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The Romney campaign continued its effort today to paint President Obama as someone who cannot to be trusted, who will "say or do anything" to be elected.
The latest salvo came in a TV ad, attempting to tie Obama to a separate controversial outside group’s ad.
The Romney ad, which questions Obama’s “character,” hinges on the claim that "his campaign tries to use the tragedy of a woman's death for political gain."
The ad in question, which has not actually aired anywhere, features a man named Joe Soptic, who blames Romney for the loss of his job and his health care, and leaves the impression that those factors contributed to his wife’s death from cancer.
"What does it say about a president’s character when his campaign tries to use the tragedy of a woman's death for political gain?" an announcer charges in an ad released today by the Romney campaign that it says will be running on air. It declined to say in which states, but it rarely shares ad-buy information.
"What does it say about a president's character when he had his campaign raise money for the ad, then stood by, as his top aides were caught lying about it," the ad continues. "Doesn't America deserve better than a president who will say or do anything to stay in power?" Then the standard kicker: "I'm Mitt Romney, and I approve this message."
First, it should be pointed out that the ad in question has been widely discredited, called out of bounds, crossing a line, misleading, and more.
Second, the ad the Romney campaign references is run by Priorities USA, an outside group -- not the Obama campaign.
Yes, the lines between the campaign and this outside group are blurry. Soptic has previously appeared in an Obama campaign ad.
Further, Obama campaign officials denied having any knowledge of the story of Soptic’s wife -- despite the fact that Soptic had told the story on an Obama campaign conference call. In addition, Priorities USA is run by a former Obama White House official and 2008 campaign spokesman.
As we pointed out this morning in First Thoughts, the Obama campaign would probably demand an apology from Romney for a similar ad.
In fact, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney decried an outside group that was considering running an ad campaign that would have invoked Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor.
"I think there are moments when you have to stand up and say that that's not the right way to go," Carney said back in May.
For the record, Romney did. “I want to make it very clear, I repudiate that effort,” Romney said at the time. “I think it’s the wrong course for a PAC or a campaign.”
All that's true. But this ad doesn't call for Obama to denounce the Priorities ad; it attempts to tie him to it. To this point, there has been no evidence Obama or the Obama campaign directed Priorities to run the ad.
The Romney ad also claims Obama "had his campaign raise money for the ad."
That's a stretch. Yes, Obama has encouraged donors to give money to Priorities, but there's no evidence he asked them specifically to raise money for this ad.
The ad then says, "...his top aides were caught lying about it." That assumes the premise that aides were raising money specifically for the ad. But there’s no evidence of that, either.
If there was a "caught lying," it wasn't about raising money, it was about a campaign official not knowing Soptic's story. There is evidence that the campaign did have knowledge of the story, because of the campaign conference call he participated in.
The ad also then makes the jump that the president will "say or do anything," when, in this case, part of the problem -- perception-wise for Obama -- is that he hasn't said or done anything at all.
He hasn't denounced the ad, and there's no evidence that he told anyone to run this or that he thinks running it is a good idea or in bounds – though Republicans would say since he hasn’t denounced it, it’s a silent endorsement. And there will likely continue to be pressure on him and his team to denounce it.
As far as coordination, since the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling, both campaigns are walking in the mud.
While there are ample connections between the Obama White House, campaign, and Priorities USA, there are at least as many between Romney, Restore Our Future, and Crossroads, including top strategists who worked for Romney in the past as well as others who were invited to his Utah retreat for a political briefing.
It's also ironic that the Romney campaign is crying foul on coordination, considering the connections, but also because when this ad hit this reporter's inbox -- at 12:49 pm ET -- it was just 12 minutes after a video slamming Obama on the same subject produced by American Crossroads (below). The Crossroads ad even uses Richard Nixon-era White House counsel John Dean telling Nixon, "There's a cancer within-- close to the presidency that's growing. It's growing daily."
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Definition of irony: The Romney campaign continued its effort today to paint President Obama as someone who cannot to be trusted, who will "say or do anything" to be elected.
We can all thank the activist judges on the SCOTUS for giving us Citizens United!
Let's give them a big round of applause for bringing us the worst decision in modern history!
Of course, Team Willard wants to talk about ANYTHING except his tanking poll number and the tax returns he has hidden!
PS: All of this hoopla over a web-ad!
Distract - Deflect - Dodge & Distract = GNOP playbook!
Not to worry, next week they'll shake up the etch-a-sketch again and Romney will be all for it
Where's Willards siblings?....Bet they have plenty to say about their youngest sibling!
PRICELESS coming from Mr.Etch-A-Sketch himself!
He's accomplished more flips & flops then the entire USA girls gymnastic team!
chilled - he has siblings???? I'm sure he was found under a cabbage leaf and he is one of a kind. (Okay, I actually HOPE he is one of a kind)!
Feisty - yes he has but he only got 2's on each of his! The man just can't do ANYTHING right!
Feisty...at it again...how's work coming today? Looks like you been up to your usual trolling again all day.
You clearly must have plenty of time on your hands by the sheer volume of posts you make in any given day. Its truly unbelievable how much time you must waste...do you need a job? We are hiring but you would have to work....not sure that word is in your vocabulary.
A mormon family with only one kid? Isn't that blasphemy or something to them?
E. Deboo - I'm sure you had to look up the definition of work. Why are you so worried about what Feisty does?
Seeking Sanity...no, that was taught to me by my father. I'm not concerned with what Feisty does...simply making a comment/observation. For the record, I started a small business in 2002 and currently provide jobs to 16 wonderful people....both democrat and republican...I think I might know a little about hard work....but it doesn't involve spending near the amount of time spent on this site as some people do.
Pretty much Detroit-Storm! They need to get all those celestial babies here and properly assigned so they can be their serfs when they get to their personal planet of Kolob. (no, I'm not making it up!)
Seeking,
Ignore Doobie, his idea of work is taking the time to sit down and write me nasty emails, when he's not trying to hump my leg... lol
Take a look at his comment history! lol
Another pet troll to add to my ever growing collection! I'm going to need a bigger cage!
*yawn*
BFD!
This is the part where he's begging for an "atta-boy"!
*double-yawn*
There is a word to define Romney's reaction to the supposed advertising (remember the ad has NOT been run) by the Obama supporting PAC, its called chutzpah. Nothing else truly captures the degree of arrogant self interest which ignores the rest of the world.
American Cross Roads has yet to have any of there Ad's to be proven false...cant say that for 90% of the liberals Ad's and super pac's!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qymIXlcO3JY
Truth hurts- refer to MItt as a a flip flooper or what you desire- but Obama is really not that much better. But lets talk about tax returns that are NOT REQUIRED to be disclosed by LAW. Hmmm not disclosing docs- and the dems are complaining about it- laughable hypocrites.
This is one of the methods Marxists use. They lie at will, "for the cause". Then they will issue a low key retraction after the damage has been unjustly done. The whole "release your taxes" push has at least two reasons for it. The first is to divert attention from the total failure of the Obama administration. The second is to encourage class warfare between the successful productive people and the free loaders who have their votes bought by Obama giving them handouts of our tax dollars. Does anyone think the Obama controlled IRS would let Mitt Romney get by with illegally not paying his taxes? It is a personal privacy issue on Romney's part. There is no law requiring him to release any tax records. Why is the media not clamoring about the fact that Obama has spent millions to seal his records from the public? Could it be because he went to college as Barry Soetoro an Indonesian exchange student with his tuition paid by the tax payers of America? He had to be an Indonesian citizen to attend Indonesian schools and he was adopted by his stepfather Mr.Soetoro. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, so he was no longer an American citizen. When and why did he legally change his name? When and how did he regain his American citizenship? Why is Obama hiding his college, passport, and draft board records? Why are people not demanding Obama release these records. He may not have legal right to be president no matter where he was born.
"Romney won’t reveal the details of his tax plan. He won’t take a clear position on immigration reform. He has vowed to repeal Obamacare but won’t say anything specific about what he’d replace it with. He has almost invited the damage he has suffered by refusing to release his tax returns."
Good economic news:
Second Quarter Metro Area Home Prices Rise, Limited Inventory Capping Sales
http://www.realtor.org/news-releases/2012/08/second-quarter-metro-area-home-prices-rise-limited-inventory-capping-sales
The economy is improving no matter what the naysayers have to say. Get to work mittbot spin doctors. Shake that etch-a-sketch extra hard. Better yet, follow Rafalca around and shovel some of that.
So, who the hell cares? Who, besides an utter moron would listen to those ads, much less be influenced one iota by them? Anybody in this discussion want to actually admit to paying any attention to them?
Feisty --
Ignore Doobie, his idea of work is taking the time to sit down and write me nasty emails, when he's not trying to hump my leg... lol
Sorry but Redheads are not my thing....would never hump your leg so dont worry.
Another pet troll to add to my ever growing collection! I'm going to need a bigger cage!
You would certainly be there person i would come to if i needed help identifying a troll...you know better than anyone.
This is the part where he's begging for an "atta-boy"!
Not even close...I didn't start this business to get slaps on the back...but what would you know about starting a business...you spend all day here trolling....
And the reason I commented, in the past 2 days, been traveling and catching up on the news...and who do I see commenting and trolling on every single political column but you.
Again, if you too half the time you spend spewing crap our your mouth...maybe you would have and/or keep a job...but keep blaming "W".
Spider- Those ads are not intended for you and me, they are intended for people who don't read for themselves and don't attempt to understand anything beyond the base information. So if there's a simple ad put out that sounds good to them they'll bite on it and regurgitate it ad naseum- even if it's incorrect. They are the catalist to get lies distributed. Once the false info is distributed enough then the masses decide that it "must be true" even if proven otherwise later.
"First, it should be pointed out that the ad in question has been widely discredited, called out of bounds, crossing a line, misleading, and more. Second, the ad the Romney campaign references is run by Priorities USA, an outside group -- not the Obama campaign. Yes, the lines between the campaign and this outside group are blurry. Soptic has previously appeared in an Obama campaign ad. Further, Obama campaign officials denied having any knowledge of the story of Soptic’s wife -- despite the fact that Soptic had told the story on an Obama campaign conference call. In addition, Priorities USA is run by a former Obama White House official and 2008 campaign spokesman."
This is a fascinating piece from MSNBC- Notice how they start criticizing the Romney campaign for their accusing the President's campaign of blatant, misguiding ads and then- after a while- note that the ad was deemed offensive by both campaigns, that the person in the ad was used in another campaign, and the PAC was run by a former WH staffer. You see, they knowingly set up the article so that a person whom only reads the first paragraph or two decides one way, then give other points that make a difference so that they can claim that they are unbiased.
Just read an article in the NYT's about how the 400 wealthiest individuals in America paid an average of 19% of their income in taxes, and six of the ultrarich paid zero federal taxes. Zero. Now, I know Republicans are critical of people making $20,000 a year paying zero percent, but zero percent on an income of $202 million?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/business/in-the-superrich-clues-to-romneys-tax-returns-common-sense.html?hp
Romney doesn't need outside groups to drag himself down into the mud. He's been wallowing in the mud like a contented hog for the entire campaign, starting with his doctored video of Obama quoting a McCain aide who said "if we talk about the economy, we'll lose." Then there was the lie about how Obama is blocking military service members from voting when the truth is that the Obama campaign is trying to get early voting extended in Ohio (to reinstate early voting as it had been in 2008). The most recent lie about Obama handing out welfare checks to people who won't work was the most vicious lie yet, and was clearly intended to stir up white racial resentment.
And those weren't some outside groups. He's Mitt Romney and he approved that crap.
Yeah Amy B....did you also read the one where General Electric didn't pay any taxes for a year based on even more profits? Have you even researched it and made yourself aware of the companies and news organizations that GE owns? The parties they contribute to? Just figured by your failure to mention it that you was'nt aware of such knowledge. I understand now.
Has anyone else noticed that when President Obama pushes back, and pushes back hard - the media complains? I remember when everyone was telling Barack Obama back in '08 to get tougher, to hit back hard. And when he did, everyone in the media whined.
For the last 4 years this president has been faced with racism, a Republican Party who had no intention of working with him and now voter suppression. It was demanded of him that he show his GD birth certificate. Now they are demanding his college records.
No president has been treated like this, ever.
Mitt Romney has lied from Day One. He has decided that he answers to no one. We have a media on Sunday mornings who we all know invite way more Republicans on than Democrats. The GOP sit there, Sunday after Sunday bashing the president with no push back from the moderators. Most of these programs are hour long blatant lies.
And all this time, the media sits silent, UNTIL the president pushes back and then they cry foul.
We are going to get our president re-elected, without the media.
And if they dislike his ads, too bad. We have been begging the media to address voter suppression, racism, the birth certificate issues and so on.
Silence is what we have received for the most part.
Thank you Rev. Al, Martin Bashir, Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell.
Anyone else I forgot? Yes, Steve Benen, Charles Pierce, David Corn, Think Progress, Media Matters, The Obama Diary.
And I noticed that when people come out to see either the President or First Lady, no one in those audiences are depressed. They are happy and inspired. Because there is no go between between them and the First Couple.
People like Barack and Michelle Obama and are supporting them. They don't like Mitt or the media.
Those are the facts.
Keep the ads coming. I guess their working and the media doesn't like it. After all, they benefit a democrat and not the rich republican.
Fiesty said,
We can all thank the activist judges on the SCOTUS for giving us Citizens United!
Let's give them a big round of applause for bringing us the worst decision in modern history!
No, the worst decision was upholding
mandatetax in Obamacare... period!Then dumbfux said,
"Distract - Deflect - Dodge & Distract"
Your are kidding right??? I have not seen one Obama ad that is postive all that I've seen are ads that Romney is a felon, tax cheat and a murderer...
You are so full of sh-t your breath stinks!!
pathetic just pathetic
Mitt also approved the lying message regarding this latest Romney add on welfare.
Mitt Romney is a lying scum bag that should never be allowed near the White House even if he paid to take the tour.
Congratulations USA on a great Olympics. Evidently London was ready but Anne's horse wasn't.
HA, the outside groups didn't have to drag Mitt Romney's campaign into the mud, he's been stuck in the muck since he started running mud-sling ads against his GOP opponents. The majority of Romney's own ads with him saying "I'm Mitt Romney and I approved this message" are blatant mud-slinging lies and Mitt dares to question President Obama's character.
4 more for 44!
Those ads are working just fine, Pat
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
Take a look at the Obama tracking. Those numbers are from the last three days- so, this controversy was front and center in the minds of those interviewed.
Six point swing.
George Douglas - when you start with your nonsense, it's not even worth reading. Get a clue and try to buy a life because you clearly aren't living one.
E Deboo - if you're not fascinated by Feisty, why bring it up? IF you have a company and 16 employees, you probably have better things to do than fixate on Feisty, right?
Sheish!
no joe, as a Republican don't you talk to me about ads.
Your party is one big lying ad machine. And you approve ALL their messages. Every single lie.
Pat - no joe is one big LIE!
SeekingSanity, yes she is and she fits right in with the Republican Party. If I were a Republican and I saw my party not willing to work with the President of the United States, and then demanding his birth certificate?
I would have kissed them goodbye. But not nojoe. That's her party. She's one of them.
Has anyone else noticed that when President Obama pushes back, and pushes back hard - the media complains?
Pat: This is a Karl Rove strategy. In the past, we had Democrats "apologizing"to the GOP for something that they said. That is why a real hero like John Kerry lost the election.
He should have never apologized to those red necks for ANYTHING.
Kudos to President Obama for not backing down on the comments. The GOP is the party that feels that they can dish it out, but can't take it, and DEMANDS an apology every time.
The pigs deserve to bathe in the mud.
Seeking -
Certainly not fascinated....like I said earlier, just an observation...am I not allowed to make one? Seems as if its OK for you and Feisty to make as many as you please but no one else allowed an opinion.
Also, if you would like to know more about my business, email me and I would be happy to share some details. You and Fiesty both seem like fairly reason able people, just because we may not agree on everything, doesn't mean we can't have a civil conversation.
Is the media reporting this?
Think Progress:
Ohio has introduced a new tactic in their broader attempts to make it even harder for Democratic voters to get to the polls this year. Early voting stations in Ohio’s heavily Democratic counties will only be open between 8 am and 5 pm, while Republican counties have expanded their hours to allow voting on nights and weekends.
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Is this the democracy the media wants?
Jon R-469000 -- Ain't that the truth. I've never seen such repeated blatant Projection Politics in my life as the Romney campaign.
Or surrogates like Limbaugh and Trump both bloviating ignoramuses who think demanding birth certificates and college records are on par with Romney not releasing his tax returns -- False Equivalency at it's most ridiculous.
All of Romney's opponents in the Massachusetts' race for governor released years of returns, and not only did Romney refuse to release any (not even 1-2 years partial, sanitized "flukes" like he's released now), but he demanded the tax returns of his opponent's spouse!
The old "I'm rubber, you're' glue" ploy is such an insult to voter's intelligence (another claim he's made about the president in an attempt to turn the tables), but I wouldn't be surprised if Romney escalated his lies that the president is "out-of-touch" to claiming the president needs to release more than 8-12 years returns/financials.
Have YOU no decency Romney? No wonder no one likes you. Release your damn returns going back at least 8 years including 2008-2009 you shyster!
alexandr1 -- Hahaha, in your Newt's moon base world. First prove who backed the "cancer" ad, then prove that it is not having an affect. Just because you say so doesn't make it so.
The GOP is preparing to strike in the dirtiest of ways: By suppressing the votes of Democrats.
There has never been electoral fraud in this country, but the GOP is desperate, and they will make sure that they suppress the Democratic vote under the new Id laws, even when most of them are unconstitutional.
Don't be surprised if the GOP wins!
IRespond, absolutely! The media always follow the GOP talking points. Always. Look at Fox News. Look at the lies they have been peddling for years.
Look at what happened to Howard Dean.
I remember Rachel doing a segment on today's Republican Party.
She said that they were going to support those who were not strong on foreign policy, but rather whether or not they are pro-choice. And I suppose pro-gun.
Pathetic.
I noticed, Pat!
I've also noticed no other campaign in recent memory has whined about the media more than Team Willard!
Even though it has been documented, he has received more favorable treatment by them than the President!
@George Douglas
People like you amuse me to no end. Tell us George, you're so smart you should know. How did PRESIDENT Obama manage to outsmart the Secret Service, FBI, CIA, NSA and every other security arm of this government when they vetted him. Are they all easily duped? The only dupe in this room is you George. You keep believing those ignorant chain emails the tea party lives for that have not one bit of truth to them. You are the perfect stooge for them George. Uninformed and not too bright.
[no joe, as a Republican don't you talk to me about ads.]
Hey, wait just a gosh darned minute! NoJo is a Republican today?
The same LIBBIE NoJo that was a Hillary supporter?
Or is she just doing what she does best: LIE
Good old LIBBIE NoJo...
Dennis - GREAT post! Bet George doesn't answer!!!!
Definitely a case of the pot calling the kettle black. No pun intended.
Hah! Hah! you pathetic Republican Clowns and you Right-wing wacko Teabaggers.
You might as well stay Home come this November 2012.
You're Not just LOSING.
You've already LOST.
Too bad, how sad, I'm glad.
How do I know?
Well, 1st I'm a Republican, or I should say I was Once a Republican.
But since the Unhonorable and UnManly Mitt Romney became the GOP candidate, I can No longer support my Party, and will be Voting a straight Democratic ticket, come this November 2012.
I know all Policemen Unions and Firemen Unions, and Teacher Unions, and all Women, and all the Mexican and Gay community, and all People of Color will be Voting a straight Democratic ticket, too!
Must see video.
Hey white guys!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/10/1118625/-Open-thread-Hey-white-guys
So the Romney campaign wants the Obama ad denounced, then they make an ad about that (as it hasn't been aired yet) to make it public so they can decry it.
On top of that they layer more lies about the President.
Let the mud slinging begin.
it's all good, the more lies Romney tells the further away from the oval office he gets.
Obama is Not afraid to "get down" in the Mud with the frigging Elephants.
Let's just say Obama's Kung-Fu is superior, and Mitt Romney's Kung-fu Stinks.
Obama tactically and strategically is a Much Better fighter than Romney.
Obama's "Mixed Martial Arts" include Brazilian Ju-Jitsu (BJJ), Muy Thai Boxing, Western Boxing, Wrestling, and of course "Ninja Mind Control".
What does Romney have? He's got Nothing. Maybe a little bit of the Queen's English Boxing from the turn of the 19th Century, but that's it.
Chicago style street-politics will always Win over a Liar and a Tax Cheat.
So when an outside group puts up a billboard comparing the President to the Colorado movie killer... Republicans cheer, and go home to pleasure themselves to the image.
When an outside group makes a commercial blaming Bain, and Romney by association, to the death of a woman... Republicans call that "out of line."
So, to reiterate... according to Republicans, a billboard comparing the President to a psychotic killer is great, wonderful and they worship it like the bible. BUT, a commercial associating Romney with the death of a lady is horrible, disgusting and out of line.
Got it, thanks for clearing that up, Republicans.
Guess you forgot the "Willie Horton" ads from Bush I, eh Mitt? That was the epitome of classlessness. The "Joe Soptic" ads aren't even close to those in the muckraking dept. So, man up and show us those tax returns.
There are a lot of things I question about Obama’s character and he DOES do anything for political gain…like leaking info about the Seal Team 6 for instance…
Pat ..... LOVED the video! Thanks for the link!!!
Pat
Brilliant video. Huge shout out to you for that one.
Pat from Beantown----That white guy vid was the best.
To the GOP==-----Why don't you guys just say that the ad was right on ? It is right there with your beliefs that every man and woman should take care of themselves...You know the personal responsibility mantra you beeyotches are always chanting.....Why deny it now? That guy was supposed to pay for his wife's healthcare or she dies right?Society is not supposed to take care of the sick and hungry right ? Why complain when you are called out on it ?
Tax returns Tax returns Tax returns If he has nothing to hide release them....That is the thing they are so damaging it is better to accept the damage of not releasing them........The thing is they have become so much of an issue somebody is going to hack the IRS or someone who works there is gonna release them....If I worked there and was near retirement I would risk my job to do it.....We voters deserve to know...Even though I am a pretty staunch Obama supporter I won't make up my mind until I enter the booth and this is one of the main things that would change my mind....If Mitt gave a very large portion of his income to the poor or invested in American companies that created jobs for working people to feed their families I would see him in a different light and maybe believe him and give him a shot because the GOP blocks everything O does anyway...But I have a feeling he Robin Hood in reverse ROMNEYHOOD
Hmmmm...Whatcha tink a dat teabaggers?
Obama’s job approval rating slipped to 43%, dangerous territory for an incumbent president. Just as tellingly, those who disapprove of the president’s job in office rose to 51%.
Of the last eight incumbent presidents seeking re-election, only one had a job approval rating under 50% in June of his re-election year and won: George W. Bush at 49%.
A big high five for the vids, Pat. ROFL on the one by Louis CK.
Pat Boston -- I'm not sure what the "white guy" video was supposed to show. I could hear stuff like that any time if I just walked to the corner bar and had a few drinks with the regulars. That was just a simple run of the mill "good ole boy". Dime a dozen.
But thanks for posting the link. I laughed. "until next time guys, don't get caught in your
I distinctly remember Romney in an interview this week calling for the elimination of negative ads and just focus on ads that deal specifically with the issues at hand.
THEN HE CREATES THIS AD.
Sad part is this is the 2nd ad where he as taken something and flat out LIED about it (first being the welfare issue). I'm starting to think that he doesn't have anything else negative to use. The economy tactic is losing traction, the debt ceiling debate is a treading water and for the life of me they keep bring up Solyndra and that's not working either.....
What's next? anyone??????anyone?????
Harleychic -
Guess you didn't see the poll that Fox news put out yesterday that states likely voters will vote for Obama 51% over Romney's 40% and that's with a margin of error at +/- 8%. The only poll Romney was a head in by 2% was doing a better job with the economy BUT that falls within the margin of error. I guess you also didn't hear Romney say that Polls mean nothing BUT they weren't saying that 4 months ago when they were ahead or virtually tied.
As the liberal Pat Murphy ad says...
Right now, we need someone who can LEAD, not DIVIDE!
Obama is the great divider!
Guess that Citizens United ruling isn't working out quite how you expected, eh GOP?
Oh really Romney, in case you hadn't heard, the ad was produced by a SCUM SCOTUS supported, and I might add, a SCUM GOP/TP supported SuperPac. Yet another ad produced by the Romney campaign that is full of deceit, lies, falsehoods, and all those other great Romney virtues.
Oh, and hey, Romney, how did that big one-on-one meeting with your SuperPac in SLC go? Endorse any ads in that meeting - or did ya all sit round that big mahogany table and chat about the weather?
Shades of 2004 when the "viet veterans" smeared John Kerry's military service claiming they were not a GOP group.... Opened the door to all kinds of sh-t ads claiming no affiliation with either party. What's good for the Bush/Romney Goose is good for the Obama Gander. But in reality both gooses are cooked books for political infamy. Thank you very much, Supreme Court for making and giving birth to these brilliant "nonillustrous people."
Willard is the youngest of 5 kids. It seems that his siblings are quite a colorful bunch......more like regular folk!....This article is quite revealing!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/30/turning-spotlight-on-mitt-romney-siblings-could-help-humanize-gop-nominee.html
Guess that Citizens United ruling isn't working out quite how you expected, eh GOP?
They thought that the Democrats were only a group of food stamps collectors that could not raise the money to show some ads of their own.
However, Citizens United has only torned apart the people on this country. It should be repealed.
Miss Mittsy is such a whiny little girl. Sadly - when people in business, like Romney, make decisions, there are repercussions. I wouldn't go as far as to say that Romney murdered anyone, but he really should man up (ha-ha) and admit that he did what he had to do to make a buck without any consideration for the "little people" that were effected.
As long as Karl Rove is out of prison, GOP campaigning will be deceitful, hateful and dishonest - regardless of what the Supreme Court does. Let us not forget that Karl Rove had a big role in placing John Roberts on the Supreme Court.
Romney just had a meeting in Aspen, and all his Super Pac chairs were there.
He's saying Obama coordinated when clearly he's doing the same thing himself.
...and Miss Mittsy will be the first to cry and whine when one of his superPAC's tells a huge lie - that he has absolutely no control over what they say or do...
...and now he's pointing his nasty little finger at the President because of something a superPAC says. What a douche...and to think that this is the GOP "cream of the crop".
Would if... at the GOP convention in 2 weeks instead of Romney being elected the delegates vote for Paul. Then maybe all this useless "attack" articles can end and the focus can be put on the country.
Derek---They (the GOP) can't control Paul...So it will never happen..They have their robot(Mitt) to sign whatever their hopeful (to them not me) GOP majority Congress passes(Remember what Grover Norquist said) I would vote for Paul and I am as liberal as they come(So is Ron Paul that is why he didn't win the primary,if he ran as a democrat he would have fared alot better but he still wouldn't win because of the cuts he proposes to social programs which I could live with if he did everything else he says like ending the war on drugs we wouldn't need the Feds to take care of us because people would get paid to work instead of working for what we owe the banks) PEACE POT MICRO-DOT hahahhahhahahahha
It's amazing that - when the GOP is getting hammered by the PACs - NOW they're a problem! Thank you not so Supreme Court!
Does the GOP ever tire of trying to play by a completely different set of rules than everyone else?
Da Noid - a different set of rules IS the GOP set of rules. See????
Pretty effective when you stop using those pesky facts and just make up your own history...but when has Obama done anything different?
Yes the GOP should learn about ethics and honestly from the left wing liberal nut jobs- LOL- do you people hear yourselves?
Rules, like facts, and laws are for the little people, not the Mitt Romney and Queen Ann.
Hasn't she repeatedly made reference to "you people."
Dirp, at least Ann Romney has always been proud of her country...can't say that for all Presidential wives...I mean the Presidents wife...
The only thing Queen Ann is proud of his her husbands money and her fancy-prancy-dancing-horsie. Why he has so much money, she sometimes forgets how rich she is - I mean, doesn't everyone spend $1k on a simple t-shirt?
You may want to do some research of what your first lady spends on her own attire prior to posting a comment about what "Queen Ann" spends and I need not mention that alot of what your first lady spends is on the tax payers dime, not Mitt's
You mean opposed to the $6,800.00 shirt that Michelle Obama was wearing?
Good god man, read more than just this liberal news outlet...you may not agree, but at least you can hear from both sides! In this case you would not have looked so misinformed. Besides, that's the only reason I'm even on DNCNEWS.COM
Not only that but scream bloody murder if anyone else uses similar tactics.
Mark L - the remark by our first lady was NOT what you're quoting.
Jusmorsheep and Mark L - you're either both STUPID or intentionally LYING. Our First Lady's wardrobe is paid for by she and the President - not a penny of taxpayer's money - as it has been for all First Families. So, you're damned liars and morons!
Obama/Biden 2012
Queen Ann is not representing the highest office of the country, thus their wardrobes and costs are not comparable.
Good God man, you sure do look uninformed suggesting Mrs. Obama wear a $2 dollar t-shirt to a State Dinner with foreign dignitaries.
If the Supreme Court was thinking that allowing Super Pacs was going to make the elections a lot more "fair" they were wrong. The Super Pacs have only made the job of President an exclusive job for a multi-millionaire.
Ideas and intelligence went out the window. The Proof is in MITT ROMNEY. A total moron that ridicule the US overseas, just like George W did, and a flip flopper that would say anything to please the masters of the tea party.
We need to repeal Citizens United.
LOL Red!
And a butt-ugly one at that! ;o)
Money can't buy you taste!
They bitch when she wears J. Crew and they bitch when she wears couture!
You can't please these azz-wipes!
Feisty - as we've said, all the money in the world can't buy you class - as the Romney's and their supporters continue to prove!
Obama/Biden 2012
While the pundits in the media debate this ad, the take-away for the public (who hadn't even seen it!) is that Bain Capital shuttered companies, out sourced jobs, and American workers lost their health insurance while Romney made millions.
I really don't get why the Romney campaign thinks publicizing this ad is a winning strategy. Isn't Romney already unlikeable?
I have news for the author. Nobody dragged Obama and Romney into the mud. They are corporatist members of the two factions, they wallow in the mud as rotten fascists do. It is time for a third party presidency. Whichever third party that is, I am not particular to, I only know that I can think of four different candidates I would vote for before I would ever vote for either of those two shills. My biggest regret in my electoral history is the vote I cast for Obama in '08, getting sold on his hope and change BS. The guy is just another corporate crony with no respect for American rights. I will not vote for another interventionist, I will not vote for anyone who does not publicly condemn the failed, criminal war on drugs. I will not vote for anyone who does not support capitalism being allowed to run its course and letting failed businesses die.
No secret today.
Ryan, Romney and their Republican colleagues OPENLY advocate taking funds from the poor, disabled, elderly, retired and sick ~ for the express purpose of shifting $billions to the very wealthy in the form of tax breaks.
Under Mitt Romney's tax plan.
The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center found that Romney's TAX BREAKS FOR MILLIONAIRES would cost us around $86 billion yearly.
But for 95% of Americans who earn less than $200,000 - taxes would be increased.
Under Paul Ryan's plan, austerity for who?
Rep. Ryan (R-WI) also proposes tax cuts heavily skewed to large corporations and the very wealthy:
The Tax Policy Center finds that Ryan's additional tax cuts = $4.6Trillion.
Additionally, both Ryan and Romney want to extend the Bush tax cuts = $5.4 trillion.
TOTAL cost of Ryan's proposal in tax cuts alone = $10 trillion.
While crying about "perils of debt", Paul Ryan gives giant tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations. And like Romney = without conscience, he gouges basic programs like Medicaid, food stamps and Pell Grants to pay for them. The Ryan plan, endoresed by Mitt Romney, puts an even bigger burden on low and middle income earners via lethal blows to Medicare.
RomneyRyan's self-interest extends to giving themselves and their rich friends more $millions with which to buy up our elections, subvert our democracy ~ and install a government that reflects their 'vision' for us of more work for less pay, no safety nets, no environmental protections, no voice and no recourse for ordinary Americans.
Obama ad hits Romney over 'Son of Boss' tax avoidance scheme
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/09/1118374/-Obama-ad-hits-Romney-over-Son-of-Boss-tax-avoidance-scandal
Here's a photo of Sheldon Adelson sitting at a Marriott owned hotel... did Romney engineer the same tax dodge for Adelson and Trump?
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/SheldonAdelson.jpg
Romney = Sleazy.
Finally, when the Democrats decide to fight back against the tea partiers campaign now all of a sudden the campaign is going into the mud. Well where were you when the other Democrats lost their reelection bids because of the dirty campaign run by the Repubicans in 2010?
I think the Democrats should stand up and show the American public that they can throw a punch as hard as they can take one. Don't trust Romney's whiming because its all a part of his game plan. Remember he has all that money setting in the account from all those billionaires so he is just waiting - do not trust this man.
Where were you when the tea partiers ran those ads against the Democrats in 2010 and cause all the Democrats to lose their seats. I think that the Democrats should take no prisoners. Take them down - destory their playbook and remind them that this is a Democracy not a dictatorship.
I personally like the Romneyhood caricature. Nothing muddy there, just funny as heck. And gets to the point with humor, not fear or anger. Obama should do more like that.
Nice serial killer photo dude...not enough in the welfare check to get a pic at JCPenney huh?
Send me your address? I might be down at the bottom of my list and need some more candidates.
Actually I be retired. I live in Perú. And I need nothing of your welfare. I even gave up my medicare. Will you when you reach my age? Doubt it. Always stood on my own two feet.
If you don't like my post you would be better served to respond to it instead of showing your ignorance with feeble efforts at personal attacks.
But come on, be honest. Didn't you find that caricature of Romneyhood in his cute little Peter Pan hat with a feather sticking out a little amusing? I certainly did.
"What does it say about a president’s character when his campaign tries to use the tragedy of a woman's death for political gain?" an announcer charges in an ad released today by the Romney campaign"
So this is what it's come down to - running ads about other ads?
But since we are.....what does it say about Romney's character when his campaign tries to use the tragedy of a teenage girl's drug addiction for political gain and to paint Romney as some kind of hero? That ad - from a Romney super PAC - ran here 24/7 for weeks during the primaries, and it was virtually the same ad that the Romney campaign had already run back in 2008 - except that back then, it wasn't from a super PAC, it was an "I'm Mitt Romney and I approve this message" one.
Look, as a liberal, I'm not crazy about the Soptic ad myself, and I'd prefer that it never actually airs - there are better ways to make the same point.
But I'm also thinking the Romney campaign's outrage is a little far-fetched, given that they themselves already used the same technique - twice - and were quite proud of themselves at the time for doing so.
The difference is that the ad about the run-a-way girl was a positive ad and was factual. There are all sorts of falsehoods in the Soptic ad. It fails to mention that the mill was going out of business at the time that Bain purchased it. It fails to mention that a strike by the union made it much more expensive to run. It fails to mention that Romney was not in a decision making position at Bain when the plant was closed at a time when cheap foreign steel was flooding the US market.
It fails to mention that Soptic refused the buyout offer he was given. That his wife worked for the next two years with health insurance before having to resign her job due to injury. It fails to mention that Soptic had a job with insurance (why wasn't his wife on the policy)?
It does not ask why she didn't go to a community clinic? In Jacksonville we have a non-profit clinic where working people lacking insurance can go for medical help (and pay on a sliding scale based on income). She ended up going to a county hospital when she came down with pneumonia. This was six years after the factory closed. This is six years where there was time to find her medical coverage.
The other item not mentioned is that the Republican alternative to Obamacare offers potability and does not allow insurers to reject clients due to a pre-existing condition. Soptic's insurance would be his and not the steel mill's policy. It would have gone with him where-ever he moved. There would have government assistance in the form of a voucher at lower income or tax credits at higher income to keep this insurance if unemployed.
There is also the issue of possible collusion between Obama's campaign and this super-PAC. i think there is enough evidence that the Romney campaign should request an (a) FEC investigation.
That's funny, Romney will do and say nothing to get elected.
Those in the Romney campaign need to put on their Big Boy Britches and tell Mitt he does not stand any chance of being elected if he does not release his past federal income tax returns for public review!
Romney should say fine, I will release my tax returns when Obama releases all his college transcripts and all his college financial aid information.
We are sick of all the ads on both sides here in Co, but I do think the GOP?baggers ads are worse and totally untrue!
The worse are the code word ones, such as the welfare ones.
Obama/Biden 2012 forward not back!
Can't you see what Obama is doing? He's lulling all Americans into a false sense of security doing things like:
- Making health care better and cheaper
- Getting Osama bin Laden
- Improving the economy
- Cutting taxes for the middle class
This is what he's done in his first term... just think of what he will do if we give him a second term!
Connect the dots, people!
Taxing rich more cannot pay for all Obama's spending and only give us squat. Taxes for middle class will need to go up also.
I believe that is the main fallacy for Obama fans is that they are not going to pay big time for this in the end. Obama did whatever he could to get re-elected, but middle class will end up paying for this as well .
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If government spending needs to be cut to reduce the debt, I'd rather it be President Obama and a Democratic congress that make the decisions on how to do that. Republicans have shown a predilection to funnel money to oil companies and red state projects like the original Bridge to Nowhere, rather than protecting education and the healthcare needs of the middleclass.
The republicans have spent decades slipping these loop holes into the tax code so that their rich over lords don't have to pay taxes. Honestly what do you think the chances are that they would ever willingly close any of them?
Health care better and cheaper? Apparantly, you don't listen to the news about premium increases, doctors not accepting new Medicaid patients, that the cost of $900 million in ten years is now estimated at $2.6 TRILLION and rising, that businesses are stopping building new plants because of the ObamaCare taxes, and that a major percentage of businesses will drop insurance coverage for its employees! Oh that's right, you are here in Obama's press network, MSNBC or NBC whichever you want to call it!
Getting Bin Laden..yes, Obama made a tough successful decision...the he or his cohorts leaked information to Hollywood and the press that put Special Ops personnel in danger just to highlight the event for his campaign!
41 months with unemployment over 8% (actually 13-14% if you add in those who stopped looking), the smallest percentage of Americans in the workforce ever, a huge majority of Americans feeling we are still in a depression, almost $6 trillion in new debt, and now escalating gas prices because Obama and his environmentalist buddies have blocked offshore drilling, new refineries, the pipeline from Canada, oil production at ANWAR and piling regulations on coal. Your definition of improving the economy is severely skewed! Too much koolaid?
Cutting taxes for the middle class? All he is doing is proposing extension of the Bush tax cuts for the middle class! And proposing higher taxes on those already paying 70% of the taxes. And the result of these increases...$890 billion in ten years..doesn't even pay for one year of Obama's deficit. If you think the country can get out of this debt mess without higher taxes on everyone (except the 47% who don't pay income tax at all), you are smoking something that is killing your brain cells!
By raising taxes on the "wealthy" we will be increasing taxes on 1.2 million Sub-Chapter S corporations (small businesses). This will cause the loss of 700,000 jobs. Obviously Obama (Pelosi/Reid) does not care about these job losses.
Nonsense, Bruce.
FOX talking points are not facts.
Barack Obama tells the truth. Mittens is unethical and deceitful. Republicans have a DOUBLE STANDARD
Romney's campaign has been in the mud since before the republican primaries. He has a predilection for running away from his past, which many find despicable. He seems utterly incredulous that anyone would think that this spoiled, draft dodging trust baby is not loved by the world. After all his friends fought his battles in prep school, the little people fought for the war he supported while he vacationed in France. He did in fact out source jobs, a close factories and he is unapologetic for evading taxes whenever possible. The legality of IRA is stretches the imagination beyond all bounds. No one should care about the indignation of the man who ran a sleazy campaign against Gingrich, against Satorum against Paul. The utter hypocrisy of his campaign, one that has no truth, no vision and no transparency parallels his life. The secrecy of the cartel seed money used to finance Bain. The practice of pocketing taxpayer money meant to support the very businesses he was bankrupting. The transporting of that money off-shore to shelter it from taxes and scrutiny. Cowards always think that attacks on them are scurrilous.
Mr. Flip/FLOP is running out of time! This is more of his BULL$HIT trying to put down our illustrious President Obama's character! What exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH sees in others is in fact what he really is! He's OH, SO OUT OF TOUCH! How in the hell did the corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY even think about putting this jerk up for election! Is the Republican Party that corrupt, that it doesn't even recognize a LOSER? They could have picked just ANYONE off the street and they would have been better off!
Fiesty Red...the only dumb fux here is you! Funny how you fail to mention the failure of your dictator to release his own records as in college records cover up fast a furious and any one of the other thousands of lies told. The promises in 2008 of NASA/Solyndra/the stimulus money sent over seas and the "shovel ready jobs" that are nowhere to be found. Please get a life and leave the rest of us hard working buissness building americans alone with your thousands of regulations and red tape nobody can survive in the rhetoric that you people sell. I may not be crazy about Romney but I am sick of the lies and over spending and cover ups of the present administration and will take the risk of voting for someone I don't know over voting for some Chi-town thug that I do know! He talks a good talk...but his walk is not anywhere close to walk that we were hoping for with his "hope and change" your country is going to sh*t fast so you may want to pull your head out of the sand.
Oy - where to start to pick this one apart .. and it sure is easy pickins. Let's start with Solyndra - now remind us again, how many failed green energy companies did Romney invest government funds?
Sure would be nice of you to post at least the first 1000 lies of the 'thousands of lies' told by Obama.
If you dislike the thousands of rules/regulations, why don't you move to Somalia where they have far fewer. And you do realize, all those nasty rules/regs were implemented long before Obama became president.
" And you do realize, all those nasty rules/regs were implemented long before Obama became president."
Obamacare and DF to name a couple that obama has slammed on businesses. Sad part is, the cost of both of those is still unknown, but what is known is the billions it's costing businesses already.
Maybe you should move to Somalia.
Why would I? I'm not the one bitching, whining, complaining, and ranting about the rules/regs. I also like Obamacare. And if DF stands for Dodd-Frank, I support that as well, although it doesn't go nearly far enough in regulating the financial industry.
Oh, and I'm sure you have some viable proof to back your claim that those two laws have already cost billions.
Shades of 2004 when the "viet veterans" smeared John Kerry's military service claiming they were not a GOP group.... Opened the door to all kinds of sh-t ads claiming no affiliation with either party. What's good for the Bush/Romney Goose is good for the Obama Gander. But in reality both gooses are cooked books for political infamy. Thank you very much, Supreme Court for making these brilliant "nonillustrous people."
That's right. In one decision, the stupid unconscious Supreme Court took away the electoral power of the people and gave it to the Super Pacs and their rich corporate polluters sponsors.
All those reasons why I should vote against a candidate but no way to do that on a yes only ballot...which needs to include a NO option so I can vote against that candidate without voting for the other one, while holding my nose. The highest net yes wins. It could even reduce attacks since they wouldn't necessarily result in votes for the one attacking. Wouldn't that be refreshing?
THANK THE REPUBLICAN SUPREME COURT and their stupid CITIZENS UNITED ruling. Notice how Republicans said nothing and thought this ruling was a big win when it was handed down. Anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size could see that this would be the result. The SCOTUS TOOK AWAY OUT ELECTORAL RIGHTS AND POWER AND GAVE IT TO THE SUPER PACS....who are controlled and financed by the corporations, big business, and the super rich.
Rob, I guess your right the Supreme court is stupid after all. They gave homobama his signature legislation ObumbOcare.
Wait ! I thought the ad was terrible and way over the top, but now if am I reading it right that the ad was never run ? So if it was never run by the PAC, than who did release it ? Almost sounds like the republicans wanted it out there so they would have something to cry about. If in fact it was never shown, who exactly did release it so that it could become an issue ? How can you cry foul about an ad that never ran ?
MM,
You are right. In fact, the two ads talked about in the lead in have not been aired on any teleivsion or cable station. They have been on a web site.
So it is all about completing ads that have not been shown in the MSM.
It shows me that too much money from superpacs and nowhere to spend it fast enough.
It is a slow newsday until Romney begins his bus tour so this is topic.
Umm by the way the bus in the Romney bus tour is a prop. The only time Romney will set foot on the bus is when it picks him up at the airport at each stop when he gets off his private plane.
corybud - I'm pretty sure we all knew Mitts and Anne were NOT going to ride on a bus!
Of course one knows he just shows up to ride in the bus or get off the bus for hislittle meet and greet with real people.
But,my god, he better have his advance team do better than in Iowa!!!
His stop ,ON THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT, to stand in a cornfield of a million dollar mega farmer with a spaceship house speaks volumes about how clueless he is.
I know every farmer this weekend thoughout the country will be talking about Romney's Iowa farmer while they have a beer and bump at the local waterhole in town.
I come from farmer stock, and your average farmer can see through a fake from a section mile away.
I want to know more about the space ship house. I realize it's not an actual space ship (at least I hope not), but I'd like to know more.
Really? They use John Dean's voice over - regarding Watergate. This is a shameless ad, put together for Mitt Romney THE WEATHERVANE. This is funny! It is just hilarious. First, Obama certainly has no more coordination with liberal SuperPacs than Romney does with Karl Rove and the Koch Brothers, who run the conservative SuperPacs. Second, Priorities USA ran an ad, which was ENTIRELY TRUE. The guy lost his job, they lost their healthcare, and the woman died. Interesting, the Romney camp's original reply was that she would have been better off in Mass. rather than in Indiana, because of "Romneycare" in Mass. Here's a fact. In many places in our country, when you lose healthcare during the middle of a devastating illness YOU DIE!! That hurts conservatives. They don't like to think those thoughts. They want to deny and cry that we have the best healthcare in the World. Look away, look away, Romneyland!