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Subscribe to RSSWith the Republican and Democratic conventions set to begin in less than a month, NBC's Mark Murray and Domenico Montanaro discuss the two keynote speakers -- San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, a Democrat, and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, a Republican, who are seen as rising stars in their parties.
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Congratulations, Brocton, for having your question chosen.
Hey Amy, I'm with Julian Castro.
Mayor Castro said:
"Republicans haven't just departed from the mainstream, they've departed from mainstream values.
Since when does cutting health care for children make you the party of family values?
Since when does denying women their basic rights make you the party of freedom and liberty?"
Backrub, too bad those things aren't true.
Anyone else going to Chick-fil-A on Friday to watch lesbians making out?
Should be a great side show to enjoy my sandwich with.
LOL
Nasty and false.
About sums up your party's strategy and direction.
At the risk of offending pretty much everyone here, I actually think both these men will be really good choices for their respective parties in terms of highlighting their party's message and platform.
Oh, and hey, guys - thanks for the reminder about that crazy Zell Miller (and yes, that was the right word!) and his speech:
"And like you, I ask which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower, and, yes, the backbone to best protect my family? The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you tonight. For my family is more important than my Party. There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust their future and that man's name is George W. Bush."
"President Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorist -- no matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under. George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip."
"I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel -- the man I trust to protect my most precious possession: my family."
And oh, yeah - maybe the first, last and only GOP keynote speech to ever invoke Ronald Reagan less than it invoked......Wendell Wilkie. I doubt Chris Christie will do the same thing.....
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/convention2004/zellmiller2004rnc.htm
Backhouse - What's nasty and false is Senator Harry Reid claiming an unidentified Bain Investor told him Romney paid no income taxes for 10 years. Now that is a LIE and why a sitting Senator would make such an accusation only shows how really desperate the Democrats are.
Come on Dingy Harry where is your source, name, time, place. Can't answer then I suggest Dingy Harry STFC. As leader of the Senate he should let the low life of the left make that unfounded accusation, but then Harry is the low life of the left.
sfcret -
What Senator Reid stated is no different than the comments about Obama being a muslim, or born in Kenya, or any of the other swift boat tactics that republicans have employed for the past 12 years to win elections. Because there is no difference in these behaviors, logically you would have to agree that the republicans employing such tactics are low lifes and desperate. Correct?
Congratulations, Brockton for having your question selected. Makes it a little harder to accuse FR of bias, doesn't it?
zarlot, none of those you mentioned are the majority senate leader are they?
Tzalaran - Read my post again I said "As leader of the Senate, he should let the low life of the left make that unfounded accusation."
Now show me where any REPUBLICAN LEADER in the Senate or House making comments about Obama being a Muslim or born in Kenya or other so called "swift boat tactics.
I would agree that any REPUBLICAN LEADER employing such tactic would be a low life and desperate. I can't hold all Republicans responsible for their statements, but I can if they are elected leaders of my party. I expect more from elected officials but then Dingy Harry is a low life POS.
What are we arguing about fellows. Mittwit going to get his ass kicked regardless of who the key note speaker is.....
Obama/Biden 2012
sfcret
What is it that you do not understand about the complicity of silence?
Backhouse - great post and you're right on target!
Obama/Biden 2012
Tzalaran -- Your logic is too complex for rightwingers -- maybe if you used Glenn Beck's chalkboard? Though I would argue it is still a false equivalency to compare Birther conspiracy with known facts about Romney's taxes.
What's even more HI-larious is sfcret's response proving ignorance in regard to Batcrap Bachmann and several other Teapublicans claiming infiltration of the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House, not to mention Alan Keye's claim of "78 to 81 members of the Democrat Party that are members of the Communist Party." And that's just the tip of the iceberg -- entire books have been written on such rightwing nonsense.
That the leadership in the GOP/TP fail to control their members, time and again, with Cantor and others complicit at times, is really bad. Reid is known for "no drama" and has a record of credibility, but regardless we know there are years Romney paid little or no taxes, regardless of how many years.
Instead of making excuses for Mr. Romney:
Tell him to do what his what his father did, GWB did, HWB did and all the others who ran for President.
They all showed their tax returns.
Romney is trying to run on being a human being who gets special treatment, and I am having a lot of suspicions about his birth certificate.
If Romney put his money in municipal bonds, maybe he didn't pay taxes for a few years. The tax laws are so tough on the "job creators". If they take a slightly reduced rate on qualifying municipal bonds, they pay no tax on the income. Take 200 million and multiply it by 3% and you get 6 million in tax free money. That was the investment strategy of the Newport Old Money types forever.
On the other hand, maybe his taxes show that a boatload of money went into his Cayman Island accounts on every new moon, with deductions for payments to Smoker and Thumper. That is what is left to the imagination. Bobble head might not be able to bobble through this.
Hey, my Chick-fil-A sandwich was delicious.
Makes me wonder just what kind of special sauce you used on it redsux.
Just the hot sauce. If you were trying to make some sort of homophobic joke it really doesn't make any sense whatsoever. hint, the gays are boycotting Chick-fil-A.
Just wanted to see how fast you'd jump on it.
You know it's kinda like the Haggerty thing. Preaching so much against homosexuals and we know how that turned out. So when I hear someone go out of their way to demonstrate how opposed they are to a particular matter, it makes wonder just how guilty they are themselves.
Franky, were did I say I was against a particular matter. I just said I had a delicious sandwich. But since you seem to be inferring something, again, I will say I am 100% for free speech.
I take it you are one of the libby hypocrites that is only for free speech as long as it agrees with your viewpoint.
I'm boycotting Chick fil A and I'm not gay. It is very difficult for me because I am a huge fan of Chick fil A but I can't live with contributing to their profits for it to be used to fund campaigns against gay marriage. I don't have a loud voice but I do have consumer dollars to spend.
Steeler Fan - Can of childish on your part but I am sure your business will not be missed. This topic really has nothing to do with the business, it was the CEO that was expressing his 1st Amendment Rights to free speech. He was not speaking for the Business.
The man has his right to say what he wants. Its his First Amendment Right. Its my right to boycott his business. I will not support a business who damns his fellow man. All you righties go support his business thats your right. The rightwing of this country is becoming the American Taliban.
Really Smitty? Seems like the libbys are the ones that don't want anyone to have a First Amendment rights unless it agrees with theirs.
Feel free to eat elsewhere, but don't try to say that it is the right that is trying to limit Free Speech here. That is outright stupid.
RedSoxRule
And you are just going there to watch the lesbians? Just like you just read the articles in Penthouse? I don't know if you are right or left handed but one of them is full of blisters. What a wanker you are, as useless as balls on a cow.
redsux That is outright stupid.
Nothing I said in my post had anything to do with limiting free speech. Go back and reread it slowly and you will see. Thats what happens when you read something to fast. Son you have your head so far up your ass & you can't see for all the s#it.
RedsoxRule
I am going to hear Mike Huckabee's sermon on how Mormon's are a "cult."
Never mind that was so 2008.
I am from the Christian Left.
Smitty - you know how the far right has to have something to carp about - so, if there's nothing they make it up! They are so filled with hate they just make up what isn't there!
Smitty, do you have a memory disorder? Look at the last sentence you wrote dimwit. You are accusing the right as being the Taliban (don't think they were big on free speech). You libbys spew nonsense so much I guess you forget what you write. Or did you have someone write if for you since you can't seem to formulate an opinion on your own. Like most libbys. LOL
Buckwheat, I am going for a sandwich and a show. Maybe you can catch two guys making out since that seems to be your interest.
RedSoxRule
Buckwheat? I prefer Alfalfa if that is where you are going. Be sure to spread the ooze of your lust on the chicken. White meat only I am guessing.
redsux Please don't choke on your sandwich. Are you going to the show with Fred Willard? With all your talk of gays today it seems to be more of your interest.
My father taught me that I have Freedom of Speech. He also taught me that what I do not have is freedom from the consequences of what I say.
Remember when Hank Williams got dropped from his spot on Monday Night Football because he made a comment comparing Speaker Boehner playing golf with President Obama to Benjamin Netanyahu playing golf with Adolf Hitler?
Remember when The Dixie Chicks were pulled from country radio stations because Natalie Maines criticized President Bush?
In neither case was anyone arrested for the comments that were made. However, there were still consequences because of what was said. In the case of Dan Cathy, he is free to say he doesn't believe in gay marriage. As a result, I am free to boycott Chick-Fil-A.
So, please spare me this argument that a boycott of Chick-Fil-A represents an infringment of Dan Cathy's First Amendment right to Freedom of Speech because that is simply not the case. That goes for you to, Sarah Palin.
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Full Disclosure: I have no idea where the closest Chick-Fil-A franchise to me even is. All I knew prior to this whole fiasco is that they sponsored a college football bowl game...well, that and apparently cows can't spell very well.
DaNoid - Again you on the left is failing to see the point trying to be made. No one I know of thinks people should not boycott Chick-Fil-A, if that is their desire because it is their right to do so. I believe where this got traction was when the Mayors of 3 major cities, speaking in their official capacity, indicated they did not want Chick-Fil-A in their cities because of the beliefs of the CEO.
I believe everyone understands, or I would hope, that people can boycott or go to any business they want, however, what should not be allowed is mayors deciding what businesses can or can not operate in their cities based on the beliefs of the CEO. Now the mayors walked their initial statements back so I see no infringement of anyone's rights.
BTW, I would think the mayors would be happy to see a thriving business in their community, hiring people and paying taxes.
The selection of San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro may be a plus in raising the profile of a future star, but his selection points out some problems in the Democratic Party.
The Republicans have Latino Governors in Nevada and New Mexico, and rising Latino stars in Senators Rubio and Cruz (soon)....where are the Latino Democrat elected officials? They had to dig down to a mayor?
The GOP has elected more minorities in white-majority districts and states than the Democrats...other than Obama, most Democratic minority elected officials are skewed too far left to win statewide or nationally.
The GOP has a much deeper bench of rising young stars, many elected in 2010.
Who do the Dems have? Cuomo? O'Malley? Biden?
Ken Salazar was Governor of Colorado but now serves as Secretary of the Interior.
Sen. Bob Menendez currently represents New Jersey in the Senate.
The following Latino Democrats serve in the House of Representatives: Raul Grijalva, Edward Pastor, Lucille Roybal-Allard, Joe Baca, Xavier Becerra, Grace Napolitano, Dennis Cardoza, Linda Sanchez, Loretta Sanchez, Jim Costa, Luis Gutierrez, Albio Sires, Ben Lujan, Jose Serrano, Nydia Velazquez, Charles Gonzalez, Ruben Hinojosa, Silvestre Reyes, Henry Cuellar and Charlie Rangel (his father was from Puerto Rico).
Hey, and the Democrats have even had a Latino candidate for President in Bill Richardson.
Chris Christie and Julian Castro will form a clear contrast. Julian is bound to lift up the aspirations of the middle class and those who struggle while Chris will bluster and demagogue in full vitroilic mode. Julian's language will be inclusive--Chris's language will be condescending and c/rude.
Fancy that, So you have read a copy of their speeches? Must have since you already know hat they are going to say. Will you post them for us?
Rocco - the past says a lot about what will happen and Fancy is right on target. Christie will talk hate and divisiveness while Julian will be inclusive.
Obama/Biden 2012
Christie is a bull in a china shop who does not care what he breaks. Rocco will pay for it.
I can see christie up there now. His face getting red, starting to sweat, yelling, screaming, spit flying, complaining thats the lights are to hot and than his head explodes killing some of the people in the front row. Get the popcorn out.
Chris Christie is so Fat…….When he looks down he can’t see his “Little Twitter”.
Chris Christie = Fat Guy in a Little Coat.
Cristie’s Campaign Slogan will be “No Free Lunch Left Behind”.
The Republican Lobbyist already know Christie can be bought off with a Pack of Hot Dogs.
Chris Christie thinks G O P stands for Give.....Out....Plates.
You Bet Cha…….Fer Sure.
FOOL-PROOF CLUES ON HOW TO SPOT A RIGHT WING EXTREMIST REPUBLICAN/TEA PARTY TYPE ON TV WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED.
He talks, and acts rudely, in all manner and way. Thus, he uses words that makes you suspect he wants to cause the most harm or cruelty. Therefore, he endlessly puts venom into his verbiage and learned expletives. He obviously wants to make you look small or irrelevant.
He, with finality and in superlative even apocalyptic terms, predicts what would happen to you. He predicts a future he does not know or understand, claiming as well expert knowledge even though he may be an air head. (Would you hire Sarah Palin as your expert on constitutional law?).
He is almost always angry and looking unapproachable. And when he loses or you disagree with him, his anger turns to rage and rave. He feels able to simultaneously dwell on insults while still proclaiming his Christian credentials and ideals.
He is won’t, in political disagreements, to call for the most extreme measures against his perceived “enemy.” Thus, he would glibly shout, call for or threaten treason, un-American, impeachment, contempt, secession, repeal, nullification or other destructive terms.
He interrupts others repeatedly even though no one interrupts him when he speaks.
He is very belligerent and threatening in all matters: on foreign policy and nationalism (remember the word jingoism). This makes a mockery of his avowed belief as a “Christian”—because Christ is the “Prince of Peace.”
He is almost always the aggressor. Win (think 2010) or lose (think 2008 and 2012), he wants to fight you, humiliate you, threaten you. (You can never satisfy these people). He covers up everything with shouts and claims of freedom while denying it to others.
He doesn’t think it matters to be specific and instead dwells on generalities, bite sounds and unsupported assertions. He thinks that most voters are stupid and can easily be manipulated with emotive words of hates and division. (Remember “divide and conquer”). Thus, many of the voters they manipulate end up working against their own interests—so long as they find somebody else to blame for their own failures and inadequacies.
He is very self-righteous on religious matters, wants to impose his personal beliefs on the whole society even while decrying government “overreach” in our personal lives. And he spouts in frightening speed all kinds of conspiracy theories. (The brains are different).
He projects his myths, conjectures and conspiracy theories as “facts” and treats objective facts as irrelevant and dangerous. He treats his routine lies, prevarications and misrepresentations as a “business plan.”
He shouts honor and country and wants America to easily go to war against other nations even though he usually finds a way to avoid military service. He feels he is more “patriotic” than any one else while in fact he is a paper tiger.
He doesn’t really believe in democracy, human rights, civil rights and human dignity (except for the unborn). So you will hear him describing women’s rights, gay rights and civil rights as a threat to the economy and the nation. He, like the Taliban, wants particularly to lord it over women in any way he can, including using public policy to interfere in the bedrooms of the nation.
He doesn’t believe in helping the poor, the elderly and the weak in our society, even though Christ said doing these things gives you a right to heaven. So he is wont to accuse any one who dares as a socialist. He even denounces Canadian and European-style capitalism as “socialism.” (Do these people read and use their brain at all)?
He believes in winning by cunning, intimidation and other unfair means, even if it means disenfranchising thousands of legitimate voters. (Remember Florida 2000 and now 2012). (Their big daddies in the Supreme Political Court will surely help out as needed).
He doesn’t think that the court should be activist except for the causes they believe in or in courts they control. When they are in control, they want to take every matter of state for decision in their favor. Note the flood of Republican-pioneered cases to the John Robert’s Supreme Political Court. Roberts and Co. have usually obliged, seriously tarnishing the reputation of the Court. However, Roberts disappointed them in the ACA challenge. So they are threatening, huffing and puffing—as usual! Paper Tigers barking!
You BetCha………Fer Sure.
As an independent I find Senator Reid's comments, as to Romneys taxes, highly hypocritical since he has been scamming the system, with son included, in lining his pockets with sweatheart deals for years. Maybe we shoud look at his tax returns. This whole tax issue is a calculated plan to obviscate, and obscure, the presidents absolutely miserable record while in office. Dont you think discussing the important issues, such as the economy, the deficit, foreign policy et al, are of significantly more importance than Romney's tax returns???