far right, who want to take our country backward, to vote for he and Ryan. Ryan will do more damage than help to Romney. However, there is just about no amount of "help" that could make Romney palatable to the moderates or liberals.

Romney/Ryan - a disgusting slate but one the far right will love.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 44 votes
#1.9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

JON R

Bishop Romney courting the Hispanic vote in Florida would be as productive for him as being a contestant on "America's Got Talent".

  • 25 votes
#1.10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

WilliamOfRites -- The Marriott and "Son of Boss" scandal is in itself worth reviewing:

(CNN) -- Mitt Romney's refusal to release tax returns in the critical years of his income accumulation has done little to dispel the legitimate concern that arises from hints buried in his scant disclosure to date: Did he augment his wealth through highly aggressive tax stratagems of questionable validity?

...A key troubling public manifestation of Romney's apparent insensitivity to tax obligations is his role in Marriott International's abusive tax shelter activity, as previously reported by Jesse Drucker in Bloomberg.

Romney has had a close, long-standing, personal and business connection with Marriott International and its founders. He served as a member of the Marriott board of directors for many years. From 1993 to 1998, Romney was the head of the audit committee of the Marriott board.

During that period, Marriott engaged in a series of complex and high-profile maneuvers, including "Son of Boss," a notoriously abusive prepackaged tax shelter that investment banks and accounting firms marketed to corporations such as Marriott. In this respect, Marriott was in the vanguard of a then-emerging corporate tax shelter bubble that substantially undermined the entire corporate tax system.

Romney is so dirty, and one wonders about Paul Ryan too.

  • 40 votes
#1.11 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

His career ambition was not to go to Washington.

But that interpretation of Ryan's career clashes with his actual biography.

So now Mitt is lying about Ryan but that doesn't surprise me. Mitt has lied about everything else so why stop now?

  • 37 votes
#1.12 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

TruePatriot-445959

WilliamOfRites -- The Marriott and "Son of Boss" scandal is in itself worth reviewing

too bad RomneyHood will not allow us to peek into his tax eturns. Could this be one of the reasona (or the reason)?

  • 24 votes
#1.13 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

In addition to being a Republican, I am Also a SENIOR retiree Living in FLORIDA, and there is No Way this Republican is going to Vote for the Tax-Cheat and Retirement Pension Fund Robber, Mitt Romney, and his Radical, extreme Rightwing Teabagging side-kick Paul Ryan.

That's why this REPUBLICAN and SENIOR FLORIDA RETIREE is going to VOTE a Straight DEMOCRATIC ticket come this November 2012.

Romney should have gone with Rubio, and he would have gotten my Vote and easily carried my State of Florida.

Instead, Mitt Romney has shown to the World, that not only is he a Liar, Tax-Cheat Felon, and a Pension Fund Thief, but he's also an IMBECILE.

  • 34 votes
#1.14 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

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  • 23 votes
#1.16 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

"Romney and Ryan burnish each other’s biographies"...

""His country asked him to move to Salt Lake, to turn it around and save the Olympics, he did it and we're so proud of that moment," Ryan said

""The contrast could not be more clear. When he was governor of Massachusetts, he balanced the budget without raising taxes. President Obama has given us budgets with no balance ever and a lot of new taxes."

IS this what the GOP has to offer? Really? Paul Ryan? Romney Mittens? Seriously?....might as well be Mussolini and Hitler running....

We are doomed as a party when you have two right wing social engineers trying to bring a change back to status quo....

By choosing the clown from wisconsin, he has clearly shown that he is willing to go the distance to destroy our core values....

Pandering to religious propagandas under the guise of morality while and then joining forces with big banks and economic thieves to bring down the middle class and 99%ers aint gonna get us anywhere....

I am at a lose of words here folks.....

  • 28 votes
#1.18 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

BigBen,

Nothing but political propaganda brought to you by the GOP Senate committee chart and misinterpretation.

Your links go to articles that use the Senate chart and the figure "100million on welfare."

But you need to read the fine print to understand that 100M number. *

*"Figures include anyone residing in a household where at least one person received a program benefit." In other words, if your disabled brother lives with your family of six, and was a recipient of Medicaid (not to be confused with Medicare), all seven of you are listed as having received a welfare benefit."

- Jane Devin, article in the Huffington post.

This little "jawdropping" propangada was brought to you by Mitch McConnell and friends.

Ben, if you want to talk about the poor, disabled, unemployed, who qualify for safety net programs than start that conversation in the real world , not begin with political rhetoric.

BTW, wonder if they count the checks everyone who is a citizen of Alaska receives from the agreemnt between oil companys and the state government?

Met a ferry operator from Alaska who used her money to vacation in Mexico in the winter a number of years ago.

  • 17 votes
#1.19 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

littlebenalaska, your rant has been proven to be an outright lie. It was a lie the first time you posted it, and the Fiftieth time you've posted it. QUIT SPAMMING these boards MORON.

  • 16 votes
#1.20 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

Sorry folks, I am a real slow typist.:(

While posting above:

Seems Big Ben has left us for good.

  • 13 votes
#1.21 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:15 PM EDT

bayllie -- Agreed. The reason Romney can't release more years of tax returns is because 2008 and 2009 are probably the most incriminating -- these years were not seen by McCain. If voters were to learn about all the things Romney does to evade taxation, they would be so appalled he would have to step down as nominee right now.

If I was a Republican, I would not want to go any further until this is cleared up. I can assure you that if Romney/Ryan squeaked out a victory (especially due to voter suppression, there would likely be civil war -- no one will tolerate another Bush v Gore stealing the election), but investigation into Romney's past, and now Ryan's too would intensify until impeachment.

It's just a matter of time until the truth would be revealed. Better to know now than latter...

  • 20 votes
#1.22 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

Ryan, bah humbug. We Seniors have no love for this "wannabe".

OBAMA IN 2012.

  • 20 votes
#1.23 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:30 PM EDT

If Romney is voted in as the next President I am relocating to another country. Neither Romney nor Ryan have a clue except how to get to an ATM Look- What Obama had to inherit was a felony of the last Bush Presidency and there is no way he can repair it all in 4 years. WE NEED CONSISTENCY and R and R are not the answer. Obama needs 4 more years. R and R will only work for the rich. Good grief - what do they know about anything??

  • 19 votes
#1.24 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

TruePatriot-445959

bayllie -- Agreed. The reason Romney can't release more years of tax returns is because 2008 and 2009 are probably the most incriminating --

you would think that since Romney has been running for president more than he has not, he would have been able to "cook" at least 2 years of tax returns that would be considered acceptable to he voter.

I've asked this question many times but will ask again: Is Romney that stupid or that greedy or maybe both?

  • 15 votes
#1.25 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

bayllie -- The answer is Romney is that greedy and arrogant. His advisers no doubt recommended getting his taxes cleaned up back in 2002, and certainly by 2007. Romney took that risk thinking he may not get nominated so why pay taxes, and if he did get the nomination he would try to sanitize and provide the current year and the upcoming year.

Romney is so out-of-touch and entitled he really thinks he should be able to provide "flukes" though his 2010 is still incomplete and still the 13.9% tax rate and money in his IRA etc. looks really bad. Only a very greedy tight-arse--and one who has gotten away with lying to date would behave like him.

It's worse than pathetic, it makes a person ill to think about it.

  • 17 votes
#1.26 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

When I was a kid growing up- the answer was the rich get richer and the poor grew up poorer. My parents both worked and sent my bro and me to colleges without grants. Not that may have not been qualified, but he and my Mom were too proud to even think of asking for it. He took a thermos of tea and a homemade sandwich to work every morning. Does R and R know about those sacrifices? I really doubt it. God Bless America and can we get back to the basics and what this country was formed on. Personally, I respect Mrs. Obama and her impact on this country and our future Americans.

  • 22 votes
#1.27 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

And by the way I have been homeless going on 5 years and I still believe in Obama and I was a primary caregiver for my Mother for 4 years prior. We have to believe in consistency. I was a teacher and I would love to talk to Mr. and Mrs. Obama because I believe they know what is happening. Obama 2012

  • 12 votes
#1.28 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

True Patriot

Romney and Bain did not participate in the Son of Boss Scandals. This is a trumped up scandal to which your sources created.

    #1.29 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

    Oh, we know Romney never did anything wrong.

    Then why is he hiding his tax returns like he did do something wrong?

    • 15 votes
    #1.30 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:56 PM EDT

    All of hear from the left wing nuts and the Obama campaign is how Ryan's so called Budget (Plan) is bad for the middle class and seniors. What I am not seeing is what is Obama's plan for Medicare and SS. Obama and the Democrats will not even address the subjects except to criticize Ryan's Budget, they won't even say which plan they are criticizing the 2011 or 2012 one. Ryan said that he put the plan out with the hopes that the Democrats in the Senate would also propose their Budget and then both houses could reconcile it by making changes or recommendations which both parties could live with. But Dingy Harry Reid refuses to even put a budget forward.

    So again I ask WHAT IS THE DEMOCRATS PLAN FOR MEDICARE AND SS? Even the Medicate actuaries say Medicare will go broke in 12 years.

      #1.31 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

      DB Akron -- Do some research into why Romney receives mortgage payments from real estate investments in Texas. It is from the "Son of Boss" shenanigans -- and BTW, the Marriotts are Mormon too and why they are connected to Romney. Do you think these things are "trumped up," really, seriously? Harry Reid and the Huntsmans (and other Mormons) are cringing about this crap and they want it to stop hurting the reputation of the LDS Church now.

      But the "Son of Boss" scandal is only one of many--Heck just Romney's lying about his taxes to be eligible to run for governor of Massachusetts should be enough for the most casual observer to decide this guy is a Shyster. Fool me once...

      Paul Ryan is another nasty POS second only to Darrell Issa. They are all rich self-serving crooks, one way or another trying to get more "free stuff" at your expense. Wise up. These plutocrats could care less about you or our country.

      • 12 votes
      #1.32 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

      I see the libs on here are still afraid.They should be.They are about to lose the presidency and the senate.They have no one to blame but themselfs and their failed leader.

        #1.33 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

        TruePatriot-445959

        Romney took that risk thinking he may not get nominated so why pay taxes,

        because there is one thing that Romney loves more than Romney: and that's $

        • 9 votes
        #1.34 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

        TruePatriot - You can't tell DB anything. He is the ultimate authority on everything and if you don't believe me, just ask him. I have never encountered anyone like him except my much disliked uncle who were so convinced that the garbage and half-truths they babbled were from god's lips to their ears.

        • 6 votes
        #1.35 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

        If Romney and Ryan get elected to the White House, the headline is going to read "CLUELESS IN WASHINGTON".

        It is just absolutely dumbfounding to read about Romney's antics and stupidity for someone who is running for President. He was looking for strength and character in his V.P. Apparently he didn't get the strength but Romney and Ryan are definitely characters, as in cartoons. A definite match but in a bad way.

        ><>< OBAMA / BIDEN 2012 ><><

        • 10 votes
        #1.36 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:56 PM EDT

        Looks like Romney got desperate picking a Worm like Ryan for VP !!!!!

        • 6 votes
        #1.37 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

        kimH-1330542 -- I suspect it's worse than that. DB and other rightwingers know very well that: 1) Teapublican lock-step obstruction was premeditated; 2) Citizen's United is damaging to democracy yet they support Teapublican blockage of transparency laws; and 3) voter fraud or budget constraints are not the reason for Teapublican's voter suppression efforts.

        And these are just some of the main machinations, as there is much more such as gerrymandering, etc. It's hard to wrap one's head around such unpatriotic behavior, but if you can convince yourself that the ends justify the means because otherwise it will be the apocalypse, then this is what folks are capable of doing.

        They know Romney is a Shyster. Look at the polls and how low Romney's numbers have been regarding "likability" or being "trustworthy." Adding Paul Ryan to the ticket will not change the longer-term problem of Romney himself. Look at him--he looks like he aged overnight, and you can see he realizes he just demoted himself to nothing more than "working digits to sign" his VP's plan.

        Teapublicans know no bounds in this time of desperation, but tick tock, their lunge to the far-Right and bigoted exclusion of all but older white Evangelical males will hasten their demise, as changing demographics and younger voters increase...

        • 9 votes
        #1.38 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

        Mitt the Vulture promotes Social InSecurity; Ryan promotes MediScare. The Third Rail will destroy their political fortunes.

        Obama/Biden in a landslide 20112

        • 8 votes
        #1.39 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

        Seeing Romney and Ryan together looks like a new cast for the next season of MadMen!

        Anyone else see the potential here?...........They will both have to take up public drinking and smoking to make the grade, however.

        • 3 votes
        #1.40 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

        We know who they are, and no etch-a-sketch will change that. More giveaways to the rich at the expence of everyone else is not what this country needs. They are looters just like George W.

        It's not enough to send these two packing. All Republicans who have blocked the recovery or caused the crisis with Bush must go.

        • 2 votes
        #1.41 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

        Obama is a war criminal and he should be impeached.

        Obama has:

        Signed the NDAA bill into law allowing the assassination of any us citizen without trial (yes, I know it's been around for a long time but Obama signed it into law even though it's unconstitutional)

        Allowed 30,000 Spy drones to be flown over American skies (Unconstitutional, Against the Fourth Amendment).

        Obama has signed over 1000 Executive Orders since he took office (Thanks to that, it's now illegal to collect rain water)

        Obama has killed hundreds of innocent people (including 3 Americans) with drone strikes he has ordered in Pakistan And Yemen.

        Obama has raised the National debt Nearly $5 TRILLION.

        Obama has allowed almost 1 Million ILLEGAL aliens to become legal citizens (thanks to those he allowed to become citizens, they have committed 19 murders and 142 sex crimes)

        Lied About all of His 2008 Campaign Promises Including the One Where He said he campaigned in 57 states.

        Google Search "Dreams from my REAL father" and you'll see, Obama's father was a failed communist who's dream was to DESTROY America, at age 18, Obama went to a MARXIST school.

        Mitt Romney has or will:

        Has made Millions in an Abortion Business.

        Will sell jobs over seas.

        Will go to war with any Country he wants to without Congressional Approval (he says).

        Both the Republican party and Democratic party are really the same thing now.

        You know who we need for President? Gary Johnson, he is the Libertarian Presidential Canidate, he wants to End the IRS, End the Fed, End useless Government Agencies likes the Department of Homeland Security. He is Against wars. You are probably thinking "Why vote for him? He has no chance.", he has polled in Nearly %10 and needs %15 to Delegate Obama.

        The 2012 votes are being counted in an Offshore Company own by George Soros in Spain (Which is TREASON!).

        • 1 vote
        #1.42 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:14 AM EDT

        Think they burnished each other in the 69?

          #1.43 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:27 AM EDT
          Reply

          Only 3 months until the healing of America can begin. Debt, Despair, Doubt, Divisiveness, Destestable, Democrat. 6 of a kind.

          • 6 votes
          #2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:57 PM EDT

          commonamerican1 A everyday happening. Rich, Repulsive, Repressive, Rmoney, Ryan, Republican. 6 of a kind. Look it can work both ways.

          • 31 votes
          #2.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

          The fringe will get fired up. Everyone else, not so much.

          • 15 votes
          #2.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

          It's good the GOP has nominated a regular guy like Romney. After all who doesn't have:

          1) A car elevator in their house

          2) A dancing horse

          3) More offshore accounts than Hasselhof

          4) Friends that own NASCAR teams

          5) A company that in it's own brochure calls itself "One stop job outsourcing"

          • 37 votes
          #2.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

          Only 3 months until the healing of America can begin.

          Right. Obama's re-elected, the Senate remains in Democratic control, and best of all, the House returns to a liberal majority. Life will be better for 99% of the population once again.

          • 31 votes
          #2.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

          commonamerican1 - yes only 3 months before we kick out as many of the obstructionists in the Republican party and again work as a country - behind President Obama - to move our country forward.

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 30 votes
          #2.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

          Obama/Biden 2012

          It will be fun to watch Romney give his concession speech and hopefully that will be the end of Mitt running for anything...HOPEFULLY!

          • 22 votes
          #2.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

          bayllie - one can only hope. But, he hasn't gotten the clue yet and this is what - his 3rd run for President? I think he believes that if they bet us over the head with him enough we'll just say okay. Nope! Not having that!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 22 votes
          #2.9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

          @WilliamOfRites It's good the GOP has nominated a regular guy like Romney. After all who doesn't have...

          Choose a "regular guy” at random. Chances are that he would:

          Cause an NFL team to lose if playing quarterback

          Sound awful playing a violin solo with the Philadelphia Symphony

          Be quickly checkmated by a Russian chess grandmaster

          Hurt the country's economy and world position if chosen as President.

          The point is that becoming world-class at anything takes a huge amount of training, experience, and natural aptitude. Governing a country is no exception. Romney has demonstrated that he is truly extraordinary at planning, organizing, negotiating, etc. Everything, in fact, that is required to be a world-class US President. If that makes his personality a little inaccessible to the common man, that is understandable … and acceptable.

          • 4 votes
          #2.10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:06 PM EDT

          kannin - Romney is extraordinary at NOTHING but selling sparkly items to buffoons who are actually thinking of voting for him. He is lacking integrity; class; honesty; ideas; ideals; everything!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 28 votes
          #2.11 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

          Kannin

          Romney has demonstrated that he is truly extraordinary at planning, organizing, negotiating, etc. Everything, in fact, that is required to be a world-class US President. If that makes his personality a little inaccessible to the common man, that is understandable … and acceptable.

          Romney has demontrated that:

          1. He could not run a teeny weeny Massachusetts

          2. He is great at making money for the selected few while most get screwed

          3. He can fix Olympics by taking the taxpayers' money

          4. He cannot visit other countries without offending them

          5. He has no problem using the image of a dead Pope which I find extra disgusting

          6. He is great at being vague

          7. He is great at being for something while he is against it

          • 28 votes
          #2.12 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

          Republicans like to forget that Mitt is such a thinker that he forgot to think about fixing his taxes so he could release them when he ran like everyone else does when they run for president.

          He even had to go back and refile taxes in Massachusetts instead of Utah because he couldn't think far enough ahead to know that would be a problem when he would run for governor.

          Then to claim Romney had nothing to do with the awful things Bain did, he went back and retroactively retired. As if you know anyone else who ever went back and retired 3 years before they actually did, years later.

          Mitt couldn't even think hard enough to realize that critizing the job the English had done on national television was insulting.

          The most insulting part is the republicans are trying to pass Mitt the twit off as a leader with Ruthless Ryan being his cohort willing to let seniors die so he and Mitt can have bigger tax cuts.

          VOTE FOR AMERICA...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

          • 21 votes
          #2.15 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

          Will of Rites

          Parts of California are like Boston and NYC. You'd be suprised how many people do put a car elevator in a house so they can have a better first floor plan.

          In some Boston Neighborhoods the cost to just park one car on the street in front of you house - $160 per month. In such urban and suburban areas, using an elevator to park your 2 or 3 cars makes a lot of practical sense.

          • 1 vote
          #2.16 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

          Maybe Ryan never had a real job, but he's really gotten lots done in Congress. In his 13 year illustrious service to WI, he's seen two of his bills actually pass into law. One renamed a post office, the other lowered sales taxes on arrows used by bowhunters, such as Paul Ryan, an avid bowhunter. For this he received a big "Thank you" from archery manufacturers.

          Currently he's won accolades from Ayn Rand conservatives, who are pleased with Catholic Paul Ryan's budget ideas. They must admire him for standing up to the Nuns on the Bus and the Catholic Bishops who've condemned his budget ideas as UnChristian.

          • 10 votes
          #2.17 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

          MNPat -- Great post. Romney had to completely distance himself from the *business experience* mantra central to his campaign, not only because his own experience has been in Private Inequity and Vulture Capitalism of job destruction and off-shoring, but because Paul Ryan has ZERO private sector background.

          Oh, and also running away from statements about picking a VP ready to be POTUS -- Ryan is not a Washington outsider, not someone who can relate to the average middle class American, and is unlikely to help win Wisconsin -- And unlikely to even help win Tea Party members or other groups like women, etc.

          Romney's first executive decision will likely be his last.

          • 8 votes
          #2.18 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

          Romney's pick for VP makes Palin & Bachmann like Presidential !!!!!!

          • 5 votes
          #2.19 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:15 PM EDT
          Reply

          Romney referenced Ryan's father's death as a character building event but his own bullying incident at the same age was a childish prank.

          • 28 votes
          #3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:03 PM EDT
          Comment author avatarBob in Virginia-5210392Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

          While you are down there in the gutter, say hello to Bill Burton and the rest of the smear mongers..why not just accuse Romney and Ryan of murder and be done with it?

          • 6 votes
          #3.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

          @LOYALTEXAN

          "Romney referenced Ryan's father's death as a character building event but his own bullying incident at the same age was a childish prank."

          'Loyal,' that wasn't "character building" for Romney because he claims not to remember the bullying. So, I've got to agree no character was built from that, or apparently anything else in Mr. Romney's life. He seems a man devoid of character, or any strongly held convictions or core values other than the accumulation of personal wealth regardless of the costs to others, and saying anything in pursuit of personal ambition. Character doesn't fit in that envelope.

          @Bob in Virginia-5210392

          "..why not just accuse Romney and Ryan of murder and be done with it?"

          Hey, don't stop now, tell us more. Do you know something, Bob????

          ;-)

          PS. This headline needs an edit: Romney and Ryan burnish embellish each other’s biographies

          • 23 votes
          #3.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

          Bob in VA - you and the rest of the Republicans certainly know the gutter since that is where the party has lived ever since President Obama was elected. You've accused him of everything and, of course, just looked stupid.

          Your elected officials in Congress took an oath to block everything he tried to do for the country to make him a one term President.

          Yep, you're clearly qualified to talk about the gutter since that is where you live!

          Obama/Biden 2012

          • 27 votes
          #3.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

          While you are down there in the gutter, say hello to Bill Burton and the rest of the smear mongers.

          Feels good doesn't it, Bob? After all, we've heard over 4 years of Marxist/Communist out destroy America and turn us into the next Soviet Union, or Muslim extremist bent on applying Sharia Law. Don't talk about smear mongers unless you mention Beck, Hannity and that fat tub of lard Limbaugh.

          • 24 votes
          #3.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

          Bob in Virginia.

          Did I strike a nerve? Did I make a misstatement? How do we get from politicizing Ryan's father's unfortunate demise to accusing Mitt the barber of murder?

          • 17 votes
          #3.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

          Mitt wants to commit murder in the future and is proud of it. Because his killing of the health-care law on his first day as president would be denying health-care to 40 million people and that would cause hundreds if not thousands to die early deaths.

          Why was health-care good enough for the people in his one state, but not the rest of us?

          PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

          • 16 votes
          #3.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:22 PM EDT

          Seeking

          Middle America who fought hard to get out of the Gutter is being pushed further into the Gutter by the Democrats.

          • 1 vote
          #3.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

          DB Akron

          Seeking

          Middle America who fought hard to get out of the Gutter is being pushed further into the Gutter by the Democrats.

          how?

          • 8 votes
          #3.9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

          Ryan voted for "W" tax cuts for the 1%, two unfunded wars, wall street bailouts and Medicare part D, he also teamed up with the TeaWackos in Sabotaging our Nation to keep the Unemployment rate over 8.3%, this Voucher head is a total disgrace to America !!!!!!!!!!

          • 6 votes
          #3.10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

          but pitched to a crowd of nearly 2,000 that Ryan had gone to Washington at the expense of his career, rather than as a career.

          Aw shucks - two peas in a pod. Romney gave up his career at Bain (or retroactively retired) to selflessly throw himself out there to run for the unwanted position as President, and Ryan gave up his career in the private sector (which he never had) to eventually be picked for unwanted position as VP. Man, these two are the epitome of true Americans, sacrificing their personal goals and ambitions to serve the greater good. Yeah, right!! What a bunch of sanctimonious BS. One thing is for sure - they do make a good duo of tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum.

          • 5 votes
          #3.11 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:58 PM EDT

          Middle America who fought hard to get out of the Gutter is being pushed further into the Gutter by the Democrats.

          What a bunch of BS. The largest transference of wealth from every class into the pockets of the 1% has been happening since the '80s, and was started with Reagan's massively failed trickle down policies leading to the slow destruction of the middle class. Incidentally, the President who famously raised taxes over and over again primarily on the middle class.

          • 6 votes
          #3.12 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

          Bob in Virginia (your post 3.1)

          Would not be fair to blame Ryan of murder. He wasn't on Vulture Capitalist Mitts team back then.

          • 2 votes
          #3.13 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:36 PM EDT

          Have none of you read that the "victim" in the Romney bullying story also has no memory of it ever occurring?

          Sigh.

            #3.14 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

            @mpa-4893349

            "Have none of you read that the "victim" in the Romney bullying story also has no memory of it ever occurring? Sigh."

            No, 'mpa', we haven't heard that. Because it's not true. The "victim" has been dead since 2004. You are confusing a statement from Christine Lauber, the older sister of victim John Lauber (who died of liver cancer in 2004). When found by an ABC News reporter and questioned she said she had no personal knowledge of the incident, and also said it is unlikely her brother would have said anything about it.

            So the question is, are you just confused about this, or are you spinning and making up your own facts.

            Read, and learn. The other individuals involved with Mitt Romney in the assault on John Lauber are the ones who came forward to speak about that incident. One of them, Mr. Romney’s former classmate, Phillip Maxwell, now a lawyer, described the incident and said he considered the “prank” (as labeled by Mr. Romney, who also has stated he has no memory of the incident) at Michigan’s Cranbrook School to have been “assault and battery.” Maxwell said he held the boy’s arm and leg, describing himself and his friends as a “pack of dogs.”

            Spin that!

            But first answer for us why -- regardless of your personal political persuasion -- you would try to defend that?

            • 1 vote
            #3.15 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:23 PM EDT
            Reply
            Comment author avatarM.J. - CTExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

            I'd like to see President Obama and Mr. Biden burnish each other.

            Maybe Mr. Biden would be more accurate on President Obama's personal history.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 PM EDT

            Hey did you know Paul Ryan has never had a real private sector job either...looks like he is as unqualified as Obama huh?

            • 20 votes
            #4.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:41 PM EDT

            @We: Ryan wasn't qaulified for dog catcher. So he ran for congress.

            • 16 votes
            #4.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:49 PM EDT

            Earnest - but he could help Romney strap the dog carrier on top of his car. I guess he's good for something!

            Obama/Biden 2012

            • 17 votes
            #4.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

            "The contrast could not be more clear. When he was governor of Massachusetts, he balanced the budget without raising taxes. President Obama has given us budgets with no balance ever and a lot of new taxes."

            Now now Eddie Munster, if Obama's penalty for not having health insurance is now a "tax," then so are the hundreds of millions in increased licenses, fees, permit costs and penalty increases (including that pesky one about not having health insurance) that happened under Willard's watch as MA Governor count as taxes too don't they?

            As far as Obama's "lots of new taxes" please list them here. I'll spot you Boehner tanning booth tax and the deadbeat "tax" for not having health insurance.

            • 8 votes
            #4.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

            Ryan is Waterboarding Romney to be team one with the TeaReTards !!!!

            • 2 votes
            #4.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:30 PM EDT

            who cares about their personal history. They make a great team and can get things done with another 4 yrs. Don't go after their personal history- I think Americans are sick to this stuff. My grandfather came over for Italy in 1905- he would be appalled. Please stop it . We need to embrace this country and get back to the basics and that does not include R and R. And- by the way I am proud to be an American and I am white- So can we please stop the birth certificate, etc cr*p and re-elect Obama.

            • 3 votes
            #4.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

            We the Corp

            Like Ron Paul, Ryan has not even held a Statewide office.

              #4.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:45 PM EDT
              Reply

              Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

              Romney expands lead to 5% - Obama support drops to 43%

              The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 43%. Five percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. See tracking history.

              Yesterday morning, Romney named Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan to be his vice presidential running mate....

              Romney/Ryan 2012!!! LEADERSHIP FOR A CHANGE!!! Yeah Baby!!!

              • 4 votes
              #5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:05 PM EDT
              • 13 votes
              #5.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

              Oh, please. Polls are not reliable. Some participate in a particular poll in a particular short time period, but fact remains a hell of a lot more did not participate in that same poll. And election day is a looooooong way away.

              • 3 votes
              #5.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:15 PM EDT

              Daniel Rasmussen explains why their polls are consistently outlyers in favor of the GOP. They state that they poll likely voters rather than all voters as others do.

              Well maybe, but there are a lot of smart professional pollsters out there who do not agree with Rasmussen and suspect he favors republican voters by 4% in his sample.

              • 11 votes
              #5.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

              Daniel,

              Real Clear Politics average of 7 polls that includes FOX News and Rasmussen Tracking has President Obama leading by 4.6 points nationally however in what really matters, the Electoral College, Our President has a commanding lead:

              8 Swing States: Obama leads in 7, Romney leads in 1.

              Delegates: Obama = Solid(142)+Likely(37)+Lean(68)+Swing(85) = 332*

              Delegates: Romney = Solid(76)+Likely(55)+Lean(60)+Swing(15) = 206

              Total Delegates: [332+206 = 538] Win = 270*

              http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

              • 14 votes
              #5.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

              Romney and Ryan did get a bounce.

              The newest research from Nate has it as:
              Today

              “Obama chance of winning 71.6% Romney 28.4%”

              Projected Winner Obama 303.6

              Projected Loser Romney 234.4

              • 15 votes
              #5.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

              Dennis - well now there you go talking fact to Daniel. How many times have we explained you can't do that with Republicans - it just makes their little heads spin - then explode!

              • 16 votes
              #5.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

              Job1

              Romney and Ryan did get a bounce.

              The newest research from Nate has it as:
              Today

              “Obama chance of winning 71.6% Romney 28.4%”

              and if we let the Ryan dust settle, we will see Romney's numbers sink even more. Once the newness wears off and Romney goes back to his old ways, Romney's numbers will get even worse.

              • 14 votes
              #5.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

              bayllie - this is the bounce you would normally get after the convention - they won't be getting that bounce. I think their "bouncing" is done! However, the President will still get a sizable bounce with the Democratic convention.

              Obama/Biden 2012

              • 16 votes
              #5.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

              What bounce? Since when does a balloon full of piss bounce? All I heard was a large splat.

              • 14 votes
              #5.9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

              blackcatwhitecat

              What bounce? Since when does a balloon full of piss bounce? All I heard was a large splat.

              let's give them some bounce. After all, that's all Romney's got.

              • 5 votes
              #5.10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

              bayllie

              let's give them some bounce. After all, that's all Romney's got.

              Fine. They can add some gelatine to the mix and throw that bounce at a fan.

              • 6 votes
              #5.11 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

              Folks,

              The only Reason Obama is ahead in the polls is that quite a number of polling companies have gone from slightly number more of democrats polled to a greatly exaggerated number of Democrats polled over Republicans.

              From the Fox Poll on Friday. Obama with a 9 point lead nationally. To accomplish this the Democrat pollster contracted by Fox news used 44% Democrats, 35% Republicans and 19% Independents and 2% others. I've seen polling from a number of sources that show the mix out there is around 33% each. All sources point to a Energized Republican voter and an unmotivated Democratic voter.

              This not only allows loyal supporters not to panic, but also gives opportunity to try to grind those who think otherwise into submission, thus suppressing the opposition.

                #5.12 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

                DB,

                So the liberal media are using their polls to make it appear that President Obama is ahead so that the Democrats will think the election is in the bag for Obama and they will stay at home on Election Day … is that what you are saying??

                • 6 votes
                #5.13 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

                Romney smells like a Corndog with this VP pick !!!!!!!!!!!!

                • 2 votes
                #5.14 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                There aren't many polls out yet since the VP pick, but there isn't anything with a 5-point lead for Romney -- even Foxmussen at best showed 2+. The last Quinnipiac was August 8th...

                Folks who use cell phones exclusively tend to vote Democrat, and then those polls give the president an even larger lead -- though seniors are likely to move more toward the Dems too now with Ryan and "ending Medicare as we know it."

                • 6 votes
                #5.15 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:38 PM EDT
                Reply

                Obama picked a candidate in his own image: a foul-mouthed, low life, who main claim to fame is that he is a PLAGIARIST! Romney picked a candidate who has a sense of honor and decency.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

                Put the TEA down, and come on back to reality man.

                Rmoney is an etch-a-sketch who has flip flopped on EVERY issue, and Ryan wants to completely change medicare into a private for profit coupon, vote for more tax cuts to the rich, vote for TARP again, and invade sovereign nations...neither man has Honor or decency.

                • 19 votes
                #6.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:44 PM EDT

                Russ - the Republican party threw decency out the door decades ago. Most voters today are smart enough to know the GOP no longer cares for the country - just what they can wring from it.

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 17 votes
                #6.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:50 PM EDT

                @We: Big goverment was ok then. Suddenly, it's a bad thing.

                @Seeking: With the demographics changing and the reaching for the extreme, the only way the GNOP can stay in power is by stealing it.

                • 11 votes
                #6.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                Russ-328178

                Romney picked a candidate who has a sense of honor and decency.

                you have to prove to us first that Romney has a sense of honor and decency.

                • 14 votes
                #6.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                Earnest - @Seeking: With the demographics changing and the reaching for the extreme, the only way the GNOP can stay in power is by stealing it.

                Sad but true. However, they are good at stealing! Just maybe they will reassess their party if they get blown out of the water in November and try to actually BECOME a party a large number of intelligent people in the country can support - instead of a backward, hate-filled embarrassment. I realize the chances are slim but I keep thinking they will get a clue!

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 12 votes
                #6.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

                Russ,

                It's that "sense of decency" that's won Catholic Paul Ryan's budget the condemnation of the Catholic Bishops and Nuns on the Bus.

                • 6 votes
                #6.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                Romney & Ryan are Celebrating this VP pick with a Parade down "Numskull Blvd" !!!!!!!!!!

                • 1 vote
                #6.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:38 PM EDT
                Reply

                From Paul Ryan's speech yesterday:

                America is more than just a place...it's an idea. It's the only country founded on an idea. Our rights come from nature and God, not government. We promise equal opportunity, not equal outcomes.

                This idea is founded on the principles of liberty, freedom, free enterprise, self-determination and government by consent of the governed.

                This idea is under assault. So, we have a critical decision to make as a nation.

                We are on an unsustainable path that is robbing America of our freedom and security. It doesn't have to be this way.

                The commitment Mitt Romney and I make to you is this:

                We won't duck the tough issues...we will lead!

                We won't blame others...we will take responsibility!

                We won't replace our founding principles...we will reapply them!

                Romney/Ryan 2012!!! LEADERSHIP FOR A CHANGE!!! Yeah Baby!!!

                • 5 votes
                Reply#7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:09 PM EDT

                What do you expect from a former Jack Kemp speech writer? His comments are so cliche. The typical 'Tell the people what they want to hear'... *yawn*

                • 19 votes
                #7.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                Does leadership include transparency? And if so, then will Paul Ryan be a real leader and demand Mitt release his tax returns so we can all make our own decisions?

                • 18 votes
                #7.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:46 PM EDT

                We the corporations - I loved today when George Stephanopoulus asked Pawlenty how many years of taxes he had released to be vetted by Romney. Pawlenty say a lot of years. George asked "more than two" and Pawlenty said, "quite a few, I forget how many." Very telling. Romney is afraid to show his but has to see his running mates. Can we all say hypocrite?

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 19 votes
                #7.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

                Well, since Ryan voted for the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act 2008, where the American people funded the bailout of Wall Street and banks with TARP and TBTF (for extremely bad greed-based behavior), wouldn't that mean that Ryan's a socialist? I mean, where's the capitalism and free enterprise in a bailout? Ryan is right in there with privatized profit and socialized losses!

                • 13 votes
                #7.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

                Daniel

                Ryan proclaims that our freedoms come from God (not sure which one), not Government. But Ryan needs to explain why it took Government to convert Gods' largess into human rights for Americans of color.

                From the Emancipation Proclamation through reconstruction to Johnson's Civil Rights Act it was only Government intervention that pressured for the achievement of human rights for all Americans.

                • 10 votes
                #7.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

                Daniel,

                Mitt Romney while introducing his VP pick: “We want the dreamers here.”

                This is another “flip-flop” because during the debates he said he wants them to “self deport”?

                • 11 votes
                #7.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                Dennis

                Perhaps you should consider the difference between Mr. Romney's dreamer and President Obama's dreamer...

                I'm sure you're just confused as "flip-flopping", "evolving", and "pivoting" now have the same meaning.

                • 1 vote
                #7.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

                M.J.,

                Do tell … what is the difference ??

                • 7 votes
                #7.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

                It seems the only dream Romney/Ryan have is lots of Americans suffering and starving and making sure the poor never get out of poverty with education.

                Ryan dreams of taking medicare from seniors and food from children.

                Republicans dream of taking voting rights away from millions.

                Republicans dream of taking rights away from women and making them into second class citizens with the government being in charge of her reproductive rights.

                Those are the dreamers the republicans are calling for, the dreamers that think it is their right to take yours away.

                • 8 votes
                #7.9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:40 PM EDT

                M.J. - CT

                I'm sure you're just confused as "flip-flopping", "evolving", and "pivoting"

                evolving is changing your views over time. Most of us evolve or we (as a society) would still be against mixed race marriages or women being able to vote.

                flip flopping is changing your view depending on your audience or the time of the day.

                • 10 votes
                #7.10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:01 PM EDT

                Dennis

                Foul Ball!

                You know as well as I do they meant people dreaming to get ahead on their own.

                Obama's Vision

                You only can accomplish your dream with government help.

                Obama's Reality

                Your only dream is to get a handout from government!

                  #7.11 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                  DB,

                  What he said is exactly what he meant and it was exactly what I heard … and you know it.

                  I started my own business and I didn't use any direct government help but there was plenty available. Several other businesses used help especially first time startup business owners.

                  But I did appreciate the help I got with road and sewer maintenance.

                  • 3 votes
                  #7.12 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

                  Paul Ryan will show to be a ill choice for the Flip Flopper !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.13 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:41 PM EDT

                  BULL R AND R HAVE NOT GOT A CLUE. THE COUNTRY WILL BE IN THE DEEPEST PART OF THE TOILET THAT BUSH LEFT US IN

                  • 1 vote
                  #7.14 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:51 AM EDT
                  Reply
                  yosoloDeleted

                  On this fine Sunday, the spin has begun.

                  So now Ryan's 14 year career in House was not what he really wanted to do?

                  He really wanted to have a private career in WI?

                  Fact: Ryan went to DC at the age of 28, working on the Hill and never looked back.

                  And Romney anwsered his COUNTRY"S CALL to go to Utah and reorganize the Olympic"?

                  I thought the phrase answering" your country's call" is normally used when one joins the military or says yes to a President to serve in the cabinet or other public service position.

                  Fact: Romney did neither.

                  • 20 votes
                  #9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:13 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarDaniel StreibigExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  YEah Northstar, What have either one of those successful men accomplished for this country??? Romney , Job creator, successful businessman, governor... Or Ryan, Family business, intern for Jack Kemp, seven term congressman.. Those BASTARDS!!! Running for president and vice president... That isn't answering your country's call? DFL = Dumb Fugging Liberal

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                  Northstar, I know what you mean. I say BS!

                  • 10 votes
                  #9.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:26 PM EDT

                  Daniel,

                  I will readily admit that Ryan is a successful career politician from his district in WI. In fact he is on the ballot for both VP and Congressperson in November in WI. He will have a job either way.

                  I just do not like the spin that he really would want to do something different.

                  Romney was a very successful CEO of a vulture capital firm. He made tons of money for himself and the partners of his company. That business plan is to buy and sell companies to make money for Bain , caring about these companies was secondary at the least.

                  I will not use the phrase "job creator" for him . I save that phrase for people who make things, produce a service that people need in their everyday life. But that is just me.

                  BTW, DFL stands for Democratic Farmer Labor. This party has a proud history in MN.

                  And I am proud to be a Democrat.

                  • 15 votes
                  #9.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:45 PM EDT

                  Actually Northstar, Romney is a job creator in every sense of the phrase. He was personally responsible for rescuing failing companies and bringing them back to prosperity. In the process, hundreds of thousands of US jobs were created. Again, hundreds of thousands of US jobs that might otherwise gone overseas.

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                  Daniel Streibig

                  Romney , Job creator, successful businessman, governor...

                  Romney's job creation is a byproduct of what he was hired to do:to make money for the few investors. When you calim this "job creation" you should also claim layoffs, shutdowns, outsourcing, offshoring, bankruptcies. you don't get to pick just the good and ignore the bad..

                  good governor? ha, Romney's record as gov. speaks volumes plus he only decided to run for gov of Mass for 2 reasons: 1. he would not have been elected as a Republican in any other state (too liberal at that time); 2. he wanted to use Mass for his resume. Too bad he sucked at it because he won't even talk about Massachusetts today.

                  • 10 votes
                  #9.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                  bayllie - and Romney didn't run for re-election in Mass because he knew he didn't stand a chance - plus he was bored. Didn't really want to be governor anyway - just wanted it as a stepping stone to the Presidency - so he can say he did one better than his father. This "man" is a pathetic excuse for anything. IF he got elected, he would be bored with this in a year and be a "no show" as President - kind of like he's a no show as a person!

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 10 votes
                  #9.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                  Romney is a job creator in every sense of the phrase. He was personally responsible for rescuing failing companies and bringing them back to prosperity. In the process, hundreds of thousands of US jobs were created. Again, hundreds of thousands of US jobs that might otherwise gone overseas.

                  Nice of you to insert a little humor into the conversation, Kannin. Thanks, I needed a good laugh!

                  • 10 votes
                  #9.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:12 PM EDT

                  Kannin

                  Actually Northstar, Romney is a job creator in every sense of the phrase. He was personally responsible for rescuing failing companies and bringing them back to prosperity.

                  that was not Bain's mission statement: making money was at all costs even if it meant bankrupties.

                  There is a difference between having a goal to IMPROVE a company and having a goal to MAKE MONEY.

                  In the process, hundreds of thousands of US jobs were created. Again, hundreds of thousands of US jobs that might otherwise gone overseas

                  show me proof that Mitt created jobs. Better yet, show me proof that shows the decisions Mitt made were to CREATE JOBS.

                  • 11 votes
                  #9.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

                  SeekingSanity

                  bayllie - and Romney didn't run for re-election in Mass because he knew he didn't stand a chance - plus he was bored.

                  with a 30something approval rating, Romney didn't stand a chance. Plus, Romney got what he wanted out of the office; he spent a year - while still being a governor - to make connections for his 2008 presidential run.

                  • 10 votes
                  #9.9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:15 PM EDT

                  Jon - Typical Democrat, cavalierly dismissing facts as humorous when they are inconvient for you. Fact is, Romney has already created more jobs than Obama!

                  He was behind the start up of Staples. Starting with one store in 1986, Staples now is the world's largest office products company with $24 billion in sales in 2009.

                  There were a handful of companies in which jobs were lost, but the jobs created by all the others number in the hundreds of thousands ... hundreds of thousands of US workers.

                  What is even more noteworthy is the fact that he never blamed the previous management for his own difficulties – he just fixed what was wrong.

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

                  kannin - you might just want to read up on Staples as every thing you post is a lie.

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 9 votes
                  #9.11 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                  Kanin,

                  According to Bain's own mission statement:

                  Approach
                  Our mission at Bain Capital is to produce superior investment returns for our investors. To accomplish this, Bain Capital follows three fundamental principles that have driven the firm for more than 28 years: a high-performance culture, value-added approach to investing, and leveraging our institutional advantages. Our adherence to these principles has enabled Bain Capital to attract and retain some of the industry's most talented investment specialists, and to consistently generate industry-leading returns.

                  baincapitalprivatequity.com

                  No where is the "job creator" used.

                  Your interpretation of the term is to soften what Bain really does and therefore your view of Romeny and his expereince.

                  Kannin , I am not buying it.
                  I stand by my use of the phrase" job creator. "

                  • 9 votes
                  #9.12 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

                  Kannin if Romney refuses to accept any of the credit since 1999 of the bad things Bain did, then how does he get to accept the credit for the meager good.

                  And don't forget that all these staples people have low income jobs with no retirement and need the social security and medicare that Romney/Ryan would kill.

                  • 5 votes
                  #9.13 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

                  NorthstarDFL

                  No where is the "job creator" used.

                  poor kannin still believes that Bain was all about JOBS!JOBS!JOBS! Anyone with a brain would know why companies like Bain are about.

                  • 5 votes
                  #9.14 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                  No Bayllie - Obama was "all about JOBS!JOBS!JOBS!" and failed miserably. Romney was about helping organizations return to prosperity, and succeeded spectacularly. By making a company - or a country - prosperous, jobs naturally follow.

                    #9.15 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

                    Kannin you mean like the republicans when they campaigned on jobs and instead gave us voter suppression and women's rights suppression?

                    Staples not Romney helped to create a lot of low paying jobs that are the jobs that republicans bitch about that don't make enough money to pay taxes if they have kids.

                    Romney's intentions were to get rich, he never set out to create jobs and that is why he couldn't create jobs that he promised when he was governor either.

                    Romney already ran on jobs and failed miserably so let just run him as the job creator again because the republican voters are too stupid to notice that Romney couldn't create jobs before and his state went from 37th to 47th in job creation while governor.

                    • 4 votes
                    #9.16 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

                    Kannin

                    No Bayllie - Obama was "all about JOBS!JOBS!JOBS!" and failed miserably.

                    The JOBS!JOBS!JOBS! was what the Republicans promised back in 2010 and didn't deliver.

                    So let's compare Obama to his Republican predecessor:

                    2008 - 2.6 million jobs LOST

                    Jan - March 2009 - another 2 million jobs lost

                    2012 - 1,842,011 jobs GAINED

                    2011 - 1,061,012 jobs GAINED

                    so yes, Obama is all about JOBS!JOBS!JOBS!

                    • 4 votes
                    #9.17 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                    Ballie

                    George Bush policies created 6 millon jobs in 2 years (3 million per year) from 2005 - 2006.

                    Ronald Reagan Policies created 11 million jobs in 5 years (2.2 million per year)

                    And you THINK a 2 year total less than 2.9 million jobs or 1.45 Million per year is good?

                    And don't bother going on that his policies being the cause. Poor home mortgage polices starting in 1977 and given teeth in 1999 were the cause of the collapse.

                    • 1 vote
                    #9.18 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

                    DB,

                    Considering the job loss trend we were on, that 70% of our manufacturing businesses were shipped out of the US and our export business had declined by about 60% … Then, yes it has been a good recovery so far!

                    1 million more jobs were created in just the last 7 months than were created during President Bush’s entire first term, 48 months.

                    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

                    • 2 votes
                    #9.19 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

                    Dennis

                    IF you actually talked to business people they will tell you that what motivates them to move out of the country to produce their products are that lower wages, lower taxes, less regulations, and lower health care. Which one or ones depends upon what was the bigger hurt.

                    GE - lobbyied congress to outlaw incandescent bulbs. Then realized that the new bulbs required twice the labor, so they established production because the Union wages and benefits made our bulbs cost far more than those overseas. After production was up and running, they closed all US incandescent bulb plants.

                    Hershey's Chocolate moved much of it's chocolate production to Mexico. Labor costs made that pruduction unprofitable in the US.

                    Edenpure heaters recently re-opened production in Canton. They were concerned that energy prices would make all there imported production unprofitable. They got huge tax abatements from the Municipality down there so they felt they could bring some production back. The tax abatements allowed them to make a profit on that production, so they just in the past few weeks announce that they are going to add a newly developed product line canton.

                    BTW your 70% of our production numbers are trumped up. We still have 56% of the worlds manufacturing lines.

                      #9.20 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

                      So why did they begin moving during the Reagan years?

                      I know because I helped my company do the outsourcing planning in the mid 80's.

                      You know what you talk about !!!

                      • 2 votes
                      #9.21 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:59 PM EDT

                      DB Akron

                      Ballie

                      George Bush policies created 6 millon jobs in 2 years (3 million per year) from 2005 - 2006.

                      the magic word is "NET" jobs.

                      It's like saying I won a million by playing the lottery when I spent 1.3 million to win it...

                      another point is that Bush got the office when things were stable. Obama got to come in when $hit was hitting the fan so we can conclude that Bush had it much much much easier and still managed to f*ck it up...

                        #9.22 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:14 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        Hey Everybody, I went to the Romney/Ryan Rally at Harris Pavillion in Manassas yesterday... Harris Pavillion seats about 4,000 which is more than they expected, however over 11,000 (according to the radio) showed up! They just moved a jumbotron and some speakers out into the parking lots and it was an amazing rally!!! Romney looked great, Ryan looked like he was having a lot of fun... It's a great ticket!!! Lots of energy and an unbelievable crowd!!!

                        Go ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!! YEAH BABY!!! Leadership for a change!!!

                        • 6 votes
                        Reply#10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

                        Daniel, thanks for the report!

                        The crowd looked really energized on TV! I badly sprained my ankle this week, or otherwise I would have attended the Ashland rally....

                        Virginia will go for Romney-Ryan, our Governor will help make that happen...

                        • 6 votes
                        #10.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                        Bob, it was really a great day yesterday. The energy was amazing! Hope your ankle gets better soon and keep fighting the good fight!

                        Go ROMNEY/RYAN 2012!!! YEAH BABY!!! Leadership for a change!!!

                        • 4 votes
                        #10.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:28 PM EDT

                        Daniel.... We are going to see much of the same here in North Florida (Flagler College St. Augustine, Oldest City in the US) Monday. Real hope always generates Great excitment and Great energy. Thanks for your update.

                        • 2 votes
                        #10.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                        Bob in VA, Danie, HeReigns - sorry boys - Virginia will go for President Obama. The pick of Ryan sealed that one. And Florida, just sent that one to Obama, too. You couldn't sell Ryan in Florida if he came wrapped in Salt Water Taffey!

                        Obama/Biden 2012

                        • 10 votes
                        #10.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:24 PM EDT

                        It's a great ticket!!! Lots of energy and an unbelievable crowd of old, white people!!!

                        There, I fixed it for you. Your welcome.

                        • 12 votes
                        #10.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                        tony - soooooo accurate!

                        • 8 votes
                        #10.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:41 PM EDT

                        Hardworking people of all colors and faiths attend Republican ralllies..

                        Non-working government dependents of all colors and faiths, mostly union members, attend Democrat rallies....

                        • 4 votes
                        #10.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

                        Bob in Virginia,

                        Sorry about your sprained ankle...

                        I am sure Romney will be back in VA so you can go to a rally.

                        I loved seeing Obama in person three times in 2008.

                        All three time there were 20-30 thousand people waiting in line that streched through downtown MPLS and then again in St. Paul.

                        People of all ages, color, walks of life , even the cops were in a happy mood.

                        In the meantime, I am sure you have never been to an Obama rally.

                        So why the snarky comment?

                        It is Sunday, relax.

                        • 5 votes
                        #10.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

                        Bob you republicans sure have a hard time accepting that liberals work and earn money and just aren't as stingy as the republicans.

                        I just voted to increase my property taxes for better schools and for taking care of our local firemen. It passed because I live in a liberal area that cares more for people than protecting our greed.

                        Try loving America more than your greed, you will feel good too, Bob.

                        • 8 votes
                        #10.9 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

                        Hardworking people of all colors and faiths attend Republican ralllies..

                        Prove it, Bob. Show photos of a Republican crowd at a rally and I'll wager that 99% are white and that 80% of those are over the age of 50. That doesn't go with the national averages, so whose attempting to pull a fast one?

                        Non-working government dependents of all colors and faiths, mostly union members, attend Democrat rallies....

                        Yea, right. Young, diverse and I'll bet that 75% don't belong to a union. With that said, it proves you know nothing about Democrats other than what you hear on FOX Noise. If that's all you've got, you've lost already.

                        • 5 votes
                        #10.10 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:25 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Ryan's only private sector experience is being a 'marketing consultant' for his family's business. He has been a legislative aide, a speech writer and a member of congress. And although his wealth does not approach that of Romney (who's does?) he is not a member of your basic main stream middle class.

                        Ryan and Romney seem to be two peas in a pod with Romney's pod a lot bigger.

                        • 7 votes
                        Reply#11 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

                        "Hi, I'm Mitt Romney and I lie a lot..I'll say what I think will get me votes."

                        "Hi I'm Paul Ryan and I hate seniors, I'm a Christian and I follow the teachings of a professed Atheist"

                        There, I just summed up the burnishings.

                        • 15 votes
                        Reply#12 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

                        Joe, I love the translation. Simple English for simple minds.

                        • 9 votes
                        #12.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

                        In unison

                        "Hi, we're Mitt Romney ad Paul Ryan and we will do what our masters, the Koch Brothers and Grover Norquist, tell us to do. So all of you common folk, bend over and spread 'em because you're going to get railed!"

                        • 10 votes
                        #12.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:29 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Oh yeah, that bill of Paul Ryan's to privatize social security went SO FAR! And the voucher idea for medicare, let's see him get that done. He was instrumental in making compromise on the budget deficit in 2011 impossible. He was certainly one of the deal killers on that. But, if you like far out Austrian economists, he's your guy. For a brave new world, vote Romney-Ryan. Because the self-reliant don't need medicare or social security. Yeah baby, get rid of that crap. It's only for the grasshoppers who didn't make provisions for themselves like the good ants. And, if you happen to get raped, get tough and bear that child. You know, I'm sure Romney really agrees with all of this stuff. You don't think his right wing advisers actually pressured him into a decision, do you? That could not happen to an iron willed Romney, certainly not. He wouldn't cave to the Wall Street Journal, would he?

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#13 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:20 PM EDT

                        Beyond Democrat.

                        You can't compromise when the other side puts NOTHING on the table. There has been NO budget proposals even in committee from any Democrat EXCEPT Obama.

                        Senator McConnell manage twice to get Obama's proposed budget to the floor twice, where the Budget was voted down by both parties resoundingly.

                          #13.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

                          DB Akron:

                          Budgets mean nothing. And why waste political capital when you know McConnell hates your guts. (And McConnell does hate Obama - or at least acts like it every chance he gets.) There are revenue bills and there are spending bills. They either balance or they don't. George W. Bush's 2009 budget (fiscal year 2009 began October 1, 2008) was already scored with a trillion dollar deficit when Obama took office. Since the GOP wants to raise defense spending and wants to decrease revenues, big deficits continued. That is not rocket science. There have been no tax increases, but the federal civilian work force is the smallest it has been in decades. The ten million unemployed who got their pink slips between December 2007 and November of 2009 saddled Obama with a huge burden for unemployment insurance. That is also not rocket science. Also, when the economic growth for the last quarter of 2008 and the first quarter of 2009 was astronomically negative, that also affects tax revenues. That is also not rocket science. Fighting wars (that you did not start) is also expensive. The payroll tax cut, agreed to by all sides, to stimulate the economy was expensive. Again, all of that is not hard to grasp.

                          W. in the mid-2000's just took social security off of the books and borrowed from social security to close the huge hole his wars put into the budget. At least Obama did not continue that deceitful practice.

                          Obama knows based upon his experience with the health care law, the stimulus bill, and his latest attempt at a jobs bill, that McConnell compromises on NOTHING. McConnell promised to compromise on nothing and he has delivered. His latest insult has been to stop all federal judge approvals in this last legislative year of Obama's term. He delayed the appointment of many undersecretaries to Obama's cabinet. He killed Obama's choice for the new consumer advocacy position (Elizabeth Warren). Remember that most of this is being accomplished by extraordinary filibusters.

                          You put something on the table and the GOP takes a crap on it, and then you become very coy about what you put on the table. That's the real world, DB.

                          • 3 votes
                          #13.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:10 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          I think Rick Santorum said it best:

                          SAN ANTONIO (AP) — Presidential candidate Rick Santorum on Thursday said Republicans should give President Barack Obama another term if Santorum isn’t the GOP nominee and for a second day compared rival Mitt Romney to an Etch A Sketch toy.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#14 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:21 PM EDT
                          Comment author avatarKanninExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                          William - Do you have any idea where the "Etch-a-Sketch" insult actually originated or are you just vomiting back left-wing slogans that some other idiot fed you? Here are the facts:

                          Romney's communications director Eric Fehrnstromon referred to the shift from a primary campaign to a presidential campaign by saying "I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch-A-Sketch" Of course, Romney's opponents immediately pretended the remark had some significance.

                          Contrast this with Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor and mentor for 20 years saying, “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”

                          Intelligent people will recognize that the "etch-sketch" comment is a cute analogy by one of Romney's campaign workers; while saying that AIDS is a means of genocide against Blacks. represents a core belief that Obama has absorbed.

                          • 4 votes
                          #14.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:59 PM EDT

                          kannin - your ignorance is rampant in your last paragraph - and disgusting. My guess is you actually claim to be human - yet you're far from it. What a pitiable excuse for a human being you are. But, a good little Republican!

                          Obama/Biden 2012

                          • 11 votes
                          #14.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:14 PM EDT

                          Seeking - I appreciate it when you attack me, rather than my arguments. It is your clear admission that my post is entirely accurate, and that you have no valid counter to any part of it.

                          • 3 votes
                          #14.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

                          kannin - no actually it was your final paragraph and nothing you say is accurate. Your final paragraph said everything about you as a person and you prove you belong in the gutter with Romney.

                          If you think your final paragraph is something a person of value would be proud to post - that says it all about you - nothing good!

                          Obama/Biden 2012

                          • 10 votes
                          #14.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:26 PM EDT

                          Another personal attack; another admission that you are firing blanks.

                          Obama's attendance at Wright's church may not be proof of my statement. The proof is the fact that he brought his infant daughters to be exposed every week of their lives as they were growing up to sermons like this: "Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain't! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty." or this, "Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."

                          I think that children raised with a continuous diet of hate speech like that are doomed to a life of distrust and hatred. I feel sorry for them.

                          • 4 votes
                          #14.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

                          kannin - amazingly stupid on your part. Republicans voted in large numbers for Bill Clinton and most would vote for him again over any Republican you could run.

                          You don't know how to post anything truthful. I feel sorry for you!

                          Obama/Biden 2012

                          • 10 votes
                          #14.6 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                          SS - More insults and irrelevancy. You must be a Democrat.

                          • 2 votes
                          #14.7 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

                          Rob in Ma, Brockton Barlow, and now Kannin. How many pseudonyms do you use? And why is it that in everyone of them you get scorched and still think you made some inane, ingermane point and then you publicly pat yourself on the back for your superior debate skills? What a poor, pathetic little troll. I guess your mom and dad didn't provided you with enough affirmation. Do us all a favor; go to the living room now and ask them for some.

                          • 5 votes
                          #14.8 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:54 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          You can't make any money in the military,They avoid any real confrontation in their lives.They will lead with going along with the TEA Party agenda and be two puppets for Rove and the rest of the Republican big money and war mongers.The Hell with the middle class and the poor.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#15 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:23 PM EDT

                          Robme and Ryan. New BFFs burnishing each other. Get a room already.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#16 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                          Kudos to Vice President Biden, who was very gracious in welcoming Paul Ryan to the national ticket and complimented him personally.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#17 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                          Yeah, I caught that... Pretty classy, ya gotta give VP Biden that!

                          • 7 votes
                          #17.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:31 PM EDT

                          Biden was begging for mercy when the debates begin.

                            #17.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                            Biden was begging for mercy when the debates begin.

                            You might actually be somewhat correct...he was wondering how he was going to get through a debate with Sarah "Know Nothing" Palin, who didn't always want to respond to the questions the moderator put to both of them, but instead, only what she wanted to talk about. Turned out to be a complete fiasco for the McCain ticket.

                            Most people, like Biden, when faced with the likely possibility of being pared with someone so lacking in knowledge and, subsequently, irrelevant as Palin, probably would have begged for mercy too.

                            You also might possibility remember, Thinking Long Term, that the McCain brain trust decided that after her debacle of a performance, that was the only debate they wanted her to do. Very easy to understand why.

                            Personally, I've always been grateful to them for that decision so as to spare the rest of us from another infliction of Palin.

                              #17.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:02 PM EDT

                              Please Gaffe a minute Joe barely handled that twit (I believe they called it a draw) and this time is over matched.

                              This is going to be a really big "F" ing deal.

                                #17.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:25 PM EDT

                                He didn't have to "handle that twit" at all. She was more than capable of destroying whatever aura the McCain team had with her selection...and she ran into a wall. Too bad McCain's people didn't know that BEFORE the debate...it might never have happened. But watching her duck the questions asked of her was comedy. In hindsight, that "winky" thing didn't come off all that well.

                                A "draw"? That "they" you speak of is only in the minds of the right wing faithful.

                                Let's just wait and see how Ryan handles the tough questions about his "plan" that he, so far, hasn't bothered to spell out.

                                  #17.5 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:10 AM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  The fact is seniors vote and the Ryan pick just guaranteed Florida for Obama.

                                  So if Obama has FL., CA., NY, NJ, and Illinois locked up, other than Texas what big numbers does R/R have??

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#18 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                                  Do you think old people are so stupid that they no longer get the notion that you can't spend more money than you make? Do you think they are so senile that the FACT that any reforms to medicare that Ryan is proposing won't affect anyone under 55? Do you think the greatest generation is so out of it that they want this country to go down the socialist path Obama is advocating for?

                                  My mother is 85. She backs Romney because she has more on the ball than the liberal left gives her credit for.

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #18.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                                  MOMINNJ,

                                  You are right,Ryan plan does not affect your 85 yr old mother. But is she willing to have you, her daughter, receive a coupon when you reach 65 for your medical insurance?

                                  Or are you over 55?

                                  Fact: Ryan plan for Medicare is not reform.

                                  It is a plan to destroy,not reform, the program and substitute a voucher payment to use to go out and find coverage on your own.

                                  Included in Ryan's plan is Medicare part D, the drug plan which right now under ACA is shrinking the donut hole. He want to repeal the whole ACA law which is helping your mother and anyone on Medicare today.

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #18.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

                                  The republicans are sure cold-hearted.

                                  Grandma is suppost to vote for Romney with the ideal that I got mine and f my kids and grandkids?

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #18.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:10 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  Probability of Reaching 270

                                  Democrats
                                  93%

                                  Republicans
                                  6%

                                  Neither (Tie)
                                  < 1%

                                  These probabilities are based on current polls for the unselected (tan color) states in the above map. Each time you click a state, the percentages will dynamically update. These numbers are not meant as a future projection of the election, but should be interpreted as: "If the election were today, and if the current polls in each state are an unbiased reflection of the voters' intentions, what is the likelihood that each candidate will reach 270 electoral votes based on the unselected (tan states) in the above map?" For more on how we calculate these probabilities, click here.

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#19 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:29 PM EDT

                                  Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

                                  Romney expands lead to 5% - Obama support drops to 43%

                                  The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 43%. Five percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. See tracking history.

                                  Yesterday morning, Romney named Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan to be his vice presidential running mate....

                                  Romney/Ryan 2012!!! LEADERSHIP FOR A CHANGE!!! Yeah Baby!!!

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #19.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:31 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  Ryan also accused the Obama team of being "more worried about their next election than they are about the next generation."

                                  Wow! Ryan's good! Frequently presidential candidates will pick a doofus like Biden as their running mate to so they can look good by comparison. Other times they will pick a VP just to bring in a particular segment of the electorate, as with Walter Mondale's choice of Geraldine Ferraro. The fact that Romney has chosen Ryan shows that he has a great deal of self confidence. More importantly, it shows that he is assembling a top-notch management team. As a businessman, he realizes that a tough challenge, like undoing Obama's mischief, will take the very highest quality team to accomplish.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  Reply#20 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:48 PM EDT

                                  By implementing the same policies that got us into this mess??!! More tax cuts for the wealthy, and less regulation...yeah... that's progress.

                                    #20.1 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:18 AM EDT
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                                    The choice of Paul Ryan might just put the Republican's majority in the House in jeopardy. His plan is out there - on the record. He wanted to privatize social security and he wants to make medicare a voucher system. (However, medicare voucher proposal 2.0 would give seniors a choice - the voucher or traditional medicare). Guess what the wealthy healthy seniors will choose. You got it baby, they will take their $10,000 and run to luxury policies that they supplement with their own income. That will leave the poor and the sick to live off of the remaining medicare funds. They will be left with the bath water. But, hey why would anybody want to share anything with anybody in this country? Live free or die - exactly. Now, that at its logical extreme is a Republican slogan. But, for some, that kind of freedom "ain't worth nothing but it's free." (Apologies to Kris Kristofferson.) When you are 70 with diabetes, that just means you can DIE. When you are the child of unemployed parents, that just means you can DIE (Because they are going to destroy medicaid too.) But, social programs are the creation of those that give a damn. If you don't give a damn, governing is easy. The math gets better as more people just fall off of the grid.

                                    But think about this, before Teddy Roosevelt busted the trusts and Woodrow Wilson established the income tax (entirely on the wealth by the way), was this a great country? Sure, we had some good ideas, but were we a great country? No, we only became great when local, state and federal government began to make sure that resources were provided to the Tiny Tims and Pips in what was a Dickensian world. FDR and LBJ finished the job and the way of life FOR ALL AMERICANS continued to get better. Up until the 20th Century, life was pretty bitter for the also rans. Are we going back to that?

                                    • 8 votes
                                    Reply#21 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

                                    Up until the 20th Century, life was pretty bitter for the also rans. Are we going back to that?

                                    Many of Romney's financial backers and supporters want exactly that. They look back with fond memories of the days when the likes of the Rockerfellers, Carnegie's and JP Morgans literally owned this country lock, stock and barrel. Most people owned nothing but the clothes on their back and were worried about replacing them when they wore out. And forget medical care. If you, or your spouse or children got sick, they simply died. If you were lucky to have a job from one of these robber barons, you dare not speak out lest you find yourself black balled and unable to find anything else, anywhere in this country. And the conditions of that employment were at best, horrible. Starvation wages and a deadly unsafe environment plus the use of child labor. Yes, great time to be alive.

                                    • 10 votes
                                    #21.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:14 PM EDT
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                                    Obama never held a real job and had no foriegn policy experience. In spite of this, his supporters have the nerve to claim Romney and Ryan's resumes are thin?

                                    Amazing in it's stupidity.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#22 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                                    Obama Lies - Amazing in it's stupidity - I'm talking about your post!

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #22.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

                                    Are all your posts this articulate and insightful?

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #22.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

                                    Obama Lies - amazingly they're heads above yours!

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #22.3 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

                                    WOW! An even more clever post!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #22.4 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

                                    ss is a seven year old.

                                    At least in intelligence.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #22.5 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                                    What's amazing is your lack of knowledge, but I've come to expect this from Republicans...carry on.

                                      #22.6 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:16 AM EDT
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                                      New Campaign Slogan

                                      Ryan Budget = Lots of pain for the middle class and lots of gain for rich.

                                      • 8 votes
                                      Reply#23 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

                                      Romney and Ryan did get a bounce.

                                      The newest research from Nate has it as:
                                      Today

                                      “Obama chance of winning 71.6% Romney 28.4%”

                                      Projected Winner Obama 303.6

                                      Projected Loser Romney 234.4

                                      • 7 votes
                                      Reply#24 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:05 PM EDT

                                      yawn.

                                      Your going to look even sillier in November.

                                        #24.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:21 PM EDT
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                                        Seems like Romney and Ryan are more worried about their images rather than solutions. Their failures can be overlooked if they have a good plan but to tax and cut budgets is not a plan but a burden to our society. It is like "I am to lazy to budget money so I will charge people more and cut their programs". That is NOT a solution just fuzzy math to make the parrots sqwak while pissing in everyones nest.

                                        • 8 votes
                                        Reply#25 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

                                        Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

                                        Romney expands lead to 5% - Obama support drops to 43%

                                        The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 43%. Five percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. See tracking history.

                                        Yesterday morning, Romney named Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan to be his vice presidential running mate....

                                        Romney/Ryan 2012!!! LEADERSHIP FOR A CHANGE!!! Yeah Baby!!!

                                        • 4 votes
                                        Reply#26 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

                                        Led down the Bush path? Yeah hurt me again!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #26.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                                        More dribble down sir, may I have another.......... depression/foreclosure/job loss?

                                        Take a budget surplus, turn that into a huge deficit, 2 unfunded wars and a drug plan to benefit the drug companies and then blame Democrats for the depression, BRILLIANT strategy...............winners 1% of the population..........losers most of us 99%.

                                        May I have another, I love pain!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #26.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:41 PM EDT

                                        You're so delusional...I almost feel sorry for you.

                                          #26.3 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:14 AM EDT
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