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He stated -- unequivocally -- that Jerusalem is Israel's capital and that the U.S. embassy should eventually be moved there from Tel Aviv.
"A nation has the capacity to choose its own capital city, and Jerusalem is Israel's capital," Romney said in an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I think it's long been the policy to ultimately have our embassy in the nation's capital of Jerusalem."
And the Palestinian Authority howled in objection.
But here's the rub: Barack Obama, when he was running for president in 2008, made a similar comment, from which he later backtracked.
At a speech before AIPAC in June 2008, Obama said: "[A]ny agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized, and defensible borders. Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."
Obama, as the Washington Post wrote at the time, later reversed course. "Facing criticism from Palestinians, Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged yesterday that the status of Jerusalem will need to be negotiated in future peace talks, amending a statement earlier in the week that the city 'must remain undivided.'"
The AP earlier explained why Jerusalem is such a thorny subject, particularly for candidates running for the White House: "The Palestinians want to establish a capital in east Jerusalem, captured and annexed by Israel in 1967. Most of the world, including the U.S., does not recognize the annexation. The U.S. and others keep their embassies in Tel Aviv."
And as CNN has observed, while presidential candidates might say one thing about Jerusalem, they do another while in office. "In pledging to move the American embassy in Israel, Romney joins presidential candidates in the past that have made the same promise, including former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Neither made the move as commander in chief."
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I think it is up to the Israeli's to determine wheere their Capital should be, not ours. Besides, I've never even heard of Israel ever pushing an agenda regarding any such move.....
Hey, more Polish news.
The Romney campaign told some reporters to "kiss my a**" and "shove it"
Mark and Domenico, where are you guys?
abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/mitt-romney-spokesman-tells-reporters-kiss-my-at-polish-holy-site/
Um, Israel has stated where their capital is, and it is Jerusalem. Obama doesn't recognize it as such. So it would be Obama pandering to the Palestinians and Muslims that is causing the denial of Jerusalem as the capital
Rectumshan, you do realize the idiot reporters were screaming and yelling at the site of the unknown soldier, right? The sight is considered very sacred, and out of respect for Poland they should have been quiet. Romney's guy did the right thing, maybe used poor language, but the reporters were clearly in the wrong.
firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/31/13050094-romney-looks-to-regain-footing-with-warsaw-speech?lite
Question is, where were you?
teknishan, FR covered that in First Thoughts but it was worth repeating.
The US, The EU, The UN, etc...I guess they're all a bunch of panderers, aren't they?
Noid, yes, they are. UN? What joke. EU? Another joke. Obama? The biggest joke.
When did they sew Rmoney's head into his A$$. He sure keeps talking out it all the time & you on the right want him for President. The next day after your convention you all will be wishing you took your morning after pill.
holy smokes, i missed it.
Dang.
I was in meetings all morning.
Uh...you might want to brush up on your history of the region. The United States has never officially recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Why do you think the embassy is still in Tel Aviv in the same building it has been in since 1966?
Noid, you have trouble following a conversation, don't you?
LMAO what a typical libby.
As an independent I am trying to understand a simple fact regarding the Presidential election. On the one hand, it is somewhat understandable why people would reject an Obama second term due to the economy and philosophical and political differences on a number of fronts. What is utterly incomprehensible to me, however, is what would possess people to cast a vote for Romney, a universally distrusted candidate who would take the nation in the worse direction imaginable, that is, full-speed backward to the failed and obsolete policies—economic and otherwise—of Bush, et al. by returning to the same deregulation, free-market stupidity and robber-baron measures that landed us in the Great Recession of 2008? If you take the time to respond, please keep in mind that I am genuinely trying to understand your view and would appreciate a reasonable, well thought-out rationale why you are voting for Romney. Or am I asking too much?
...and you wilt when confronted with facts that do not conform to your talking point so you resort to childish taunts, don't you?
Not funny...but laughable.
In all fairness, the age of deregulation began in the 80's. Not the 2000's. Both parties are culpable.
Regan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43 are all very much to blame.
See? I even cited a democratic president along with a republican president.
President Obama has done nothing to change "Bush" Economics. Tax policy has not changed, the federal reserve's policies have not changed. Bail outs have not changed. And the new regulation is more focused on individuals rather than business - Dodd Frank makes it near impossible to secure home or business financing and does nothing to stop large financial firms from gambling with people's retirement accounts - see JP Morgans $6b loss.
If you want to look at WHY we had a financial meltdown it was due to them repealing the Glass-Steagal Act and Artificially Low Interest Rates Set by the federal reserve. Neither of those things have changed, loans rates are still artificially low which we will see another bubble in college education in the next decade.
SO saying he will return us to "Bush" Economics is frankly - stupid. We haven't changed from "Bush Economics". If we did we would have interest rates based on a real competitive market rate so people current earnings weren't under-appreciated, we would enforce regulation that actually protects individuals savings, and than we would work on a plan to reduce the national debt so we're not spending money on borrowing money.
And for the record I'm an independent who will not be voting for either party, I'd suggest everyone posting here find a bit of intellectual honesty and stop voting with your heart. Vote with your brain, god gave you one for a reason.
TimCalifornia
I could easily refute your claim with numerous examples how Obama’s approach and policies are clearly different from the policies of Bush, but I will not waste the time on an individual who somehow has the need to resort to terms such as “stupid” when addressing someone with a different opinion than your own. It is tempting for me to use the same term when conversing with someone who is going to sit out a presidential election or is a libertarian dreamer, but I resist out of respect for my fellow human. You might try that kind of restraint, my friend.
Well TimTam-1677174...
Than refute why I am wrong and show me how I'm stupid.
Oh wait, it's a waste of time! Yet you took the time to come back, read my post, and respond with nothing except inane remarks about me being a potential Libertarian OR choosing not to vote for two candidate who won't help the countries problems.
You know what's funny, when Bush was in office a lot of republicans said the same thing about voting for him. "Lesser of two evils argument." YOU have to vote, you can't sit out! It's terrible. Well sorry TimTam, that's the problem with American politics. No matter what both sides do, they're going to get your vote either way because it's "you're duty as an American to vote for Pepsi or Coke".
Again, find some intellectual honesty and stop utilizing slogans created by one of the campaign teams.
Stupid.
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Hey, what about the Phillies trading Shane Victorino?
Who'd they trade him to?
Word is the Tigers are trying to get Hunter Pence from the Phillies.
Scratch that, just saw he went to the Giants.
Man the Tigers need one more good bat at 5 or 6 and they will be set.
white collar auto We can find common ground with baseball, to bad we can't find the same thing with politics. Its a good race in the Al Central. The Tigers are right behind the White Sox. Good luck to your Tigers, there making there move. As a White Sox fan I hope the Sox can hold on. May best tram win. Lets hope who ever it is they smoke the rest of the Al and put a good whipping on the National League.
The Dodgers, for Ethan Martin, Josh Lindblom and the ever-popular "player to be named later". Holy cow, Hunter Pence, too? Look for huge discounts at the local sporting goods stores on Victorino and Pence jerseys, both of which were pretty big sellers. I thought it was sad earlier this year when the one I pass on the way to work every day had a big sign "All Utley 50% off". I wonder if anyone actually sells "Playertobenamedlater" shirts?
Hey Smitty, we were hoping the White Sox would fade away, but looks like it will go into September for sure. I think the Tigers play the sox 7 or 9 more times. That could be the deciding factor.
Joanne what happened to the Phillies? Most of the "Experts" had the Phillies and the Tigers in the World Series. The Tigers are mounting a bit of a comeback and luckily are in the worst division in Baseball, but I didn't think the Phillies would be having a Fire Sale in July this year
I look forward to whoever wins the AL Central getting sh*t on by the Rangers.
WCA -
Actually, I don't follow them as closely as I once did (like when they broke my heart way back in 1964), but it's hard to point to any one thing. As always, the easy answer is the injuries to Chase Utley and Ryan Howard, but their starting pitching has sucked, their bullpen hasn't helped, and I gather if there's one thing they've excelled at this year, it's stranding men on base in scoring position. My friend who listens to sports talk radio 24/7 says the fans are blaming GM Ruben Amaro Junior. Me? I'm still trying to deal with the fact that it doesn't seem all that long ago that I was watching Ruben Amaro Senior play and now his kid is the general manager. I'm too young to be this old!
Ruken Hey Texas is good. No doubt. But they can't win the big games. They have good players and Nolan Ryan is doing a fine job running the show. Good Luck to your Rangers. You got to thank boston for the third baseman, and look at Adam Dunn leading the majors in Home Runs the last time I checked.
WCA---our AL team is the Tigers---still love Jim Leyland from his days as Pirates manager. Hoping the Pirates can stop their 19 losing season streak and get into the playoffs (but lately their bats have cooled off so we're nervous).
steeler fan Jim Leyland is a great manager. I remember him as a coach for the White Sox. I think he coached for Tony La Russa. The Pirates had Clemente and he was the best!!!! Good luck to your Pirates.
Ruken I see the Rangers picked up Ryan Dempster from the Cubs. I can't say if thats good or bad because he played with the Cubs. I hope he didn't bring that Cubs jinx with him. That would suck your team is playing well. I hope he works out for you all.
What? Obama doesn't make mistakes or flip flop...he evolves..just ask the liberal press. Nothing that happened as a result of his policies during his administration were his fault...just ask the liberal press or Obama.
tony c its about time you act as an american and not a facist. romney couldnt finf his way out of a paper bag, but he to needs to act as an american and not a facist.
It is Israel and ultimately their call - however, I don't think religious cities should be intertwined with government. It's bad enough we support a state where government is ruled by religion. Talk about anti-American ideology.
RedDev -
We support all kinds of states where government is ruled by religion. You know - the red states.
you mean the states with low unemployment? hows illinois 15 percent yet?
Romney's overseas trip was a dud and his penchant for foot in mouth was worse than usual, so we look forward to laughing at him on our own turf. Come on home Willard, we welcome you with open criticism for your future gaffes. We know you can't help yourself. By the way, have you got those tax returns ready yet? We all are looking forward to them. Well, except the whole Republican party.
yup. speaking the truth is NOW a gaff, according to the liberal media enslaving and lying to people.
There, that should make the right happy; they've been whining since last Thursday that the media is picking on Mitt.
The difference is that President Obama was not in Israel, not on foreign soil when he addressed AIPAC; he recognized the mistake and clarified the comment. Whether it is Mitt Romney, John McCain or Barack Obama, it is easy to step on toes in the Middle East. President Obama learned with that one comment not to step on toes. We're still waiting for Romney to recognize his mistake but then he's still apologizing to Great Britain......and reporters for his aide's cursing rudeness, not to mention Dan Senor's threatening comments.
The President didn't send out surrogates to say "what he meant to say" or deny saying what he said or anything---he made the correction, moved on and never made the same mistake again. Waiting for evidence that Mitt can do the same.
The ‘gullibility’ of US gentiles (Jew for all leprous others) is amazing especially when Jews Boehner, E Kantor, M McConnell, P Ryan and 12 tribes speak for ‘the American people’. Since FDR’S time, ALL US presidents, bar none, were ‘Christianist’ converts from Judaism, married to Jewesses or had Jew blood! I will list a few of the myths Jews have taught ‘Pavlov’ Americans. Jews can demonize all others: Arabs, M.E Christians, Moslems, Easterners etc, but when others answer, they are ‘anti-Semites’. The daily holocausts that chosen Israel commits are O.K to keep the Palestinians under control… for the past 64 years, with US complicity!! Racist CHOSEN of Wail Str care deeply about US Gentiles! So, the Jew-run US Imperial Military and its comical branches of government will give the Shylocks all our tax money and these psychopaths will create jobs for US & NOT outsource them where labour is cheaper and they can legally avoid paying US taxes!! But GENTILES will pay taxes even for breathing! Who cares if we are the most violent society and the least happy so long as we are (correction: were) the most wasteful!
Democrats are in on the game, but they are less odious! The God-Chosen Jews (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Murdock, Bronfman & 12 tribes) know if you repeat a lie often, people will believe it. Jews are trustworthy and decent as 305 million swindled Americans who lost their life savings and wealth attest to!! So will the incredibly large 6 million incarcerated, paroled or ankle-bracelet wearers! Jews have even hoodwinked Americans into giving up their civil rights with the misnomered ‘Patriot Act’. I could list 110 abuses of this Jew-run system. Congrats: US is well done! Was Genocide-Committing Chosen Israel worth it?
See, this is the internet in action.
People you would totally stay away from in public, the people on street corners muttering incoherent thoughts, can now post those thoughts freely and you can't help but glance at them while moving on.
I award you 0 points for your conspiracy-theory driven nonsense, and may god have mercy on your soul.
So what? You guys are so desperate to have the "empty suit" in the White House you resort to petty observations? You have a GOP candidate who has basically said, I'm not giving you information for proper vetting and the press has obliged in not forcing his hand!!! The public have been issued polls saying the electorate doesn't care about Bain Capital, tax returns or purchasing of hard drives. THE POLLS ARE WRONG AND IT IS A NARRATIVE THAT COINCIDES WITH THE SUPER PAC AD. Timing is everything! SYSTEMATIC COORDINATION FROM THE MEDIA!!!
Well half the media.
The other half are saying the opposite.
The tail has been wagging the dog since 2000.
In 2004 I wrote an email to a bunch of republicans that I knew. I told them that if they relected GW that America deserved what it would get. Now we are in 2012 and if the Sheep in America don't wake up to the agenda of the 1% and republicans we are all going to suffer the consequences.
All of the guys I sent that email to have suffered greatly . If anyone out there has the mentality of an ant I hope you don't buy into the BS that the likes of Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney spew. They have no real plan . If they did I think they would have posted it by now. By the way the Social Security trust as well as Medicare would be fine if the feds had kept from borrowing from them for 40 years. And the federal govt pays government retirement not SS. And that money will always be there and when they retire they can take out lump sums of cash which we cannot do .
So by all means listen to FOX and friends and ruin the entire country for the 99% that actually work for a living . Remember Bain If you had bain behind you you could turn a hot dog stand into a multi million dollar business until they wanted their money back then you would be broke .
If the so-called main stream media scrutinized/vetted Obama just one/one millionth like they do a Republican candidate it would be more than a modern day miracle. But because they didn't/haven't, we're stuck with a 'community organizer' that doesn't know anything about anything!! Talk about gaffes, this POTUS is the biggest gaffer of all time. I've got two 8 1/2 x 11 pages of his gaffes going back to the campaign in 2007, and I know that what I have is probably not one half of his gaffes!
so how much is 4.4 trillion dollars split between 300 million americans? seems the fed and geitner the criminal keep propping up obozo because he is a baboon in chief.
all you libs couldnt stand having to think for yourself.
btw. there is a reason fox nes has been number one, and liberal media is losing ground.
because you keep lying to people.
Black pastors group launches anti-Obama campaign around gay marriage
By Dan Merica, CNN
Washington (CNN) – A group of conservative black pastors are responding to President Barack Obama’s support of same-sex marriage with what they say will be a national campaign aimed at rallying black Americans to rethink their overwhelming support of the President, though the group’s leader is offering few specifics about the effort.
The Rev. Williams Owens, who is president and founder of the Coalition of African-Americans Pastors and the leader of the campaign, has highlighted opposition to same-sex marriage among African-Americans. He calls this campaign “an effort to save the family.”
“The time has come for a broad-based assault against the powers that be that want to change our culture to one of men marrying men and women marrying women,” said Owens, in an interview Tuesday after the launch event at the National Press Club. “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.”
At the press conference, Owens was joined by five other black regional pastors and said there were 3,742 African-American pastors on board for the anti-Obama campaign.
When asked at the press conference for specifics about the campaign – funding, planned events and goals – Owens said only that the group’s first fundraiser will be on August 16 in Memphis, Tennessee. But Owens insisted that “we are going to go nationwide with our agenda just like the president has gone to Hollywood.”
Looks like the Rattlesnakes are beginning to commit suicide! The decision to pander to the Hispanic vote added 800,000 illegal aliens to the job market in the black 18-30 demographic where the unemployment rate is 40%! Now he's abandoned a major part of the leadership in his own black constituency... All decisions made out of desperation of a failed presidency and a failing president!!!
Talk about @!$%#ting in your hat!!!
Romney 2012!!! Yeah Baby!!!
Romney has done himself no favors with his behavior in London, Israel or Poland. Romney managed to offend people everywhere he went. Romney is not a statesman, he is not sensible enough to tell the truth and he is not going to do anything but continue the Bush policies that most Americans know will continue to harm Americans and to harm our people and we sure do not want to see another recession or depression. If the Senate demands that we must continue to give the richest people tax cuts then no tax cuts for any of us should continue. We should not allow the GOP to keep giving the wealthiest people tax breaks. That is crazy. We should not be giving the oil corporations billions in subsidies. That is crazy. Those are things the GOP are determined to continue. We must not allow the GOP to get away with their determination to give the richest people tax cuts and subsidies. That must stop.
When we get to the debates and Obama asks, " I have disclosed 10 years of tax returns, why won't You show America Yours"? Romney says," I'll show them when You show Your real birth certificate or college transcripts" and that answer is comedy. Romney better be prepared with a great answer because that tax question is coming over and over. It is fairly obvious there is definitely major problems in his returns that would devastate his candidacy.