White House on Harry Reid: He speaks for himself

The White House has distanced itself from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's comments that GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney hasn't paid taxes in a decade. NBC's Kristen Welker reports.

The White House has distanced itself from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s comments that GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney hasn’t paid taxes in a decade.

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Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Harry knows of which he speaks...

SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS WILLARD, and we can clear this all up instantly...

Unless, you have something to HIDE!

  • 69 votes
#1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

Go Harry, go for the KO! I love the smell of Swiss-boating in the morning. Oh wait, except Romney really does have a Swiss bank account...and gees, how did he get all that tax-deferred money into that IRA, and what's that Mitt? You don't know if you ever paid less than a 13.9% tax rate? Really? And based on your record of never releasing tax returns, and lying about your taxes, we should just "trust you that?" Seriously?

  • 57 votes
#1.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:45 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMichael1969Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Effing right Feisty DumbFux!!

I agree 10000% with your statement. Romney, release your taxes! 5 years.....10 years.....whatever it takes to shut the libtards up. A politician is a politician no matter which side of the aisle. I am always leary of a pol that won't reveal everything for the highest office in the land!

Now that we agree....should I hold my breath for you next thread demanding Obummer release his ever-lost college records that will illustrate his socialist beliefes?? No?? I'm shocked, you hack...lol

Even you deserve better than Obummer! Consistency in life matters!

  • 64 votes
#1.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:57 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbigbenalaskaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The IRS has Mitts tax returns ....

If there was a problem with them the IRS would have contacted Mitt ....

Funny how no one knows what is on the 2 returns that Mitt turned in already .... "LOL"

Obama's election promises were never kept , period ....

Why are food stamp recipients still on the rise .... ??

And every day Obama's been in office our debt has climbed ....

Every single day , a new record high ....

Day after day ....

He can't even slow it down .... "LOL"

He had his shot ....

And failed ....

Like the loosing coach .....

Time to give Obama the boot ....

  • 84 votes
#1.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:11 PM EDT
Comment author avatarPat Boston MA.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hi Feisty, hope you and all your friends had a great funfilled weekend. I just bet you all did.

  • 14 votes
#1.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:19 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbigbenalaskaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hey ....

Anyone know what new record high Obama's massive debt will reach today .... ??

Anyone .... "LOL"

  • 50 votes
#1.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:25 PM EDT
Comment author avatarsfcretExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Come on Obama and Holder release those documents that Congress wants on 'Fast and Furious" and also on the WH Security Leaks. What is the President and Holder hiding? Come on Obama show us the documents, but maybe he doesn't want it known before the election that his Administration was solely responsible for the death of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent.

  • 71 votes
#1.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:30 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMichael1969Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

bigbenalaska

Hey ....

Anyone know what new record high Obama's massive debt will reach today .... ??

LOL....you silly rabbit.....you know debts don't mean anything to "Community Organizers" and people that piss their monthly checks away at casinos!...lol

.....After all, they know full-well that my great-grandchildren will be paying for their socialism today!

  • 62 votes
#1.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:31 PM EDT
Comment author avatarJ.D.StillExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Ol'"Clean Face",(name given him by his mafia bosses as documented on FBI tapes),Harry Reid, can clear it up immediately if what he says is true,He doesn't need Mr. Romney to show anything, all he has to do is simply bring forth this person that,"knows", Mr. Romney didn't pay his taxes , with HIS evidence,and show that,in fact, as an Officer of the United States ,if a crime has been committed, Reid has a DUTY to bring this person and his evidence forward!, if He doesn't ,He is obstructing justice, and is subject to prosecution himself. So what's it going to be Ol' "Clean" Face?The truth, the consequences, or a slink back into the slime from whence You came ?

  • 60 votes
#1.8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:36 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBrockton BarlowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

....solely responsible for the death of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent.

Don't forget Seal Team Six. How many members of that team died just weeks later in afghanistan because Obama wanted to do his end zone dance taking credit for their heroic work. How many other assists have we lost because of the avalanche of national security leaks just to make Hussien look like he's manly.

Simply disgraceful!

  • 44 votes
#1.9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:41 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBrockton BarlowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Harry Reid is our modern day Joseph McCarthy.

End of story!

  • 29 votes
#1.10 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:43 PM EDT

Have you all seen the front page of The Huffington Post?

  • 11 votes
#1.11 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:48 PM EDT
Comment author avatarelliot-3020456Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I just heard from a credible source (some redhead) that Reid has a child rape dungeon in his basement. This unnamed redhead also told me about a recent trip to Nevada where this person arranged a trip to meet a 10 year old kid. I also heard that the redhead and Reid are charter members of NAMBLA.

Now it's up to Reid and the redhead to show proof that he isn't into raping little kids, but until he shows proof I guess the country should just look at him as a child rapist.

  • 63 votes
#1.12 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:06 PM EDT

and I can vouch for Elliot, it's true! He heard it!

  • 36 votes
#1.13 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:13 PM EDT
Comment author avatarGT-2021701Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

C'mon Mitten's, there's nothing too personal or too private when you're running for the POTUS. You might as well show them now, and get it over with. This way, the Re-Pubes still have time to find someone else to plug into your spot......New flavor of the month, anyone?

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 34 votes
#1.14 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:41 PM EDT
Comment author avatarnewdayDAWNING...RETURNEDExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Elliot lad, you got your butt kicked on the last thread for this very thing. I remember telling you to post an essay on logic..

Get to it.

  • 22 votes
#1.15 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:47 PM EDT

Elliot, I've read about this on three or four different blogs now... Was it really Feisty that let the cat out of the bag about Ried???

  • 20 votes
#1.16 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:57 PM EDT

So elliot, say Reid had a piece of paper proving you are lying and yet won't let anyone see it. Reid just says trust me.

Then the party faithfuls fight for Reid not to release the papers that would prove his innocence. Telling us that trust me should be enough.

That is the standard you want to set for Romney, think it is good enough standard for everyone?

  • 26 votes
#1.17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:19 PM EDT

GT-2021701

Nothing too personal or private when You are running for President eh? You know what? I agree! So Mr. Obama or Barry Soetero, release Your student records! Mr. Romney did,Why not You? What could You possibly have to hide Barry/Barack? and Why did YOU on the Bio You wrote for Your Publisher, say You were born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii? Confused a lot of people there Mr P., So, What's the real deal? Why did 400 of your fellow classmates at Columbia who attended the same time You did, say they never saw or heard of You? Strange, no? and Mr. P, Why did You have to surrender Your Law License? I thought that was usually done instead of facing some kind of felony charges, but, I'm sure You Have a Good explanation. Now, Mr.P, one last question, Why did You Join and were a card carrying, dues paying member of the the Marxist /Communist New Party in the Mid 90's when You were running for office in Chicago?Wow! this nothing too personal or private stuff is great!and I am so glad all You Dems agree!

  • 47 votes
#1.18 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:37 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRedDevPSExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

LOL....you silly rabbit.....you know debts don't mean anything

That statement is owned, lock, stock and barrel by your main high priest, the almighty Cheney. He invented the quote, he owns the quote, he lives by the quote, and no matter how much you try to wipe that slime off your sleeve, he owns you with that quote. You little bitchy conservatives that love to shift blame like you shift a tranny are amazing. You folks own up to nothing except to squat, leave a pile, and toss it in your neighbors yard.

  • 22 votes
#1.19 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

Hey Elliot - how many times you going to post that trash. Your masochistic side is starting to show. Apparently, you weren't beat up enough the first time around, so you are back for more. To bad you don't have your best FF buddy to back you up this time around. Careful as you flirt around Oz .. the Wizard may not be all you think he is cracked up to be. You might end up a M69 bee-atch assuming a position you may overly enjoy against your will.

  • 18 votes
#1.20 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:09 AM EDT

I think the realization that Romney really is the republican candidate, and that it is very likely that he will lose the election has republicans very upset as indicated by some of the "over the top" posts in the last few days.

  • 28 votes
#1.21 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:15 AM EDT

J.D.Still -

It's a deal. If you can get Mitt to release his tax returns, I'll see if I can get O to release his transcripts.

As far as his Marxist commie card, I can't help you there. I'm afraid that's just a figment of some RWNJ bloggers imagination.

As far as O's law license, its a matter of public record (Illinois), and there's nothing in the record that shows any kind of legal problems.

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 19 votes
#1.22 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:26 AM EDT

The IRS may be incompetent on many levels, but I am sure that if Mitt Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years, we would have heard about it way before now. Second, the standard for commiting a crime in the US lies with the accuser to provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Hardly the example you would expect from a senior senator who has sworn many times to uphold the US Constitution.

Mitt Romney's taxes are just as relevant as Obama's college thesis.

  • 34 votes
#1.23 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:41 AM EDT

I think the realization that Romney really is the republican candidate, and that it is very likely that he will lose the election has republicans very upset as indicated by some of the "over the top" posts in the last few days.

Forrest - you are right on with that comment. The nice way of putting it is they are biting their nails in nervous anticipation. On a more inner-sinner note, something tells me the men's room stalls are very busy these days, and condom sales are through the roof. Regardless, RomneyShambles was something the GOP/TP party wasn't quite ready for, should have been smooth sailing, but was such a classic screw up, they are left wondering how many times the quarter back can fumble the ball before they call it quits.

Just look at the post from Dave - college transcripts from 20 years ago as a young adult are somehow comparable to the last 5-10 years of Romney's tax returns. Downright pathetic.

  • 18 votes
#1.24 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:43 AM EDT

The IRS may be incompetent on many levels, but I am sure that if Mitt Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years, we would have heard about it way before now.

If it is legal, we would not have heard about it. This isn't an IRS question. The bigger question is if he didn't pay taxes for 10 years, why does his $57K per day salary exempt him from tax obligations. People earning $57k per year have tax obligations. Sorry dude, but you sound like you support the more you make, the less you should pay in taxes.

  • 12 votes
#1.25 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:56 AM EDT

Second, the standard for commiting a crime in the US lies with the accuser to provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

Good point, Dave. But beware of what you wish for. If Reid does have a legitimate source, I don't think the GOP could close that can of worms in time to save Willard's ass. If the Repube's are smart, they should just back off of Reid and let the subject just go away.

Or better yet, Mitten's could save everybody a lot of trouble and just release them.......

  • 11 votes
#1.26 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:57 AM EDT

I do not get the clamoring to see Obama's college thesis. We're talking about 25-30 years ago. We know that he graduated with honors from Harvard and that he served as president of the Harvard Law Review. Harvard doesn't dispute that--I'm sure one can see his diploma. People want to know about the tax returns because those relate to much more recent activity, and they show how a person conducts his/her life. It shows quite a lot about a person's choices in life--how they spent their money (eg., charities) and whether they paid what was due or found shady ways to pay of avoiding taxes. The fact that Romney is being so secretive about his returns reflects negatively on his moral character.

  • 19 votes
#1.27 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 5:09 AM EDT

Release your tax returns Harry Reid... what do you have to hind... I want to find out how you can make 194,000 dollars a year and have a net worth over 10 million!!

Harry Reid is a typical politician... if he speaks then he's lying!!

Frankly, I don't give a rat's rear end about Harry Reid's or Mitt Romney's tax returns or Obama's college transcripts or his golf game...

Let's talk about REAL issues like jobs, budget, middle east, debt... you know REAL issues or is that the problem... It must be because everyone knows Obama can't run on is record... it's a disaster!

  • 31 votes
#1.28 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 5:44 AM EDT
Comment author avatarBrockton BarlowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The left wing loons are paralyzed and powerless they have nothing to run on except Obama's failed record. The media can no longer slant the poll results to pump up Obama. Just ask as many people as you see what they think of Obama. Real, ordinary people can't stand this arrogant fool any longer.

The leftie loons know its true so they will do anything to tear down a successful and honorable man like Romney including trotting out Harry Reid in Joe McCartthy like fashion.

The best part of this silly tax debate was Reince Priebus, chairman of the republican committee, was able to say on national TV that Harry Reid is a DIRTY LIAR!

Has anyone noticed the strange silence from the left in relation to Priebus's comment. Normally, the moonbats would be out en mass demanding an apology or his resignation. But they can't. Why you ask?

Because the fact is right, left or whatever you are ( unless a complete fool ) we all know that....

HARRY REID, SENATE MAJORITY LEADER IS A DIRTY LIAR!

  • 36 votes
#1.29 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:14 AM EDT

All that's really left is the convention and the debates in which Romney will easily proved that Barack Hussein Obama is even a bigger DIRTY LIAR.

  • 28 votes
#1.30 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:16 AM EDT
Comment author avatarJob1Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Oh boy, so many republicans that live in la la land.

  • 21 votes
#1.31 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:34 AM EDT

GT

So , You guys DEMAND that Mr. Romney release his financial records back to the age of three,(including the "hidden" change in his piggy bank), nothing else will do, but we are supposed to except from Big O's surrogates at face value their explanations that" there's nothing there, cross my heart and hope to die, so,let's just move on", SORRY, not working any more, just for fun , maybe some enterprising journalist will ask a question about some of these:

The address of this first article for some strange reason no longer seems to work while on this site but if you go to another it works fine, http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/78945/, or You can google , Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party by Aaron Klein, the news paper in question is the, Socialst Democrats of America's,(You know, those Marxist/Communist RWNJ's own newspaper) and shows pictures of Obama with the group and list him in the accompanying article as being a member of the Marxist/ socialist New Party.

and in reference to his law license, the following with photo copies and explanations is interesting, Google, Barack Obama Illinois Bar Application,Obama lied? ,or, citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/barack-illinois-bar ,now, I am sure, just as You want the actual Documents from Mr. Romney, You will also demand Mr.Obama release the actual documents, along with those student records to explain himself, but You will excuse me if I do not hold my breath while waiting.

  • 16 votes
#1.32 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

student records to explain himself, but You will excuse me if I do not hold my breath while waiting.

Perhaps when a white man who served as President of the United States releases his student records, perhaps the first black President in history will release his.

If Willard Romney was clean, he would release his taxes and get a 10 point bump in the polls. With such logic, Willard is really dumb or dirty. Which is it?

  • 14 votes
#1.33 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:03 AM EDT

Job1

I don't care if the man is purple with pink polkadots, serious questions are being asked, Did Obama, using the name Barry Soetero at the time, fraudulently register as a foreign student in order to get student aid to which he was not entitled, and is that the reason Mr. Obama ,on the Bio he wrote for his publisher, say he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii, in order to cover for that felony?and does that fraudulent application have anything to do with his law license being surrendered? All the man,(no matter the color), has to do is release his records,if there is no ,"there", there, and I am sure Our diligent MSM will be asking for them everyday , just like They are with Mr. Romney, even though he has already released everything that is required of him and there is not even a hint of any, "there",being there.

  • 13 votes
#1.35 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

bethie -- then why not release his records. he clearly has something to hide. same argument works both ways. you do remember the faux bullying thing that came out about romney when he was in high school?

do not be so blind as to refuse to see that obama is just simply another chicago thug politician.

  • 12 votes
#1.36 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

Tell us about your land deals Harry? Or maybe your family involvement in lobbying?

You're a HACK

When someone lies to Congress it's a crime.... what should it be when Congress LIES to the US people?

  • 17 votes
#1.37 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT
Comment author avatarAvg Joe-1820350Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I have a feeling this election is not going to be a FOR Romney as much as it is going to be for a AGAINST Obama. NObama 2012

  • 14 votes
#1.38 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:33 AM EDT
Comment author avatarRepublicansForObama-6186389Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

God Bless Harry Reid for Exposing Mitt Romney for who Mitt Romney really is!

We now know beyond a Shadow of Doubt, that Mitt Romney is a TAX CHEAT and AVOIDS PAYING TAXES. Not very manly, now is it?

We also know that Mitt Romney has HIDDEN SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS where he HIDES his ill-gotten Loot, and all his off-shore CAYMAN ISLAND "Slush Funds" where he "laundries" that ill-gotten Loot. Not very manly either.

And taking your Wife's, Multi-Million dollar OLYMPIC SHOW HORSE off as a TAX WRITE-OFF just because you, Mitt Romney, call it a "THERAPY HORSE? wtf? That absolutely is a very Unmanly thing to do.

And thinking you can "RETIRE RETROACTIVELY" from BAIN CAPITAL, even when you're still Getting MILLIONS of Dollars as CEO, just so you can AVOID "FELONY CHARGES"? Well that's just being a COWARD.

Does anybody else see a Major "CHARACTER PROBLEM" here, with Mitt Romney?

Mitt Romney's hideous character Flaws and his horrific Character defects, make Mitt Romney UNFIT to be President of the United States, ever!

That why Everybody, and I mean everybody, needs to Vote a straight Democratic ticket come this November 2012, and send Mitt Romney and the Republicans back to the "Dung Heap of History".

  • 15 votes
#1.39 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:46 AM EDT
Comment author avatarHal-2824511Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I don't think there was any need for Reid to do this. Romney's not releasing his returns says all that needs to be said.

  • 6 votes
#1.40 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:47 AM EDT

Harry Reid is nothing but a pathetic old man.

Tell me libbies, how does a man who makes an average of $150K turn it into a muti-million dollar net worth? Only in liberalville would that be acceptable.

I'd like to see Harry's records for as long as he has been in office.

  • 19 votes
#1.41 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

I don't blame him for not showing transcripts now, because he most likely took a course or two that the half-wits would claim is anti-American.

Hopefully, the President will release his college records after the election.

Spin it all you want, Willard is dirty. If Willard Romney was clean, he would release his taxes and get a 10 point bump in the polls. With such logic, Willard is really dumb or dirty.

  • 6 votes
#1.42 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:56 AM EDT

Whether he releases the returns or not (instinct, he won't), it doesn't change the fact that Romney has said nothing of substance since he started this endeavor. What exactly are his plans to rescue the economy? As a successful businessman (of sorts), this should be his bread and butter. Though a cogent plan is as elusive as those returns.

I'm no huge fan of Obama, but really? Romney? The guy the GOP faithful tried so desperately to avoid that they flirted with every ill conceived possibility during a canibalistic feeding frenzy of selection (Remember Perry, Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum anyone?).

The Republican Party settled. "Yeah, you'll do. You have some experience, and this thing will be about the economy, so you should be able to slap the incumbent around like a wet haddock on the issues. Wait....what do you mean you worked for Bain..... that's ok...... no, it's ok you seem to offend everyone you meet outside the US....... oh...... only a couple of years of returns..... 1 of which is incomplete...... err...."

He's the candidate you never wanted. Hence Democrats putting Obama/Biden 2012, and most GOP/Tea Party posters stated 'Nobama', or 'anyone other than obama' (or insulting variations therein). All of this is a distraction from the truth, you got left with Romney.

  • 15 votes
#1.43 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:57 AM EDT

RepublicansForObama

Well You better trot Your ,"evidence", right over to the IRS! but I do wonder, with them in possesion of all Mr. Romney's tax records, how in the world did They miss such highly reliable information? Amazing!

  • 10 votes
#1.44 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

Annie Romney said only the little people pay Taxes, we have the IRS in our Pocket !!!!

  • 8 votes
#1.45 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:11 AM EDT

Sounds like Harry stepped on obama's manhood. And all obama can say besides ouch was - he is on his own.

Gotta love it though - a one-sentence headline grabbing article by NBCSnooze.

  • 11 votes
#1.46 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:26 AM EDT

Elliott- You're starting to genuinely frighten me with your continuous and intense interest in child rape dungeons. What gives with this perverse and morose interest?

  • 4 votes
#1.47 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

@Patriotic #1.45 .....It's kind of sad when you simply LIE ...... it was Leona Helmsley that said that line many years ago. She's dead now, but maybe you can attack her if it makes you feel good.

Wow ! The White House backs away from the "turd" that Harry Reid dropped in the Senate chamber. They know he cannot prove his outrageous lie.

SO MSDNC gives this story ONE @!$%#_ING SENTENCE ????? If a Republican had done something like this, the story would be at least 2 pages with quotes from every Democratic leader !!! LOL !!!!

MSDNC is "in the tank" for Obama. MCNBC shills for Obama like their very existence depends upon it. Considering their shabby ratings ...... maybe it does !

  • 18 votes
#1.48 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:35 AM EDT

According to Obama "you didn't build that", He could not be more right about himself. Compare the two Romney went out and built Americian buisness, and Obama and his Mom lived off of hard working people like Romney.

  • 10 votes
#1.49 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:44 AM EDT

I think Obama should take ol' Harry on vacation with him; I hear that Damascus is beautiful this time of year.....especially if you see it in an open convertible....and Holder can ride in the back seat (where he belongs) with the golf clubs....best caddy ever. I'll bet those 2 kids in the White House aren't even his, and that Obama and Holder are better friends than anybody knows.....

  • 6 votes
#1.50 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:45 AM EDT

The White House is ABSOLUTELY behind this pack of lies spewing from Reid's pie hole. Only true koolaide drinkers like Fiesty, with her head so far up Obama's ass her brain is oxygen starved, believe these lies or that Obama is not involved.

  • 13 votes
#1.51 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:50 AM EDT

I'm amazed by the density of the liberals here who fail to make the connection that the white House is in effect, hanging Harry out to dry for lying about Mitt Romney, failing to pay taxes. Yet they (the liberal slugs on these boards) will go on cheer leading for the 3rd most despicable politician in America (Obama #1, Nancy Pelousy#2). If I were Romney, I'd make this a big issue and force Harry to issue an apology. This will discredit the entire democratic organization.

Moving on, Obama is dangerously low on ammunition. Like the fake War on Women issue, Mitt is mean to dogs, the Bain Capital non-issue which is now relegated to the back pages of the liberal news rags, and now the phony Mitt won't release his taxes/didn't pay his taxes issue, leads me to wonder what they'll be able to use down the home stretch. Maybe they can find a street bum who witness Mitt j-walking in 1965, or a meter maid who slapped a parking ticket on his car in 79. Hard hitting stuff to be sure.

  • 8 votes
#1.52 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:57 AM EDT

@J.D. Still

Well You better trot Your ,"evidence", right over to the IRS! but I do wonder, with them in possesion of all Mr. Romney's tax records, how in the world did They miss such highly reliable information? Amazing!

Reid didn't say Romney did anything criminal. I realize this is difficult for the average Republican voter* to understand, but it IS possible to pay little or no taxes at all without doing anything illegal -- such as be dirt poor or, alternately, be filthy rich and exploit every loophole and exemption you can. It's obvious Reid is implying the latter about Romney, and for obvious reasons -- if Romney's tax returns show him paying nothing or only a minimal percentage (which seems highly likely), it will simply prove what many already suspect: the wealthy have advantageous options most of us don't when it comes to reducing tax burdens, they aren't shy about using them and don't particularly care about how "unpatriotic" or "unfair" it may be, and Romney is no exception. To fire back by saying "If there were anything wrong, the IRS woulda jumped on it," demonstrates either a shocking degree of ignorance on your part or an appalling proclivity for being deliberately obtuse if it suits your narrative, so which is it this time, J.D.?

* If the average Republican voter were smart enough to wrap their head around how badly their party is trying to screw them, they wouldn't vote Republican.

  • 6 votes
#1.53 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:19 AM EDT

Romey should throw the Guntlet down in front of Obama and Reid. He will release his tax returns if

1: Reid comes out with full disclosure of the shady land deal he made a few years back in Nevada.

2: Obama must open in full disclosure all College transcripts. And all funding he got and who funded his college education.

I bet both would refuse to do so.

  • 11 votes
#1.54 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:29 AM EDT

Reading the libs here it's clear they are rooting for Rome to burn, so to speak. But, instead of Rome, they are enjoying the destruction of the US. Although, from reading their comments, it is just possible that they aren't smart enough to figure it out. It's like they are falling from an airplane at 35,000 feet and all they can think of is to enjoy the view.

  • 6 votes
#1.55 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

Tony to suit

Just following You boys lead,if what Mr. Romney has done is legal , there is no need for You to pursue such a nothing story, (speaking of being obtuse and following a narrative to suit ones agenda,try deflecting and preventing the American People from focusing on the disastrous economy, a record defict that grows deeper everyday, and twenty plus million Americans un or under employed),but You know what is even more appalling Tony, here I have listed with the sources, information that "Dirty" Harry is in the Pocket of the Mafia, and You have a President that was a registered Member of a Marxist /Socialist Party, who has possibly committed a felony, and NOT ONE OF YOU seems to care or even bothers trying to defend Them, which says a great deal more about the modern Democrat/Progressive/Socialist/Marxist/Communist Party, than You Would ever say about Yourselves, but the rest of the American People ,"hear", it loud and clear.

  • 6 votes
#1.56 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:48 AM EDT

I put Harry Reid's comments in the same category as the Obama birthers. This crap plays well with the party fringe, but it hurts with independent voters.

Until Obama comes out and publicly chastises Reid for his comments, it will continue to be a negative strike against Obama in my book.

  • 6 votes
#1.57 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:49 AM EDT

Oh, let me correct that analogy, it's more like their spouse pushed them out of an airplane at 35,000 feet and their childhood friend that they had a spat with 50 years ago skydives and comes beside them with an extra parachute in hand and they refuse it because it was offered by their "enemy." They still think their spouse will come to their rescue, even as they are within 1,000 feet of the ground.

  • 2 votes
#1.58 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:55 AM EDT

Once again, the libs on this site totally avoid the issue, by demanding that Romney release tax returns. The issue here is that the Whitehouse, very wisely so, is distancing themselves from the senile Harry "Mr Magoo" Reid, who had a little birdie tell him that Romney has paid no taxes for 10 years. Smart move by the WH. Harry is a universal laughing stock; even the most liberal newspapers are carrying cartoons lampooning his ridiculous attempt to divert attention from the economy.

  • 8 votes
#1.59 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:04 PM EDT

Reid didn't say Romney did anything criminal. I realize this is difficult for the average Republican voter* to understand, but it IS possible to pay little or no taxes at all without doing anything illegal -- such as be dirt poor or, alternately, be filthy rich and exploit every loophole and exemption you can. It's obvious Reid is implying the latter about Romney, and for obvious reasons -- if Romney's tax returns show him paying nothing or only a minimal percentage (which seems highly likely), it will simply prove what many already suspect: the wealthy have advantageous options most of us don't when it comes to reducing tax burdens, they aren't shy about using them and don't particularly care about how "unpatriotic" or "unfair" it may be, and Romney is no exception. To fire back by saying "If there were anything wrong, the IRS woulda jumped on it," demonstrates either a shocking degree of ignorance on your part or an appalling proclivity for being deliberately obtuse if it suits your narrative, so which is it this time, J.D.?

It's nearly impossible to pay nothing in taxes over a ten year stretch. There are legit ways to reduce your tax burden though. You can give massive amounts to charity but that would mean that you are not greedy but incredibly generous. You could also invest heavily in tax free municipal bonds but that would also be a good thing since you are helping communities to pay for infrastructure by buying their bonds. You could also lose a lot on an investment and incur capital loses but not very much. In short, you cannot get away with paying no taxes over a ten year period. I suspect Romney paid his fair share but since he is not actually employed but living off his investments he is paying around 15% in taxes.

I also get why you liberals are hammering this issue. It's all you have! Without it you have to defend your guy who is completely indefensible.

  • 5 votes
#1.60 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:13 PM EDT

I still waiting for Obama's college transcripts. Why did he have them sealed?

BTW: This is the first one sentence Article I have seen published by First Read. There is nothing more to say? And, "The White House has distanced itself from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s comments..." How politically correct!

How about: "The White House has strongly implied that it believes Harry Reid to be a damn liar with no facts to back up his preposterous statements?"

I believe that is better jouralism.

  • 7 votes
#1.61 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

Mr. Magoo (Harry Reid) revealed his source. It's Keith Olbermann !! But after all, when was Keith or Harry ever right about anything. If Romney did something wrong it is Reid's sworn duty to turn what he has over to the IRS and Justice Department for an audit and prosecution. What is this we hear. The IRS already has Romney's returns and there was no audit. Now do you really think if Reid was anywhere close to correct Romney wouldn't be in a tax court by now. So if Romney didn't do anything wrong or criminal, what is all the flack about? I thought under federal privacy laws, tax return were private. So why not look into all the stimulus money which has disappeared and according to Senator Schumer they can't find. The President wants another stimulus plan. Why not find out what happened to $780 billion from the first stimulus. Initial reports say from of the Obama campaign donors did very well from it. Look at Solyndra, went bankrupt but most of Obama's buddies got their money back.

  • 5 votes
#1.62 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

I know folks on this site love to continually blame all the solar system's ills on the Republican majority in the House of Representatives...but take a good look at the photo of Harry Reid. He's the guy who has just about tossed every single piece of legislation passed by the House into the crapper without even the benefit of a reading. No discussion. No debate. No nothing.

And then we get to hear President Obama contiuously bleating about a "do nothing Congress".

Mr. Reid is example number one of why nothing gets done in Congress. He looks at every House passed bill on his desk and goes in front of a news camera and labels the approved bill as "Tea Party" legislation and ends discussion right there.

This little mouse of a US Senator has done nothing more than muzzle debate on issues taxpayers need to hear about.

Take a good look at the mouse and ask yourselves if this should be the one guy in America who makes the choices for the rest of us ???

  • 10 votes
#1.63 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:42 PM EDT

If I were Romney I'd tell ya all to go pound sand. The only reason the Dems want to see his tax returns is because they don't have anything else. He doesn't have any "sealed" divorce or child custody records to go through like Axelrod did to Obama's challengers in the IL Senate primary or general election. I'd tell ya all to F off it's about the effing economy stupids!

  • 5 votes
#1.64 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:53 PM EDT

Swiss boated. How ironic.

  • 2 votes
#1.65 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:17 PM EDT

Harry Reid is nothing more than a shameful hack. Honestly, do anyone think Romney paid no taxes? If he did it was because of existing tax laws that if I recall Obama promised to fix. McCain only releases 2 years so what is the issue this time.....other than Obama needs something to change the conversation from the economy.

But lets play this out. So if Romney were to release every tax return he ever filed would that make you libs happy? Of course not. You would twist and turn every number in them to create another story about Romney instead of talking about your candidate and his failures as President to fix this economy...or for that matter, not making it worse.

Harry Reid is making you Dems look as silly as the Birthers and could end of backfiring. If I were Romney I would tell you to it 2 years and nothing more....unless Obama wants to release all his "private" documents.

  • 6 votes
#1.66 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:34 PM EDT

J.D., if it were truly a "nothing story" then Gov. Romney would've ponied up his returns ages ago and nobody would care at this point. Heck, I'm inclined to believe it's a "nothing story" myself if it weren't for the fact that Gov. Romney repeatedly and consistently ducks most any inquiry thrown his way. I wasn't a big fan of President George W. Bush, but at least the guy answered questions (even if he all he had were poor answers and maybe another cringe-worthy malaprop to contribute to the national dialect).

You actually didn't list any sources backing up your assertion regarding "Dirty" Harry in this thread, you only made a slanderous accusation. I'm not defending Reid, I'm just pointing out the truth here. You also "vouched" for another's reprehensible "joke" that Reid runs a NAMBLA rape dungeon, so do forgive me for thinking your credibility is hardly sterling.

It's apparent by the way you sling the terms "socialist," "communist" and "Marxist" around that you, like most deluded "conservatives" on these threads, do not understand even the most basic definitions of those terms -- you've obviously learned through some form of conditioning or other (parenting, Limbaugh, FOX News, etc.) to fear and hate them without knowing exactly why beyond whatever you've been fed. The fact that the President may once have belonged to a group that could be labeled as such warrants careful consideration when investigating his character, but it is not an automatic black mark against him as you treat it -- that's called "prejudice," son, and it's ignorant and wrong pretty much 100% of the time. Read on if you care to educate yourself a little, though I expect you won't since you appear to be too proud and confident in your own myopia.

President Obama does not conduct himself as a communist -- again, if you understood what the word meant, you'd know that -- if he did, then the so-called "government takeovers" that occurred during the worst days of the recession to prop up the economy would have been MUCH more invasive, complete, and permanent. The fact that it didn't happen and the current administration didn't push for any more government involvement than was necessary makes applying the "communist" label here utterly false.

Marxism is a philosophy -- i.e., it's a structured opinion; just one possible lens through which to view and conceptualize the world around you -- and, like any philosophy, there's nothing wrong with it unless it's taken to an extreme or twisted and used to justify ugliness and atrocity as the Soviets did (and still do). More to the point, Marxist theory espouses the idea that socialism will inevitably and completely replace capitalism -- an interesting concept, but also an unrealistic one. Regardless, the President isn't a Marxist since, during his time in office, he has never conducted himself as such. Knowledge/awareness of a philosophy doesn't mean you espouse it, but thanks for trying to pigeonhole people to suit your narrative.

President Obama and Democrats in general absolutely do display socialist tendencies. That's actually a good thing, and here's why: Socialism is a necessary counterbalance to Capitalism, not its antithesis (which is the real flaw in Marxism -- reality is in the middle and the pendulum swings back and forth a bit but it never gets stuck one way or the other forever). Socialism holds the view that unfettered Capitalism (the wet dream of the rich righties) concentrates power and wealth within a small segment of society (the 1%ers, and we know it does because look at the numbers regarding what percentage of people owns what percentage of wealth in this country), and that Capitalism does this through a system of exploitation (which is also true, as we are all becoming more and more aware of the breaks, loopholes, subsidies, kickbacks, bonuses, golden parachutes, etc., the wealthy enjoy that we common folk will never see) -- and before you open your mouth and regurgitate another canned right-wing answer, we common folk have a problem with it not because we're "lazy" or that we "envy success" or any baloney like that, but simply because the playing field ain't level; we can't game the system to turn our 401Ks into multi-million dollar personal slush funds, exploit tax loopholes to avoid paying our fair share, and hide our money in offshore accounts, nor should we be able to... our point is that nobody should be able to. Continuing on, Socialism holds that unfettered Capitalism creates class imbalance (it does; again, look at those percentages I mentioned) and denies equal opportunities for every individual to maximize their potential (check that off, too as I just noted in the previous sentence), nor does it utilize resources and technology to their maximum potential in the public interest (remind me again who is it that's against stem cell research? Oh, that's right... the ignorant, who just happen to be mostly righties, surprise, surprise... and that's just one example).

I know people who were Libertarians, Greenies, Perot Independents, Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, and more in their youth and you know what? They're all American, they all love this country, they all want the best for it, they've almost all changed parties at some point or other, and -- and this is the important part -- the ugly extremists in their group did not define who they were or are. As you are an obviously prejudiced example of just such an extremist, I don't expect you to appreciate that, but maybe, just maybe, you'll think about that and understand what that means someday, and you and yours will be better off for it.

Next!

Until Obama comes out and publicly chastises Reid for his comments, it will continue to be a negative strike against Obama in my book.

That's just silly, Ron-1861300. President Obama isn't responsible for Harry's antics any more than Mr. Romney is for Bachmann's.

  • 6 votes
#1.67 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:53 PM EDT

For all you liberals asking (in fact demanding) Romney's tax returns I can give you a very quick answer: NO!! To make a claim and then asking for proof the claim is not true just isn't the way we work in the United States. If you don't like it - then move. Plenty of other countries where the government (or people) can just "demand" stuff.

Here is the deal - we have the IRS that pursues tax cheats and tax evasion. If the IRS believes there is any truth to the claim they can pursue it. Doesn't matter about Obama's birth certificate, Obama's transcripts, or Romney's tax returns. The PEOPLE are not able to demand those things. Only the legal system can be used for these things. With birth certificate there was a legal requirement to have it so a lawsuit was filed and was determined that Obama's birth certificate was original. Case closed. With Obama transcripts there is no legal obligation to show so Obama doesn't have to. I would LIKE to see them but he has made the decision to NOT show so case is closed. React as you wish but doesn't matter.

With Romney's tax returns there is no legal obligation to show to the people and Romney shouldn't. Who really cares? I don't. If there is something illegal then the IRS pursues so if the IRS is NOT pursuing all must be fine. So why would some STILL want to see it? Not to see if he paid his taxes because he has and the IRS not pursuing proves that.

So why the interest then? Because liberals know Obama can't run on his record so they must try to find something ANYTHING that can distract from the failed Obama policies. So what advantage does Romney have to show his tax returns? None............. So he won't (and shouldn't) show them. Like liberals MIGHT vote for Romney if they could ONLY see his tax returns...........NOT!!

So, in summary, I don't give a tiny rat's behind if you want to see his tax returns. You liberals aren't voting for him anyway. Us conservatives are. And the undecided's see this for what it is - a useless ploy to hide the failures of Obama and his administration so THEY don't care about Romney's tax returns either.

So you are welcome to yell and scream and hold your breath until you turn blue but won't do any good. You won't see the tax returns so it would be better if you start trying to find a way to twist the facts on the Obama failures because that is your only hope in November.

  • 7 votes
#1.68 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:55 PM EDT

Americans First

You sure you want to keep that "Occupy" avatar? Wasn't it the Oakland occupy movement that trashed the hell out of your buddy Obama's election office?

  • 2 votes
#1.69 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:00 PM EDT

Hide?

Tell ya what...

Mebbe I'd join the call for Romney to release hit tax returns to the liberal media wolves, when OBAMA stops HIDING behind "executive privilege" for the Fast and Furious emails...

I'm all for a "data dump" as Forbes calls it- Obama, release F&F information, your academic records and transcripts?

WHO's got something to hide?

Dumb-azz liberals...

  • 4 votes
#1.70 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:16 PM EDT

I also get why you liberals are hammering this issue. It's all you have! Without it you have to defend your guy who is completely indefensible.

And Q22 is back with another heap of meaningless suppositions and "what ifs" that mean precisely squat. In case you're wondering, Q, I'm picking on you because you post a lot in these threads and most of it is pointless hot air. Sorry, I'm really not trying to be rude here, but until you actually say anything of substance, that's going to be my opinion. Yes, Captain Obvious, there are a lot of possibilities that could explain a lower-than-average tax burden -- the question is WHAT are those? Depending on the answer, it could completely exonerate Gov. Romney of the less-than-kind rumors swirling, or it could prove exactly what a lot of people are worried about when they consider whether to vote for him or not. Bottom line: the fact that he's choosing to hide the stuff looks bad. Want me to vote you in as President of the United States of America? Then make with the details because I'm not electing a stranger. Don't want your life pried into? Then don't run. I might think less of the issue if were ONLY the Left hammering on it, but the fact is folks from all sides are or have, independents and righties alike. It's not the only issue with Gov. Romney, it's just the one that's getting the most traction.

The IRS already has Romney's returns and there was no audit. Now do you really think if Reid was anywhere close to correct Romney wouldn't be in a tax court by now. So if Romney didn't do anything wrong or criminal, what is all the flack about?

I answered this one above. Which is it, Ray W.? Are you ignorant or deliberately obtuse?

So if Romney were to release every tax return he ever filed would that make you libs happy?

I'd settle for the last 7 years and yes, I'd be quite gratified that this man who wants our votes had the backbone to share insight into his ethics and stand by it. And if everything were as clean as he purports, I'd have a lot fewer misgivings about potentially voting for him. I lean Obama, but I'm also wise enough to not make up my mind completely before all the facts are in. I'm still waiting for Gov. Romney to present himself as a truly viable alternative rather than just closing the door in his face, and his evasiveness isn't helping him so far.

  • 2 votes
#1.71 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:33 PM EDT

If Romney didn't pay taxes, I doubt it would be a crime. He would have used tons of loopholes to do it.

If she did not pay taxes, however, that would make him part of the 50% who don't pay taxes...and thus, a complete hypocrite.

By the way, all that blabbering about Obama listing himself as a foreign student and classmates at Columbia not knowing him has all been de-bunked lies. Please stop spreading the nonsense, it doesn't help.

The only way to show Reid is a liar, however, is to show the tax forms--like every other Repub Presidential Candidate has. So easy.

  • 4 votes
#1.72 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:40 PM EDT

You know its pathetic when even Obama decides to "distance himself" from Reid.

Tax returns aren't required to be president, a birth certificate is, and look how long it took B.O. to release that. Romney should follow Obama's lead and release them 3 years into his presidency, 2015.

  • 6 votes
#1.73 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:43 PM EDT

With Romney's tax returns there is no legal obligation to show to the people...

Absolutely true...

...and Romney shouldn't.

...Absolutely false. If there is truly nothing in there that would make someone think twice about voting for him, he should post 'em without delay and make the foaming lefties squirm and look like idiots.

Who really cares? I don't. If there is something illegal then the IRS pursues so if the IRS is NOT pursuing all must be fine. So why would some STILL want to see it? Not to see if he paid his taxes because he has and the IRS not pursuing proves that.

I care, because to me, character and trustworthiness are important qualities in a President and as ugly as some aspects of President Obama's past have been, he hasn't gone out of his way to hide the rough edges. I respected President George W. Bush for the same honesty. As for the "tax cheat" theory, that's just a leftist wet dream and I and others have already debunked that one -- there's nothing illegal -- so we're on the same page there.

So why the interest then? Because liberals know Obama can't run on his record so they must try to find something ANYTHING that can distract from the failed Obama policies. So what advantage does Romney have to show his tax returns? None............. So he won't (and shouldn't) show them. Like liberals MIGHT vote for Romney if they could ONLY see his tax returns...........NOT!!

So, in summary, I don't give a tiny rat's behind if you want to see his tax returns. You liberals aren't voting for him anyway. Us conservatives are. And the undecided's see this for what it is - a useless ploy to hide the failures of Obama and his administration so THEY don't care about Romney's tax returns either.

So you are welcome to yell and scream and hold your breath until you turn blue but won't do any good. You won't see the tax returns so it would be better if you start trying to find a way to twist the facts on the Obama failures because that is your only hope in November.

The interest at this point has grown beyond just the returns themselves into a spotlight on Gov. Romney's evasiveness. I'm center-left, myself and can be swayed by facts. President Obama's policies are imperfect, but hardly failures, so this doesn't strike me as a distraction. I like some of Gov. Romney's qualities and ideas, too, but evasiveness isn't one of 'em. See my posts above on that. Unless Gov. Romney really turns it on soon, the GOP camp is going to have to find some other way to convince voters to turn out for a relative stranger if they are to have any hope of reclaiming the White House in November.

  • 1 vote
#1.74 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:52 PM EDT

I think Jon Stewart said it best,

"If your going to make claims that you can't back up, you might as well slap a dead cocker spaniel on your head and start screaming about birth certificates."

@Pjam

Obama's birth certificate was always public record... it is the long form that came later.

  • 1 vote
#1.75 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

I do not know and do not care whether Mitt Romney paid any taxes for the last 10 years. I am sure everything he did was probably legal, with the possible exception of taking advantage of the tax cheat amnesty. But, hey, that was legal too, right? Let me tell you a few things I do know. Mitt made 20,000,000 after taxes in one year. My taxes pay for supplemental programs for many of the workers that have one of the 100,000 jobs he is so proud of creating. After taking 20 million out of one of his companies, he left the taxpayers (me) on the hook for 44 million dollars worth of their pensions after they all lost their jobs. He bought a horse for 77,000 dollars and had me (tax payer again) help pay for it. So yes, I would like to know what else Mitt owns that I helped pay for.

    #1.76 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:27 PM EDT

    Even Obama knows when to steer clear. The stumblebum Reid makes outlandish claims that are proven to be all lies but there are some so gullible they'll believe them. After all, believing such ridiculous nonsense is much better than discovering the truth.

    Evidence of the ideologically crippled gullible believing this tripe is quite evident. Just read the posts.

    • 2 votes
    #1.77 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

    Feisty,

    Donald knows of which he speaks...

    SHOW US YOUR COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS HUSSEIN, and we can clear this all up instantly...

    Unless, you have something to HIDE!

    Someone broke the law if they told Harry Reid anything about Romney's tax returns. Or more likely, Reid is just full of BS.

    • 4 votes
    #1.78 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

    If Harry's lying, the republikkkan puke-ocracy should give him the Honorary Republikkkan of the year award. Maybe a plaque with a forked tongue superimposed over picture of Limblow, saying anything, or a picture of Grassley talking about Death Panels, or a pic of Mittsy talking out of three sides of his face, or of Palin gazing fondly at Putin as he looms over the ak horizon, or a picture of Mr. Moon Colony, or, well, a picture of just about any of the filth that is composted into the Official Party of Racism and Plutocracy.

    • 4 votes
    #1.79 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

    Time to deal with personal responsibility. Reid is alleging that he has information that Romney paid no taxes for 10 years. Let's see if Reid is good for his word or is really just a total jerk and a liar. Romney should demand that Reid agree to resign from the Senate if Romney can produce just one tax return during those years where he paid taxes. I'd add that Reid would have to sign a statement that he agrees that he would resign and that it would add that if he didn't that he agrees that he is a lying SOB and has purposely joined with Obama to destroy the country. Hey, there wouldn't be any reason for Reid not to sign it since he he's telling the truth, right?

    Oh, and for those of you who think making a lot of money and not paying taxes is inherently evil, I'd advise you to actually look up the tax laws. You do realize that the Congress and state legislatures do provide incentives to get people to act the way they want you to. So, if you live here in Iowa and have $2.9 billion in assets you can easily get out of paying any state or federal taxes! How? Just buy local Iowa municipal bonds! State and Municipal bond interest is exempt from federal taxes and Iowa municipal bond interest is exempt from Iowa taxes. Have all your money in these and you don't pay any taxes. Are you then evil? Apparently the dems claim you are. Sure, they help set up these special exemptions, but they will argue that you are evil if you actually take advantage of them That is unless you are GE or some other dem who takes advantage of them. Oh, it's also OK if you are a dem and you just fail to report your income. That will get you in Obama's cabinet.

    • 4 votes
    #1.80 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

    JimD...

    Why just list the 'B-Team' players ??? If your plaque is to have any merit to it at all, put a picture on it of the dumbest person in the history of American politics...Congresswoman Frederica Wilson !!! Go for the 'Gold', JimD...always go for the 'Gold' !!!

      #1.81 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

      Colorado...

      You live a lot closer to Harry Reid than I do...he reminds me of a greeter at the local Walmart.

      What's in the Nevada water system....something odd must be in there to get voters to support the little tweak.

        #1.82 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

        One must not mess with "Harry". He'll put you on your ass every time! Tell it Harry! Tell us about the lying, cheating low life! Tell us about Romney the thief! Tell us about "Mittens" the liar! May the soiled drawers of the "tea party" bunch convey anal rash to the whole pack! You go Harry!

        • 2 votes
        #1.83 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:08 PM EDT

        Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosie are an embassasment to the office they hold and to the country, why don't they just resign. Fair is fair Reid show your tax returns for the last 10 tears.

        • 5 votes
        #1.84 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:15 PM EDT

        What makes any of you think that Mitt Romney cheated on his taxes?

        I think you're missing the point. He didn't pay any taxes and it's all perfectly legal because guess what! He and people like him own the congress that makes the laws. They come up with an advantage and they make it legal so the rich prosper and the middle class suffer.

        Legal is not Moral. Because in this country LEGAL is ordained by the wealthy and the deck is all stacked in their stupid, boorish, entitled favor.

        • 2 votes
        #1.85 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:22 PM EDT

        SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURNS WILLARD, and we can clear this all up instantly...

        Unless, you have something to HIDE!

        SHOW US YOUR COLLEGE TRANSCRIPTS BARRY, and we can clear this all up instantly...

        Unless you've got something to hide!

        Like you got into college claiming to be a foreign student.

        Or your grades stunk on ice.

        Whatcha hiding, Barry????

        • 3 votes
        #1.86 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:53 PM EDT

        Difference is the light from a candle and sunlight in the daytime. No one would looking would know the difference. You republicans are screwed with that pitiful argument. Where are your tax returns Mittens? You're a liar and a thief Mittens!

        • 2 votes
        #1.87 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 7:02 PM EDT

        TO: pjam09 who wrote:

        '...Tax returns aren't required to be president, a birth certificate is, and look how long it took B.O. to release that. Romney should follow Obama's lead and release them 3 years into his presidency, 2015."

        Romney is a potential felon, and that's what Republicans are trying to put in the White House?

        And Republicans want to cancel affordable health care for all Americans in favor of spending that money on more tax cuts for the richest Americans?

        No thanks, to both of those.

        • 3 votes
        #1.88 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 7:31 PM EDT

        Romney is a potenial felon? Says who? Affordable health care? Says who? You ever got a job from a poor person? American Girl - Pretty to look at, but not listen too!

        • 1 vote
        #1.89 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:05 PM EDT

        Romney should release his tax records. Right after Obama releases his BIRTH CERTIFICATE and Fast & Furious Documents

        • 1 vote
        #1.90 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:52 PM EDT

        arg: and college transcripts!

        • 1 vote
        #1.91 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:13 PM EDT

        American girl: Please post your tax returns for the last 12 years here on line! If you don't then we can all assume that you are a potential felon! So, knock it off and use your brain! Oh, and why is he a potential felon? Because he doesn't do what someone else wants him to do? Look at Reid this way: You may have killed Joe, prove that you didn't kill Joe!

        • 1 vote
        #1.92 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:15 PM EDT

        A whole 25 word story from MSLSD? Now opinionated left leaning commentary from the writer? Am I missing something? More on this story as it developes.

        • 1 vote
        #1.93 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:58 PM EDT

        @ bigbenalaska (post 1.3)

        The community collapsed your questions because they have no truth, or if they did I'd have to say our do nothing congress has a major roll to play. I'd even go as far to say our do nothing congress owns all your comment. It really astounds me how people like you can be brain dead for 3 years and then all of a sudden claim they know who or why something has or hasn't happened. Where have you been? Here is another thought before you start blaming our President, during President Bushes term he put troops in Iraq and Afghanistan without approval of Congress. Congress was outraged, claiming them and only they had the power to declare war. Now Congress (Republicans) are crying our President won't do more to help the Syrian people. My question to you sir is why hasn't congress done more or its job as it claims it is? Why is congress only doing what it feels wins votes for Republican candidates instead of what is best for the country and the world?

          #1.94 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:14 AM EDT

          Comrade Tony Baloney

          I am not going to waste a lot of time with You, Mr. Romney's income tax records, made up diversion, by an administration and its useful minions , to distract from their horrendous record.

          Dirty Harry Reid, You surprise me Tony ,but if You really need to be spoon fed, Google "Clean Face Harry Reid Mafia Ties".

          You are right Tony I really don't understand how wonderful Communism is,(forget all the blather about socialism, progressivism,yadda, yadda, yadda, it is ALL communism on the installment plan).More on this later.

          Noble Leader does not conduct himself as a Communist, Really? Compare Mr. Obama's actions and his gradual assumption of dictatorial powers,( ignoring the congress, ruling by fiat, putting in unelected unaccountable "czars" to actually run the government,ignoring laws he wishes to ignore and making up his own rules as he goes), to the Communist Dictator Hugo Chavez, it might open Your eyes.

          And finally Thank You so much For Your oh so comprehensive Review of Basic Freshman Political Systems 101, I can't tell You what it means to me,.......really, .......I can't,..........I had almost forgotten how utterly useless classes such as this were, sorry but You see, I'm a hands on kind of guy,You might say I took a lot of practicum classes in Communism,(a quarter of a century in countries all over the world), where there was little room for theory or philosophy,just the reality of dealing with a system that has been responsible for more deaths than any other political system in the history of the world, but You're a good little Bolshevik for trying to defend Mr. Obama's Communist background, at least We are making progress admitting he has one, but, hey, if it makes You feel any better, I have friends from Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, East Germany, Russia, the Ukraine, Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Angola,(I am sure They didn't take any academic classes in Communist Theory and Philosophy, but they have a real good idea how it actually works), and I am going to make a point of reading your little post to them,(They need a good laugh from time to time).

          • 1 vote
          #1.95 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

          Brockton Barlow "The left wing loons are paralyzed and powerless they have nothing to run on except Obama's failed record."

          What a wonderful cry you've had in your post. You sound like some bloke named "Baghdad Bob" ['the Americans are committing suicide on the city gates'] - Hells, you even have the same initials. Are sure you're not related in some way?

            #1.96 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:53 AM EDT

            Nice move Harry. Joe McCarthy would be so proud of you!

            But then desperate times do call for desperate measures.

              #1.97 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:08 PM EDT

              I lean Obama, but I'm also wise enough to not make up my mind completely before all the facts are in. I'm still waiting for Gov. Romney to present himself as a truly viable alternative rather than just closing the door in his face, and his evasiveness isn't helping him so far.

              Obama conducts himself as a middle-of-the-road Conservative. You might recall that the ACA is a Republican proposal.

              Reading over your writing, you have proven yourself thoughtful enough to be able to understand why this is a reasonable point of view. I would submit that is not the only reasonable one, of course, but I think you can appreciate why it is also a reasonable one.

              Maybe Governor Romney will still surprise us but I am not holding my breath. Given the way he has been taking Obama's words and actions out of context, he is, in my opinion, continuing to dig while in a very deep hole.

                #1.98 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                I hate the half truths and half lies... This is only a distraction.. if it weren't then we would be talking about REAL things of importance .. like the debt and tax reform.. Forget about being Politically Correct anymore.. I want people to be accountable for who and what they are.

                I can say anything too... like I heard from a reliable source that Harry Reid is a child predator.. Doesn't matter if it's true or not with our media any more... they just spew half truths and half lies regardless of how it is taken by the public. They no longer are are watch dogs.

                • 1 vote
                #1.99 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                @J.D.

                Considering you said you weren't going to "waste a lot of time" on me, you sure wrote quite a bit. I appreciate that, because I actually READ and LISTEN and -- here's the kicker -- attempt to LEARN FROM opinions that differ from my own in an effort to educate myself on issues rather than just give a knee-jerk reaction and start calling names. I can handle the name-calling, too, so keep it up if it makes you feel better. I won't stoop to your level, and I'd rather you do that than go Postal in a crowded theater or house of worship, anyway.

                I don't agree that the hubbub regarding Gov. Romney's taxes is merely a distraction. The public is talking about the ups and downs of the economy regardless, and you have to sift through the slant from both sides to find reality. President Obama's record is far from perfect -- it's not as rosy as the loony leftists paint it, nor is it as abysmal as the rabid righties -- but he's done a better job than his predecessor, and (so far) his record, stances, and actions compare favorably to Gov. Romney. No, things aren't great, but it's apparent to me they'd be a damn sight worse if the extremists had their way (and that's on both sides of the spectrum, since President Obama is only slightly more popular with elements of his own party as with the Tea Party crowd).

                Regarding Harry Reid, as I noted previously I am not defending him; I merely pointed out that you had not posted a link to anything supporting your statement regarding him. Without some context, your original post just looked like partisan slander. It might interest you that I took your advice and Googled "Clean Face Harry Reid Mafia Ties" and used several variants ("Mr. Clean Face" or "Clean Face" AND "Harry Reid" "Mafia" etc.) and was quite surprised to find that 7 out of every 10 articles that appeared were opinion pieces posted on Freerepublic.com. I'm not much for the Freeper crowd, but I'll read up on it.

                I didn't say communism is wonderful, so don't go putting words in my mouth. Communism doesn't work, never has, and I have never viewed it as anything but a failure. Marxism I refuted in my post as unrealistic. I was merely pointing that those labels don't apply to our President, and only the ignorant/prejudiced sling them around due to their (deservedly) negative connotations. In that regard, I'm not sure if you missed my point or just proved it. Despite what the FOX/Freeper crowd would have you believe, no, President Obama is NOT a communist. Was President George W. Bush a communist? I didn't think so, but the laundry list you gave as reasoning to why you believe Obama is one sure applies to Bush, too -- every. darn. thing. you. listed. and then some -- and I never thought Bush was a communist. I'll take your advice and compare and contrast offline with Chavez and learn what I can, but don't be surprised if I don't come to the same conclusions you do, as you strike me as being quite unfairly biased in your views. I said my piece on socialism -- applied properly and conscientiously, it's a good and necessary thing, and the same is true for capitalism. What's dangerous and foolhardy is extremism. Socialism, judiciously applied, gives you a healthy and prosperous middle class; applied to an extreme it gives you ineffective governance, a controlled/complacent populace, and corruption. Capitalism, judiciously applied, gives you prosperity; applied to an extreme it gives you tyranny of the priveleged, sweatshops, and corruption. Does that make any sense to you?

                I'm sorry if you didn't get much out of my regurgitation of what should be basic knowledge for anyone who can read a textbook glossary definition, but when I'm confronted with someone slinging labels that don't apply because they don't appear to understand the words they're using, I'm inclined to think they need a refresher. "Know thy enemy," is wise advice not just in combating a foe, but also in recognizing a true threat from a manufactured one. Recalling your post, Chavez is a real threat; "Obama is a communist!" is a manufactured one. As I stated previously, Obama's background warrants examination, but it's not proof of anything sinister. Those that claim otherwise are typically people with agendas talking out of their hats, in my experience, and a wise man should question their aims and motives as much as they might question Obama's.

                Go ahead and share my post with your buddies, and laugh it up, if you must. If anything I said has a positive impact or *gasp* teaches one of you something, I've done my job.

                  #1.100 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:00 PM EDT
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                  What I find interesting is all the people who haven't seen Romney's tax returns are calling Harry Reid a liar, while John McCain, who has seen them, isnt...

                  • 36 votes
                  #2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:34 PM EDT

                  John McCain has publicly stated that there is nothing "disqualifying" in the 20 years of taxes that he reviewed.

                  Do all you moonbats have to be DIRTY LIARS?

                  • 32 votes
                  #2.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:02 PM EDT

                  What I find interesting is all the people who haven't seen Romney's tax returns are calling Romney a liar, including Harry Reid, while the IRS, who has seen them, isnt...

                  • 39 votes
                  #2.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:11 PM EDT

                  Then McCain chose Palin because McCain said in his own words that she was more qualified than Romney.

                  If Romney is so honest and has nothing to hide then why is he hiding his tax returns? It appears that Romney is the dirty liar and refuses to defend himself in the simplest way if he was telling the truth by releasing his tax returns.

                  It takes 6 years of tax returns to apply for a cabinet position, so the republicans now think we should vet the presidential candidate less than the cabinet members. And why?

                  Talk about hypocrisy the republicans have been demanding my presidents birth certificate and school records for years because crap like that is supposedly important but we the people aren't allowed to even see Romney's tax returns, that all presidential candidates since Romney's father have been releasing, because someone might pick on him?

                  Mitt the twit what a wimp he and the republican party have become.

                  • 26 votes
                  #2.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:24 PM EDT

                  Why are food stamp recipients under Obama still rising .... "LOL"

                  • 36 votes
                  #2.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:28 PM EDT
                  Comment author avatarsfcretExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                  Mickey, NY - Still got your head buried in your ass I see. Dingy Harry made the accusation so it's up to Dingy Harry to back it up or shut up. Oh, I forgot the liberals want everything their way. Poor Obama can't get anything done because the big bad Republicans won't kiss his rear end. LOL, Mickey the looser. BTW, Mickey how about the mayor of New York wanting to lock up the baby formula in hospitals to encourage breast feeding. I think it's Bloomberg that wants to do the breast feeding.

                  • 23 votes
                  #2.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:37 PM EDT

                  Did anybody notice that the subject of Ex-Governor Romney's tax returns first emerged on January 19 during the Republican debate? It was Mitts' own Republicans who called him out on his tax returns.

                  • 24 votes
                  #2.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

                  John McCain has publicly stated that there is nothing "disqualifying" in the 20 years of taxes that he reviewed.

                  Steve Schmidt, McCain's campaign advisor, stated that a special group vetted Willard's tax returns, and he didn't see the returns during the vetting process. Now, if Schmidt didn't see the returns, either did McCain. So who's lying now?

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 16 votes
                  #2.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:29 PM EDT

                  John McCain has publicly stated that there is nothing "disqualifying" in the 20 years of taxes that he reviewed.

                  It does bet the question, why didn't McCain pick Romney as a VP candidate after his careful review, vs. an un-vetted candidate (Palin), who couldn't even garner a vote from her handler. Is the GOP asserting they prefer being skirt chasers to picking viable VP candidates?

                  • 13 votes
                  #2.8 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:16 AM EDT

                  @RedDevPS: McCain picked Palin because he was getting his a$$ kicked in the polls. His campaign thought with the ugly democrat primary between Hillary and Obama, that by selecting a woman as his running mate, that they may attract some of the Hillary supporters.

                  It wouldn't have mattered who McCain picked as a running mate. He was the drag on the ticket. If Ross Perot would have ran in 2008 (not at his curent age), he would have won.

                  • 5 votes
                  #2.9 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:53 AM EDT

                  Wow .. 20 years later, and we would have elected Ross Perot. Based upon what? His stellar performance as a business man, like Romney? His pushing jobs overseas, like Romney? His tax cuts to big business and the wealthy, like Romney? There is a reason we didn't buy Ross Perot's presidency in 1992, and it is the same reason people are rejecting Romney now. Big business has no place in government. Let Perot and Romney stake their claims as viable budget-balancing folks. They are good for cabinet appointees and nothing more.

                  By the way, wasn't McCain rather ill informed to pick a skirt pushing Snookie Jersey Shore Low Class Broad as his running VP mate? Drag on the ticket is right, Palin shoved his candidacy over the cliff. As If Bible Spice could even come close to Hillary. The very least he could have done as pick Condi Rice if he needed a woman VP. Republicans are really, that clueless.

                  • 11 votes
                  #2.10 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:10 AM EDT

                  I cannot believe that anyone seriously feels that McCain was the drag on the McCain/Palin ticket. He was keeping it close in the polls till he picked her, and although people were excited about her at first, that excitement soon turned to disappointment when she opened her mouth and revealed her ignorance about basic things like the Bush Doctrine. McCain had the whole war hero/maverick charm going for him, but his campaign thought it wasn't enough, and they thought putting any woman on the ticket would steal those Hilary voters away. They were wrong because Palin doesn't hold a candle to Hilary, and many voters realized that they didn't want someone like her a heartbeat away from the presidency.

                  • 11 votes
                  #2.11 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 5:19 AM EDT

                  Palin was only chosen for the SHOCK value. And "the Maverick" was never a good choice for a conservative.

                  • 2 votes
                  #2.12 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:50 AM EDT

                  The Romney's have their DNA on Tax Fraud !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  • 5 votes
                  #2.13 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:14 AM EDT

                  When liberals want something you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Harry Reid purposely made his wild accusations on the floor of the senate where you are free from legal ramifications. It was Harry Reid that is the accuser, it is Harry Reid that needs to provide proof. Since no one that has actually seen Romney's tax returns is saying anything, then it doesn't take much to conclude its a lie.

                  For the idiot picking on Ross Perot, let me remind you of what he said during the campaign. Perot said the politicians are selling out the American people, and that giant sucking sound you hear will be all the jobs leaving the country. Perot was referring to NAFTA, which Clinton signed into law. NAFTA cost this country millions of middle class jobs that have never returned.

                  Funny how we have a liberal posting that Perot was a businessman and not a good candidate for president. But it was Perot that stood on the stage and proclaimed the outcome of one of the worst trade agreements ever signed into law. It would seem you have made the case for electing a businessman for president, as in this case it was Perot that was looking out for the American people and not the politicians.

                  • 16 votes
                  #2.14 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

                  Thanks Rick. I guess RedDevPS thought signing all of those trade agreements and awarding China permanent favored nation trading status was great for the American middle class. Perot was not afraid to tell the American people what the result would be. Two decades of stagnant middle class wages, millions of jobs pushed overseas, increasing trade deficit...but what could the little businessman know.

                  Unfortunately, once the floodgates were opened, the job creators in the US had to invest their money on where they would get the highest return on their investment. Anyone stating that cutting taxes on the job creators did not create jobs are simply myopic to the borders of the US. Beyond that, the job creators fueled a booming middle class throughout many third world countries while our country stagnated through growth spurts fueled primarily by the dot.com bubble and the housing bubble.

                  As I recall, Perot didn't pick a great running mate though. But, then again, Quayle and Biden don't scream "Great Pick" either.

                  • 2 votes
                  #2.15 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

                  John McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class. He never learned how to land the fighter jets that is why he crashed several of them and was captured; With that said, he did not look at Willardo's taxes to make any definitive statements regarding them!!!

                  He was only trying to win an election that he knew he could not win!! His statements regarding Willardo's taxes has no bases. "Outsourcing", 100 million dollars in an IRA, bankrupting companies and getting Government baleouts is too high on MCCain's pay grade. He doesn't have the intelligence to even know what he was looking at even if he saw the tax records.

                  Give um Hell Harry!

                  Obama 2012!!

                  • 4 votes
                  #2.16 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

                  Harry is a doddering old fool and shame on Nevadans for voting for this liar. Sorry you're so obsessed with Mitt's money -- go out and get a job and earn some $$$ for yourself. For the record 80% of companies assisted by Bain made it. Obviously Solyndra should have asked for Bain's help instead of the inept empty suit in the WH. As far as tax records go all he needs to do is follow the letter of the law. But keep drooling the left talking points -- you people make it to easy. "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" you just proved that the old saying is absolutely correct.

                  • 6 votes
                  #2.17 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                  What I find interesting is all the people who haven't seen Romney's tax returns are calling Harry Reid a liar,

                  Like the Washington Post!

                  They called dirty Harry a liar too!

                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/four-pinocchios-for-harry-reids-claim-about-mitt-romneys-taxes/2012/08/06/c31a1402-e007-11e1-8fc5-a7dcf1fc161d_blog.html?wprss=rss_fact-checker

                  • 3 votes
                  #2.18 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

                  Romney has shown the latest year's tax returns, so lets see Obama's last year's transcripts?

                  What I find hypocritical on the side of the liberals is that there is nothing whatsoever to point to Romney having done anything illegal but yet you still want more information. On the other hand, there is evidence that Obama has done some things that were either illegal, unethical, or both and yet you are willing to let that slide.

                  • Romney has foreign accounts - there is nothing illegal or unethical about having foreign accounts
                  • Romney has not disclosed every tax return he has ever filed - He has provided the latest years tax returns and there is nothing illegal or unethical in those returns. A McCain staffer who has seen the returns stated that there is noting disqualifying in the returns. So there is a named credible source.

                  On the other hand:

                  • Why is it that Obama no longer has a license to practice law in Illinois?
                  • In connection with one of his book deals why is it stated that Obama was not born in the U.S.? (and I'm not saying he was not born in the U.S., but why is there conflicting information from his own sources?)
                  • Why are Obmana's transcripts sealed, what is he hiding?
                  • 1 vote
                  #2.19 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

                  The teabag rethugs have proven once again to be a bunch of thin skinned wussy punks. They want to examine a sitting presidents college transcripts, and record of birth. Yet CRY like sissies when their farce of a candidate is asked to show a FEW years of tax returns. America, remember bushcheney, were still digging out of the MASSIVE pile of DUNG the last rethugs left us. POWER to the PEOPLE = Harry Reid!

                  • 1 vote
                  #2.20 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:02 PM EDT

                  Ahhhh, the ambivalence of election season.........we hate it, but we love it, don't we?

                  Most of the posts on here are complete BS, void of any real purpose, and rank with sophomoric schoolyard petulant bickering.

                  BUT- Since you guys LOVE to argue, I won't step on anyone's toes. No good reason to expect a bunch of "adults" could possibly go to an online forum and act, well, like an adult, so don't let me stop you!

                  All I really wanted to say is that I doubt Romney has done anything illegal or shady with his taxes. Like some others have said, if that was the case I'm sure the IRS would be all over it. But I also suspect he has engaged in some pretty creative accounting, and does not want everyone to know how he has managed to hide, albeit legally, a certain portion of his wealth. And he certainly is not the only one who does this! I'm more interested in what his plans are for our economy in general, not his personal, potentially ill-gotten wealth

                  As for Obama, yeah, I would like to see his college transcripts as well. But let's be honest, college WAS a long time ago for him, and I do not begrudge anyone from changing their political ideological views over time. It is perfectly normal to have a change of heart over time about certain matters. This is NOT the same as changing one's stance in order to pander to a specific group, or to do so dishonestly for short-term gain. But I really do not care what courses he took in college, nor do I care how good his grades were. We have had many presidents over the years that were not exactly academic geniuses, and they (largely) did okay as POTUS. And if he was a member of some "communistic/socialistic/marxist group back then, oh well. Everyone has the right to explore different political mindsets before they develop their own ideological views. And the process of developing a political ideology takes time, many years imho. So what if he was interested in some commie group 30 years ago. I'm more concerned about his views within the last 5-10 years. THAT is what I find more important.

                  And Harry Reid......whatever. Like most politicians, he opens his mouth far too often for any good to come out of it. Democrat or Republican, the hot water he often finds himself in is another example of why we need term limits. But stick to what matters, ignore the whimsical fluff, and focus on real issues that affect all of us. There is plenty of argument to go around with those.

                    #2.21 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:15 PM EDT

                    well indy boy,, you sound like a stuffed brain dead repug,, your comments about Harry Reid are disgusting as i imagine you are as well.

                    Why don't you go back to sleep for several years

                      #2.22 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 1:03 PM EDT

                      Go Harry, go for the KO! I love the smell of Swiss-boating in the morning. Oh wait, except Romney really does have a Swiss bank account...and gees, how did he get all that tax-deferred money into that IRA, and what's that Mitt? You don't know if you ever paid less than a 13.9% tax rate? Really? And based on your record of never releasing tax returns, and lying about your taxes, we should just "trust you that?" Seriously?

                        #2.23 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 3:16 PM EDT
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                        Comment author avatarBrockton BarlowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        What an absolute disgrace that not one democrat will renounce Reid for being the dirty liar he is!

                        • 33 votes
                        Reply#3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:00 PM EDT

                        Prove it.

                        We know for sure Romney has paid less than a 13.9% tax rate, we just don't know how much less or for how many years. In order to prove Reid wrong, Romney will have to release his returns and voters will see how much 1%ers like him get away with paying little or no taxes.

                        And on the other hand Romney HAS been caught in lies more than once, so I am inclined to side with Reid.

                        • 25 votes
                        #3.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:03 PM EDT
                        Comment author avatarBrockton BarlowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Voters don't care about Romneys taxes. Only the nitwit lefties care. Voters care about jobs, about the economy, about their lost savings, about the deficit their kids are inheriting. They care about the lack of leadership from a community organizer that conned his way into office by changing his negro dialect (as the great Harry Reid would say).

                        • 32 votes
                        #3.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

                        Right, and that is why when you apply for a cabinet post you have to give 6 years of returns because it is so unimportant. Romney gave McCain 24 years of returns to apply for the VP slot.

                        Now we are to vet presidents less than that of VP applicants and cabinet members because Romney has something to hide and it is the party's obligation to defend whatever slime Romney is hiding. Makes about as much sense as the rest of the republicans policies.

                        • 16 votes
                        #3.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:27 PM EDT
                        Comment author avatarRedDevPSExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Voters don't care about Romneys taxes.

                        Really? Sounds like a birther walking back the birther claims. Heat seems to be a bit much for those folks. I'll tell you who cares .. all the non-wealthy classes. If Romney has preferential treatment under the tax code that allows him to draw $57k per day without paying any taxes, that is going to be an issue for anyone who earns $57k per year and pays taxes at a rate of 30%. Unlike your ilk, most voters want to know just how much the system is rigged for the wealthy. Romney's taxes will give insight to that disparity and make most American's who are not part of the elite question a candidate that can buy a Caddy SUV each and every day with change left over to furnish the table with steak dinners for all. Boy, that isn't something I can relate to - I can't afford a steak a day, much less an SUV per day. If only I had invested in Bain capital, why gosh, I could probably afford a can of corn or pork and beans per day.

                        • 14 votes
                        #3.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:32 AM EDT

                        Romneycare won't release his returns because he knows it will be a big blow up. He is not smart enough to realize if he gets it over with, the voters will forget. He is dragging it out, and it is awesome!

                        Sooner or later, his goons and handlers will figure out they have not a chance in He!! if they don't, and they'll release them early to mid-October, just in time to plant his 13% tax rate firmly in everyone's mind. I love it.

                        • 6 votes
                        #3.5 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:17 AM EDT

                        Romney's tax returns will remain an issue throughout the campaign. Obviously there is some valid reason that Mitt chooses to keep his returns secret ~ and if you are falling for that "privacy" argument then you are terribly naive. Next, Romney will present himself as a 'victim' and all the Romney loyalists will rally around in the "Mittness Protection Program." Every moment spent on this will nurture doubts about Romney and take the focus off his message of jobs, economy, and recovery.

                        • 7 votes
                        #3.6 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:46 AM EDT

                        The Romney's "RAFAICA" is in jail for horsing around with the IRS, what is Annie going to do for her Therapy ???

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.7 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:21 AM EDT

                        It has been almost impossible to vet Obama since everything about his past has been sealed. McCain has publicly stated there is nothing in Romney's tax returns that would disqualify him. Since McCain has seen the tax returns and Reid hasn't, it comes down to which would you believe? McCain would win an honesty poll over Reid by a landslide. Harry Reid is simply not a credible source. Reid has a checkered past, and the LA Times did an article about it many years ago.

                        • 10 votes
                        #3.8 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

                        Prove it.

                        The article above pretty much does that, if Obamas people smelled blood, they would not back away from this.

                        The IRS did not ignore Romney for 10 years, that is just silly, and to think that Obama would not direct the IRS to go after a known tax cheat is also just silly, why wouldn't he? HE pretty much knew he would face Romney, why would he not go for the kill?

                        There is no reason to believe Reid until the Obama people confirm there is somthing fishy and they refuse to do so.

                        For now, that is as proof positive as it gets.

                        • 4 votes
                        #3.9 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

                        We know for sure Romney has paid less than a 13.9% tax rate,

                        So what? Wealth does not indicate or require an income stream. Capital gains is 15%, to be suprised that investment gains are the majority of his gains is naive or simply ignorant.

                        • 5 votes
                        #3.10 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:36 AM EDT

                        The only people who care about this is the far extremist left. I saw two polls in the last week of the top issues in this campaign. No where in any of them did Romney tax records show up in the top 20 issues. Outside of the far left, this has no steam. To get moderate Dems and independent to even look at this you need some evidence of wrong doing. So far we have wild charges and zero (I mean none) evidence of anything. If Romney is living off of savings, then he owes ony 15% on his gain in the investment. May I remind you he already paid the regular going rate on this income when he earned it in the first place.

                        • 5 votes
                        #3.11 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:42 PM EDT

                        You know its pathetic when even Obama decides to "distance himself" from Reid.

                        Tax returns aren't required to be president, a birth certificate is, and look how long it took B.O. to release that. Romney should follow Obama's lead and release them 3 years into his presidency, 2015.

                        • 5 votes
                        #3.12 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

                        Harry Reid is a flaming cross dresser...that's the word on the street. OK, Harry should now prove that it is a lie. Do you libs actually believe what you say. The best way to deal with an outlandish lie is to ignore it. It is simply not worth arguing over. Reid is simply baiting Romney and he should not take the bait. Reid can't even submit a budget in the Senate and he is now an expert on Romney's tax returns....give me a break.

                        • 3 votes
                        #3.13 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:01 PM EDT
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                        Comment author avatarBrockton BarlowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Time for the dog eating, pot smoking, coke snorting Marxist to pack his bags. Obama Has caused more damage to this country than any one in the past 60 years.

                        • 26 votes
                        Reply#4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:08 PM EDT

                        Obama will go down as the worst president in the history of history ....

                        And even much longer than that .... "LOL"

                        • 22 votes
                        #4.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

                        Brockton

                        We do try to exchange opinions or insightful comments. Your post is neither. I am putting you on my ignore list and encourage other readers to do so also.

                        • 11 votes
                        #4.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:19 PM EDT

                        That's kind of foolish ....

                        Do you ignore your bills also when they come in the mail .... "LOL"

                        • 20 votes
                        #4.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

                        Done, LOYALTEXAN, done. And I am especially offended by his implication that "nitwit lefties" don't vote.

                        • 6 votes
                        #4.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:28 PM EDT

                        Loyal Texan..I did it too.. Why don't these trolls go to a right leaning blog and just lie to each other...

                        • 2 votes
                        #4.5 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                        It's probably because you silly liberals lie with such enthusiasm! "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!" - Slick Willy Clinton. Or, "I will not run negative campaign ads!" - The almighty bho. Or better yet, "(insert any quote from reid as that anything that oozes from his mouth sphincter is a lie...)". Same could be said about pelosi. Have a great day in silly liberal land, you silly liberals!

                        • 8 votes
                        #4.6 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:01 AM EDT
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                        How hard would it be for the RNC to out the snitch? Start with a list of everyone connected to Bain who could possibly have had access to Mitt's tax returns. Figure who on the list might be partisan or disgruntled. Have your investigators drive up in their black Tahoes and give em the third degree.

                        Somebody will crack.

                        • 8 votes
                        #5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:12 PM EDT

                        Yeah that's insightful.

                        • 9 votes
                        #5.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:23 PM EDT

                        Loyal Texan - How do you out a snitch that only exist in Dingy Harry Reid's head? But I have a good idea let's have Dingy Harry prove he's not a fiiggin liar.

                        • 19 votes
                        #5.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:52 PM EDT

                        Remember what they did to Herman Cain?

                        I wonder how many more people from Romney's past will appear with accusations. They already used the dead guy for the high school haircut prank, how low can they go?

                        • 17 votes
                        #5.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:19 PM EDT

                        Senator Harry "Dingy" POS and a friggin lying sack of dung. Come on Harry prove me wrong, give us the name of your source. You can't because it's all in your head. Also the White House put Dingy Harry up to this, that's why they won't condemn it.

                        • 20 votes
                        #5.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:11 PM EDT

                        How hard would it be for the RNC to out the snitch? Start with a list of everyone connected to Bain who could possibly have had access to Mitt's tax returns. Figure who on the list might be partisan or disgruntled. Have your investigators drive up in their black Tahoes and give em the third degree.

                        Somebody will crack.

                        Impossible. Why? There isn't a snitch. There's a reason hearsay isn't admissible in court.

                        • 5 votes
                        #5.6 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:04 AM EDT
                        Comment author avatarPatriotic American U.S.A.Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                        Reid is a much better person then Romney, this Clown Romney is a Loser and Losers don't Win !!!!!!!!!!!

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.7 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:32 AM EDT

                        Out the snitch? There is no snitch. Harry Reid just stood on the senate floor and made wild accusations. It was Harry Reid that has made the claim, it is Harry Reid that should provide the proof.

                        • 10 votes
                        #5.8 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:51 AM EDT

                        Patriotic American

                        Just what in the hell makes you so patriotic? What was your MOS?

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.9 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:01 PM EDT

                        Won't it be satisfying when Romney releases 10 year of tax returns (like Obama did) and proves that Harry Reid is lying through his teeth? Won't it be wonderful to learn that Romney is an upstanding loyal American who pays the same rate of taxes as the middle class and therefore feels their pain and understands their problems?

                        lmao...

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.10 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:25 PM EDT

                        Pedestrian: If O's big cudgel is showing that Romney paid a lower effective rate than the middle class, the dems are in big trouble. Romney may have paid a lower effective rate, but he has paid more in the aggregate than anyone in the middle class will ever pay.

                        In any event, it will be just as satisfying to prove Reid wrong as it will be for O to prove Wayne Allyn Root wrong by releasing his academic transcripts.

                        See http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama’s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/#_methods=onPlusOne%2C_ready%2C_close%2C_open%2C_resizeMe%2C_renderstart&id=I0_1344369524606&parent=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblaze.com

                        Then both sides will repose in post-release bliss seeing that the naysayers have finally been proven wrong by the release of such important documents. Now, who should go first, O or R?

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.11 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

                        factcheckero, funny that you wouldn't check with Snopes before running with such a silly story:

                        http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

                        Just in case you'd prefer not to click on the link, here's an excerpt:

                        "Although Barack Obama may not have been particularly social or memorable during his years at Columbia, it isn't true that "no one ever came forward from Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc." Those who have attested to having daily personal experience with him during his time at that school include:

                        • Friend and roommate Sohale Siddiqi, whom the Associated Press located and interviewed in May 2008.
                        • Roommate Phil Boerner, who provided his recollections of sharing a New York City apartment with classmate Barack Obama to the Columbia College Today alumni publication and the New York Times in early 2009.
                        • Michael L. Baron, who taught the year-long honors seminar in American Foreign Policy that Barack Obama took during his senior year at Columbia and recalled in an NBC interview Obama's "easily acing" the class and receiving an A for his senior paper on the topic of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.

                        Likewise, other external evidence documents Barack Obama's presence at Columbia from

                        1981-83, including:

                        • An article by Barack Obama published in the 10 March 1983 edition of Columbia's Sundial school magazine.
                        • A January 2005 Columbia College Today profile of Barack Obama as a Columbia alumnus.
                        • A Columbia College press release from November 2008 identifying him as "the first College alumnus to be elected President of the United States."

                        Finally, the fatal flaw in the "Obama didn't go to Columbia" theory is that he couldn't have been admitted to Harvard Law School in 1988 without having received an undergraduate degree. If he wasn't attending Columbia from 1981-83, he would have had to complete two full years' worth of coursework at (and graduate from) some other accredited college — yet his time between the end of his Columbia days in 1983 and his entering Harvard Law in 1988 is accounted for (working at the Business International Corporation and the New York Public Interest Research Group, then serving as director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago), and no other school claims him as an alumnus, nor does anyone purport to have encountered him as a classmate or student at any other college or university during that period.
                        Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp#wTfzuGsUcIHXHmp4.99 "

                        Willard's dad was right about tax returns - releasing 1 or 2 generally mean that you have something to hide. ;)

                          #5.12 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:34 AM EDT

                          Come on Ped. I'll concede that both Root and Reid are telling "silly stories." And citing Snopes is no better than me citing Romney's release of his taxes to McCain and McCain reporting there's nothing incriminating in them. The documents speak for themselves. Let's see both sets from O and R. Fair enough?

                            #5.13 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 11:40 AM EDT

                            Factcheckero- "Romney may have paid a lower effective rate, but he has paid more in the aggregate than anyone in the middle class will ever pay."

                            Dude, let me say this REAL slowly for you.........

                            IF.....YOU......MAKE.....LOTS.....OF...MONEY.......YOU....WILL.....PAY....MORE....IN.....TAXES!!!

                            For example, if I make a million bucks this year, and you only make $40,000, and assuming I have made my money through capital gains (investments) and you made your money through work income, then my tax rate will be lower than yours, respectively, but I will pay a larger amount because I have made many, many times more what you did.

                            This is not rocket science. Of course the more you make, the more they take. The aggregate figure is non-sequitur. The actual tax rate is what matters.

                            Now, I do not consider you to be stupid, based upon your other posts. But let's try to keep from spinning bull@!$%#, can we??

                              #5.14 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:28 PM EDT

                              Is the rate what matters? In your example, who is contributing more - in the aggregate from all types of income - to the fed fisc? That is hardly a non-sequitur.

                              The top 25% of earners pay 86% of all income taxes. We have a progressive system already. Focusing on effective rates is a class-warfare red herring. It appeals to "fairness," the definition of which varies from person to person.

                              At the end of the day though, aren't we concerned with the amount of dollars flowing into the treasury as opposed to everybody paying the same rates on all varieties of income?

                              And don't we want people making more money ... so ... they ... pay ... more ... in ... taxes?

                                #5.15 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                                Nope. If I pay 18-20% of my earnings, I expect the Romneys to do the same. Their money does not make them better than anyone else, it doesn't make them entitled to better/more services, and it doesn't make them more American.

                                  #5.16 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                                  Huh? You aren't concerned with the amount of dollars going into the government. Only the rates?

                                  The Romneys are in a higher bracket than you for ordinary income. And you pay the same rate on capital gains. Your rates are lower than theirs.

                                  Nobody said their money (or your money) makes anyone better than anyone else. You are entitled to more government services with less income, and you are free to purchase better/more private services than the Romneys if you want. And nobody disputes anyone's American-ism

                                  This is sour grapes. The Romneys will pay more in taxes in one year than you'll pay in your entire lifetime. Plus, you're not even in the highest income bracket right now. I pay more than you in ordinary income taxes - by rate. Yet I'm not demanding that you pay more.

                                  But you demand the Romneys pay a second "ordinary income" tax on gains from post-ordinary-income-taxed investments even though they are still paying the secondary capital gains tax. It is clear that this is not an economic argument you are making but rather simple class envy. That's fine, but it won't do crap to get our economy up and running. See, e.g., the last three years. Viva la France.

                                    #5.17 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

                                    lol "Class envy," eh? Don't tell me you're going to play the old "you're just jealous" card. No sour grapes either. I paid 19% last year and I'm happy to do so. After all, considering the lifestyle I have and the many things my taxes pay for, I consider it quite the good deal, but I'm a patriotic American, not an elitist con man. As for taxpayer funded resources - I wonder how fast the local police/fire department respond to a call in Mitt's neighborhood vs. a call to mine? I wonder which neighborhood schools will get new textbooks first? Don't bother telling me I have access to better/more services - we all know better.

                                    The Romneys can pay the same percent on income as the rest of us - no shell games, no secret accounts, no crafty investing, no waving the flag in one hand and crossing their fingers behind their backs with the other. No tax breaks for hobbies, no lying about resident status in order to vote in one state or the other, no special treatment, no crying about how jealous everyone else is. The current system has done nothing for the middle class while being wildly successful for people like the Romneys. Our economy hasn't been helped at all by ten years of Bush tax cuts, trickle down doesn't work, and if we're going to get serious about the debt (now that there's a Democrat in the White House) tax revenue plays a serious part in doing so.

                                    Been to France lately? ;)

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #5.18 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 8:32 PM EDT

                                    It is class envy. If he pays more than you - in toto - and you still want to extract more, that is the only reasonable conclusion. But, that money is there for you and me too, so long as we are willing to work for it and our talents allow it. Go get it and you can pay more in taxes too.

                                    Why is Romney and elitist con man? You make a good amount of money being in the 19%. Are you a con man? Didn't you earn that money too? Why the ad hominems? They aren't necessary, but suggest, dare I say, jealousy?

                                    And you and I both know schools and local fire/police are state functions - supported by local property and state income taxes. Who pays more in state income taxes (if your state has them) and property taxes? You or Mitt with his mansions. Just sayin' :)

                                    And, sorry, you do have better access to better federal services funded by federal income taxes if you have less income. You know that too.

                                    It looks like you support a flat tax. I do too. Glad we are in agreement on that. Let's make it the same for everyone. Just not France's 75%. Deal?

                                      #5.19 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:11 AM EDT

                                      ha! you and that jealousy thing. You know, it might be class envy if I thought a) they had any class; or b) if I thought they were happier, healthier or even more fortunate than I. Neither of those scenarios apply (even if I really, really wanted a car elevator.) You see, I know people like the Romneys. They think they're better than the average working stiff, they think their money entitles them to a different set of rules, and Mitt has no more interest in improving the lot of Americans than he does volunteering at the local humane society. He just wants to be President Romney. I think if you were honest about this, you'd acknowledge that there is a distinct air of 'used car salesman' that surrounds our GOP candidate. He says whatever his audience in the moment wants to hear, and he'll adopt whatever platform will work at the time. He dodges and lies and chuckles and doesn't have the decency to even be embarrassed about it. That's not the kind of person I want representing me or leading our country because I don't trust his motivation for wanting to do so.

                                      Flat tax? It's definitely worth exploring. I think we could probably do 25% and keep a healthy safety net in place for the elderly and the infirm, but I'd like to see quite a bit more in the way of infrastructure spending for a few years right off the bat. It's not going to happen soon though, if ever. The people pushing the buttons kind of like our current system.

                                        #5.20 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

                                        I think if you were honest about this, you'd acknowledge that there is a distinct air of 'used car salesman' that surrounds our GOP candidate. He says whatever his audience in the moment wants to hear, and he'll adopt whatever platform will work at the time. He dodges and lies and chuckles and doesn't have the decency to even be embarrassed about it. That's not the kind of person I want representing me or leading our country because I don't trust his motivation for wanting to do so.

                                        I will be honest; they're politicians. All of them have a "used car salesman air." I don't trust any politician. And neither should you. Now you'll have to be honest about O. If you are a member of the dem base (as I suspect you are), you'll have to admit that everything you wrote about R is equally applicable to O.

                                        Gitmo still open? War still on? Drones? Extending the Bush "tax cuts" past their earlier expiration date? Single payer? Bipartisanship? Post-racial? Solyndra? The latest super PAC "murder" ad?

                                        Our disagreement, fundamentally, lies in economic theory I believe. I am a supply-sider. You are a Keynesian. This difference, unfortunately, is irreconcilable. We can throw citations and stats at each other all day, but neither will convince the other. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.

                                        Now for some more honesty:

                                        You know, it might be class envy if I thought a) they had any class; or b) if I thought they were happier, healthier or even more fortunate than I. Neither of those scenarios apply (even if I really, really wanted a car elevator.) You see, I know people like the Romneys. They think they're better than the average working stiff, they think their money entitles them to a different set of rules, and Mitt has no more interest in improving the lot of Americans than he does volunteering at the local humane society.

                                        You know "class envy" is simply economic disparity. He has more than me, so he needs to pay more. That's it. It isn't about you wanting more (car elevators, etc.). It is about you wanting him to have less. Just because.

                                        I have no desire to play socialite with the uber-wealthy. It would, frankly, make me miserable. But, if they want to do that, and if they have a lot of money, who cares? Just because I don't particularly like rich people doesn't mean they shouldn't be rich. It is not envy of the class because you aren't in it, it is rather envy of their wealth and desire for them to be taken down a notch. You know that.

                                        And you make a huge assumption about the Romneys. How do you know they think they are better than the average worker? Romney himself went on religious missions to help the poor. And he gives handily to charity. And what rules does he think he gets to live by that we don't?

                                        If you are being honest, look at your statements and tell me that you don't want the Romneys to pay more because you flat dislike them. And that dislike is based on a lot of assumptions. It is OK to dislike them, but not OK to take their stuff on that basis. That, Ped, is class envy.

                                        Anyhow, I enjoy our discussion. We're miles apart on political philosophy, but I appreciate your civility.

                                          #5.21 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 12:29 PM EDT

                                          Well, damn it. I had a nice reply all typed up and zapped it accidentally. Suffice to say you're right - I do dislike them. I've watched Mitt's evolution from MA, and I've seen them both interviewed and I've paid attention. Mitt's vast experience is in gaming the system and winning. There seems to be the attitude that we're stupid and easily fooled, and all they have to say is "oh, we feel your pain, we're just like you" and we'll believe it. The horse is the perfect example. It's obviously a business, so tax write offs wouldn't be unheard of. However, when asked about it, the first words out of Mitt's mouth are "Oh, my poor sick wife!" So, what it is it? A therapeutic hobby? Then pay for it yourself. Gaming the system is what they do, and I don't trust that they don't think the rules are for the little people. Or, as Ann so graciously put it... "You People."

                                          Obama. Yeah, I voted for him, and I probably will again. He's a bit more conservative that I prefer, but it's not all about me. I do think that he really was naive and arrogant enough to think that he would get compromises on things. I think he figured "I'm a smart guy, I can solve these problems." I don't think he anticipated the constant non-stop barrage from the GOP or the Tea Party, and I don't think he expected the viciousness he's experienced i.e. the communist, kenyan, anti-american, socialist, nazi blah, blah, blah. Gitmo? His first executive order was to close it. Wars? They suck. They sucked from the beginning. Drones? I suppose it's better than boots on the ground, but it's a flucked-up bloody way to do business. Tax cuts? Oh, come now. You know how that went down. Don't pretend otherwise. Single Payer? It was my preference, but it would have died on the floor. Solyndra? Yeah, that was stupid. The companies that did well won't make news though, will they. Post-racial? ?? The super-pacs are a whole different conversation. Both sides are disgusting, both sides will get worse. Citizens United will ensure this keeps happening until we understand just how damaging it is.

                                            #5.22 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

                                            All the more reason for a flat - no loophole/deductions/etc - tax. But I won't fault the guy (or even you) for taking advantage of all legal deductions to reduce his (or your) tax liability.

                                            Please also consider that "gaming the system" is almost as axiomatic on the other end of the income scale when it comes to entitlements.

                                            You're a good fit for SF. Although, last I heard, your gov approved that boondoggle train to nowhere business. I wonder how you feel about that, being increased infrastructure and all? Anyhow, the conservative wing will welcome you with open arms once you see the light. Pleasant sparring. I'm sure we'll run across each other in another thread.

                                              #5.23 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

                                              Okay, now you're getting nasty. And we were doing so well... -sigh- I already take the train when I travel south - it's a nice, leisurely, comfortable way to travel, and the scenery is quite nice. Didn't your dad ever take you on the train when you were a kid? Since I got rid of my car about a decade ago, I'm all for alternative means of moving people and creating jobs at the same time.

                                              One last question for you - when you stated that Mitt "helped the poor" were you talking about his time as a missionary in France? You do know that he "helped the poor" in France while living in a huge chateau complete with servants, right? He was hardly working in clinics, feeding starving kids or building homes or hospitals - he was knocking door to door in his little suit spreading the good Mormon word. I guess there weren't any poor in the U.S. to proselytize to... or in Vietnam either for that matter. ;)

                                                #5.24 - Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:20 PM EDT
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                                                Comment author avatarbigbenalaskaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                                                Obama wishes he could hide his entire presidential record ....

                                                Which has been nothing but a complete disaster .... "LOL"

                                                • 21 votes
                                                Reply#6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

                                                And yet you would have us believe that going from a tax surplus and low unemployment to a bad recession and the largest deficit in the history of our country in just 8 years was a success.

                                                And President Obama the man who pulled us out of all that and has had 29 months of job growth is a failure?

                                                You can lead a person to knowledge, but you can't make them think.

                                                • 11 votes
                                                #6.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:51 PM EDT

                                                Quite the logic American Patriot(?). We have two failed Presidencies in a row so your plan is to extend the second one to make up for the first???

                                                You are a wizard!

                                                • 13 votes
                                                #6.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 5:48 AM EDT

                                                When you factor into the Clinton presidency that he signed NAFTA into law and cost this country millions of jobs over the next decade plus, there was no surplus left by Clinton. Tax revenue has plummeted with the loss of all those jobs, and far more then surplus they had on the books at the end of his presidency.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                #6.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:54 AM EDT

                                                To: Americans First:

                                                Ok, if you say 29 months of Job growth? Then why is unemployment above 8% for 29 months? We are loosing as many jobs as we are adding. You say Romney wants to go back to the old policies that got us here. So then why do you support Obama who's policies have gotten us no where??? but deeper in Debt!!

                                                Romney in 2012

                                                • 9 votes
                                                #6.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:06 AM EDT

                                                Foot*... we are no longer losing TWICE AS MANY jobs and adding none. It might not be improvement fast enough for you, but it is improvement.

                                                  #6.5 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 5:47 PM EDT
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                                                  New York Times Editorial:

                                                  Then, in an extraordinary lie, Mr. Romney issued a statement Saturday turning the lawsuit around to accuse Democrats of trying to end early voting for the military. “President Obama’s lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state’s early voting period is an outrage,” he said. He went on to say that the “brave men and women of our military” make tremendous sacrifices for the country, and that everything should be done “to protect their fundamental right to vote.”

                                                  The lawsuit does nothing of the kind. It simply seeks to give civilians the same voting rights as servicemen and women. But just as Republicans have twisted the Voter ID issue into a fight against a phony trend of fraud, they are now trying to turn the early-voting battle into a defense of the military against an administration falsely portrayed as anti-soldier.

                                                  If Mr. Romney truly cared about the “fundamental right to vote,” he would support it for everyone, even those who might not support him.

                                                  ___________

                                                  President Obama wants everybody to have the right to vote. Everybody. Unlike Romney.

                                                  Romney's statement is an out and out lie.

                                                  • 25 votes
                                                  Reply#7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:17 PM EDT

                                                  That's a lie ....

                                                  Clearly ....

                                                  • 8 votes
                                                  #7.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:23 PM EDT

                                                  What's a lie? Clearly.

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  #7.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:23 PM EDT

                                                  Who does Romney not want to vote that has the right to .... ??

                                                  • 10 votes
                                                  #7.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:26 PM EDT

                                                  Ben,

                                                  It's all they got!

                                                  Hard to run on failure. I'm Barack Hussien Obama vote for me and I'll give you another 4 years of economic misery.

                                                  Really? What's a boy to do?

                                                  • 16 votes
                                                  #7.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

                                                  If Obama had a record to run on, he would. But since he doesn't, the liberals are just making stuff up. More smoke and mirrors, more blame, more accusations, and more lies. Liberals can't be honest, they are the do or say anything to stay in power crowd. The Democrats are even the party most responsible for the unemployment in this country, since it was Bill Clinton that signed NAFTA into law which cost the nation millions of jobs over the next decade plus. Oh how liberals like to blame Bush for job losses, when that giant sucking sound of all the jobs leaving the country, was Clinton's doing.

                                                  • 9 votes
                                                  #7.6 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:59 AM EDT

                                                  Course he has a record to run on, you Repubs just don't like his record. Remember 2004..........I do.

                                                    #7.7 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 7:52 AM EDT

                                                    Kathryn, please tell us about the president's wonderful record since we are apparently not going to hear it from him.

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #7.8 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

                                                    Still waiting to hear about the president's stellar record that he could be running on instead of talking about insignificant things like tax returns....

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #7.9 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:49 AM EDT

                                                    When Florida started cross checking driver’s licenses with voter registration records to weed out illegal immigrants from voting Obama and his team had a conniption, and ordered Holder to stop it from happening! It seems that Obama really does want everyone to vote! Illegals, dead people and not just once but multiple time as suggested by the multiple registrations of the same people by Acorn one of Obama's earlier connections! Constitutional law means nothing to Obama! Perhaps that is why he was disbarred from ever practicing law again?

                                                    As for Rommy's tax returns, well, we are still waiting to see any transcripts from the colleges Obama supposedly attended! Oh, by the way, how about a real Birth certificate?

                                                      #7.10 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 7:30 PM EDT
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                                                      That Obama fiscal cliff is just around the corner ....

                                                      Kicking in hard in January ....

                                                      But will Obama mention it at all during his campaigning ....

                                                      No way ....

                                                      So lets talk about Mitts taxes .... "LOL"

                                                      Which he has always been a law abiding tax payer ....

                                                      That's all that matters ....

                                                      • 18 votes
                                                      Reply#8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

                                                      Bigben...

                                                      Correction , it is the whole Congress that will be looking at the fiscal cliff on Dec 31,2012.

                                                      Obama is very clear. He will sign an extention of tax cuts for those making under $250,000 that will expire on Dec.31. He will veto any bill that includes tax cuts for those making over $250,000.

                                                      Menawhile ,the Congress is not concerned, just ask old John Boehner. He and the rest of them are on August recess until mid September!!

                                                      • 8 votes
                                                      #8.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:35 PM EDT

                                                      If the republicans were willing to compromise for what best for America then we would never have to go over the cliff.

                                                      But the republicans are fighting for only the top 1% and couldn't care less for the rest of us. Why else would the republicans have just voted to protect the special tax cuts the corporation get to be reimbursed for the cost of moving our jobs overseas?

                                                      So off the cliff it is and Norquist has lost his power to protect the rich from paying the same percentage in taxes as the rest of us pay.

                                                      As far as the military spending, why don't we re-direct that money and jobs to re-building America. Is it really our job to be policemen of the world while we deny our children at home food and a good education?

                                                      Sometimes it is hard to believe that the so called right to life people are the base for the republican pro-war/death party.

                                                      The right to life people claim to care and then votes for the party that vows to take food out of the mouths of children for a bigger tax cut for themselves.

                                                      • 12 votes
                                                      #8.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:57 PM EDT

                                                      Yeah, we need to let those top tax rates expire, after all the 80 billion that will bring in can run the government for a day. Liberals actually believe the Bush tax cuts are the only problem. But never in all the class warfare rhetoric from liberals is there any mention of how much is enough? How much do liberals think is fair to tax people's money? How much do liberals think the government should take from people? Until you can answer that question, this is nothing but class warfare and a deflection from the fact that our government is out of control.

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                                                      #8.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

                                                      Northstar -

                                                      That would make Obama responsible for the increase in taxes - no one else.

                                                      I really don't think he's got the nerve to do that. He is a coward at heart. Why else would he kow-tow to our enemies (Iran, North Korea ring a bell?)?

                                                        #8.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

                                                        Tammy- What would you prefer our POTUS do, exactly? Barge on into NK and/or Iran and start another war? We haven't been attacked by NK or Iran (or Iraq, or Afghanistan for that matter), so why start another war of aggression against our so-called "enemies"? Do you get excited about the notion of seeing more of our countrymen coming home in pine boxes? Or do you just want to see more dead Iranian or Korean civilians?

                                                        You wouldn't happen to have a business selling coffins, do you? Hmm.

                                                        And did you think Obama was a coward when he asserted our role in the Libyan affair??

                                                        Come on, now. Grow up. War is always unnecessary, except to enrich the few who make the bombs. The ones who throw them get to die for their efforts. Which side are YOU on?

                                                          #8.5 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:45 PM EDT

                                                          Obama is in his forth year as president and stil has not passed a budget! During two of those four years he had a democrat controlled Congress an still no budget! It seems he feals that if his name is not on one he cannot be blamed for anything! Except being worthless as a President!

                                                            #8.6 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 7:36 PM EDT
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                                                            To all Americans,

                                                            Watch your elected representatives closely. If anyone of them votes for or suggests a tax increase of any kind, vote them out of office. Democrats and RINO's have ruled for far too long.

                                                            STARVE THE BEAST!

                                                            We need Mitt Romney to SEVERELY reform our government!

                                                            Slash and Burn ----- CUT CUT CUT CUT!

                                                            • 17 votes
                                                            Reply#9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:20 PM EDT

                                                            No one likes Romney. Check out this campaign appearance. Too funny.

                                                            Amazing romney crowd listening to his riveting speech. pic.twitter.com/IF96NmmC

                                                            And here we go again:

                                                            Greg Sargent, WP: I don’t suppose there’s any point in noting this, but the Romney campaign just released a new Web video that again deceptively edits Obama’s “didn’t build that” speech to completely change its meaning.

                                                            • 9 votes
                                                            #9.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:01 PM EDT

                                                            This starve the beast is a con job the rich are pulling on the people to destroy the economy so the rich can buy America real cheap.

                                                            For an extra dollar the corporations have been more than willing to destroy American jobs and America's economy. Once government is gone there will be no one left to protect the people from unscrupulous rich people who would pollute and leave our planet for dead for an extra dime.

                                                            Remember in 2008 the greedy bankers threw America and the world into a great recession because we had gotten rid of the laws to stop them. And the new laws are the ones the republicans are vowing to get rid of so the bankers can properly rob us again. This is what starve the beast promises unchecked greed.

                                                            Just how are we to cut cut cut if Romney starts another war like he has been promising? Still no one is allowed to raise taxes no matter how large the deficit gets?

                                                            This slash and burn and cut, cut, cut you are recommending is the same policies they tried in England and Ireland and both are now in double-dipped recessions. Is that your goal for America another recession?

                                                            And Mittens is not even man enough to release his tax returns much less do anything else. For someone who claims to be such a financial wizard he sure doesn't want anyone to see how he got there.

                                                            I think what Mitt is hiding is so bad that even republicans won't vote for him once they know and that is why Mitt the twit will never release his tax returns and therefore will never be president.

                                                            Remember when Mitt was asked if he ever paid less than the 13.9% we know about he has thus far refused to answer a yes or no question. Which means the answer is yes because he would have gladly let out a no answer if it was true.

                                                            • 9 votes
                                                            #9.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:44 PM EDT

                                                            Carter lead Reagan by 8 points in late October and lost the election by 10. You better hope history does not repeat itself, because this time Obama is going to face an opponent that fights back. While Obama is running from his record, Romney will be reminding everyone about it. While Obama is trying to deflect with talk of taxes and class warfare, Romney will stay on message. While Obama is claiming he has more work to do, Romney will be reminding voters of what little work has been done for them. Obama has no record to run on, or he would.

                                                            • 9 votes
                                                            #9.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:18 AM EDT

                                                            Brockton, I would like to congradulate you on the enormous magnitude of your personal financial wealth.

                                                            (Brockton has made it abundantly clear he's either enormously wealthy or enormously stupid. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt.)

                                                              #9.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:17 PM EDT
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                                                              We can be sure that anything on Romney's tax returns will be legal since he and his CPA know that they might be scrutinized thoroughly by the ferrets at the IRS. In any case they can have no possible effect on the country as a whole.

                                                              We can't say the same for the Fast and Furious documents that Obama is hiding by Executive Privilege. Obama talks “transparency” and practices the most aggressive obscuration.

                                                              Apparently the documents relating to Fast and Furious are so damning to Obama that if they come to light he would not only lose the election, but might also be sent to prison.

                                                              • 15 votes
                                                              Reply#10 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:59 PM EDT

                                                              Why are the Republicans asking for documents ONLY for the period after the border agent was killed? Oh, it's because the laws in Arizona made the gun purchases LEGAL. If they asked for documents for BEFORE the purchase and BEFORE the border agent was killed it may make the gun manufacturers and the NRA look bad.

                                                              In addition, the documents that the Republicans are demanding are part of a CONTINUING INVESTIGATION which if made public could actually cause the investigation WITHIN the DOJ to fall apart and people who SHOULD go to jail would go free. Hmm ... it's like the state legislature demanding the prosecution file of a MURDER while the investigation into the murder is ongoing. You ARE aware that anything read into the record in Congress is PUBLIC, right? I'm sure the "law and order" Republicans want people who could be prosecuted for criminal actions to GO FREE just because they want a WITCH HUNT.

                                                              • 1 vote
                                                              #10.1 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                                                              Cat

                                                              If you state is true? Why dont they release the documents? This will clear everything up. Right? I mean left, way left!!!

                                                              • 4 votes
                                                              #10.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:12 AM EDT

                                                              Cat

                                                              You really don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you? Gun purchases are federally regulated , and don't have a thing to do with the states. Where do you get your information from? Go try to purchase a gun anywhere, and you have to fill out a form for a federal background check. The states don't have anything to do with that.

                                                              • 3 votes
                                                              #10.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:09 PM EDT

                                                              You know its pathetic when even Obama decides to "distance himself" from Reid.

                                                              Tax returns aren't required to be president, a birth certificate is, and look how long it took B.O. to release that. Romney should follow Obama's lead and release them 3 years into his presidency, 2015.

                                                              • 4 votes
                                                              #10.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                                                              We can be sure that anything on Romney's tax returns will be legal since he and his CPA know that they might be scrutinized thoroughly by the ferrets at the IRS.

                                                              Agreed. With Romney's army of lawyers and CPA's, like you, I"m sure they have him tip toeing down the line on the legal side. No criminal case will be forthcoming.

                                                              I does concern me, however, that once the John McCain Team looked over Romney's financial records they eliminated him from consideration as VP. After seeing those records, they picked Palin.

                                                              Now, McCain's Team wasn't concerned with uncovering criminal activity. They were concerned about electability. It's apparent that in the opinion of McCain's team, if Romney's complete financial records became public they could never win the election. That their chances were better with Palin.

                                                              Just imagine that; these smart political strategists figured their chances were better with Palin.

                                                              Now, that's scary.

                                                                #10.5 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:28 PM EDT

                                                                Just because McCain saw Romney's tax returns before he decided not to choose him as his running mate, doesn't mean that the tax returns had anything to do with the decision....

                                                                  #10.6 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 9:47 AM EDT
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                                                                  This can be cleared up very easily. Mitt Romney provided 10 years of tax returns to John McCain when McCain was looking for a VP candidate. McCain says he paid taxes. Let's see, John McCain's word vs Harry Reid. Well McCain's a war Hero, POW, and an honorable man. Harry Reid is one notch below a piece of $hit. It's a no brainer.

                                                                  • 12 votes
                                                                  Reply#11 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:06 PM EDT

                                                                  Add in Obama and you have the three stooges ...... Harry, Bo and Squirrelly (a.k.a. "botox nancy") ! LOL !!

                                                                  • 9 votes
                                                                  #11.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:14 AM EDT

                                                                  Actually, McCain's team saw over twenty years of Romney's financial records.

                                                                  After they did, they eleminated him from consideration as VP.

                                                                  After looking at Romney's tax records, they knew Romney was unelectable.

                                                                  After looking at Romeny's records, PALIN looked good!

                                                                  THAT'S what I"d like to see....screw a bunch of what Harry Reid says....I just want to see the records that made Palin look good! Man, that's GOT to be somethin'!

                                                                    #11.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:35 PM EDT
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                                                                    The old Dirty Harry - a gunslinger with a 44 mag.

                                                                    The new Dirty Harry - a sh#tslinger with a 44 IQ .

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                                                                    Reply#12 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:29 PM EDT

                                                                    Everyone, even Obama, recognizes that Reid is is making up the most grievous lies. And yet everyone here seems to take it for granted. The left says that it's Romney's responsibility to "clear it up," and "prove Reid wrong." The right points to Obama's record.

                                                                    If a citizen lies to one senator in an official setting, he can go to prison for six years. But it would seem that if a senator lies to all the citizens in the country we accept it as normal, and there are no repercussions to the liar.

                                                                    When did our elected representatives become a privileged elite ruling class? Where is the outrage?

                                                                    • 15 votes
                                                                    Reply#13 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:38 PM EDT

                                                                    Really, Kannin? What proof do you have that Reid is lying?

                                                                    Who can prove he is lying?

                                                                    Why, Mittens!

                                                                    Except he hasn't.

                                                                    Why do you suppose that is, Kannin?

                                                                    • 13 votes
                                                                    #13.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:53 PM EDT

                                                                    What proof do you have that Reid is lying?

                                                                    Simple. Reid stated as fact "Romney hasn't paid income taxes for 10 years". The only way Reid could know that as fact is if he examined 10 years of Romney's tax returns. Since he hasn't, he is lying!

                                                                    • 14 votes
                                                                    #13.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

                                                                    LOL, that's pretty much in simple terms!!! Oops, I said simple.............my bad

                                                                    • 3 votes
                                                                    #13.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:14 PM EDT

                                                                    There is that "Outrage" word again. You must be from Fox news...they use that word every 30 minutes.

                                                                    Harry Reid is not lying!

                                                                    • 6 votes
                                                                    #13.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:31 PM EDT

                                                                    PTNY - What proof do you have that "Harry Reid is not lying!"? Your own little fantasy?

                                                                    • 12 votes
                                                                    #13.5 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:37 AM EDT

                                                                    PTNY - How could you read Fox News "every 30 minutes", and still be so uninformed?

                                                                    • 9 votes
                                                                    #13.6 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:16 AM EDT

                                                                    Any politician who stands before America should be drummed out of office, fined $100,000 and never allowed to run again. No matter what office they run for, dog catcher to president. Stop all the lying scum bags.

                                                                    • 3 votes
                                                                    #13.7 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

                                                                    Romney-hood can stop all this anytime he figures it out. He's pretty slow, so I expect he will allow himself to twist in the wind for a couple more months, while people rehash his ill gotten wealth and focus on Romney-hood being firmly ensconced as the flag bearer for the 1%ers.

                                                                    He's a fool, and he's putting it on display for the world. Yeah, real presidential material.

                                                                    • 3 votes
                                                                    #13.8 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:22 AM EDT

                                                                    Harry Reid did not say it is a fact, he said this is what he was told but he didn't know if it was true or not.

                                                                    So it is actually you who is the liar!!!

                                                                    • 4 votes
                                                                    #13.9 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

                                                                    So, Andie469, ARE YOU SAYING HARRY REID IS A GOSSIP QUEEN ?

                                                                    " .... and you'll never hear one of us repeating gossip ....

                                                                    so you better stand close and listen good the first time"

                                                                    Spreading something inflammatory in nature, not knowing if it is true or not, is simply spreading "manure".

                                                                    • 9 votes
                                                                    #13.10 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:47 AM EDT

                                                                    As president Obama called it "Romney-hood" Willard steals from the poor and give it to the rich... A play on Robin-hood... He. He, He...

                                                                    Harry is his own person, and for someone to call him a liar, makes the accuser look bad and the accused look good...

                                                                    • 2 votes
                                                                    #13.11 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:22 AM EDT

                                                                    Terry - " makes the accuser look bad and the accused look good"

                                                                    You mean like accusing someone of not paying taxes for a decade?

                                                                    Liberals and their inability to grasp their own blatant hypocrisy... the result of self-righteousness combined with a complete lack of intelligence.

                                                                    • 5 votes
                                                                    #13.12 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:57 PM EDT
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                                                                    Leave it to the Libtards to expect that someone should have to prove their innocence by producing evidence to exonerate him. We don't work that way in America, at least thats not the way its supposed to work...... The same line of thinking they employed about George Zimmerman...

                                                                    Romney paid $3.27 million in federal income tax in 2010. While most would say, "great job" and appreciate that considerable contribution to our federal coffers, Liberals will only complain that he paid only the capital gains rate on his income... Liberals either don't understand, or more than likely don't care, that the reason capital gains tax rates are lower than ordnary income rates is because the money invested in the capital has already been taxed at least once at an ordinary income rate... And for all you welfare dependant liberals out there, what you should say is simply Thank You...

                                                                    A guy that balanced a state budget, a supurb businessman, a job creator (Staples (90,000) Dominoes (!75,000) Sports Authority (15,500) -- More net new jobs in a short carreer in the private sector than Obama has produced in his entire presidency! That Romney sure is a Bastard aint he?

                                                                    • 11 votes
                                                                    Reply#14 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:09 PM EDT

                                                                    That Romney sure is a Bastard aint he?


                                                                    Yes he is!

                                                                    • 3 votes
                                                                    #14.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:33 PM EDT

                                                                    Daniel, the money has not already been taxed. You do not get taxed on the invested money only the gains--hence the term capital gains!!!

                                                                    • 1 vote
                                                                    #14.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:41 AM EDT

                                                                    But where does the invested money come from ?

                                                                    Income is earned, taxed as ordinary income at normal rates. What is left over, after living expenses, is invested. Interest income and dividends are taxed again at normal rates, and capital gains are taxed at lower capital gains rates. The U.S. Government gives capital gain status to encourage U.S. investors to TAKE RISK in investments not traditionally associated with safer investments in banks.

                                                                    • 6 votes
                                                                    #14.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

                                                                    They pay only on the gain, not on the capital.

                                                                      #14.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:15 PM EDT
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                                                                      Romney has been living his entire life covertly.

                                                                      Slipping into companies, getting rid of most of the employees, stock goes down, then he buys 51% of the company for a song, rehires employees off shore for dollars and walks away with the loot. This would account for his 100 million dollar IRA.

                                                                      Taxes are just another example of the life he leads.

                                                                      • 7 votes
                                                                      Reply#15 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:28 PM EDT

                                                                      PTNY..."proctologically" speaking... like most brainwashed, un-informed obomots who have their heads stuck so far up obozo's @$$ you can't breathe nor see through the methane....Romney's business success rate is 78%...meanng he turned around and made those companies profitable.

                                                                      Unlike our community organizer who can't even clean up a coffee spill at the local ymca...LMAO

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                                                                      #15.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:06 AM EDT

                                                                      All the while paying 13% or less on his ill gotten gains. Romney-hood can't escape his past. He'd like to, but he made his choices, and now he has to live with it.

                                                                      The only good part about all of this is, when he is defeated for the second time, it will be the last we hear of this wimpy empty suit.

                                                                      • 4 votes
                                                                      #15.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                                                                      Starderup - what "ill gotten gains"? And who is the "empty suit"? I'd say we have one right now in the Oval Office. And as the senate majority leader. That guy is an embarrassment to our country. He is a fool.

                                                                      • 5 votes
                                                                      #15.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

                                                                      Unlike our community organizer who can't even clean up a coffee spill at the local ymca...LMAO

                                                                      No $hit? Are you serious? Well by-gawd, he can forget my vote. I will not cast a ballot for any sumbich who spills coffee and certainly not for a slackard that won't clean it up. I've got a flash for you, Slide ~ the United States Government is not a "business." It isn't structured like a business and were it so it could not operate. We have had successful businessmen filling high government posts previously and damned near every one of them fell flat on their face. When you are sole owner and stockholder of a business, serve as its president and CEO along with chairman of the board, you can rely on autocracy to manage it. That will not work in government because neither the people nor the Constitution will allow it.

                                                                      • 5 votes
                                                                      #15.5 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:08 AM EDT

                                                                      Well, Jim in Texas, Our country is about $16 trillion in debt with NO BUDGETS during Obama's administration. The national debt has already increased more in Obama's 3.6 years of office than in 8 years under Bush.

                                                                      I've got a flash for you "slide" ... if Obama's fi$cal irresponsibility leads our country into a bankruptcy situation. you can whine all you like ..... it will be on Obama and all who refuse to adapt U.S. spending to our income. Everything the government does HAS A COST.....but you libs are not concerned with paying for it, only kicking the can down the road !

                                                                      Right now, 40+% of every U.S. tax dollar goes just for DEBT SERVICE ! Our country must start acting like a business on fiscal matters, or our country will be "out of business".

                                                                      As far as the "autocracy" part of your comment .... it is Obama who picks and chooses which laws he will enforce and which he will not. It is Obama who issues executive orders to bypass the will of Congress.

                                                                      • 9 votes
                                                                      #15.6 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:02 AM EDT

                                                                      jim-1455434

                                                                      Right now, 40+% of every U.S. tax dollar goes just for DEBT SERVICE !

                                                                      Yes, that is true we pay for the debt (I'm not sure about the %), and if President Obama had not spent a single penny that % would still be pretty high, between the actual debt and the accumulating interest. Or do you really think that all this debt was accumulated since President Obama took office?

                                                                      We are still paying for all the debt accumulated by previous administrations. Reagan raised the debt 189% in the 8 years he was in office; but you on the right never said a word about that (and still don't). Or how about Dick Cheney saying deficits don't matter. It seems it only matters to republicans when there is a democrat in office.

                                                                      You talk about the democrats spending but GW Bush was the first "leader" in the history of this planet to cut taxes during a time of war. Talk about deficit spending!!!! At least the democrats try to pay for their agenda--you know the old saying about tax and spend democrats. Tax to pay for spending but somehow the republicans turned that into a bad thing. Republicans just spend and spend and spend and cut taxes so their is less to pay for their spending. So which party is actually fiscally responsible? The ones that want/try to pay or the ones that don't?

                                                                        #15.7 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:23 PM EDT

                                                                        Most of the huge deficits have come in Bush's last 2 years when Dems controlled both Senate and House and during Obama's first 2 years ....... when Dems controlled both Senate and House. Prior administrations passed budgets as required by law.

                                                                        Where is Obama's budget ? Where is his fiscal plan for our country ??

                                                                        • 4 votes
                                                                        #15.8 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

                                                                        jim

                                                                        The House generates a budget, not the President. The House voted for the Ryan budget. You know, the one that cuts domestic spending and gave the Defense budget additional $$ that they did not ask for. To justify the increase, Ryan and the Republicians said that the Pentagon did not know what they need. Go figure that one. Ryan's budget also turns SS and Medicare into a voucher system.

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                                                                        #15.9 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:31 PM EDT

                                                                        Buckaroo Banzi
                                                                        Narrow minded fool. Please don't say he ranked 47 in job creation as governor.

                                                                        Why? Is that statment untrue? Or do you simply wish it was untrue?

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                                                                        #15.10 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:40 PM EDT

                                                                        Snailguy ..... you're a little SLOW aren't you ? Traditionally, the President of the United States is to prepare his annual U.S. budget PROPOSAL and submit it to Congress. Congress then acts to agree, disagree, change or modify as they see fit with the House usually getting first review before passing on to the Senate.

                                                                        Obama's budget proposals have been SOOOO BAD that not a single Democrat has ever voted for his offering. The House has passed budgets and sent them to the Senate where Obama's stool-pigeon Harry Reid has refused to bring them up for vote.

                                                                        If Obama was truly the leader he is supposed to be, he would push Congress on proper completion of the budgetary process. Obama has not done this because he wants to operate without a budget and use it to play politics as he sees fit.

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                                                                        #15.11 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:06 PM EDT
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                                                                        I heard fron a very good source that pelosi only had an IQ of minus 2 but reid had her beat by a half point, at least that's what I heard so it's a fact, ain't it. So OK reid an pelosi it's out there so you show us your school records to prove it, or it is a fact. THAT'S KID S-HIT I know I know I know.

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                                                                        Reply#16 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:34 PM EDT

                                                                        The White House has distanced itself from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s comments that GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney hasn’t paid taxes in a decade.

                                                                        The White House has distanced itself because they know Mr. Reid's statement was unfounded, and untrue. (That Mr. Romney shared his 2010 return nullifies Mr. Reid's statement right there. "Hasn't paid taxes in a decade.....except for 2010.....).

                                                                        If Governor Romney publicized his returns, we'd find out he made lots of money! Do you think? And probably took advantage of the tax laws (written mostly by Democrats, by the way). All of this is fun fodder for followers but does nothing to solve the problems in the country. Isn't it that 67% or something don't care about Romney's money? I'm almost positive the 12 million unemployed and all those applying for disability don't really care about any of the rhetoric from our candidates. Can we move on?

                                                                        Instead of accusations about taxes, maybe Congress could pass a law: Anything spewed from the mouth of a politician has to be positive and true.

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                                                                        Reply#17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 11:35 PM EDT

                                                                        Candice, that used to be true of the media, but then fox went to court to fight fir the right to lie!!!

                                                                        If Romney releases his tax returns we will find out a lot more than he made a lot of money. For instance did he partake in the amnesty program for Swiss bank accounts? Did he invest in companies that go against the republican stated "values" (like investing in a company that disposes of aborted fetuses -yes he did). There are many things that we can find out about Mitt Romney that has nothing to do with how much money he has.

                                                                        Interesting that the right screams about the percentage of people that do not pay any federal taxes, yet they are not screaming to see Mitt's tax returns to prove that he is not one of those people. I guess they feel it is only wrong if poor people don't pay taxes but it seems by their reactions that its perfectly acceptable to them that rich people don't pay.

                                                                          #17.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

                                                                          Candice - my dear Willard did not show his complete 2010 Federal Tax Return he omitted an addendum which would show his off shore accounts

                                                                          So Candice - you must be a woman - would you believe a man who said TRUST ME - it won't hurt a bit?

                                                                          Or TRUST ME - I have had a vasectomy - better yet Trust Me - I know what's good for you! But don't ask questions

                                                                          Trust is earned not given freely!!!!

                                                                            #17.3 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 4:03 AM EDT
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                                                                            Pelosi Fumes at Requests to Release Tax Returns, Implies Journalists Should Have to Do the Same

                                                                            Friday, 20 Jul 2012 11:16 AM

                                                                            By Patrick Hobin

                                                                            House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi turned tense and testy yesterday when pressed as to why she refused repeated requests to release her tax returns, even as she is among the loudest voices calling for Mitt Romney do the same, McClatchy News Service reported.

                                                                            "When I run for president of the United States, you can hold me to that standard," the California congresswoman snapped. When asked whether she and members of Congress should abide by the rules she and other Democrats have set for Romney to release his returns.

                                                                            "There are no rules. There are no rules," she huffed. "There's no rule about releasing his tax return, so what rules are you referring to?" When asked about the standard she had cited for a presidential candidate, Pelosi said, according to McClatchy, "It's up to the American people. The American people are the judges of that."

                                                                            On Wednesday, McClatchy reported that Democrats shouting the loudest about Romney's reluctance to release his tax returns do not apply the same standards to themselves and cited Pelosi and Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada among hundreds of elected officials from both parties who refused to release their tax records, McClatchy reported.

                                                                            Pelosi has said Romney was unfit to serve as President or even in the Cabinet because of his refusal so far to release all of his returns and Reid has said Romney wasn't even fit to be dogcatcher.

                                                                            But just 17 out of the 535 members of Congress released their most recent tax forms or provided some similar documentation of their tax liabilities in response to requests from McClatchy over the last three months, the news service reported, indicating a double standard. Another 19 members flat out refused and the rest didn't even bother to respond to McClatchy's request.

                                                                            Pelosi even ridiculed any push for full release of returns by Congress, saying journalists should have to do the same.

                                                                            "Maybe they [returns] should all be made public, maybe it should be a public function. What do you think of that for everybody?" Pelosi asked, according to McClatchy. "For everybody who writes about it, for everybody who hires people who write about it, the corporate ownership of the media and what are they doing as far as their taxes are concerned.

                                                                            "Let's not be silly," she said. "It's up to (Romney) to take the consequences of not doing it, or doing it, but not to deflect (the issue) to say, 'Well, if he has to do it, why doesn't everybody else have to do it?'"
                                                                            Pelosi then said, according to McClatchy: "Because everybody else is not running for president,'' she said, "and that's the last thing I'm going to say about it."

                                                                            © 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

                                                                            The fallacy behind the wealthy Democrats claiming to be advocates for the poor and middle class is most egregious in the way they consider and depend on their constituency being ignorant and lazy minded sheep...

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                                                                            Reply#18 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:01 AM EDT

                                                                            daniel:

                                                                            You must have missed the civics class part that members of Congress do not need to release their tax returns. They do have to submit personal finance statements. Issa has 95 million on his statement. Not poor.

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                                                                            #18.1 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                                                                            snail - Presidential candidates don't need to release tax returns either, but you already know that don't you? You're just too much of a party-owned sheep to acknowledge it.

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                                                                            #18.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:02 PM EDT
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                                                                            this article is very interesting and also very informative.

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                                                                              Reply#19 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:36 AM EDT

                                                                              This is typical Democratic "BS". Even Paul Begala on CNN admitted there is no evidence of anything wrong. But just throw it out there. Romney is squeaky clean so Begala admitted if there isn't anything there, they must invent something. Anything to get the discussion off jobs and the economy which are killers for the Democrats. There is nothing in either of those for the Democrats to run on but failure.

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                                                                              Reply#21 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:34 AM EDT

                                                                              If this is so terrible, why haven't most of the Democrats released their tax returns. You say Barack Obama did !! Of course he did. When you have done nothing and not accomplished anything, there is nothing on them worth seeing. I bet the President used the short form. We all know Romney is rich and successful. But I want someone for President who has accomplished something and knows what he is doing when it comes to the economy. This is why almost every poll shows that over 60% of American voters trust Romney on the economy more than Obama. It is the difference between success and a record of economic failure.

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                                                                              Reply#22 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:40 AM EDT

                                                                              No the President did not release the short form. So being a College Professor, Lawyer, State Senator Successful Book Author, US Senator and President of the United States is not a real job

                                                                              Gosh, many Republicans are showing signs of short term memory. I myself remember how bad the economy and unemployment were under President Bush and getting worst up to his last days in office, with 750,000 jobs were being lost a month . Then on day one you have the Republicans in office vow to make the President a one term President, and not work with him.

                                                                              So actually the truth is, President Obama inherited this incredible brink of depression mess from President Bush and President Obama has done a good job of turning the country around.

                                                                              Then you look at Willard and think what has he done besides make money, and screw thousands of people over. He has no record to run on because he is running from his record.

                                                                              If Willard Romney was clean, he would release his taxes and get a 10 point bump in the polls. With such logic, Willard is really dumb or dirty.

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                                                                              Reply#23 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                                                                              If Willard Romney was clean, he would release his taxes and get a 10 point bump in the polls. With such logic, Willard is really dumb or dirty.

                                                                              You are right ~ and that coupled with the automatic bump following the convention, VP nomination, and cash donations, he would be leading by double digit numbers in every state. I don't think Romney is "dirty" but lets just say cleanliness can sometimes be unwelcome when everyone else is having to wrestle in the mud of poor economic conditions. How the Hell do you get to salt away $100-million dollars in a tax-deferred annuity when the other people are limited to $5-thousand a year? In the general scheme of things this is probably not important ~ but it is to me because I'm one of those mud wrestlers limited to Five-grand. I don't think there is any question that Romney's handlers and campaign managers are dumb ~ that is on display daily. Makes you wonder what kind of whiz kids he will select to flesh out his administration.

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                                                                              #23.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

                                                                              Jim - "How the Hell do you get to salt away $100-million dollars in a tax-deferred annuity when the other people are limited to $5-thousand a year? "

                                                                              Wow, you are an idiot. An IRA is not an annuity, there is no limit on annuities.

                                                                              P.S.

                                                                              B.O. didn't release his birth certificate until 2011... talk about brilliant handlers, and well, the administration speaks for itself. Failure.

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                                                                              #23.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:08 PM EDT

                                                                              Give um Hell Harry!!! Bushy Bush was an alcoholic, and used Cocaine and was the dumbest
                                                                              President ever!

                                                                              OBAMA 2012!!!!

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                                                                              #23.4 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

                                                                              all pols should show tax info period.i heard harry killed somebody when he was young. now he has to prove he did not,until proves he did not harry is a killer.does that make sense? no . harry is not fit to be senator .

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                                                                              #23.5 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:10 PM EDT

                                                                              bob - sorry - that is a stupid remark - unworthy for an informed discussion

                                                                              All members of Congress must file financial returns - hence how would we find out that Michelle Bachmann got farm subsidies - and her husband received financial aid from Medicare to train his staff - to pray away the gay?

                                                                              As far as Harry Reid killing anyone - actually in his younger days he was a wrestler - soft spoken and tough - I'd put my money on him - I believe he could take down Willard - who only goes after young boys with a scissors - so daddy can cover up his misdeeds

                                                                              Plus Harry doesn't need a Patrolman's Uniform to pretend to be a cop

                                                                              Sorry your boy has some real serious issues - Heh - Heh - Heh

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                                                                              #23.6 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 4:14 AM EDT
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                                                                              He is the Democrat's number one attack dog and most powerful man in DC. He certainly does not "speak for himself". Since we all know better, the White House statements appear ludicrous once again.

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                                                                              Reply#24 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

                                                                              Romney has to win several states to get the job he's running for, Reid only has to win one state to keep his job, and that's if Reid is even up for reelection this year, is he?

                                                                                #24.1 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

                                                                                Not until 2016 for Reid.

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                                                                                #24.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                                                                                No, Reid was re-elected in 2010, in one of the dirtiest campaigns run in Nevada in a very long time. There were claims of the tampering voting machines by the SEIU which were never investigated - although the claims were very specific as to what was happening. (Reid's name already marked on the ballot an unable to be changed to the other candidate's name is just one example.)

                                                                                  #24.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 8:07 PM EDT

                                                                                  Tammy, you are repeating proven lies! If Nevadans wanted the Tea Potty Queen they would have voted her in ... fortunately for you (although you probably don't have the mental acumen to appreciate it) Nevada voters recognized Reid's hard work for the state through the years. You're just sore because Nevadans actually turned out to vote and sent the witch home, instead of some Tea Dregs bumbler stumbling into office on a dismal 5% or 10% voter turnout. Yeah, that's right ... those midterm Tea Potty darlings scraped in on a low midtern turn out. But guess what? This time, people are not so complacent, so don't count on a repeat.

                                                                                    #24.4 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 4:05 AM EDT
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                                                                                    at_liberty: Don't believe everything you read.Axelrod came out yesterday and said just the opposite and two others very near to the President.This is too funny-Just make up some sh#% and hope it sticks.Romney could clear this up in a New York second-Show your taxes!!! You go Harry !!

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                                                                                    Reply#25 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:13 AM EDT

                                                                                    I wish Mitt Romney were to merely release cancelled checks to the IRS ! That would prove he paid his taxes !!

                                                                                    Of course, liberals would "wet themselves" in anger when they realize this ill-conceived comment of Harry Reid had backfired and did NOT force release of his returns, but proved Harry a liar in the process!

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                                                                                    #25.1 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:08 AM EDT

                                                                                    jim - You are making the mistake of assuming that liberals can learn; also everyone already knows that Democrats are liars. Liberals will just keep crying and whining until they eventually cease to exist.

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                                                                                    #25.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                                                                                    Jim: Hahaha cancelled checks, ha ha ha! If he paid, proof it! Simple! I am buying the cup with Obama's birth certificate and I will buy the cup with the cancelled checks! Hahaha!

                                                                                      #25.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:28 PM EDT

                                                                                      "Proof" it ? And what's with this cup thingy ?? Have you had too much wine in your cup ???

                                                                                      Reading is fundamental and so is spelling. Your posts make no sense so I guess you support Obama.

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                                                                                      #25.4 - Wed Aug 8, 2012 12:12 PM EDT
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                                                                                      It amazes me when the likes of Reid and Pelosi bark the loudest about not releasing tax returns, yet refuse to release their tax returns for teh past 10 years. fair is fair, if I am Mitt, I challenge them to release theirs and then I release mine to see an apples to apples comparision.

                                                                                      In the end though, it is about following the tax law. if they all followed the law, what is the beef? The beef should be to rewrite the tax code. While we are at, let's aslo rewrite fr the 50% of wge earners who pay zero in federal tax every year. Fair is Fair so everyone who uses our great country should contribute at least 15% of their salary. It is peanuts, but at 50% of people not paying, it because a ton of peanuts in a hurry.

                                                                                      Last, Mr. President needs to explain why his wife and him had major issues concerning their law liscense. If they are on the up and up, then why did they have issues?

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                                                                                      Reply#26 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

                                                                                      Why did Michele get disbarred?

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                                                                                      #26.1 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                                                                                      the 50% number is circumstantial

                                                                                      The 51 percent figure is an anomaly that reflects the unique circumstances of 2009, when the recession greatly swelled the number of Americans with low incomes and when temporary tax cuts created by the 2009 Recovery Act — including the “Making Work Pay” tax credit and an exclusion from tax of the first $2,400 in unemployment benefits — were in effect. Together, these developments removed millions of Americans from the federal income tax rolls. Both of these temporary tax measures have since expired. (Center On Budget and Policy Priorities)

                                                                                      What issues are you referring to in regard to Law Liscenses?

                                                                                        #26.2 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

                                                                                        Michelle was not disbarred(Another LIE from the Right). She let her law license lapse.

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                                                                                        #26.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:07 AM EDT
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