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Subscribe to RSSORLANDO, FL – President Barack Obama on Thursday once again highlighted a study that says Mitt Romney would raise taxes on the middle class in order to cut taxes for the wealthy. Obama also dismissed claims that the study was politically motivated.
For the second day in a row, the president mentioned a study by the Tax Policy Center that concluded presumptive Republican presidential nominee Romney would have to raise taxes on families making less than $250,000 in order to stay revenue neutral after implementing large tax cuts elsewhere.
“This analysis also found that if Gov. Romney wants to keep his word and pay for his plan so that he does not increase the deficit even more, the average middle class family with children would be stuck with a tax increase of more than $2,000,” Obama told a crowd of 2,400 in a gymnasium at the scenic lakeside Rollins College.
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Supporters cheer President Barack Obama at a campaign event Thursday at Rollins College in Orlando, Fla.
Obama also defended the study’s independence, something the Romney campaign put in question, noting on Thursday that the report was co-written by a former member of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers.
While Obama did not mention that co-author’s name, Adam Looney, he did note that a member of President George W. Bush’s economic team, William Gale, also worked on the report.
“First they said well this is a liberal organization despite the fact that it’s headed by an economist who worked for George Bush,” he said.
Gale is listed on the Tax Policy Center’s website as a co-director of the center. Gale, like Looney, also works at the Brookings Institution, which is affiliated with the Tax Policy Center.
“This is an organization that’s headed by an economist who worked for President Bush. All right? So this was not my opinion,” he said.
Obama also chided the Romney campaign for saying the report did not take into account the economic growth that the Republican challenger says would occur under his plan.
“Then they said that the study failed to fully take into account the massive economic boom that would come from cutting taxes on the wealthiest Americans and the biggest corporations. Because we all know how well that worked out the last time we tried,” he said sarcastically.
“They have tried to sell us this trickle-down, tax-cut fairy dust before,” he continued.
Obama got the crowd laughing at that line, but earlier they were the ones amusing him, as they broke out in an impromptu version of “Happy Birthday” to recognize the president’s 51st celebration coming up Saturday.
The president thanked the crowd, telling the audience he had a very specific birthday wish in this key battleground state.
“If I knew you guys were going to sing, we would have had a cake. I would have blown out the candle.
“I would have made a wish. It probably would have had to do with electoral votes,” he joked.
The Obama campaign knows that in order to make that wish come true for Florida’s 29 electoral votes, it needs to do well with Hispanic voters, which might be one of the reasons the president stopped at Lechonera el Barrio, a Puerto Rican restaurant, before his speech, where he picked up several plates of meat, beans and rice and chatted with a few dozen patrons inside.
The president planned to continue a campaign-centric day with a speech in Leesburg, Va.
Related: Obama charges Romney plan would raise taxes on middle class
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Hmmm... let's see...?
Is this the same Tax Policy Center that only a few short months ago Team Willard was praising for their impartiality? lol
Those damn FACTS can be a pesky thing...
PS: My bags are packed & I'm ready to go! This time tomorrow the lefty liberal treehouse gang be celebrating at a real bar instead of a virtual one! ;o)
Feisty,
Today, Romney's spokeperson is all over the Tax Policy Center, saying that they misunderstand what Romney is really saying.... lots of retroactive speak.
Just printed my boarding pass. I will buy the first round tomorrow at the party.....
Feisty & Northstar - have a GREAT time and send an e-mail every once in a while! Wish I was able to get away and join you. Next year for sure!!!!!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
PS: My bags are packed & I'm ready to go! This time tomorrow the lefty liberal treehouse gang be celebrating at a real bar instead of a virtual one! ;o)
Feisty, Bon Voyage my friend. In case I 'm not on line tomorrow you and the lefty liberal tree house gang all have a safe trip. I and the other lefties will hold this fort down until you all get back.
Enjoy ⺠⺠âº
seeking,
Absolutely, we will meet next year.
righty - quote basically everything the GOP has put out for the past 3 1/2 years and we'll talk about hypocrisy - the biggest bunch of hypocrites ever. But of course you like them. whoda thunk it?
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Happy Birthday, Mr. President.
Feisty & Northstar
Well at least going to a real bar might give you and the other lefties a dose of reality instead of the dreamland you currently live in although I doubt that a quick brush with the real world in the company of your posse will have any significant effect on your abilities to function as normal people.
In any event safe travels to all of you and have fun!!
i wouldnt count on it REB... the dumfux will be three sheets to the wind and still in lala land..
REB,
I really don't think Vegas hotels are reality....more of fantasy land.
I mean a hotel with a a replica of the Venice canal? In the middle of a desert?
thank you for your kind wishes, and we will have fun!
Thank you Mr. President for hitting Romney where it hurts. Don't forget those tax returns. American does not need a bone fided LIAR to be the our President and leader of the Free World.
Reasons to Vote Against Mitt Romney
#1: Mitt Romney a decade ago, 10 years ago. Asked by "The Boston Globe"
when he was running for governor of Massachusetts about why he listed
himself as a Utah resident and not a Massachusetts resident on his taxes,
Mr. Romney told "The Globe" 10 years ago, just like he told ABC this week,
that he would look into it, he would find out what is in his taxes and he
would get back to them on it. Quoting from "The Globe", "Asked whether he received any advantages in
Utah by filing as a full-time resident there in 1999 and 2000, `Mr. Romney
said he was not sure but would respond to specific questions in writing.
If you want to say was there any tax benefit anywhere, you ought to help me
understand what that would mean and I would be happy to look at it,` Mr.
Romney said. `I will get precisely the answer that you`d like and but have
to tell me exactly what you want and I`ll make sure I get that for you.`" Still quoting from "The Globe" here, "But after a reporter submitted written questions to a campaign aide, Mr. Romney spokesman, Eric Fehrnstrom said Mr. Romney would not be responding because, quote, `he values his
privacy and his wife`s privacy.
What "The Boston Globe was trying to get to there 10 years ago was
whether or not Mitt Romney was qualified to be the governor of
Massachusetts. Not in some abstract political sense but literally
qualified. Whether he met the written qualifications that you have to meet
in order to be allowed to run for governor of Massachusetts.
#2: Romney said he "didn't notice" that Utah had him listed as a resident and gave him a $38,000 break on his property taxes. Anyone think he would have noticed a $38,000 increase? Did he illegally try to claim both states as his residence in order to maintain eligibility to run for office both places? We'll never know, because he refuses to release his income tax statements.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48468227/ns/msnbc-rachel_maddow_show/#.UBsiYKPN100
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In addition to not possibly not paying taxes for ten years did Romney commit Voter Fraud?
Romney embarrassed us enough on his mis-adventure posturing as having capable Foreign policy expertise.
4morefor 44
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Beverly you said we dont need a bona fide liar as pres yet we have a sitting one that argued that ACA wasn't a tax yet its only legal if it is a tax? Care to rephrase.
Caesar - we had a bona fide liar in Bush and now you want to put the biggest liar of all time - Romney in office? You people have no integrity!~ And, clearly no idea of anything!
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Hey feisty the Red Communist, instead of getting drunk tomorrow, why don't you get out and look for a job? Why are you unemployed? BTW, do you think you will be able to use your food stamps at a bar? hahahahahahaha
Tony - when you spout the job nonsense it shows how low intelligent YOU are! And, the hahahahahaha - just looks like you're insane. But, as I always say - seeking sanity in the GOP but people like you prove there is absolutely NONE to be found!
Beverly - just how stupid does someone have to be to not know where they LIVE????? And, this is the BEST the GOP has to offer???? How pitiful!
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Romney said it wasn't a tax either for many years. Does that make him a liar too? Or was he just expressing his opinion just like President Obama and the supreme court decided it was a tax?
Maybe Romney went back and retroactively changed what he had been saying for years?
Caesar Augustus-
Beverly you said we dont need a bona fide liar as pres yet we have a sitting one that argued that ACA wasn't a tax yet its only legal if it is a tax? Care to rephrase.
Caesar Augustus,
What we need is the real leader we have now in the White House; President Obama. Romney couldn't find his way out of paper bag as evidenced by his gaffes in London, Israel and Poland.
Romney never knows what's best because he's out of touch. President Obama isn't.
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4morefor44
hey seeking, since you say i have no integrity care to enlighten me? take the challenge i gave beverly. Bush was bad but he aint in office but Hussein is and i will keep pointing out how much he loves his Bush. Just take a look at the same policies that he kept (promised to get rid of, would that be a lie?)
The political IQ of Las Vegas will drop several notches this weekend I suppose.... but boilermakers will see a surge.... say hi to dingy Harry Reid, he favors the off strip dives that you do carrot top!
Barry's birthday gift to the country would an early retirement and move back to Chicago... the remnants of Acorn need organizers these days!
Bevevly gaffes? you didnt build that? 57 states? Its not a tax?
So seekingsanity, you think having a job is non-sense? No wonder you are insane. How old are you ? 6
Qualifications to be Governor of Massachusetts:
A candidate for the governorship must be a registered elector in the state and have been a resident for at least seven years before taking office.
From the Massachusetts state constitution.
The Romneys lived in Belmont, Massachusetts for 30 years and sold the residence in 2009.
But let's keep talking about anything and everything that deflects from Obama's failed Presidency.
The rightwing desperation and vitriol is ramping up as anticipated.
Conservative Rebellion -- The residency must be continuous, and this is not deflection but rather a very important point about Romney's record, and the nation needs to thoroughly vet any candidate especially for president. This was a big controversy then, and it is still a big problem in regard to how trustworthy Mitt Romney is -- this along with a list of questionable flip-flops and behavior like taking the hard drives when he left as governor.
Conservative - He DID not live there for 30 years. Ask ANYONE in Mass! That's such a joke!
No Tony - since I work I don't think having a job is nonsense. I just think your spouting off the way you do about stupid idiotic things - is total nonsense. But, everyone knows you're useless!
Beverly - Queen Annie's horse is in 13th place after the first round! Clearly needs more therapy!
True Patriot - when your candidate is as pathetic as Romney - all you can do is deflect, lie and act like a child. Look at Tony, Caesar and Conservative - they prove my point completely!
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Good Point TruePat. good point.
You know - ramping up, like the unemployment and debt numbers.
And of course unlike the GDP numbers.
Say it with me TruePat - tomorrow is going to be a very bad day for O, given the July jobs numbers.
Better break out the some gay marriage, Mitt's tax returns, and Anne's horse memes, right?
You bet.
Ah, look-y Seeking Sanity beat me to it.
How utterly predictable.
Catch you all tomorrow. It's going to be grand.
feisty, I hope you all have a good time in Las Vegas. Be safe
I have plenty of friends that would donate all their 'obama bucks' to pay for his bus ride back to Chicago for his birthday.... thanks to him, they have no jobs, nor any prospects.
How long has it been now that he has avoided meeting with his 'Jobs Council'? 8 months? More....?
SeekingSanity
Beverly - just how stupid does someone have to be to not know where they LIVE????? And, this is the BEST the GOP has to offer???? How pitiful!
Yup, that's the per-schooler IQ for the T-bagger and presumed tax tax-dodger presidential candidate; MYTH Romney.
Girlfriend,
I'm beginning to believe Mitt maybe experiencing a little early dementia. David Corn said on MSNBC Romney told him doing an interview he didn't say something(I forgot the specifies). Anyhow, David Corn said he went back to check the tapes and found that Mitt had lied.
I'm beginning to wonder, apart from the lies, does Mitt actually forget? Certainly we don't nee another LIAR and Alzheimer President. Reagan was enough.
4morefor44
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True Patriot- Vitriol? I bet you dont know what that even means, if you did you would see seeking or are you saying seeking is rightwing? Im starting to think you dont even know who is on your team or what team you are even on.
Holy cow, what a nauseating whiff of something... A troll must be in here going off topic and trying to be a Legend In His Own Mind in an attempt at wit.
Caesar Augustus-
Bevevly gaffes? you didnt build that? 57 states? Its not a tax?
Yes gaffes, Caesar.
"MYTH"Romney is a gaffe-o-matic machine.
Romney: My tax plan ‘frankly can’t be scored'
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/07/romney-my-tax-plan-frankly-cant-be-scored/
The Tax Policy Center showed that Romney's tax plan would force middle-class taxpayers to foot the bill for Romney's proposed tax breaks for the wealthy.
"MYTH" Romney is a joke
This is going to be a huge problem for the Romney campaign in addition to his taxes, Bain, SEC. 2002 Olympics, possible voter fraud, and of his LIES!!!
4morefor44
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you can smell over a computer? perhaps you forgot deodorant? halitosis? but d-bag true patriot, please tell me where you were ever on topic? wait whats the topic? fisty goes to vegas?
Medical records
Yes, Romney needs to show his medical records.
Seems he has short term memory loss.
The President does not need to quote speculation from a study. He can ask Romney directly as to whether he plans to raise taxes on the "middle class". Of course, the President's own health care law violates the President's promise in that regard.
Romney has been exposed as the lying scumbag he is ! America now knows he can't be trusted !.He can't show his tax returns because 75% of his money is hidden in foreign countries to avoid paying taxes ! How American is that ?
dont wet yourself there... a real bar is a step up from make believe though...tell mark murray we said hi.
Caesar - what are you 10? Your posts actually aren't worthy of a 10 year old
like i told GOPExtinct earlier, if you only you knew the definition of irony
Caesar - I know you won't understand this, but most of us have the intelligence you lack so we know the meaning of words over 4 letters- unlike you!
yep ya got me, its almost like im rubber your glue. Intelligent indeed
Caesar - you keep coming up with childish sayings - you really are 10, aren't ya?
See, that's how we know Sanity is super smart - she keeps telling us.
Now, some may find it odd that she feels compelled to keep telling us how smart she is, as opposed to showing us, but that's just our Sanity, still Seeking and all.
Spanky - shouldn't you be telling us EXACTLY what is going to happen so we can expect the polar opposite?
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i see that spanky. tell the lie long enough you start to believe it. something tells me it is what it is. a lie.
SeekingSanity -- He seems a little wasted maybe? Certainly not a compliment to our education system.
Do we really need a Republican president like Romney who will end up resigning in disgrace, like Richard Nixon?
Bruce - he wouldn't have enough integrity to resign -he'd have to be run out of office!
the righty - and you right wingers just come in staggering drunk!
Hey Righty, better koolaid than tea.
So Adler - you no like-y the Boston Tea Party?
Those guys just flat wrong all those years ago?
Say, how is the Occupy Movement coming along these days?
Hey Romney, how about cutting taxes for the middle class for a change? Collectively, we spend a lot more money than your filthy rich buddies.
Romney is not the POTUS..............yet. He cannot cut anything............yet. He will be much better than HIDEN HUSSEIN.
If you are going to Vegas Fiesty have fun!
But be careful I know a guy that went to Vegas in a $60,000 dollar Cadillac, then came home on a $250,000 dollar bus.
i wouldnt worry forrest, im pretty sure the casinos dont take ebt.
Forrest - good one!
Clearly Caesar is jealous. More of the GOP bs! They know sooooo much about the programs they spout off about. Much more than I do. Clearly they participate in them!
its not rocket science... let me guess, you graduated Sigma Cum Laude too?
Caesar - unlike you - I graduated! My guess is you never made it through elementary school - clearly college was a no-no!
again with the 'im rubber your glue' bit. and you have the nerve to call me 10. dumfux LOL
Seeking graduated?
From a divorce court?
Spanky - of course that makes no sense but totally what we expect from a "lawyer" like you!
Never been divorced but my guess is you have been - lots of times!
yes spanky, seeking graduated but indeed the question is from what?
Spanky-
Seeking graduated?
From a divorce court?
Spanky
See how learned this joker Spanky isn't?
Say Spanky do you consider yourself to be a pretty smart guy? You are a businessman right. Do you know how much as a percentage you paid in taxes? If you did not know off the top of your head (which I suspect you do) how long would it take for you to get that info. Then how little sense does it make that a so called financial wizard and powerhouse of businessman like Romney continue to claim he does not know what his tax percentage was, and seems either just unable or unwilling to produce that info. Would you as a lawyer be able to represent a client that was not truthful with you, and was unwilling to gave you the honest information about his income, assets and past tax liability? I am guessing the answer to that for several reasons including ethical ones among others is no. So if you would not even be able to represent Romney as a client due to ethical reasons, how in the world can you justify supporting him for the highest office in the land. I would really like to know how that works, he is to risky and deceitful to be a client, but a great choice for president. Set me straight on this Spanky. Romney refuses to release or discuss his taxes, he is basically "taking the fifth" on this subject, what is it again that you have always said about people who take the fifth? So how is it that Romney gets a pass from you.
Fox is mainstream media. Are they on his side too? Would Rupert Murdoch be on his side?
Unless they are drooling with praise and kissy kissy over every little thing some GOPer does they are biased to the left. Good grief!
So if they constantly attacked Obama and the Democrats would that make them more fair and balanced? No matter how much of it is lies?
Obama addressing his drones on Thursday:
"Ummmmmm,errrrrrrrrr,Let me be clear.......ummmmmmmm.....Romney......wants to raise taxes on poor people.
This..........errrrrrrrrrrrr, ummmmmmmmmmm.......report says it's......ummmmm.....so. And no! It is not true that my appointees...........ummmmmm......who owe me everything......along with Valerie Jarrett's cousins.....
ummmmm......compiled this report. That's.....ummmm....as ridiculous.....errrrr....as saying my administration allowed guns to walk to Mexican drug cartels without oversight........ummmmm.....that's just those evil rich people......ummmmmm........saying that to take your hard earned...........errrrrrrrr.......welfare without work benefits. Hate them, not me!"
Conservative Rebellion
The weird part is that I believe you actually heard Obama say those things word for word.
Absolutely. Separating the truth from the lies.
Conservative - Romney knows no truth - just a bunch of lies!
blackcat - you know Republicans have selective hearing - they turn anything that is said into what they want it to be. Very sad people.
Conservative, but at the same time you are not the least bit concerned that your presidential candidate is hiding his tax returns from you. Yes or No question. Did you ever pay less that 13.9% tax rate? Romney "Let me get back to you on that".
Then he doesn't because he must have paid less, maybe a lot less. Otherwise he would have happily said No. If there wasn't something really bad, Romney would gladly release his tax returns.
It seems it much more important to you to come here and repeat the republicans talking lies. Nobody allowed guns to walk, guns walk because the gun laws are so bad we aren't allowed to stop them brought to you by the NRA.
Good lord without all the republicans wacky conspiracy theories they wouldn't have any lies to tell.
VOTE FOR SANITY...VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT 2012
No, it doesn't bother me a bit that he doesn't release more of his tax returns? Why should it? I'm not one of those weird occupy types who thinks that my success or failure is directly tied to how successful Mitt Romney is and buys into the meme of class warfare.
Does it bother you that Obama has hidden all his records. Paid out lots of money to secrete them? Does it bother you that his "mentor" was a card carrying communist party member and his friend and confidante a radical domestic terrorist who attempted to murder dozens of people?
I'm fairly certain you have paid less than 13.9% in taxes all of your tax paying life. Can I see your returns?
blackcatwhitecat -- He just hears voices in his head.
Hey Feisty the Red Communist. You will look pretty foolish going to a blackjack table and putting a book of food stamps in the betting circle. hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Tony - you're a pathetic excuse for a human being.
Whatever you are seeking, I hope you do find sanity. You pathetic communist moocher.
Tony Smith 7734
Pssst Tony, do ya really want to get under Firsty's skin and pissed off at ya? Ignore her. It works. I promise.
Tony - Ohhhhhh the "communist" word - now we know you're a pitiable little Republican who just spouts the Beck, Limbaugh stupidity. It must be sad to not have an original thought!
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Some people are so indoctrinated and unaware of current events and recent history that it is not worth reading their opinion. Those are the ones chosen to be "Ignored".
Conservative Rebellion
I could not agree more. I am very pleased that you have chosen to ignore yourself. Hopefully many others will follow your lead and join you in oblivion.
"You didn't build that", HUSSEIN chastising hard working and successful Americans. JULY 2012
It will be on the bumper of millions of hard working people's cars until Jan 20, 2013
I used the same method and found out that Obama is going to raise taxes on the poor by $2,600 a year!
If they bothered to listen to his frontline surrogates that is exactly (adjusted figure maybe) what they intend to do. It's how Obama operates. Send someone out first to "mention" the idea in passing. Then, in a move that would embarass King George, make it happen by fiat.
All Hail King O!
ike - you really should learn to comprehend actual words.
You need to stop responding to everyone that does not share your opinion. You are quite the typical democrat-communist. Get a job and stop blogging 24/7. You look foolish, I mean you are foolish.
Tony,
Gotten your head out of your anal aperature yet? Just askin'
So Fiesty dumbfux ,red on the noodle like the dick of a poodle, is coming to my town.
Hey red, don't try working the streets near downtown. The local pimps don't like competition.
You would be better walking the streets just west of the strip. You may fit in better there too.
she's better off finding Joe Conforte down in South America. So the paid blogger gets vacay time and it is going to get slammed like trailer trash...outstanding!
Joseph E. Parent
Now that we all know which section of town you shop for sex in, I am sure that Fiesty will avoid the area like a plague.
Wow. Joseph E. Parent & Caesar Augustus. Two more people that I will use the "ignore" option with. I don't mind listening to people I disagree with, but you have nothing to say. To attempt to degrade a woman like that would get your *** kicked in my neck of the woods.
Bye.
All MSNBS does is post stories about Romney. Why don't they post stories about HUSSEIN. And why don't Hussein's followers tout the great job HUSSEIN is doing. All I see here are the democrat-communist slugs talking about a horse, Romney's tax returns, and Bain Capitol. Let's talk about 17.9 % real unemployment, inflation, foreclosures, $5 Trillion of new debt, 49 million Americans on food stamps and why HUSSEIN will not release his sealed records. Then we can discuss HUSSEIN and HOLDER and their gun running operation in which they helped murder 2 ICE agents. Then on to his secret little war in Syria. Then, on to a credit downgrade. LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED.
can't afford obamass lavish vacations and spending. vote the monkey out
I do not understand why the President needs to quote a study. He should ask Romney directly if he is going to raise taxes on the "non rich". What the President needs to do is discuss his own plans. The President promised that federal taxes would not be raised, in any way, on 95% of Americans, but the health care law violates that promise. The President presented the stimulus bill as the solution to America's unemployment problem but according to a report issued by the President's own administration, unemployment has been worse than if the stimulus bill had never been passed. The President said that deficit spending was bad and he vowed to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. To keep his promise the 2012 federal deficit cannot exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet his own White House is predicting that the deficit will exceed 1.3 trillion dollars. I want the President to tell the American people how he is going to keep his promise regarding the deficit. I want the President to present a plan for paying back all of this money that the federal government owes. The taxpayers should know how much all this debt is going to end up costing them.
The President needs to be reminded of some words of wisdom that were spoken back in March of 2006. The words were as true then as they are today.
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006
Can’t wait to see what happens when the Florida voters find out what Obamacare is going to do with medicare… Woohoo!!!
$500 Billion Dollars is a lot of medicare!!
Woohoo... let's throw grandma off the cliff, she don't need the money!!
I thought Obama was supposed to be the environmental
president. Tell me something, would a socialist do
gooder left wing environmentalist president have
wasted a few million good trees on a twenty seven
hundred page roll of toilet paper called Obamacare?