Romney bus tour fuels VP speculation

 

WASHINGTON and WOLFEBORO, N.H. -- The veepstakes speculation just got more fuel.

The Romney campaign today officially announced its swing-state bus tour beginning Saturday. It will start in Virginia; then head to North Carolina Sunday, the day the Olympics conclude; Florida Monday, Aug. 13; and end in Ohio Tuesday, Aug. 14.

Potential vice-presidential picks will be making appearances.

NBC's Alex Moe reports that Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R-VA) will join Romney on the first leg of the tour in Virginia. 

NBC's Andrew Rafferty reports that Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH), a veep front runner, will join Romney in Ohio.

*** UPDATE *** Marco Rubio will join Romney on part of the Florida leg of the bus tour.

Today, Romney huddled with top aides, including chief strategist Stu Stevens, and Beth Myers, head of the VP search process, for more than two hours at his lakeside home on Monday. Also present -- senior adviser Eric Fehrnstrom and Policy Director Lanhee Chen.

One aide described the meeting as a strategy session, and denied that the vice-presidential selection was discussed.

It's possible a Romney vice-presidential pick is made on the bus tour, but it's also possible that it is designed to create buzz and excitement around the campaign and a VP selection is announced after it.

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The short yellow bus tour ? No one is buying anything this lying piece of crap says anymore ! His sugar daddy Mob ties in Vegas and Macau are about to come to an end... as he is about to be indicted !

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#1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 2:51 PM EDT
Comment author avatarBeverly in ChicagoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Undoubtedly, the short yellow bus tour is to distract the attention over his taxes and possible felon (voter fraud) he may have committed.

The tax returns, along with showing just how unethically and unpatriotically clever he's been in sheltering his Rmillions from Uncle Sam and the IRS, will also prove that he resided legally in California when he trundled his rich ass back to MA to cast an illegal vote for Scott Brown.

Mittens: one of the very small number of Americans who actually did commit voter fraud. If I'm not mistaken, the form of fraud he committed in Massachusetts is a felony.

Releasing his tax forms would prove he committed felonious voter fraud.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/28/1114484/-Here-s-why-Romney-will-NEVER-release-his-tax-forms-and-why-we-need-to-keep-hounding-him

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Sure , " MYTH " will get a bump; but the taxes and voter fraud allegations won't go away!!!

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#1.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

That is an insult to every person who rides the short yellow buses to school each day.

Of course, the IQ of the Romney campaign would go up by about 80 points simply by adding one or two special needs students to their roster.

  • 29 votes
#1.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

The veepstakes speculation just got more fuel.

No it hasn't!....No TeaPublican wants to run with Willard, if they value their political career!

  • 23 votes
#1.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

It might come down to who fits under the bus which leaves Copious Christie out of the running. Top of the bus is reserved for a canine hopeful.

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#1.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:06 PM EDT
Comment author avatarWhite Collar AutoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Well sounds like Jay Carney through old Harry Reid under the bus today.

Which is funny since Reid was only acting on orders from the White House.

What a good soldier Reid is.

  • 21 votes
#1.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:10 PM EDT

White Collar Auto

Well sounds like Jay Carney through old Harry Reid under the bus today.

Interesting comment, I am glad to see you faught it threw before posting.

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#1.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:16 PM EDT

Will the VP candidate release his/her taxes?

If so, will they release more than Romney.

:-)

  • 23 votes
#1.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

Today's Mallard Fillmore comic NAILS Barry on his "you didn't build that" comment:

BTW, do any of the lefty liberals see their own hypocrisy and mean spiritedness in making fun of children that ride a "short yellow bus"??

  • 16 votes
#1.8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

Joe - you did not build that business by yourself! I agree, they had lots of help with loans and grants from the SBA - translated from tax dollars from you and me, they had customers who paid for their product - you and me, and they had to hire workers - you and me, if they were to survive. Do you know the average lifespan of a new business in the US? It is unchanged for the past 15 years by the way.

  • 19 votes
#1.9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

Eric,

Will the VP candidate release his/her taxes?

If so, will they release more than Romney.

Exactly right, it must be next to impossible to find another national politician who won't release their tax returns.

  • 15 votes
#1.10 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:47 PM EDT

At this point in which the front runner, top of the ticket, Shyster Romney is so low in the polls, who cares about the VP pick? Not to mention the GOP/TP no longer has a viable platform in the first place...

But absolutely, we know Team Romney is asking for as much as 10 years tax returns in their vetting of VP wannabes. Hey Joe in Albany, what about the hypocrisy in that?

Hahahah, "you people" don't have a leg to stand on.

  • 21 votes
#1.11 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

So Romney and Obama are tied in the polls, but the ever intripid TruePatroit is out with:

Shyster Romney is so low in the polls, who cares about the VP pick? Not to mention the GOP/TP no longer has a viable platform in the first place...

So do tell TruePat - what does this say about the viability of the dems?

Good golly TruePat - you got poor old Obama tied with a 'shyster' who won't release returns and is a member of a non viable party.

But hey TruePat - another insightful post from you. Why to hone in on the important stuff. :)

Oh and how about it TruePat - did you build that business of yours, or did you get help?

Shoot UnionBaby - I sure did not get any SBA loans. From scratch, on shoe string. Now, how about you get going and do likewise, after all Obama says it's super easy, and he ought to know, right?

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#1.12 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

Bev wrote:

"Sure , " MYTH " will get a bump; but the taxes and voter fraud allegations won't go away!!!"

Come on Bev and fellow lefties, let's take the high road on this. I hate hearing Romney called Mittens and Myth almost as much as I hate hearing Hussein and Obammy.

To the point though. Governor Romney may get a slight bump in the polls when he names his VP. However, the first question his choice will face is this: Do you think Mr. Romney should clear up the question about potential tax problems by releasing his tax returns?

This question is not going to go away and Romney's stonewalling is only going to turn genuinely uncommitted voters against him. He knows he is losing on this issue, but he knows damned good and well that the information in his returns - however legitimate - is not going to set well with voters. He is now cornered like a ______________. You fill in the blank.

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#1.13 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

Spanker,

So Romney and Obama are tied in the polls

Nope, and the trend doesn't look good either...take a look at the electoral map, even worse for Rmoney, I hope you can count to 270 cause Obama already there...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

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#1.14 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

Joe in Albany-1902257

BTW, do any of the lefty liberals see their own hypocrisy and mean spiritedness in making fun of children that ride a "short yellow bus"??

Joe, I am going to say its willful ignorance.

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#1.15 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

David - I second your motion for civility! We'll never sway opinion with insults.

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#1.16 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

I hope you can count to 270 cause Obama already there...

Wow, did they already hold the elections?

How about you WTC, since Obama is such a lock have you gone to Vegas and put your money where your mouth is?

Hell bet the farm. Ought to be easy money, since he has already won

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#1.17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

Hahaha...listen to the libbie drivel. Felonies...not paying taxes...LOL

You people have nothing...nada...get it? And when barry gets his arse stomped in about 3 months, will you please STFU, already?!

  • 12 votes
#1.18 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

This discussion is pointless. Romney's not going to get elected anyway. He's just running so he can write a book afterward and make more money. He can title it "Going Rogue Nowhere".

The country will be saying "President Obama" until 2016, when we will again get accustomed to saying "President Clinton". It should be fun watching the "cons" (the opposite of "libs") squirm until 2024 or so...

  • 19 votes
#1.19 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

white collar, a fool and his money are soon parted. I wouldnt put my money on either yet

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#1.20 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

McDonnell and Portman. BOTH GREAT PICKS.

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#1.21 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:22 PM EDT

Today's Mallard Fillmore comic NAILS Barry on his "you didn't build that" comment:

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The FR lefty liberal censors deleted my link to the comic twice. My bet is that any link to a conservative comic like Mallard Fillmore is verboten on FR and is automatically deleted. Today's comic is still funny as Hell:

Panel one: Barry says "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody helped with roads and bridges, using government money, which comes from... uh..."

Panel two: "....leprechauns, as everyone who is not an evil capitalist knows...."

BARRY GOT NAILED!!!!

  • 10 votes
#1.22 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

DG-W...

President Clinton again??? Are you kidding ???

Barry will spend his next term preparing Michelle to run !!!!

In every libbies dreams that is.

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#1.23 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

deleted? you mean this is the al jezeera arm of the DNC? or Pravada? pick one.

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#1.24 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

Gosh WCA - it's almost like these silly ducks never heard of the Carter v Reagan election cycle.

Why I just bet they could tell us where Carter was in the polls in Aug. and Sept of 1980.

Funny part is, it will come a shock, and be totally 'unexpected' when Obama gets run.

too funny.

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#1.25 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

spanky, lets just hope so. only poll that counts is Nov. Then we'll know the fate of the nation. as you state, it may be unexpected to those with the crystal ball though.

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#1.26 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

@ David Walker.

There's nothing for Romney to gain by releasing additional tax returns. The left which just villify Romney for his success and twist his returns to fit their false narrative that Obama understands the majority of Americans more than Romney, because well, Romney's rich.

Does anyone think the IRS wouldn't be all over Romney if he owes taxes? I believe the left are hanging themselves with this issue, America is smarter than the left gives them credit for. These "Tax Returners" are no better validated than the fringe "Birthers", eventhough the left will fail to realize and acknowledge their hypocrisy.

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#1.27 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

Obama is a war criminal and he should be impeached.

Obama has:

Signed the NDAA bill into law allowing the assassination of any us citizen without trial (yes, I know it's been around for a long time but Obama signed it into law even though it's unconstitutional)

Allowed 30,000 Spy drones to be flown over America (unconstitutional also).

Obama has killed hundreds of innocent people (including 3 Americans) with drone strikes he has ordered in Pakistan And Yemen.

Obama has raised the National debt Nearly $5 TRILLION.

Obama has allowed almost 1 Million ILLEGAL aliens to become legal citizens (thanks to those he allowed to become citizens, they have committed 19 murders and 142 sex crimes)

Lied About all of His 2008 Campaign Promises Including the One Where He said he campaigned in 57 states.

Google Search "Dreams from my REAL father" and you'll see, Obama's father was a failed communist who's dream was to DESTROY America, at age 18, Obama went to a MARXIST school.

  • 10 votes
#1.28 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

Great Job America...

Obama's true colors are slowly coming out. When they take away his teleprompter, he really lets his tongue trip him up. That's because what he says when he is without his prompter is his true beliefs. And as his true beliefs become known, he is being slowly rejected by mainstream America.

Obama is One and Done!

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#1.29 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

and twist his returns to fit their false narrative that Obama understands the majority of Americans more than Romney,

That is rich, as they say. Romney pulls down $57k per day, pays no taxes, and the non-wealthy classes are suppose to believe Romney understands the struggle of the non-wealthy. Sounds like the Red Diaper Doper Baby ought to change the moniker to Wealthy Brown Nosing Diaper Changer.

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#1.30 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

YES America is smarter and it WILL be OBAMA 2012.

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#1.31 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

Spanky,

You're changing the narrative to fit your expectations.

1980 polling techniques, and number of polls, has nothing in common with 2012 other than the word 'poll'. As science and methodology improve, so do poll accuracies.

FYI - 1976 had Ford up 60-40.

I imagine state-level polls are the only ones to carry much water when all is said and done. If you can call a state, you can call electoral votes.

If Romney loses the 'toss-ups' 52/48, loses the blue states 55/45, and wins the red states 100/0...then nationally, he'd be +10.

And still lose the electoral college by a big margin.

  • 10 votes
#1.32 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

read his book cantakenomore if you want his true beliefs. I dont understand, he penned it and is not accountable in the media for what he has said.

Romney doesnt pay income tax, he has no income from a job. Red I am not a tax person but i can understand the fundamentals. how bout you give it a try instead of a hang up on Puritans and quakers.

  • 4 votes
#1.33 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

Oh my they brought out the mental midgets from the right today didn't they.

How many people do you think will crowd Romney's bus tour - 4, maybe 5? And, how many of the VP potential candidates are trying to duck the nomination? All?

This is by far the lamest candidate in the history of our country yet the far right are salivating after him. How sad they are so easily distracted by shiny objects with no real value.

Obama/Biden 2012

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#1.34 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

JOE IN ALBANY you continue making false statements just like your candidate.. I ask if you remember the ad that romney did with people who BUILT their own business.. it was interesting to hear each oof them lie as you do.. truth is, amongst those 8 or 9 pepole the gov't gave the well over 2million dollars to get started or in contracts.. so let us not make this a renewed chant.. you must please get the facts thank you

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#1.35 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

We the corporations? -- I thought I smelled something Stinky (I have that troll on ignore). David, etc. -- Agreed about civility, but if there's anything a bully hates is getting hit back (or ignored). And Sweet Jebbus the *swoop and poop* posts by low-information rightwingers is pathetic.

Nancy's Red Diaper Doper Baby, for example, and the rightwing false equivalency that's never ending -- Do you really think there is any comparison between the president having to prove citizenship to be in the state legislature and Senate before he ran for POTUS, and Justice Roberts swearing him in without proof of citizenship, and releasing not only a short-form but also long-form birth certificates...

Versus

Romney who refuses to do the most basic thing that ALL candidates do, and release 8 or more years of tax returns? Romney who's horrible track record going back to his run for the Senate and refusing to release ANY returns, and also refusing to release ANY returns to run for governor, and on top of it all being caught in a lie about filing taxes in Massachusetts versus UTAH

You think there is any comparison? Really, seriously?

The IRS is short-staffed so can only randomly audit returns. And when returns are so complex as Romney's, they can still miss things in an audit. But this are not the real issue. I'm not claiming that Romney committed a felony (even lying about living in his son's basement, which would be a felony), rather that just because something isn't illegal it doesn't mean: 1) that it shouldn't be illegal; 2) it isn't unethical or unAmerican; or 3) that lying to cover up something isn't just as bad if not worse than the original offense.

No matter how much rightwingers try to deflect (along with Romney), this lack of transparency ain't gonna fly and it's going to be the focus right up to November -- assuming he isn't tossed out at the convention.

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#1.36 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

True Patriot, its funny you mention a lack of transparency but you also believe this is the most transparent admin ever huh? and speaking of deflecting, when do you think Obama will address the economy with is laser focus? but let me guess, you being an IRS agent if he released his taxes, youd be able to scrutinize and find the potential illegal doings? You're reaching TruePatriot and thats fine, whatever makes it numb reality. Now lets talk about that pesky economy

  • 4 votes
#1.37 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

Great Job America!--And just how many THOUSANDS did G DUBYA kill in Iraq AND Afghanistan, all over oil and his faked war on terrorism? And if Romney gets in, which i SERIOUSLY doubt, how many will die when he gets us into the next one. Even though HE wasn't man enough to actually fight in one himself, he had to save those heathen French. Obama's done more for this country than G DUBYA and his old man combined. And you actually think "what he meant to say" Romney has a chance? Good luck with that.

  • 5 votes
#1.38 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

Ceasar...

Funny, isn't it...yet when they talk about the economy, it's always the "do nothing, republicans...or the party of "no". They fail to remember the last two years of GW's presidency, they had the congress...oh, and let's not forget the 1st two years of Barry's. hell, they had a filibuster-proof congress yet they couldn't pass a budget.

How soon we forget, eh? LOL!

ABO 2012!

  • 2 votes
#1.39 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

i'd be funny if it werent funny. sad part is, toilet bound is our nation. downgrade, poor economy, high unemployment but lets focus on tax returns, dogs and horses. Thats the ticket.

  • 4 votes
#1.40 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

Ohio BOB - Let me give you a little hint. Obama is not running against GWB. In fact GWB can't run ever again... how about stopping the comparisons because they are worthless. It's like looking at steam... you can see through it and there's nothing worth getting worked up over.

I love the way you offhandedly slam Obama... Tell me what war Obama served in... if you are going to say something about one candidate serving, you need to back it up with the fact that the other served. Actually while Mitt was off doing his thing, Obama was skipping school, drinking and doing illegal drugs.. Personally I'd much rather a man working for moral causes than a druggie as president. I know liberals don't have any moral equivalency, they want morals to be taken out of the picture... Thank goodness we all aren't liberals.

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#1.41 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

Brianb...

exactly...Obama's own words. What was it he said...? He had a hard time remembering his last year of HS and his first couple of college? And this was due to what? Come on left...in unison..."drinking and a lot of illegal drugs".

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#1.42 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:47 PM EDT

Say Spanky do you consider yourself to be a pretty smart guy? You are a businessman right. Do you know how much as a percentage you paid in taxes? If you did not know off the top of your head (which I suspect you do) how long would it take for you to get that info. Then how little sense does it make that a so called financial wizard and powerhouse of businessman like Romney continue to claim he does not know what his tax percentage was, and seems either just unable or unwilling to produce that info. Would you as a lawyer be able to represent a client that was not truthful with you, and was unwilling to gave you the honest information about his income, assets and past tax liability? I am guessing the answer to that for several reasons including ethical ones among others is no. So if you would not even be able to represent Romney as a client due to ethical reasons, how in the world can you justify supporting him for the highest office in the land. I would really like to know how that works, he is to risky and deceitful to be a client, but a great choice for president. Set me straight on this Spanky. Romney refuses to release or discuss his taxes, he is basically "taking the fifth" on this subject, what is it again that you have always said about people who take the fifth? So how is it that Romney gets a pass from you.

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#1.43 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:12 PM EDT

Obama was a child during the Vietnam War and an adult before the Gulf, Iraq and Afghanistan wars. There is also the fact that our military today is strictly a volunteer force. George Bush did serve but as a reservist. The president is not a druggie any more than thousands of Americans who might have tried to smoke or do a drug during their high school or early college years. How does Mitt Romney explain his strange behavior - the police and other uniforms, the bullying, cutting hair etc.? Mitt Romney was more of a draft dodger than any of the above mentioned candidates/presidents, etc. He supported the war in Vietnam but sought multiple exemptions to fulfill his Mormon religious obligations, not even in the United States, but France - guess that was more important than fighting for his country.

  • 3 votes
#1.44 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

Forrest, how did you justify supporting a man who's only remote work ethic came from community organizing what ever that is? Think about who this man has surrounded himself with, look at his book. Gets a free pass from you because of his political affiliation im sure

Mg how old was Obama in 91? I believe that was the first gulf war. but who says you have only serve in war time? What about Bill Clinton. You libs need to stop casting stones from your glass shacks.

  • 3 votes
#1.45 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

...the bullying...the cutting of hair...LOL!!!! BWAHAHAHA!!!!

OMG, you libbies are reaching for the moon! HAHAHAHA

How could you write that with a straight keyboard??

  • 4 votes
#1.46 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

Well Caesar it was real easy for me to support Obama , I had just experienced 8 years of Bush, (that went about as as bad as it could for the US) and then my choice was McCain/Palin. The guy that said right before the near collapse of our entire financial system, and after losing over 500,000 jobs a month for the last two years of Bush's presidency, that the economy was fundamentally sound, and the complete idiot Palin that could not answer a simple question of what newspapers do you read that he picked to be heartbeat away from the Oval Office. I had no question of a mans work ethic who was abandoned by his father and raised by a single mother and his grandparents, who had already been editor of the Harvard Law Review, and then was elected to the state and then the federal senate, it was obvious to me that everything he attained including the books he wrote, was only gained by hard work on his part. I would think it would be a little embarrassing of you to bring up the issue of work ethic, considering the what the republican controlled house has produced for this country since 2010. Obama was a clear and easy choice for me, and now when compared to Romney, he still is.

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#1.47 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

Hey forrest, have you looked at reality lately, i would say Bush was paradise compared to the squalor of admin we have now. Nope bush sucked much like the clown we have now, 12 years of this crap. My opinion is Romney will win cause he aint Obama. A no name beat Hillary. How, where was that backing. Im sorry you believe Obamas work ethic is superior to Romneys, getting high and boozin it up. Hardly work is a better choice of words. He has such a shady cloudy past. yet you worry about dogs and horses and tax returns.

  • 2 votes
#1.48 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:50 PM EDT

I have never mentioned his dogs, or his horses, not in one single post ever, just his refusal to show his taxes, so please don't question my grasp on reality. The situation is vastly improved since Obama took over, I lost $480,000 of my retirement funds under Bush, gained it all back and then some inside of 18 months of Obama's presidency. We went from losing jobs by the hundreds of thousands per month to at least gaining jobs each and every month since he took over. There is no indication that Romney will win just because he is not Obama, he is losing all the important swings states presently, and he cannot assemble the electoral votes needed to win without them. Actually it indicates quite the opposite, that if he wants to win he should be more like Obama, the anti Obama thing just isn't getting it done for him, maybe he should try his hand at some community organizing, that seems to work.

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#1.49 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

Forrest... You confuse Palin with Tina Fey....

Good thing your money was not invested in GM bonds or Chrysler or your 480 would not buy lunch.

Would you mind sharing with us just what it was that Obama did that made your 480 back? Seems like a person of your worth would not give a flip about what someone else 's taxes might look like.

  • 3 votes
#1.50 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

No I don't confuse Palin with Tina Fey, Tina Fey is a brilliant women, Palin said what she said, Tina Fey did not put those words in her mouth, even when she mocks Palin on SNL she doesn't have to write a script, she basically just repeats Palins own actual statements. That $480,000 was half of my retirement account under Bush my 401K turned into a 201K as the market crashed do to a near financial meltdown of our system, Obama did what had to be done to stabilize the economy he started before he was even elected as Bush hid for the last 30 days of his presidency. I have worked and saved for well over 30 years to build my retirement fund which is now just over cool million, and my wife has always been a stay at home housewife so we made due on my single income. For a guy that is supposed to be so bad for business the stock market has sure been healthy since Obama was elected. Why is it fair that Romney pays half the tax rate that a working man like myself pays. In the end it is more about what the electorate thinks of Romney's "taking the fifth" on his taxes, I'll tell you one thing if there was anything there that would help his election campaign he would have gladly released them a long time ago, so the bigger question is what is there that Romney thinks I might not like. His is taking a beating politically by not releasing them, so I feel he must think that releasing them would be even more politically damaging to him.

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#1.51 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:43 AM EDT

Let me add to my post above that financial experts say that the average baby boomer will need $900,000 to live comfortably after they retire with the current life expectancy, so I am not as well off as you might think Old Fat Guy, I am just about on par with what the financial gurus suggest. I have no idea how many young people will ever be able to do what I have done with the pitiful level of wages and benefits now being paid in many parts of this nation.The median income in Texas is $11.20 an hour, I don't know anybody could raise a family and educate their kids on that, much less save a dime for their old age.

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#1.52 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 12:55 AM EDT

Forrest...

Everything will be ok once we elect a President that believes in America and the American way.

You have not answered the question however: What was it that Obama did that essentially gave you you a bit over a double?

    #1.53 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 11:08 AM EDT
    Reply

    You know elliot: I realize that "teabaggers" aren't the brightest crayons in the box, but this is really getting old. You do know why, (other than a personal attack against another poster, in violation of the COH) this is NOT a good analogy for what is going on nationally, don't you?

    Assignment: Essay on logic; why this doesn't apply and make you look the fool.

    Double spaced, spelling and neatness count.

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    #3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 2:56 PM EDT

    Did someone say that Romney would release his taxes during the bus tour?

    Oh....sorry.....I was dreaming.......

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    #3.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

    Did someone say that Obama would release his college transcripts?

    Oh...I must of been dreaming too.

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    #3.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

    Since when are college transcripts required to be released by any Presidential candidate?

    Oh, it's a deflection. I get it now.

    Guess when you have nothing, you deflect away from the problems.

    • 22 votes
    #3.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

    NYMike - it's all the far right has. Now it's college transcripts - because anyone who graduated from Harvard and headed Harvard Law Review is clearly not very smart! You can tell the far right is desperate to deflect from the sorry excuse for a human being they are running!

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 18 votes
    #3.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

    The rightwing false equivalency that's never ending -- Do voters really think there is any comparison between the president having to prove citizenship to be in the state legislature and Senate before he ran for POTUS, and Justice Roberts swearing him in without proof of citizenship, and releasing not only a short-form but also long-form birth certificates though this has never been a requirement...

    Versus

    Romney who refuses to do the most basic thing that ALL candidates do, and release 8 or more years of tax returns? Romney who's horrible track record going back to his run for the Senate and refusing to release ANY returns, and also refusing to release ANY returns to run for governor, and on top of it all being caught in a lie about filing taxes in Massachusetts versus Utah...

    Rightwingers think there is any comparison? Really, seriously?

    The IRS is short-staffed so can only randomly audit returns. And when returns are so complex as Romney's, they can still miss things in an audit. But these are not the real issue. I'm not claiming that Romney committed a felony (even lying about living in his son's basement, which would be a felony), rather that just because something isn't illegal it doesn't mean: 1) that it shouldn't be illegal; 2) it isn't unethical or unAmerican; or 3) that lying to cover up something isn't just as bad if not worse than the original offense.

    No matter how much rightwingers try to deflect (along with Romney), this lack of transparency ain't gonna fly and it's going to be the focus right up to November -- assuming he isn't tossed out at the convention.

    NYMike -- Nancy is a troll who *swoops and poops* in hopes of collapsing sections of this forum and suppressing free speech and facts she doesn't like.

    She not only made the false equivalency I address above, but the college transcript crap is also beyond the pale. Not only are college records protected against release for ALL candidates, but it is moot because being elected to be president of the Harvard Law Review is a blind selection process (the name, race, etc. is not known), and since the president graduated magna cum laude (which means at the top of his class with REALLY good grades), these rightwingers only prove how ignorant they are.

    • 14 votes
    #3.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

    Since when are college transcripts required to be released by any Presidential candidate?

    Since when are Tax returns required to be released by any Presidential candidate?

    For the record, they are not. Individual income tax returns — including those of public figures — are private information, protected by law from unauthorized disclosure. Indeed, the Internal Revenue Service is barred from releasing any taxpayer information whatsoever, except to authorized agencies and individuals. Like all other citizens, U.S. presidents enjoy this protection of their privacy. Since the early 1970s, however, most presidents have chosen to release their returns publicly.

    • 6 votes
    #3.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

    So Mittens excuse is....

    And by the way, he is running on what a neato businessman he is. Let him prove it.

    • 15 votes
    #3.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

    Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Eric Holder, Rahm, and a bunch of celebrities-that makes them qualified for ???????

    • 2 votes
    #3.8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

    Do you want to know what I find so insidious about the way that repubs claim:

    "Obama wants to talk about anything but the economy"!!

    What I find insidious and ridiculous is: IT IS A REPUBLICAN ECONOMY!!

    This mess started under George W. Bush for any repub with the stones to admit it. Obama did not CAUSE the current economy. He is just in charge of fixing it. Republicans are running AGAINST THEIR OWN ECONOMY!!!

    That is how absurd this thing gets.

    • 10 votes
    #3.10 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:02 PM EDT

    MJV in Wisconsin -- Precedence is important to any law, so if rightwingers want to pass an amendment requiring proof of citizenship, then let's have at it and pass an amendment that a minimum 10 years of full tax returns be required to run for president.

    Let's say Romney was nominated for a cabinet position (e.g., the Dept. of the Treasury, egad), he would NOT be approved by Congress, especially with his refusal to release his tax returns. If Romney couldn't even be approved for a cabinet position, then how the heck does he (or you and other rightwingers) think for a moment that he should become POTUS, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world "for Pete's sake?!"

    • 7 votes
    #3.11 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

    More for the liberals to ignore about Obama...

    AP - WASHINGTON D.C. NEW RELEASED TODAY AUG 6th 2012

    In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has Released copies of President

    Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College ... Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.

    This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama's legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, "Obama Eligibility Questioned," leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama's first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama's legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio's case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama's citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

    • 1 vote
    #3.12 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:13 PM EDT

    Jumped right over the shark this time, didn't you brianb?

    • 7 votes
    #3.13 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

    Give it up rightwingers. Romney surely knew his ugly past would come back to haunt him, and yet he is still arrogant -- and unprepared.

    Brianb-999431 -- The reason we ignore that BS is because you're posting a claim found to be false. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories,

    It's a hoax, an urban legend, and cannot be found from any credible source. I'm reporting your post as inflammatory. Enough!

    • 7 votes
    #3.14 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:42 PM EDT

    I didn't write the story. The Associated Press wrote it... That's the reason I highlighted the AP, so liberals would know the source. I can guarantee this story won't come up on First Read...

    Snopes is owned and operated by George Soros... they have so many falses on Obama stories it's incredible... Snopes is unreliable... to sane people... so that gives the go ahead for liberals to believe whatever they like.

    • 1 vote
    #3.15 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:53 PM EDT

    Brian B,

    I have read your posts for over a year.

    I never thought you would be one of those conspiracy guys.

    It is sad.

    Your conservative views could be presented in a personal compelling way rather than go down the trail of crazy pseudo facts.

    • 6 votes
    #3.16 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:56 PM EDT

    brianb: You are embarrassing yourself. Google the story, and find out how many reputable sites debunk it. Then step away from the computer and learn what a REAL citation looks like.

    • 8 votes
    #3.17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:14 PM EDT

    brianb: You are embarrassing yourself.

    Impossible!

    The little guy lives to make an assh*le out of himself for the entire WORLD to view... ;o)

    • 7 votes
    #3.18 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

    Geez Brianb, whats up with that goofy post, that story was debunked in April of 2009, it was never run as a story in the AP, the supreme court refused to hear Donofrio's case and all others concerning Obama's citizenship, he never had a Fulbright scholarship, much less one for foreign students, and there is no record anywhere or statements by anybody who has ever known Obama that he ever used the name Soetoro.

    Now I am worried that you might get one of those e-mails scams from a "Ugandan Prince" and might actually send them money.

    • 5 votes
    #3.19 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:38 PM EDT

    Right, Forrest? Wonder how much money brianb has sent off?

    • 1 vote
    #3.20 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:49 PM EDT

    The thing is Newday, that is not even a new one, that particular birther hoax email is three years old.

    I think the realization that Romney really is the republican candidate and that he is very likely to lose the election, is really upsetting some republicans.

    • 3 votes
    #3.21 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

    That must be it, Forrest. Only reasonable explanation.

    • 2 votes
    #3.22 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 10:41 PM EDT

    TruePatriot-445959

    Precedence is important to any law, so if rightwingers want to pass an amendment requiring proof of citizenship, then let's have at it and pass an amendment that a minimum 10 years of full tax returns be required to run for president.

    Proof of citizenship is a requirement of being POTUS, proof of what taxes you pay is not. The difference between you and I is that I wouldn't have a problem with having to supply tax information (and proof of citizenship) , if it was law. It is not law, therefor it is requested, not required, just like the request to President Obama to supply his birth certificate, it was a request, not a requirement.

    Let's say Romney was nominated for a cabinet position (e.g., the Dept. of the Treasury, egad), he would NOT be approved by Congress, especially with his refusal to release his tax returns.

    Again, his choice, if he was nominated for a cabinet position, and knew not supplying his tax returns (or other information) would jeopordize his getting the position, then it would be his choice to supply or not supply the information, and he would have to live with the repurcussions of that choice.

    If Romney couldn't even be approved for a cabinet position, then how the heck does he (or you and other rightwingers) think for a moment that he should become POTUS, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world "for Pete's sake?!"

    If he wins the election, then he should become POTUS, as long as he supplied the necessary information REQUIRED by law.

      #3.23 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:28 AM EDT
      Reply

      I would suggest Jon Lovitz, as his running mate, yeah that's it! Jon Lovitz, that's the ticket, yeah.

      • 21 votes
      #4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

      And his soon to be wife, Morgan Fairchild as the 2nd lady to be ?

      • 13 votes
      #4.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:04 PM EDT

      Ha, exactly!

      He is the only guy I can think of that can speak on Mitts behalf with a straight face.

      • 19 votes
      #4.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

      Pathological liars on SNL aside (good one, dirp!), there's just one slight problem with that scenario - Morgan Fairchild is actually an avowed Democrat. Though coincidentally enough, my only encounter with her was on a political bus tour back in 2008 when I was working at the local Obama campaign office. The higher-ups at the office kept trying to get us to put in more and more hours on the phones and canvassing one Saturday with the promise that "a whole bus load of celebrites" was making a tour of various offices in PA that day and would be stopping by to thank us personally. Rumors flew all day. And by the time the bus finally got there after dark, imagine the reaction when "Morgan Freeman" turned out to be "Morgan Fairchild" instead (the rest of the "bus load" was Ed Rendell). In her defense, she was pretty knowledgeable and well-spoken, and looked pretty good for her age. The 17-year-old kid standing next to me was so starstruck, I thought he was going to faint. Of course, he'd already almost fainted over Joe Sestak, too. Ah, to be young and impressionable again.....

      • 15 votes
      #4.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

      Was the bus stopping at Krispy Kreme......if so....it's got to be Christie.......

      • 16 votes
      #4.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

      I will tell them I don't have to show my taxes because I am a wealthy job creator, yeah that's it, a job creator, that's the ticket, a job creator, yeah.

      • 21 votes
      #4.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:52 PM EDT

      I will tell them my liberal health care plan sucks because I am a severe conservative. Yeah that's it, I am a severe conservative, that's the the ticket, severe conservative yeah.

      • 14 votes
      #4.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

      I will file from a state I don't live in, I will tell them I was living in my sons basement, yeah that's the ticket, I was living in my sons basement, yeah.

      • 15 votes
      #4.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

      It's a hell of a lot funnier when Jon Lovitz does this act, than when Romney does it.

      • 16 votes
      #4.8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

      Mitt had the whole basement to himself.

      • 9 votes
      #4.9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

      Yep- Forrest is an idiot! Obama had NO experience and no we all have bad experiences.

      • 1 vote
      #4.10 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

      PatriotJane.........We are standing on the sidewalk...we are NOT on your lawn!

      • 4 votes
      #4.11 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

      Well then Jane I guess even an idiot like me can see that Mitt Romney is a big phony liar. Yep.

      BTW the only experience Romney has had in government was as a one term governor and he will lose that state by double digit, they don't seem to think he should be the president. Yep.

      • 5 votes
      #4.12 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:25 PM EDT

      hey forrest how much governance did obama have prior to 08? How much business experience? I cant wait to hear the excuse er explanation

      • 1 vote
      #4.13 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:34 PM EDT

      He was a state senator, and then a federal senator, Caesar. I can tell you this, the country obviously felt he was eminently more qualified than McCain and Palin because he was elected by the American people over that ticket in an electoral landslide. Evidently the American people are not that impressed with one term governor Mitt Romney's experience or resume because Obama now leads him in every national poll including Rasmussen, and when you look at the individual swing states Obama is opening up big leads there. It will be mighty tough for Romney to gain the electoral votes he needs to defeat Obama, with three months to go Romney is losing momentum not gaining it. He can't just keep changing his mind, he has to change a lot of people's minds. Republicans have been hammering on Obama for 3 years and seven months, but it seems as if once again they will be defeated by a "community organizer" because they ran a candidate that the electorate likes less, and trusts less than Obama.

      • 5 votes
      #4.14 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:23 PM EDT

      Rod_Father

      Mitt had the whole basement to himself.

      Since it was an unfinished basement, perhaps he was using a bucket for the loo?

      Forrest Grump 2.0

      He can't just keep changing his mind, he has to change a lot of people's minds.

      The Jon Lovitz was great. Also, during this time of global crisis, people don't want to change horses mid-stream -- especially to a dressage horse for show.

      • 5 votes
      #4.15 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

      sure forrest I'll give you he wasnt bush thats why he got it. Polls dont matter until November Forrest, i could care less what numbers are fudged. He was a state senator and Junior and i mean Junior Fed senator. yet Romney has no experience. you guys crack me up.

        #4.16 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:04 PM EDT

        Well you keep wanting to point out Obama's lack of experience but Romney does not have any more experience than Obama had in government when he was elected. The point is that experience is a losing issue now for Romney, because Obama has four years experience as the POTUS so the whole Obama has no experience issue is silly for republicans to bring up at this point. On the issue of polls some are more reliable than others, but there is not one single poll as of today that does not have Obama leading, are you telling me that the numbers of every national poll taken are fudged in Obama's favor, even Fox News and Rasmussen have him leading. Why Fox News is fair and balanced! They would not fudge poll numbers.

        • 4 votes
        #4.17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:37 PM EDT
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        ContemptMeDeleted

        Elliot...I get the point you are trying to make but that is a disgusting, over the top way to do it. I don't care whether you agree or disagree with someone (and a certain redhead and I certainly disagree plenty) a personal attack like that is completely unwarranted. That is NOT a subject to joke about!

        • 22 votes
        #6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

        Disturbing, right Frank? Can you believe there are people out there that think that is an okay thing to post?

        • 18 votes
        #6.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:05 PM EDT

        We often disagree with regards to politics Frank, but I have always a great deal of respect for you as a person, who has posted here on FR for at least several years.

        • 16 votes
        #6.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:07 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarelliot-3020456Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        We need to hear the truth from Reid about this recent development. Until he shows proof that he's not a pedophile we will never know for sure.

        • 9 votes
        #6.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

        Me too, Forrest.

        Where is your logic essay, elliot? What you posted says way yonder more about you than you know. And what it says is not good.

        • 14 votes
        #6.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

        you know Frank, i think you would have more credibility if you your support against disparaging remarks wasnt limited to the opposite view. You have no problems with people like Feisty and Mickey and Torpedo You call people pvssies but you have a problem with Elliots statement. So Frank, please dont come off with faux outrage, it doesnt fit libbies very well. You guys have played the victim card to the max.

        • 8 votes
        #6.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

        Caesar...first off, I'm not a "libby". Ask anyone who has posted here for a long time! And I have had my share of calling out liberals for unwarranted attacks (remember Eric from Salinas anyone?). I am a conservative, but above all, I am the father of 2 young kids and I don't find joking about this subject funny at all.

        • 22 votes
        #6.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:13 PM EDT

        Can you believe there are people out there that think that is an okay thing to post?

        I consider the 'source(s)'...

        PS: Someone please pass Caesar some cheese to accompany his whine...

        He of ALL people has some nerve talking about disparaging remarks... just take a look at what he has had to say so far today...

        How do YOU spell hypocrite?

        • 20 votes
        #6.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:14 PM EDT

        Elliot Try to be an adult, that is over the top and not funny.

        • 15 votes
        #6.8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:20 PM EDT

        How do YOU spell hypocrite?

        this is how. Feisty Redhead Roselle, Il

        Frank, as i said you have a credibility issue, i dont care if you posted here 20 years. If youre not up to task to call out both sides then dont do it all. See Newdays 'Teabagger' comment. As i say Frank, oh irony.

        Fisty, Im not telling anyone they cant make those remarks, you see as long as the fringe left in here continue to post hate filled vile, so will I. It's a two way street. By the way, I would like port whine. goes good with crackers.

        • 11 votes
        #6.9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:21 PM EDT

        Frank is a conservative, and one of the few left that show any sense or commitment to this country. He has called out both sides of the aisle, as I have, for over the top attacks.

        If the people who posture today as conservatives were like Frank, they might get some respect.

        • 22 votes
        #6.10 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:23 PM EDT

        I will vouch for the fact that Frank is not liberal, and he has always called out posters who have crossed his line of decency on both sides.

        • 20 votes
        #6.11 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:24 PM EDT

        If it is true that he has not payed taxes for 10 years, why is Obama waiting for? let's get the IRS involved. Maybe Obama is waiting to get closer to November to have Romney arrested and no time to get another GOP Nomination.

        Oh! what Fantasies do the LIBS live on.

        • 11 votes
        #6.12 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

        Really, Caesar Augustus? Just giving those poor folks the respect of the name they picked for themselves. Why would you object to that? You can't use Tea Party with regard to those folks, that name belongs to the heroes at Boston Harbor. One of whom, was a relative of mine. And Ol' John of Ireland would not take kindly to the "teabaggers"

        Now. Show respect to your betters.

        • 15 votes
        #6.13 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

        Like I said a bit ago, "If Willard was clean, he would release his taxes and get a 10 point bump in the polls. With such logic, Willard is dumb or dirty."

        • 16 votes
        #6.14 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

        Thank you, Grimey, for speaking up. As Forrest said, we may not always agree but I respect you and always find your posts interesting and thoughtful.

        Grimey is not a democrat, he's a republican but unlike many GOP legislators who by their silence condone the comments of the piers, Frank isn't afraid to call out those who cross the line regardless of who crosses it. I respect that.

        • 18 votes
        #6.15 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:38 PM EDT

        Your comment really deserves no reply elliot, but if it was a long standing tradition that candidates allow their basements to viewed by the electorate then I would expect Reid to show them his basement. Romney is breaking a long standing tradition of releasing personal financial info that the American electorate has come to expect of their candidates. This is not political murder on the part of Reid, it is political suicide solely of Romney's own choosing. I'll say it again, it is particularly damaging to Romney because he is billing himself as the great businessman, but can't or won't divulge his own personal business dealings. He claims to know how to restructure the nations taxes, but will not divulge his own taxes. He claims to know how to invest in America but will not divulge his own investments. It's real phony Elliot, real phony, and even republicans know that if there was anything there that would help his campaign he would have released them long ago.

        • 20 votes
        #6.16 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

        Caesar-

        Frank, as i said you have a credibility issue, i dont care if you posted here 20 years. If youre not up to task to call out both sides then dont do it all.

        Frank has credibility issue? Maybe with you, but that's about it. Its obvious to anyone who posts here that you don't know what you're talking about. Frank is a well-respected frequent poster, who expresses his opinions and listens to others. He has called out both sides for "crossing the line".

        Who do you think you are to tell anyone what to post? Frank can call out whoever he wants whenever he wants.

        • 13 votes
        #6.17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

        let's get the IRS involved. Maybe Obama is waiting to get closer to November to have Romney arrested and no time to get another GOP Nomination.

        Ugh - here come the Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs crowd and their conspiracy theories. Few liberals suggest Romney is breaking the law by not paying taxes the last 10 years, rather if that is the case, he simply supports and is being supported by a tax code geared 100% favorably towards the wealthy.

        • 16 votes
        #6.18 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:49 PM EDT

        Concern, as usual I will do this V E R Y slowly for you ....

        If it is true that he has not payed taxes for 10 years, why is Obama waiting for? let's get the IRS involved. Maybe Obama is waiting to get closer to November to have Romney arrested and no time to get another GOP Nomination

        The issue is NOT that he has not PAID taxes, the issue is he won't release his tax returns to see how and what WAS paid as well as investments, etc. There is a very big difference between the two. Now ...what to have you do with your "dirty sock ....."

        • 14 votes
        #6.19 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:50 PM EDT

        Caesar,

        I suggest you go to Franks history and read up. Than come bank and hang your head in shame. Frank is very respected here, you need to apologize.

        • 21 votes
        #6.20 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

        Than come bank and hang your head in shame. Frank is very respected here, you need to apologize.

        You just got my vote!

        • 14 votes
        #6.21 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

        Frank is very respected here, you need to apologize.

        Yuppers - I even offered to vote for Frank if he promised to make his political run as an independent.

        • 14 votes
        #6.22 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:56 PM EDT

        thetotas

        I do? I have to go do that? and I have to be shamed for it? I dont need to apologize to him, the proof is above. I dont really care what elliot said, Newday proves my point. Its ok when certain people say things. Im glad he is respected here. Good for him. Im sorry i dont feel the need to feel bad.

        I think elliot made his point and even if tasteless, still made a point.

        • 6 votes
        #6.23 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:57 PM EDT

        Thank You Thetotas, very well said.

        • 13 votes
        #6.24 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

        But your comment, Caesar, is from someone who makes tasteless and vulgar a lifestyle. All we have to do is read some of your posts from today.

        thetotas! Good for you! Bang up job.

        • 13 votes
        #6.25 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:00 PM EDT

        I have to agree with Jody about Frank "Grimey" Grimes, Springfield, USA next is one of her post on and then she jumps to Reddev who is always calling me stupid just find concern on your edit tool and you will find it.

        Spanky...here in South Florida, the housing market is pretty awful. Definitely rivals Las Vegas and California. Thankfully, I like my house and am not moving any time soon.

        And RedDev...what is wrong with the Miami nightclub crowd!?

        The last one was in reference to my sister and the Spanish going nightclub crown.

        As you can see the insults and the put down of those that have a different outlook on politics continue form the extreme left. I forgot to mentioned the other one Layton. What is different about my posts and yours? You are a lefty and I'm an Idependent.

        Layton you read wrong, as per Dirty Harry the issue is that he has NOT PAID TAXES in 10 years.

        Read Harry's comments please.

        • 6 votes
        #6.26 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

        Caesar...

        To me, there is a big difference between the names that get thrown around here on a daily basis (e.g. "Teabagger", "libtard", etc) and the accusation / analogy used by Elliot above. Maybe there isn't a big difference to you...and that's okay...it's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. I don't particularly care for name-calling, but as has been said many times...politics is a contact sport. And if we were calling people out every time a name was used that we didn't like, it would get pretty tedious. But, I most certainly have called out both sides when comments have gone over the top.

        Have a good day!

        (Edited to thank everyone for the kind words above!)

        • 12 votes
        #6.27 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:06 PM EDT

        Which Harry? Where???? On Snap! I forgot Clint Eastwood DID endorse your candidate this weekend! How silly of me to forget! Whoo hooo for the GOP!!! You've got yet another pale and stale in your court!

        • 7 votes
        #6.28 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

        no there isnt a big difference. Libtard is pervesion of retard (as if someone with downsyndrome can help it). Teabagger is a sexually deviant act. Really vile as pedofile in my opinion. I dont see who gets to pick and choose what is taboo. enjoy your day too

        • 3 votes
        #6.29 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

        Layton, you just made my Day. No I'm not going to ask for your apology now. I don't need it.

        • 6 votes
        #6.30 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

        Sorry, Caesar, I will continue to use "teabagger". It is accurate, and what that bunch wanted. I can't help it that they are divorced from the current lexicon.

        That's why it works. This is a group of people so divorced from any sense of reality that they pick a vulgarity for a name.

        Now. Show respect to others that post here.

        • 11 votes
        #6.31 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

        I dont see who gets to pick and choose what is taboo

        Caesar...

        That's really up to each of us. My opinion is simply that...my own opinion...you can take it for what it's worth. (I honestly just picked the 2 derogatory names that I see here most often...no intent to offend).

        • 7 votes
        #6.32 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

        Concern, I'll do your apology one better. I'll put you on ignore and my world will then become a more peaceful place.

        • 7 votes
        #6.33 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

        O, you darn Righties just make me wanna scream sheesha, sheisa or shumthing!! or scratch my balls cuz as a cat I can.

        • 11 votes
        #6.34 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

        No kidding Layton. One can only put up with so much stupidity in one day.

        • 6 votes
        #6.35 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

        Frank, not offended at all..its anon blog. no reason to be upset, ive never seen you call feisty out and it is definitely the king/queen on here of vile/hate filled words, and some of its minions are not far off. That is my point, that is how i see it, that is why i say you have/had no credibility. Sorry im not diggin through comments, i rightly dont care really, just trying to prove my point. speaking of points, see Newday prove mine. and Newday I will use libtard after all that is what you want with your inane drivel and half azzed attempt to justify your behavior.

        • 3 votes
        #6.36 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

        Layton-3733410

        Concern, I'll do your apology one better. I'll put you on ignore and my world will then become a more peaceful place.

        Layyton, I thank you for the bottom of my heart, honey! Ignoring the Truth is what you do best.

        newdayDAWNING...RETURNED once a horse now you are a dog. The usual crowd claiming supremacy.

        • 6 votes
        #6.37 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

        Caesar:

        I don't generally read what you post, so I care very little what you say. I have read enough to know that you will eventually be banned from posting on NBC sites.

        So I don't really care WHAT you do.

        • 8 votes
        #6.38 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

        Truth is, I'm not on a "brake" sunshine ... better scurry back to your porch before your boss finds out you're trying to run with with the big dogs.

        • 10 votes
        #6.39 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

        HA!

        • 6 votes
        #6.40 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

        Kaiser Disgustus declares this a game of points! Who will he point to next to anoint his point with points? Time to fall on your sword Disgustus.

        • 8 votes
        #6.41 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

        banned? for what? I mean if Feisty et al can do it, why can't i? Perhaps your right, I dont have an 'in' with a 'journalist' on here. i cant make clandestine meetings, suggesting how to remove certain posters. thats fine if i get banned, it proves the coh is only for certain individuals. so complain away. it will only further prove my point

        • 3 votes
        #6.42 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

        I have read enough to know that you will eventually be banned from posting on NBC sites.

        He already has been at least once...

        You can smell the re-regs from a mile away... right safecracker?

        Only a matter of time! ;o)

        better scurry back to your porch before your boss finds out you're trying to run with with the big dogs.

        LMAO!

        • 8 votes
        #6.43 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

        Teabagger is a sexually deviant act

        My, but the Puritan "missionary style" crowd are out in force today. Since when did consensual sex acts become deviant? I admit, I throw up a little when I think about two teabaggers teabagging, but hey, to each his/her own. And don't blame liberals if a conservative group wants to label themselves as the BJ's, Teabaggers, Stylistic Missionaries, or what ever crazy name they want to use.

        • 11 votes
        #6.44 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

        Frank and Newday, Thanks for speaking out against all these personal attacks. We should be working together as a country to solve our problems. We may have different views on how to fix our country but we should all be civil with one another.

        • 7 votes
        #6.45 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

        Like I said a bit ago, "If Willard was clean, he would release his taxes and get a 10 point bump in the polls. With such logic, Willard is dumb or dirty."

        If Romney was dirty we'd know already. Unless you truely believe the IRS is as incompetent as every other Government bureauracracy the left tries to install.

        • 3 votes
        #6.46 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

        nice try feisty, no safecracker or frosty, keep chasing your tail. never been banned here. but go ahead and use your 'influence' with Mark, Feisty. long time reader.

        Reddev, i know your anti religious and thats fine but seriously, the connoctation my man. it has nothing to do with bedroom, it is how it is intended but you knew that right

        • 2 votes
        #6.47 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

        I throw up a little when I think about two teabaggers teabagging

        As do I Red. I feel a team of 6 or 8 adds an aesthetic gymnastic quality that is definitely lacking in a pairs routine.

        • 8 votes
        #6.48 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

        HI! lisa s! Long time since I chatted with you. Hope things are well with you.

        • 3 votes
        #6.49 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

        Layton - I see Concern is still going to vote for that dirty old sock - let her do it. My guess it she really will - she's soooooo up to date with issues!

        Trust me - the big dogs wouldn't run with her even if they were desperate!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 6 votes
        #6.50 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

        Hi Newday, Things are great here. I have missed chatting with you. Hope all is well with you.

        • 5 votes
        #6.51 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

        Reddev who is always calling me stupid

        I think the only one calling you outright stupid is, well, you. I rarely call anyone stupid. I have been known to use the term idiotic, but that is typically reserved for one poster. So, while you run around calling out "victim, victim", remember you lit yourself on fire.

        • 8 votes
        #6.52 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

        Do teabaggers at the height of sexual frenzy yell "the English are coming, the English are coming"? Just asking. Caesar Augustus? You were considered to be wise in your day.

        • 6 votes
        #6.53 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

        I'll have to ask your mom, give me a minute

        • 1 vote
        #6.54 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

        She is dead, it might take you a lot longer or much less, but whatever strikes your fancy.

        • 4 votes
        #6.55 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

        im sorry to hear that. it doesnt change the fact that my reply was just as stupid as your attempt at being funny.

        • 1 vote
        #6.56 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

        Doing great, lisa! Thanks.

        • 2 votes
        #6.57 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

        There is a rule about funny Caesar ... you cannot laugh at someone else unless you can laugh at yourself.

        • 4 votes
        #6.58 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

        i know your anti religious

        You don't know much about me - and that claim is ridiculous. But to set your illusions straight, I am generally pro-religious - to each his/her own whether Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Agnostic or Atheist. I lean anti-religion as all too often, individuals use religion to support their hate filled personal agendas or dictate and form their moral code without question.

        • 6 votes
        #6.59 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

        all too often, individuals use religion to support their hate filled personal agendas or dictate and form their moral code without question.

        As religion is far too often separate from thought so should it be also separate from State.

        • 8 votes
        #6.60 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

        good for you blackcat, there is another rule, do unto others you know kinda golden but i get what you're saying.

        Reddev you're generally pro religion except when youre against it? I got it, however i made no religious comment initially, you turned it into some weird sexual tirade. I agree that happens with religion, but look at politics or anything else in life, its all angle. I am not religious but most people try to do whats right within their beliefs but we're human. they make mistakes. As for my claim being rediculous I can only base it on what i see, just like what you see of me.

        • 1 vote
        #6.61 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:04 PM EDT

        Caesar Augustus-

        Straying off the ranch a bit, but I see no reason for you to be banned. Maybe some tar and feathers but not much more than that.

        • 2 votes
        #6.62 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

        No one would know if IRS was prosecuting Romney on his taxes or not. It takes years. I was a IRS whistleblower on former employer who cheated me on wages, healthcare insurance, and a number of issues. Pay me now or pay me later. The guy bragged nonstop how he was cheating everyone everyday. I wrote it down.... IRS took 6 years to finish him off. Over $220,000 recovery, I got 5%. Six years of hard work by IRS. So don't think Romney isn't being audited etc. Takes awhile to exhaust all appeals on these crooks! IRS ROCKS!!!!!! Romney is hiding his taxes for a reason. Reid knows more than he is telling. Romney thinks the damage from not showing his taxes outweighs the damage if his taxes are shown....Yep...that bad!

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 4 votes
        #6.63 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

        nice try feisty, no safecracker or frosty

        No worries, little caesar... the clock is ticking...

        If only you were half as 'bright' as you believe you are... lol

        • 5 votes
        #6.64 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:46 PM EDT

        oh no...clock is ticking? more veiled threats. well feisty you'll feel kinda dumb when you find out im not a re-reg but im sure you'll do your damnedest to get me banned. LOL... go for it. if you only you were bright to begin with. you see Feisty, you are offensive in every way, you think you own this place, your personal play ground to bully. look at your dumb avatar. tell me how that doesnt violate the newsvine code of honor. my life would go on, yours however would be shattered.

          #6.65 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:13 PM EDT

          well feisty you'll feel kinda dumb when you find out im not a re-reg but im sure you'll do your damnedest to get me banned. LOL

          Has anyone ever told you how cute you are when you're in full blown victim mode? lol

          Poor thing...

          more veiled threats

          Not a threat my friend, it's a PROMISE! ;o)

          • 6 votes
          #6.66 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:19 PM EDT

          im not a victim, i dont feel sorry for myself, im not a registered democrat.

          good luck. sad sad life. nice clown nose.

            #6.67 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:21 PM EDT
            Reply

            Romney has alot expirence hiring good people to do the job. I can't wait to see him in action. If I were Obama I would spend my last few months in office trying to fix the problems created by his policies. He would be doing his former supporters a huge favor if he came clean about the fact that his policies have put many more people on the path to poverty. It's unfortunate the first minority president wasn't a better role model.... :/

            • 11 votes
            Reply#7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

            I hate to Burst your Bubble, but Willard will not be elected. People just don't like or trust him.

            • 22 votes
            #7.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

            Then why is Mitt looking to use so many GWB retreads? He would not be forging his own admin, he would be going down the same failed path used by GWB. You guys don't even want to talk about him anymore so why would you vote for someone who would emulate his admin?

            Never mind. I know - ABO. No matter who or how little you know about him or how little his fellow repub presidential contenders hated him - you will pull the lever for somebody who will sign anything put in front of him by Grover.

            • 12 votes
            #7.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:43 PM EDT

            It's unfortunate the first minority president wasn't a better role model.... :/

            Are you saying America needed another role model like bush?

            Do you remember that the republicans took a surplus and turned it into the largest deficit in our history and a recession in just 8 years? The republicans want to return to that success with Romney?

            President Obama is fighting to increase his own taxes for a better America for us all.

            Mitt the twit is fighting to decrease his taxes no matter how many wounded veterans have to do without care.

            President Obama trust the people and released 8 years of taxes to the American people to be properly vetted to run for president.

            Romney hides his tax returns, takes his hard drives from when he was governor, has the paperwork from the Olympics shredded after promising to release them and then says trust me.

            You tell me which is the better role model?

            VOTE FOR SANITY...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

            • 14 votes
            #7.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

            Romney has alot expirence hiring good people to do the job.

            Considering the number of self-inflicted wounds made by Romney and his campaign team, the statement above is suspect. A crack campaign team would not have allowed international headlines like RomneyShambles, Mitt the NitWit, nor would they have allowed 1040-RomneyGate. What Romney does have experience in is hiring good people to meet the goals of Vulture Capitalism, and that is about it - hardly qualifications for being President.

            • 10 votes
            #7.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:54 PM EDT

            Guys, Obama's blame Bush policy of leadership lost support with the American people in '09. He needs to convince Americans his policies created something of value. More important Obama needs to convince Americans he can work with congress the next 4 years. (that isnt likely to happen) Obama's TV commercials of Mitt Romney singing the national anthem reminds me of a stunt a 5 year old would pull to win a cute baby contest.

            • 6 votes
            #7.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

            Romney has caused the firing of a vastly larger number of good people, than he has ever hired.

            • 9 votes
            #7.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

            Romney has caused the firing of a vastly larger number of good people, than he has ever hired.

            Is that you Harry Reid?

            • 4 votes
            #7.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

            Yeah Mitt, it's me Harry, what are you gonna do about it have your buddies hold me down and cut my hair.

            • 5 votes
            #7.8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

            nah if Mitt held down Harry, Harry would refuse to pass a budget.

            • 1 vote
            #7.9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:14 PM EDT
            Reply

            UAW, Obama will have his hands full cleaning up the rest of the mess left by Dubya. Too bad 8 years isn't enough because Hillary or whoever goes after Obama will still have some elephant poo to clean up.

            • 13 votes
            Reply#8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:41 PM EDT

            The V.P will be Liz Cheney

              Reply#9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:46 PM EDT

              Now that would be intriguing and "out of the box" thinking - but it won't happen.

              The Teapublican base is already nervous about Romney's Mormon religion, liberal past, policy flips, and "Romneycare", they'd totally wig out over the selection of a pro-marriage-for-everyone lesbian, go off and vote for anyone else, or not vote at all.

              Romney is going to find someone bland and boring, that won't overshadow his candidacy.

              • 2 votes
              #9.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:54 PM EDT
              Reply

              NBC's Alex Moe reports that Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R-VA) will join Romney on the first leg of the tour in Virginia.

              NBC's Andrew Rafferty reports that Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH), a veep front runner, will join Romney in Ohio.

              Hey, that's the ticket. Romney can pretend he's choosing a VP candidate in every swing state to pump up his sagging poll numbers in those states. Then he can flip-flop at the convention and name someone totally different.

              • 8 votes
              Reply#10 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:51 PM EDT

              Houston - that still won't work. His negative numbers are going up faster than the US men's basketball scores at the Olympics!

              Obama/Biden 2012

              • 4 votes
              #10.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:23 PM EDT
              Reply

              Nbcnews formerly know as Msnbc which no one watched is still trying to get Romney to announce his VP during the Olympics so it get's buried in all the news. NOT HAPPENING. Might happen the following week, but not now. SORRY BARACK.. alert.......Harry Reid just announced that he was proof that Obama his beating his wife again.. Obama should come forward to say if this has STARTED again. I thought it had stopped.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#11 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:53 PM EDT

              Let us know when the republicans find a candidate who is honest enough to release their tax returns.

              Who cares who the VP choice? Do you think Romney is willing to vet any of the VP choices with only 1 year of tax returns? It takes 6 years of tax returns to apply for a cabinet position.

              Republicans demanded birth certificates and even after seeing it won't even believe President Obama was born in the United States and President Obama did release 8 years of his taxes to be properly vetted by the people and yet the republicans expect the rest of us to believe Romney about his taxes just because he says trust me I'm rich.

              Come on Mitt, man up and join the grown ups who actually release their tax returns. Only a coward would cry it the big bad democrats fault because they are going to pick on me.

              It is time for Mitt to put up or shut up.

              • 9 votes
              #11.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:11 PM EDT
              ContemptMeDeleted
              Reply

              "It will start in Virginia; then head to North Carolina Sunday, the day the Olympics conclude; Florida Monday, Aug. 13; and end in Ohio Tuesday, Aug. 14."

              In other words, one last tease with McDonnell and Rubio before he announces who he'd planned to announce all along - Rob Portman.

              And the crowd goes wild......

              • 6 votes
              Reply#12 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:55 PM EDT

              I doubt that the announcement of Portman as his VP choice would excite the few hundred people in Romney's "crowds" - even if he is in Ohio at the time.

              I live in Ohio and NOBODY gets excited about Rob Portman - Republican or Democrat.

              If would mean that Romney finally found someone with less charisma than him!

              • 10 votes
              #12.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

              TNSEVOL -

              I was thinking about this skit that one of the late-night comedians - pretty sure it was Letterman - was doing a while back. Every time he mentioned "Rob Portman" in his monologue, they would cut to a shot of a bunch of girls in the audience shrieking and fainting like they were at a Justin Bieber concert. With any luck, Portman will get the nod and he can turn it into a running joke!

              • 5 votes
              #12.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

              Portman is the only person more boring than Romney. You wouldn't want to get too close to either of them, the dullness might rub off on you.

              • 6 votes
              #12.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:02 PM EDT
              Reply

              Just like none of the sane GOP candidates ran for president this year because they know President Obama will get re-elected......none of the rational GOP VP candidates are willing to be part of Romney's loser campaign.

              Sane and rational GOP candidates are waiting until 2016 to run.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#13 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:58 PM EDT

              Hey exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH, don't forget to put your dog on top of the bus so we will all recognize who's in the bus so we can throw rotten tomatoes at it!

              99% American People, vote 100% STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC and let's rid our selves of these corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY'S political puppets, like exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH, "do nothing" John Bonehead and the rest of them!

              • 8 votes
              Reply#14 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 3:59 PM EDT

              When the bus passes through DC on the way to Virginia, I would definitely hide the dog to save him from being a White House entree.

              • 3 votes
              #14.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

              Road Warrior -

              Romney was a wealthy ADULT when he chose to strap his dog to the roof of the car instead of paying for a kennel fee or renting a larger car.

              Obama was a CHILD eating what was given to him by ADULTS in an area where culturally it was okay. DO you really not see the difference?

              Laugh off the Romney story if you want, I happen to feel it reveals a lot about his character. Seriously, do you know of anyone who would do that to their dog? I can't think of anyone I know who would be so cruel and inhumane, especially when they could easily afford to do it differently.

              • 7 votes
              #14.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

              Willard also bullies kids, hates women, is a wimp, loves Jews, has expensive horses, outsources jobs and don't pay any taxes. He would be in deep doodoo if not for the Obama economy.

              • 2 votes
              #14.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

              If America was in another recession like all the countries that bought into the right wing plans of austerity for the poor and tax cuts for the rich I would think he was a failure. But we are not in another recession.

              Those countries in double-dipped recession would be more than happy to have 29 months of growth instead of double-dipped recessions.

              Just because the republicans have obstructed jobs, they now want to blame President Obama for their obstruction and lack of jobs.

              The republicans broke our economy have stood in the way of any recovery and now wants America to blame President Obama for what the republicans have done to our economy.

              If Romney had a shred of honesty he would have released his tax returns yesterday.

              The republicans would be howling and pissing in their pants with excitement if it was reversed and President Obama was refusing to release his tax returns.

              • 8 votes
              #14.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:48 PM EDT
              Reply

              Oh, look what I found! Imagine that, Obama bumping bellies with more Hollywood types!

              Monday, Aug. 06, 2012

              Obama holding fundraisers in Connecticut

              Associated Press

              WASHINGTON President Barack Obama is raising campaign cash with the help of Hollywood star power on Monday as his opponent closes in on a vice presidential selection.

              Obama was expected to raise at least $2.5 million at two events in Connecticut, including one at the home of film mogul Harvey Weinstein. Co-hosts for the Weinstein event include actresses Anne Hathaway and Joanne Woodward and writer Aaron Sorkin.

              Obama and Republican rival Mitt Romney are locked in a tight contest for the White House with three months before the election. Romney has outraised Obama during the past two months, prompting Obama to redouble fundraising efforts.

              Romney is expected to name his running mate before this month's Republican National Convention. He was spending Monday in private meetings at his New Hampshire vacation home.

              Looks like your boy is still desparately trying to close the gap on fundraising by "redoubling" his efforts. How can you redouble what he has already been doing for 3&1/2 years instead of running this country and fulfilling all his campaign promises? You notice that this article hasn't made it to MSDNC and won't make it because it does not constitute support for MSDNCs candidate for president.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#15 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

              What an Ass.. Do your job dip stick and you would'nt have to worry about the next 4 years ... Your "war chest"would be brimming with American dollars if you would concentrate on what you were hired for and quit rubbing shoulders with the rich and famous and sucking up to them for donations. Hopefully, come November 2012 you might be unemployed ..but unfortunately you will still be on the public dole..so in esence never really having a "real" job ... ?

              • 2 votes
              #15.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

              Don't forget that all that Hollywood star power is donating money to the campaign that promises to increase their taxes for a better America for us all.

              Romney is taking all that tax cut money donated by the rich that was supposed to be for jobs and instead using it to lie to the people to convince them to vote for the republicans that have promised them forever tax cuts no matter the increase in the deficit and what it does to the American economy.

              After the republicans crashed our economy and President Obama was elected. The republicans first priority wasn't to get America back on her feet but instead stated their goal as making President Obama and thereby America fail.

              Now the republicans would have you believe that 29 months of growth in the right direction is a failure but taking a surplus and turning it into the largest deficit in history and a bad recession is success.

              I would have to be pretty dumb to believe that republicans cared about America or jobs.

              • 9 votes
              #15.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:28 PM EDT
              Reply

              Nobody votes for the VP. They vote on their job and financial situation which is not very good for most people.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#16 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

              All that money Romney is wasting to try and move into the White House...Hey Mitt, it's not your turn, plus it's occupied already...LOL

              Team PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA..AGAIN IN 2012 !!!

              • 14 votes
              Reply#17 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

              It is occupied by a financial incompetent who has taken little if any EFFECTIVE action to turn our economy around, someone who has run up the national debt even higher while having NO BUDGETS as our country is $16 trillion in debt !

              • 2 votes
              #17.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:34 PM EDT

              I wonder what party was it that voted for the deficit and proudly stated that deficits didn't matter?

              I wonder what party was it that for the first time in our history gave tax cuts during war time and drove up the deficit?

              I wonder what party was it that took a surplus and a healthy economy and in just 8 short years turned it into a recession and the largest deficit in our history and bleeding millions of jobs?

              I wonder what party was it that decided that making President Obama a failure was more important than repairing the damage they had done to our economy?

              I wonder what party got elected in 2010 on jobs, jobs, jobs and have done nothing but prevent jobs in America while voting for jobs in China by voting to keep the special tax cuts for paying the corporations to move American jobs overseas?

              You guessed it the party of Mitt the twit. The party that puts tax cuts for the rich before taking care of our wounded veterans or feeding the children of the parents who lost their jobs and homes due to the republicans crashing our economy.

              VOTE FOR SANITY...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

              • 8 votes
              #17.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:05 PM EDT
              Reply

              All you pissed off teawackers and RepublicPukes: You complain 49 % of the people don't pay any Fed taxes> Well How about someone making 20 million a year and not paying Fed Taxes...Yup: You guess it...your good old boy Mitt...the Flipflopper>

              • 10 votes
              Reply#18 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

              Willard also parks his yacht in Rhode Island next to John Kerry's.

              • 1 vote
              #18.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

              Kewl: I bet kerry had a bigger Boat.

              • 2 votes
              #18.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

              A-maze-ing, Such disingenuos BS from you ! First you Dems claim Romney doesn't release his tax returns, then you claim to know how much he makes. Even Democratic lap dog Harry Reid has ADMITTED he doesn't know if the rumor he is spreading is true or not, but you pissed on libbies and Dummycraps are lapping it up !

              Harry Reid is $hoveling $hit and you guys are lapping it up ! The mind of a liberal is a terrible thing to waste.

              • 4 votes
              #18.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

              If Mitt the twit had nothing to hide, he wouldn't be hiding his tax returns.

              I mean all Mitt would have to do is release his tax returns and prove Harry Reid wrong. It couldn't get any simpler than that.

              It is Romney shoveling the sh!t that you guys are lapping up and then pretending tax returns don't matter, unless it would have happened to be President Obama not releasing his tax returns.

              Go ahead and tell me how okay it would have been if President Obama didn't release his birth certificate, much less his tax returns.

              Buying into the republicans con job does not make you smart.

              • 5 votes
              #18.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:28 PM EDT

              No maze, Kerry has a "swifter" boat.........

                #18.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

                And yet, liberals have minds, unlike the far right who just seem to have absolutely NOTHING upstairs - at all!

                Obama/Biden2012

                • 4 votes
                #18.6 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

                Jim ~ Why don't you have a problem with Romney NOY releasing his tax returns? Does it not strike you as somewhat curious? Doesn't it make you think about what's in them that he doesn't want you to see? What other major politician hasn't shown his/her tax returns?

                • 5 votes
                #18.7 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                So because Reid tell a lie, Romney must prove it isn't true. All that would do is encourage (not as if that ever is needed) the liberials to tell more likes, so that Romeny would have to disprove them too. I am glad he is not taking the bait. I would simply tell my lowyer to start a slander case. If there where a problem Romney would be in prison for tax evasion. Unlike Bonnie Frank.

                  #18.8 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 8:03 PM EDT

                  So are you telling me that republicans don't care at all about vetting Romney?

                  It is also true that if President Obama was not born in the United States that the republicans with all their hate would have never let him run for president, much less be elected. To this day the republicans are still throwing out the lying birther nonsense.

                  Romney is the one claiming to be such a businessman and look at my record. Romney's own father said that anyone trying to get away with just releasing one year of taxes was likely trying to lie to you.

                  The problem with Romney filing a slander case would be he would have to prove Harry Reid is lying. Just how does he do that without releasing his tax returns?

                  So tell me if Romney is so honest and his taxes are all so correct, then what is the reason he won't release his tax returns and prove Reid to be the liar? This would be a great boon for Romney and might even cause him to win if he could prove Harry was lying.

                  So now you know if Romney does not release his tax returns we know Harry is not lying.

                  • 1 vote
                  #18.9 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 9:01 PM EDT
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                  Perfect 2nd on the Romney ticket in two words: Dan Quayle.

                  Tanned. Rested. Ready! Member of a multi-billion dollar private equity firm and a director of a foreign bank, Aozora Bank, Tokyo! Plus he's a 65-year-old currently living in Arizona. And probably still dumb as a post.

                  Sounds like a match made in Heaven (or whatever the LDS call it) to me!

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#19 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                  pretty sure satan is also available as v.p. for r-OMEN-y

                  • 7 votes
                  Reply#20 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                  Sorry, Jeremiah Wright is not interested.

                  • 5 votes
                  #20.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:14 PM EDT
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                  WoW !! I thought the Liberal, Lefties were warm, welcoming and inclusive to any and everybody ... I guess they do have certain biases though ?? Would not want to be a "special needs" person in their world .. it would be one scary existance ??!!

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#21 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                  Good lord, as if the republicans cared about our people.

                  With the Ryan budget the republicans voted to take food away from children to pay for bigger tax cuts for Romney.

                  With the Ryan budget the repulicans voted to take care away from wounded veterans to pay for bigger tax cuts for Romney.

                  With the Ryan budget the republicans voted to take medicare away from our seniors to pay for bigger tax cuts for Romney.

                  With the Ryan budget the republicans voted to take education away from our children to pay for bigger tax cuts for Romney.

                  With the Ryan budget the republicans voted to bring a recession to America on purpose to pay for bigger tax cuts for Romney.

                  Of course Romney thinks the Ryan budget is marvelous.

                  I would not want to be a regular American in the republicans for the rich only world... it would be one scary existence??!! right jw?

                  • 4 votes
                  #21.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

                  Actually the Ryan budget froze those budget at current levels. but to a Liberal any budget that does not double every year is considered a budget cut. That is the problem Liberials want to tax everyone so that they can then take the taxpayers money then show how careing they are by using it to buy childrens meals. Why not let the Parients keep their money and purchase the meals for their own Children? Whey do Liberials wnat poor peoole to buy homes they can't afford, so that the banks can repo them? Liberials tend to forget that half of us pay the taxes for the rest of them. I like it years ago when we were allowed to donate money to chirches that had food kitchens that feed the poor, far better and cheaper then the Government does with their Food Stamp Program. The problem is privite organizations do a far better job then the Government can do at far less cost. Look at education. We pay school board members far more then Teachers. They could eleminate 50% of the school boards and use that money to improve education.

                  • 1 vote
                  #21.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:36 PM EDT

                  300,

                  If the need base goes up and the total dollars stay the same, yes people will receive less, so it is a cut.

                    #21.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:52 AM EDT
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                    Here's my VP short list for Myth Romney;

                    1.) Dan Quail

                    2.) Dick Cheney

                    3.) Rudy Guliani

                    4.) Clint Eastwood

                    5.) Arnold Swarzenegger

                    6.) Ann Coulter

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#22 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                    7) Ed the talking horse

                    • 8 votes
                    #22.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                    I lol'd at the Ann Coulter pick.

                    • 5 votes
                    #22.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                    Rod - Nope, Ed would outshine Mitt and actually has better taste than to stand next to him!

                    Obama/Biden 2012

                    • 5 votes
                    #22.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

                    I still think "hoof in mouth" Biden still takes the cake, over any of those.

                      #22.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:24 PM EDT

                      I lol'd at the Ann Coulter pick.

                      Don't laugh. They ran Palin last time didn't they?

                      • 3 votes
                      #22.5 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:29 PM EDT

                      McCain vetted Romney and chose Palin. What does that say?

                      • 2 votes
                      #22.6 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 10:48 AM EDT
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                      I believe that it doesnt matter who runs with gov. Romney. He will not win, to conservitive and ratical.Go Obama.

                      • 9 votes
                      Reply#23 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                      i am no predictor of who will win or not,, but as a registered democrat i was ready to support Romney but now that has changed with the money boys dictating his posture,,like the cock bros.. it is difficult just how many votes may have been lost with the tight ass repugs spreading lies and being dishonest about campaigning untruths

                      that is my opinion for what it is worth

                      • 1 vote
                      #23.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

                      Too radical???? I guess bypassing the Congress is not Radical, by using Exective Orders. Passing Obamacare that requires everone to purchase a product, that mose americans do not want to purchase. Which now opens the way for the Government to force the citizens to purchase anyting the Government deems nessary to them. He puts down the Supreme Court (even after he puts 2 judges on the bench). He complains when the Democratic Senate doesn't vote for his budget by a vote in which 0 democrats vote for his budget. We are more then 3.5 years into a depession that shows no sign of improving, for the 25 million people who want to work, What has improved?? Food, gas, school, all have nearly doubled, and the wages have not, for the lucky ones that managed to keep their jobs. Meanwhile taxes will be going up (not even counting the Bush Tax issue) for everyone, because of the Obamacare's 21 new taxes on everyone. Most have heard of the National Tax Day. it is nearly a month later then it was 4 years ago. Most of you that own homes have had them loose 40% or more, but your propery taxes did not go down 40%, they most likely stayed the same. Or Dept has grown by nearly 6 trillion and we have nothng to show for it. Imagine if they gave that 6 trillion to the taxpayers instead. I am sorry but even the rosiest rose colored glasses can not change the outlook here. Even S&P is looking to down grade the US more, due to no improvement, but acutally, the outlook looks worse then ever.

                        #23.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:22 PM EDT
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                        If Romney steals this election then we can blame him for the bad economy....and the 8 years of Bush.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#24 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                        Don't forget the Congress and ATM machines.

                        • 5 votes
                        #24.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                        Toyota, If Romney wins, I am quite sure you will be blaming Romney .... probably before he is even inaugurated! LOL !! But if Obama wins, he will inherit AN EVEN BIGGER MESS than the guy who was inaugurated in January, 2009 ! Two steps forward and Three steps back ... it's the new "bam-bam" dance.

                        • 3 votes
                        #24.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

                        When President Obama was elected our country was bleeding millions of jobs, people losing their home and life savings.

                        We have now had 29 months of growth and the republicans want you to believe growth is failure. But taking a tax surplus and low unemployment with the republicans turning it into the largest deficit in our history and a great recession in just 8 years is success.

                        Voting for Romney, I would call that the pretzel dance of the brain dead.

                        • 3 votes
                        #24.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:55 PM EDT

                        Pelosi and Reid, passed the Home loan bills that forced banks to loan money to poor homebuyers that should not have ever gotten the loans in the first place. Fanny and Freddy backed the loans which allows the banks to lend the money. Thus putting the american tax payer on the list for any and all defaults. They also pass bills allowing the banks to get into risky ventures, agian backed by the Government/taxpayer. Then they bailed out companys (like GM) that would have gone through bankruptsy, and emerged out better and leaner, but the unions wanted a piece of the action so again the taxpayers had to buy shares in GM. Now we have to wait to see if it ever is worth what we paid for it. Then the Government passed the TARP bills to give out money, that never went to create perminate jobs, just ones that would last a year. According to Obama's plan we should have 5.6% unemployment now not the 8.3%. We should have 14 million unemployeed not the 25 million. the National Dept was to be 5 trillon by now, not 16 Trillion. If Obama's plan gets done the way he wants there will be nothing left. Sorry he had 2 years with his party in total contol of the county and didn nothing to improve the situation. In fact it got worse. Then he got the president and the Senate under his control with a Reublican House and agian nothing was done. Clinton had a republican majorty in Congress and ballanced the budget, and jobs increased. Regan had a Democrat controlled Congress and the 1979-80 depression improved in less then 3 years. Why hasn't Obama done it? The only ones that have improved are the Big Banks, from the money and property they got from the tarp moneys.

                          #24.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:55 PM EDT
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                          Romney plays his cards close to his vest. He doesn't give out any more information than required and he seems to have been told by his advisers to not ad-lib.

                          I'm betting that these two are just a diversion to generate some different news chatter that can't have any negative effect on the campaign and also to play to the base a bit. I think he'll announce late to get a good bump going into the convention. Not all in the GOP are excited about him, so he needs to generate some buzz for the convention.

                          I think he'll pick Paul Ryan in an attempt to please the far right and the fiscal conservatives. Then he just has to convince the old people that any cuts to Social Security or Medicare will not affect them with any benefits they currently get.

                          • 2 votes
                          Reply#25 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:17 PM EDT

                          Living WITH A BUDGET might be a good thing for our country ... Obama wants a blank check and a credit card !

                          • 4 votes
                          #25.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                          so he will need to lie to the "you old people"? good luck with that, "old people" are skeptical when it comes to shysters and bamboozelers like Romney.

                          • 10 votes
                          #25.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                          If he chooses Paul Ryan they can run on the Herman and Eddie Munster look alike ticket.

                          • 10 votes
                          #25.3 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                          It is about time someone tells the AARP group that we can not afford the types of payments that SS and Medicare has agreed to. I do not know of any workers that want to pay out over $1300 a month out of their paycheck to support one retiree. (Based on the one to one (payer to payee) that SS will soon have) They have to up the age or cut back on the types of payouts (someting like only to retiees, and not to others like dependant children, or SSI ac@!$%#s. etc. Obama had 09 amd 10 to push through anything he wanted and did nothing, except complain about Bush. As much as I would like to see Paul Ryan, on the ticket he is really needed in Congress to help get a real Budget and Debt control for this country. This country needs to start acting like us middle class people. We can't print money when we want more, we have to live on a budget. It is about time the Government (who is susposed to serve us, do the same. The problem is we live in a sociaty that is either givers, or takers, and it will be hard to change with more takers then givers out their voting to get more.

                          • 1 vote
                          #25.4 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 7:05 PM EDT
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                          The dumb nut talking heads are working overtime again on guessing Romney...would be nice to see them guessing how and why Obummer so totally screwed over the US jobs and economy

                          • 7 votes
                          Reply#26 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

                          You like to throw out wild accusations but no facts whats-so-ever.

                          I guess 29 months of growth is totally screwing over jobs and the economy. President Obama in 3 1/2 years has already created more jobs than bush created in 8 years.

                          But taking a tax surplus and low unemployment and turning it into the largest deficit in our history with a great recession in only 8 years is somehow what republicans call success.

                          Mittens wants to lead the free world and yet is not man enough to release his tax returns to the big bad democrats because they are going to pick on him.

                          If privacy is such a big issue then the republicans need to take their government vaginal probes home and leave women alone.

                          • 5 votes
                          #26.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

                          If you call any Obama Growth, you need your eyes checked. He started with 7.8% unemployment it has never been under 8% since then. That doen't even count the people who dropped out of the job rolles and just gave up. Before the Democrats took over the Congress in 06 Bush had an 4.6% unemployment (something Obama in his wildest dreams could not imagine). If Congress didn't screw things up and started the housing bubble we probably would still be under 5%. This country can not afford Obama's Growth. He has increased the Debt more then Bush did in 8 years (given his spending habits) he would out spend Bush's 5 trillion debt in 8 years by more then double that. Every other depression this country has had would have been over by now (except for the Great Depression) which lasted more then 10 years (when WWII ended it) but he still tries to follow FDR's policys, knowing that they didn't work. He blasted Bush for his Debt, but it is now ok for him to triple it, and working on quadrupling it.

                          As for Women, If a woman wants Birthcontrol pills let her buy them, I should not have to pay for them. The Liberals want all these free things, and want everone else to pay for them. Sorry the Constitution doesn't say anywhere I have to pay for someone's elses birth control.

                          • 2 votes
                          #26.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 6:51 PM EDT

                          Dear 300 Michael .... sounds like you need to lose some weight, as we are now sure 300 is not your IQ ... It is only in a Republican controlled , Small government world , that women in the privacy of a Doctors office, have to worry about John Boehner, Eric Cantor and ... You deciding which precriptions are appropriate and which don't comport with what your latest preacher told you you should be outraged over .... fact is, nobody wants to necessarily pay for your Viagra Prescription either, but the nation isn't going to make an ass of itself deciding each and every prescription that should be written on the sacred privacy of a doctors office... only something as dispicable as an elected republican would create this circus atmoshere against women and the precription they need through-out life... Tell Mitch McConnell that he's too old for Viagra and nobody is interested in being humped by him.. anymore anyway... after all. we've all been dry humped by the republican party over the past decade ...

                            #26.3 - Tue Aug 7, 2012 1:45 PM EDT
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                            How is it that medical cannabis in not a campaign issue. People want a honest debate and they will not even bring it to the table.This one thing could redirect the G.O.P., but they would rather worry about what the gay community is doing to the church.

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#27 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:20 PM EDT

                            Voting against ones best interest is the norm throughout the "Bible-Belt". Wake up fools.

                            • 1 vote
                            #27.1 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                            Well, as least I don't have to do any more thinking. I am in a group (YOU included) that thinks we have all of the correct answers. What an incredible joke on us all...

                              #27.2 - Mon Aug 6, 2012 5:14 PM EDT
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