Is team Romney about applying the so called "etch a sketch" strategy? Because come next week and beyond, we will still ask the killer question, show your tax returns Mitt.

Obama/Biden 2012

Willard - "I know I'm behind in the polls, but still vote for me".

These poll numbers will not improve for Romney if he is not willing to answer simple questions about his qualifications or justify his contention that the wealthy need more tax cuts by releasing his tax returns to prove that he is "taxed enough already".

He claims his business experience is his primary qualification to be the President but he says that anyone who examines his past business practices are playing dirty....

He claims that the wealthy need tax cuts so that they will create jobs, but he will not show us the proof that his own tax rate is high enough for that to be a valid argument...

Mitt.....nobody is just going to take your word for it....this is an important job, and if it was you who was doing the hiring, you would certainly balk at an applicant who would not allow you to verify their resume......why would you expect that we would not want to verify yours?

Romney spiked the Summer Doldrums

by

having us ask the question

Where are Romney's taxes?

Thanks Mitt for keeping it lively.... no doldrums from you.

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No taxes either...what a way to keep your name in the media

just like I wouldn't show my birth certificate

What an idiot....this is the best you got?

If Romney were to be elected, I doubt this country will have a chance economically...let alone anything else....this coming from a staunch Republican from the good ol south...

Even my racist relatives, most of them dont got front teeth and live in trailer parks out in the Texas woods and some in the Oklahoma yonder wilderness; are votin for Obama....

My couzin Bubba who milks bulls (yep, BULLS) for a livin and is a security member of the KKK, will be votin Obama....times a changin folks

So get your ass out there and Vote Obama folks

Out west they call me Doc and I approve this message...

No precipitating event? Like the LACK OF TAX RETURNS?

No. America is realizing Romney is a reincarnation of the National Socialists. Romney is SATAN!

Romney won't even discuss why he has six grandmothers instead of the usual two. Now he is calling for an "end to personalo attacks" such as his taxes, his "medical necessity" dressage horse and his tax returns.

note bene: When Reid made his statement about Romney's taxes, there had been similar (though broader) statements about Romney in both Bloomberg and Forbes. Perlosi said she had talked with Reid and that knew who his source was. It is appearing more and more that the source is someone who was on the Marriott Board of Directors with Romney. Apparently Romney insisted that Marriott use the sort of complex offshore tax dodges that Bain set up for numerous clients. Marriott did so and it split the Board. When one of these shelters was successfully attacked in court by the IRS, the Board reunited, the tax shelters were stopped, and Romney resigned from the Marriott BoD. It is hinted that Reid's source is one of the disgruntled Directors who did not want Marriott involved in sleazy tax shelters, especially the 89-day shell game false front shelters that Bain specialized in.

There are also supposedly clients of Bain, for whom Romney set up offshore 90-day shell game companies to whom Romney bragged that he never paid taxes because of his use of a tax loophole that allowed him to move money every 89 days between offshore shell companies and never pay taxes on it.

The "senior advisor" said that the polls show that the foreign trip had a negligible effect on Mitts popularity, is that the same guy who told the reporters to "kiss my a@@" ? And isn't it funny how the trip was supposed to improve Mitts standings, yet it had, at BEST, no effect.

There may be a change next week, Romney will continue to drop, maybe so much that the party decided that Ron Paul is actually a better choice.

Oh yes, typical Republican deflection: It’s the doldrums, sunspots, wacky Mormonism, sine waves from the federal government, anything but Republican's supply-side, trickle down economic policies.

Romney and Republicans will continue to lose because their economic formula is the same one that crashed our economy. They fail to learn from their mistakes and have become the new Whig party.

The party of big corporations and the greedy rich need more votes than Fox News can swindle for them, especially in this day and age of Occupy movements.

Besides, the information age has a remarkable way of squashing political deceptions, thus leading to a more informed electorate. No amount of Koch Brother money can beat that.

Show us the tax returns, Mitt!

Retroactive RomneyHood,

Maybe people just don't trust you or like you....for good reason.

Unfortunately,your Party of No is engaged in wars on: women, voters, minorities, students, the old, the young, science, immigrants, and ideas.

Because you have no compass, spine, or platform, you do what they tell you.

Patriot Jane ... what a nasty snarky comment. I want Obama for my President again and I will never grace the door of a Chick-fil-a as long as I live. Have at it girl.

I doubt he represents any that went to Chick-fil-a and he doesn't represent me.

I encourage more of you low-education homophobes to eat as much chik-filet and other fried menu items as possible. That way it may land some of them in the Emergency Room where your 'freedom,' not to get health insurance will cost the rest of us your doctor bill.

Patriot Calamaity Jane, we get it. Youi hate the President. We dont need the chik-filet vote, never was going to get theire racist, bigoted toothless votes in the 1st place. Have a fried drumstick in my honor, ok? (burp)

Bill-Austin

Nice sociopath ya got there. Is it any wonder that folks are catching on.

Bill I think you're wasting your breath (so to speak). The only non-sociopaths in the new and improved "Republican" Party (NeoRepublican Party) are now calling themselves Independents.

Yes, there is no way that making a fool out of himself in England, Israel and Poland in an attempt to demonstrate his Presidential skills had anything to do with his drop in the polls.

No, it is not doldrums... people are simply waking up to the fact that Romney is nothing but a stooge for the top 1%.

PatriotJane

Mexicans and welfare recipients want Obama. With ACORN's help he probably will win. Disgusting. I doubt he represents any that went to Chick-fil-a and he doesn't represent me.

I'm curious "Patriot"jane - What exactly do you base your "patriotism" on. Since you have decided to insult both Mexican Americans and the poor, then associate them with Black Americans and the President; I'm thinking I see a pattern here. I'll bet you're one of those neo-conservatives who see the President as "different" don't you? Could this all be an expression of an irrational fear based on those who you feel are different than yourself? Perhaps an unidentifiable fear of change? Why not google "the conservative brain". Recognition is the first step to recovery. You'll never be able to change the physiology of your brain, but you may be able to learn to compensate.

Patriot Jane, you do realize that ACORN folded more than two years ago? Also, your supposed type of patriotism will kill this country. What a fraud.

So Romney's camp is blaming the citizens. It's our fault his numbers have gotten even lower. He couldn't possibly be responsible for that! lol

Funny- this is one time they could blame Obama for something and they would be correct!

Maybe at some point in this election cycle we'll actually start discussing our lousy economy, a horrid lack of jobs, a crippling national debt, and a sitting president who said four years ago that he'd make sure none of those things would happen...but could not stop them from doing so because he was too busy trying to do other things that most folks really didn't want in the first place.

Obama did improve the economy with the stimulus and the auto bailout, and he had another plan that would create at least 1.3 million jobs that was filibustered by the very Republicans who planned to sabotage the Obama administration. He also had the Simpson Bowles commission to find ways to reduce the debt, and based its recommendations for his $4 trillion "grand bargain," but Cantor and his ilk refused to compromise and let the U.S. get downgraded. And Obama would have gone a long way to solving the economic problem, had the GOP not plotted to obstruct his every move on his inauguration day.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

TO: PatriotJane who wrote:

"Mexicans and welfare recipients want Obama. With ACORN's help he probably will win. Disgusting. I doubt he represents any that went to Chick-fil-a and he doesn't represent me."

"Patriot"?!?!!! That's NOT what we Americans call folks who make those kinds of outrageous statements.

You sound more like a RWNJ to me.

Obama/Biden 2012

Newt had one thing correct: Romney will fail miserably during the debates. If they think these poll numbers are bad, they haven't seen nothin' yet. I'll bet you $10K on that fact.

Mitt Wit the Twit

His campaign’s latest attempt to explain how and when Romney left Bain Capital — he’s supposed to have “retired retroactively” at some unspecified date — has became an instant punch line for JOKES!

The only reason anyone cares when Romney left Bain Capital, the private equity firm he founded and ran, is because Romney made a totally unreasonable claim: When Democrats pointed to the outsourcing and job cuts at companies Bain owned or controlled, Romney denied any responsibility since these unfortunate developments took place after he left to run the Winter Olympics in 1999.

This was an absurd position to take. Romney has boasted of his prowess at creating jobs by pointing to successful companies in which Bain invested, such as Staples,This growth took place after 1999. Romney was trying to take credit for post-departure successes but not for failures.

He then tried to insist on another ridiculous proposition, which is that he left Bain suddenly and completely in 1999. This cannot possibly be true. Romney was Bain Capital — chairman, chief executive and sole stockholder. There is no way he could have disentangled himself from the firm so abruptly.

Indeed, he did not. As late as 2002, Bain’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission list Romney as chairman, chief executive and sole stockholder. SO Mitt Wit the Twit ids LYING

If you look at Romney’s signature on those documents and listen to what he’s been saying on the campaign trail, you have to conclude that either he lied to the SEC or he’s lying to voters now.

IF HE LIED TO THE SEC HE HAS COMMITTED A FELONY!

THERE SHOULD BE AN IMMEDIATE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS MAN!

Let's hope not except to widen from a 9 pt. lead to 18pts so we can keep this religious cult member out of the WH. and his rich friends from buy his presidency!

There is nothing to explain - the so-called 'slide' is not real.

It's caused by several pollsters issuing polls where they include about 50% more Democrats than Republicans in their sample, when current surveys show equal numbers of Republicans and Democrats.

If you take polls of Likely Voters where the sample is split properly, it actually shows Romney slightly ahead - In fact, Rasmussen, the most accurate and unbiased pollster for 2004 and 2008 has Romney ahead 47% to 43% for Obama among Likely Voters, and if you adjust the Gallup poll for Likely Voters (see link below for explanation), they would show Romney ahead by 2%.

http://www.polimerican.com/adults-vs-registered-vs-likely-voters/

Patriot Jane, you seem to have 'conveniently' left out the part where the GOP ALSO used ACORN. Sen. McCain was at an Acorn rally, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, partnered with ACORN in March 2008 for a "Homeownership Promotes The Economy" taskforce, another Rep. Gov., Rick Perry of Texas, signed ACORN's Lending Law Reform Bill that changed the state's homelending practices, Minnesota Gov.Tim Pawlenty signed a similar bill -- drafted by ACORN -- that helped homeowners get fairer deals on their mortgages, Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney signed an anti-predatory lending bill that ACORN supported. Strange that the GOP 'supported' ACORN and then villified them AFTER they weren't needed any longer. Oh wait, isn't that the usual GOP mantra; It's only GOOD when we have the idea, BAD when Obama has the idea. Being close-minded hypocrit isn't 'patriotic,' it only shows cowardness.

still waiting for mccain to step foward with romneys tax returns for the past twenty years.

Mitt Wit the Twit

Mitt Wit been playing by a different set of rules from the rest of us. His tax rate is half that of your average American, and he's stashed the difference in offshore accounts from Switzerland to the Cayman
Islands. WHAT A GREAT PATRIOT!

As CEO and sole owner of Bain Capital from '99-'02, he received $100,000 a year in salary for a job now he claims he didn't have at a company whose decisions he refuses to accept responsibility for.

The Romney Rules are a double standard, plain and simple. They let Romney argue that the basic guarantees of healthcare and a secure retirement are "free stuff you don't pay for," then turn around and tell reporters that talking about his six figure non-job is off limits and no, you don't need to see his taxes.

Here's the bottom line: Mitt Romney thinks the country should answer to him. We think our elected leaders should answer to you.

THERE SHOULD BE AN IMMEDIATE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS MAN!

@Roy Wilson

Really Roy? FOX NEWS,which has Obama up NINE POINTS over Romney and SEVEN POINTS ahead with Independents (I know Roy,I know...those bastards probably polled 50% Democrats in their Independent poll...)...FOX NEWS is polling 50% more Dems than Republican's in THEIR poll?

Really?

You don't knock this BS off and I'll have no choice but to open an account over at DUMFUX and tattle on you.

That means no Sean Hannity swimsuit calendar for you this XMAS mister.

My college "Statistics" professor used to say that the great thing about statistics is that you can produce any argument you wish to make, without telling a lie, depending on which statistics you chose to use, and how you present it."

And as any political campaign spokesperson will confirm "We don't pay any attention to polls" (code for: We don't pay any attention to polls unless of course the results are in our favor).

The problem with Romney is he has two major flaws at this point, his performance in his overseas trip and the tax return problem. People suspect that he is hiding something, and by not releasing them he is fueling that. No amount of accusing Obama of not releasing his college information is going to get him out of that.

Mittens is in trouble and republicans would do well to ask him to step down and find someone else at the convention.

There is nothing to explain - the so-called 'slide' is not real.

Ummmm, if you say so. So according to you the Fox pollsters polled 50% more Democrats than Republicans for their poll? Really? Can you support that with a reference or link? Not that I'm doubting Fox wanting to promote a Democratic advantage.

Seems to me many Republicans are from Egypt (somewhere along de Nile).

IMO it seems for Romney, a moderate Republican, to garner the nomination, the Republicans have spent months forcing him to the extreme right on every issue. Trying to make him someone he's not in order to court the Evangelical/Tea Party extremists and in the process losing the bulk of the independent vote needed to win the general election.

If you don't feel Romney has had an awful summer, well, then you'd be likely to disavow the polls, as you're living in a different reality.

Romney could put an end to this tax issue but he prefers to avoid the subject. Why? Is he that insecure about the amount of money he has made? What exactly is it that he does not want to reveal?

And now that Romney is trying to move back to the middle to recapture those independent voters, the Republican talking-heads are going bonkers and are frustrated beyond belief with their candidate and are on the verge of being resigned to looking forward to 2016.

So yeah, you must be right, "this 'slide' isn't real" because it's a freaking out-of-control crash landing!

Mittens is in trouble and republicans would do well to ask him to step down and find someone else at the convention.

If by "do well" you mean fall into utter confusion and end up running nobody, then yes, Republicans would surely do well to give Mitt Romney the boot. The problem with doing that is that the Republicans have focused entirely on Romney for the past few months after a protracted primary that resembled Rome's Year of Four Emperors. They have nobody else to put up; all the primary candidates have too many flaws, and the only reasonable Republican who could win is John Huntsman, and he would get slaughtered by the Tea Party idiots. With Romney, the GOP has a small chance (ironically); without him, they won't last 5 seconds.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

@Jan-21270

"....Mittens is in trouble and republicans would do well to ask him to step down and find someone else at the convention."

Jan, I think you are absolutely correct in your assessment. The recent drop in the polls reflects "Independants" moving away from Romney, and Independants are slow and deliberate in their choices, and once you lose them you do not get them back by pandering for their return.

After all, considering the extreme divisivness in this election (and in America in general), there's not going to be any meaningful movement among registered Republican and Registered Democratic party voters.

The competition is for the Independants, and neither candidate can win without a majority of Independant support. And the only way now that the Republican Party can pull out this election to win the White House is to free the delegates and have an open convention. They cannot win in November with Mr. Romney. Even the core of the Republican Party is uncomfortable with him as their candidate. Romney is still trying to reinvent himself to give the core of his own party a reason to trust him, and to vote for him.

Indpendants are just that, "Independant. And the majority of Independants are not turning toward this highly secretive, misanthropic and impossible to characterize current presumptive nominee, Mitt Romney.

Independants are looking for a candidate who stands for something, and believes in something -- and is on the record as standing for and believing in those things for more than just this current election cycle rather than standing for and believing in the opposite of those things previously.

"Grown-ups" are supposed to develop core convictions as they mature. An adult man in his 60's who has no demonstrated long-term core convictions is, at the very least, an odd duck, ....and deeply troubling.

Independants have figured this out about Mr. Romney, and he's not going to get back those that he has lost, nor those who will be lost in the coming weeks. If the Republican Party faces this reality, and a different candidate emerges from their convention as their nominee, they can still win the White House. But Mitt Romney isn't going to cut it, and more and more top party representatives are now realizing it each day.

I predict a brokered Republican convention, with Mitt Romney making a face-saving withdrawal (eg., "for the good of the party", or "for the good of the country", or "for previously unknown health issues"; either himself or his wife's MS, etc., or just the old standby "To spend more time with my family" (that's always a good one). How ever it comes about, Mitt Romney will not emerge from the Republican convention as the nominee. And if he does, we will see a Democratic Party landslide in Novemeber.

kennyw-2983735 "FOX NEWS is polling 50% more Dems than Republican's in THEIR poll?"

I hadn't looked at the FOX poll details before, but it appears that they too 'skewed' their poll to favor Democrats - 44% Democrats vs 35% Republicans.

That 'sampling error' would account for almost the entire 9% difference favoring Obama, and if you make the 'Likely/Registered Voter' adjustment, it would also show a 4% advantage for Romney.

Funny how consistent the pollsters are when you know how to look at them - all showing Romney ahead by about 4% - completely ar odd with the 'spin' attempt by NBC.

By the way - in reviewing FOX's track record for 2004 and 2008 - their record is not very good - In 2004, their final poll had Kerry winning by 2%, but Bush actually won by 2.4% - a 4.4% error in favor of the Democrat when compared with actual. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Jon Stewart called Sean Hannity a "square-headed life support system for Roger Ayles' post-it notes".

Gotta love it!

JimSpence

Freshieee

Obama did improve the economy with the stimulus and the auto bailout

Hmmmm, so we spent $863 billion and we saved or created $4.5 million jobs. That’s $191,777 per job. You realize we could have just given businesses $50,000 and we could have created over 17 MILLION jobs! This is the incompetence of government created jobs.

First of all, the stimulus was $787 billion, not $863 billion. Secondly, a third of them were tax breaks, many given to SMALL BUSINESSES. Now let me ask you a question: why the hell would you hire someone if the government gave you $50,000???? Unless demand increased, you would use that to reduce debt or buy more inventory or things like that. Government jobs (primarily via infrastructure investments) stimulate demand since those people buy goods, increasing demand and increasing consumer spending, creating more jobs. In addition, the companies contracted to build roads order more materials, increasing demand and eventually leading suppliers to increase employment to handle the demand.

GM was a criminal act, yet you Libbies support it. First Barrack Hussein spent other people’s money. Hmmm, kind of like a venture capital firm does right? Any business can be considered a success if a government gives it tens of billions of dollars and is willing to accept the losses.

Yet GM was did not just give the government its losses; it became profitable in 2010 and became No. 1 in auto manufacturing in 2011, showing the investment made to be a real success.

The problem with GM is much more egregious. What Barrack Hussein did in “rescuing” GM was to subvert the bankruptcy and contract laws of the United States. Secured debt was wiped out and unsecured debtors were made whole. Billions in wealth was shifted from those who owned it to those who didn’t. This was done outside of and against the law in order to financially benefit Barrack Husseins criminal political allies in the goonions.

Okay, give me proof that Obama broke the law by giving aid to GM. The money given to GM was money well spent because if the automaker had collapsed, the resulting shock wave would rip the economy apart.

Now, had GM gone through the normal bankruptcy procedures, its assets would have been preserved, either by keeping them within a leaner and more competitive GM, or by selling them off to other firms looking to invest and/or expand. Those assets would have required workers to employ them, so even had GM gone bankrupt through the legal system whoever got them would have needed those workers to continue the business. Some employees, most likely management, would have lost their jobs.

Where the hell would GM gotten the capital to go through private bankruptcy??? Every financial institution either didn't have the capital to invest in GM or wouldn't; i.e the credit crunch of 2009.

Even if we became "whole" (it may be decades before we break even, if ever) we still have seen the laws trashed. No one, left or right or in the middle, should favor that kind of America. You could be the next to see your wealth stolen through an illegal action of the government, but who would you complain to if you supported other such illegal actions before?

Wait a minute; how was my wealth taken??? Via taxes??? Pensions or 401ks???? The bailout SAVED the company; without it the company would have dropped.

Romney was absolutely correct to say that GM and Chrysler should have gone through the bankruptcy processess. Those laws were designed to handle all these problems, to decide who should retain assets, which liabilities to discharge, and so on. And it all would have been done without cost to taxpayers but for the cost of operating the courts.

Yet those procedures are hard to do when there are no investors willing to risk their capital. As the lender of the last resort, the government HAD to swoop in to save GM or else face the collapse of the auto industry.

What astounds me about most people who favored the GM and Chrysler bailout is their willingness to call their political opponents,fascists and other disgusting insults, and yet these same people fail to comprehend that corporate and government intertwining to this degree is without a doubt the very thing you purport to oppose.

Wait, hold on a second; if the GM bailout favored the unions instead of the investors, how the hell can that make it a fascist act??? Unions aren't a part of a company; they are a separate entity. And like the banking industry bailout, we HAD to do it. We faced economic disaster and had to do something. And by the way, while fascism is a coalition of government and corporate officials, I think that a one-time bailout of a company that was CRUCIAL to the economy can be discounted. Now, government officials colluding with companies to, let's say, keep steel prices up and create a steel monopoly is fascism.

The more we bail out GM, or subsidize the Solyndras of the USA, or impose regulations that demand firms provide certain benefits (like the health care bill), the more we become the very thing you claim to despise. And, yet, Barrack Husseins supporters are actively pursuing still more of the same, all the while having no compunction about calling others fascists.

Wait a minute; regulating the economy is fascism??? While I can admit that the individual mandate without the public option is a giveaway to private insurers, it does balance the equation by putting regulations on what they can get away with. And America has a long history of subsidizing industries; the railroad industry received millions in grants and subsidies and a huge giveaway: the Transcontinental Railroad. I oppose corporations dictating government policy that benefit only a few people; subsidizing or investing in things like green energy benefits EVERYONE, and last time I checked the U.S. government is encouraging an entire INDUSTRY, not just one company.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Whether the polls are correct or not, the only way we can keep Romney out of the White House is for the democrats to get energized and get out and vote. The RWNJ's are so much against Obama that they will get out and vote. There are more democrats than repugs so if we all get aout and vote we can win with the help of the Independents.

Amen, Woody! We need to make sure that every vote counts and that people get off their butts and vote! (and not just to retain our President ... there's a lot in Congress that need to GO!)

The GOP always digs for the bottom of the barrel for a candidate, but now, they have found the new low, beneath the barrel. This guy can't answer a question.

Platform: I will increase the size, budget, and scope of the US military---while cutting taxes and reduce spending.

Start more wars, give the military defense contractors more money, and continue to chop away at education, programs for our country's most needy, and the infrastructure. Really? Can he balance a building on his pecker?

Bring on the debates, one on one with President Obama and Romney will have to actually answer a question. At that point---he's toast. Give us a vague description of how he will accomplish these fantasy tasks--please.

Show us, the American people, your Income Tax returns, Mr Romney. I think we should expect that those should be relevant to holding the nation's highest office. You're no more than a suited grifter.

"It’s the middle of summer. It’s the doldrums. It’s the middle of the Olympics...”

Wrong.

IT'S THE CANDIDATE!

Roy Wilson,

STOP! You have learned well to lie like the FOX Murdock Rag does daily.

Who needs "waterboarding" when brainwashing seems to work so well!

It really makes me wonder why when its Romney's super pac, he says he has nothing to do with that and no control, but if its Obama's super pac its all Obama's fault. I know he is slipping in poll numbers, maybe people are seeing his hypocrisy for all its worth.

Jim Spence,

You are nothing more than another repugnant Republican (there are decent Republicans, they've just been drowned out by the extremist right), disillusioned by what the right professes to be reality (the country learned it's lesson during the Bush years, repeat a lie until it's mistaken for fact) and resorting to sophomoric name calling (listen to Limbaugh much?) because you don't have a factual leg to stand on.

Your long-winded rant on the bailouts was nothing more than the hot air of a maladroit malcontent. You didn't even account for the ancillary industries that would have been devastated by a GM bankruptcy. Had GM gone under we would have gone from a deep recession to a full blown depression. Also, at that time there was NO ONE willing to step in and pick up the pieces. The administration had already looked into that but why quibble over facts when they get in the way of your narrative.

Bottom-line: you are going to have 4 more years to stew about the president you hate and then you'll get Hilary in 2016.

Good luck with that!

Show us your education records from high school and college Obama. Why are you spending millions to hide them?

Obama tell us why you and Michelle have lost your lawyer licenses? The Illinois records show Obama lied about his qualifications and Michelle committed fraud. Why don't the liberal media publish this information.

Obama tell us about Larry Bland. He admitts to having oral sex with you. Are you really the first gay president or just part of your drug induced dissolute youth?

Obama let us see the records for Fast and Furious. You and Holder are hiding a horrible program that cost an agents life.

Harry Reid, show us your tax returns. You had to pay fines to the IRS, give us the details why? Kick backs from the Nevada unions ...again?

VOTE ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT, stop Obama's economic insanity. Restore hope, transparency, and change for all Americans.

The Sentinel-419170,

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You have liberal media making commercials and the President along with Reed and friends making statements that have no bases on facts but by forcing the Romney camp to answer to the baseless attacks they are doing what is intended, to keep every ones eyes off the terrible economy, high unemployment rates and record deficit spending.

What I would love to see is Romney state he is done talking about these senseless attacks and start dealing with what effects us now and will effect both us and our children in the future. The problem is if this is done the Democrats will loose miserably so to prevent such a terrible thing happening to them they will continue to sling mud and make up lies because people like you are sheep and not men. For once please provide proof to your attacks, or is it not possible because there is no proof to be found, just speculation.

I see the fisting deadhead is blathering away with all her "witty" one liners. So what would you expect from a fat pasty porker who lives in her mom's basement and collects welfare and lives on foodstamps. LOL LOL LOL

@Roy Wilson

Nice try cupcake.

Straight from the source themselves---FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll Methodology Statement

ON SAMPLING:

"Quotas are applied to ensure the sample mirrors the proportion of voters nationally. Specifically, the aim is for a gender split nationwide of 53 percent female and 47 percent male,as well as regional quotas.

They also point out that they screen respondents to see if they are registered voters. In the months prior to the election they may also screen more for "likely voters" and have a series of questions in place to ascertain this. What the cut off for the "months prior to..." was it didn't say.

So far I agree with their methodology. Good on them.

ON WEIGHTING:

Their words...

"When necessary,minor weights are used to ensure the demographics of survey respondents are representative of the national registered voter population (as measured by the national exit poll). Generally,weights are only applied to age and race variables. The Fox News Poll is not weighted by political party".

I looked at the details---the methodology Fox claims on their own website and it appears that you're full of it. Again.

Funny how consistent the bull crap is when you know which posters to expect it from.

Now if you want to have a debate on who is probably the best electoral prognosticator out there then I'm going to put my money on Nate Silver. His methodology is the best by far in my opinion,he has the track record (49 of 50 states,only missing Indiana,which he DID say would be closer than most anyone else thought and he hit all 35 Senate races in '08 as well...) and his Baseball Prospectus won me a boatload of coin in fantasy baseball for several years as well.

This is one of the nastiest campaigns I've seen in quite awhile. Interesting if you look at the candidates, neither one is something to brag about. Mitt is an unknown quantity, Obama has a record which is why the attack ads rather than bragging. Romney's campaign is pathetic, Obama has the liberal media and weasel Reid etc. pushing the crap and what does Romney's idiot campaign manager do? Instead of coming out swinging, the eejit simpers and makes Romneycare mouth noises.

If Romney loses it will be because Obama is really good at the Chicago Way and Romney isn't smart enough to counterbalance the slime and muck slinging. Obama getting re-elected is a seriously bad thing, his supporters will dance in the streets and then wonder what hit them (if they're intelligent enough to understand consequences)

Tbenton,

I fail to see the "pot calling the kettle black" analogy. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to show me where I'm guilty of such.

As for your foray into "liberal media making commercials" the only evidence I've seen of that is MSNBC, and that's just for promoting their shows, similar to what Fox does for their talking-heads. Can you provide or tell me which anti-Romney commercials were produced by other "liberal media?"

And just the term "liberal media" or "lame-stream media" has always amused me. IMO it is the duty of journalism to get to the bottom of any story, to reveal the truths and substantiate the facts. And that is precisely what the conservative detests. They don't want the truth to be told, they want to tell you what the truth is, i.e., see Iraq War, see Bush tax cuts (the lowest job creation in decades until the resultant 2008 crash), see Valerie Plame, see Fast and Furious (a Bush program by the way, excellent article in last months Fortune magazine if you'd care to read it), see Death Panels, see Affordable Care Act, see Medicare cuts within the Affordable Care Act (the elimination of the Medicare Advantage program which was grossly overcharging for services), see the Ryan Budget (your VP candidate now), see the restricting of voting rights in several Republican led states, see the Republican counties in Ohio get extended voting time while Democratic counties in Ohio do not, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

In the venerable words of Colonel Jessup, "You want the truth?!! You can't handle the truth!!!"

You're waiting for Romney to address the issues with more than lip service? Don't hold your breath. Why doesn't Romney show his tax returns? Every other president has, why not him? The ball was thrown in his court and all he's doing is traveling, double-dribbling, and kicking the ball out of bounds. When he should have shown character and strength and put the question to rest. Sucks to have him as your candidate.

Guess I'll just Baaaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa, through a second term, said the sheep to the lemming.

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"Obama - "I know I've failed miserably and have no record to run on, but Romney won't show you his tax returns just like I wouldn't show my birth certificate, and a birth certificate is actually REQUIRED to be president...."

Republican dupes aren't sufficiently intelligent to be retarded.

Here's how it works:

A presidential candidate must get on the ballots of all 50 states in order to qualify. That means he must prove to each state -- that's proving it 50 times -- that he meets the requirements for the office. Even the REPUBLICAN governor of Hawaii verified that President Obama was born in Hawaii as his birth certificate verifies.

But, no: releasing onne's birth certificate is not a requirement -- though President Obama has don that multiple times.

"but, I'll give you taxpayer-funded handouts for your vote."

If Democrats buy votes -- and racists insist that's the reality, even though the fact is that all politicians "bring home the bacon," or they don't get reelected -- that is better than stealing them, which latter is the Republican method.

Republican dupes are too stupid to be Americans.

Wingnuts are too stupid to get it: mainstream media is moderate, centrist; it is the majority media, and represents the majority view. Being addicts of Rupert "I Illegally Hack the Private Voicemail of Murdered Children" Murdoch's sewer is being addicted to an extremist foreign minority with an agenda from WW II Germany via Australia.

Romney's father, a Republican, established the precedent of presidential candidates releasing their tax returns, and did so by releasing twelve years of them. His son, Mitt "Mitt" Romney, a Republican, claims that the Republican standard is two years.

Mitt "Mitt" Romney has a problem: when he ran for Senate against John Kerry, Kerry released his tax returns. Mitt "Mitt" refused to release his because Kerry's wife didn't release hers. The problem with Mitt "Mitt" Romney's insistence that she do so is that she wasn't running for office, so was a private citizen, so her tax returns were wholly irrelevant.

Mitt "Mitt" Romney was, of course, trying to point away from his refusal to release his returns by demanding that a private citizen release her tax returns. Mitt "Mitt" Romney lost the election because Massachusetts voters aren't stupid, or suckers for deceit.

(Romney won his run for governor by being pro-choice, knowing that Massachusetts voters don't elect those who are determined to restrict others' rights to make private medical decisions best suited to their health and circumstances.)

Yo: Mitt "Mitt" Romney: your refusal to release your tax returns is a mortal wound that will lose you the election. It isn't that you can't "connect" with voters; it's that you refuse to be forthcoming.

Wake up, jerk: you aren't running for Private Citizen; and the rules are to be the same for all candidates. Want to play by a different set of rules? Then do so in the Cayman Islands.

Vote for Mitt Romney, winner of the Olympic Gold Medal in the Flip-Flop!

Next Week the polls may change!! Well I believe he knows what he is talking about. If the rumors are true that he picked ole make Medicare a voucher Ryan as Vice Presidential running mate, I see another -10 slip right out of the gate.

These people have no shame or morals. Calling the President low because some PAC made an unflattering political ad dose not come close. Go back and review some of the things the same bots said about the President, his immediate family, his mother, his mother's family, his birth, his birth certificate, his education, his school records, etc., etc., etc., and we start to get a glimpse of what is really, really low. I thought that the young lady that responded about meeting in the middle was a good response, but, IMHO these people are so low that they need a step ladder to crawl up over an earthworm. Just one old, near sane, man's rant.

kennyw-2983735 "@Roy Wilson.....Nice try cupcake.

"When necessary,minor weights are used to ensure the demographics of survey respondents are representative of the national registered voter population (as measured by the national exit poll). Generally,weights are only applied to age and race variables. The Fox News Poll is not weighted by political party". "

Perhaps you have a comprehension problem, because your post merely supports my analysis, to wit;

1 - 'The Fox News Poll is NOT weighted by political party'.

2 - It SHOULD be because they polled 44% Democrats vs only 35% Republicans, when surveys by both Gallup and Rasmussen show slightly more registered voters that ID as Republicans than Democrats.

Since exit polls show that 90% of those who identify with a political party vote 'party line' (consistent in both 2004 and 2008), that means a sampling error of 7.2% - biased in favor of Obama.

If you deduct that 7.2% sampling error from the 9% FOX poll difference, you get a far more accurate estimate of a 1.8% lead for Obama among Registered Voters. Then if you adjust for the 'Registered/Likely Voter' disparity (link below), you get a REAL lead for Romney of about 2.8% - easily within the margin of error for Gallup and Rasmussen, who show a 4% advantage for Romney among Likely Voters.

http://www.polimerican.com/adults-vs-registered-vs-likely-voters/

Roy, you are totally fixated on proving your point that the media has skewed multiple polls, and your man Romney is actually leading. You have now made six or seven mind-numbingly lengthy and tedious posts in this one thread alone to argue your opinion which you cannot actually prove. So you are twisting and distorting and cooking the numbers to match your preconceived argument. What you are doing here on this thread is pretty disturbing, Roy. More so if you actually believe what you are pushing, as opposed to just shilling.

It appears to everyone reading your posts that you simply cannot accept the truth, so you manufacture your own facts. I hate to be the bearer of uncomfortable news for you, Roy, but that meets a definition of .... delusional.

Roy, no one is buying it. Move on. Get a life. That horse is not going to get up and trot no matter HOW long you kick it. The horse is DEAD, Roy! I suggest you bury it because it's really starting to stink up the place.

Agreed, Layton.

"When the Romney campaign finally reaches the high ground, we look forward to greeting them there."

Ouch. Though I don't think anyone should be holding their breath waiting for that to happen. So many polls have already shown that people aren't voting FOR Romney as much as they're voting AGAINST Obama. If that's his base, he's kind of stuck now with having to keep them fired up. And if he starts running only positive ads, he 's stuck with bringing the focus back to all that "I spent my entire life in the private sector" stuff - i.e., Bain Capital and tax returns.

Rock, meet hard place.....

The problem is that the "anti-Obama" is not likeable enough.

It is interesting.

I wonder how many conservatives on these forums would vote for Romney because they like him and think he would make a good President, as opposed to voting for Romney because he is anyone other than Obama?

The ones I talk to outside these forums are really not that impressed with Romney, they just want to see Obama out of office.

There are other Republicans they would rather have as a candidate.

The Republican convention may prove interesting if this is representative of the way the party is thinking. Perhaps Mitt may be the first one to win the primaries and not get his party's nomination?

@CPO,

Hmmm, and could these be the same people who voted for anyone except Romney in the primaries?

Admittedly Chris, they could be the same people that voted for anybody but Romney.

Which might indicate that they felt that none of the candidates the Republicans put foreward represent their views?

That might explain why the lead changed so often?

It is probably a calculated risk. They don't seem to give a sheet about what anybody thinks. No disclosure, removed hard drives, living in Utah and Massachusetts simultaneously, being CEO, chairman, president and sole shareholder of Bain Capital, which sounds like a lot of hats :) and at the same time, had absolutely no involvement in Bain Capital. This sounds like a wonderful company - it runs without a CEO, chairman, president or any shareholders.

There's another story out there about the founding of Bain Capital. It appears that when he couldn't raise enough capital from legitimate sources to create the company, he finally got the start up money from the Right-Wing Salvadoran Death Squads that were murdering and 'disappearing' thousands of people in that country at that time. He was the broker for the Death Squads. Bain Capital was created with "BLOOD MONEY". http://cocomoeawc.newsvine.com/_news/2012/08/10/13220797-mitt-romney-started-bain-capital-with-money-from-families-tied-to-death-squads

CPO Sharkey

Which might indicate that they felt that none of the candidates the Republicans put foreward represent their views?

Well Chief, it seems pretty clear to me. The traditional Republican Party (Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, even Ronald Reagan) is dead. Even the few previously moderate candidates turned hard right this election cycle. Republican members of Congress are being threatened to swing hard right or face being "primary'd". Take a look at who is advising Willard. Former members of the Bush Administration and other peripheral neo-conservatives.
Those who consider themselves traditional Republicans or conservatives have little choice but to either hold their noises, dumb down and join the NeoRepublicans or become conservative independents.

@CPO,

If you look at any poll aggregators, you will see that Obama has led since Romney became the presumptive GOP candidate. There has not been a day that Romney has been ahead in all polls combined. A good place to look is:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Ladbrook's (which has picked every presidential winner since Teddy Roosevelt) says Obama by 4-to-1. 538 says Obama has a 73.3% of winning to Romney's 26.7%.

Ol Doc: Have you noticed, many of the old-school Republicans are leaving government service....many because they are sick and tired of the lack of consideration for what is ACTUALLY good for their constituents, the threats from people like Norquist (if you don't play my way, you don't get to play at all), and the total lack of compromise we see in today's government? I, for one, don't blame them, but I wish they would get backbones and stay and fight their fellow Republicans!! Maybe if enough of the Republicans who are just a little right of center would kick the others to the curb, we'd see some bipartisan participation and things getting done!!!

Didi-376564 - I know this is going to sound a little insane, but I morn their passing. A solid conservative "loyal opposition" is actually a good reality check. Unfortunately that does not describe the current "Republican" party. They do not see Democrats as their "loyal opposition", they see us as the enemy. Unfortunately I don't see the two sides coming together. This election holds no healing experience. Conservatives seem to feed off of fear and it would appear they fear us as much as the do Muslims. What I'm beginning to see is one of two outcomes. Either we are severely attacked by an external force (something much worse than 9/11), which "might" bring us together, at least for a while...or we go our separate ways (probably violently). If anyone has a third logical alternative that doesn't involve an invisible, omnipotent deity, I'd like to hear it.

You know all it would take is a few Obama supporters along the way to wave signs that says show us your tax's every time he stops. But on the other and he is just going to fly to each state the next morning to start the tour again.But it would be fun to see them do it.

Ol_Doc? Doesn't sound insane to me at all. But please don't allow politics and media to influence your opinion on the general goodness of folks. I have many friends and family who are extreme conservatives, and yet, we all get along over some BBQ'd roast and ice cold beer....maybe a pitcher of sweet tea, and some spicy hot wings? I think....politics is a bit like Kabuki theater. All props, over the top masks and exaggerated motions. But when a real disaster strikes, or the need arrises, we put our differences asside, and come together to help one another, because we are all one community! I think Carl Rove, Roger Ailes and Newt Gingrich have done our political system a grave disservice, all in the name of "winning". I believe history will not be kind to them.

Ol Doc-

I think you're right. I miss guys like Barry Goldwater. I don't think I ever agreed with him, but you could always see his point, and he knew that there was always some kind of middle ground.

Too much of the tea party movement is based on ignorance and propaganda. The rank and file of the tea party actually believe they're part of a grass roots movement. They don't realize they're being manipulated by the Rupert Murdochs and Koch Brothers of the world.

The problem is that the string-pullers saw early on that their radical ideas were gaining traction, and they're becoming more shrill and more extreme nearly every day. I don't think the Koch's really give a whit one way or the other about gay marriage, contraception, or abortion, but they've seen that these hot-button topics play well with their base, so they're letting them run wild.

The left has, out of necessity, started swinging back and (finally) showing some backbone. I'm not a big fan of negative campaigning, but if you're in a dirty fight, you have to fight dirty or lose.

Hopefully soon some of the real Republicans out there will tire of all the histrionics and hysteria and stand up and push for real Republican candidates again. They've already lost some good ones, and more will fall if the GOP doesn't learn to control their backward cousins.

Chris-749391,

Instead of going with the Liberal mouthpiece New York Times, why don't you look at the Rasmussen polls that have shown both people switching leads back and forth. As to your predictions of Romney loosing in a landslide, take a look at Wisconsin and you will see how people are reacting to Obama and the Liberal machine. Obama will lose and lose badly.

Because Rassmussen is a right-wing outlier.

Get it through your head, dupe: MAINSTREAM is MAJORITY. The polls you REJECT are MAINSTREAM. Sucking on Rupert Murdoch's lollipop is the equivalent of putting a loaded gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger.

Tbenton "Chris-749391, Instead of going with the Liberal mouthpiece New York Times, why don't you look at the Rasmussen polls that have shown both people switching leads back and forth."

Don't confuse him with Facts, his mind's already made up.

Interestingly, I took 4 separate polls (NBC/WSJ, NPR, PEW, and FOX), and when I made the adjustments because they all over-sampled Democrats - by as much as 52%, and then made the standard Registered/Likely Voter adjustment (see link for explanation), they were all in agreement within 1% - Romney is ahead by about 3% among Likely Voters.

http://www.polimerican.com/adults-vs-registered-vs-likely-voters/

JNagarya "Because Rassmussen is a right-wing outlier."

That's what they said in 2004 and 2008 too, until he had the most accurate polls for those two elections - missing the actual spread by only 1%, and his so-called 'bias' was virtually non-existent - unlike virtually ALL of the other major pollsters that were biased in favor of the Democrats, when compared with actual results.

The average error for Gallup, Reuters, FOX and Marist all had errors of about 3 times as much as Rasmussen, and their average bias in favor of Democrats was about 9 times as great as Rasmussen.

The left wing orchestrated campaign of misinformation about Rasmussen doesn't stand up to scrutiny - at least not in the Presidential elections. They just don't like his results.

Union Baby -

Hmmm, interesting thought.....if you polled Republican voters as to which state Romney was governor of, I wonder how many would say Utah or Michigan or some other state instead of Massachusetts? He doesn't exactly advertise it, does he? Could that be because people in your neck of the woods might then mistake him for being a moderate (or even, gasp, a liberal!), instead of being "severely conservative"? Or is it another way of distancing himself from RomneyCare?

P.S. - Next time you're driving from Baltimore to Boston, stop in and say hello - I'm only about a mile off of I-95!

JoAnne -

I was just in Baltimore a few weeks ago, a short stop on our way to Ocean City, MD for our annual beach vacation.

My wife's grandmother lived in Shrewsbury, PA and before she passed away we used to stop by every year to vist her. I really missed it this year.

Note that Romney says nothing about Massachusetts. And he can't: the Republicans have for years bashed the state as "Liberal".

There have been interviews with voters -- women, especially -- who voted for McSame, but are now going to vote for President Obama. They don't trust Romney -- refusal to release tax returns; attacks on Obamacare and women's health concerns.

Ann Coulter has a mind to lose? I thought she was a mannequin stolen from a store window, and the only thing in her head was a microchip planted by Karl Rove. That "woman" scares me.

As for Coulter, and for that matter, Sarah Palin, beauty is only skin deep. Some of the most beautiful women I know - are beautiful because of their hearts and minds, not because of their partisanship, or..... their looks.

I disagree, I think they are paying attention and that is why Romney is tanking.

pjam09 - I still hear that rattling, gurgling noise pjam.

...do you?

One month, after Romney is selected at the GOP convention, he will be UNELECTABLE!

The Dems know something about this man and they will tell everyone what it is after the election.

Funny how you choose to believe that "lead" is the opposite of "defense". America is sick of the negative ATTACK ads, but that is all Obama has, that is why Romeny has to be defense. Obama wants nothing to do discussion of his failed job performance.

that is why Romeny has to be defense. Obama wants nothing to do discussion of his failed job performance.

pjam09- Sorry your candidate sucks. Even the FOX NEWS POLL has Obama up by 9. So tell me pam, WHAT ARE ROMNEYS SOLUTIONS?

He behind in part because he HAS NO IDEAS. And hes HIDING SOMETHING in his un-re;leased Tax Returns. His 59 point table of contents is just a vague outline with no specifics. He says he can create 12 million jobs in his first term (chuckle) How?

Since Pam here is SO into Romney, she must know what his policy prosals are, right?

Pam, tell us Romneys SOLUTIONS for unenployment and the debt ...ready...GO!

Most of the recent polling is Democrat heavy in the sampling. The Fox poll was of registered voters and not likely voters. Of those polled by Fox only 4 out of 10 said they were paying attention to the race, and of those more were for Romney then Obama. So we shall see when everyone is paying attention this fall if the numbers being reported remain the same. One thing for sure, over reporting a candidates lead is not always smart, especially when would be voters think it is in the bag so no need to turn out. Carter lead Reagan by 8 points heading into the election and lost by 10, which pretty much proves the inaccuracy of polls.

oh haven't you heard 2-lane gypsy? Mitten's gonna cut the taxes on the richest, once again. Like that works so well for the rest of us

TO: skip1 who wrote:

"The Romney campaign seems to be always on defense, instead of taking the lead."

Romney probably would try to take the "lead" but he doesn't know which way to go, and the Teagaggers took away his etch-a-sketch.

Everytime Romney TRIES to move to the middle, he's got the RWNJs on his Campaign Bus forcing him back in lock step with the wackos!

Obama/Biden 2012

Rick-3416939 - I'm guessing you're still in the first stage of grief.

1. Denial — "I feel fine."; "This can't be happening, not to my party."
   Denial is usually only a temporary defense for the party. This feeling is generally replaced with heightened awareness of possessions and individuals that will be left behind after defeat. Denial can be conscious or unconscious refusal to accept facts, information, or the reality of the situation. Denial is a defense mechanism and some people can become locked in this stage.
2. Anger — "Why us? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to us?"; '"It's Obama's fault?"
   Once in the second stage, the individuals within the party recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the party is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. Anger can manifest itself in different ways. Members can be angry with themselves, or with the other party, and especially those who are close to them (RINOs). It is important to remain detached and nonjudgmental when dealing with a party experiencing anger from grief.
3. Bargaining — "I'll do anything for a few more votes."; "I will give my life savings if..."
   The third stage involves the hope that the party can somehow postpone or delay defeat. Usually, the negotiation for an extended relevance is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Psychologically, the individual party members are saying, "I understand I will be defeated, but if I could just do something to buy more time..." People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?.." when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it's a matter of congressional minority.
4. Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother voting?"; "I'm going to be defeated soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my tax breaks, why go on?"
   During the fourth stage, the dying party begins to understand the certainty of defeat. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and grieving. This process allows the defeated party member to disconnect from things of love and affection. It is not recommended to attempt to cheer up an individual who is in this stage. It is an important time for grieving that must be processed. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the 'aftermath'. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It's natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation.
5. Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for Obama's reelection."

@Rick

One slight little problem with your hypothesis/spin/deflection there buddy...if only 4 out of 10 in the DUMFUX poll say they're paying attention since it's a DUMFUX poll probably the only media they pay attention to is DUMFUX itself.

That means the 6 out of 10 who aren't paying attention are actually better informed as they haven't been immersed in the DUMFUX propaganda for the past several months.

They'll probably poll WORSE for Romney as a result.

romneys only position has been on his knees.

Romney is not moving left or rt...he is just being himself...flip flopping on every issue. Mr. pander pants has one leg that was left and another on the rt. He has to be on both sides of evey issue.

Whom ever he picks will be better than idiot Byedum

A Vet Here

Whom ever he picks will be better than idiot Byedum

We'll let America judge this November...lmao

In 40 days Romney will be UNELECTABLE. Just wait and see.

With over sampling of Democrats being reported in almost every recent poll, it would seem you are accusing the wrong party of buying the pollsters. Any poll of registered voters instead of likely is almost worthless. But if they make you happy then good for you.

He's even flip-flopping his own campaign tactics!

TO: Rick-3416939 who wrote:

"With over sampling of Democrats being reported in almost every recent poll, it would seem you are accusing the wrong party of buying the pollsters. Any poll of registered voters instead of likely is almost worthless. But if they make you happy then good for you."

What a tickle!

When the wackos won't even listen to their own pollsters you KNOW they're in trouble.

I wouldn't think that Faux Noise would take an "over sampling" of Democrats" so much as we now have Republicans voting for President Obama.

4 More for 44!

Obama/Biden 2012

American Girl-724855, don't worry about their polls. They'll commission a Rasmussen poll and Rasmussen will design the questions with just the right slant to give them the conservative results they are designed to give that they want. Rasmussen is a conservative pollster who designs their polls to elicit a more conservative response, a few percentage points in the direction they want, than would a poll with completely neutral questions.

I agree, he does not pass the visual lie detector test, he would be more calm and talk sincerely and firmly without a laugh. He looks like a rookie poker player that is getting his bluff called by the seasoned card players.

Best,description I have seen yet of this empty suit.

He is a guy who as a CEO has always been surrounded by sycophants and never been questioned. All he has ever had to do as the rich kid born on third base is,listen to his,own press clippings about how great he is.

Now sunlight is interfering with his fallacious view of himself and the results ain't pretty in terms of utterly unprepared he is for the combat of Presidential politics as well as anything substantive to get the nation moving again.

Hey John Nail, Ha, perhaps Romney should have spent a few years "community organizing" that seems to help.

BigBear, the poker player analogy was spot on.

Well that is the point, if there is nothing to hide why not release them, why "take the fifth" when all squeaky clean and innocent. He probably has broken no laws, but feels that his taxes would be politically damaging to him, if he thought they would help his campaign, he would have released them long ago.

Rick-3416939

Once the actual Romney campaign begins after the convention, along with the Super PAC's lined up against Obama, some lame tax issue that only liberals are crying about will be long forgotten. It will be Obama on the daily defensive over his failures and lack of leadership. The Obama divide and conquer campaign strategy will be taking a beating. Should be fun to watch.

Translation: Our corporate masters will spend billions of dollars to buy this election.

Rick-3416939

"Once the actual Romney campaign begins after the convention...".

Sorry I was too busy convulsing with laughter to read any further.

Um,if his "actual" campaign hasn't already begun then what the Hell has Team Mittens been spending 100's of millions of dollars on?

Buying votes for Ann's dressage horse?

(oops...that didn't turn out so well either...wonder where the horse was outsourced to afterwards...my guess is the glue factory.)

He just appears so phony, he acts like he can't make up his mind which lie to tell when he's questioned by reporters. That's why he rarely gives interviews except to Fox. At Fox, he and the interviewer can practice the questions and answers to make him more believable before the actual interview.

Mark my word today, 8/10/2012, that Mitt Romney will be UNELECTABLE in forty days. Then we will vote every GOP incumbent out of office this November.

We need to every Grover/Rove stooge out of the House and Senate!

And the original "Dream Team" was the best of all time! (Basketball)

Yup!

ZMan2012, the President got a bump in his approval rating after bin Laden was killed (not captured) but it's not the driving issue of this election. The recession was a crushing blow to most folks - my 401K took a 40% nose-dive! But things are turning around and that's what's most important.

Romney might fare a little better in the polls if he'd give us something solid on his plan for jobs, tax reform and turning the economy around. But all he offers is "anything but Obama" and that's just not good enough to get folks mildly interested (let alone, excited).

I'm encouraged by these latest polls, but I certainly don't feel the election is a cakewalk.

It's Grump not Gump ZMan, I never say it will be a cake walk, but Obama will win because most of the country does not see his initiatives as having failed as much as just having been blocked by republicans at every turn even when they were originally republican proposals. He has not failed on every promise he has made, the big failure and a big part of Romney's political problems are house republicans who were swept in on a promise of job, jobs, jobs, and then completely abandoned that promise, and did nothing but promote conservative social issues. They have the lowest approval rating in the history of those recorded numbers and many people will take out their disdain for them on the republican presidential candidate, they sure are not going to reward them with a republican president. In the end the problem is largely Romney himself, he is not new he has been around for years, and has a long history, so it is not so easy for him to just reinvent himself, too many documented contradictions, he does not excite republicans one bit, they don't even know who he is, the only thing they can say for him is that he is not Obama. Vote for me I am not Obama, will just not cut in a general election. Come to think of it now that his campaign spokesperson was bragging up Romneycare some republicans are no longer sure as they would like to be that he is not Obama.

thetotas -

If Romney is so bad, why is the race so tight?

Three good reasons, off the top of my head:

1) Bad Economy - It is getting better, but there are still a lot of people out of work. They will give Romney (or anyone else) a chance to convince them it can get better faster.

2) Millions of dollars in negative advertising - Romney & pro-Romney Super PACs have bombarded the airwaves with ads that take Obama's words out of context. Some of them, liek the Welfare ad, hit home to un-informed voters who don't know its a "blatant" lie.

3) "ABO" - Anyone But Obama - most Republicans hate President Obama so much (for varying reasons) that they would vote for the Devil himself if he had an (R) after his name.

I will answer your question with a question Thetotas, if Obama is so bad why isn't it a blowout for Romney.

I won't go on my full rant about those wormy unpatriotic pukes that publicly stated right after Obama won an electoral landslide by the American electorate that their one and only top priority was to see him fail, to make sure he was a one term president. I'll leave it at this I believe their Waterloo strategy has failed them, as well it should. Unlike some republicans the electorate does not blame a single man for all our woes, they waterlooed the republican brand as much or more as they did Obama. According to some republicans if Obama went to hell he would be on a throne and the devil would be packing. So again I'll ask the question if Obama is so bad why is it not a blow out, the answer is he is not that bad and Romney is just not that good.

And pjam09, you need to get a better post.

Laytone - And pjam09, you need to get a better post.

Not gonna happen. pjam09 is soooooo out of steam he just posts the same nonsense over and over!

Obama/Biden 2012

TO: ZMan2012 who wrote:

"... Obama, for the most part, has been given a pass on every failed initiative he has attempted, and every failed promise that he made..."

I think you're confusing a Republican mantra with an actual "fact" which is why Republicans create mantras, also known as "talking points", and then beat their voters over the head everyday repeating the same talking points, in hopes that somebody, anybody, would believe their rhetoric.

The weak minded Republicans tend to unquestionably adopt and adapt to the brainwashing.

Obama/Biden 2012

Forrest, don't forget about the 15 senior members of Congrees who met in secret, conspiring to block any and all initiatives proposed by President Obama. Their stated goal was to make Obama a 1 term President.

Attending the dinner were House members; Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungen, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate; Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyle. Newt Gingrich and Frank Luntz attended as well.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=51766

Is this what the "Republican" party has become? That certainly doesn't look like Republican idealogy to me.

And pjam09, you need to get a better post.

Its all shes got. I asked her to tell us Romney's SOLUTIONS and POLICY PROPOSALS. She can't do it , and no other knuckledraggin birther on here can either.

Where are Romney's ideas? Where are his specifics? Where are his TAx Returns.

Romney has NOTHNG for the Middle Class. Romney has NO CORE

Oh JT don't get me started I am with you 100%. Remember when this same crowd said it was unpatriotic to publicly criticize Bush because he was a wartime president and doing so would "embolden our enemies and put American lives in danger". What the hell happened to that line of thinking the day Obama was elected. How many people would be fired if they refused to do their job, simply because they don't like the new boss. These guys took an Oath of Office to represent the US to best of their ability, I don't think there is anything in there about trying to sabotage a presidency because you don't like the guy the American people selected. It is damn near treasonous and republicans should pay a price for tolerating such unprofessional, unproductive, and unpatriotic conduct by some of the highest elected government officials who are supposed to work for and represent the best interests of the entire nation. It's not right, it will never be right, it is way beyond politics, they crossed the line, and the American people will not be blackmailed as to who will be their next president. Friends don't let friends vote republican.

Forrest Grump 2.0Republicans have been campaigning against Obama since the day he took office, they have called him everything and blamed for everthing under the sun.

That's exactly their problem. They have attacked the President for so long with so much crap, the shock factor has worn off and they have nothing. Least of all a viable candidate.

pjam09

TNSEVOL - So you're one of the whopping 19% who actually think the economy is improving??? You need to get out more often.

Pjam - Do you hear that deep rattling sound in the collective throat of the Republican Party? Just re-read your own posts...you may hear it.

I think you are right Ol_Doc, the public has been told over and over the moat ridiculous things about Obama, he has no birth certificate, he is a Muslim, death panels, socialist, communists, Marxists, Nazi, and all manner of quite silly over the top insults, to such an extent that now even legitimate criticisms are rendered virtually meaningless. Meanwhile the republicans shot themselves in the foot with their Waterloo strategy, because in trying to deprive Obama of any accomplishments they also deprived themselves of any accomplishments. So now when they rail "whatever it is that ails you, it is all Obama's fault he is the devil", most people just take it for just what it is, the silly ramblings of a bunch of sore losers who accomplished exactly what they set out to, which was absolutely nothing. Welcome to Waterloo Mitt.

Yea, wouldnt it be wonderful to continue the policy of the decline of our country???

UAW - Real polls are already showing that Obama is finished... you have to look at real news sites if you are too dim to figure it out on your own:

Optimism about economy down, poll shows

"The number of people who say the economy is starting to recover has dropped 5 points since April, from 24 percent to 19 percent, while the number who say that the economy remains in a downturn is up 6 points to 39 percent, a CNN/ORC International poll released Friday shows.

"That all seems bad news for President Barack Obama's re-election chances,..says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/optimism-economy-down-poll-shows-093440014.html

TO: J.A-522495 who wrote:

"Yea, wouldnt it be wonderful to continue the policy of the decline of our country???"

Don't worry, we're not going to let Romney get in, and we're NOT returning to Republicans' failed policy of "tricle down economics" that never trickled down!

Obama/Biden 2012

The other question that I have is why is the socialist left so ignorant and anti-american??? The are truely pathetic....not really american in any sense of the word...

J.A. (presumably Jack Ass abbreviated), just not boot lickin' American in your sense of the world

pjam09

UAW - Real polls are already showing that Obama is finished... you have to look at real news sites if you are too dim to figure it out on your own:

Just before lapsing into final unconsciousness and respiratory arrest, the patient often suffers an involuntary loss of bowel control. Up to now I thought I heard the death rattles of the Republican Party but after reading your post I think I smell something too. It smells like terminal desperation.

Sick

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It doesn't matter. Too is "also" where to is just to.

What matters is that every single GOP incumbent, Grover/Rove follower, is voted out of office this November.

too too too- Republican crying on election day

And yet Democrats have been the only ones caught airing propaganda lies about an imaginary death from lost health benefits.

No, in fact they haven't. Every article I've read so far has stated that that ad has never actually been aired. But again, there's still a difference between a group supporting Obama making questionable claims (though the situation may still have been worth discussing in other terms), and Romney and his immediate staff repeating over and over how Obama is eliminating the work for welfare requirements. That's just so far from the truth either Romney's entire team are willfully lying, or they're complete idiots. Which one of those explanations would make him a good president?

You might to pay attention to the real world sometime... Obama and his failed job performance are tanking.

Optimism about economy down, poll shows

"The number of people who say the economy is starting to recover has dropped 5 points since April, from 24 percent to 19 percent, while the number who say that the economy remains in a downturn is up 6 points to 39 percent, a CNN/ORC International poll released Friday shows.

"That all seems bad news for President Barack Obama's re-election chances,..says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/optimism-economy-down-poll-shows-093440014.html

TO: pjam09 who wrote:

"You might to pay attention to the real world sometime... Obama and his failed job performance are tanking. Optimism about economy down, poll shows..."

Just like those traitorous Republicans, ALWAYS hoping for the demise the United States and the American People!

Why not go back to your own planet!

Obama/Biden 2012

Yes, the TP/GOP want government to be small so it can fit up your vagina.

sargent....You believe the Obama karma is good??? The socialists are relying on karma? That is just wonderful.... The crappy economy is overshadowed by karma? People are going to vote for karma and to hell with anything else?

When Obama was sitting at Bill Ayers table....did they share that good karma?

Bill was helping the exchange student!!!!

Check the POTUS college transcripts and admission

records and Bill was doing noble work!

The Romney campaign said the polls could change next week. Yes, they might even be worse for Mitt.

JA Call it Karma, call it charisma, whatever. Mitt just don't have it.

It is hard to convince folks to vote for someone they don't like.

Loyal...And Obama and his buddy Ayers do have it??? Your brilliance is just overwhelming...How about Karl Marx? Do you think he had good Karma?? Too bad Che isnt on the ballet....automatic Karma votes from the left....

Ah come on, give Herman Munster (Romney) a break. And if he choses Eddie Munster (Paul Ryan) for a VP we'll all get a little entertainment out of this campaign.

just sayin'

Why do you fellows keep going back to those old dead people, to disparage???? Don't ya know any modern day villains to hate???? Karl Marks, really???? Shaking my head and smiling big Howdy Doody smiles!!

Yes, you are probably well known for your Howdy Doody smile.....and the shaking thing....

JA Why can you guys only answer observations with an irrelevant deflection?How does "ya but he/she /somebody did it first" make any sense?

The topic was Bishop Romney's difficultly in connecting with the multitude. How can you segue that to Karl Marx without looking ridiculous?