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J. Scott Applewhite / AP
Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – Paul Ryan’s got a friend in Bobby Jindal.
Jindal, governor of Louisiana, told an audience of conservative activists on Saturday that presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney would send a “powerful message” on budgetary issues were he to choose Ryan, Wisconsin’s U.S. House representative, as his running mate.
The remarks came as Jindal – a buzzed-about veep prospect himself – wrapped up a keynote address to the Red State Gathering in Jacksonville, an annual conference of Tea Party and other conservative activist groups.
"I think picking somebody like a Paul Ryan would send a very powerful message that this administration was serious about Medicare reform, entitlement reform, shrinking the size of government, and doing so in a courageous way," Jindal said of a Romney presidency.
Ryan is chairman of the House Budget Committee and the author of a controversial plan that Democrats have attacked over its cuts to federal entitlement programs.
Romney, who won Ryan’s endorsement in March, has spoken favorably of the plan, pleasing conservatives who have helped to make Ryan’s name a nationwide brand.
Still, some at the conference here clearly had another veepstaker in mind.
“I was going to God bless you and pray that our nominee has you and your first lady on the list to be vice president,” an audience member said as Jindal took questions.
Jindal, brushing aside the compliment, responded that he has a “bias” toward the executive experience earned by governors, before adding that Ryan is an exception to that rule.
Asked later if he was making an endorsement of a Romney-Ryan ticket, Jindal said no.
“It’s certainly not my place to be making endorsements. I mean, it’s really up to Governor Romney to pick who he wants,” Jindal told NBC News. “I just think Paul Ryan brings a lot to the table.”
“Paul's a friend. Paul's been a great leader. I think he’s an example of a great choice,” Jindal added later. “I think there are several other examples of great candidates out there as well.”
Jindal earlier told the crowd that he also admired Florida Gov. Rick Scott and Texas Gov. Rick Perry– whom Jindal backed for president during the Republican primaries.
Perry, who dropped out of the race in January, announced for president at last year’s Red State Gathering, held in Charleston, S.C.
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Oh yes. Puhleeze, do this. Ryan for Vice President. Makes it way more clear what Romney plans on doing to the middle class, poor, and infirm.
Rob them BLIND!
Oh please, oh please, oh please.... Obama the moderate must have done something wonderful in a past life to get Failin Palin and then Paul "kill medicare" Ryan....
Palin and then Ryan. That would be like winning the Powerball Lottery, Mega Millions Lottery, a state lottery, getting hit by lightning and surviving for Obama. GOP go ahead and piss off the people on Medicare. They're about the only one you haven't pissed off beside the TEA Party.
Paul Ryan brings a lot <of baggage> to the table.
Please, pick Ryan Hood who wants to end Medicare as we know it -- Paul Ryan who is just as unqualified to step into the office of the presidency as Romney is. Imagine, neither could take that 3:00 am call!
Personally, I want to see the exorcist, Bobby "castles made of sand fall into the sea eventually" Jindal as Willard's VP pick!
Paul Ryan? The guy who wants to end Medicare and make seniors more beholden to Insurance companies in their old age? Who'd like to privatize social security and give it to the Criminal Banksters? Who wants to make the Bush Tax Cuts for the Wealthy Permanent, even though it'll add trillions to the deficit he rails against?
Sure, Romney. Pick him.
this man is a total fraud, he believes God gave him power to rid people of devils, he worked for a company Keeison, on how to design a system to deny insurance benefits, he is dismantling the charity hospital system of Louisiana, and his name is not bobby it is p[punchier, he is a total nut, best of all he believes the earth is only 6000 years old and dinosaurs were put here by the devil to confuse people.
Patriot...
No one could be more unqualified than Obama.
Ending Medicare as we know it might be a good idea. It is broke. I am sure you have heard.
You are 100% right Saxon. That is what makes Piyush Jindal the perfect VP candidate. Sarah Palin set the bar pretty high but I think the exorcist clears it!
old fat guy-1144960 -- Try to be at least somewhat credible, and provide specifics, and put some meat on those specifics. We aren't falling for the Romney-esque Vagaries and "I'll get back to you on that" and "you'll just have to trust me on that" deflections -- With that fake hehehe laugh of his when asked about his taxes because he knows his taxes are unethical and un-American.
Aside from President Obama devoting his life to public service, studying constitutional law, serving in the state legislature and Senate, and now with a four year term as president with many achievements during that time (like getting bin Laden & Qaddafi, saving the auto industry, creating more jobs in his one term than Dubya created in two years combined, etc., etc.) -- Holy cow Romney's trip proved *business experience* doesn't automatically translate to being a statesman, POTUS, Commander inf Chief, and leader of the free world.
Anyone who would change horses mid-stream during this time of global crises to a dressage horse for show would have to be a delusional RWNJ like you.
The little Nazi couldn't be a better pick.
Romney and Paul Ryan. The gifts that keep on giving to the Democrats and Obama's reelection campaign. The two evil dwarfs.
Medicare broke? Is that what Lush Rimbaugh said one night old fat guy? If you are really old and fat why would you take such delight in "bankrupt" programs such as this that have saved many lives of older people who couldn't afford exorbitant health care rates, and who have been able to live a decent life since Medicare passed in the 1960s. You either are so miserable and heartless that you like the idea of Medicare going broke whic is by the way totally a lie, even if it shortens your worthless life, or you are so wealthy you can pay cash for heart transplantss and other medical procedures necessarily growing in importance as people age. Okay for you to life to Methusaleh's age but not anyone else, right. If they don't have the wealth to hire legions of doctors and surgeons like you and Dick C heney then they don't deserve to live, right? Dirtbag.
Patriot...
You forgot to list how many times he blames Bush. I am sure there is a source for it someplace
I am certain when Obama loses, (and he will lose) he will blame Bush.
Nobody ever mentions it when the debate if you can call it that turnss to Medicare. People on Medicare DO NOT GET FREE insurance at the other taxpayers' experience. Every person when he turns 65 is automatically enrolled on Medicare Part A which is just hospitalization and major medical at 80 percent paid by gov. To get Part B of Medicare, which is for diagnostics, doctors visits, etc you must pay a required premium that is automatically deducted from the social security retirement check of each person. Last I heard it was $120 permonth for m ore recent Medicare enrollees, I pay (or lose from my monthly retirement check) $100 a month. That ain't an entitlement program on the backs of the current taxpayers. I pay for my insurance. Also, I have a supplemental insurance policy to take care of the co-pay and the other parts of medical bills that Medicare Part A or B won't cover. that is another $99 per month, and believe me, I am not rich. On top of that, there's the Drug Prescription plan that we are coerced into signing up for when eligible (i.e. eligible for Medicare) because if we don't sign up when first eligible, a pentalty will be added to the premium for this if we sign up later. That's the Bush era health care plan, wihcih nobody seems to know about or talk about except us folks who find ot the hard way. All this "free" medical care is not "free." And the person pays a lot of it out of his or her meager social security retirement check.
old fat guy Man are you going to eat crow the day after the election. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. It may come up and bite you in the ass. LOL
Debbie...
You are a typical liberal, when facts go against you just get ugly.
All these wonderful medical procedures we have the ability to perform cost money. It is a shame but that money MUST come from someplace. We can make changes to Medicare and Social Security or we can kick the can down the road until the tax rate is 100% to cover half of it and then what.
I prefer to put the name calling aside and have an adult conversation about a very real problem.
Are you capable?
Old Fat Guy, you are the loser. And always have been. Enjoy your delusions that Mitless (or Twit) Romney will win along with his VP who is sure to be as bad or worse for the country, as long as you can because You, Romney and company are going to lose big-time in 2012.
"Booby" Jindal is a dufass and just piles on more SNL material. He and Romney represent why the GOP party is so far gone and the republican base support has left forever.........
Some of you folks are sure getting upset; with all your immature language its hard to glean any actual commentary.
I suspect that the closer to november the nastier some people will get.
Romney-2012
Save America!
Romney / Whoever 2012
↑ Couldn't agree more.
Paul Ryan is a worthless piece of ???? He is an embarrassment to the state of Wisconsin and his protection of the millionaires and billionaires in America.. He wouldn't know what it is like to be a middle class Wisconsinite and we would be glad to get rid of the piece of s///.
Put Ryan on the ticket, Florida will go to Obama, and it's game over right then and there for Romney.
Romney needs to run the table on the swing states, to get the electoral votes he needs, if Obama takes Florida's electoral votes he wins. Romney, Rubio, Ryan or whoever should be down in Florida giving old people sponge baths, not threatening to take away their medicare.
Well, ya know, when the shoe fits...
EEngineer,
Everybody who doesn't watch FOX blames the bushwhacker!
Everybody knows on both sides, that if the GOP had their way, medicare would be gone. Social Security would be privatized and most Americans will be thrown under the bus for their Masters.
GOP doesn't work for you. Wake up and listen to them, that are telling you in plain language that you do not matter.
Where are your tax returns Romney? What are you hiding?
Bush personally never felt that the shoe fit, but that's because he was always trying to put his shoes on the wrong feet.
Hard to put shoes on when your feet are in your mouth.
The Ryan Budget wants to make Medicare into a Voucher (Vulture) Program. Mitt the Vulture like it.
Vultures of a feather flock.
Paul Ryan brings a lot to the table by taking things from other peoples' tables.
TP -
Why do libs assign / imply some type of nobility to being a politician?
Can it not be said that Vladamir Putin, Su Tseng-chang .... Bashar al-Assad have devoted their lives to"public service?"
Too abstract, huh .... how about Cheney?
Or is public service only noble when dems are the pols?
Harry Reid? Harry has been a humble public servant practically his whole life ... and where did those millions in wealth come from?
Or is it just Obama?
So, what is noble about convincing parasites they are victims ... promising the victims of the rich, stuff - at no cost to himself - simply to gain more votes that provide him a life style second to no one in the world?
Which is different than learning anything, different than actually understanding the Constitution as the Supreme Court recently exposed.
And how did that turn out? How is sweet home Chicago doing? Over 200,000 leaving Chicago alone the past decade due to over-taxation, over-regulation - creating a climate that neither attracts nor even keeps businesses and productive people?
Tearing down and boarding up vacant buildings to deny gangs storage for their guns and ammo caches in the Murder Capital of the World - a city that will lose more Americans to gangs this year than the total number of Americans lost in 8 years in Afghanistan under Bush to the Taliban and al-Quaeda!
Great legacy, huh?
The intelligence community, Admiral McRaven and SEAL Team 6 got bin Laden. The Obama administration unbelievably outed SEAL Team 6 ... and Obma in his military naivety - spiked the football ... did an end-zone dance ... scheduled his own victory parade and ... 22 members of SEAL Team 6 get killed 4 months later in a planned ambush. Worst loss in SEAL History. Pretty horrible trade to me.
Qaddafi? And what was the national interest? Didn't Obama say we were in a support role ... wasn't it a NATO effort put together by the UK and French to protect their oil interests?
GM? Is that the apple pie and "See the USA in a Chevrolet" American auto company that after receiving $49.5 billion in tax payer money to bail out Obama's union machine and buddies (making twice what the national average hourly worker makes) now employees 65% of its workforce overseas? On top of that, they don't have to pay ("their fair share of") taxes for years and years and years - $14-$40 BILLION tax credit compliment's of Obama's contempt of bankruptcy law.
Ford take their Obama Money? Obama save Ford?
Chrysler? Is that the same American car company - that was bailed out with American tax payer money - that is now owned by Italians?
Some save, huh?
Nice statistical cherries you picked there. Regardless ... 8 million jobs were created during the Bush terms before the crash (which was an unrelated credit issue relating back to Clinton).
At Obama's current rate of job growth, it will take another 4 years (for Seeking: that means 8 total years - 4 + 4 = 8) just to reach the number of employed in 2007! (for Seeking: that is when Bush was the prez).
Actually, the trip Obama has taken America on the last 3 1/2 years ... (goes without saying, or make your own joke)
The poor community organizer guy cannot even organize his own community of dems - he cannot even lead one dem to vote for one of budgets!
Other than the above, and the rest of the crap in your comment that wasn't worth responding to, Great Comments TP.
Ryan brings nothing of substance to the political arena, nor to the American people.
This is what Ryan has brought "to the table:" Ryan was caught with a $700.00 bottle of wine at a restaurant. The wine was going to be paid for by an economist - until a news journalist recognized Ryan and his "expensive sip." When he realized that he was recognized Ryan quickly decided to pay for the $700.00 dip. While believing that our seniors should be without Medicare and health care, Ryan feels he deserves the most expensive booze.
If the Tea Party is successful in annihilating the middle class and the poor, who will "prop up" the 1%?
If the Tea Party is serious about reducing "entitlements," they should start by making Romney pay his fair share of U.S. taxes.
When liberal democrats disagree they collapse your comments even when you do not stoop to fourth grade name calling.
No wonder America is in the shape she is.
BARRACK OBAMA...FAILED LEADERSHIP...ONE AND GONE....
Old Far Guy,
From one old fart to another. You need to get some education man. Of course, if you're in the 1% all the things that the conservatives want to do makes sense. Ryan's call for the end of Medicare and Medicaid will leave me in the cold, but then it probably won't affect you and the millions who will have nothing to worry about due to wealth? Right!
If I had the worthless piece of Louisiana trash Jindal, speaking for something I would automatically be against it!
#1.31 Excellent response Bob....well written.
Bob,
Your world view is exactly what destroyed our economy and possibly our democracy. Before the actions of Nixon and the hateful rhetoric of Reagan the wonder of the USA was our government and our institutions. Politicians since Andrew Jackson have used political influence and insider trading to become wealthy beyond the dreams of most men thus is the nature of some men. Corrupt politicians have made money on their positions since the time of the pharaohs but unlike others we have always had the ability to replace them and prosecute them. When we failed was when Americans on the heels of Vietnam and Nixon an old B actor convinced the nation that our government was evil and useless and that we should vilify public service and admire greed and avarice. Reagans administration being the most corrupt in US history making Harding's and Grant's look ethical showpieces were a self fulfilling prophecy on bad governance. Designed and implemented by the Heritage Foundation their laissez faire, caveat emptor economics has destroyed the American middle class and impoverished millions. The solutions Romney calls for if implemented would destroy the US economy turning the American middle class into serfs.
Romney's tax plan 20% across the board would further reduce revenues from 21%of GDP in 2000 when we were paying our bills and the 15% left after the Bush tax cuts to 12% of GDP effectively bankrupting the nation. This doesn't even factor in his elimination of inheritance tax which only benefits the top 5% and doubling down to the same 5% by reducing or eliminating all corporate taxation. His tax cuts which equal approximately 250 billion dollars per year or 1 trillion in 4 years would put over 850 billion in the pockets of the top 10% and 150 billion into the hands of the remaining 90%. Under no economic forecast can this possibly work it is Reagan/Bush on mushrooms. See the non partisan Tax Foundation or the Tax Policy Center for their analysis. This doesn't count the elimination of medicare, medicaid and privatizing social security.
We have been relentlessly been bombarded by the Right as to how our form of government is corrupt and needs to be drowned, have 2nd amendment solutions applied and water the tree of liberty with blood. The course advocated by Reagan and his enablers is the singular most un-american action in our nations history. We need a hell of a lot more community organizers and a hell of a lot less corporate raiders and believe it or not higher wages are good for all Americans not just auto workers. The GOP 100 year hatred of the working man has brainwashed millions into voting against their own economic self interests.
jkh
The funny part about your statement is that Pres Obama had far less experience to be elected to the Presidency than any President before him.
Living your life in public service doesn't necessarily qualify you for the Presidency. Depends greatly on what type of service that is. Besides, Obama did not live "his life" in public service. His public service record was 7 yrs as a State Senator and 3 yrs as US Senator, a total of 10 yrs. He taught at the Univ of Chicago as a Lecturer for 12 years. The rest of the time he was either working as a Community organizer for private/charitable organizations or he was attending school. So that isn't his "life", maybe a little over 1/2 of his career years was spent in the Public Sector prior to running for office. Teaching is far from a qualification to be President. Being a Senator is iffy, they have no administrative experience like Governors do. Most are Attorney's who never worked for a company, never ran a company and never were a Governor which is one of the reasons they rarely get elected to the President. Lets remember prior to Obama, Kennedy was the last US Senator to be elected President, 48 years! Lets face it, you didn't vote for President Obama because of his experience or lack thereof, you voted for him because he was a liberal democrat.
Grant you Obama has resume experience "now" running the Presidency, but by no means did he have close to the experience when he ran for the 2008 election that Romney has today. No matter how people try to use his experience now, it is a double standard, he didn't have the experience in 2008. Yet he was voted in. Besides, even with Pres Obama's experience today, Romney still has far more experience running the office beginning as a child of a very successful Governor and US Senator. A Masters & Doctor of law degree from Harvard, a CEO which took the company from a financial crisis to one of the largest firms in the world, President & CEO of the Salt Lakes Olympics Committee, and Governor for 4 years.
Does all this mean Romney will be better than President Obama? Who knows, no one knows about a candidate until they get the job and start working. But what we do know is, it certainly cannot get any worse then it is right now. Remember Obama stated if he couldn't fix it in 4 years he didn't deserve another term. He hasn't fixed it, it is still worse then when he came into office, and we need to abide by what he stated when he ran for office the last time. Vote him out.
Gosh .... It was Reagan?
And I always thought it was Thomas Paine in his Common Sense that stated society is a blessing, but government even in its best state is a necessary evil, in its worst an intolerable one.
If the founding dads thought the federal government was so wonderful, why is the Constitution more than anything, a document that limits the power of that very same federal government?
Why would they think it is useless if they call it a "necessary" evil and lay out specific needs and responsibilities of the federal government?
You really have no clue or understanding of America, its Constitution .... why our founded fathers "watered the tree of liberty with (their) blood?"
Pathetic.
But don't feel bad .... Obama has no clue or understanding either.
BTw -
Actually Bush's revenues reached 18.5% of GDP.
Obama is the one with the pathetic 15% number.
Effectively bankrupting the nation?
Bush had revenue in 2007 of $2.568 trillion with spending of $2.728 trillion for a deficit of $160.7 billion.
Obama had revenue in 2011 of $2.173 trillion with spending of $3.818 trillion for a deficit of $1.645 trillion – 10 TIMES Bush’s deficit!
And while we are at it, here are the actual numbers from the OMB on Bush's tax cuts ...
Clinton’s best year, 2000, generated revenue of $2.025 trillion.
(After Bush’s tax cuts in 2003 had time to take effect:)
Bush’s revenue in 2005 was $2.153 trillion. 6% above Clinton’s best year.
Bush’s revenue in 2006 was $2.406 trillion. 16% above Clinton’s best.
Bush’s revenue in 2007 was $2.568 trillion. 21% above Clinton’s best.
Bush’s revenue in 2008 was $2.524 trillion. 20% above Clinton’s best.
Jim Hayes-375865 -- I understand bob replied to one of my posts, but I have him on ignore. So thanks for providing a rebuttal to whatever BS he spewed.
bob, run along to TheBlaze.
Ryan does bring a lot to the table. Likely, enough to break the already shoddy table. Wet bullsh^t piled upon the dry weedy clumps that are Romney's contraption's, will not spread evenly enough, to provide proper coverage to come close to winning this election.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Paul Ryan. He wants to privatize Social Security and Medicare. Follow the money. Ryan is a corporate whore taking money from all of the corporations that stand to make hundreds of billions of dollars off of privatization. It doesn't matter if his voucher system for Medicare is still to costly for almost all elderly. It doesn't matter that putting people into private pension plans is putting them in harms way after Wall street raped, pillaged and plundered the private pensions leading into the 2008 recession.
Paul Ryan as VP will stimulate a huge backlash from the elderly and near elderly.
Romney and Ryan would be a white house of, by and for the richest Americans only.
Go ahead Mitt, pick Paul Ryan. I dare you.
Jindal is a about as worthless as Paul Ryan is. Both a sack of s///!
Pleeeese pick Jindal! He is (further) ruining Louisiana! His goal is to abolish all forms of public education, from kindergarten through graduate school. He did a real number on my son's elementary school. As if Louisiana needed help producing uneducated people.
@ helicohunter: get in line. I'm writing a letter to Romney, asking that he pick Rick Snyder from Michigan. Snyder lost trying to push a bridge to Canada, that he wanted (but didn't ask the people). Last week, he lost his Emergency
DictatorManager act. And he seems to be fighting with even his own party on many issues. Plus he'll always be known for lowering corporate taxes....by raising taxes on seniors. (That seems to be a republican standard play, I guess.)Snyder came in, in 2010 on the 'I'm a businessman' promise. He's over his head...and slowly finding out that politics doesn't work the same as when he was a CEO. Oh well....he'll learn sooner or later.
Paul Ryan would be a gift to the Democrats. Then we'd have two people running dead set against the middle class interests.
It is not a few guys that manage to become billionaires that defines America, it is the middle class. Without it we are just another third world look-a-like.
JIndal is praying, "Please not me, don't want to be associated with sinking Mittanic".
You old fool. Do you even still know how to read? I clearly wrote from my personal experience (I doubt you are writing from yours, for all I know you are still 13 years old and know nothing about the world), Medicare premiums are paid by the elderly who have medicare. If you have only Part A which is only an 80 percent payent by govt should you be hospitalized, you must pay the 20 percent remaining oa huge hospital bill. The person on Medicare pays a $100-$120 per month Part B premium...what do you want? To take someone's home and bone marrow to shoulder all the catastrophic costs of medicare for those who need it. Would you be willing to die to forgo Medicare paying any part (even a measly 80 percent) of your hospital bill? You talk as if you know absolutely nothing about it, either fromo experience or studying both sides of the issue, the pros and cons. Or is that beyond you? If you get all your talking points form Lush or the other crypto Nazis then that is why you spout your one-sided stupidity. Why not hae the oil companies and the agribusinesses forgo their unnessary tax ladvantages that Obama has tried to get thru time and again? They don't even need them. Let them help with this so-called hysterically manufactureed credit and debit crisis that you GOP righties so love to harp upon as iof there is no way to live except by giving all your money away to "debt" and then, live on air? I don't think you are rich I think you are a wannabe and are delusional enough to think Mittens is going to get you there, if elected. Dream on. Small time troll is excactly what you are.
The poster boy for Anchor Baby's is bobbie jindal. The rightwing always complains about Anchor Baby's. Look a Anchor Baby is a leader in there party. Ironic. His Parents came from a non christian country a investigation should be in order.
Anchor Babies Ahoy, we have Romney, Rubio, Haley, Jindal...
and HUSSEIN
Debbie ...
I am far past 13 and for your information "ALL" wage earners contribute to Medicare via payroll taxes every week.
Payroll taxes and premiums paid by old folks still come up way way short of covering the bills.
Try putting away the trash talking and get yourself educated about what you are trying to talk about.
Tony,
If you are insinuating that President Obama is an "anchor baby" you seem to forget that he was born to an American citizen.
And his father was not an immigrant, he was a student here temporarily.
Yeah we all pay into it every week. So what? I pay into the idiotic wars Bush/Cheney started too. Ask me which one I'd rather fund. Go ahead.
Talk about cherry picking facts. You want to get rid of anything that helps any one and funnel all of the tax dollars straight back to Big Business to cover their agendas.
Why don't you rail about the pentagon and the outsourcing of our wars? Not clever enough to get how your rich buddies are raping this country and trying to take away the tiny little bit given to the tax payers?
You ought to consider adding "out of touch' to your handle.
old fat guy,
Because the cash-soaked rich refuse to pay their taxes, our treasury has lost trillions of dollars in revenue. If GE had paid taxes on its 5.3 billion dollar American profit, our deficit would decrease. GE is just one of many conglomerates that does not pay any U.S. taxes.
...lay the accountability where it belongs.
25 Walker
You can tax the rich at 100% and still have a deficit in one year.
America has a spending problem... WAKE UP...
mj...
Quit whining about Bush and Cheney. Those wars are now Obama's wars
Old fat guy,
When Eisenhower was president, the corporate tax rates were as high as 90%. During his years as president, America saw prosperity. Johnson initiated the War on Poverty programs. Johnson's initiatives still did not put America at the "bottom of the financial well." It was in 1980 that this country started its "economic list."
Undeserved largesse to the wealthy does not help our "GOP created" financial collapse.
Open your eyes to the selfish and failed policies of the right.
Interesting comment, since GE backed BO...and still does. The number 1 outsourcing company based in USA is GE, and they backed this administration...go figure.
You idiot liberals - Paul Ryan would be vastly better than anyone the left has to offer. I would love to see him debate Biden. And he isn't talking about doing away with Medicare. He is talking about reforming it. We have a huge problem as a country that the current administration is failing to address, and that is spending. If we don't make changes, and soon, we are going to be in serious trouble. Borrowing 40% of federal spending now - - in 3 years it will be 50%. When are you all going to wake up? Go ahead, increase taxes on "the wealthy." Won't help decrease the deficit at all.
Changing Medicare to a "voucher" system that doesn't keep up with the cost of medical premiums is not "reforming" Medicare, it is killing it slowly. I have an idea ... let's put the members of Congress on a voucher system and let them shop for coverage as individuals. If, after 10 years, they don't have problems finding coverage, then we can discuss converting Medicare.
Quit whining about Bush and Cheney.
Hey Old Fat Guy -- you have a short memory. From 1976 to 1992 the right whined and cried, moan and groaned and complained and complained more and bitched, carried on and on and blamed President Carter of everything wrong in the entire universe. Then from 1992 to 2008 you whined and cried, moan and groaned and complained and complained more and bitched, carried on and on and blamed President Clinton for everything that was wrong in the entire universe. So – using the standard you set – the left has another 29 years to blame Bush for everything just to pull even with you.
Old fat guy,
Logistically and successfully, it is not possible for Obama to suddenly bring home thousands of American troops. Additionally, what about the infrastructure of the country's that the troops would be leaving? Your "analysis" is absurd. You are trying to "run away" from the fact that the right put us into this mess.
He has had four years or are you saying our troops have a mission you now agree with?
old fat guy,
In the 7 years preceding Obama, we became entrenched in 2 wars. Obama has made sizable troop reductions and brought many of our service women and men home. If you can "unwind" 7 years of warfare in just 3 1/2 years, please let the military know. The military would welcome your "solutions."
We all know that the right loves "peace."
Ryan vs. the bumbling fool Biden in the debates? Can't wait for that must see tv! I'm getting those Chris Matthews chills.
Oh the VP debates won't matter, Obama will destroy Mitt "$10,000 bet" Romney it won't even be funny.
Plus, who do you think America will side with, Biden who rode a train to work every day and understands blue collar America or Paul Ryan wants to destroy Medicare and still increase the deficit???
VP Biden will handle himself quite well during the debate. The GOP are nothing but are a bunch of incompetent fools. Any of these vp prospects will be easy for Biden to pick apart, for he is a man who is not about to give any of them a free pass with their double talking BS.
Joe Biden is not the media.
He has been a terrific vice president, quite different from Cheney.
Paul Ryan would only parrot squawking points in a debate, are you kidding? If a moderator made him go off message, it would be almost as bad as Mitt.
Excellent post as always, Pat!
And perfectly and simply stated as well.
I'm starting to think that you folks are really tying one on tonight.
elliot, aren't you having a few with your little buddy German Gem???? Going to go look at some stats together??? She's all about numbers .... enjoy!
Hahahahaha! Oh wait, he's serious!
You wanna talk about bumbling fools? How about Romney with his tour of Europe? How many gaffes is one man allowed when running for president?
Hahahahahaha! Romney = bumbling fool!
Don't forget, these are the same people who thought 'deer in the headlights look', 'I'm not going to answer that question, I'm going to talk about . . . ' Sarah Palin beat Joe in their debate. No matter how bad Ryan does, they will think he was great, and wiped the floor with Vice-President Biden.
Personally, I'm looking forward to the debates to see the Republican/TP Inc. candidates make total fools of themselves. Both President Obama are wicked smart, articulate (Biden is articulate, sometimes he just articulates things he shouldn't), well educated, compassionate, and tough men. Robot Romney, and mealy mouthed little boy Ryan won't have a chance.
Matthew, Houston, TX ... A to the men ... AMEN!
Charlie,
Who really cares who is chosen for the VP position on a ticket. I mean, look at the Dems, they picked Joe Biden who doesn't make a hill of beans as to the policies of the Barry. Thank goodness nothing has happened to the Barry since good old Joe would be next in line. But then again, according to Boston Pat Biden is the second coming of the Barry!
Who really cares who is chosen for the VP position on a ticket.
Pat from Boston,
Biden different from the former VP...spot on!
Yea...raise taxes on the middle class and kill medicare. Really tough debatin' there...It really isn't much of a stretch to say they would destroy SSI if they had a chance, anyone who doesn't think so is a fool.
Anyone who doesn't agree with me is a fool. What a clever rhetorical gambit. I think I will use it every chance I get so that everyone will agree with me.
Just trying to get Bush's Social Security invested in the Market BS through the back door. Just like everything else the GOP does. If you can't get it through by small d democratic means or past the courts try the end around. Can't make abortion illegal--then make it impossible. Can't win the election-- suppress the other guys vote. If people don't want to agree your ideas -- Make up lies about religion, socialism, place of birth, etc etc etc
Kannin, "Address"s comments were not rhetoric, but facts, all spelled out in the "Ryan Plan" which Romney has said he agrees with.
Gee, and what an appealing platform for the middle class, elderly and other less-than-1 percenter rich voters in America: Cripple Medicare, Social Security, and raise taxes on the middle class? I see a lot of dead people or trolls from the Koch Brothers, et al being brought to the polls by the Greedy Old Party to vote for these losers and thieves on election day (those being Romney and whoever his runnin\ mate is.) Whoever agrees to be Romney's running mate cannot posssibley improve that ticket to become attractive to the masses of voters who don't happen to be deluded or utterly stupid. GOP better get busy with their voter suppression plans in all 50 states!! Got another election to steal, like in 2000.
To the people in the states where one must have a STATE issued PHOTO I.D. to vote: Please put some money aside, to get a birth certificate (with a seal on it, copies will not be accepted) It will cost $15 to $30. find out about other documents you will need to get the PHOTO I.D.The I.D. will cost $10 to $30.. That's a small price to pay when you think of all of the people who have died in streets of America trying to get the right to vote. In Australia one can be find for not voting in national election. While some states in America is trying to keep some people from voting. GET OUT AND VOTE!!!
The Republicans' agenda for the "majority of Americans" is crystal clear. The Republicans will keep our citizens in the "economic, political and social basement." There are many middle class and poor people running to vote for the right wing. These citizens are inflicting injury on themselves. Their actions are totaling baffling.
It's not the amount of the burden that is an issue. It is the very fact that there is a burden in the first place.
The 24th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly prohibits poll taxes for federal elections, and the Supreme Court eventually ruled that the amendment also applies to state elections (Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections in 1966).
Requiring voter ID in a way that imposes a financial constraint can be construed as an indirect poll tax. This means that any voter ID measure has to allow for a free ID issued by the state. I strongly suspect this would include requiring someone to have a birth certificate which they have to pay for, although I acknowledge that is more of a gray area.
IMO, the real shame is that even with minimal barriers, people still do not go out and vote. The average participation rate among eligible voters in a US presidential election (let alone midterm elections) is at best 60%. That is a disgrace from a country that prides itself on freedom. And yet, people complain when they don't like the government they have. How many people on this board moan, complain, and whine and yet didn't vote in the last presidential election? Or in 2010?
You liberal sissys are pretty good at half truths. Thats the best you can do. Facts do not favor democrats. They can only run negative adds as that is all they have. Romney will pick a VP and hope its a woman. If so, then president and the queen of travel are out of the big house. Can you imagine what I can pick out of Obamas 2700 page healthcare law and pretend thats all there is to it? But thats a democrat tactic.
What are these half truths you refer to?
jarhead, you must be rusty. Assuming you would recognize a fact if it bit ya in the arse, rightwingers can't handle the truth.
rusty
that was a nice rant...
however, this article is on Raul Ryan as a potential VP nominee..
now I know it is hard for you teapublicans to focus....but give it try!
btw - if Ryan is the nominee - it should be interesting for Mitt to jump on Obama for the bailout and the bailouts of GM and Chrysler..
Ryan vote "for" all three!
Gee, whiz. remember 2008? You had a woman running for VP with senile old John McCain? That didn't work too well for ya, did it? You Repugs think all women are alike, all men are alike, etc. etc. different only depending on party registeration. You people are so neanderthal I'd like to see if you DNA contains any remaining Cro-Magnons.......
Romney should be able to know if his pick is a woman, shouldn't he? Hoping's just not good enough.
Ahh, I see Theo-3270314 caught that too. I love it when they say that the candidates are 'running negative adds', too.
adds = a mathematical reference referring to addition (negative adds . . . hmm, sounds Freudian to me. LOL)
ads = referring to advertisements
Correct!!!. I wrote him a letter asking him not to support the bailouts. He wrote back admitting his constituents did not want him to vote for the bailouts, and yet he voted for all of them. The man wants to replace medicare with a discount coupon system and yet he wants to increase military spending. He is nuts!!!
HEY rusty, have you ever wondered why you are called Jarhead. Well it's not because your known to be a big thinker ! Go back and play with your TOY soldiers or watch some more FOX news and before all you wanna be patriots go nuts, I am a Veteran, I do respect our service men and women and I know the type that needs to announce to everyone that they are a JARHEAD . The VETS that really deserve RESPECT are not on here blowing their horn for attention.
Rusty says...
We don't have to imagine at all Rusty. Your Republican Brain Trust, aka Sarah Palin, didn't even go near the 2700 pages and created "DEATH PANELS" out of thin air and said they were in the new healthcare law.
You Republicans really need to forget about Ryan or Jindal and go with
You liberal sissys are pretty good at half truths.
Charlie,
Great post!
"Do Nothing" Republican Congress is VERY UNPOPULAR with America! Approval Rating is in the teens - Rmoney should hitch his star to the C-inker, a congressman will drop Mitt the Twit to the bottom for sure.
But it's far better than the even more 'do nothin' Senate...
Tammy
I wouldn't say it was a "do nothing Senate"
The Republicans set a record for fillibusters and threatened fillibusters..
Give credit where credit is due!
Great idea, find the worst possible person to run for VP (and admittedly it's a crowded field to choose from among the GOP oinkers.)
And as somebody or other said awhile back, accusing all us liberals of calling someone a "fool" as a "rhetorical" device, blow it out your back end. You take yourself much too seriously. And to think you're only 13 years old living in mummy's basement playing with the computer. Seen anygood porn sights lately? This stuff is too serious for you. Go do somethingmore along your line, or mental levle, like kiddie cartoons.
And how many years of tax returns will Romney's pick for VP be able to produce? If Romney couldn't get by a Senate confirmation hearing without providing detailed information about his returns, could his potential VP pass the same muster? Romney's stonewalling is very telling in that it gives a very glaring glimpse of the kind of secretive, none-of-your-business attitude he would bring to the presidency. Will his VP choice walk the Romney walk? For every question he doesn't want to answer, Romney begins his response with a phony chuckle, then lapses into a word salad almost as bad as Palin's responses. Will his VP mirror Romney's ability to completely ignore the question? Probably. Most probably.
DeMerl -- Amen.
Cheney defends Romney with the "gateway" argument that if Mitt releases 8 years, the Dems will demand 10, so somehow one incomplete year for 2010 and another year for 2011 just before the election should be good enough -- riiiight. Cheney paid a 30% tax rate on average, and hopes to learn ways to evade taxes from Romney.
Betcha Romney's $10,000 that yes, Romney will pick some horrendous creature like a junior version of himself to run for VP. So many choices, so little time. the GOP field is choked with crypto-Nazis, unsavory businessmen (like Romney himself) and total mutton-heads. A rich field.
I don't care! How many has Romney produced? What is he hiding?
I don't understand all this 'hidden tax returns' business. The IRS must have approved them. They couldn't hide anything criminal, could they? But then, I've never understood how off-shore havens could be legal.
Surely the IRS is not in the pockets of dodgers, how could that be? Our elected officials, both houses, SC justices, cops, military, they must all be totally pure-minded and righteous and will easily be able to pass through the eye of the needle. That is, unless I'm on duty at the Soily Gates.
I strongly doubt that the returns have anything criminal. What they could show is that Romney is taking one position publicly, and another in his private life. Having a large amount of assets offshore while he is proclaiming is faith in America would be especially embarrassing.
Romney will choose Virginia Governor, Bob McDonnell as his VP running mate.
Trust me! It will be...
but
That's a possibility. It's also a possibility guaranteed to cede the woman's vote to Obama. After the debate over abortion in Virginia in which McDonnell only backed down (somewhat) after the uproar over the initial bill, which would have required a non-consensual & invasive testing procedure as a requirement for abortion, even for victims of rape and incest, I can't see McDonnell as an attractive candidate for most female voters.
Yeah, Paul Ryan brings a lot to the table. None of it is any good for America, but he's got a lot of it.
Paul Ryan rocks. He is the pick, not T-Paw <a href="">Do the right thing Mitt!</a>
A lot of BS.
Lil' Debbie, are you calling BullschMITT on them Republicans?
(I think you are correct!)
Do they really think America is going to vote to do away with social security? LOL
Sheila If the republican/tea bag party have there way.
What do you mean 'America is going to vote'? America doesn't vote. You need your eyes open and your brain on to vote. We believed the slick slogans of pulpit preacher BO; we even swallowed the oil goon GWB and world-order Cheney about Iraq. We've bent over for the bank f#$%s to have their wicked ways with us, so why do scream at abusive priests? We're being buggered every day.
We don't vote, we simply put a check mark for the lobbyists to run the ship.
Naw, it's just a joke. That's the opening skit on Saturday Night Live tonight.
Please Mr. Romney put that RYAN BAGGAGE on the Table for VP. His baggage may actually outweight the BAGGAGE of even Chris Christie and yes a PUN INTENDED.
Not even Barack Obama's baggage would outweigh the personage of Chris Christie. It'd take a Boeing 747 to do that.
But if you want to attack the guy because he's fat, at least have the decency to include Michael Moore in the discussion. He's undoubtedly the largest figure in Hollywood at the moment, and I mean that in more than one way.
You forgot to add that he is a Fat Bully and Rude. I have no problem with you adding Michael Moore to the Fat Pack if it makes you feel better, at least he does not act like a Bully and Totally RUDE PERSON.
Firstly, Michael Moore lives in Michigan and not Hollywood. Secodnly, as soon as Moore runs for public office you can criticize his weight as well.
Bobby Jindal is like the puppy dog of the Republican party, following around and latching onto the leg of whoever's the most popular. It's pretty shameless how he throws his affection and support around, hoping it will reflect back and help him politically.
I guess it's a better strategy than running on his record, though. You know, the one where he's diverting taxpayer money to fund education programs that teach that the Loch Ness Monster is real, amongst so many other, far more harmful untruths.
bobbie jindal is the Anchor Baby of the republican/tea bag party.
Please don't insult small dogs that like to hump people's ankles by comparing their activities to Bobby Jindal. Jindal is WAY below their level, morally and intellectually. And he's not even cute.
Jiyuish or whatevver Bobby's real name is, he needs to go back to the Motherland where they believe in a lot of smoke, mirrors, opeium and hash dreamss and spirituality....or some would say, wierdness.
I don't think it's fair to attack Jindal on the basis of his Indian ancestry. Let's leave the politically motivated racism to the Tea Party and just evaluate Bobby Jindal on the basis of the things Bobby Jindal says and does. There's plenty there.
Lil Debbie seems to be a Lil crazy . . .
You're correct that race is utterly out of place, Nathan, but let's hear what you offer by way of proper criticisms of Jindal. What do you have against his political practices?
To: Lil Debbie--
You are just jealous that Bobby Jindal was a Rhodes Scholar...... He has more intelligence in his little finger than you have in your whole white t#### body.....
Well, CubsFan, the most pertinent would be Jindal's disastrous policies regarding education. They are the most prominent policies he has pushed as governor and he has been named the Romney team's point person for education, so it is also relevant to the national campaign.
Jindal endorsed and signed the Louisiana Science Education Act into law. This law specifically promotes teachers using supplemental materials to push a religious and political agenda by undermining education of science and the reality of evolution and global warming and teach creationism or the story of Noah instead.
Jindal pushed for Louisiana's school voucher program going into effect this fall. This program will divert millions of dollars in public funds toward private schools, most of them religious, and many of them using curricula that consist of dangerous fundamentalist, political propaganda. The ACE program teaches that the Loch Ness Monster is real as an attempt to disprove evolution. And the Bob Jones University curricula used by many fundamentalist schools is even scarier: http://vimeo.com/43687872 Accountability standards for these schools receiving voucher students and funds are minimal to nonexistant.
The thing that is so infuriating about Bobby Jindal is that he knows better. He isn't a Rick Perry or Sarah Palin. He has the intelligence and education to know better. He has the background to challenge the social conservatives. He could be a real reform figure for the Republican party. But he isn't. Because he cares more about his political fortunes than anything else, and so he's willing to tag along with and fall in line behind anybody if it could help his political ambitions. He could be a leader, but instead, he's just following the Pied Pipers of the Tea Party, enthusiastically joining their anti-science, pro-fundamentalist theocracy movement, because when Rick Santorum looks like a credible presidential nominee and Jon Huntsman doesn't, that's obviously where the political momentum of the party is. He is on the wrong side of the single most important issue (that unfortunately too few voters care about).
You're all wrong -- Mitt will pick Tim Tebow as VP.
Two overrated turnaround artists on the same ticket?
Now THAT'S a ticket I'd enjoy voting for! Lol.
I was sorry to see the Broncs bid adieu to Tebow. He's not going to be that good of a fit on the Jets. Kerry Wood was a terrible fit on the Yankees, and I think Tebow is the football equivalent.
I'm still waiting for someone to CLEARLY explain how this little lawyer from Janesville is qualified to tell the American people how to fix Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, the budget...anything. He does not, as far as I am aware, possess any particular training in or knowledge of national health systems or insurance. I do know he has proposed issuing millions of seniors checks (or as he calls them, vouchers) for insurance that only insurance companies can cash. Not sure allowing insurance companies direct access to the US Treasury is the best idea anyone had.
he is not a "lawyer"...his father was and his wife is a tax attorney.
he has a B.A. in Economics from Miami of Ohio..
He was however...voted "Biggest Brown Noser" in High School.....guess that is close enough to being a lawyer...his head is in the same place!
Aw, come on and say it outright: allowing health insurance companies to dive into the pockets of The U.S. Treasury is a bonehead and a catastrophic idea, and I'm sure whether you are or not. No telling what kind of kickbacks Paul Ryan is enjoying from turning over his life and soul and body to the health insurance industry. He is already enjoying better than average medical insurance and benefits just by being a fly by night member of Congress, paid for by the American taxpayer (that would be you and me, even the trolls hoping to get rich byvoting for Mittens.) These people are on the payroll of the taxpayer and the government. And that is all of Congres. I think they should be demoted and get a salary cut, also have to put money into social security the rest of the workers do in this country, and let their retirement come from social security. Why should tehy be treated like royalty: Particularly when most of us can't afford decent health insurance for ourselves. It's obscene.
Mitt is self-destructing over the tax thing. Next month it'll be something else, if not still the taxes. Totally incompetent on the national stage and his pick for VP will do nothing to stop the descent. Too bad, actually, as complacency has always hurt the left.
You are right! Fact is, though, Romney is still the best of the clown posse that Republicans offered for candidates this election. Exactly what does that say about the Republican party?
Clinton v. Christie in 2016. Now THAT'S going to be a war on multiple fronts.
"war on multiple fronts"
don't make it a "pie eating contest"...that won't even be a skirmish let alone a war!
Hilary will have her hands full trying to get the nomination in '16. There's a certain Chicago mayor who's very interested in a future run.
And Christie will never be a GOP Presidential candidate (hopefully).
In 2016, the GOP will be running our incumbent. Romney/Rubio 2012!
hey Cubsfan, we know how much you love Christie lol
Lol. Hey, Gem. How are ya?
Yeah, he's not my favorite guy in the world. I admire much of the work he's done in NJ, and I recognize the fact that it's quite an accomplishment for a Republican to do ANYTHING in that particular area, but he's got too many question marks in my book. Appointing a radical Muslim extremist to the NJ court? Probably not the best call. Being the only Repub who attended the dinner with the Chinese Communists at the White House? Another not-so-great call.
Maybe he's a closet democrat? lol Je suis bien, et tu?
Bien as well, merci. :)
(You're gonna get 'DisgustedConservative' mad at me again though if he catches me speaking foreign languages. Lol!)
I have news for all you speculators... It's going to be Rubio...
Presumptive Republican candidate for President Mitt Romney has today announced his choice for his Vice Presidential running-mate....
The 2012 Republican ticket will be....
When asked how he justified naming a business entity, rather than a real live person as his Vice Presidential running-mate, candidate Romney replied...
that's not "news"....you are merely another "speculator" and not a very good one at that!
Don't laugh, just wait... You'll see!
He needs Ohio....Portman is the choice....but the line of the week is Rahm "I haven't got a clue" Emmanuel.....he says that Chik-Fil-A doesn't represent "Chicago values"...LOL
....as the murder rate in HIS town goes to the moon
Careful...with that logic, he'd need to select not just one but...about a dozen state Governors to be his VP.
Jindal wouldn't be a bad choice himself. I think Ryan has merit, but not enough. Rubio is a good choice. He's young, popular, and enthusiastic. Bob McDonnell out of VA wouldn't be a bad choice either.
I want Sarah back!
Palin would have been a fine VP in 2008 if it wasn't for the vitriol and hatred thrown at her by the Left. She was popular, young, and enthusiastic. All three of those are characteristics I listed for Rubio above. And all three of those are characteristics that were utterly absent in John McCain. I think Rubio would make a nice balance for Romney. Mitt can tend to be a bit heavy and Rubio would bring some more exuberance into the picture.
Yes, by all means better the young, enthusiastic and stupid running for high political office as a Repug, than an old, senile and yet somewhat more honest one. Go for it, these are the days of the young "enthusiastic" (God help us), as an ideal. Instead of wisdom forethought and intellectual honesty or character. None of which any of these thugs have, or they wouldn't be Republicans. "Exhuberance," you gotta be kidding. Do you also frequent male strippers' clubs?
Palin was unqualified. Selecting a woman was a great idea. There were plenty of qualified Republican women to choose from, including Condolezza Rice, Senator Snow and more. All of them with national and international experience. But, McCain just had to select someone who was popular with the far-right. In the end, that decision probably cost him the election by driving away the independent and moderate vote. If Romney selects Ryan, the darling of the far right, it'll prove that he's incapable of learning from history.
Lil Debbie is just a little angry because all her babydaddies left her and she really needs her government checks....
SENATOR SNOWE?
I was agreeing with you for the most part all the way until that line, Barry. Olympia Snowe is absolutely NOT a "qualified" Republican. She was one of the ONLY Republicans who turned tail and voted for Obamacare. That vote alone would make "Romney/Snowe" a ticket that would be laughed off the stage.
Sheesh....and I was being sarcastic about Sister Sarah! Kinda like chum to sharks, I guess, primordial instincts take over!
Can't be Rubio, though. The Mormon connection.
Can't be McDonnell, either. Women will bolt.
Can't be Jindal. Too Simpson's.
Can't be Ryan. Scares too many seniors.
Can't be Portman. Too Bush.
Can't be human. Too stark a contrast.
Hahahahaha!
Why do you think McCain lost the election? You are funny! The American voter has spoken! Just run Palin if you dare!
MSNBC Master of Funny Entries, you are hereby ordered to post a minimum of 10 times per news item. Boy do we need your wit. It's the only medicine that will wash away the foul taste of of all these other belligerent posts.
I was talking about 2008, so her vote on health reform isn't relevant. But, even so, her vote on one issue doesn't determine whether she is qualified to be VP (and, by extension, qualified to be president). She is an intelligent person who understands how Washington works. Neither attribute can be used to describe Palin. But, don't like Snowe? That's OK with me. I was simply making the point that the GOP had a number of far more qualified women than Palin.
As much as it might be satisfying to want to elect someone from outside the Beltway, the truth of the matter is that if we expect results, we need to elect people who know how to pull the levers of power and know how to work within the system. Our "do nothing" Senate was a bee hive of activity compared to the House. Why? Because the Senate has enough people from both parties who understand that compromise is necessary. Sometimes, you just have to hold your nose and vote for legislation that you don't like in order to achieve something that you want. The House, on the other hand, contains enough tea party ideologues that nothing gets done because they view compromise as a dirty word. Instead, they gave us 31 separate votes to repeal healthcare reform. Given that the legislation never had a chance in the Senate or with the president, one vote would have been enough. The other 30 were just a waste of time.
I think Ann Coulter would be a brilliant choice.
Ann Coulter would agree with you, if no one else does.
Excuse me while I turn my computer off to puke in the bathroom. these clowns make Sarah Palin look like an intellectual and a wise woman. Yuch. Sarah was the last and best Republican candidae for President, since John McCain is senile and over the hill. It's downhill all the way now for the GOP. Marco Rubio is not generally liked among the hispanic community. He's too busy trying to becme Mr. Wasp values and climb into the white folks' affections in his "Uncle Tom" way.
Lil' Debbie, you have so many unbiased facts presented in your post that I just don't know where to begin in responding to you! You've clearly learned to transcend race and slander in order to hold intelligent discourse for the betterment of your country. Well done!
CUBS, I'd say her assessment of character is pretty much spot on. As for intelligent discourse, or the lack thereof, I can only assume that you don't read the posts of other's in the Right with their blatant racism, bigotry, foolishness as well as displaying a total disdain for any facts which might contradict their narrative.
BTW, your remarks regarding Olympia Snow are a perfect example of why the GOP not run by the Tea Crazies is going to make itself obsolete very soon. It will be nothing other than the party of angry old White men some the 1% and rest Nascar/NRA White trash. Keep it up. Have you bothered to check the polls for the Latino vote as well as other minorities??? It should give you pause.
Congress runs on COMPROMISE. Always has, always will, going back to our founding fathers. But now, your party thinks it's a dirty word and as a result, they're shut down congress completely. A lot of independents have had a belly full of that crap and are not going to tolerate it come November.
Sigh. As I always request, Intrepid, back it up. You claim Republicans on here don't post facts, but I know for a fact that's not true. The Republicans on here (BigBenAlaska, GermanGem, and DevDoc to name a few) consistently post facts and have never made a racist comment that I'm aware of. Compare that with the blatant racism that comes from Libs like Debbie, Steve, OzzieBoy, and others.
CUBS, I didn't say that you personally did. But the racist comments I come across routinely are from those on the Right. That is undeniable. I"ve encountered several on here already this evening on several articles. And I am unware of people on the Left making racist comments.
As I always say, "Not all Republicans are racist, but most racists are Republican." And if you are going to argue that one with me I guess I'll have to start keeping a list for future reference. If I had a dime for every vile comment said about Obama, particularly in regards to his race and place of birth, I'd have millions by now.
Cubsfan, Debbie's just pissed, jealous and bitter because Sara Palin's hot...
Lol. I'm guessing she'd have much the same venom for Michelle Bachmann, who I consider one of Mitt's better choices for VP. He won't choose her, but he could do far worse. She's got legislative experience. I think it's a good move how Governors tend to choose Legislators and vice versa. McCain (Senator) chose Palin (Governor). Reagan (Governor) chose Bush (Senator). Clinton (Governor) chose Gore (Senator). It's a good move to pull whatever experience you don't have onto the ticket. Romney's got the executive experience, so picking someone like Jindal or McDonnell would be doubling down on that at the expense of legislative experience. Bachmann is an established legislator and would thus bring Mitt the facet he's lacking. Rubio is a legislator too, but he has next-to-no experience.
Oh my gosh, Daniel...you DIDN'T just say that! Crikey, get those eyes checked and lay off the Viagra!
Yea, she's hot. Hot'n stupid. She can't answer "gottcha" questions like "What news publications do you read"? Or how about, "What other Supreme Court Rulings other than Roe vs. Wade do you think are significant"? To which this rocket scientist responded, "I'll get back to ya some of them later".
And this dumb bunny, mindless bimbo could have been a heartbeat away from the presidency??? LMFAO. You Righties sure are funny bunch, I'll tell you.
Yeah, I like Rubio because he can deliver Florida I honestly think that now that we've got the voter fraud problems in Ohio addressed, we'll get Ohio... And I like the idea that Rubio will mature to be a great president in 2020. But I like Bachman as well because she could help deliver the women vote! Good points CubsFan!
CUBS, PLEASE tell me you did not just say that Michelle Bachmann was one of the better choices for VP?
You've got to be kidding me. Please tell me you're just having fun with us Libs tonight. This is the woman whose married to a GAY MAN who runs a program to convert Gays back to straight by "Praying away the Gay"!!! Are you efffing kidding me? And this dumb bunny doesn't even know she's married to a gay man for god's sake. This is the same nitwit who though the Battle of Lexington & Concord was fought in New Hampshire. This is the woman who said that the Democratic Caucus should have an expose done on it, to weed out all the "Unpatriotic" Democrats. Paging Joe McCarthy, helloooooooooo. And want these imbeciles to be taken seriously???
DANIEL, Please tell me more about this rampant voter fraud. Exactly how many cases of it have their been and how many convictions? There must be thousands because this is all I hear the Right ranting about lately is "voter fraud".
Bachmann would never deliver the women's vote, if you remember McCain tried that and lost. We aren't stupid.
Everytime I turn around one of these nuts opens their mouth and out comes garbage. Isn't there a smart one out of the whole bunch. Romney, Boehner, Cantor and Jindal should becalled "fruit of the gloom." Talk like they are full of crap!
Yeah and the last party Obama's gonna be throwing will be at the Democratic National Convention where their all gonna get together with the Village People and do the new theme song of the Democraps, YMCA!
Well, they won't ALL get together at the DNC, Daniel. Nancy Pelosi has officially advised her fellow Democrats to stay home. She said they should spend the time campaigning in their districts instead.
A bit worried, Nancy?
One bright spot, Rburn-4060125...at least Jr and Cheney were told not to attend the convention. So at least we wont be hearing from them. Come to think of it....Jr doesn't seem to be allowed to say ANYTHING or do anything during this campaign. The GOP message: 'STAY AWAY Jr'