Oh no he didn't? Why would Romney "associate with known terrorists" like Mourdock who wants government to grind to a halt and to hold the American people hostage? Is Romney hoping to get his "likability" numbers even lower? Oh, I get it, the Tea Party is all he's got now and he's hoping voter suppression and other machinations will allow him to squeak out a victory.

Did folks see the polls and how the generic Republican is way ahead of Romney? This explains a lot, but Romney can't get away with being the generic Republican instead of himself, what ever that is. This election will be a clear choice, and eventually if Romney does not provide compelling reasons why folks should vote for him, he will only continue to go downhill from here.

Mitt, please release your tax returns - we want to know how you can connect with the suffering middle-class. If you have tons of money and have not paid your share of taxes, then stop your campaign.

You vultures can hide your wealth in the Bermuda and Cayman Islands. But we the Middle Class have worked our butts off. If we are lucky we only have a roof over our head, and a bi-weekly paycheck, both of which the IRS is easy to tax, nowhere to run for us the Middle-class. So, there is no connection whatsoever between Mitt the Vulture and the Midddle-class

Way to go Willard, suck up to the crazy tea baggers.

Romney is always screwing with people. First he refuses to be transparent and now he wants HUGE tax hikes. Is Romney crazy? Finally employment is up and Romney wants to take us to the bottom. No wonder he lost to Obama in 2008.

Pigotry

Mitt isn't going to release his tax returns, Liberals and most are not going to vote for him anyway. He doesn't want to release them because he doesn't want his Conservative Republicans to see what he's been doing but it will all come out shortly

Is the media aware of exactly what the Romney campaign is up to? President Obama has worked hard to bring dignity and graciousness back to the White House. He has worked hard for Americans and the world to once again trust the US presidency. He has worked hard to change the rules so that what happened in the last 30 years will never happen again. That we the people will never again have to pay the bills when the elite screw us all.

Yet after all that, to this day, whenever the Republican Party gets involved in something, the bar gets lower and lower and lower.

Please America, don't vote for Romney or the Republicans. They're no damn good.

Look what the Romney campaign is up to:

Think Progress:

Romney Slams Obama, Falsely Claims He Filed Lawsuit To Restrict Military Voting in Ohio

Today on Facebook, Mitt Romney claims that the Obama campaign is trying to "undermine" the ability of members of the military to vote in Ohio:

President Obama's lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the state's early voting period is an outrage. The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote. I stand with the fifteen military groups that are defending the rights of military voters, and if I'm entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, I'll work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them.

This certainly sounds outrageous, but it is not true. Since 2005, Ohio has had in person early-voting in the three days prior to the election. This year, however, the Republican legislature in Ohio eliminated early voting during this period, except for members of the military. The Obama lawsuit is attempting to restore voting rights for all Ohioans, not restrict them for the military or any other group. From the Obama lawsuit, filed in federal court.

Plaintiffs bring this lawsuit to restore in-person early voting for all Ohioans during the three days prior to Election Day – a right exercised by an estimated 93,000 Ohioans in the last presidential election. Ohio election law, as currently enacted by the State of Ohio and administered by Defendant Ohio Secretary of State, arbitrarily eliminates early voting during the three days prior to Election Day for most Ohio voters, a right previously available to all Ohio voters.

The Obama campaign's request for a preliminary injunction does not seek to restrict military voting. Rather, it simply is asking that the full early voting period be open to all citizens, as it was under the law before this year.

Even Fox News acknowledges the purpose of the suit, noting "the lawsuit does not restrict the ability of military personnel to cast their ballots early."

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As we all know, Mitt Romney has never cared about the military. Nor does he care who won't be able to vote because of voter suppression laws in the upcoming election.

He needs to retire to the Cayman Islands with his money. That's the only thing he cares about.

Tweet over @ The Obama Diary:

U.S. Begins Packing Its Afghan War Gear for the Movers nyti.ms/PticZU

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Happy Birthday President Obama.

Our birthday present to you: We will extend our blood, sweat & tears to see to your re-election.

We're proud you are our president. Very proud.

"When you’re rich, you want a Republican in office." - Jenna Jameson.

If you are rich, and you think the republicans won't win, you will be moving overseas by november.

Wish I was rich.

DB Akron -- Right, like Limbaugh moving to Costa Rica, getting our hopes up and all. The rich who back Romney should move overseas now and give it a try -- Say N. Korea and see how well they do operating a business there, or go to some Islamic country and see what it's like to live in a theocracy, or go to Russia and see what a one-party state is like. Yeh, they should go and try it now, why wait?

CNN's Dana Bash: her source confirms Harry Reid's source on Romney's taxes is "credible"

CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 transcript:

DANA BASH, CNN SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That’s right. We now have a couple of responses, Anderson. Let me read you the first one, that is, “Senator Reid stands by his comments. Governor Romney’s continued refusal to release his tax returns raises legitimate questions about what he is hiding and whether he paid any taxes at all. Governor Romney can easily end this debate by following the precedent set by his father and releasing his tax returns.”

And as you were coming on the air, Anderson, I got a follow-up like the statement, which also stands by what they call his credible source that Romney has not paid taxes for 10 years, and he’s calling Romney playing tricks, many tricks at his disposal for avoiding taxes. So not backing down at all.

I got to tell you, covering Harry Reid for a lot of years, there are times when he says things off the cuff that make his aides wince, like talking smelly tourists in the capitol. I’m not making this up. This is not one of those times.

Could the Tea Toy Party syncophants of the GOP look any more ridiculous than this??

Dude,Wrong Car:GOP Tracker Tails Judge Instead of Senate Candidate

An Indiana GOP tracker sent to follow Rep. Joe Donnelly, the Democratic nominee for Senate, instead followed a criminal court judge who feared that he was being stalked.

As first reported in the Indianapolis Star, 49-year old tracker Kurt Holland followed the car of Judge Jose Salinas, after a local Democratic picnic Saturday in the Indianapolis area. When the judge noticed a mysterious person was following him — for 16 miles — he pulled into a parking lot, briefly followed Holland’s car in order to get his license plate number, and called the police.

Salinas told TPM that as the county’s drug court judge, his duties do involve sentencing people to prison: “And you know what, we have to deal with this stuff all the time, people not liking what we do, people not liking our rulings.”

“I gotta be honest with you,” said Salinas. “For those 16 miles he was on me on the highway, and when I noticed him, the unknown factor was scary.”

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/indiana-gop-tracker-joe-donnelly-judge-jose-salinas-follow.php

Obama/Biden 2012 Joe Donnelly for Senate! Democrat all the way!

When you're rich you want a DEMOCRAT in office! Look at the DOW now compared to 4 years ago .....

Concerning Obama's "change" and Romney's "more of the same".........

"Machiavelli writes that reforming an existing order is one of the most dangerous and difficult things a prince can do. Part of the reason is that people are naturally resistant to change and reform. Those who benefited from the old order will resist change very fiercely. By contrast, those who stand to benefit from the new order will be less fierce in their support, because the new order is unfamiliar and they are not certain it will live up to its promises. "

“The Republicans … will try to make people believe that everything the Government has done for the country is socialism. They will go to the people and say: "Did you see that social security check you received the other day—you thought that was good for you, didn't you? That's just too bad! That's nothing in the world but socialism. Did you see that new flood control dam the Government is building over there for the protection of your property? Sorry—that's awful socialism! That new hospital that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers! Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor! Socialism is bad for you, my friend. Everybody knows that. And here you are, with your new car, and your home, and better opportunities for the kids, and a television set—you are just surrounded by socialism! Now the Republicans say, ‘That's a terrible thing, my friend, and the only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket.’"

-- Harry Truman, 1947

Roadkill, you're so correct ... Machiavelli wrote ..... and Mitt listened (Unfortunately he's not a prince and the wimp factor .. well, he just can't get there to be a new order.)

TP

Anderson Cooper absolutely filleted Dana Bash and Harry Reid for the completely BASELESS and UNSUBSTANTIATED rumor that Romney hasn't paid taxes. Reid is a disgusting coward and needs to name his sources. He won't though because he's a LYING sack. Just like Obama!

Hold strong Romney! Do not give in to this crowd. The tea party got the message. Just say no more! Democrats can not be trusted. They want to tax and spend us into bankruptcy. No new taxes. None, Zero, Zip, Nada.

Mitt will SEVERELY CUT government! Slash and burn baby! Slash and burn! Save America vote Romney. Vote R!

@ Brockton Barlow -

"Hold strong Romney" ? ??? WTF is wrong with you?

Accountability should be at the top of the list for the person running this country. Release the damn taxes, if there's nothing there then you're almost guaranteed the presidency because the Dem's will be proven faulty. Or would you rather stand behind the whole hide them routine because they are too damaging.

Its not about giving in, its about transparency. Being able to make sure the guy who's applying for the job isn't some pathetic liar, cheat, manipulator hell bent on crashing the world economy. You have a responsibility to make sure the best man gets the job, not just the party you associate with. Romney is not applying to be Team Leader at your local Mc Donalds. How many years of taxes did you need to furnish to purchase a house? You're telling me the presidency is worth less than that?

Republicans, Tea-party members and Democrats alike should be screaming at him for his secrecy.

"Mitt will SEVERELY CUT government! Slash and burn baby! Slash and burn! Save America vote Romney."

For starters you don't even know what this will do to the economy do you. All you see is black and white cut and save. You need a large government workforce more than you realize. Large government workforce supports everything from the gas station, grocery store, automobile industry, housing, you name it. You can't erase a workforce overnight that was built over 100 years of growth sorry. You're short sightedness is whats wrong with the Republican party. Of course who cares as long as your party has an annual military budget that almost reaches 1 trillion dollars right.

Romney plans to comply with federal law and provide two years of taxes as McCain did last time around. Moonbats are trying to turn this into an issue. Poll after poll show Americans care about the economy and jobs not Romneys 5 years, 10 years, or 50 years of taxes returns.

Everybody knows Romney is rich. Everybody knows Romney would pay as little in tax as allowed by law just like anyone else. Well, except for Obama's boy Timmy Geitner. Get over it libbies Romney doesn't need to answer to frivolous witch hunts.

Romney can boost his poll number 10 points by doing two simple things....

1). Have lunch at Chick-Fil-A

2). If asked by a reporter about turning over his taxes he should tell the reporter "kiss my ass"!

Americans want someone that can build wealth in charge of this country not someone that has only SQUANDERED our national wealth like Obama. The worst President EVER!

News for Mittens:

Politics may make strange bedfellows, but also, you're known by the company you keep.

A speculation for the rest of ya':

I wonder if Mittens will urge Sarah Palin to run for Vice-President. (Enquiring minds want to know,)

Why should Romney reveal his taxes..........Do we want to start a new Republican tradition of honesty with the voters?? God forbid that we actually hear the truth for once instead of promises such as creating 12 million jobs and totally out of sync with the last 8 years of the Republicans in office (perhaps he meant in India and China maybe).

Romney will sleep with anybody who will smile back at him

I'm from Indiana, and pray we do not go off the deep end by voting Murdock and Pence in. As a registered Democrat, I have always respected Richard Lugar and was sad to see him get beaten by nut case like Murdock. Think Indiana, do we really want to elect people who won't compromise? Compromise is what our nation's government has been based on since day one and we are losing our ability to compromise more and more each year and the Teabaggers are the ones instigating the no compromise rule.

What kind of economy would we have if ALL AMERICANS stashed their money off shore like Robme????????
He will be our roll model so ALL AMERICANS should move ALL their money off shore and use every trick in the TAX CODE to not pay any taxes.

Tell you all some really sad news.

This week I did some computer work [again] for a woman who claims "god" saved her from dying and she owes her life to him. [clasped hands and looked up]

She fully believes that the president is a "muslim"

She turns off the TV to talk to her imaginary friend and has no knowledge of current events.
[give credit where due is does not watch faux new]

Swears that religion belongs in the government.

Now the SCARY PART ------- she will be VOTING ! !

I don't know that Romney backing a Tea Bagger like Mourdock really does either of them any good. There are negatives from both perspectives.

I find it hard to believe that a "principled" Tea Bagger can vote for Romney in good conscience. A group that is so intently against making compromise is expected to vote for the most compromised Republican candidate in generations? And for those independent voters, Romney's embracing of Tea Party candidates probably doesn't help. The only reason independents even consider Romney is because down deep he is a moderate at best.

As for Mourdock's benefit? Indiana already knows what this guy is. The Tea Party is big in parts of Indiana, but it's nowhere near a majority. Moderates don't like the radical approach of Mourdock. Donnelly is a "Blue Dog" and has a long record of being a conservative who just happens to be a Democrat. He is definitely not an "Obama Democrat" and pretty much votes more like a right of center independent. Donnelly is probably a lot closer to Lugar from the standpoint of his middle ground. reasonable positions. Lugar would have easily won again in the Indiana general election, but because the Tea Baggers hijacked the Republican primaries, another one of the most reasonable and responsible Senators is now on the sidelines. Indiana has a slight conservative majority, but most are middle ground types who aren't happy with the Tea Party nonsense. Lugar has at best given a backhanded "endorsement" to Mourdock and publicly announced that he would not be campaigning for him. If he decides that he is out of politics, I wouldn't be all that surprised to see him give a late endorsement to Donnelly. I'd be willing to bet that Lugar himself votes for Donnelly over Moudock. He has damn near made that clear.

And to Mr. Romney, show us your taxes already! I have little doubt that Romney hasn't technically "cheated", he's spent a lot of money with bean counters to assure that he is "within the law" and if he finds out he made a mistake, he will surely just retroactively "fix" it. The problem as I see it is that Romney is a glaring example of the stacked deck in favor of the wealthy. The guy retroactively retires as CEO to fit his needs and when he was running for governor he retroactively changed about 6 years of his residency so he would be qualified to run. The bottom line is that Romney doesn't want the public to see how he has a long history of manipulating laws and regulations to suit his needs and provide the most financially profitable situation. I'm betting that if he released his taxes, some relatively "minor" discrepancies would show up and maybe some things that technically violated the law. But as Romney approaches things, if you get caught, you just plead that it was unintentional and then write a check to fix it. The man is the poster child for what is wrong with this country. But for a lot of idiots out there, they will look the other way because he isn't Obama and that's good enough for them. The question is just how much of Romney's antics can one accept? Just how many things that run counter to voters' principles can people take and still vote for this guy with a clear conscience? How do Christians, some with about as much distrust for Mormonism as they have distrust for Islam, come to the decision to support this guy? Can you be comfortable knowing you are being a being a hypocrite?

I have to laugh sometimes when I hear people describing Obama as some kind of "other". The reality is that Romney is far less like the rest of us than Obama is.

Romney can boost his poll number 10 points by doing two simple things....

1). Have lunch at Chick-Fil-A

2). If asked by a reporter about turning over his taxes he should tell the reporter "kiss my ass"!

1. Chick-Fil-A is old news already

2. Yes, that would be the correct thing to do. He can start with one of the Fox hacks, because that's all he talks to.

Americans want someone that can build wealth in charge of this country not someone that has only SQUANDERED our national wealth like Obama.

I think you got the wrong president. It was Bush II that squandered a surplus by starting two unfunded wars.

The worst President EVER!

Yes, George W. Bush has earned that distinction.

DB - I wish you were rich, too.

If you're as rich as Romney, you DON'T pay taxes. Romney has been a welfare billionaire, for the last 10 years! I'm tired of paying for his a$$!!!

Annie Romney Spouts, Only the little people pay Taxes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, on a random note, it looks like brockton has lost another large fraction of his remaining 2600 braincells.

That aside, BACHMANN FOR VP! I want to see that shot of her opening for a hotdog on campaign posters for the rest of the year. Otherwise, all we're going to get are Willard's endless lies. Wait, I have another idea - he can ride the horse Alfalfa at campaign stops, do a little fancy prancing for the teabuggers, thus introducing them to the finer things of life and illustrating how the better people in life dance around the tax laws.

Romney: "Blind trusts are an age-old ruse."
Romney: "In order to make sure that I didn’t have a conflict of interest while I was governor or while I was considering a run for national office, I had a blind trust established.”

To all neo-fascists, just admit that you want a compulsive liar for president, and perhaps we can discuss how that benefits you and yours.

“You can’t keep spending massively more than you take in,”

...while starting two wars - said the Party of Forget.

Very good points, both of you. Not only did Mittens refuse to serve, he made sure his sons never served either. Remember when Mitty said something about how it was more important for his spawn to get him elected?

The "teabaggers" will be the destruction of the country. They have no clue what they are talking about.

As if it is a secret .... that Indiana is the place where KKK was revived in the 20th century.

sfcret,

So you want 'newday' to "show past posts" in order to "verify anything (s/he) posted in the past," concluding with "If you don't want someone looking....then don't post at all."

Does that same logic apply to Mittens and his tax returns, numbnuts?

MSNBCMFE - Are you really that stupid to try and compare the two? Tax records are personal and are protected. Public posts are not protected. God, you are really dense.

And Kerry, sfcret? What about him?

The chicken hawks, Cheney, Romney and the like LOVE them some wars...as long as they don't have to serve in them. Nor are they particularly aggressive about making sure that those who DO serve have what they need to be successful.

You are barking up the wrong tree with Romney. He sure was adamant about other people's sons serving, wasn't he? Then there was that whole "I'm a minister" crap.

If his sons had the love of country that Mittens described them as having, they would serve and not use the excuse that they are helping daddy get elected. A better description of that bunch is entitled elitist snobs.

As to my profile page.. my decision. What I learned is that the right wing nut jobs who like to attack liberals cannot be trusted to stay out of personal areas of my life. You want to be critical? Blame them.

In any event, you are coming across like a control freak. Knock it off.

And thanks to MSNBCMFE for stepping up.

sfcret,

Just pointing out how dumb you are. You're in with the big boys on this forum, so man up.

Absolutely.

In service to our country, Kerry is no JFK - PT boat split in half. He is no John McCain - shot down and tortured in Hanoi. He is no George H W Bush fighter pilot shot down. Heck he is no Jimmy Carter who served and didn't have one person come up and dispute his service.

You're in with the big boys on this forum, so man up.

This sounds a lot like attempted bullying to me. Sorry, resorting to such tactics is a sign of weakness.

Kerry was a hero of the Vietnam war. The right wing nuts lied about his service, and they ought to be ashamed of it.

And DB Akron: the bullying was done by sfcret. There was NOTHING that MSNBCMFE said that could be construed as bullying, unless of course, you are completely blinded by partisanship.

newday - I guess you know that because you were in Vietnam beside Kerry. Kerry disgraced the military and all who served when he threw medals over the WH fence in protest of the War. (We found out later there weren't even his medals). Kerry ranks right up there with Hanoi Jane. (Jane Fonda).

No one is bullying anyone, but MSNBCMFE doesn't post anything of importance and has a very limited and feeble mind. But I bet you voted with MSNBCMFE to collapse my post at 2.3. Now that's a disgrace but what is expected from liberals when they can't stand the truth. BTW, I compared Romney to Biden not Kerry, but I noticed you give Biden a pass.

As far as not allowing your posts be printed on your bio page so one can find out what you said earlier or a few days ago is not getting into your personal life.

Here DB Akron, let me state that a bit better .... if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. ;-)

My goodness sfcret, you having some delusions that you can dictate to other posters what they can and cannot do?

Get over yourself.

I'll say it again, you try to focus very hard on this. Right wing nut jobs made it very clear through systematic harassment that I had to keep my personal life private. Since none of us who are liberal would DREAM of behaving in a similar fashion, it came as quite a surprise to me. But it doesn't matter anyway, my page, I will decide what I allow to be seen. If it bothers YOU so much the better. Can't tell you how that delights me. I am not running for President, and while Mittens taxes are relevant, nothing about my life is.

As to Biden? He went through the Selective Service system just like anyone else in those days, and was not drafted due to asthma. Much better reason than being a "minister" don't you agree.

Kerry threw medals over the fence as an act of Civil Disobedience. You have read about Civil Disobedience, have you not? Country was founded on it. Remember the Boston Tea Party? What about Dr. Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks, you want to call them traitors too?

Let me say this as clearly as I can. You have NO importance to me. I wouldn't bother to vote to collapse a post of yours. People NEED to see the type of trash you write. I think you offended people by that message to me, and if you had any breeding at all, you would apologize.

You have some serious issues, you are a control freak, and I simply have no interest in your opinion about my page.

The fact is, sfcret, my page is only as public as I decide it will be. Which will eat you up the rest of the night.

HA!

Hard to believe anyone from the left bringing up draft dodging and not bring up Bill Clinton. The God of the Democratic Party. The man Obama hopes will right his sinking ship. The man who dodged the draft and protested with the communist.

Romney scares the crap out of the left because they know Obama's a failure.

Speaking of Obama. Which branch of the military did he serve in again?

I'm a progressive, liberal, democrat and I'm telling you this ...

Romney scares the crap out of the left because they know Obama's a failure.

Makes me giggle .... Romney should scare the GOP as he has NO plans, no words, and can only flip flop on issues. Good luck with your PRESUMPTIVE candidate!

Romney scary. THAT is hysterical!

I understand completely why Newday prefers her privacy, I also try to protect mine to a large degree. I have left many friend requests unanswered, I appreciate every single one I get, I sincerely do, I would like to respond to all of them, but for matters of personal privacy I generally never do. If you are one of the many posters that have "friended" me please do not be offended if I did not reply, I truly value each and every one of your friendly gestures, but I do not want my privacy to inadvertently become compromised and that has in fact happened to some of the posters on this blog before. I hope I still receive those friendly invitations from fellow posters as they are heartwarming, and every once in a while I get one telling me how just how much of a freaking idiot somebody thinks I am, and that's ok as well, either way please understand I appreciate the thought, but please understand why I seldom reply.

Fraternally Yours

Forrest Grump

Hi Ya Newday, I am sorry to say that Mrs. Grump's Mother passed away last week after a long battle with cancer, we had her at home, and she spent her last month surrounded by family and friends 24 hours a day. I don't want to make this political, but the truth is god help people if they do not have at least medicare insurance when they become old and sick.

I told my kids they must never leave me in a state where I am dependent on liquids and a machine to sustain my life. They said sure Pop, if that's what you really want, then the little bastards poured out my can of beer and unplugged my computer!

Well I just had to lighten it up a bit, it's been a sad couple of weeks, something we all go through at some point or another.

So sorry for you loss, Forrest. I've told my daughter the same. Our Congress needs to protect that which has been promised to us . . . Medicare and Social Security. I've benn paying in for ... well ... a LONG time ... and Mitt and his little Koch brothers do not need access to that.

Thank You Layton, you know I find it strange that they call them entitlement programs as if they were some sort of giveaway, the fact is people pay SS and medicare taxes all their working lives so of course they are entitled to the promise that was made to them all the while they paid those taxes. They sure as heck are entitled they payed for it.

Dear Forrest and Mrs. Grump:

I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Having had the pleasure of reading what Forrest writes on FR, I know that you are a close family, with lots of love and respect for each other. Losing a mom is a very hard thing. Takes a lot of time to get through, but eventually the memories provide solace.

Forrest, you DO know why my page is private and likely to remain that way. I am glad that sfcret has never been attacked the way I was, and my friends were. There are some people out there, who are not emotionally healthy, that try to intimidate others out of writing the liberal viewpoint. Someone like sfcret, who served ought to be outraged about it, but apparently isn't.

In any case, hugs to you and Mrs Forrest at this time of loss. Thinking of all of you this day,

newday - I am not, and did not, ask for your PERSONAL INFORMATION (age, wt, ht, race, etc), I don't have my personal information on the newsvine site. What I was asking for was to see the posts that you have posted in the past.All most everyone posting on here, one can go back and see what a poster said yesterday or last month, etc.. When I mentioned your personal page on newsvine I was referring to previous posts only not personal data. Example if I click on "Forrest Grump 2.0 it will show me when and what "Forrest Grump 2.0" posted, nothing more nothing less.

Sarge,

What is your hang-up with the Newsvine feature that allows any member to keep all but one of “their” home page modules closed to others?

I don’t understand why you think it is important to have them viewable. Clearly Newsvine believes the option to be important to their users/community or they wouldn’t provide that costly software option.

It is because it is my page and I choose to strictly limit access to my account.

In other words, sfcret, it is none of your business, and nothing you say will change that.

You have control ONLY over your page. And to continue to push on this is making you look slightly unhinged.

I should also add that I do not accept messages on Newsvine from anyone but my friends.

That ought to REALLY bother you, sfcret.

Thank You from Mrs. Grump and myself NewDay.

What kind of economy would we have if ALL AMERICANS stashed their money off shore like Robme????????
He will be our roll model so ALL AMERICANS should move ALL their money off shore and use every trick in the TAX CODE to not pay any taxes.

Forrest:

: )

“I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.” - Mitt Romney 2007

“It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft” - Mitt Romney 1994

Romney applied for and received four deferments, which sounds exactly like taking actions to remove himself from the draft.

Beside educational deferments, he applied for and received a deferment for religious reasons and went to Paris, France as a missionary where he lived in a mansion that has been described as a palace with a servant and a cook. The mansion has since been the United Arab Emirates embassy and is worth about $12 million.

Romney was granted the deferment even as some young Mormon men elsewhere were denied that same status, which became increasingly controversial in the late 1960s. The Mormon church, a strong supporter of American involvement in Vietnam, ultimately limited the number of church missionaries allowed to defer their military service using the religious exemption. But as fighting in Vietnam raged, Romney spent two and a half years trying to win Mormon converts in France.

[What I was asking for was to see the posts that you have posted in the past.]

Simply put "sarge": It's none of your business.

Maybe you should concentrate more on the meaning of "super-majority" and less on reading past posts...that should keep you out of trouble...

If Romney does not scare the living daylights out of Obama then why is 90% of Obama's campaigning negative? If Obama is such a wonderful leader then why does he not tout his record?If Obama has a vision other than failure for America then why hasn't he laid it out for America? His only solution is to tax the "evil rich" and separate us into categories to divide us.

The answers are simple. Obama is inept and has failed and now wants four more years to prove he has failed.

No thanks.

If Romney does not scare the living daylights out of Obama then why is 90% of Obama's campaigning negative? If Obama is such a wonderful leader then why does he not tout his record?If Obama has a vision other than failure for America then why hasn't he laid it out for America? His only solution is to tax the "evil rich" and separate us into categories to divide us.

The answers are simple. Obama is inept and has failed and now wants four more years to prove he has failed.

No thanks.

Sounds like you're the one that's scared. Not unusual for a Fox watching, Limbaugh listening tea bagger like yourself. You guys are afraid of everything. That's why you like to talk tough, carry guns and try to intimidate people who you consider inferior. I've got news for you Mr. Conservative, Romney's going to lose, the Democrats will hold the Senate and possibly retake the House. How's that for hi-jinx? So, I guess you better get ready to be really, really scared because your days are numbered. The Republicans need to disassociate themselves from the Tea Whacko's and return to the days of Dwight D. Eisenhower, the last truly great Republican president.

Dem's will retake the house, America had enough with the TeaWackos !!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have a problem with guys avoiding the draft during Vietnam. What I have a problem with is the Chickenhawks like Romney. He supported the war while in college but once he got out of college he did his best to avoid service. To this day he talks tough about Iran but we all know no Romney will ever join the service. He and his sons are classic chickenhawks. All for military soutions but just not for joining up themselves. As for Kerry, he earned his medals and he could do whatever he wanted with them including throw them over the White House fence in protest. When I got out I threw mine away. Other Vietnam veterans have mounted theirs on the wall. Kerry didn't shame any veterans as the medals were his. He could do with them what he wanted. At least he wasn't a Chickenhawk.

Rich Mourdock, a TeaWacko favorite barbecues Chickenhawks with the Romney's for Conservative Values !!!!!!!!

Don't worry Kannin, Romney will not get elected so he will not add 4 years to Bush's 8 years

It's already gone way past the possibility of a referendum. Try to keep up. Romney will die a death by a thousand cuts trying to hide his tax returns...

Oh please TP - We can be sure that anything on Romney's tax returns will be legal since he and his CPA know that they might be scrutinized thoroughly by the ferrets at the IRS. They also can have no national significance.

We can't say the same for the Fast and Furious documents that Obama is hiding by Executive Privilege. Obama talks “transparency” and practices the most aggressive obscuration.

Apparently the documents relating to Fast and Furious are so damning to Obama that if they come to light he would not only lose the election, but might also be sent to prison.

I am glad to see you are still blaming President Obama for what the republicans did to our country by repeating the republicans favorite lie forgetting that President Obama never said that about keeping the unemployment under 8%.

If we were in another recession like all the countries that followed the republican style of austerity for the poor and tax cuts for the rich, then I could say President Obama was a failure, but we are not. Those countries in double-dipped recessions would be more than happy to have 29 months of slow growth in the right direction.

But in the republicans eyes, President Obama is a failure because he couldn't fix the republicans mess fast enough with the republicans obstructing any bills that would create jobs. So lets just go back to the bush policies that actually destroyed our economy.

VOTE FOR SANITY....VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

AF - Even if you were correct (and you're not) that Obama's inability to keep his promises was due to lack of Republican support; so what! It doesn't matter who is to blame. Obama couldn't make progress in his first term; why would anyone imagine he could do any better during a second term. A Romney administration will not have to deal with Obama's fictional problem and will, therefore, be far more effective.

Kannin,

CPA ... Like Author Andersen did for Enron??

Kannin, weird employment is up yet you say Obama failed? I mean it is not like tax cheater Romney who did not pay taxes for 10 YEARS! The same Romney that wants HUGE TAXES to fix things. Wow what a solution Mitt tax us yet do not worry about paying YOUR OWN

dal - On rereading your post, I realize that everything you say is the exact opposite of objective reality. Which makes me wonder: Are you just writing down your own sick little hate-filled fantasies, or are you simply vomiting back propaganda that some other idiot fed you?

Simple minded liberals living in denial... I haven't seen a presidential ass kicking since Regan rolled over Jimmy Carter back in 1980 and this one is shaping up to be just like it!!!

Go Romney 2012!!! Yeah Baby!!!

Daniel,

RCP (Average of polls) as of 8/1/2012
8 Swing States: Tied in NC (15), Obama leads in 7, Romney leads in 0.
Delegates: Obama = Solid(142)+Likely(37)+Lean(68)+Swing(85) = 332*
Delegates: Romney = Solid(76)+Likely(55)+Lean(60)+Swing(00) = 191
Total Delegates: [332+191+15 = 538] Win = 270*

Danny-boy,

Donald Regan never ran for President, dummy. If you mean Ronald Reagan, that just opens up a whole new can of worms.

Do you mean Reagan the back-stabbing squealer who lied and sold out his fellow actors during the Red Scare? Or the Reagan that sold weapons to Iran in order to fund fascism in Central America? Or the "Ronnie" who looked like a ventriloquist's dummy in second-term Rose Garden press conferences, with Nancy whispering in his ear the words he should say?

Some hero, danny-boy. Just a decrepit vestige from a dying republican party.

Daniel Streibig -- We already know Mormons like you are going to blindly support Mitt. And we know you are, not just because of the hyperbole, but because you post in all bold. No one cares about winning Utah -- It's in the middle of nowhere.

Dennis, I read the internals on polls, clearly you don't care to.

Example in Florida. Quinnipiac is using 9 more points of democrats than Republicans. In 2008 democrats voted 6 points higher than Republicans. In the 2010 midterms democrat turnout fell to +3 points with Obama's approval was higher than it is today. Taking the 6 points away Romney, a weak candidate himself is EVEN with Obama in Florida, Ohio, and closing in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Michigan.

Probably my Favorite example of polls being done to achieve a desired result is Pew. They posted a nation wide poll showing Obama ahead by 7 points the other day. They used 41% democrats to 30% Republicans. The nation wide average is that democrats and republicans are just about even in the 34% range for each.

I've seen polls were only 22% republicans are used and 28% democrats while loading up on independents. I am seeing more polls just using "all americans" being tossed into the numbers.

What is going on is the media is putting up these clearly artificial numbers to supress the independent and Republican vote. This is really about all that is left for them to do to help Obama.

The Job numbers aren't that great, deficits are still over 1 Trillion, . . . . . .

BD,

You keep ignoring that this is the average of the 8 pollsters below and a few other lesser known pollsters. What I presented is a State by State result. If you don't like that then show me any delegate map that shows Romney with a lead in delegates. Even if you only count the "solid" and "likely" President Obama has a 48 delegate lead. If you add in the "Lean" it jumps to a 56 delegate lead and only 23 short of the 270 needed.

Rasmussen Tracking
FOX News
Gallup Tracking
Pew Research
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl
CBS News/NY Times
NPR
McClatchy/Marist

No one except a few loons from the left care about Romney's tax returns. Not even the queen loon Nancy Pelosi cares. What they care about is getting our nation back on track.

That doesn't include four more years of failed policy from Obama.

Slanted polls be damned, it's going to be a Romney landslide.

I'm glad to see Romney campaigning on Obama's failed presidency.

Obama's failed presidency:

...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

DJIA Jan 20, 2009 (Obama inaugaration) = 7949

DJIA Jul 3, 2012 = 13096

Dec 29, 2008 U.S. corporate earnings fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

And, if you want to point at job creation numbers:

You can download the data from BLS website and check Bush's performance yourself. I did and the numbers are shocking! Over the entire 8 years - 96 months - George W.bush's administration produced less than 160,000 jobs for 75 of those 96 months.

So the number of jobs added by Obama last month - 163,000 - is better than George W. Bush's record for 75% of his two terms in office.

Now what's truly sad about all this is that Mitt Romney claims to be able to add 12M jobs in his first year as president using the same failed policies that George W. Bush did!

Republicans right now suffer a severe disconnect from history.

Kannin - I love your "conspiracy" theories, keep it up as if you keep saying it loud enough, Rush Limbaugh will pick up on it and spread it to his "group" of followers. Having said that, here is what those on the right and far right are really afraid of:

The fact that the President's stimulus package stopped the bleeding of jobs in the private sector and in turn added jobs for 24 straight months WITHOUT the help of the republican party that vowed to put party before country in an effort to make Obama a one term president.

The fact that people that were reluctant to look for jobs are now entering back into the job market due to the continued(although anemic) job growth which is keeping the unemployment level above 8%. This is showing that people are starting to gain confidence in finding employment and that's something the republicans don't want to happen as they continue to push their "failed policies" agenda.

The fact that their "presumptive" nominee will not release his tax returns even after their insistence to get it behind him. They know as long as this question continues to come up, it will look bad for not only Romney but the party(we are still waiting for 2011 tax returns that he promised to release) and will mostly likely be a key issue with independents in the fall.

That the regulations that were put in place on Wall Street are working. Not only that but the way that Wall Street is reacting to the past jobs report is not something the republicans want to see because again there is growing sentiment the economy may be getting better.

Most independents know that it’s not only the President that is at fault concerning the economy but the “do nothing” congress as well. They are counting on us to forget what got us into this situation the first place and that if they keep giving us the same line and talking points regarding the economy and how the President has failed to deliver on his promises, we will say “ok” and come on over to their side.

What they fail to realize is that although we don’t like how Obama is handling the economy we also don’t know what Romney’s plans are because he hasn’t said anything. We know that Romney is very secretive and out of touch with the majority of Americans. We want substance and an alternative and NOT the same principles and policies that got us into the mess to begin with. We know that giving a tax break to the top 1%(whom we all know are NOT ALL job creators) is not going to help get the economy going again. We need real ideas that will produce real results and NOT the same ole song and dance.

Very nice post its nice to see someone who does not have to cuss rant and rave to get his message across. Again nice work (Common Sence 23)

The 8.3% unemployment is because of the TeaWackos in Congress, when are they going to stop Sabotaging our Country. If we don't get them out in 2012, we will have an Economic Collapse !!!

Just a Joe - Thanks for the compliment. I've learned a long time ago it's not what you say but how you say it that will get people's attention.

Right nut rants with no meaning...yawn

When have you voted Republican?

Well, his words, while off mike but overheard by all, were taken out of context, of course.

Becuase Obama is so weak a world leader, Russia is making another move to be a world power, as in Syria. No doubt, Medvedev has laid a trap for our dear Obama.

"out of context, of course " Certainly true mlk, but here was the exact conversation. Can you supply any context that doesn't imply he is hiding something important from the American people?

Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space.

Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you...

Obama: This is my last election…After my election I have more flexibility.

Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.

My,My,My an Open Mik incident, Call Da Law!

Kannin & MlkBone(2 lil ankle biters)! I'm sure Both of you Fiscally Conservative, so why don't we Close Gitmo? It Only Cost around $900,000 a year(per person)X 190(thereabouts)=$180 Million, Year after Year after Year!But hey, it Only cost around $15,000 per person here in America.

Or we could use My preferred method, Turn'em Loose, if they do the Republican thingy & Not learn thier lesson, KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, Smart Bomb'em!

$1, 000,000 solution(1 time Cost) to a $200 Million a Year Problem!

But Hey, lets talk about Open Miks, Yeah Thats Da Ticket!

You Betcha!

Occupy "Vegas Baby"

Rick, take your meds.

You republicans just kill me. First the republicans vote to keep GITMO open and then turn around and blame President Obama like he is the one keeping it open. Rick was saying a person with any economic sense would be closing GITMO because of the high cost, but no one has ever accused the republicans of having any sense.

First the republicans crash our economy and then bail out the greedy bankers and then blame President Obama for starting a welfare nation because he thinks we should take care of our people too, the actual victims of the crashed economy the republicans created.

First the republicans tell us the reason we can't have a jobs act is because it would do irreparable harm to the so called job creators. So the republicans vote for no jobs for America and somehow this also is President Obama's fault.

Yet these same so called jobs creators don't create any jobs but have millions and millions of those tax cuts dollars to spend lying to the people to elect the republicans that have promised them forever tax cuts.

If Mitt was even a tenth of the man he would have you believe he is, he would have released his tax returns yesterday. Wah...wah...the big bad democrats are going to pick on me if I release my tax returns doesn't sound like a man we need to lead our nation. What a wimp!

VOTE FOR SANITY...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012

MasterQ - Arguably, Justice Learned Hand was one of the greatest minds to ever sit on the Supreme Court. His answer to your argument that Romney's returns could be legal but "unethical" was as follows:

"Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes." Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F.2d 809, 810 (2d Cir. 1934) (Hand, J. Learned), aff'd 293 U.S. 465, 55 S.Ct. 266.

Harry Reid made a claim based on information he allegedly received from a Bain investor, that Mitt Romney paid NO TAXES for a period of at least 10 years.

• Here's the real Gotcha!

All Mitt Romney has to do to prove Harry Reid is a liar is to show his tax returns for those ten years. That's all. Simple!

• QUESTION: Why won't Mitt prove Harry is wrong?

What does Mitt have to hide that is so devastating that he will let Harry Reid's charge hang in the political air like he is doing? Must be something really bad that Mitt does not want his Republican supporters to know about.

If, as you say "it becomes fact" then that is only because Mitt Romney is allowing it to be seen as fact, since Mitt refuses to prove it false. Perhaps Romney can't disprove it! You ever think about that?

• GOTCHA!

Bruce

Romney doesn't have to prove anything. Harry Reid made the charge so the proof lies with Harry.

Sorta like INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

That is the way our system works. You make a charge you prove it.

I love the fact that the republicans can scream about the accusations about Mitt's taxes with no proof, but didn't skip a heart beat about all the unfounded accusations about Obama. HYPOCRISY ON THE RIGHT. I'm glad Harry had the balls to play in the dirt pile with them. Harry is a very careful man and he would have never made that accusation unless he was convinced it was true and he was going to be proved right.

Master Q

Romney's money is in a trust run by someone else. He is not controlling the money, the trust administrator is making all the decisions.

When you have seen one return with the income from a trust, you've seen them all.

Also the only way Romney can pay no tax is if all his investments are in tax-exempt Bonds. Being he paid slightly under 15% on his taxes, he probably has some, as most wealthy people do.

Romney's tax returns are a potentially deadly issue for the liberals, just as Gingrich's picking on Romney's 401k investments (also in the trust) was deadly for Gingrich's campaign.

DB .... Bulls**t!!!

The man managing his trusts is his personal friend and lawyer who is involved in most of his life. No they don't talk.... Something like the Super PAC's.

Woody, I think the word you are looking for is "BullschMITT!"

waukone, YOU are CORRECT-A-MUNDO! (Sarcastically speaking, that is.)

slodon, the legal system may be "innocent until proven guilty," but that ain't politics! In American politics its always been GUILTY unless you can prove otherwise. Romney is GUILTY, Reid is right! If not, then PROVE IT MITT, SHOW YOUR TAX RETURNS!

Rachel nailed Mittens to the wall using his own videotaped lies over the past decade or more. Her staff is amazing, backing up anything and everything with irrefutable and undeniable documentation. Not that it matters to the Jonestown brigade on the right but it reinforces us as to the justness of our cause. Good post, crawford.

It's actually Rachel Maddow (not Maddox) who is the host of “The Rachel Maddow Show”

Spelling error doesn't matter. I saw Rachel Maddow today at 5:00. Actually, just the first 20 minutes of it. It was amazing and did have undeniable documentation of Romney's pattern of lies.

It's not just that Romney lies. It's that he lies in the same way, consistently. He lied about his taxes before, why should I believe he's not lying about his taxes now? Show us the tax returns, Mitt.

Great show, Rachel.

C'mon........Romney does not lie he just re-invents the truth and he does NOT do that consistently.............the ole Flipper Romney has a new Flop of a story with each retelling of the same issue depending on who is in the crowd and where in the country he is telling his tale.

• MITT ROMNEY RUNS AWAY FROM

• his being a Prep School Bully
• his Draft Dodging during Vietnam
• his Bain Capital Vulture Capitalism
• his RomneyCare (the blueprint for ObamaCare)
• his Former Support for Gun Control
• his Former Support for Stem Cell Research
• his Former Pro-Choice Position
• his Unrevealed Tax Returns
• his Mormonism (which the GOP base does NOT like.)
• his Home State of Michigan, being solidly FOR President Obama.
• and
• The State Romney was Governor of, Massachusetts, being solidly FOR President Obama!

What has Romney really got going for him?

• LIES?

• MITT ROMNEY is NOT THE SOLUTION
• Mitt Romney has got major PROBLEMS!!!

-AJ

Very well written. Very factual! Now if the right wings would pay attention to actual facts but they don't want facts they just want President Obamas' head , therefore they are willing and able to believe everything they here from the Repukes. All these facts about GOP administrations and they do everything possible to block eveything he tried to do. Of course we have their supporters crying that Obama hasn't done nothing. Hell No! His hands have been tied. But the repukes and their supporters has always suffered from hatred and selective memory. Again good job AJ!

Watergate was Nixon and Nixon resigned, not Reagan. Don't forget about his VP, Spiro Agnew the crook.

Reagan had alzheimers and ate jelly beans during cabinet meetings. Nancy ran the country for the last 2 years of Reagans second term.

"Ummm, how many is a brazillian?" - Dubya

MSNBCMFE, You must remember that from the very beginning Mitt Romney, was the "ANYONE BUT" default candidate of the Republican Party.

During the Republican Primaries the most frequent description of the votes cast by Republican voters were for "Anyone BUT Romney!"

Of all the candidates in the Republican Primary, ...

(that is Snow Whitey and her 7 Dwarves: Michele Bachmann along with Ron Paul, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Job Hunstman, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and finally Mitt Romney)

... at one time or other, during the Republican Primaries, polls showed one or the other of them as the front runner always ahead of Mitt Romney. The majority Republican voter sentiment was always "Anyone BUT Romney!"

It wasn't really until after most of them "suspended" their campaigns that Romney finally became the leading candidate, but only by virtue of the fact that he outlasted by out-spending the rest. Mitt Romney was the default candidate left at the end of the bloody gauntlet.

Romney was simply the sole survivor of one of the most NEGATIVE intra-party campaigns anyone has ever seen in modern American politics. He wasn't the winner. Romney was simply the last survivor. He was what was left, after all the others had been beaten-up like; a gay blond prep student who was thrown down on the floor and had his hair cut off by the big bad bully. Guess who the big bad DEFAULT bully CANDIDATE was? Yes, that would be

Mitt "ANYONE BUT" Romney

Now that it has been established that Mitt Romney is the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, right here on these very blogs more often than not you will see the conservative Republicans advertise --- "Anyone But Obama!" far more frequently than they post anything at all like or even close to a "Romney 2012".

Why do they prefer ANYONE (but Obama), over "Romney 2012"?

Simple!

Because they still DO NOT LIKE Mitt Romney. They just feel they are stuck with him. And, apparently they are.

A candidate who has that little real support, from his own party, doesn't stand a snowball's chance on the Sun of beating an incumbent President who is loved and respected by the vast majority of his party, including African Americans who are predominantly Democrats, as well as the majority of clear thinking independent non-partisan swing voters of all races, creeds and colors!

• This election is NOT for Mitt Romney to lose.
• Mitt Romney has already LOST this election!

No, no, no. MSNBCMFE is right. We do have to pick up seats in the senate and retake the house! Mitt Romney is only part of the equation.

Don't think for a minute that all that super-pac money is going only to support Mitt Romney. Those enemies of the state are spending heavily to influence local and state-wide elections also.

COinFL, you are correct to an extent, as is MFNBCMFE, but it doesn't matter what party a candidate is from, it matters what their real intent is when they get elected. Are they really wanting to serve The People, or are they opportunists who are vying to serve themselves by just toeing the party line on everything.

I'd rather have an Honest to God Patriotic moderate Republican who is willing to cross the aisle and work out a compromise solution in a true Bi-Partisan effort, than to have a hardline Democrat who always does what the Party tells him to do no matter if it's good for the people or not.

There are Democrats who aren't worth much, just like the poster boy for worthless Republican party hacks, Senator Mitch McConnell who isn't worth a warm bucket of spit!

You know what I mean?

Let's vote in REAL representatives of The People instead of Party Hacks, from whichever party they are technically in. Okay?

You're right Bruce. That's a good point. If there is an honest moderate Republican willing to cross the aisle and work for the good of the country, and is running for election or re-election, please let me know. It seems that here in Florida all the Republicans are running on the same platform of being the "most" conservative (which loosely translates into cutting the most public services and eliminating the most regulations).

In theory, of course, there's nothing wrong with being a real conservative. In practice, however, they seem to march in lock step. Democrats, on the other hand, don't seem to do this as much; too many different issues. Getting Democrats to march in lock step is about as hard as herding cats.

I think I'd rather have a majority of Democrats compromising with each other for the good of the country.

Larry-nc,

Regarding your point number five, that's a tough one.

I'm torn on Romney's Mormonism, uncertain as to whether it is more a cult than a faith, but the same argument can probably be made about all religions.

Is Mormonism inconsistent with democratic ideals? Is Mormonism akin to a rejection of Christianity, or simply a loose derivation thereof?

Would the righties go nuts if THEY understood more about Mormonism and what it might bring to the White House and the country?

Anybody?

OK. What’s Mitt’s known successes over the years?

He made his money by leading floundering companies back to profitability. Which is just what our country needs today.

He founded Bain Capital which manages approximately $65 billion in assets, and has founded, acquired, or invested in hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Toys R Us, Unisource, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.

He was behind the start up of Staples. Starting with one store in 1986, Staples now is the world's largest office products company with $24 billion in sales in 2009.

There were a handful of companies in which jobs were lost, but the jobs created by all the others number in the hundreds of thousands ... hundreds of thousands of US workers.

What is even more noteworthy is the fact that he never blamed the previous management for his own difficulties – he just fixed what was wrong.

And his biggest success: Romney has already created more US jobs than Obama has!

Why are you guys hung up on someone's Religious beliefs? I thought we got over that crap back in 1959 when that DREADED CATHOLIC KENNEDY was running for President.

Do you fine upstanding Liberals know that Harry Reid is a MORMON???

Yeah, yeah. We know Harry Reid is a Mormon. Hey, it was probably a fellow Mormon in the know that gave Reid the inside scoop that Mitt has not paid taxes in ten years (just kidding!).

But seriously, MSNBCMFE raises some thought provoking issues:

Is Mormonism more of a cult than a faith (and couldn't the same argument be made about all religions? -- sorry about the paraphrase). My answer is I think it is a matter of degree; I think a religion helps to edify, or improve, a person, and a cult would be more properly be understood as isolating and controlling a person. So, I think that not all religions are "cults". So the answer would be found in questioning if Mormonism is inclusive or exclusive.

2. Is Mormonism inconsistent with democratic ideals? I really don't know enough about the doctrine to say yes or no for sure.

3. Is Mormonism akin to a rejection of Christianity, or simply a loose derivation thereof? I would say both, because if you get into the doctrine of Christianity there is no room whatsoever for Mormonism. However, to be fair, most Christian faiths are a loose derivation of Christianity.

4. Would the righties go nuts if they understood more about Mormonism....? Hell yes! Just think about magic underwear that prevents (an all-powerful) God from seeing you naked! Magic glasses that can only be used by one man to read words that only he can see (no-one else can use the glasses either). Polygamy! Space aliens that put you in charge of other worlds when you die -- if, of course, you have tithed enough of your money to promote the Mormon church. Yeah, they would go nuts, if they could understand.

I dont give a @!$%# what is in Romney's tax returns...

Romney unvailed his plan to jumpstart the economy yesterday and his plan makes one helluvalot more sense than Obama's last three and a half years! You can't distort the important issues forever...

I haven't seen a presidential ass kicking since Regan rolled over Jimmy Carter back in 1980 and this one is shaping up to be just like it!!!

Go Romney 2012!!! Yeah Baby!!!

Daniel: You are repeating yourself. This country never had Regan as a President

Daniel Streibig -- I get it that you're not interested in the truth. I get it. But how does stating that contribute anything to the conversation? Sometimes I consider putting you on "ignore".

Yo Danny-Boyo! Don Regan never "rolled over Jimmy Carter." as you say. Donald Regan, worked for Ronald Reagan as his CoS, and was actually fired by Nancy Reagan. (Nancy) Reagan rolled over Regan!

The rest of your comment lacks credibility when you don't even know the difference between Regan and Reagan!

But, more to the point, let's say Mitt finally turned over his tax returns and it turns out that for the past 10 years he has been making contributions to the American National Socialist Party (Am. NAZI's). Would YOU care about his tax returns then?

I bet you would!

You want to bet TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THAT?

What kind of economy would we have if ALL AMERICANS stashed their money off shore like Robme????????
He will be our roll model so ALL AMERICANS should move ALL their money off shore and use every trick in the TAX CODE to not pay any taxes.

MSN

I repeat.

Why are you hung up on someone's Religious beliefs? I thought we got over that crap back in 1959 when that DREADED CATHOLIC KENNEDY was running for President.

Do you fine upstanding Liberals know that Harry Reid is a MORMON???

MSNBCMFE

Not unless being a closet Muslim from Kenya is...

So danny equates Mormonism with Islam? In his view, then, neither should be President. Thanks for the input, danny.

Now Daniel, you post something you obviously know is false. Or maybe you don't. The point is, you're not contributing to the conversation. I'm starting to seriously consider the "ignore" option again.

• slodon, Do you fine upstanding Republicans know that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii???

Maria, the Tax Policy Center is headed up by one of OBummer's old staff members!!! Its a left-wing propaganda spreading bunch of losers that couldn't get a job in the private sector...

Maria

I see you still can't pull your head out of Obama's butt.

Maria,

It's good to have a free-thinker adding to the conversation. We appreciate your perspective.

Dang, Daniel. "Obummer"? That's strike three. I'm putting you on ignore. Bye, Daniel.

I'm just cleaning up my little world one step at a time.

Maria, the Tax Policy Center is headed up by one of OBummer's old staff members!!! Its a left-wing propaganda spreading bunch of losers that couldn't get a job in the private sector...

Um, Daniel, hate to be the one that provides you with actual facts, but the Tax Policy Center is headed by Director Donald Marron, who was one of the principals on George W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisers.

Maria

I just did a search on the Romney Tax Plan. And EVERY article referenced the TPC report. So there is only THEIR opinion being reported as truth. I wonder why that is?? Could it be some biased reporting by ABC,CBS,CNN,NBC and others???

slodon - "...Could it be some biased reporting by ABC,CBS,CNN,NBC and others???"

Oh my gosh!!! It's got to be another conspiracy to get poor FUD-womney!!

Those waskily weporters!

Slodon, why is it, that every fact has to be spin just for the sake of spinning, the report in question was authored by an Obama liberal and a Bush conservative. That is what is called a balanced report. I know that compromise is a bad word now for an average Republican. Just imagine that we have only one way streets, how do you come back home in a 100 mile long avenue without a side street?

MSN

Why don't you ask Harry Reid that question? He is a Mormon.

I would, actually, if he were here, but I'm looking for other views as well. Whether it applies to Mittens or to Reid, is Mormonism merely another religion among many or does it have specific intentions regarding policy? Just asking, slodon, geez....you don't have to get your panties in a a bunch.

MSN

You're the one with your knickers in a bunch over Mormonism.

No, I'm just asking in what form or fashion Mormonism might drive political policy-making. No judgment involved...just asking. So far, no one seems too concerned, so that's good. However, we've yet to hear from non-Mormon females on this forum...if there ARE any, and perhaps they might have a different viewpoint.

"Freedom of religion" does not shield a presidential candidate from being asked questions about their religion. It merely prohibits the government from restricting the free exercise thereof.

JFK, whom some nutjob referenced earlier, went so far as to openly state that his loyalty was to the United States, first and foremost. Is Mittens loyalty the same?

"JFK, whom some nutjob referenced earlier, went so far as to openly state that his loyalty was to the United States, first and foremost. Is Mittens loyalty the same"

Mittens' loyalty is to his money and to his corporate pimps!

So I noticed.