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J. Scott Applewhite / AP
Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – Paul Ryan’s got a friend in Bobby Jindal.
Jindal, governor of Louisiana, told an audience of conservative activists on Saturday that presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney would send a “powerful message” on budgetary issues were he to choose Ryan, Wisconsin’s U.S. House representative, as his running mate.
The remarks came as Jindal – a buzzed-about veep prospect himself – wrapped up a keynote address to the Red State Gathering in Jacksonville, an annual conference of Tea Party and other conservative activist groups.
"I think picking somebody like a Paul Ryan would send a very powerful message that this administration was serious about Medicare reform, entitlement reform, shrinking the size of government, and doing so in a courageous way," Jindal said of a Romney presidency.
Ryan is chairman of the House Budget Committee and the author of a controversial plan that Democrats have attacked over its cuts to federal entitlement programs.
Romney, who won Ryan’s endorsement in March, has spoken favorably of the plan, pleasing conservatives who have helped to make Ryan’s name a nationwide brand.
Still, some at the conference here clearly had another veepstaker in mind.
“I was going to God bless you and pray that our nominee has you and your first lady on the list to be vice president,” an audience member said as Jindal took questions.
Jindal, brushing aside the compliment, responded that he has a “bias” toward the executive experience earned by governors, before adding that Ryan is an exception to that rule.
Asked later if he was making an endorsement of a Romney-Ryan ticket, Jindal said no.
“It’s certainly not my place to be making endorsements. I mean, it’s really up to Governor Romney to pick who he wants,” Jindal told NBC News. “I just think Paul Ryan brings a lot to the table.”
“Paul's a friend. Paul's been a great leader. I think he’s an example of a great choice,” Jindal added later. “I think there are several other examples of great candidates out there as well.”
Jindal earlier told the crowd that he also admired Florida Gov. Rick Scott and Texas Gov. Rick Perry– whom Jindal backed for president during the Republican primaries.
Perry, who dropped out of the race in January, announced for president at last year’s Red State Gathering, held in Charleston, S.C.
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Is the word 'table' a euphemism for jindal's bank account? Or, is jindal a pathetic brown-noser?
Someone brought up Bachman and the conversation disintegrated from there on out. Yikes!
Let me restore some focus: Hitler!
There, back from the extreme.
MSN: We could never get so luck as to have this certifiable nutcase Bachmann as the V.P. Could you imagine the debates??? LMFAO I mean this woman is clearly certifiable. Whose going to break it to her that she's married to a gay man??? A gay man who runs a clinic to convert gays back to straight by "praying away the gay". Who could make this stuff up, it's out of Woody Allen movie for god's sake.
Obama was a homosexual at one time!
People that get hung up on homosexuality are usually closet cases.
TONY, Blow it out your shorts you pathetic buffoon. You are beneath contempt you loon.
Democrats don't feel obligated to LIE and PRETEND that they are something which they are not.
Tell that to Larry Sinclair, you lying slug!
Tony is a homosexual and there is nothing wrong with that. Leave him alone.
Actually, Intrepid, you're completely wrong. Democrats consistently pretend they are something which they are not, and Obama is the poster boy for that particular technique. He pretended to be a moderate during the '08 primaries, pretended to have not voted against the infanticide bill, pretended to be pro-drilling during his Keystone photo shoot, pretended to care about bipartisanship until it came time to put it into actions, pretended to care about the middle class, and has put up a dozen other pretenses.
Have you ever read Dreams from my Father? The entire book is NOT an autobiography. It's a collection of fantasies about how he WISHES his past went and how he'd like us to THINK his past went. A poster recently posted a list of 40 different lies about Obama's personal life out of the book, but I don't have all of them with me. One was the lie that his name is African Swahili. 'Barack,' 'Hussein,' and 'Obama' are all Arabic in origin, not Swahili. I double-checked that, incidentally. I know a college professor who speaks Swahili. Obama can't even tell the truth about his NAME, dude. He's the king of pretense.
Cubs, let me just take up your Keystone claim. What Obama said was that several Federal agencies had as yet not fully reviewed the Keystone application to build a gas line from Canada to the Gulf. The Republicans passed a resolution which said that if the review were not completed within a certain time, the application automatically passes muster. Obama shot it down. Then, irony of irony, the backers of Keystone pulled their application off the table due to changes requested by both North and South Dakota that Keystone said warranted further analysis. Now, you were saying?
What some so conveniently forget, Keystone=Canadian Oil=US Refineries=contract to Asia, Canadian oil not destined for the US MARKET, I wonder why the Republicans haven't really advertised the fact that the Canadian Oil will not be refined for US consumption. Could be Republican talking points full of elephant dung as usual. The folks in the Dakotas aren't completely brain dead.
Obama 2012
Tony,
Larry Sinclair? Seriously? Two failed polygraph tests and a long wrap sheet of fraud isn't enough to convince you that he's a liar? Is that who you really want to hitch your wagon to? By all means, be my guest, lol.
Comming from the poster-boy party for the LGBT community, that's really funny!!!
DANIEL, I have absolutely no problem with her husband being gay. I do have a problem with the fact that the 2 of them are in total denial and spend their lives trying to convert other people to what thinks is morally "right". You see, in the Democratic party no one is pressured to pretend they are something which they so clearly as not. Remember Senator Larry "widestance" Craig getting arrested in the men's room at the airport??? Remember Ken Melman who worked for Dubya's relection campaign? He came out of the closet AFTER he no longer for the RNC. That's how your party treats diversity, that is to say, there is none.
SLUG
Intrepid said:
Yes, I'm aware that you didn't target me specifically with your comment, but I still contest your opinion that the majority of racist comments on here come from Republicans. The only Conservative poster that comes to mind that's posted racist comments in the past is some dude named Kurt I ran into a few nights ago. But I could name a dozen Libs easily who delve into race on a regular basis.
On a more playful note, if you've read enough racist comments on here to make you millions at ten cents apiece, then you've read at least 200,000 posts. Now, assuming that you spend a mere 30 seconds per post, that would mean you've spent nearly 1,700 HOURS (over 60 solid days) reading racist remarks. I doubt that much material would have slipped past me. ;-)
But on a more serious note, here's an interesting little list I found of racist comments Democrats have made against whites, blacks, Jews, Chinese, Indians, and anything else you can think of:
"I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."
-Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess
"You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent." -Senator Joe Biden
Mahatma Gandhi "ran a gas station down in Saint Louis."
-Senator Hillary Clinton
Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him."
-- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape
"You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva." -- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)
"Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?"
-- Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers
Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write." -- Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax
Black on Black
"In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture." -- Harry Belafonte
"Republicans bring out Colin Powell and J.C. Watts because they have no program, no policy. They have no love and no joy. They'd rather take pictures with black children than feed them." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager for the 2000 election
(On Clarence Thomas) "A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom." -- Spike Lee
"He's married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black."
-- California State Senator Diane Watson's on Ward Connerly's interracial marriage
Comments From The Past
"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."
-- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1944, after he quit the KKK.
"I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state .... The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia .... It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va .... I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities."
-- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1946, after he quit the KKK.
"These laws [segregation] are still constitutional and I promise you that until they are removed from the ordinance books of Birmingham and the statute books of Alabama, they will be enforced in Birmingham to the utmost of my ability and by all lawful means."
-- Democrat Bull Connor (1957), Commissioner of Public Safety for Birmingham, Alabama
"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
-- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book, "Inside The White House"
(On New York) "K*ketown." -- Harry Truman in a personal letter
"There’s some people who’ve gone over the state and said, ‘Well, George Wallace has talked too strong about segregation.’ Now let me ask you this: how in the name of common sense can you be too strong about it? You’re either for it or you’re against it. There’s not any middle ground as I know of." -- Democratic Alabama Governor George Wallace (1959)
On Jews
"You f*cking Jew b@stard." -- Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in "State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton" and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses.
"The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes." -- Louis Farrakhan (1984) who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002
"Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under his holy and righteous name." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, 1984
'Hymies.' 'Hymietown.' -- Jesse Jackson's description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.
"Jews — that's J-E-W-S." -- Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002
On Whites
"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health."
-- Charles Barron, a New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002
"Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them." -- Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights
(I) "will not let the white boys win in this election." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager on the 2000 election
"The old white boys got taken fair and square." -- San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown after winning an election
"There are white n*ggers. I've seen a lot of white n*ggers in my time." -- Former Klansman and Current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate" in March of 2001
"The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won't pay for much family planning." -- Jocelyn Elders
The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, City College audience in New York
"There's no great, white bigot; there's just about 200 million little white bigots out there." -- USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux
"We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders." -- Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992
"White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ, cited in "Democrats Do the Dumbest Things
"The white race is the cancer of human history." -- Susan Sontag
"Reparations are a really good way for white people to admit they're wrong." -- Zack Webb, University Of Kentucky NAACP
CUBS, thanks for your effort. I'm mightily impressed with the list you've compiled which "proves" that Republicans are not racist and Democrats are. But I ain't buying this nonsense.
90% of Blacks don't vote Democratic because they are all stupid. And don't give me that line about Democrats "enslaving" Black people to welfare, etc. When LBJ signed the 1965 Civil Rights Act he famously said "I'm signing away the South to the Republican Party for the next generation". He was sadly mistaken. It's 2 generations now and the South is more solidly Red than ever before. And all those Jim Crow racists didn't just suddenly disappear.
You've never heard of Nixon's "Southern Strategy" which IS STILL BEING USED TO THIS VERY DAY BY THE GOP??? All those DixieCrats have now become hard core Republicans. And it's not a mistake or a coincedence.
Putting paul ryan on the ticket will, be the gift that keeps on giving. to the Democrats.
I think Romney will pick Rubio because of the discussions of how much Mitt desperately needs the Latino vote, and some polls show it will win him Florida. Pandering? Yes. Effective? Maybe. He's also young and attractive, which always helps, sadly.
1. Polls show that Rubio doesn't do much for Mitt when it comes to Latinos.
2. He'd be a good choice anyway.
3. It's not pandering to choose someone with a strength you do not have.
4. The fact that you're calling Rubio young and attractive makes me think you're probably not the best person to trust for information on the inner workings of heterosexuals like you posted up the page.
5. Most people against the gay lifestyle are NOT closet gays. That would actually be true of racism. The majority of people I've seen who shout 'Race!' at every problem usually have a racism problem of their own.
Still hung up on gays. Look up the research. You probably are one.
I don't believe it, most people against the gay lifestyle probably played doctor when they were younger and now have deep concerns about their sexuality.
↑ Now I'm gay, Gem. I'll add that to my growing list of characteristics liberals have bestowed upon me. Lol. My favorite was when they decided I'm a 1%er. According to their collective diagnosis over the last several weeks, I'm a gay 1%er who's unemployed without a degree living with my girlfriend. LOL!
Only in the minds of liberals can these combinations originate, folks.
lol CubsFan, I hear ya alright lol.
Rest assured that they're incorrect on all five counts, though. ;-)
(Although I wouldn't have minded if they would have been right about being a 1%er!)
Chris, pick Rubio, not a chance, too much baggage especially with women here in Fl., Blunt-Rubio Legislation,fibbing about his immigrant status, claimed family arrived from Cuba to escape Castro, wrong, his family emigrated well before Castro took power, and then there's the little issue of irregularities with Fl. GOP Credit Card (still being investigated). Because Rubio is Cuban that doesn't sit too well with other Hispanic Groups, i.e., Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Dominicans, Latin Americans. No it won't be Rubio.
It really does not matter who the Republican VP selection is. HUSSEIN is toast. That on the job training never worked out for the democrat-communist party.
Romney could choose convicted felon Keith Judd for his running mate and still get 40% of the Democratic vote in West Virginia. Obama could only pull 60% against Judd in the primaries.
Your falsehoods, name calling and generalizations sound reasonable and level headed. I will change my vote based on your post......said nobody ever.
Hope wanes eternal for those Cubs fans, how long has it been?
Sheila,
103 years. What do the Cubs and Obama have in common? Neither one of them can get people excited about their lousy records. ;-)
TONY Larry Sinclair is your idea of a creditable reporter??????????????????
Are you efffinggggggggggg kidding me? The man was recently arrested and is a complete and total headcase and this is what you hold up as the gold standard for credibility??? Sorry, this won't cut it.
CUBS, Evidently you're using West Virginia as your notion of an educated electorate. I'm sorry but I can't agree.
That long? I am sorry, I was just thinking about Andre and Ryan and the catcher and just got caught up in good memories.
I like this guy. Now that's funny (and kind of sad.)
Paul Ryan represents the most extreme version of the "new neocons" and exhibits an unbelievable degree of incompassion, greed, hypocrisy and selfishness. Any Senior, sick person without insurance, woman, or middle income person who would vote for this "scoundrel" should have their head examined, because if you do, you will be voting against your own best interest. This Republican Party of today in no way resembles the GOP of old and frankly, they've become a disgrace. The best candidate they can come up with is a multi-millionaire who inherited money, has no connection or empathy with the poor or middle class, outsources American jobs, hides his profits and assets in off shore bank accounts and swiss bank accounts, refuses to divulge his tax returns because he more than likely paid NO taxes, and proposes a budget which would immediately cost some 350,000 jobs. Better think long and hard about this one if you fall into one of the above groups or you will certainly live to regret it.
That's kind of what all us past republicans are thinking, where in the heck did our party go?
Suddenly moderates and reasonable people are being voted out in favor of more radical tea party backed candidates. And the more radical they get, the more radical they accuse the other side of being.
What's worse is that they're all in a competition to outdo each other as to who can be the most far right crazy. Heaven help the poor soul who is labeled a "moderate" for he will be summarily executed on the Capitol steps for treason. It's a race to the bottom and the records are repeatedly broken. I remember a time when there were LIBERAL Republicans. I know cause I voted for a few of them. Those days are long, long gone and only the Tea Crazies remain. The few halfway sane people there were have either gotten out already or intend to soon.
This past republican was so excited to see Huntsman in the race early on. Depressed when he endorsed Romney, but there for a while I thought we were going to find our way back.
moderates are marxist liberals who lack the courage to admit it.
What a bunch of crap, moderates are moderates. The right has foced us to move a little left, and Palin, all by her little lonesome stupid self cost McCain the last election. I am still fuming over this, and instead of coming to somewhere in the middle with the electorate, you just keep coming up with an equally distasteful option.
Sheila, McCain was a moderate who didn't truly want to win. He was a wishy-washy candidate who didn't take the fight to his opponent. Obama should have been a cakewalk to defeat. The only thing he had going for him was the hype about his skin color. McCain allowed himself to be put on the defensive and he let his campaign fizzle.
Think about it. Can you remember any big campaigning issues from 2008? I can't. This year it's Obama's lies, Romney's tax returns, Obama's economy, Romney's tenure at Bain, etc. But in 2008? It was Obama saying "Vote for me, I'm black" and McCain saying "Vote for me, I'm a Vet." Neither message was very strong, and it's only fair to also mention that Biden was a HORRENDOUS choice on Obama's part. Biden makes Palin look like Einstein.
It's pretty pathetic when the Democratic opponent during the primaries (Clinton) runs a harder hitting campaign against the Democratic candidate than the Republican candidate does.
You may have a point, being republican all my life and voting just on the right to life, gay marriage issue, there probably wasn't much else going on. I will say this, watching Palin on tv absolutely turned me off. All of her winking and hair tossing, gotcha phrases really made me wonder what the republicans were thinking in making her the next step up to president. Voters this time are going to be more tuned in to the issues, and Ryans plans to privatize ss/mc should have everyone seriously thinking about how it will effect them. Some things just cannot be left to corporate whim. We are, and should remain, a country that cares for their older and less fortunate citizens. I don't fit in that equation right now, but I will some day. And as a side note, any Cubs fan that is not a Bears fan should at least be a Packers fan:)
Palin wasn't the best choice, but she was subjected to an appalling amount of garbage from the Left. The attacks on her personal life and that of her family (e.g. Todd, Bristol, and now Willow) were WAY over the line. But I'd be more afraid of having Biden in the Oval Office than Palin. At least Palin is aware that "Jobs" is a four letter word instead of a three letter word. Lol. And I have yet to hear her ask a quadriplegic to stand up.
Yes, I agree that there is definitely a place for organizations to help the elderly and less fortunate, but the Left tries to play on people's sense of compassion in an effort to make as many people as possible entirely reliant upon the government. If you don't mind my asking, what exactly are your current political persuasions, and who do you plan to vote for?
Oh my. I'd be boiled in oil by my fellow Bears fans if I were to change over to the Packers. Lol!
I don't know who I am going to vote for. At this point I might just vote for Johnson. As for the Packers, I am just in it for my dad's memory. I have to root for the Colts, quarterback or not. I guess we will have to see how Luck works out. For politics, I really wish there was a republican I could identify with. Romney just leaves me cold. Stupid statement, Johnson makes Romney look moderate, a vote his way would be wasted. I am waiting, I guess, and probably my mind will be made up when I enter the voting booth.
Romney is not the ideal candidate. But Obama is an utter nightmare and the idea of another four years under his administration is a very dark prospect. I'm not at all in love with Romney as a candidate. But you and I both know that folks like Ron Paul and Johnson don't stand a snowball's chance of winning this election. Either Obama or Romney is going to win. Many people are calling this election a choice between the lesser of two evils, and I tend to agree. Romney is undoubtedly better for this country than Obama, but that doesn't mean that Romney is a splendid choice or an ideal choice. But for each vote that we cast for people we know won't win, Obama becomes one vote closer to another four years.
Obama has raised the unemployment level over 10% and held it consistently over 8% and has lied to us about a myriad of serious issues. Latino unemployment is 11% and Black unemployment is 14.3%. He's raised our deficit to 99.7% of our entire GDP and has piled on 6 TRILLION dollars onto the debt in a mere three years. He's outspending Bush by a rate of roughly 2 and a half to one. His fiscal policies are a disaster, his foreign policies are in shambles, and he has no plan to better our country. It's my belief that it's our duty to cast our vote for whoever stands the best chance of removing Obama from office. Whether I personally like it or not, that person at the moment is Mitt Romney.
This one is going to be close, an election that polls really can't call if I am any indication. I have to think there are many people out there like me, and if Romney wants to win, he needs to reel in the undecided. So far he has not done anything to do that, he hasn't really put anything out there to excite the electorate. That is your own thinking about what went wrong with last election. He cannot just rely on the extreme right to win. I think if I was a republican candidate right now, I would distance myself from the far right as much as possible and try to regain the moderates. Don't know, I am not a political analyst, just my view from the voting public.
cubsfan:
Obama did not raise the deficit. Only the House can generate spending bills. So, the House raised the deficit.
Yes, this is Bobby Jindal from Comcast Customer Service - how may I help you today? Yes, sir - I am very sorry for the problems you have been experiencing with our Comcast Internet Service, and I would like to thank you for calling us here today - how may I help you? That sounds very interesting, and how long have you been having the problem with your Comcast Internet Service? May I put you on hold, sir, while I confirm your account information? Do you live in the City of Connecticut, sir?
↑ Intreeeeeeeeeepiddddddddd . . . .
I think Bob here is conflicting with your ideal of Liberal posters. I'd place this one right beside Hilary saying Gandhi worked at a gas station or Biden saying you can't go in a 7/11 without an Indian accent.
To Bobs ur uncle:
I hate to break it to you, but Bobby was a Rhodes Scholar.......not a customer service rep...Moreover, he was raised in the USA...
Gem, who's your football team? I know you're a Yankees fan (hey, nobody's perfect), so I figured you may have picked a NY football team, too. Giants are terrible, but if you're a Jets fan, at least you got my fav. QB to root for this season.
No fav NFL team, but my sister has season tix to the Jets, so I get to some of their games, Philly is close to me also. I have a love/hate relationship with the Eagles lol. Whose your team?
Well, being Chicago-raised locks me into the Cubs, Bulls, Blackhawks, and Bears, but I like the Patriots quite a bit as well. For some reason, I tend to pick East Coast teams as my alternative teams. If Chicago didn't have any teams, I'd be a Braves, Patriots, Celtics fan and I'd skip hockey.
boooooooooo Patriots! Celtics are cool, but my heart is with the Sixers:) I was a Bulls fan when Jordan played:), he's my 2nd fav NBA player, the great Julius Dr.J Erving is my most FAV! No ice hockey, I just can't get into it.
Boo Patriots?? Ugh. If I find myself out East, I'm asking you to a Patriots game, girl.
The Sixers? I hope you're aware that the Sixers drove a dagger through our hearts this year by pulling out a seven game miracle win against the Bulls (thanks to D-Rose getting hurt again). I actually never even followed the Celtics UNTIL they played the Sixers this year. Then I had to follow them for the sake of vengeance. And the Heat were an easy team to dislike, so I stayed with the C's through the next round as well.
Hockey's a bit boring, but playoffs Blackhawks hockey can be pretty exciting.
The only thing I have against Jordan is that he positively REFUSES to sing the 7th Inning Stretch at Wrigley Field.
The Sixer's are hot, their coach, Doug Collins, played with Dr.J:) I'm actually excited about next season. I didn't know that about MJ, but I don't blame him:) No. sorry, I will NOT go see the Patriots, I don't like them and I like Tom Brady even less, I was ecstatic when they lost the superbowl last year. If you like the Jets QB, I can get good seats to see them:)
Lol! Ok, the Jets it is.
Why don't you two get a cheap motel room and quit pretending you know anything about politics?
This isn't a dating site for the mentally challenged.
OneOf,
My sentiments exactly. It happens every night....CubsFan pops a viagra and waits for GermGem to come online.
Who would have thought that political discussion boards could be so tittilating?
Oh, that's right....Limbaugh would.
Jindal told NBC News. “I just think Paul Ryan brings a lot to the table.”
FORBS REPORT!!
Rick Ungar, Contributor
I cover the public health care policy beat!!
In the plan that provides health care benefits for federal employees, on which Ryan relies to make his premium support case, if a government employee’s premium costs go up –and they always do – the government increases the premium support in lockstep with the increased premium. Not so with Ryan Care.
Ryan’s proposal, that would turn Medicare into a private insurance program with the government providing assistance to seniors on their premium payments, limits increases in that support to the cost of living index – an amount wholly insufficient to cover the extra costs as we know that rising costs of health care and premium charges always exceed annual cost of living increases. Thus, if premiums increase (and of course they will) the costs of these increases will be shifted to our senior citizens who, in most instances, would not appear to have the ability to take on these increased costs on their fixed retirement budgets.
This, by anyone’s definition, is a voucher program.
However, when Ryan and friends continue to play the political game of blaming the President for misleading the public when it is, in fact, Ryan who is attempting to mislead, there will be no honest debate.
It is not the President who is demagoguing on this one – it is Paul Ryan.
contact Rick at thepolicypage@gmail.com
Anyone who has been paying into health insurance for the last ten years knows a voucher system will never, ever keep up with costs. At the best, you will always be three or four years outside of govt accounting to pay for it out of your own pocket.
Bachmann once proposed a bill that would do one simple thing: repeal everything Obama has ever signed into law.
It never stood a chance, but I like the spunk.
Well, she also thinks Jesus can cure homosexuality, so, insane delusions just seem to be a part of who she is.
Not to mention, Michele Bachmann’s dubious claim that HPV vaccinations for young girls can cause mental retardation.
She was definitively a wacko, but....I did so enjoy seeing all of them collapse during the primary. And Mitt....well he stayed quiet and spent waaaaay more money. So he was able to stay in the longest....not that he's the one Repub's want....just, he stayed in the longest and won.
my teacher was a brillaint hindu gentleman from india, and he steered us just right. i am inclined to listen to mr. jindal.
What did he teach? If it was philosophy, you're out of luck. Hindu philosophy is far inferior to traditional Aristotelian and Socratic philosophy.
George, Jindal is not a Hindu he's supposedly Christian, Louisiana is one of the poorest states in the Union, 46th in infant mortality rates, 60% of all live births are to unwed mothers, over 20% of the population have no medical insurance coverage of any kind. Cannot buy a private medical insurance product from one parish to another, i.e., could not buy United Health Insurance in St. Tammany Parish but could in Jefferson Parish, no intra-state sales, the only product you could buy State wide was Blue Cross based out of Baton Rouge. Public schools decrepit, food wonderful, New Orleans great Party Town, Movie Industry. The state is terribly polluted from the petro-chemical dumping, high sales tax rates and an income tax, political corruption a way of life. I know we just escaped after 11 years, husbands job was in the oil and gas industry. Just think Jindal has all of the above to be proud of he's a republican. Phooey!
The only better VP candidate for Romney than Rep. Paul Ryan would be the Evil Mr. Potter from A WONDERFUL LIFE.
--For the Democrats. Of course, then the Republicans would have to make sure nobody over 65 was allowed to vote...(they're already working on minorities and women, I suspect, through 'voter fraud' control. Fortunately, my daughter plans to bring her birth certificate to the polls in November, just in case).
I love that movie. Any Capra film is guaranteed to be excellent. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Mr. Deeds goes to Town, and You Can't Take it With You are some more favorites from Capra.
You 'suspect' that Republicans are trying to weed out minorities and women through voter fraud control? Sooooo if you don't care about fraud control . . . it's ok with you if a dead guy or your neighbor's dog casts a vote this year?
CubsFan,
Can you cite any specific examples of a fraudulent vote actually being cast? Well, as it happens, I can.
In January of 2010, a man who had moved to California the year before decided that he would like to vote in the special election to replace the late Ted Kennedy in his former home state of Massachusetts. The problem, of course, was that he no longer lived in Massachusetts, nor did he own property there. What was his solution? He would lie. On the voter registration form, he put an address in his son's unfinished basement as his place of residence (Massachusetts law defines a residence for the purpose of voter registration as "where one dwells and is the center of one's domestic, social and civil life. Those found guilty of registration fraud face a penalty of up to 5 years and prison and a fine up to $10,000.) So, after committing voter registration fraud, this man went on to actually cast a vote in an election in which he had no right to vote, thus committing voter fraud.
Who was this man, you ask?
Why it was none other than the presumptive Republicans presidential nominee, Mitt Romney.
So tell us again how serious of a crime voter fraud is, then tell us why Mitt Romney is the exception to the rule.
Haul him up in front of the jury if you want, VADem. No one's above the law in my book, and if the story went down how you said (which I know it did not), then fine him the 10 grand. I don't recall ever saying that anyone should be exempted, nor am I saying so now, despite the fact that your snarky post seems to expect that of me.
Incidentally, your story reminded me of the shenanigans Rahm pulled when he was desperately trying to meet the residency requirements to run for Mayor of Chicago.
If you're going to suggest that you "know" that's not how it went down, at least do me the courtesy of telling me where I'm wrong.
Sounds bogus VADem.
German,
Bogus? Why the hell do you think Mitt doesn't want to release his tax returns? They'd show that in 2010, he lived in California, not Massachusetts, and thus, he'd be admitting that he committed voter fraud.
Still waiting for CubsFan to tell me how it really went down.
Gem, elements of the story are correct according to the Daily Caller, but experts have already issued the justifications for Romney's vote and that's why this hasn't been turned into the big issue it would have been if VADem were entirely correct. The election board itself said it's stupid to bring this up now and that it should have been brought up when he voted if people took exception with the justifications offered.
VADem, you're slipping. The party line is that Romney won't release the tax returns because they show he didn't pay taxes for ten consecutive years. Is it both now?
And yet you do not name any of these "experts" or their justifications for his vote.
That's the difference between you and me, my opinions are not based on the party line. You see, my mind can function independently, without needing to be told what to think.
Do I actually think that Mitt Romney will be held accountable for any law he breaks? Of course not. He's white, rich and influential. I labor under no delusions.
Mitt actually has some more legal trouble ahead. You see, it's apparently against the law in Wisconsin to exchange gifts for votes, even if it's just a sub sandwich. It's also against GOP rules, and can disqualify one as their candidate. Ron Paul is banking on this. That's why he's stopped actively campaigning. Not because he's ceding the nomination to Romney, but because he feels it's no longer necessary in order to get the nomination himself as Mitt has broken so many GOP rules that he is no longer eligible to be their candidate.
It always helps if everyone has equal access to the same information. To see how the Presidential race is going without a Romney VP, hit the link below:
http://electoral-vote.com/

It's not like it will actually matter who Romney picks and I doubt any up and coming Republican would want to jump on that sinking ship.
President Obama's lead on the electoral map is just too big for Romney to overcome. Even the conservative pollsters like Rasmussen and Fox News show Obama winning this election quite handily. Romney has no viable path to 270.
Yeah! 4 more years and Obama will bankrupt America in 2, woo hoo!
Yeah, we've heard all the predictions of doom and gloom from Republicans. The problem is that they never come true. The economy, to Republican dismay, is improving. Are you actually suggesting that Romney wouldn't spend as much? Romney is a big government kind of politician and has a history with massive government spending.
Romney knows how to MAKE money, Obama knows how to SPEND money, and lots of it lol.
You may want to visit US DebtClock.ORG. The hype is real my friend.
Romney has a history of massive government spending?
Not sure how you plan to back that up, but you better find some pretty impressive numbers if you want to top Obama's six trillion, pal.
The economy is improving? Riiiiiiiight. That's why unemployment keeps going up and why Obama keeps blaming every day's troubles on Bush. I don't hear him out there calling for praise about how wonderful the economy is.
He's not THAT stupid...
Cubs,
According to the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, an independent group that studies fiscal policy, Romney increased spending every year he was Governor, while he claims to have cut spending.
German,
The government isn't a business, we are not it's consumers. You can't just fire people to increase profits like you can in the private sector. Look at our history with "businessmen" as president. W. and Hoover. How did those 2 work out?
Obama- Bankrupting America. Yahoo, I love Chinese food!
Hopefully the Public Address system will still be in English instead of Mandarin by the time we go to our Jets game, Gem. Lol. And I'll be disappointed if they replace the hotdogs with fortune cookies and rice patties.
I'll be leaving sometime fairly soon, btw.
Oh, right, because the Chinese are going to take over America because we owe them so much money. I know it's faux pas to blame the last guy, but hey, it is what it is, Bush started the trend of paying for everything by borrowing from China.
VADem:
You realize of course that the largest amount of debt is owed to the US? Retirement funds, private investments etc. Japan also holds a lot of debt.
I kind of think Romney is in a bind. The Tea Party is a long way from being thrilled with him. Despite his protestations it is fairly obvious that he is willing to compromise. That quality alone is enough to turn off the TPs.
And his record in Massachusetts looks (in some cases at least) to be downright liberal. Even the TPs are probably capable of checking that out.
So if Romney wants to suck in that TP extremist base, he's going to have to pick a TP type running mate. On the other hand, if he does that, a lot of the independents are going to head for Obama. Either way, Romney loses votes. It's tough satisfying that right wing base without alienating the sane folks in the country.
Obama squandered upwards of $6,000,000,000,000.00 in 4 years and our economy is trashed. Teaparty people are about fiscal responsibility, I don't think any of them will vote for Obama.
Sweetheart, he doesn't need them to, those were safe Republican votes from the get go. Look at the electoral map and swing state polling, even from the conservative pollsters, Obama has this election won, easily.
Romney 2012. We are sending Obama back to Kenya or Chicago, his choice.
No, VADem. Obama is losing swing states, and it's due in a large part to his gay marriage stance among Independents. My article on the subject is below. The links are on my avatar, as are the four footnotes:
On May 9, 2012, President Barack Obama announced his support of same-sex marriage, reversing the opinion he expressed on the campaign trail in 2008. During his campaign, then-Senator Obama stated: “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage” (Dschabner, 2008). President Obama altered this stance amidst recent mounting political pressure and said that “[he] think[s] same-sex couples should be able to get married” (O’Brien, 2012).
President Obama’s change of opinion ignited a whirlwind of controversy, and many commentators and polling agencies are struggling to determine the net effect of his announcement now that the dust has settled. Has Obama gained momentum via this shift, or has he lost important votes that may now go to his presumptive opponent, Mitt Romney? As we enter campaign season, these questions are certainly important. Many feel Obama’s change in opinion was entirely political in motivation (Leddy, 2012), but opinions on whether or not this turn of events will harm his reelection bid are relatively split.
The opinion closest approaching a general consensus is that the issue will not be a factor either positively or negatively during the election. Mark Murray of NBC characterized the result as “a wash” (2012), and an ABC News poll concluded the results are divided “essentially evenly” (2012). A Reuters poll[1] called the issue a draw due to the fact that “thirty-one percent of Americans have a higher opinion of Obama because of his gay marriage decision and 30 percent see him less favorably” (Bell & Storey, 2012).
Although many authorities have declared the issue irrelevant, there are those who disagree. Jeffrey Bell of NPR implies that various factors may combine to make this change in stance detrimental to Obama in the long run (2012). Referencing statements by Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Bell highlights the fact that “the unanimity of Democratic elites has made a gay marriage platform plank unstoppable” (2012).
There is certainly strong evidence that gay marriage will be an important campaign issue during the 2012 election cycle. Presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney seems to anticipate such a development, as he took the opportunity to reaffirm his opposition to gay marriage only hours after President Obama announced his change in stance (Haake & Montanaro, 2012). Obama enjoyed very narrow margins of victory in several states where gay marriage is unpopular, and Obama may lose one or more of these states through his change in opinion (Sorensen, 2012). Even Team Obama seems to recognize the potential harm this issue could involve, as shown by the fact that Vice President Joe Biden (whose outspokenness forced Obama to announce his stance) apologized to Obama for pushing him into making a decision on the issue earlier than he had originally planned (Yellin, 2012).
After examining the various theories and their corresponding support material, it seems that this decision will hurt President Obama’s reelection plans. While there are certainly many voters who view Obama more favorably due to his change in stance, those who appeal to this statistic as proof of gained votes are failing to recognize another relevant condition. How many of those who view him more favorably now still viewed him favorably to begin with? Although there are exceptions, Democratic voters are usually friendly towards gay marriage, and Republican voters are usually not. It is the Independent party that splits on the issue. Because of this, if gay marriage becomes a crucial election issue, it is logical to assume that the Independent vote will be the determining factor. A recent Gallup poll reveals this factor in clear detail. According to the poll conducted, only 11% of Independent voters say President Obama’s stance will make them more likely to vote for him in November, compared to a surprisingly large 23% who say the decision will make them less likely to vote for him (Munro, 2012). Naturally, it is impossible to determine in pre-election polls just how many of those polled will use this issue to actually decide their vote; however, once we note the fact that those Independents turned away by this choice outnumber those compelled by it by over two-to-one, it would logically follow that President Obama’s change in stance has cost him two Independent votes for every vote gained.[2]
It is important to realize that the line of reasoning applied above works in two directions. Not only must we admit the possibility that those who were pleased by Obama’s choice may have already been planning to vote for him, we must also admit the equally likely possibility that many of those who were displeased by his choice may have already been on Romney’s side to begin with. Because of the impossibility of determining exactly how many voters will actually change their vote based on this issue, the best we can do in analyzing the effects of Obama’s decision is to compare the size of the groups who were pleased and displeased with his change in policy. As the aforementioned Gallup poll shows, far more Independents are now less likely to vote for Obama, and similar numbers appear in other polls. A poll of Florida voters revealed that 25% of voters in that state are now less likely to vote to reelect President Obama (McDurmon, 2012). The potential significance of this figure is clearly apparent when we analyze Obama’s 2008 election results in Florida. President Obama won Florida by a mere 1.4%.[3] Thus, while all of the 25% of Florida voters mentioned above may not change their votes over this issue, the President can only afford to lose a very, very slim percentage of that 25%. Other states such as Ohio, North Carolina, and Virginia pose equal challenges. After adjusting for the changes in population in each state, the state of Florida and the three states previously mentioned will total seventy-five electoral votes in the 2012 election. While it is unlikely Obama will lose all four of these swing states, the fact that there are at least seventy-five electoral votes now in jeopardy shows the serious consequences this issue could play in the election. Such a loss in 2008 would have brought Obama and his Republican opponent John McCain within an uncomfortable forty-eight votes of one another.[4]
Not only does President Obama’s change in stance put battleground states in jeopardy, it also gives his Republican opponent (presumably Mitt Romney) another valuable piece of political ammunition. Mitt Romney has been accused of wavering on issues, and President Obama’s own wavering on this issue weakens the force behind his party’s attacks on Romney’s credibility. Obama has already changed other beliefs, promises and pledges numerous times, and the gay marriage issue is yet another topic that spotlights Obama’s own lack of long-term credibility.
Those who feel this issue will not hurt Obama’s reelection chances are not taking into account several important aspects of the issue. While the numbers may superficially seem to indicate that just as many voters were attracted by his announcement as turned away by it, a more in-depth analysis shows that a sizable portion of those who disapproved of his stance may change their vote from Obama to Romney because of it, while a much smaller portion will change their vote from Romney to Obama. When one combines the logical effects on voters with the political potential of such a drastic changed stance, one can only conclude that President Obama’s change in his stance on same-sex marriage will ultimately hurt his reelection bid.
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Bell, J. (2012, May 9). “Weekly Standard: gay marriage hurts Obama’s bid.” NPR. Retrieved from
Haake, G. and Montanaro, D. (2012, May 9). “Romney renews opposition to same-sex marriage.” MSNBC News. Retrieved from
Leddy, D. (2012, May 22). “Advanced legal columnist: Obama playing politics on same-sex marriage.” SiLive.com. Retrieved from
Mason, J. (2012, May 15).“No boost for Obama from gay marriage decision.” Reuters.com. Retrieved from
McDurmon, J. (2012, May 23). “Obama loses 25 percent of likely voters over homosexual stance.” Country Citizen. Retrieved from
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CubsFan,
Perhaps in your mind, but certainly not in reality.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
Look at the "tossup" states. Romney leads ONLY in NC and MO. Obama has 247 electoral votes on which he can count, meaning he only needs to find another 23 to win, Romney has to find another 89 and the 25 he'd get from MO and NC just won't cut it.
Would you prefer a more conservative source? Here's Rasmussen's Electoral map;
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard
The only difference with Rasmussen is they've gone ahead and ceded NC and MO to Romney.
California here we come lmao
California is where Romney's headed come the second week of November, his home.
VADem, the only thing your link proves is the importance of the six toss up states. Four of those six were mentioned in the article I gave you as potential losses for Obama.
Gem, don't forget to throw in Scranton, PA!
VIRGINIA, I agree. I simply don't comprehend this Republican obsession with electing a "busniessman" as if this was the cure to all the world's ills. As you mentioned, the only two I can think of are Hoover and Dubya, touted as our first "MBA" president and a muck he made of it.
Conversely, the Democrat that Republicans just love to love, (how that he's deceased) Harry Truman, was a failed small business owner. Their patron saint, The Gipper was not a businessman, nor was Nixon, Ford or Eisehhower and yet they mention all these names in hushed, reverential tones. I do wonder how they rationalize all this?
CubsFan,
You did indeed mention four of those states as potential losses for Obama. That doesn't mean they actually are, that just means you said they are. Anyone can write a blog that says anything they want, does that make it true? You do word your case quite eloquently, your logic, however, is flawed. Every American knows Obama's stance on gay marriage, and for those who claim it gives them a less favorable view of him, you haven't show any data to suggest that those people would potentially voted for him anyway. The polls still show Obama leading in all but NC and MO. The only large state where Romney actually stands a chance is Florida, and their 29 votes still won't be enough. As for Virginia, no incumbent president has EVER lost VA after having won it in the previous election and all the data suggests that it's not likely to change this year.
INTREPID,
They like to talk about the "Gipper" UNTIL you quote his words or cite his policy, then, they'd rather talk about something else. You know, like him giving 3 million illegals 100% blanket amnesty or his all to familiar 1986 speech about how millionaires and billionaires don't pay their fair share of taxes, even quoting a letter from a wealthy businessman who complained about his secretary paying more in taxes than he did.
lol CubsFan, yes lovely Scranton. They are now being bullied by the unions. What a mess.
Did anyone else suffer through Jindal's response to the State Of the Union a couples years ago? How does this guy have any credibility?
Live by the lie, die by the lie, bye bye R-money!
THEO, Oh yes. It was intensely underwhelming, to put it mildly.
I loved his background. Stairway, hall, but the speach was "priceless." What a waste.
Dream all you want, but in the end he picks Rubio. He doesn't have a choice.
Not with Romney's ego. He'd never pick a person that outshines himself. Expect his pick to be very bland. Milk-taost, if you will. My prediction is that Romney's pick will cause all of America to shrug their shoulders and say "Eh."
Honestly, I don't think the GOP establishment is really expecting Romney to win.
Obama is the egomaniac. He fooled ALOT of people last election (myself included), and he continues to fool alot of people i.e. VaDem lol.
Libs must love seeing people in poverty. America has the highest poverty level in 47 years. Isn't that wonderful? Yes, more more more! Vote Obama, it could be, and will be, ALOT worse.
People have learned a lot in the last three and a half years. I think the hardcore few that are left like VADem are going to be surprised how things turn out in November.
Don't give up the fight yet, Sugar. This is still the greatest country out there. Freedom is never free, and we're the generation that has to defend it and hold onto it to pass onto the next generation. It takes work and patience and dedication, but there's still enough of us out there who have those things. Without people like you and Ben and the others we see on here, this country would be nothing but a collection of sheep led to the slaughter. Those voices in the dark can't ever give up and can't ever forget how important they are.
It's people like you who keep this country's chances alive, Gem.
German,
I know that people like yourself immediately discount any argument that puts the blame where it belongs, on the blunders of the previous administration, but that doesn't make it any less true. It's near impossible to immediately stop a sinking ship from sinking any farther, but that doesn't stop Republicans from expecting that of President Obama. Had McCain (what a joke) won in 2008, we would be in a lot worse shape today, he would have let that ship sink to the ocean floor. GM wouldn't have hired back all the workers they did, in fact, they likely wouldn't still exist, nothing would have been done about healthcare (yeah, tell us again how great it was before) and we'd likely be elbow deep in a new war in the middle east.
I'd rather take predictions from someone who knows that "a lot" is two words.
Great post CubsFan:) Hopefully Americans wake up by November. This country will not survive 4 more years of the liberal progressive agenda.
Blame game over VaDem. I have NEVER heard a POTUS blame a previous adminstration like Obama has. Its pathetic.
CubsFan,
Come on, now you're just being silly.
You've based your opinion on your own personal emotions about President Obama. Mine is not an opinion, merely a presentation of facts and data. The fact is that Romney has no viable path to 270 electoral votes. Speculate all you want, but that won't change the math. Obama doesn't need to do nearly as well as he did in 2008 to win this election. Sure, there are more people upset with him today than in 2008, but, the data shows that those people live in solid red states and thus, pose no threat to his reelection. So what id Obama only gets 35% in Texas instead of the 43.8% he got in 2008? Does that change anything? Of course not.
You haven't shown any real data to support your optimism. I have.
Funny to see you've got yourself a little cheerleader there. (She doesn't make any of your claims any more true either)
As for her assertion that she's never heard a president blame the previous administration so much before, all I can say is that no president has ever inherited such a mess from a predecessor of an opposing party before. Obviously presidents have left messes for the next administration, like Nixon, but typically passed them off to members of the same party and it's just faux pas to criticize your own party.
Bauchmann all the way or nothing.
Vote R'money
Because in this country everyone is about the $$
Sigh. More demonizing the rich by the Left?
Michael Moore, George Soros, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, Bill Gates. What do they all have in common besides the fact that they're billionaires (the last three alone are worth 182 billion)? They're all Democrats.
The top seven wealthiest senators are all Democrats. If you compare their combined worth to the worth of the top seven wealthiest republicans, Democrats are richer by a margin of 4 to 1.
Money makes the world go round. Too bad Obama squandered all of ours.
CUBS, Please explain for me why it is "class warfare" when working class people call out the rich on the incredibile inequities which exist in the system and dramatically favor the wealthy? And yet your party has no problem demonizing the poor and people like Paul Ryan want to grant even bigger breaks to the rich and then balance the budget on the backs of the poor, the elderly and the disabled.
You do know what the noted Socialist/Commie Warren Buffett said. "There's class warfare alright, but it's my class, the rich class, that's been waging the war, and what's more, we're winning it".
GEM, Can you do me a huge favor and stop puking up these empty headed, inane posts about Democrats loving to create more poor people or saying that Obama squandered all of our money. It would be nice if you adhered to facts once in a while.
Allow me to remind you. The worst economic downturn since the Great Depression (also brought to us courtesy of the GOP) happened on Bush's watch. All your distortions in the world will not make that fact go away. Clinton handed Bush a healthy economy and a nation at peace. 8 years later Bush handed off to Obama 2 unpaid for, unending wars and an economy in free fall. And you want to blame Obama for running up the deficit? Perhaps you've forgotten how bad things were 4 to 5 years ago but I sure as hell have not.
The FACTS are the National Taxpayer Debt increased by almost $6,000,000,000,000.00 and our economy is trashed, food stamp recipients increased from 22 million to 46 million, unemployment has been above 8% for 40 months. I guess this is the direction libs want to go. So YES, libs must love poverty.
INTREPID,
I wonder if the Republicans thought it was class warfare when Ronald Reagan was saying the same things that president Obama is about the rich taking advantage of loopholes and not paying their fair share?
Oh, those poor little billionaires. People keep picking on them. If only they had tons and tons of money to console them.... Oh, wait.......
The "Germ" just can't help herself, regurgitating same old fox baloney, she and the some of the other posters, conveniently forget 8+ years of Bush's reign bring the United States to a near catastrophic depression. Are you folks forgetting about the bogus war when nearly 5,000 Americans came home in body bags, or the Haliburton no Bid Contracts, enron, the drowning of New Orleans, bank failures, home foreclosures up the wazoo, Lobbyist Abramoff having unfettered access to the highest levels of government,TARP with no strings attached, nearly 700,000 jobs hemorrhaging monthly. All this and more during the glorious reign of W. The President can't do anything with a No to everything congress, the Do Nothing Party agenda was to defeat the President from the get go, McConnell said it himself. Of course the republicans want a so called business vulture capitalist to run the US it will be more for them to accumulate from the middle class and poor. It's easy to go after the most vulnerable in our society.
Paul Ryan? God has answered my prayers.
Paul Ryan as VP pick would be the answer to my prayers (if I believed in a magic sky wizard.) Obama will most certainly win, but Ryan being on the ticket would make so much easier.
When did you become an atheist and why, VirginiaDem?
I'm not an atheist. I just don't believe in "God." That's not to say that I think there isn't a superior being somewhere in the universe, I just think he's a little more "flesh and blood" than a magic sky wizard.
When did I come to this decision, that the "God" of the bible isn't real? After an extensive study of the bible. I found that it did not speak to me (not literally, of course, that would be crazy.) That is to say, it didn't make it's case, was not convincing. But the real kicker for me is to read the words of Jesus, then look at his flock. I see that not even "Christians" take most of his words seriously. They have their "Sunday morning lives" then they have their real lives and the two couldn't be more dissimilar.
Also, the title of "Atheist" typically insinuates that one is active in the pursuit of an anti-religous agenda. I'm perfectly happy with things as they are. If "God" makes you feel better about life, then by all means, you should have him.
It's always been my belief that religion does serve a purpose. It was invented to answer the questions that, at the time, science could not. Today, we are getting most of those answers, and they contradict what religions teach. I'll go with what evidence shows to be true, not what some old book, written by men, says I should believe. Especially when it defies logic and reason.
Heading off for the night, folks. See you all Monday. Night, Gem. :) Je t'aime tres beaucoup. xoxo
Then I'm leaving too:) Good night:)
A cheerleader doesn't serve much purpose without her star player, huh? lol
The "Germ" leaving, be still my heart. Good soldier that she is.
Obama 2012
Quick, someone, look up the definition of corruption. They have a picture of Louisiana. Not blaming Jindal. The state has long been noted for the corruption that starts at the lowest level and easily works its way all the way to the statehouse. It is also a very poor state. Childhood poverty is endemic. Unemployment is high. The standard of living is very low. From what I've seen, Jindal has done nothing to change either problem. Plus, Jindal is probably one of the worst orators I've ever seen in public office. If he gets tapped, there won't be anyone on the ticket who can give a decent speech.