Romney: Bill Clinton strikes back

Bill Clinton in a statement on Romney’s welfare attack: “Governor Romney released an ad today alleging that the Obama administration had weakened the work requirements of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. That is not true. The act emerged after years of experiments at the state level, including my work as Governor of Arkansas beginning in 1980.  When I became President, I granted waivers from the old law to 44 states to implement welfare to work strategies before welfare reform passed.

“After the law was enacted, every state was required to design a plan to move people into the workforce, along with more funds to help pay for training, childcare and transportation. As a result, millions of people moved from welfare to work. The recently announced waiver policy was originally requested by the Republican governors of Utah and Nevada to achieve more flexibility in designing programs more likely to work in this challenging environment.  The Administration has taken important steps to ensure that the work requirement is retained and that waivers will be granted only if a state can demonstrate that more people will be moved into work under its new approach.  The welfare time limits, another important feature of the 1996 act, will not be waived. The Romney ad is especially disappointing because, as governor of Massachusetts, he requested changes in the welfare reform laws that could have eliminated time limits altogether.  We need a bipartisan consensus to continue to help people move from welfare to work even during these hard times, not more misleading campaign ads.”

USA Today: “Former President Bill Clinton is backing up successor Barack Obama, blasting a Mitt Romney ad attacking the incumbent over welfare reform as untrue.”

The Romney campaign’s response from Ryan Williams: “President Obama was a vocal opponent of the innovative, bipartisan welfare reforms that President Clinton and a Republican Congress passed in 1996. His administration has now undermined the central premise of those reforms by gutting the welfare-to-work requirement. Unlike President Obama, Mitt Romney has a record of fighting to strengthen work requirements. As president, he will ensure that nearly sixteen years of progress aren’t erased with one stroke of a pen.”

The Boston Globe: “Romney says Obama favors 'culture of dependency'.”

The Iowa wind story isn’t blowing away: “Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign has been savaging what it calls President Barack Obama’s ‘unhealthy’ obsession with ‘green jobs,’”  the AP writes. “The Republican challenger criticizes the government program that propped up solar manufacturer Solyndra, and he mocks Obama’s vision of a boom in employment, citing a European study to argue that new solar or wind-energy positions would destroy jobs elsewhere. But when a campaign spokesman said last week that Congress should let a tax break for wind energy producers expire at the end of the year, some Republicans were concerned the candidate had gone too far.

“Republican Rep. Tom Latham, R-Iowa, noting that nearly 7,000 Iowans work in the wind industry, assailed the Romney campaign for ‘a lack of full understanding of how important the wind energy tax credit is for Iowa and our nation.’ Iowa’s senior senator, Chuck Grassley, told reporters he didn’t believe Romney really opposed the extension, and he joined five other GOP lawmakers in voting for it in the Senate Finance Committee.”

“A group that opposes the Boy Scouts of America’s ban on gay members is using presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney to help make its case,” the Boston Globe notes. “Romney’s campaign restated his position that gay people should be allowed to join the Boy Scouts of America in an Associated Press story published on Saturday. Romney first declared his support for gay scouts and leaders in 1994 -- when he was a member of the organization’s executive board -- during an unsuccessful run for US Senate. In a debate that year, Romney said, ‘I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.’ Romney campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul told the AP that the former Massachusetts governor nominee feels the same way today.”

The RNC announced more speakers at their convention, including Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, whom RNC Chair Reince Priebus called a headliner. Also speaking: Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, who is African American; Texas Republican U.S. Senate Nominee Ted Cruz; Puerto Rico Governor Luis Fortuño; and Georgia Attorney General Sam Olens.

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Willard Romney, The Lying POS, "DAMN GOOD AT LYING."

  • 30 votes
#1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

When all you've done your whole life is lie, cheat and steal you get pretty good at it.

  • 27 votes
#1.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:41 AM EDT

Romney claimed that Bill Clinton would be disappointed in President Obama's waiver policy. Bill Clinton turns around and spells out why he is for President Obama's waiver policy and that Romney is wrong. Romney now claims hat Clinton is just lying to back President Obama.

The Administration has taken important steps to ensure that the work requirement is retained and that waivers will be granted only if a state can demonstrate that more people will be moved into work under its new approach. The welfare time limits, another important feature of the 1996 act, will not be waived. The Romney ad is especially disappointing because, as governor of Massachusetts, he requested changes in the welfare reform laws that could have eliminated time limits altogether.

Romney will argue 'til he's blue in the face that he's right, and what actually is written in black and white is wrong.

  • 29 votes
#1.2 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:25 PM EDT
libsuxDeleted

libsux

Just give Bill a cigar and an intern, and he'll talk about anything.

especially about his below 4% unemplyment, smaller government, balanced budget, no wars, good economy.

Give George W Bush a pretzel, and he will fall off the couch.

  • 26 votes
#1.4 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

And rightwingers are boohooing about the president's ads -- no comparison!

  • 16 votes
#1.5 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

Dude, don't be such a dipsh!t. Why are you commenting about Obama when the article is about Romney?

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

AT LAST, AT LAST. One thing I can agree with Mitt Romney on. But I suspect his approval of Gays participation in Boy Scouts it not a big winner at the GOP convention.

  • 6 votes
#1.7 - Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

Clinton is gonna have a Great Speeh for romney..pos..

romney distorts and lies,cheats, steals American Jobs American Lives.

romney after all these years of campaigning and still no one "likes you"

  • 13 votes
#1.8 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

romulan has no problem letting lies get in the way of facts.

watch the thing on youtube.. twenty years of COMPLETELY contradicting statements, from pro-choice/pro-life, to jobs, to taxes, to medicare, to obamacare. f-ing liar will say ANYTHING depending on who he thinks he is talking to.

  • 12 votes
#1.9 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

So is Obama

  • 3 votes
#1.10 - Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

No, PRESIDENT OBAMA is not even in the same POS category as Mittens. Good for Bill Clinton. I applaud him coming out and telling the American people that Mitt Romney is a liar. We all knew it anyway.

  • 15 votes
#1.11 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

Clinton is the liar! I know of many people in Maine who have been on welfare (TANF) since 1995. The requirement for a 5 year limit is waived by many states.

These folks work under the table, have section 8 housing, TANF, food stamps and even get a voucher for an automobile where no public transportation is available and government paid cell phones.

    #1.12 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

    Rombush and his sidekick Ryan are two bags of lieing smelly steer manure.

    • 1 vote
    #1.13 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:01 PM EDT

    Bobby-2359554, the 'I know of many people' BS just mirrors Fox News faux-hosts who say, 'well I heard, the word is, someone said,' and all the GOP leaders AND followers like you move their heads up and down like dog nodders in the rear-view window. Harry Reid turns the tables around using the same 'logic' and says 'someone' told him about Romney, and the GOP/followers like you go rabid like someone is blowing a dog whistle. Pavlov would be proud.

      #1.14 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:24 AM EDT

      Romney knows that he cannot win on the merits, e.g., his experience, his policies (as best we can understand them from the little we know), and so he needs to resort to lies.

        #1.15 - Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:52 PM EDT
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        Most TANF recipients are mothers of young children. According to Ann Romney, they already have a job. What's the problem for Mitt with making work requirements flexible?

        • 21 votes
        Reply#2 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

        They are/were policed loosely enough. This just makes it a bit easier to "float".

          #2.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:34 AM EDT

          the work requirement is retained and that waivers will be granted only if a state can demonstrate that more people will be moved into work under its new approach. The welfare time limits, another important feature of the 1996 act, will not be waived

          Talk to the Hand

          please show all of us how this policy makes it easier to "float"? You need to back up your claim. I know you are learning from Romney's School of You Just Have To Trust Me, but I would like some hard facts.

          • 19 votes
          #2.2 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

          So you must be on Maine's welfare

            #2.3 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:23 PM EDT
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            Romney, why are you still blowing the dog whistle for your base? Shouldn't you be doing something to show what YOU would do. Its a little late in the game for this kind of tactic. I also question the wisdom of attacking social safety net programs when the economy is stagnant. If Obama really is the "Food Stamp" (dogwhistle) President, doesn't this kind of attack consolidate HIS base? Not only is it a lie, it's pretty shortsighted.

            • 24 votes
            Reply#3 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:48 AM EDT

            Romney is bordering on racism with his lie about welfare, heck so did Newt and others. Romney IS desperate, but I can't believe rightwingers are still doing this crap.

            The Teapublicans want to go back to the Dark Ages, whether women's rights or civil rights, or Jindal teaching Flat Earth Society garbage via vouchers with YOUR tax dollars.

            It's the 21st Century -- Voters get to the polls and stop this radical rightwing carnage!

            • 16 votes
            #3.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:26 PM EDT
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            Detroit,

            the reason Romney superpacs are using the dog whistle of "welfare" is that they are getting desperate. Just throw anything at the wall and see if it sticks.

            That is not the way to win an election.

            Obama will be reelected.

            • 26 votes
            Reply#4 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

            "welfare" in the minds of many also has racist connotations (like the whole birther movement).

              #4.1 - Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:54 PM EDT
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              I thought neocons wanted states rights, what happend, do they only want that if their guys says they can have it? Guess they are still locked in that "my way or they highway" mode of georgie w.

              • 18 votes
              Reply#5 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

              Union

              Pundits say the GOP welfare add is aimed at downscale republicans (uneducated white males). They are not expected to make the states rights connection to to the HHS routine administrative move. That would require political sophistication not available from Limpak.

              • 5 votes
              #5.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 7:25 PM EDT
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              I think we all know that clinton vs romney would be a disaster for romney, unfortunately prebius has yet to inform mitt that Bill Clinton will mop the floor with him during his speech at the convention. Can't wait, that is going to be a good night, a very good night.

              • 23 votes
              Reply#6 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:05 AM EDT

              It will be an interesting speech when Clinton takes romney down...LOL.

              Obama/Biden 2012 AMERICAS CHOICE!!!

              • 14 votes
              #6.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

              Love me some Bill Clinton!

              • 11 votes
              #6.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:50 AM EDT

              Except that it is OBAMA running for re-election, not Clinton. Is Obama so weak that Clinton has to do his heavy lifting? A vote for Obama is a vote for Bill Clinton? May as well be, except as dishonest as Clinton is, Obama beats him hands down.

              • 1 vote
              #6.3 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:23 PM EDT
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              Even though I have never respected Clinton on a personal level (sex and lying to congress), I have grown to respect him as a policy maker and doing things that were right for the country (welfare reform, going center during as President) - what respect I have for him is slowly going away with this change in Politics in trying to get this President re-elected. If ANY Republican had completely reverse his statements from day to day like Pres. Clinton has over the past few months -(making comments about welfare, tax increases, etc. and then completely reversing them after this President and the Dems get onto him is a joke).... the Media would be totally distroying him and his credibility on a daily basis. Please, Pres. Clinton - stick to telling us your true feeling and NOT what this President and the Dems want you to say.

              • 1 vote
              Reply#7 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:19 AM EDT

              Let me see if I understand Cox. As long as President Clinton or anyone else agrees with you and the republicans you respect them. but if on any one issue they disagree with you then you lose all respect for them. You know what Cox? Nobody including President Clinton really cares weather you conservative republicans respect us or not. Heck you people don't even respect each other.

              • 26 votes
              #7.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

              Heck you people don't even respect each other

              They are terrified of 'each other'.......Dick walking back is comment about Palin being 'a mistake'!.....

              They are lost in the wilderness of the TeaPeople!

              • 23 votes
              #7.2 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

              mo -- you nailed it. President Obama could care less about anyone who disagrees with him. He is the President of the United States in name only but in reality is only President of the people that agree with him.

              Thanks for you honest assessment.

              • 5 votes
              #7.3 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

              chilled

              They are terrified of 'each other'.......Dick walking back is comment about Palin being 'a mistake'!.....

              and Palin in return calling him dick...'I mean VP Cheney...'

              that was priceless!

              • 15 votes
              #7.4 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

              billybob-6210632

              mo -- you nailed it. President Obama could care less about anyone who disagrees with him. He is the President of the United States in name only but in reality is only President of the people that agree with him.

              show me examples

              • 8 votes
              #7.5 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:32 PM EDT

              @bayllie

              I had to laugh at her myself....Dick, dick.......yikes, I guess that's when Dick knew he needed to 'fix' what he said about her.....of course what he said is true!

              • 11 votes
              #7.6 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

              chilled,

              dick..I mean Dick does not care about anybody so it makes you wonder who pressured him to "fix" it. Cheney doesn't even care what the world thinks of him - he still defends torture - so why does Failin' Palin matter?

              • 10 votes
              #7.7 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 2:49 PM EDT

              who pressured him to "fix" it.

              Maybe there's a spark of humanity in Dicks' new heart?.....Nah!

              • 3 votes
              #7.8 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:37 PM EDT

              Coxforusa, At first I didn't respect him,then I did,now I don't respect him again. Are you sure you aren't Mitt Romney using a different name. Sound just like him.

              • 8 votes
              #7.9 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 10:57 PM EDT

              That's kind of funny, COXFORUSA. You claim you've lost respect for Clinton because he's supposedly changed his opinions to get Obama re-elected. Yet, you seem willing to support Mitt Romney, a candidate who changes HIS opinions depending on the day of the week and the audience he's speaking to. Kind of ironic, don't you think?

              • 10 votes
              #7.10 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:25 PM EDT

              Romney lies about his lies when he lied saying his lies were not lies. Now Romney says the lies he lied about when he lied sayiing his lies were not lies, are lies because he retroactively took back the lies he lied about after he said he lied saying his lies were not lies.

              Burma Shave

              • 2 votes
              #7.11 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:39 PM EDT

              Dear folks,

              Clinton, Bush, Cheney, Carter, Palin etc. ARE NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE. Now if you think they are and are looking to them for your information about Obama, well, that says a great deal about your candidate choice. You either run on Obama's record or you don't. All the others out there have no power, no control, they won't be elected to office.

              As to lies and broken promises, Romney hasn't had control of the country for four years, unlike Obama. All the executive orders, broken campaign promises and billions and trillions of dollars either blown on stupid programs or used to pay-off unions and campaign backers and supporters ties directly to Obama. Real liberals are intelligent enough to worry that MF Global and Corzine are given a pass when Corzine STOLE a billion or two, intelligent liberals understand that Obama is Bush II and worse.

              Obama supporters aren't true and intelligent liberals, they are cult members of the cult of Obama.

              • 1 vote
              #7.12 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

              Let me understand this: Clinton lied about oral sex, which should not be anyone's business except for his wife, so he is not respected & went to impeachment hearings.

              G.W. Bush lied about WMD's knowing beforehand that his intelligence was not reliable, set Colin Powell up for embarrassment, in front of the U.N., and started an UN-FUNDED 10 year war in Iraq costing 10s of thousands of innocent servicemen's lives, crashed the economy, and all of that was ok? How is that OK?

              Sounds like treason to me. I hope G.W. dies penniless, however being personal friends with the Bin Laden family I doubt penniless will ever happen. That is why G.W. went on National TV and said Osama Bin Laden was no longer his concern. Why? Friendship with the rest of the family.

              Now Ryan and Mitt the Twit want to not only keep G.W.'s tax cuts, but want to double down on them. Where is the double tax shortfall going to be made up......off the people that do not qualify for the tax cut. Fair? Hell No. The American worker has raised productivity 4 times greater over the last 30 years, yet his pay has remained stagnate or was raised only 2%. How many autos, or any other product or services, will the rich 1% purchase?

              Now if you allow the other 99% to return to when they had some disposable income(more income than they have to spend on living expenses), how many autos, products, and services will the 99% purchase?

              Which group will keep businesses that offer products and services in business and may cause them to grow? Here is an easy visual....99% is 99 times 1%.

              Question: What has the Republican ever done for the hourly worker? I can not think of one thing. So, if you are an hourly worker, why oh why would you ever vote Republican? Pay attention to the new push to make states vote for "Right To Work Law." Look at ANY Right To Work State and compare the wages, working conditions, and safety. Right to work means "Right To Work For Less, without health care."

              Mitt/Ryan have not offered ANY hard numbers or definitions to ANYTHING they say they want to do if elected. WHy, oh why, would you vote for anyone that is like Forest Gump's "Box of Chocolates"; you never know what you are going to get. That is, until it is too late.

                #7.13 - Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:03 AM EDT
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                It is becoming increasingly clear how desperate the Hope & Change guy has become. Gone is the "touchy-feely" character that was packaged for consumption in 2008 to be replaced with the real guy Chicago Political Thug.

                When Barry has to call on BJ Bill to save the day nothing more needs to be said.

                I hear that Monica will have a good seat under the podium for BJ Bill's speech. That information comes from a reliable source in the Clinton Presidential library's VIP guest room. You know, the one in back which displays the photos of the many women BJ Bill has molested over the years.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#8 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:10 AM EDT

                Billybob says nothing more needs to be said and then writes another paragraph. Hey, pal, STFU if there is nothing more to say.

                • 13 votes
                #8.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:25 AM EDT

                For the record, I believe it was Romney who dragged Clinton into the conversation to support his criticism of Obama. Being that there is a large disparity in the IQ's of Romney and Clinton, I would change the subject immediately if I were Romney. The Republicans should leave that dog well enough alone, the American people still like Bill Clinton an awful lot. Especially after the last two presidents, a little back room hummer doesn't seem like all that big of deal anymore.

                  #8.2 - Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:25 PM EDT
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                  adler -- too confusing for your simple mind? two subjects. first closed by indicating nothing else need be said about it.

                  Second subject was reporting on BJ Bill's library setup.

                  try to keep up.

                  • 4 votes
                  Reply#9 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:35 AM EDT

                  Is that really all you have?

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                  thats all he has - trolls arent that imaginative - too full of hate

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.2 - Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:36 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  Fact check: Pam Bondi is Caucasian, not African-American.

                    Reply#10 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:59 PM EDT

                    This is really not all that difficult, folks. 1. Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago. 2. Americans get the Government they deserve.

                    Answer the question, and then vote.

                      Reply#11 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 1:02 PM EDT

                      Yes, we are. We DON'T have Bush anymore, and that alone makes us better off. We don't have a Republicscum president period, and THAT makes us better off.

                      #2. Yes we will get the Government we deserve. And the government we DESERVE is for the PEOPLE, NOT the RICH.

                      OBAMA 2012. The RICH rode free long enough. The GREEDY only get GREEDIER.

                      • 11 votes
                      #11.1 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                      Yes, we are.....we were pulled back from the edge of a real depression by Obama and his policies. We are slowly gaining strength. Romney and his ideas are not what we need now. What we need is for folks to vote to stop this log jam in congress. They have stopped over 100 of Obama's bills before they could even come up for a vote. Bills they had previously agreed with Then they want to call him a "do nothing" president after blocking all his attempts. I am convinced he saved us from a much worse fate. Mitt is not the answer.

                      • 11 votes
                      #11.2 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

                      Thank you Ohio BOB McQ!!!!! You are right on!

                      • 5 votes
                      #11.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

                      Wow Ron....ok I will vote like you said.......NOT...what do you think we all are?...Teabaggers? That folks is how Rove culls the sheeple of his flock.....

                      • 1 vote
                      #11.4 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:42 PM EDT

                      Keep drinking the cool-aide folks all the way to the bread lines. The display of left-wing talking points is impressive you guys do a great job of regurgitating the Democratic party's propaganda. The party of hate and intolerance is the Democratic party - you can see it with every seething post. All the 99% propaganda - race baiting and class envy has paid off with your little minds - let's just go ahead and distribute the wealth right out of the country - because that's where it is headed. President Obama is doing a great job of outsourcing the values that made this country great and leading the charge for America's decline - this guy has been a universal mistake. I just pray that the American people aren't led astray once again this cycle.

                        #11.5 - Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                        Dave, Clinton raised taxes and the rich didn't leave, now taxes are at their lowest and the rich are leaving? There was a $12 trillion loss by way of Bush Era trade and outsourcing policies. there was a $12 trillion loss in investments, retirement and home values because of Bush Era failed policies. There was millions of job losses, including 3+ million in just Bush's last year in office, where he had a 4% unemploment rate coming into office, and a 7.9% leaving office Jan. 2009, with the CBO predicting up to 10% by the end of 2009. THIS is what was left for President Obama to handle, including putting TWO unfunded wars and a medicare drug plan ON the books. No matter WHO would have been President, ALL THAT would have STILL been there, and needing taken care of. The only difference, is that Obama HAS been doing things, as opposed to ANY GOP who would have been President, to right wrongs done by the the GOP 'It's all about me and mine' Party.

                          #11.6 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:42 AM EDT
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                          The Obama campaign is full of scum, low life, disgusting, and false claims and the American people know it! The idiot video of the loser claiming he lost his job and his wife died from cancer is another disgusting portrayal and falsehood. The morons running this negative ad know this and want you to be distracted by BS so you will forget about the lousy record of the liar-in-chief.

                          All of you liberals who support Obozo this poor excuse for a leader and world class BSer get what you deserve! The dirty ads about Romneys spouse are disgusting and this is what you get from a dirty Chicago politican who continues to lie, cheat, and steal taxpayer money to support his maxist policies.

                          The GOP has not put up any disgusting ads about Obozo's family but maybe that would be a fair way to deal with scum bags running the Obozo campaign.

                          Hey, turn about is fair play. I know I could come up with some real good ads that will make all of you liberal fools blush! However, the Romney campaign has people with ethics and integrity running the show and not like the left wing liberal parasites!

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#12 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

                          Rick,

                          Have you heard a rumor about Michelle having an abortion?? Whats up with that??

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                          I was just thinking that same thing about you and the republican narcissists.

                          • 5 votes
                          #12.2 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                          Oh and Edward? Who gives a sh*t...good try though.

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                          I don't give a crap about Michelle's personal health issues. What I do care about is why a Presidential candidate has a swiss bank account and why he won't reveal his tax records.

                          This is a guy who claimed he's a job creator and brags about his business savvy. So why is he not disclosing?

                          It kills me that he runs on this while he tries so fervently to hide it. There's only one reason for it...and it leads me to believe Mitt should be in handcuffs.

                          Give him control over the entire US treasury? LOL...I don't think so.

                          • 6 votes
                          #12.4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                          Hey Rick Colo, I don't see you complaining about Bush STEALING $1.8 trillion out of the Social Security Fund, what's up with that?

                            #12.5 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:46 AM EDT

                            How about 2 wars to enrich your oil companies and other accomplices. How about telling old people ACA was a gov takeover of healthcare and death panels were coming to get Granny, dispicable lies to enrich their corporate masters while killing thousands of Americans and adding to soaring health care cost.Telling ignorant people that life is sacred and it is up to the government to decidel who should have babies and all the while killing millions of people to enrich their corporate masters. Deregulation that destroyed our economy.

                              #12.6 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:04 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              There you have it. ANOTHER Romney lie debunked. By the source. Romney will do and say anything to get elected, but you righwing crazies must be too ignorant to see it. It's not that difficult, though....you just refuse to admit you and your candidate are doomed. Big time.

                              Your candidate is a liar, a cheat and a tax evader. And all three can be proved in a flash. Idiots.

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#13 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 1:35 PM EDT

                              Versus a president who spends his time golfing, taking over 16 family vacations and hobnobbing with the Hollywood elite? This president sure seems to be concerned about the real issues. More Americans on food stamps, more debt accumulated, less people working....wow America sounds like heaven....NOT!!!!
                              What is wrong with thinking people need to work for what they have? Giving handouts because people prefer to be lazy and live off the government versus what the "rich" do WHICH IS WORK, doesn't sound too fair to me. Democrats want to put down those who earn what they bring home. If it wasn't for these people with drive to accomplish something in life then those welfare recipients would either have to learn to fend for themselves or die from laziness. I'm not referring to those people who actually can't work because of disabilities or elderly, I'm talking about those people who get food stamps and welfare who are perfectly able to work but don't have to. They'll just keep popping out babies and let the government pay for it.
                              Romney has been successful because of the work he's put into it. Hard work = success or at the least earning your own keep. Put the lazy people to work and stop coddling them with incentives to sit on their *sses and do nothing. Maybe we should limit the number of children welfare recipients can have. Right now they're just breeding generation welfare. And when these kids grow up who is going to work? The upperclass will keep getting smaller because they can't afford to actually work and have a lot of kids. So the money source will get smaller and the handout generation will get bigger. NOBAMA!!!

                              And blaming Romney for a husband's wife dying 5 years AFTER he was laid off from Bain. Really??? Dude, that's just stupid but I expect no less than this from liberals.

                              And Romney released his tax records as required by law. Now you say he hasn't paid taxes in ten years? Ok well the last four years have been under Obama's watch so are you telling me that the federal government is so incompetent that they didn't catch this so called tax evader??? Uh yeah right. Just shows how many incompetent people we have running the show here.

                              • 4 votes
                              #13.1 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

                              Elizabeth Rea Mathis

                              Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. I can tell you of at least 25 people I personally know who are collecting food stamps and medicaid, having their education paid for while being proud that they can make money off going to school rather than going to work, and have no intention of using any part of the classes they are taking to help them become employed. When it gets close to time for them to complete a set of credits that would award them a certificate/degree they decide to change their mind and go for something else. One particular family all live together in a two bedroom apartment paid for with Section 8 funding, consisting of Grandma, who is getting food stamps for all 6 of them, and going to school for free. She has never worked a day in her life and now at 53 y.o. she is suddenly interested in school. Then there is her daughter, who gets food stamps for all 6 of them and sits on her ass smoking pot and popping pills all day. Oh and the new baby she just had last month... she gets aide (money) and medicaid for. Then there is baby daddy who gets food stamps for all 6 of them, lays around the house with babymama all day smoking pot and popping pills. Doesn't intend to work. If he does he loses most of his "entitlements". And last but not least, the Son, who gets food stamps for all 6 of them, has never worked and is proud to let you know he can make more money selling drugs and getting 3 squares a day in and out of jail, which is where he is right now but still getting his handouts because they don't know he's in jail. Let me repeat.... this is 3 generations of one family, all living at the same address, all claiming each other for food stamps and other entitlements and GETTING THEM. No questions asked beyond the basic application, no further review, no check to see if they are looking for work or doing anything to make themselves employable. I am all for helping people who are trying to make a better life but I damned sure don't want to keep taking care of these low lifes.

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                              #13.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

                              OK, gotta tell you, this year I'm following the issues more than any other year. I'm on disability and am only 51 years old. Before I even applied, I lived with my disability for 20+ years. When I finally couldn't do it anymore and my job was being influenced by it, I finally applied. The disability physician who checked me out to verify my application before being granted, asked why I waited so long to apply...well, he answered the question himself, because I didn't want to give up and admit I just couldn't function.

                              I was in a 6 figure job then, and now collect 5X less than what I earned. I lived in my dream home, in an upper class neighborhood. Well, needless to say, I couldn't make it on that salary AND, declaring bankruptcy would be shameful to me, so I had to sell my home and moved back with my parents.

                              I've ALWAYS said EXACTLY what you said here. But, it seems like Romney/Ryan aren't meaning what you just said, which, if they DID, good Lord, I'd jump right on that bandwagon. They need to explain some of these facts without alienating or looking down upon those who REALLY need help.

                              NOW...the point of the matter is, the elderly. I would NOT support ANY change in "their" system as it is...AND, there are some elderly who can barely pay their electric bills. BUT, there are some retiree's who get more per month than some people in the workforce. There MUST be a way to solve those inequities to help out the elderly who are barely making ends meet. Many people forget it's these people who worked thru MISERABLE conditions, doing menial work, many dropping out of school to support their families....their own, but most importantly their mom's and other sibblings.

                              It's the ELDERLY that these guys need to focus on, as well. They NEED to remember that these elderly have "adult" care givers who believe that their parents need a little more to live and have a life where they don't have to sit in an unairconditioned house and die because of heat stroke. Or, sit in the dark.

                              These same children would LOVE to hear the gov't cares about their loved ones, and are NOT going to make their life MORE complicated or worse. They need to STRESS that these are things they WANT to do for the elderly and that they plan to focus on making their lives BETTER by doing this that and the other.

                              Don't eff with the elderly!! They need reassurance in SIMPLE terms...NOT "vouchers", etc. Just by saying "it's not gonna affect you" means bull chit to them. I've got elderly parents scared to death over here. To the elderly, "change" is a dirty word. It makes them feel that they should "stick with they got", the other way's gonna cause "change" for them.

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                              #13.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

                              to NPJ58......yes those 6 people living in that 2 bedroom apartment are certainly living the life of luxury! I sure wish i could give up my $70,000 a year job and live that life! They have it so much easier than I do! Although, admittedly, they are getting some benefits illegally, they obviously are barely getting by if they can only manage to afford a 2 bedroom apartment. No - I don't have all the answers.......and there will always be some who are too stupid to get out of that hole.....but I think the majority of people on unemployment or welfare don't really want to be in that situation. There is nothing wrong with requiring people to work to get off welfare......and that is exactly what our president's goal is. Romney's goal seems to be to take from the poor and give to the rich. It is the extremely rich who are lazy and don't work and just want more and more tax reductions, more benefits, and more severance pay from the companies they run into the ground.

                                #13.4 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

                                Elizabeth, your post is nothing less than specious and nugacious at best. You espouse President Obama's 'vacations' but fail to mention that Bush took a third of his time in office ON VACATIONS, mostly at his ranch in TX. You said 'More Americans on food stamps, more debt accumulated, less people working....' Where 'in heaven' do you think all that came from, thin air? The 3+ million job losses in just the last year of Bush being in office was just a figment of EVERYONE'S imagination? The 4% unemployment rate he enjoyed when he entered office, that ballooned to 7.9% when he left was nothing? Romney 'worked hard?' He risked NOTHING being the head of the venture side of Bain, being told by the head of Bain if the venture side didn't do well, his old job would be there WITH pay retroactive to when he left to start the new business. He risked NOTHING going to college, he risked NOTHING avoiding the draft to do 'mission' work in France touting how great it was for Americans to enter the draft and go to war; just not HIM. His OWN father put forward TWELVE years of tax returns vying for President, but he only gives one tax return that wasn't fully disclosed and says that's all YOU need to know, 'trust' him. Where are the jobs from the 'JOB CREATORS' we keep hearing from the GOP since they took over control of the House? Where are the #'s for all these programs that Romney keeps changing, dodging and deflecting and lying about? What IS Romney hiding, since he asked Ryan for several years of tax returns, just as McCain asked Romney for several years of his, and that was okay 'then?'

                                  #13.5 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:13 AM EDT

                                  fantomdog,when bush left office unemployment was 5.8% under king obama who threatens everybody to accept his policies we now have Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for Hispanics (10.3 percent) edged
                                  down in July, while the rates for adult men (7.7 percent), adult women (7.5 percent),
                                  teenagers (23.8 percent), whites (7.4 percent), and blacks (14.1 percent) showed little
                                  or no change. The jobless rate for Asians was 6.2 percent in July (not seasonally
                                  adjusted), little changed from a year earlier.A total of 8.3% of the population out of work.if you notice little changed from a year earlier.I personally have had only part time jobs in the last 2 1/2 years,no health insurance ,lost all three of my small businesses,lost 8 full time employees I had the whole time bush was in office,lost my house I built with my money on five acres,now live in a 1 bedroom apartment with my girlfreind and her 2 sons,I drive a 1982 toyota pickup.So please tell me again how obama is so great.Oh thats right he saved GM and sent jobs to china.

                                    #13.6 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
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                                    I have to wonder why a person would vote for a President that thinks its ok for the rich and middle class to pay the way for the poor... When i was in my twenties i worked and made a good living for my family and myself... I have to wonder why that is a bad thing now? I hope the best for all americans that is what this country was founded on... If your not better off now then you were four years ago then your going in the wrong direction... Inless your still on food stamp and welfare and if you are still getting this hand out it wouldn't be considered a helping hand but instead a hand out... I hope that you are better off then four years ago.. but if your not and want to do something about it then there is need for a change in something that isn't working...

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                                    Reply#14 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

                                    We have been down that path with George. Not again.

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                                    #14.1 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:38 PM EDT

                                    Larry, let's turn that around..Why vote for a President that thinks it's FABULOUS for the poor and middle class to pay for tax cuts for the RICH?

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                                    #14.2 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:44 AM EDT

                                    Larry doesn't care. All he sees are dollar signs and believe the lies he is being told. How very sad.

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                                    #14.3 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                                    diverdown1 do you really think i'am rich? Your statement is very shallow at best.. I work 60 to 70 hours a day 6 days a week and have four people working for me none of us are rich but to keep my doors open i have to make money... I see that making money is a evil thing to you...For you to say i don't care,I have three grand kids and i do care very much about them. I have to ask why all the hate for people that are working? AS far as turning it around 3 and half years and still nothing how much more time to turn it around mrlight rail? I don't listen to the news like most of you do i guess, but i do google what is going on and i have read most of the affordable care act and have to wonder why that is money for bio fuel attached to it? That is just on one page so how much more are we going to pay that is not above board? I voted for carter the first time and i also voted for President Obama for the hope and change i thought this man would make... but i have to wonder why there is no transparency and why the F/F isn't out in the open or why the President of the united states put ex prevlige on the case when he said he didn't know anything about it? If you arn't thinking about this maybe you should ask yourself how you would feel if you were brain terry's parents? Oh never mind i don't care right? or is it you don't care?

                                      #14.4 - Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:34 PM EDT
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                                      Clinton almost has to side with O'Bummer. The history of "The President's Club" proves this - great book BTW. I was really surprised when Clinton made the positive comment on Romney's business experience.

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                                      Reply#15 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                                      Romney is digging a hole he will never be able to get out of. He's already lost credibility for refusing to release his tax returns, and now this. For someone who wants to be POTUS so badly, he is sure blowing it for himself. All because he and his wife thinks it's "their turn". He ought to just get the blueprints of the WH, and build his own, and just fake it like he does eveything else.

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                                      Reply#16 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

                                      Hilariously true . Thanks for the laugh @ Cyphers .

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                                      #16.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 8:26 PM EDT

                                      Hey guy - I'll make you a deal. We will ask Romney to release his returns after Mr. Obama releases his personal records (college transcripts, senior thesis, information about his father etc.) Until then, I don't think we need to say any more about Romney hiding anything - what about your guy???

                                        #16.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:42 PM EDT
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                                        This is really not all that difficult, folks. 1. Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago. 2. Americans get the Government they deserve.

                                        Answer the question, and then vote.

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                                        Reply#17 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

                                        Romney is a kind of politician that always telling a lie, how can you trust him?

                                        He said he is going to create million jobs but he never mentioned where? Is it in China, Mexico, and India? How can he be a better President with questionable income tax return.

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                                        Reply#18 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 1:07 AM EDT

                                        Well, hell, Gerardo! How can you support a man like obama to be president when he wouldn't release virtually ANYTHING from his past? And you ask about jobs? Are you not concerned with the fact that there are 2,000,000 FEWER people working right now than there were four years ago? For all the crap you people on the left like to post about how rotten George Bush was, you conveniently FORGET the robust 4 and 5% unemployment we had for SEVEN of his eight years in office (even AFTER 9/11). The unemployment rate has been virtually DOUBLE that EVER SINCE obama took office!! And let's not forget that obama has a known tax cheat for secretary of the treasury AND an attorney general who is selective about what laws he will enforce and is currently under contempt of congress!

                                        I will give obama the credit he is due regarding his killing of osama bin laden AND his decision to kill those Somali pirates. But...other than that...I can think of NO REASON AT ALL to re-eect this man. He has performed about as well as could be expected, given he never had any experience which would qualify him to be President in the first place. I think it would be nice to have a President who understand (and likes) capitalism.

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                                        #18.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:31 AM EDT

                                        Robert, nice fairy tale. Bush entered office with a 4% rate, ended with a 7.9% rate, with the CBO predicting up to 10% by the end of 2009. The 3+ million job losses in just the last year Bush was in office, which continued into President Obama's first year, is President Obama's fault? Ask Wall Street how bad President Obama has been for companies as far as 'capitalism' is concerned, since most of the Fortune 500 companies have had RECORD profits, INCLUDING Oil Corporations.

                                          #18.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:21 AM EDT
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                                          larry Flint made his millions legally. Mitt made his millions legally. How larry made his money and what he invested in speaks to his character. If we are to know and understand Mitts character, dont we need to know how he made his million and what he invested in? If Mitt only invested in "money" as opposed to his country, is he any better than larry? Show the tax returns !.

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                                          Reply#19 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:45 AM EDT

                                          Very good cyphers. My sentiment exactly.

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                                          Reply#20 - Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:44 PM EDT

                                          If Mitt and Ryan get in any senior citizen with money and bad health had better get ready to spend it because your Medicare is gone.

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                                          Reply#21 - Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:20 AM EDT

                                          Recheck your facts, David. It is obama who is gutting Medicare...and it's to "pay" for that boondoggle inappropriately titled "affordable care act." You want to help seniors? Throw obama and the democrats on their asses and put in Romney/Ryan. We simply MUST repeal obamacare and put this country back on the path to prosperity. SOCIALIZED medicine is NOT the answer. And...by the way...I AM a senior.

                                            #21.1 - Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

                                            Yes Robert, let's get rid of a plan that helps ALL Americans (Obama), and put in a plan that gives you a voucher (Romney), that doesn't rise with economic indicators, or limits you as to what you CAN get? What are you going to do under Romney's plan if you need surgery or are put into a home with 24/7 care, and that 'voucher' that runs out; mortgage the house, sell your retirement income for a lesser percentage, get a loan you'll never be able to pay off, or not care if you ever do? Without 'Social' programs (i.e. Social Security, safe work enviroments, fair wages, public schools, hospitals and medical research, etc.), YOU and MANY people, wouldn't be here today. Of course you don't seem to mind backing a GOP team of 'numbers' guys (one who was a Venture Capitalist, the other who is a Budget Chairman) who can't remember, or don't know how much their plans will cost Americans, how much they paid in taxes, who blatantly lie even when there are facts to dispute their lies, deflect, distort, and then turn around and say 'trust me.' Btw, You also don't seem to mind that the VP pick who claims to be Roman Catholic, was a DEVOUT follower of an objectvism Atheist (Ann Rand) most of his life, till he was recently vetted for the VP spot, then he dropped her like a rock and disavowed her and her philosophies, but keep hanging President Obama on the rage of his pastor of 20 years who he dropped. The hypocracy is never-ending.

                                              #21.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:46 AM EDT

                                              David,

                                              Perhaps you need an education. It is Obama who is taking 716 billion from Medicare - which incidentally, will affect people who are on it now. Neither Mitt nor Paul are advocating any change for people over 55 and for those under they are offering a private plan FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE - they don't have to change anything.

                                              So ask yourself a simple question here - who is robbing Medicare?

                                                #21.3 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:46 PM EDT
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                                                Too late for this election year, but for 2016;

                                                Would somebody please come up with a candidate who will lead the fight to get rid of the lobbyists, make term limits mandatory and give Congress an actual job description with consequences for not getting things done in a timely manner. Washington is at its worst EVER!

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                                                Reply#22 - Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:19 PM EDT

                                                I totally agree....

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                                                #22.1 - Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

                                                Drive, I would also strip Congress' special healthcare and benefits package (including their staff members), and have them get regular health insurance like ALL Americans have to.

                                                  #22.2 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:49 AM EDT
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                                                  I love the line-up of speakers at the Republican Convention. They find a black woman (one of probably three in the Republican Party) a Hispanic (another one of three) and a few more ethnic types to disguise the fact that the Republican Party is a largely white wealthy male kind of enclave. I don't think that too many ethnic people are going to be fooled by this nonsense.

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                                                  Reply#23 - Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

                                                  underemployed, Sure many will be fooled, they elected Obama didn't they?

                                                    #23.1 - Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:17 PM EDT

                                                    @underemployed - Pam Bondi is Caucasian... They are only trying to seem ethnically balanced

                                                      #23.2 - Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:18 AM EDT

                                                      people are only as foolish as you believe they are.

                                                        #23.3 - Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:42 AM EDT
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                                                        RNC speakers: ...what, no John McCain? No Sarah Palin? No GEORGE W BUSH? No Michelle Bachmann? No Newt Gingrich, "Mr. Historian"? But, these are all leading lights of the Republican Party, touted by Republicans at various times to be the solution to all America's problems! They're all current thought leaders of conservatism and Republicanism and Tea Party-ism. Can't imagine why the Repubs aren't offering every one of these luminaries a chance to address the faithful.

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                                                        Reply#24 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:38 AM EDT

                                                        “Romney says Obama favors 'culture of dependency'.” Romney favors the same kind of culture, except that the dependency comes from his rich cronies who are chomping at the bit to cash in on his election. Of course, to the Republicans, it's called "sound monetary policy". The kind of welfare reform this country needs is kind that will cut off all handouts to the fatcats and their companies, starting with Bain.

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                                                        Reply#25 - Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:33 PM EDT
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