vultures of a feather flock?

Once again showing why this country is not hiring and our unemployment stays above 8%.

The top execs across the country want a republican in office who will pander to their agendas. Until such time (if ever) the corporate execs will continue to bring this country to it's knees by outsourcing and refusing to hire Americans that desperately need jobs. But that could change if they finally realize that Americans will rebel against their treasonous activity by refusing to buy their products. Hitting the top execs in the pocketbook is the only way to get their attention.

Be there no mistake about this message. Corporate America will continue to donate heavily to Romney because he will do what they want at the expense of the American middle class.

This isn't news.......of course they will go with the guy that makes their life easier.

However, Americans are already learning and not buying anything.

Is this supposed to come as a surprise?

In a way ... it should.

Big business has always backed the presumed winner. In 2008, (and despite Michael's and Katharine's cherry picked numbers) big business overwhelmingly supported Obama ..... Feisty's Wall Street supported Obama by a 4-1 margin.

For them to not hedge their bets on the incumbent who should win hands down, speaks volumes to Obama's epic failure and the business realization that America simply cannot endure another 4 years.

Willard is the poster boy for GREED is GOOD!

Greed ... I dunno ... poster boy for understanding economics, business, how to problem solve, how to turn things around .... how to succeed and grow things, yea.

Better than a poster of a professional politician who has a community organizer's understanding of economics - who thinks that if you have a business .... you didn't create that.

Btw - Feisty ... how would Obama even know how to build a business?

Has he ever built one?

Has he ever seriously worked for one?

Is there any evidence, school records, etc., that even suggest Obama has had Economics 101, Management 101, Accounting 101 (what a balance sheet is and why you need one) ....

CEOs want a permissive environment where they can boost their own stocks at the expense of the public good and make millions more when the middle class toils in hardship. Actually that is one of reasons the entire world is still in a Recession that is Made In America.

Obama/O'Biden 2012

This proves that the rich will always help the rich. Its that special club where money gets you. All you righties who make less than 250k and you vote for Rmoney you will have shot yourselves in the ass.

Dotties girl

You should take time out to look at the campaigner record fundraising -- unions, hollywood, WALL STREET hedge fund managers to name a few.  you really need to get some original ideas instead of inhaling the DNC's talking points -- or is that too much trouble for a 12 yr old?

I suggest you look them up yourself.

If you look at the Forbes list of the top 10 highest paid CEO's, then look at the companies employement recruitment websites, you will find that their combined total of open positions is approx 4000. Some of these companies are not hiring anyone.

Here ya go Doc just look at the list and you will notice that 15 or so of the top 20 donors are UNIONS.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

Stating the obvious and then dressing it as news is very original; caught us ALL by surprise! Congratulations NBC NEWS! No, not really!

Mike,

It is ironic that these business owners are basing those 'signs' on a distortion. IN fact Rimney has said the same things in 2002.

Sure MIke produce a quote from late 08 or early 09. News flash the economy isn't in the same shape it was 3 years ago. I know facts aren't your strong suit.

OK Bob, cite the article if you can showing a 4-1 advantage. Evidence of schooling... Since when do you need to take those classes when you are studying for a law degree. Grasping at invisible straws again?!?

Why would anyone involved in any business support a guy who targets business. If I was a CEO I could never support Obama because he is bad for business....not just personally for the CEO but for anyone who wants to build a business and that includes every employee working in the business. And let's be clear, some of those high paid executives are democrats as well. Unions leaders, Hollywood elites are not exactly the poor of this country. As others noted, many of these same CEO's supported Obama in 08 because of the promise of hope and change.....they now realize that was a bunch of crap.

No surprise here.

Romney will totally deregulate Wall Street and allow the top corporations to do whatever they want in order to make a profit. The CEOs will get rich(er) while the workers get shafted(er).

If you're a Fortune 500 CEO and have no interest beyond your financial bottom line, the choice between Romney and Obama is a no-brainer---you support Romney with your vote AND you checkbook.

But if you're an employee of one of these companies, especially if you're on the lower rungs of the company, likely to hear your job's going to India or China any day now after three or four years without a raise despite the increased work load, and you're "for" Romney...wel,, you might want to take a closer look at that.

It must be because they're just such upstanding members of our country that they can do nothing else besides look out for their fellow Americans. Such nice guys, those CEOs. I'm so glad they have us as their chattel.

True to their nature Vultures prefer carrion.

President Obama has brainwashed his minions to think that they can get along without big business. Good luck with that all of you progressive/liberals. I have said from early 2009 that President Obama will be the end of the progressive movement. His true agenda is out there for everyone to see and maybe 15% of Americans support him 100% with another 30% supporting him just because he is a democrat. There is no way in hell that he will get a second term. The few real democrats left in office know that fact and probably are betting against Obama.

1/20/2013 - the end of an error

CEO's are usually conservative businessmen that do much good and very little harm.

WALL STREET is where we are screwed! Just like Big Government, they take trillions from the economy and produce nothing. Just like government, there is good there also, but it needs a huge shrinking as well.

CEO's of Forbes 500 companies are people we should listen to, THEY are the experts.

It continues to shock me how those furthest removed from the impact of our poor economy are the most critical of those who create jobs. How vane. They continue on a quest to start a class war that's effect does not impact them, but those struggling to find full time jobs. This arrogance is going to destroy our nation.

I mean, who are those who would benefit most form a Romney Presidency?

Jeff1414

The American people.

We need a President who will work for ALL OF US.

Who would benefit most from an Obama second term? Just his friends.

Shocker!

It goes without saying:

If you have cancer, you want the best doctor that money can buy.

If you are being charge, you want the best attorney.

If you want the economy to get better, you want somebody that knows waht he is doing.

Romney 2012.

The bigger question for me, how can any economy survive money being hoarded by any group. You can complain and name call all you want but the bottom line is Wealth is being concentrated in a certain group and that is reflection of Politicians pandering to money and donations.

For example, Oil, Why is it wrong to drill in our own Country and stipulate a well supplied US Market prior to world selling? That's a compromise that serves everyone, instead we create these false pretensions that Oil Companies are salivating to supply US Markets but our Government won't let them which is completely false. They have a much more vested interest in keeping supply low in order to command a higher return.

Another example, Tax receipts are obviously down, which we are told is due to lack of capital formation or no new businesses, which again is BS. The same group that exploited tax loopholes in early 2000 are still doing it, the only difference the early 2000's had a lot of start up businesses that couldn't take advantage of Tax attorneys. A lot of the Capital Formation in the early 2000's was artificial high prices in things like Houses and ridiculous credit standards that were unsustainable. It was easy to get money for about anything you wanted to do.

I just think the bulk of people who come on here and bloviate on party lines regardless of what makes sense or is reasonable to the majority. Real change will come when we have the courage to step out of our comfort level and compromise for the good of all.

Obama has raised almost TWICE as much campaign money as Mitt Romney and most of it came from 1%ers. It astonishes me that some still believe Obama is for the small guy. Are you kidding me? Neither are for the small guy.

We've seen what one has done for 4 years and it sure ain't helping the lower or middle class. With less jobs, lower wages, higher food and gas prices since Obama took office, are we so naive that we will vote for him again? People need to wake up, things will not change unless we recognize the path we are on is not the right one. I voted for Obama in 08, I won't make that mistake again.

HEADLINE:

Rich People Support Romney

Subtite:

Don't Want to Pay Their Share

I get so sick of the "pay your fair share" BS.

Take a few minutes to LOOK IT UP!!! Then get back to us Gary and tell us who pays their fair share. Is it the poor? Is it the middle class? Is it corporations? NO, it is the rich. And yes, they will support Romney because Obama has made them a target for even more.

I think this article highlights the need to have transparency in elections or outright getting money out of election campaigns. At the very least it is telling me how important it is that we all vote straight dems on election day. No CEO speaks for me or know my struggle so I in turn am opposed to whom ever they support!

nomoresameo- kind of hard to do with this whole conglomeration business that's been running rampant since monopolies were outlawed.

anyone remember when lot's of people owned lots of businesses instead of a few people owning all of the businesses? CONGLOMERATES ARE THE NEW MONOPOLY.... MAKE THEM ILLEGAL. one person owning 15 brands = one person stealing 14 jobs!!!!

James-2110694, So you see not correlation between CEO political donations and the high unemployment numbers? You don't think that corporations are not freezing hiring until after they get their puppet sleeping in the White House? We need to amend the constitution to stop corporate, union, PAC and Super PAC money out of all political campaigns. Look at Wisconsin's governor race. Walker's entire campaign was financed not by citizens of Wisconsin but by monied interests from outside the state like the Koch brothers. That is not government of the people and by the people. Canada spends a fraction of what we spend on politics and they seem to get by much better than we do. Look at the boondoggle of the Abrams tank the pentagon doesn't want to spend the money but can't seem to stop congress and their campaign funding masters.

The American people (99%) or the uber rich? Big difference JH479998. Romney does not care about the little guy, how can he? he hasn't a clue what most Americans work for on a daily basis. he defines "out of touch". So, thanks for sharing your enormously intelligent comment. Sheep.

The buying of America continues while so many are so out of it they don't see or get it! Brainwashing by FOX will do that!

There's a part of me that hopes that Romney wins so that, once again four years after the fact, Liberals will once again be able to say "see... same old ideas, brought same old problems, brought on a whole new economic collapse".

But of course if that happens, fault will no doubt be focused on some as-yet unnamed Democrat who, while having to deal to the buzzing of the brainless flies on the right; Republicans who will once again wash their hands of all responsibility of anything - ever. America will have to then - one more time - rely on the Democrats to try and bail America out from the latest Republican train wreck. And once again, Republicans will block all attempts to fix the mess they caused. Why?

Because fixing the mess isn't profitable for corporations; not like maintaining chaos and confusion among the American people. These corporate CEO's are nothing more than cannibals looking for their next meal... or in this case, their next quarterly profit report. It's a shell game.

Follow the money, fools.

rgmoon,

You said it! It is called GREED!

The top 1% already own 42% of the wealth, up from 40% last year. How much is enough? Until we all walk the streets?

Fiesty..."Willard is the poster boy for GREED is GOOD!"

Yep, like no Dem/Lib ever did anything that supported the banking industry GREED:

On January 4, 1995, the new Chairman of the House Banking Committee, Representative James A. Leach (R-IA), introduced a bill to repeal Glass-Steagall Sections 20 and 32.^[287] After being confirmed as Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin announced on February 28, 1995, that the Clinton Administration supported such Glass-Steagall repeal.^[288] Repeating themes from the 1980s, Leach stated Glass-Steagall was “out of synch with reality”^[289] and Rubin argued “it is now time for the laws to reflect changes in the world’s financial system.”^[288]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act#Glass-Steagall_developments_from_1995_to_Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act

Did you read that? "...the Clinton Administration supported such Glass-Steagall repeal."

Business men only make up only 5% of the voting population. They are at the mercy of the Masses. They try to compensate for being outnumberd 20 - 1 by putting money into campaigns that they think will be best for the economy. In 2008, they contributed to Obama and the Democrats, because they had lost confidence in the Republicans. In 2008, Obama won the executive money by a 2 - 1 margin. Being the margin is now 4 to 1 in favour of Romney, looks like there were quite a few regrets.

BTW: Hating the wealthy is exactly what Marx said would happen. What many don't understand is he Promoted class warefare because just promoting the communist theory wasn't good enough to work without assistance.

Lvingbarefoot said..................................CEO's of Forbes 500 companies are people we should listen to, THEY are the experts.

They may be the experts, but what they are experts at is trying to bolster the bottom line. The problem with that, as we've all seen in America, is a loss of jobs.

Here are a few examples of your so called experts and what they are practicing.

Merck, Goldman-Sachs and Boston Scientific have all cut massive jobs in the U.S. over the past two years while adding at least the same number of jobs in other countries. Boston Scientific has expanded in China. Merck has expanded in China and Brazil. Goldman-Sachs has expanded in China.

Other companys that have cut massive numbers of jobs in the past 24 months are Sears, Gannett, Pfizer, Lockheed-Martin and Cisco.

I fully support free enterprise and capitalism in our country. But when corporate America decides that the bottom line is more important than the people who work for them during a recession, the net result is massive unemployment.

How many of the CEO's of these corporations took huge pay cuts before they ordered the loss of jobs to millions of hard working honest people trying to support themselves and their family?

I'm sorry Lvingbarfoot, but the execs you seem to support are looking out only for their welfare IMHO.

hsi

Senator Glas actually began to campaign against Glas-Steagall himself. He realized that the restrictions were too much a burden for the economy to expand as quickly as needed after a recession. Because of politics, no one would listen.

And this is all the American people need to know to vote for ABR (Anyone but Romney). Otherwise, the oligarchy that would replace our constitutional democracy will ensue. It doesn't matter that the rich are a small percent of the population, in fact that's the very problem -- that such a small percent are also the powerful who control everything. The Gilded Age of the Robber Barons and Monopolies -- Been there, done that, don't need to do it again.

The Federal Government owns over 2/3's of the land in the US including all mineral and energy rights. The wealthy are puny compared to the government. They know that, but politicians are taking advantage of people who don't.

CEOs have money, people have a great number..it's people's vote that counts in November.

It's David (people) vs. Goliah (CEOs).

If people come out and vote in great number, CEOs and their fellow Vulture have no chance.

Eric, Et. al.

You stated that the CEO's support Romney because they would benefit most from him being president. Well, Yeah. Hello. I vote for the guy that I think will be the most beneficial to me (whose policies will be the most friendly to what I support). Why do you think that most of the people leaching from welfare want Obama to be the president...?

Would everybody stop with the "greed" comments!! You CAN'T even define "greed" - can you?

Let me summarize for you: A person decides what is the best way to risk their capital and time. For risk averse people you go to work for a stable company and hope with hard work they will notice and realize you can add value to their organization.

For the entrepreneurs they make the decision of whether they should risk their capital and time and will it be worth it. Do they invest $100,000 in T-Bonds and make 2%? Do they invest $100,000 with slightly more risk into mutual funds and make 5%? Do they invest $100,000 with even more risk into a small business and make 12% but also might invest a years worth of time (which they could have made other money - this is called "opportunity cost") and possible lose ALL their $100,000?

What you call "greed" intelligent people call risk. When a person risks $100,000 and makes $20,000 shouldn't we be happy for them? Didn't this "success" create, say, 2 jobs? Doesn't that show us this person understands the business and with another investment of, say, $500,000 this person could create 10 MORE jobs? So what if he now makes $100,000 - isn't it a requirement for an entrepreneur to make a profit in order to incentivize him to risk his time and capital? Shouldn't we be happy when he NOW wants to invest $1,000,000? Doesn't that mean 20 MORE jobs??

And what happens when you penalize business telling them you want them to take the risk but there is NO WAY we are going to let them keep their greedy profits? They realize their potential reward is not worth the risk. Then you have an economy like we have right now. Unemployment above 8%. GDP at a stagnant 1.5%. Most on Food Stamps since the program started. Most on Welfare in over 50 years. Lowest labor-participation rate in over 50 years. Most unemployed over 6 months since the Great Depression.

And if you want to call the businesses of today "greedy" and threaten to punish their success with higher taxes just HOW do you expect them to start MORE businesses? I'll help you with that question - they won't.

So Obama fooled many with his "Hope and Change" but all it has turned into is "I Hope I can find some loose Change in the Sofa because that is all I have left". Businesses understand that the current administration is killing job creation and the job creators. This economy cannot grow and succeed without the businesses and they are the VERY people Obama is attacking. So they realize this economy cannot recover without the private sector and Romney is the only person that cares about the private sector.

One night at Clooney's and the Left Coast Hollywierd celebs gave up $15 Million....P.Obama spoke for 19 minutes.....

http://www.justjared.com/2012/05/11/george-clooneys-obama-fundraiser-party-highlights/comment-page-4/

Then at Sarah Jessica Parker's swanky digs the East Coast swells coughed up $40,000 a plate.....Later that same evening P.Obama went to ANOTHER fundraiser for poor folks, some 250 people at the Plaza Hotel that could ONLY pony up $10,000 a piece....Nice he gave the lowly a chance to see His Awesomeness too...A real man of the People.....

http://ca.omg.yahoo.com/news/sarah-jessica-parker-hosts-barack-obama-fundraiser-details-133000146.html

Everyone else gets a $3.00 a piece chance to go to his Birthday Party ....1 Lucky Winner gets to go to Chicago.....After leaving Barrack's backyard....you're on your own.....stay out of the South Side...It's hazardous to your health....

Rick's Real

There's a part of me that hopes that Romney wins so that, once again four years after the fact, Liberals will once again be able to say "see... same old ideas, brought same old problems, brought on a whole new economic collapse".

You're naively assuming the rightwing nuts learn anything, ever. Did they learn Saddam had NO ties to Al Qaeda? Did they learn there were NO WMD (not these were not moved to Syria)? Did the learn the president IS a legal citizen of this country? Do they accept that St. Reagan raised taxes 11 times, and no Republican president has balanced the budget since Nixon, or has had a surplus since Eisenhower?

Look at Teapublicans now, wanting to elect someone who will take the country back to the same failed GOP/Bush-era policies -- Not just voodoo economics, but also neocon warmongering, and religious radicalism. Most are so brainwashed they are clueless, but some know very well the ramifications and actually work to undermine the middle class and our constitutional democracy -- Like Romney's Private Inequity associate who openly advocates the rich controlling everything, and the rest of the population living in poverty.

Thanks to FAUX Noise/Hate Radio/Conspiracy Theory websites and chain Emails, as well as gerrymandering, a poor education system, religion and anti-intellectualism, etc. the rightwing have become so radical as to be insane and a scourge to our society. If only there really was such a thing as "liberal bias" in education or the media, then perhaps we could being deprogramming them.

He goes by Mitt, not Willard. Unless you like to start your comment with basically, "I already know I'm wrong but..." so just a hint if you want someone to listen who isn't already bent over backwards for your left-wing fanaticism, use the correct titles, names, terms, and the like. If that sounds too hard for you, I'm not surprised, keeping winning those who are already won, you won't change anyone else's mind.

But at least you're always the first comment!

WOW, it is par for the course to have businessmen giving to Romney, but the unbelievable hipocrasy by the dems by taking such a large percentage of the 1%'s money. Isn't that what really sticks out in this article!

The only issue that Mutt Romney has not flip-flopped, backtracked, or backpedaled on is revealing his tax returns.

That is the only issue that he has been defiant and steadfast on.

Doesnt it make you wonder what he is hiding?

DB Akron

The Federal Government owns over 2/3's of the land in the US including all mineral and energy rights.

Most of the land in the country is worthless because of lack of water. As for the national parks, these are to be preserved for all generations, per Republican Teddy Roosevelt and the Bible instructing mankind to take care of the Earth and the plants and animals on it.

As for mineral and energy rights, it is disgusting that Big Oil is able to simply sit on top of a hole and suck out these resources for peanuts, and then sell it to us at a premium. I wish we would nationalize these resources, which belong to the people. These limited resources are not to be exploited for a profit by some jagoffs like the Koch brothers, who will then use those obscene profits to buy politicians and elections against the wishes of the founding fathers and our Republic form of democracy.

These rich and powerful people, and those like you who support and protect them, are at the minimum un-American and at the maximum committing treason.

nomoresameo, many of the ones you listed are big Obama supporters. The banks, Wall Street and Big Pharma love him. Wow, the ones that seem to be screwing us the most are in Obama's corner. Any concern or just turn a blind eye?

I will stand with my belief that most of these Fortune 500 CEO's are decent people.

They play by the rules that the government imposes! If outsourcing is legal and makes you more competitive, you MUST do it or go broke. I hate it and many of them probably do, but if your competition is cheaper because of it, then you have to do it.

Does anyone read the articles?... I have seen several posts that directly dispute the facts stated ..but they do so without anything supporting links or references.. unbelievable.

Romney’s advantage with these CEOs isn’t surprising. This same group of 500, not all of whom were CEOs of their respective companies in 2008, also favored Republican presidential nominee John McCain over Obama that year by a nearly 2-1 margin, $205,800 to $93,300. Fewer of the CEOs on the 2012 Fortune 500 gave in 2008; 112 total donated, 31 of whom gave to Obama and 81 of whom gave to McCain.

So the CEOs are not so good at picking a winner after all.

Post 1.3...stick to the topic ...CEOs

1.6 (lie alert)... they mostly supported McCain in 2008...

1.8 (lie alert) ... they article clearly states that Dems have raised nearly twice as much as Repubs overall.

1.9 (lie alert) ... walked around Boston...really.. and you lost count.. must have been a long walk.

1.11 (lie alert) ... the poster wrote "that MOST of these large corporate donors supported the CAMPAIGNER IN CHIEF in 2008... " however the article states, "Fewer of the CEOs on the 2012 Fortune 500 gave in 2008; 112 total donated, 31 of whom gave to Obama and 81 of whom gave to McCain."

1.26 lol

1.33 (twisted truth alert) what administration has not seen the cost of living go up????!!... ( btw, i have a better higher paying job than I did in 2008)..so you can't generalize to that degree.

Let's have an honest debate.

Why wouldn't they support Mitt? they know he will be better for business than Obama

Duh..... CEOs are business people; why in the hell would they donate to an incumbent who is blatantly anti-business?!

Probusiness, "...What you call "greed" intelligent people call risk. "

I don't think there is a person out there who would call the "risk" the banks and mortgage lenders took during the housing crash "intelligent". Yes, sometimes, it is just greed.

Brockton Barlow wrote: "Business owners of all sizes will be supporting Romney!"

Are you kidding? I own 3 businesses, and there is ZERO chance that I would vote for Romney. He has NO PLANS. He has zero track record of improving economy for small-medium size businesses (both in MA and his Baines Capital). He has ZILCH record of keeping mfg in USA. He has ZILCH record of promoting new idustries and new upstarts while governing.

Sorry, there is zero chance for me to invest on a ticket that that has provided ROI for small-middle size businesses.

thturd - there is zero chance that you own a lemonade stand let alone 3 business.

Yea, this is news? We all know that the 1% will back the Greedy Narcissist...why would they vote for President Obama who is trying to help the other 99%...really, anyone shocked by this article? Mittens will keep his FORBES CEO's not paying their fair share. No shock here.

Who cares. We're in another recession. Enough with the bickering. Both men are taking loads of money from businesses in order for them to get favors. How about we take care of the economy instead of worrying about how much romney (who can't win— gets from companies)

The reason Mitt gets all the money is that they KNOW he will do whatever they bid him to do. Just ask the Koch's, they know he is their candidate, bought and paid for, ready to to whatever they tell him to do.

nomoresameo,

They may be the experts, but what they are experts at is trying to bolster the bottom line. The problem with that, as we've all seen in America, is a loss of jobs.

Here are a few examples of your so called experts and what they are practicing.

Merck, Goldman-Sachs and Boston Scientific have all cut massive jobs in the U.S. over the past two years while adding at least the same number of jobs in other countries. Boston Scientific has expanded in China. Merck has expanded in China and Brazil. Goldman-Sachs has expanded in China.

Other companys that have cut massive numbers of jobs in the past 24 months are Sears, Gannett, Pfizer, Lockheed-Martin and Cisco.

I can't speak for the CEO's of the companies you listed, but I can speak to the reason several of them have moved operations overseas. The medical device industry has taken a huge hit in their income, profits and value precisely because of the unknown impact and preparation for the ACA. While the implementation of the medical device excise tax was heralded as a small price to pay for all the extra customers the industry would receive as a result of the ACA.

The reality is that the prices of medical devices subject to the tax are set by the same federal government who implemented the tax through reimbursement policies as part of Medicare and have set them for many years. The only way to cover the additional tax is to reduce costs and the only way to do that is to reduce labor costs, thus transfer some manufacturing overseas.

While the tax is taking effect on January 1, 2013, there are not expected to be any new customers. This, along with more strict FDA regulations, has driven investors away from supporting new medical device companies in the US and starting many new companies in Europe, Israel, Australia and Asia.

This change is just an example of the negative consequences of an anti-business government.

DUANE,

Mutt will be better for funny business!

More class envy BS... DNCNews is just an Obama shill.... CEOs didn't get to be CEOs by being stupid... they know how the economy works and what would be good for it, and what would be disastrous... and Obama's economy has relied on massive deficit spending to even grow the economy at the pathetic pace it's growing.... which is unsustainable... CEOs want a business friendly (which, idiot Democrats, doesn't automatically mean predatory or unfair) environment... that's lower taxes, lots less BS regulation, and cheap energy... high taxes, lost productivity due to BS regulation, and high energy costs just get passed on to consumers... which is why most manufactured items aren't made here anymore... we can't compete with a 35% corp tax rate, stifling regulation, or bloated energy prices due to idiotic anti-energy policy... THAT's why CEOs are backing Romney, and not the Looter-in-Chief

A few thousand dollars will reap HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars in income tax savings. A neat little trick these greedy CEO's see so readily in backing Corporate Puppetmasters instead of the PEOPLE'S CHOICE.

Obama/Biden 2012

BrocktonBarlow: Quick to judge aren't you? Unlike Chick-Fil's CEO, I don't care about your gender and your beliefs as long as you pay. And for the Republicans, fortunately, you're not Mitt's running mate. You're the reason why I make certain that we constantly revisit our hiring practices.

You people have seen nothing yet ! I bet "MITTWIT" will raise more money than any other candidate in history once his Mormon cult starts dumping money into one of his so called "super PAC's". What they don't know is that America cant justify replacing a loser with an even BIGGER loser. As sick as this makes me to say I believe that we may as well just keep the ass clown we have now and maybe in 4 years the Republicans can come up with a better choice than the jerk-off they have running now.

jimsepa, The risks the banks and mortgage companies took during the housing crisis was done at the sake of being fined by the gvt for not loaning money to the underprivileged, a frank/pelosi deal, in order for poor people to "afford" a home after clinton deregulated wall street and the banks.

nomore, you left out microsoft, apple and ge....all companies that back Obama and have shipped massive amounts of jobs overseas. GE's CEO is Obama's job "czar" and is shipping jobs overseas while advising Obama on how to creat jobs here? yeah right.

If you just won the lottery and had $100,000.00 to invest, who would you give it to, Obama or Romney?

The choice is clear - Romney 2012!

No surprises here, the folks that do the least to receive the highest levels of compensation regardless of whether the companies they "lead" perform wonderfully, poorly, or just average are all about supporting the candidate who reflects the TRUE Republican philosophy:

"Personal responsibility unless your net worth is over $10 million"

Top CEOs donate to Romney over Obama by 4-1 margin

I've heard he already has a hotel on hold for his first "how to tax-cheat, with my proven record of offshore tax havens," seminar!!

But you won't be able to go, it's like the Bilderbergers meeting last June 2012 in the Northern Virginia area:

A perimeter of about a half-mile has been set up around the Northern Virginia hotel, and all non-Bilderberg guests reportedly were kicked out of their rooms. A photographer for The Washington Times was told by law enforcement Wednesday that any attempt to get close to the building would result in arrest.

LOL

OBAMA/BIDEN/HOLDER....2012!!!!

This is what this country gets if we elect Romney. A spineless, gutless puppet on a string for the rich. Period!!

Unlike Fiesty and her ilk, at least the CEO's actually do something for the economy, like produce, hire and expand (although not under Obama).

Fiesty and her ilk sit around for endless hours, days, weeks and months trying to bolster the Socialist in Chief so she and her comrades can keep collecting their dole.

What is so pathetically hypocritical about her, is she certainly doesn't mind Obama rubbing up with his 1%-er's now does she?! Including all the bleeding heart progressive liberals of Hollywood. Hey Fiesty, when was the last time you - one of the 99%-er's (probably a bottom 5%-er), was invited to an Obama dinner? Right, you actually have nothing to contribute.

Romney 2012

Armurray, Are you certain that the medical devices corporations and Pharma corporations are moving overseas NOt due to the more relaxed regulations and investment (transfer) taxes which are directly reflective in the return of the investors? Sorry, American population did not volunteer as human guineapigs. In addition, if one is not an American company, why should we care if its patents are violated? vs an American company? If you don't have skin in the game, why should we care?

Of course, guess who are the major poltical contributors? the same players whose $ may be in limbo... Hence we return the point by the author.

The medical device industry has taken a huge hit in their income, profits and value precisely because of the unknown impact and preparation for the ACA.

Bull@!$%#. They move plants overseas to exploit 3rd world wages. Take the total tax bill actually paid by these companies and compare it to the total cost of labor (wages, benefits, employment tax, and various benefits). There is no comparison, whatsoever. Even H. Ross Perot warned about this in his arguments against globalization in 1992.

American labor will NEVER be able to compete against a $2 an hour legions of workers in nations that have virtually zero regulations on health, safety and environmental concerns. The offshoring of jobs is purely and simply about beefing up profits. If it were not, WHY do we see zero companies relocating plants to other developed industrial nations?!

This, in a consumer economy, which produces very little of what it buys, is called a "suicide economy." That is because without high wages and purchasing power, the very people who MUST spend to keep the economic engine running can no longer afford to do so. Add to that the fact that reckless, easy credit is no longer out there; the ATM machine that was attached to every mortgage has been repossessed. What we had in the 90's was the illusion of prosperity. What we have now is cold, hard reality. We sold our future for short term profit.

I, for one, have absolutely NO sympathy or respect for those who have zero regard for the long term prosperity of this nation. THEY and not American; they are citizens of some gilded land, where Americans are no longer welcome.

how would Obama even know how to build a business?

How would Reagan? Business experience doesn't matter because the government is not a business.

Yes Romney knows how to dodge taxes and exploit tax loopholes just as his CEO sponsors are doing. Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich back to Clinton Administration levels, a whopping 3% higher than they are now. So it makes sense the richest 1% of our country donate to Romney, the Karl Rove puppet.

Fiesty said:

Heaven forbid we NO longer allow Wall Street to function as their own private casino!

And God forbib we no longer allow the useless to continue to suck the rest of us dry!

Well, that just confirms what side Mittens is on.

(Hint....its not ours)

Obama/Biden 2012

Clinton 2016

Nomoresameo, You NAILED IT! here is a look at the so called saftey net that Romney says is there. this family has resorted to "internet pan handling" because the saftey net had a Gapping hole in it and let this family hit the ground! http: //igg.me/p/171832?a=874546 thake the space out of that link. It makes me sick familys have to resort to that and still NO ONE HELPS!

As an individual, I support Romney – if I owned a business, I would be shuffling as much money as the law allowed toward getting him elected.

I am forever hearing “corporate welfare,” “corporate greed,” blah, blah, blah.

1) Corporations and small businesses are what fund this company. They pay a ton of the taxes from their profits AND then they turn around and pay wages out of that same pot of money to the remaining members of society who pay the rest of the taxes with it. Just a thought, have you ever considered that if all their profits are going into taxes and Obamacare, what they will have left to pay you with? Pebbles and charcoal?

2) Since when is making a profit greed? Really? Do you seriously think there should be some sort of a bar that says you can’t earn more than X or we’ll consider it excessive? That kind of thinking falls under the category of jealousy. You’re jealous that so and so has managed to make a lot of money. I could understand that if they razzed your account and took it without your permission or got you to send in $100 for feather pillows and then sent you two chickens and a book on how to grow your own, but that’s not what happened. We, the American people, decided we needed bigger, better, and more –TVs, Cars, Houses, gas, stuff. They delivered and in the process made a fortune. OUR greed and need for material things built them. If you want to be mad at someone, go look in a mirror and then put away your checkbook and your credit cards and STOP buying everything your little heart desires. Save it, invest it and then you can hang on to it and take care of yourself and your family.

Smitty said:

This proves that the rich will always help the rich. Its that special club where money gets you. All you righties who make less than 250k and you vote for Rmoney you will have shot yourselves in the ass.

I'm a conservative and I make a lot less than 250k, but I will always support business of all size (the vast majority are business's under 250k) as they are the one's that hire people and make the economy turn. I'm not real concerned about the burger flippers and WalMart workers. I'll be more concerned about them when they actually start paying their fair share of federal and state income taxes - something you on the left like to continually accuse business of not doing. Pretty hypocritical!

Well you don't donate to the a$$ whole trying to take you down and talking s#$t about you all the time!

Obama sucks, Romney sucks even more. End of story.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

I see the Liberal bobble heads are out in force.

How dare those mean, nasty, rich corporations give millions to Romney. This isn't fair! Corporations are not people.

Right Libbies?

But the goonions are, right? The same unions who have spent $4.4 billion from 2005-2011 on political activity. $1.1 billion was reported to the Federal Election Commission, but those sneaky unions reported $3.3 billion to the Labor Department over the same period on political activity.

Hypocrites!

Mitt-Romney style of CEOsTo gain only profits

Regardless at whatever cost? Why cares !even dumping the Country to the drain?,create business lies,create taliban ideology for war's profiteering,Business rich dont pay taxes,only the poor pay taxes mode,remove Business Ethic,create unethical by profit of these portfolio unmoral philosophies,teleological,egoism,justice,utilitarianism,deontological,relativism.

DUMPING THESE PROFIT OBSTACLES 1) ETHICAL (MORAL) JUDGMENT. 2) ETHICAL (MORAL) INTENT. 3) ETHICAL (MORAL) BEHAVIOR

Big mess-Mitt Romney,BP,Enron,Wall Street,Arthur Andersen,ImClone,Healthsouth and thousand of them to list.

Harley Chic

If you just won the lottery and had $100,000.00 to invest, who would you give it to, Obama or Romney?

The choice is clear - Romney 2012!

I hope you are not giving investment advice on this basis. The clear choice is neither. You invest in yourself and do something positive with it. Build a business, invest in Muni's...

A must read for Romney fans:

The war is on, more and more people as they drop out of the labor market are going to wake up to the fact that we have been at war since 1980 and with the exception of 1992-2000 the rich are winning the war. Hopefully, a few independents will read this and think, something those middle class republicans are incapable of. When I was a young lad, starting my first job on average CEO's only made 25 times the amount of money I did. Now its 250 times the average person that actually does the work.

My grand mother never worked outside of the house. She maintained a good house too. Grandpa had a factory job, no education and managed to work his way up into management. They owned a house, and other property they bought for speculation. Etc.

My dad dropped out of school in the 10th grade, joined the Navy and fought a war. When he returned there was plenty of work to go around. He supported us bought a house and a car every three years. Kept a second care until he retired just to drive back and forth to work. Mom worked for about 10 years, she provided the extras. I had one year of college before I dropped out I managed to make it to retirement own my own home. Etc.

The point of this whole thing. History needs to repeat itself. The middle class needs more money in their pocket and Governor Romney won't do that. He is being bought by the very people in this country whose ripping the money off from those like me who really earn their money for them. You middle class republicans can mark my words before this is over, there very well could be full fledged riots in the street with a lot of burning and looting. History repeating itself. We are at war.

It is the shame of this country that the top 1% do not pay their fair share, are withholding jobs while Veterans sleep under bridges and children go to bed hungry. Not one person in this country should have to go without basic health care and shelter of some sort should be a given. What ever it takes.

Make it emphatic, vote straight democratic.

And Americans are likely to vote for Romney 4 to 1 over Obama too!

However, MSNBC or DNC employees like Feisty Redhead,who apparently have unparalleled access to this Newsvine so they can make Post 1.0, will do all they can to prop up the most incompetent man we've ever elected President.

NOBAMA 2012!

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John in Battle Creek

Hopefully, a few independents will read this and think, something those middle class republicans are incapable of.

As an Independent, when I read this I thought - If he had a real argument, he wouldn’t resort to insults.

The middle class needs more money in their pocket and Governor Romney won't do that.

What do you base this on besides your own opinion? Romney’s economic plan keep taxes low for the middle class. Analyzing his record on taxes and spending as Governor will show that his policies were beneficial to the middle class as jobs and wages grew for them under Romney’s watch in MA. What will take money out of the hands of the middle class for generations is the national debt, which has increased more in 3+ years under Obama than under GWB, and GWB’s spending was atrocious. The tax increase Obama plans on the wealthy won’t cover a ¼ of the deficit spending, let alone bring down the debt AT ALL.

He is being bought by the very people in this country whose ripping the money off from those like me who really earn their money for them.

Obama also gets money from these people, why do you not hold him accountable? Very hypocritical. Personally I believe both are guilty of getting money from suspicious and corrupt donors.

It is the shame of this country that the top 1% do not pay their fair share, are withholding jobs while Veterans sleep under bridges and children go to bed hungry.

What do you consider “fair share”?

Not one person in this country should have to go without basic health care and shelter of some sort should be a given. What ever it takes.

No one does. There are housing subsidies, public housing, shelters, non-profit organizations, food stamps, free clinic healthcare, and free hospital care available right now.

Make it emphatic, vote straight democratic.

What an absurd and ignorant statement. As if a single party has a monopoly on everything that is right or wrong in our society. Let’s hope that voters are more intelligent and not as lazy as yourself and will actually research the candidates, their records, their positions and make an educated decision.

John in Battle Creek

The war is on, more and more people as they drop out of the labor market are going to wake up to the fact that we have been at war since 1980 and with the exception of 1992-2000 the rich are winning the war. Hopefully, a few independents will read this and think, something those middle class republicans are incapable of. When I was a young lad, starting my first job on average CEO's only made 25 times the amount of money I did. Now its 250 times the average person that actually does the work.

YESSSSS!!!!!

John I am SO glad you brought that up. So, I assume you were a young “lad” between 1975 and 1980, right? You’re probably wondering how I know that, right?

Well, I’m looking at a graph here called, “CEO-to-worker compensation ratio, with options granted and options realized, 1965-2011”. Now, the options issue isn’t important but the ratio of compensation you may find very interesting. The interesting part is that depending on the CEO compensation measure, U.S. CEOs in major companies earned 20.1 or 18.3 times more than a typical worker in 1965; this ratio grew to 29.0-to-1 or 26.5-to-1 in 1978 and 58.5-to-1 or 53.3-to-1 by 1989 and then surged in the 1990s to hit 383.4-to-1 or 411.3-to-1 by the end of the recovery in 2000. The fall in the stock market after 2000 reduced CEO stock-related pay (e.g., options) and caused CEO compensation to tumble until 2002 and 2003.

Hmmmm, it seems the biggest wage discrepancy occurred during Bill Clinton’s terms. Was he a Republican? It seems the rich were kicking our a$$ between 1992 and 2000. I don’t remember you Liberals screaming from the “fairness” mountaintop back then. It seems this talking point is just another limp-wristed effort to blame those mean nasty corporations that you all depend on for your jobs, incomes and investments.

Here’s the link:

epi.org/publication/ib331-ceo-pay-top-1-percent/ (Go to Figure A to see the graph)

Your trip down memory lane is very touching and many of us Boomers can relate. Unfortunately you are delusional if you think we will ever see the level of wealth, prosperity and standard of living the uneducated enjoyed back then. Those days are long gone.

The reason is the world has gotten much bigger and it has also gotten much smaller. It got bigger because it took humanity up until 1960 to create 3 billion people on this planet, since then we have added over 4 billion more. It has gotten much smaller because of technology. Events that used to take days, like news, or travel that took weeks, like crossing the Atlantic, happen much faster today. As a result the world has learned what we did at the beginning of the industrial revolution, mostly from us, and are incorporating it in their own emerging nations. This is the big difference. To think that the rest of the world was going to just sit by and allow us to be the premier economy, military force and industrial nation forever is wishful thinking.

After WW I, the Depression and WW II we were the only standing industrial nation as the rest of the world laid in economic and military ruin. The world, and America, needed rebuilding, and rebuild it we did. The problem is, we forgot what got us there. We didn’t build the strongest economy and military on the backs of government, we built it on domestic exportable manufacturing industries. As we benefitted from our new found wealth and prosperity we forgot to be vigilant of our government. As our standard of living grew, so did our government, not proportionally, disproportionately. It began to intrude on the private sector and the result is we went from an economy built on 53% exportable manufacturing in 1960 to 9% today.

More importantly we neglected our education system completely. Yes, you could drop out of 10^th grade in the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and even the 80’s, walk into most factories and get a reasonable job. Today many of those jobs have been replaced by outsourcing or innovation, technology and automation. The emerging economies are catching up to us. And as much as we want to reject that, they have to. There is no way we could produce everything the 7 billion people on this planet need if we tried. But we can be competitive nonetheless.

Getting to the competitive level will require a lot of changes. Unfortunately the changes are not the simple little tweaks the “Hope-and-Change" cabal want. We have allowed our once envied export manufacturing industries to be reduced to some nonsensical consumption/service sector hybrid economy. We have tried that for 30 years and it has proven to be an abysmal failure. When we became consumed with consumption, to the point of living off of credit cards, second mortgages and home equity loans to quench our need for more “stuff”, the result we see today is easy to understand.

We have to be honest, we have lived, as a nation, far beyond our means and the message is, for the foreseeable future, that we will be forced to live beneath our means as all this debt is paid and the necessary corrections are made.

This will be the hardest part for many Americans.

They favor Romney 4 to 1? What's up with that "1"? Duh!

Romney favors and uses the same exaggeratedly low tax rate at the top end that encourages them to remove money from the business CHEAPLY through huge personal paydays versus reinventing in equipment or jobs... (wordy but true).

We suppose if Romney wins, these CEOs will quit outsourcing and off-shoring. Close down their Cayman Islands financial tax-havens accounts. Start hiring Americans, especially the Blacks.

OH NO!!! It is called TRICKED UP ECONOMICS. see..trickle down never worked.

Harley Chic

If you just won the lottery and had $100,000.00 to invest, who would you give it to, Obama or Romney?

The choice is clear - Romney 2012!

You need to add "if gun was to your head" to this analogy because anyone who won the lottery and willingly gave it to one of these F***tards to invest needs to club themselves to death.

The choice is clear - Coin Flip at the voting both 2012!

Hope and Change is now Mope and Blame

Sociopaths and Mormons for Romney!

Pf course the republicans corporate bosses contribute 4 times the money to Romney. How else wouldy ou expect them to buy the republican party?

Yeah, Bush isn't to blame for anything. It was really Obama that started both of those wars and cut taxes. Heck, it's Obama's fault for 911 and probably World War II.

The wealthy aren't a problem, they only are hiding 32 trillion in offshore accounts.

Yeah vote for Romney, like Pelosi says, "we have to elect Romney to know what he stands for".

@eric

Bush went to congress and congress authorized the wars. Why do you so conveniently leave that out every time you try to blame bush? YOUR DEMOCRAT CONGRESSMEN VOTED FOR IT

The wealthy aren't the problem, you are absolutely correct. The problem is half of the people in this country want other peoples wealth without working for it. Call it entitled if you may.

Yeah Vote Obama, the most hostile president to private enterprise that we have ever had in the white house. Vote for Obama, someone who truely has never made a dollar outside of government.

Its worked out so well for us so far, you know, his pledge to be the most transparent ever... can you sense the sarcasm?

Edit: i would hide my money offshore if this greedy president wanted to get his redistrubtive hands on it too. people shouldn't be entitled to my money for just existing...

Sure Brendan, based on lies. Who wouldn't believe the president at that time? Why would he have made up Iraq WMD capability? Oh I don't know to keep a second term.

Hostile to private enterprise? Show me where this has occurred. BTW, he may have made most of his money in government but not all. I seem to remember him donating the proceeds of his recent book. And I guess you never heard of cabinet?

You would hide your offshore money. Nice comment as if you would ever be that successful. BTW, since you need to learn about government find out who is responsible for taxes. BTW, D-bag. the 32T didn't start with Obama so the US has been getting screwed for a long time. You just choose to acknowledge it now that Obama is president. Hypocrite!

Adam, uhhh, you must be blind and/or ignorant of the situation to think Obama is not hostile to private enterprise. Look at his gaffe a few weeks ago, the infamous " you didn't build that" remark. Notice how he has been walking back his comments ever since.

The only reason his book was sucessful is because he is a sitting president. 100% of Obama's income outside book sales have come from government. He has never held an hourly job, what does he know? He has never started a business, what would he know?

Yes i would hide my offshore money. If the money was invested and profits are made outside of the USA, what right does the USA have to my money?

When you can't debate principle, default to calling me a D-bag. Nice one! By the way im independent and am a Ron Paul supporter, so i don't fit the typical repub/democrat model as you do.

I got it....it was the congressman and senators fault, Bush had nothing to do with it.

It must have been Obama that said we would be out of Iraq in 6 months.

Republicans have been redistributing the wealth via "trickle down" economics since Reagan. The problem is, the wealthy are keeping the money, nothing is trickling down, and they aren't hiring.

Talk about transparency, Romney is the least transparent nominee for the Presidency ever !

Keep trusting businesses, you know, Barclay's didn't do anything really wrong. It was only price fixing.

You two are fighting like a bunch of spoiled little brats...There's a saying "Don't let yesterday use up too much of today"...Retrospection is a good thing, but obsessing over it and using it as an excuse for any lack of forward movement is pathetic and cowardly.

Eric.. I never said that bush didn't have anything to do with it. Your twisting my words. To place blame soley on bush is ignorant of how wars start.

So if we have tried trickle down as you say, do you suggest taxing the wealthy as a form of forceful restributive policy so the middle class can grow? Do we just send checks to the middle class from the rich's checking account? How do you propose?

Talk about transparency, Obama refused to release school transcripts. Obama meets with Lobbyists across the street from the white house so they arent on the visitor logs. Obama signed the NADA.. talk about transparency!!

Barclays is a british bank, well outside of US jurisdiction. Try to keep up mate.

How could the economy ever be robust???? GWB left the economy as a hot mess, and you think it should be ROBUST by now??? Lol. you people are clueless.

Eric...you're way off base. Dem/Libs made it clear in no uncertain terms for years that Bush was responsible for everything that ever went wrong since the Big Bang.

Obama has never done anything wrong in his life. We got it already.

Can we move on to intelligent debate?

No surprise - Romney is of the rich, for the rich, and by the rich.

Top CEOs donate to Romney over Obama by 4-to-1 margin

I want to know which are the one in four that are stupid enough to donate to a democrat...

The !% already owns 42% of the wealth and that is up from 40% the year before. It is called GREED and that is what will get. Ike warned of the Military industrial complex back in the 50's and he was a republican. A smart one which is hard to find now a days.

Why is this news? This is completely expected, and if people read the article, it says the same thing. Must be a slow news day in politics.

Surprise Surprise Surprise!

They really do believe that they alone can buy this election and continue to jump through tax loopholes with no penalties!

Yo Romney the time has come to face reality---you may get the bucks but you don't have the guts skill or intelligence to better this country for all the people not just your golf and equestrian buddies.

remember the pains of Bush, Romney will bring them back two-fold!

Brendan 4,

I'm serious. since you are a Ron Paul supporter you believe that all illegal drugs should be made legal? That is smart for our country!

I think Romney should run on the Hope and Change platform...with emphasis on transparency. It's a proven winner!!

God help us, we are so @!$%#ed...

It could be robust if you get off the rich peoples case.

Eric likes to tell you the rich are hiding it. They aren't. They have invested this money overseas because overseas investment makes more sense than investing here in the US. The money they have over there is profits. Profits that are remaining after their gross profit was taxed at 25 - 35%. If they bring that money into the US, the will lose another 40 - 60% in Federal, State and local taxes.

Would you do that. If these corporate boards did, the shareholders would fire them!

Your problem is greedy politicians who take other people tax money to give to people who vote for them. What has happened is the cost has become too great for businesses to bare, so they have bailed.

All you have to do is give a period of 2 or 3 years where the Federal tax is greatly reduced IF they bring the funds back and invest in American production. Combine that with a cut in federal regulation and It's a win - win proposeal that will bring between 1 & 2 Trillion dollars back into our economy..

Keep on playing that class warfare stuff commies. We need fresh thinking instead of this two party old boys club crap.vote for Ron Paul,write him in.

Yep, greedy billionaires support another greedy billionaire who will work his hardest to make them trillioniares while the rest of us are reduced to dog-do.

clwyd

Im pro-choice for drugs. You should regulate what you put into your body, not the government. Are you implying if all drugs were legal tomorrow that you would go out and be a druggie because they are legal?

get real, and try to keep up.

Ok, so the 1%ers are increaesing their percentage of total wealth. Let's look at what economic demographic is increasing their base more rapidly and what they do with their entitlements, they spend it on the things that the 1%ers offer for sale. The rich get richer and the dumb multiply significantly!

@eric

"The wealthy aren't the problem, you are absolutely correct. The problem is half of the people in this country want other peoples wealth without working for it. Call it entitled if you may."

You do realize that the vast majority of the wealthy got their money handed to them... well over 90%.......By not working for it but rather by inheriting it... research this if you think I'm wrong. So its okay if the wealthy don't work for their entitlements but you have a problem with the non-wealthy. So as one poster said it above... if you vote republican and don't make 250 k a year you are not voting in your best interest. In fact I'd take it one step farther and say you're probably mentally challenged

President Obama has brainwashed his minions to think that they can get along without big business.

Whoa! Who is brainwashed here?

Big Business does nothing. They have no use whatsoever. The people who make air conditioners and toasters and cars and toothpicks all still live in this country. And guess what! They all still know how to make those items.

If Big Business were to disappear tomorrow we'd have a nation fully employed.

You are the one who is brain washed.

@MR.

How is inheriting money from YOUR OWN FAMILY an entitlement? Are we suposed to feel privaledged when the government lets our family keep our own money? Are you saying its OK that the government steal money from our families when we pass away? What the F??

Your argument has got to be the most asinine and un-american post ive seen here in a long time.

Holy cow these boards have reached a new low.

Ill take my comments one step further. A vote for a liberal democrat is a vote for an un american president.

What a selective memory. Even BILL CLINTON said they had WMDs and based off his own knowledge and intelligence gathering while he was president. Regardless. Obama/Bush numbsculls are both resposible. Obama needed to end these wars when he took office. Instead he promised and then said but lied and we had combat missions only 15 days after all combat troops were removed. We keep buying this nonsense from both sides and the nutty left and the nutty right keep arguing so loudly that they forget the details. Both are and have been doing the same thing. Obama is GWB the third and Romney is Obama the second. They are two in the same.

@brendan-4: You are obviously 100% insane, and watching too much Fox News. Let me show you some FACTUAL information about who voted for the Iraq resolution of October 2002. Just a little preview; while you think it was the democrats that tipped the scales, you are clearly wrong. Many of them supported it, but not the majority:

House of Representatives
Republicans for: 215 (96.4% of republicans)
Republicans against: 6 (2.7% of republicans)
Democrats for: 82 (39% of Dems)
Democrats against: 126 (60% of Dems)

Senate
Republicans for: 48 (98% of republicans)
Republicans against: 1 (2% of republicans)
Democrats for: 29 (57% of dems)
Democrats against: 21 (41% of dems)

I suggest before you type on that stupid keyboard of yours, you check your FACTS. The FACTS here are that the democrats were quite split, though the majority did not support the war. It is also a FACT, that the VAST majority of warmongering Republicans DID support the war. WELL over 95% overall. The other thing is that democrats based their decisions on what we now know to be FALSE intelligence stating that Iraq held WMD's. Republicans don't care, because they are nothing more than warmongers, no matter what. It's all about defense spending, and war war war, because that's what lines their pockets. War is profitable, because Republicans don't actually care about people. They care about money money money.

Stop being so ignorant, and please STFU.

LeftLeaningLisa

I can see I touched a nerve, nice. Im independent so please don't spew your partisan b.s.

Still can't debate the fact that democrats did support the war initially.

You people have seen nothing yet ! I bet "MITTWIT" will raise more money than any other candidate in history once his Mormon cult starts dumping money into one of his so called "super PAC's". What they don't know is that America cant justify replacing a loser with an even BIGGER loser. As sick as this makes me to say I believe that we may as well just keep the ass clown we have now and maybe in 4 years the Republicans can come up with a better choice than the jerk-off they have running now

You do realize that the vast majority of the wealthy got their money handed to them... well over 90%.......By not working for it but rather by inheriting it... research this if you think I'm wrong.

According to PNC's fourth annual Wealth and Values survey, your claim is BS.

"PNC's fourth annual Wealth and Values Survey revealed that 69 percent
 of Americans with $500,000 or more in investable assets accumulated most of
 their fortune by earning it through work, business ownership or
 investments. This compares to the 6 percent who attained their wealth
 primarily through inheritance. The remaining 25 percent gained their wealth
 through a combination of inheritance and earnings."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/most-affluent-americans-earn-their-wealth-feel-more-secure-during-economic-downturns-pnc-survey-reveals-57351597.html

Banks have sure done a great job of restoring trust. NO issues with deregulation. As the government is bought by corporations, they don't care who wins because they always win. As you are not a 1% why would you vote to be self-destructive.

Because you lack basic intellectual skills necessary to discern data and make informed decision on your own. Look at the education levels of red states v. blues states and you will realize how the GOP fools their base into voting against their economic interests. Pretty sad actually.

Lastly, i would say from this article that if a CEO has an off shore account (which I am sure most do) you are going to vote for donald duck in order to preserve you individual wealth. Even if the country is worse off, how patriotic!!

A 5m I sure would hope so!

Ignorance simply breeds more ignorance---if a EO cannot survive on 5M a year, plus kickbacks, SS, Health Ins and 401K's then I feel very sorry for them---maybe they should loose thier job and come back to reality!

Ceo's worry about their jobs just as much as anyone else does. If you were making $5 million per year and got it cut off suddenly, do you think you would be in good shape financially?

I would hope so. No one is forcing people to live an unsustainable, lavish lifestyle, that it their own greed. If someone makes 5 million a year and doesn't put a chunk enough a way their first year to survive if things go bad, then they need to cut back on luxury and plan. You can live a very nice lifestyle on half of that and with proper planning, retire on 2.5 million if you had to and never run out of money as long as you don't need the best and biggest of everything.

Go,

"I too would support the candidate that was pro-business and who didn't go around vilifying me every chance he got."

Can you give an example of this vilification?

Eric

CEO's might make big money, but often lose there families. Clearly, you've never worked with a CEO, I have.

Where else can you buy a Presidency but America, get ready for a Buck fifty wage if Romney wins. Minimum Wage, We don't need no stinking minimum wage, we'll just starve them out, Hell we'll just create our own CHEAP labor.

DarkShadow,

Good to see that you are the judge/jury of what someone else wants to do with their money.

This situation is reflective of what our business leaders already know. Namely, that Obama has ZERO clue as to how the economy works. Let's face it, companies are not going to begin hiring again until Barack is gone. Unfortunately, they cannot afford the risk given the hostility our POTUS has brought to bare on the business community.

We need more hope and change! Transparency too! Stand up Chuck, stand up! Holder isnt hiding anything you vultures! The economy is about to take off. When you first step on the peddle, most cars hesitate just slightly before they set you back in your seat!

And this is all the American people need to know to vote for ABR (Anyone but Romney). Otherwise, the oligarchy that would replace our constitutional democracy will ensue. It doesn't matter that the rich are a small percent of the population, in fact that's the very problem -- that such a small percent are also the powerful that control everything. The Gilded Age of the Robber Barons and Monopolies -- Been there, done that, don't need to do it again.

Rick's Real

There's a part of me that hopes that Romney wins so that, once again four years after the fact, Liberals will once again be able to say "see... same old ideas, brought same old problems, brought on a whole new economic collapse".

You're naively assuming the rightwing nuts learn anything, ever. Did they learn Saddam had NO ties to Al Qaeda? Did they learn there were NO WMD (no these were not moved to Syria)? Did they learn the president IS a legal citizen of this country? Do they accept that St. Reagan raised taxes 11 times, and no Republican president has balanced the budget since Nixon, or has had a surplus since Eisenhower?

Look at Teapublicans now, wanting to elect someone who will take the country back to the same failed GOP/Bush-era policies -- Not just voodoo economics, but also neocon warmongering, and religious radicalism. Most are so brainwashed they are clueless, but some know very well the ramifications and actually work to undermine the middle class and our constitutional democracy -- Like Romney's Private Inequity associate who openly advocates the rich controlling everything, and the rest of the population living in poverty.

Thanks to FAUX Noise/Hate Radio/Conspiracy Theory websites and chain Emails, as well as gerrymandering, a poor education system, religion and anti-intellectualism, etc. the rightwing have become so radical as to be insane and a scourge to our society. If only there really was such a thing as "liberal bias" in education or the media, then perhaps we could begin deprogramming them.

This should be of no surprise when Romney has vowed to end capital gains tax... which would bring his effective tax rate and the rates of wealthy like him close to 0%. And he has vowed to cut taxes for everyone but also broaden the base effectively increasing taxes on the poor while cutting them for the rich.

It should be obvious by now this is the 1%-ers candidate.

Obama vilified doctors and pharmaceutical companies when trying to pass ACA. Obama called banking industry executives Fat Cats. He has continually pitted one group against another by appealing to the basest of human traits - envy.

I quadrupled my wage under Bush. Fell backwards under Obama. I'm looking forward to 8 years with Romney. ROMNEY 2012!

With regard to the "you did not build it" talking point: For heaven's sake stop relying upon Fox News and Karl Rove to interpret what President Obama said. I will not insult you by telling you what he said or interpreting it for you but beg you to listen for yourself.

Rove believes that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth. He continues to insult the American people and gets away with it.

CNN rocks, screw you foaux news! Wolf Blitzer is cool...the last 10 years of his employment were a daze!

Was this article a surprise to anyone?

To @JacksBackInBlack: Obama NEVER said that they didn't build their businesses, but that they needed the social and material infrastructure that others built to enable their businesses to grow and flourish.

It doesn't help Romney's case that almost all the grumpy businessmen in his ads have gotten -- as Romney has -- government loans and other subsidies.

Why wouldn't they support Mitt? they know he will be better for business than Obama!

I have to agree, but the thing that has always puzzled me is why don't the poor and middle class always vote for the only party (democratic) that has ever done anything for them. I'm retired and I have friends who like me are collecting social security and medicare and are planning on voting Republican. It makes absolutely no sense. The whole idea is to vote for the people that are going to do what's good for you. In the end the people that get in are going to do the best for the majority, that's called a democracy.

Why wouldn't they support Mitt? they know he will be better for business than Obama!

What baffles me is that 1 in 4 actually donate to O'bama haha. WTF?

John Oconner, I think the issue is common sense. Nothing wrong with voting for people who will "do the most" for you. But alot of people have higher morals and common sense. The understand anything the government gives you was taken from someone else. You are better off with less government over the long term. ROMNEY 2012!

What did O'bama mean when he said that "Now is the time that we will lower the seas?"

The fact that more business leaders support Romney is not surprising.

In this corner is Mitt Romney - a Baker scholar at Harvard Business School, a titan of industry at Bain Capital, a turnaround expert (see the 2002 Winter Olympics).

In that corner is Barack Obama - whose only private sector job was as a part-time law instructor.

so how does the rest of the Obama quote go "...you didn't build that...."

I'm sure Fox played the whole thing for you, no, just a sound bite.. oh I see. Well here you go. Let me know if you need help reading it..

"Look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own," Obama said then. "I'm always struck by people who think, 'Well, it must be because I was just so smart.' There are a lot of smart people out there. 'It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.' Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help."

Obama cited teachers and mentors who helped "create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges."

Then, Obama teed up the line that left Republicans giddy. "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet," Obama said, returning to his thesis.

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

For further context:

Quoted from Elizabeth Warren - nearly a year earlier

She said: "There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody." And then she hit her stride:

"You built a factory out there? Good for you," she says. "But I want to be clear: You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did."

As for the tax implications, Warren said: "Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along."

If the facts are just an inconvenience then I understand.

That is the most bone-headed post I have seen in years. I work for a corporation and they treat us very well. I started and owned a small business in the mid 80's and my employees were hired after we actually got it going and were paid well. I took no pay until I felt the bottom line was safe enough to do so.

Stop parroting the liberal/progressive/socialist talking points and actually think for a change.

If the facts are just an inconvenience then I understand

...and libs never take things out of context now do they haha. This is how the game is played. Disgusting isnt it. I dont like it either.

DarkShadow,

Good to see that you are the judge/jury of what someone else wants to do with their money.

This situation is reflective of what our business leaders already know. Namely, that Obama has ZERO clue as to how the economy works. Let's face it, companies are not going to begin hiring again until Barack is gone. Unfortunately, they cannot afford the risk given the hostility our POTUS has brought to bare on the business community.

Victor, when I see someone going to bat over the poor worries of someone making 5 million a year, you are dead on that I am going to judge. Why should I be concerned how some rich guy is going to be able to afford his yacht when there are people (probably under his own payroll somewhere down the line) trying to make ends meet. If someone is making 5 million a year and can't survive after losing their job, then that shows the lack of intellect for which they probably got fired in the first place.

These companies that are taking the economy hostage for their own greed deserve no support whatsoever. These companies have created the hostile market by their only desire to increase company profit and the amount the CEO's can stuff into their pockets. Small enterprise is done because of the influence these huge corporations have over everything. If they refuse to do the hiring, then other companies will pop up and do it for them. If they want to continue then they can stop being spoiled children and holding the economy up and start doing business the new way with emphasis on the people, not CEO mansions. The old capitalist economy is dead along with the American dream due to the influence of mega-corporations. Once we started bailing out corporations we no longer could claim being a capitalist society, we are knee deep in corporate socialism, using anything we have to save the almighty corporation.

MireV03

This should be of no surprise when Romney has vowed to end capital gains tax... which would bring his effective tax rate and the rates of wealthy like him close to 0%. And he has vowed to cut taxes for everyone but also broaden the base effectively increasing taxes on the poor while cutting them for the rich.

To quote Romney (about blind trusts) "It's a ruse." Offering tax cuts "to everyone" is how they get popular support for tax cuts for the rich. The Bush tax cuts started out this way with the 2001 cuts applying to all income brackets. But then the Republicans narrowly passed the 2003 breaks for dividends, capital gains, estate tax, etc. that ONLY applies to the richest 2%. The main problem is the cuts and tax credits always benefit the rich WAY more than the rest of the population -- And Romney's plan is even more "severe" in benefiting the rich more than the working poor. And then if congress tries to make the tax code more fair later, good luck with that.

Kornfed

What baffles me is that 1 in 4 actually donate to O'bama haha. WTF?

Of course it would baffle you and other RWNJs to think that there are some rich and powerful people in this country that actually love this country. They are in Hollywood, Silicon Valley, and even a few on Wall Street (though the financial guys are probably just hedging).

The Bush tax cuts are going to expire, and I for one will celebrate, and will fight like crazy to keep Romney and his crony capitalists from taking control of our Republic and democracy. ABR!

As someone standing somewhere in the middle it sure is obvious to duck down and let the two opposing sides shoot it out. You guys are destroying yourselves thus my Country.

You mean bankers like Bob Diamond of Barclays, Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan, Sandford Weill of CitiGroup, you mean those fatcat bankers?

Show one time when President Obama vilified doctors. Just one time that can be verified.

You want to talk about pitting one group against another. How about taking a comment completely out of context and trying to use it to divide people who started their own businesses from everyone else in this country that uses the infrastructure, educational system, police protection, fire protection and many other services that have been created and maintained by the country as a community. Just one example of the hard work Romney's putting in to gaining power at the expense of honesty. And don't even try to equate repeating lies, even after they have been exposed as lies, to not being able to keep campaign promises. What he said before saying what he wanted as a result was that he would WORK to make these things happen. With the current cast of rabid alley cats that comprise the Republican freshmen class of the House of Reps, it's amazing that there has been anything accomplished.

And Arther,

Romney only needed $1.6 billion tax payer dollars to "save" those Olympics. Good time small government there.

If that don't tell you which side he is on and who will gain the most by him winning, nothing will .

To..Arthur""""

And the last president we had was a business man ..okay a failed one in oil of all things ..but they sure do know how to cook the books now don't they ..

I'm sure Obama's comment, you didn't build that didn't float too well with people who have spent their entire lives working for and building corporations.

don't let the fact that he didn't say that influence your bigotry.

When did we turn into a society so ignorant someone can chop off half the comment and we just believe them?

Show one time when President Obama vilified doctors. Just one time that can be verified.

O'bamacare

Let's Be Honest

PAC $ is BRIBERY.

Legalized by the Supreme Court

We The People are pawns in a big money game.

The Bush tax cuts are going to expire, and I for one will celebrate, and will fight like crazy to keep Romney and his crony capitalists from taking control of our Republic and democracy. ABR!

Bush tax cuts were across the board. Careful for what you wish for.

2Sense - So Obama plagiarized Elizabeth "Fauxcahontas" Warren?

That makes the quote even worse!!!

Do you all really hate each other so much? I am over 60 and have never seen this country so divided by politics. It is only politics it is not life. I have never really been impacted on a personal level by a President unless he has put us at war.

Why would anyone hate Obama or Romney? They are both patriots who want to do what they think is right for our country and it is of course normal to disagree on the best path toward a better America. I do not believe that all this liberal vs conservative crap does one good thing for this country and it seems to get worse by the day.

We now have a person in congress who is suggesting that there is a Muslim take over going on under our noses? Are we that stupid to think that could happen from within. Christ no one gets to be President for more than eight years. What ever happened to "I might not agree with you but will defend with my life your right to say it!"

John

I have to agree, but the thing that has always puzzled me is why don't the poor and middle class always vote for the only party (democratic) that has ever done anything for them.

And therein lies the problem, John. A large voting bloc in this country wake up every morning thinking, "I wonder what the government is going to do for me today???"

OWNEDBYFEW

you are correct all this back stabbing on the part pf the right has got to stop.. unless of course they can start telling the truth..

newest CEO on the scene is a woman .. she is the exec of YAHOO at $70 million per year plus options and all the other things that we can't have by the way for a the private organization IOC, ROMNEY got them with the help of a lot of right wing folks in the congress, $1.3 billion remember it's a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION but we funded the city of mormons to build the facilities for the games in salt lake

you folks know the rest, nothing for the 98%.. if that is wrong please me know

Arthur, the 'fact' that more CEO's support Romney is for one reason and one reason only; more money in THEIR wallets as opposed to their employee's wallets. In your corner and not standing for anything, is a draft-dodging, corporate-raiding, pension-stealing, federal money-grabbing, 'Olympic' outsourcer, who doesn't want to show anyone anything, even 'concrete' plans for the country, because he's always shaking that etch-a-sketch and redrawing hyperbolic messages only his 'God' from Kolob would understand. In the other corner AND standing; THE President.

Trail Lawyers, Unions, and illegals all give to Obama 4 - 1 yet no stories?

Of course CEOs who want their business to do well are not giving to Obama. This may be news for some of you but Obama has been the biggest economic failure since Hoover.

ARTHUR

perhaps it's time for you to get on the road and support Romney.. bu take lots of clothes cause you might get egged or something

Mitt Romney, the best candidate money can buy. Such a sad state of affairs. Especially if you're a Republican.

GoUSA wrote "If I were a CEO of a major corporation, I too would support the candidate that was pro-business and who didn't go around vilifying me every chance he got. To do otherwise would be self-destructive."

If that is the case, then why would one vote for Romney who vilifies business resources? Taking the side of giant corporations is not the same as PRO BUSINESS. It is simply pro-big business. It is about pro consolidation and elimiination of enginuities and inventions. It is about killing off dreamers. It is about continuing moving us back to the early 1890-1930, where the workers are powerless and elimination of the middle class. If you don't know, the greatest resource that USA IS our HUMAN CAPITAL. Lowering the cost of production through wage is absolutely stupid and short sighted.

Care to elaborate on Obama care Kornfed... or is it bad because you heard it on TV?

What part vilified doctors.... was it that no exclusion based on pre-existing conditions, was it the insurance companies cant drop you when you get sick, was it that insurance companies have to spend 80% of premium dollars on patient care instead of only 33%.

As someone that has actually read it, you seem absolutely clueless of its contents

Do you all really hate each other so much? I am over 60 and have never seen this country so divided by politics

O'bama, the Nobel Peace Prize winning uniter! Romney, not much better, he is a pandering fool...a used car salesman. We are doomed to failure

They are both patriots who want to do what they think is right for our country and it is of course normal to disagree on the best path toward a better America. I do not believe that all this liberal vs conservative crap does one good thing for this country and it seems to get worse by the day.

They are self serving politicians whos over inflated egos only have room for one love...themselves. Show me a man with unbending principles, and I will show him respect in return.

I do not believe that all this liberal vs conservative crap does one good thing for this country and it seems to get worse by the day

Its horrible for us. You can blame the two established parties for this as well. Our representatives are destroying us. A bunch of finger pointing can kickers with more love for themselves than for thier country.

So, let me understand this. Apparently nobody every built any business. Nobody ever accomplished anything. It was all just a big community project that everyone pitched in equally on. Right. Got it. It's a great strategy for expanding the nanny state that is developing nicely in this country, not to mention a superb talking point for launching a new communist movement. Let's all just share the wealth equally. That's a great plan. It worked in the Soviet Union for about 70 years. But only because the government killed tens of millions of its citizens. Otherwise, it would have collapsed in 10 years. Our system is not perfect. It's simply the best system there is. If you don't like your lot in life then quit blaming everyone else and so something about it. This is the one country on the planet where you actually can. At least for now.

In your corner, a draft-dodging, corporate-raiding, pension-stealing, federal money-grabbing, 'Olympic' outsourcer, who doesn't want to show anyone anything, even 'concrete' plans for the country, because he's always shaking that etch-a-sketch and redrawing hyperbolic messages only his 'God' from Kolob would understand.

On the side; THE President.

I see you didn't list any of Obama's accomplishments, could it be becuase he doesn't have any?

Of course, they are voting their self interest (Romney will reduce taxes on the wealthy) and not the interest of the U.S.

".... we tried our plan -- and it worked .... I'll cut out government spending that's not working, that we can't afford ..."

How can we not believe Obama and the liberal democrats?!

Wake up! So the !% who own 42% of the wealth, up from 40% last year, want more. GREED, it is called!

MireV03,

I can't speak for the doctors, but I can speak to the reason several of the medical device companies have moved operations overseas. It's a pretty good example of how Obama has a good theory, but doesn't understand reality.

The medical device industry has taken a huge hit in their income, profits and value precisely because of the unknown impact and preparation for the ACA. While the implementation of the medical device excise tax was heralded as a small price to pay for all the extra customers the industry would receive as a result of the ACA.

The reality is that the prices of medical devices subject to the tax are set by the same federal government who implemented the tax through reimbursement policies as part of Medicare and have set them for many years. The only way to cover the additional tax is to reduce costs and the only way to do that is to reduce labor costs, thus transfer some manufacturing overseas.

While the tax is taking effect on January 1, 2013, there are not expected to be any new customers. This, along with more strict FDA regulations, has driven investors away from supporting new medical device companies in the US and starting many new companies in Europe, Israel, Australia and Asia.

This change is just an example of the negative consequences of an anti-business government.

Of course Mittens gets more support from industry than Obama. The Republican'ts stand for no rules (or, for the right donation your company can get an "exemption"; Wall Street gambling without having to pay for the consequences, No lending standards for Banks, vigilante justice becomes the law of the land and lies allowed if you get caught cheating.)

If people are stupid enough to vote for Romney then they get what they deserve. No whining will be allowed when the EPA is abolished and our air and water are so contaminated you cannot breathe and tap water cannot be used; when national standards for education are abolished and the schools your kid went to were so inferior that your kid cannot get into college; when our military can no longer specify what equipment they need because Congress is controlled by the defense contractors they sold out to; or when medical care becomes so expensive that only the uber wealthy can afford it.

Perhaps because they think he can get the recovery back on track?

Obama has certainly been a FAILURE in that regard.

Perhaps having a President that understands business would help create more jobs than the one that demonizes businesses.

If I were a CEO, I too would support the candidate that would bend public sentiment in my favor, allowing me to continue to reduce salaries and benefits, continue offshoring and outsourcing, and line my pockets at the expense of the taxpayers of this country.

Yeah, that's what I'd do. For sure. You bet.

Wake Up!

So the 1% who own 42% of the wealth, up from 40% last year, want more? GREED it is called!

JacksBackInBlack

Can you give an example of this vilification?

You didn't build that wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement for business.

And, of course, you know, the "you didn't build that" quote was in reference to the roads, bridges, and other infrastructure that ALL Americans get to use (and pay for) as part of the "common good". Presdient Obama made a verbal error, in that he didn't qualify what "that" is/was, however, anyone with half a brain can read/listen to the entire speech and determine he wasn't saying "you, who started that Deli 20 years ago, YOU DIDN't Build That,"; he was saying, because of the great American system, your business can succeed and THAT (building infrastructure) is what YOU didn't do all by yourself.

I love the cut/paste politics of 2012!

Let's get real.

CEO's support Romney because he will let them keep their profits that than making them share with their workers.

PERIOD.

Roy,

The failure is Congress. It is Congress's economy!

Bill-857242

".... we tried our plan -- and it worked .... I'll cut out government spending that's not working, that we can't afford ..."

How can we not believe Obama and the liberal democrats?!

Sweet Jeebus, seriously? Let me explain this to the feeble-minded -- What he have tried are the GOP/Bush-era policies, not just deficits don't matter when it comes to unnecessary warmongering, but more specifically in regard to supply-side voodoo economics that started during Reagan. We now know without a doubt that tax cuts do not pay for themselves, rather these are tax expenditures that create debt, that a top down approach of "trickle-down" tax cuts for the rich (who are not the job creators), does not trickle down, the invisible hand does not correct the market, and all the other superstition that conspiracy theory ignoramuses will fall for.

vwterry

Show one time when President Obama vilified doctors. Just one time that can be verified.

They heard it from some moron like Glenn Beck, therefore it must be true (NOT). The RWNJs have zero merit or facts to support their positions, so all they can do is repeat the lies and call people names.

peteMT,

How do you come up with that? Name a company that has reduces salaries and benefits that aren't in restructuring or bankruptcy.

armurray:

You do realize the major flaw in your arguement is by simply adding the tax to the price of the device, the cost is passed forward and spread across all medical consumers, right?

As far as no new customers are concerned, who are you defining as a customer? Patients, there will be plenty more now that the E.R. is not their Dr. of Choice; Hospitals, clinics, etc., they replace their medical equipment quite regularly to keep up with new technologies and procedures - and you know that, so stop the fear-mongering already.

The amazing part is how many CEO's are so stupid; apparently, there are many, many companies about to crater. A good thing for investors to know.

I'm just confused as to where intelligence has gone. GOP news stations like to lie and twist words and like sheep, their viewers gobble up every single word. You know, sheep used to be intelligent creatures, until stupidity was bred into its gene pool. I'm pretty sure this is what is happening with the GOP, and now they're trying to spread their idiocy like a disease.

stupid, stupid, stupid. Try thinking for yourselves.

Just Wrong,

You are just wrong. Since you didn't read my post, I'll repeat what I said about passing on costs. Medical device reimbursement rates are set by a federal Medicare reimbursement panel. Unless this panel agrees to increase reimbursement rates by 2.3%, companies cannot pass this new cost to consumers.

Obama stated that the new excise tax would be offset by the increased number of insured patients that would be new customers for the medical device industry. The problem with this is that 1) the current projections don't support increased numbers of insured and 2) if it does happen, it will be several years in the future. Business has to plan based on the information it has now which is lower business profits (just look at sales for the device companies).

Obama outspent Romney 4-1 in the swing states on attack ads & is STILL dropping in the polls.

Obama has spent more than $91 million on television ads in eight swing states as of July 6, a massive sum that dwarfs the $23 million former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney has disbursed on campaign commercials in those same places.

4-1 margin must be the trend. hehehe.

It won't take 4-1 spending to defeat a religious cult member.

clwyd - No, I think everyone wants to maximize their earnings and wealth. That's human nature and their's nothing wrong with that. How do you define "greed"? Is it anyone that wants more than what they currently have or is it just if someone that has more than YOU wants more? Most (not all) of the wealth created in this country is new wealth. It's created by building businesses, innovation, new technology, etc. It is simply unavoidable that wealth will be concentrated in small numbers. The 1% concept applies across the board - business, sports, art, music, Hollywood, science - everywhere. The most exceptional talent rises to the top. Fortunely for the rest of us, life can still be pretty good even if we can't rise to that level.

And - I never said they want more. They probably just want to keep what they have and not be villified because they are more successful than most. They pay more in taxes to support all this infrastructure that "helps" their business. They pay WAY more than their fair share of all taxes. And most don't complain too much until the government comes asking for more that they know damn well is going to wasted while the debt continues to increase.

Megamillionaires like the Koch brothers invest in politicians.

Don't you ever wonder what they expect their "return" to be after the election's over? I guarantee you they're expecting a big profit on those "contributions".

Obama outspent Romney 4-1 in the swing states on attack ads & is STILL dropping in the polls.

I don't think you're much familiar with the concept of fluctuations, are you?

That's what this country gets if we elect Romney. A spineless, gutless puppet on a string controlled by the rich.

No Rod, it is Obamas economy, he is the leader, he is responsible for bringing both sides together. All bills start in the house, and if it passes it goes to the senate, if they do not pass it, they need to find common ground, that is Harry Reids fault, but he is just doing what Obama wants him to do. Remember Bill Clinton, how he and a republican congress worked TOGETHER to find common ground. That is a leader.

@maxgiver - Your programming has not allowed you to understand my statement. Both the left and right are destroying my country.

To quote myself. "As someone standing somewhere in the middle it sure is obvious to duck down and let the two opposing sides shoot it out. You guys are destroying yourselves thus my Country."

Jacks,

Mr. Romney, met with four couples at the Bethel Park Community Center to talk about the deficit, health care and education. When Romney sat down at a picnic table set with cookies and lemonade he said “I’m not sure about these cookies,” Mr. Romney said. “They don’t look like you made them,” he said turning to one of the women at the table. “Did you make those cookies? You didn’t, did you? No. No. They came from the local 7-Eleven bakery or wherever.” (The video from the local CBS station is here.)

They came from the local Bethery bakery, A SMALL BUSINESS!

Obama's Works: Osama Bin Laden, DONE! Rugulations on banks stopping them from doing what they did under the Bush administration with housing, and peoples retirement, which also managed to bring out info on banks that laundered criminal money! DONE! stopped credit card companies from charging outragious fees, Due dates ect.. DONE! managed the housing market, implemented the Federal Ins. program to help stabalize the housing crash, which has recently reported it is working and is now making profit! DONE! Bush left the unemployment at 7.5 after it raised almost 3pnts, during his turn, and it is now at 8.2, not even a full point, he is doing everything he can to stop the bleeding, DONE! HealthCare, DONE! and much more! Now what is it the prior Republican administration did? and whose economic advisors also worked for Bush? Funny how none of the Bush's will be attending the GOP Convention! Just like Fox news doesn't like to bring those times back either, got to admit smart! but not working!

RealAmericansFirst,

And unions haven't had their "return" on investments during the previous 30 years? 13 of the top 20 donors during that time are unions, with less than 5% going to Republicans and only 1 of those 20 gave more to Republicans than Democrats.

@vrt1968 Hold on the mortgage mess started under Bill Clinton. 1994 National Homeownership Strategy .

What difference does it make? All politicians are crooked... Obama lies, Romney lies, Obama takes money, Romney takes money, Obama runs a negative campaign, Romney runs a negative campaign.

Obama is a complete failure leading the country, Romney might be.

Who cares.... I don't care how they are packaged - they both are skunks & this country is doomed.

Can't wait to retire and leave this all behind.

armurray - Sheldon Adelson alone gave $10 million bucks to Romney and has given over $71 million total to the GOP this election cycle.

Name me ONE "big buyer" who has ever tried to buy Democrats that way.

Those union contributions you complain about are made voluntarily by millions of working-class people in this country. There's the difference.

Here's a great article on the 16 billionaires who are trying to buy themselves a President Romney:

Right-Wing Billionaires Behind Mitt Romney

They're trying to buy a presidency - and they expect a big payoff on their investment

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/right-wing-billionaires-behind-mitt-romney-20120524#ixzz228rKJmz3

Ownedbyfew

The reality of more people to own homes did, but not what happened, nobody told these banks to do what they did, they did it on their own will for money, and was able to do it because their were no set regulations, but now that there is regulations set to stop them in the future from the Obama administration, they are tearing up! P.S. Fair is Fair, it happened on Bush's watch, Obama is left to clean the mess!

As an individual, I support Romney – if I owned a business, I would be shuffling as much money as the law allowed toward getting him elected.

I am forever hearing “corporate welfare,” “corporate greed,” blah, blah, blah.

1) Corporations and small businesses are what fund this company. They pay a ton of the taxes from their profits AND then they turn around and pay wages out of that same pot of money to the remaining members of society who pay the rest of the taxes with it. Just a thought, have you ever considered that if all their profits are going into taxes and Obamacare, what they will have left to pay you with? Pebbles and charcoal?

2) Since when is making a profit greed? Really? Do you seriously think there should be some sort of a bar that says you can’t earn more than X or we’ll consider it excessive? That kind of thinking falls under the category of jealousy. You’re jealous that so and so has managed to make a lot of money. I could understand that if they razzed your account and took it without your permission or got you to send in $100 for feather pillows and then sent you two chickens and a book on how to grow your own, but that’s not what happened. We, the American people, decided we needed bigger, better, and more –TVs, Cars, Houses, gas, stuff. They delivered and in the process made a fortune. OUR greed and need for material things built them. If you want to be mad at someone, go look in a mirror and then put away your checkbook and your credit cards and STOP buying everything your little heart desires. Save it, invest it and then you can hang on to it and take care of yourself and your family.

i was watching family guy last night.peter said something priceless.he was going to vote republican then changed his mind and deceided to vote for the democrate that votes exactly the same way as the republicans.everybody knows we have no voice in this game.we wont fight for a represenative government until we get physically hungry

@vrt1968 Government interfering in the market resulted in the mortgage business having to compete with lowered standards. Hence demand .Hence inflated prices. Hence a bubble. Regulation was late given the new reality stymied by conflict of interest.

Vote for Romney and he'll run America like a business!!

Ampad-5 Million $ Bain Investment = 100 Million $ pulled in dividends _- Loss of 385 jobs- Bankrupt in 2000

GS Industries 60 Million $ Bain Investment- 65 Million pulled in dividends-Loss of 750 jobs Bankrupt 2001

Dade International 450 Million $ Bain Investment-421 Million $ borrowed under Bain- Loss of 2000 jobs Bankrupt 2002

DDI Corp 46.3 Million $ Bain Investment-10 Million $ in "management Fees"-85.5 Million $ Profit- Loss of 2100 jobs- Bankrupt 2003

Stage Stores 5 Million $ Bain Investment-100 Million $ in stock offerings- Bankrupt 2000

Details Inc. 46 Million $ Bain Investment-93 Million $ made in stocks- Bankrupt 2003

I can hardly wait to see what American properties he'll liquidate for the benefit of his investors (campaign contributors). The Grand Canyon to Waste Management perhaps? Yellowstone Park to the cattle industry? I'm sure he'll put his creative mind towards such projects while reaping 0.10 cents on the dollar for America.

The board game Monopoly is beginning to make so much more sense to me.

RealAmericansFirst,

Top 20 donors over since 1989, all but the AMA and Auto Dealers Assn were Democratic donors...

1 Act Blue $66,869,298

2 American Fedn of State, $60,633,873

County & Municipal Employees

3 AT&T Inc $49,162,460

4 National Assn of Realtors $44,024,138

5 National Education Assn $42,066,188

6 Service Employees International Union $39,714,097

7 Goldman Sachs $39,330,264

8 American Assn for Justice $36,432,428

9 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $35,728,225

10 American Federation of Teachers $34,118,316

11 Teamsters Union $33,478,028

12 Laborers Union $33,246,240

13 Carpenters & Joiners Union $31,994,910

14 Communications Workers of America $31,633,527

15 Citigroup Inc $29,863,045

16 United Food & Commercial Workers Union $28,555,805

17 American Medical Assn $28,351,519

18 United Auto Workers $28,080,432

19 National Auto Dealers Assn $27,970,008

20 Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union $27,686,477

It must be because they just care so much about their fellow Americans and want to have the opportunity to help us out. Oh, it's so good to be their chattel!!

Mitt-Romney style of CEOs to gain only profits

Regardless at whatever cost? Why cares ! even dumping the Country to the drain?,create business lies,create taliban ideology for war's profiteering,Business rich dont pay taxes, only the poor pay taxes mode,remove Business Ethic,create unethical by profit of these portfolio of unmoral philosophies, teleological,egoism,justice,utilitarianism,deontological,relativism.

DUMPING THESE PROFIT OBSTACLES

1) ETHICAL (MORAL) JUDGMENT.

2) ETHICAL (MORAL) INTENT.

3) ETHICAL (MORAL) BEHAVIOR.

Big mess-Mitt Romney,BP,Enron,Wall Street,Arthur Andersen,ImClone,Healthsouth and thousand of them to list.

Obama's donors, hmm let's see. Communist party, socialists, unions, where the saying is 'I don't care, give me my check'

The Republican wet dream election strategy solution:

Since Mitt Romney believes "Corporations are people, my friend... of course they are..." (Iowa State Fair, Aug. 11, 2011), all the Republicans need to do to ensure victory is grant the CEOs of corporations the right to cast a single vote that binds every employee of the corporation to that vote as well.

The outcome? His Benevolent Eminence, King Mitt, Monarch of the Corporate State of America.

The only problem is, they'd have to beef up border security... to keep us serfs from fleeing.

Wake Up,

There is big difference between maximizing wealth and GREED. 1% owning 42% of the wealth and up from 40% and crybabies who say Obama stands in their way. Keep standing Obama 2012.

If I were a CEO of a major corporation, I too would support the candidate that was pro-business and who didn't go around vilifying me every chance he got. To do otherwise would be self-destructive.

Boy, do you have it all wrong! This has nothing to do with vilification and everything to do with money. Obama has promised to raise their taxes and Romney has promised to lower their taxes; hmmmm...who do I vote for?..../sarc

If your heart is full of selfish desire and greed for self, not caring how much burden you place on everybody else, of course you vote for the one who promises to almost eliminate your burdens. This is what CEO's do best!

They haven't had it bad under Obama and/or the Democrats. For two years running, corporate profits are up over 20% per year; CEO pay went up over 20% one year and over 10% the next year. Poor, poor, mistreated CEO's, who are only doing god's work (lower case "g" for god of greed) and having to actually pay taxes, too. (more /sarc)

I don't think that working class conservatives will be happy when they get the bill for the tax cuts that help to make Mitt and friends, oh so, more wealthy. The bills have to be paid! Somebody has to pay them! Guess who is going to get the invoice!

The game of "10 to 1" is a typical Republican shell game con.

Here's a list of the Koch brothers contributions:

http://www.opensecrets.org/usearch/index.php?q=koch&searchButt_clean.x=0&searchButt_clean.y=0&cx=010677907462955562473%3Anlldkv0jvam&cof=FORID%3A11

And a "homemaker" named Anna Koch has given $93,300 - all to the GOP. Think maybe she's related to one of the Koch brothers?

KevinT - it is Obamas economy, he is the leader, he is responsible for bringing both sides together.

hahahahaha

How exactly do you propose to bring the Tea Party "together" with anyone?

When their one stated guiding principle is that they were elected to defeat Obama?

Jesus himself couldn't bring those guys to the table.

From the article: "Top CEOs donate to Romney over Obama by 4-1 margin"

The title of this article gives the best reason why "the rest of us" should not vote for Romney, "The King of Corporations." The average salary of CEO's is $10,000,000. The average salary for a working citizen is $49,000. With the exceptions of needing to breathe air, water to drink and the need to sleep, our "usual" citizen does not have anything financially in common with the aristocrats in this country.

It is not a surprise that the elites are dumping stashes of cash in Romney's campaign chest.

These gilded folks know that if they do decide to pay taxes, that Mitt will further reduce their tax rates, that he will stamp out regulation of the financial and corporate industries, that he will support their job outsourcing, that he will smash unions, that he will undermine our minimum wage, that he will increase the number of right-wing ideologues in the Supreme Court, and that he will be their "Corporate King in Chief!."

Romney sings that "corporations are people too." He does not deserve to be America's Commander in Chief.

Avoid Mitt's coronation!

Vote a Straight Democratic Ticket.

Obama/Biden 2012!

I guess I'm just a crazy Socialist but I don't consider this anything to be too proud of. CEO's of big corporations are probably the biggest collection of sleaze-balls on the face of the Earth. I wouldn't expect them to support anyone else but Romney - a fellow sleaze-ball of epic proportions.

So all you righties didn't see Mitt totally bomb it overseas?? The man has proven time and time again he does not have what it takes to be president.

He is straight up socially handicapped, he believes in the same BS trickle down crap that Bush used to get us into this mess in the first place. He is a walking embarrassment to the United States, doesn't know jack about foreign policy, has never worked a day in his life, is a war monger, is a bully, lets not forget about Ann's "you people" comment either. This just hammers home the fact that rich people are not normal people, they don't think like normal people, they have no idea what its like to be an average American.

Anyone whom has ever been president has released years and years of tax returns. The only reason Mitt has not it because it will prove he is a greedy white collar criminal. He wont release his campaign contributors either.

Armurray, Are you certain that the medical devices corporations and Pharma corporations are moving overseas NOt due to the more relaxed regulations and investment (transfer) taxes which are directly reflective in the return of the investors? Sorry, American population did not volunteer as human guineapigs. In addition, if one is not an American company, why should we care if its patents are violated vs an American company? If you don't have skin in the game, why should we care?

Of course, guess who are the major poltical contributors? the same players whose $ may be in limbo... Hence we return the orginal point made by the author. Buy the politicians and right now the Republicans already publically stated that they are open to be purchased. If you question me where, then check the quote bo Grover Norquest... we just need a candidate who can hold up a pen to sign what we need him to sign.

Buergermeister, lemme guess. English major in college; right?

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gcooper8 i was guessing he was a limbaugh listener or a minimium wage republican.theyre usually the same thing

25 Walker

But it was fine in 2008 when the corporate money went 2 to one to Demcrats?

Corporations vote for whom they think who's policies will help the economy especially when their polices will help their corporation.

They lost confidence in the Republicans, so they went for Obama. They are very disappointed with the economy under Obama, so they supporting Romney this time.

Romney's career at Bain is grounded in Gordon Gekko values.

DB Akron

But it was fine in 2008 when the corporate money went 2 to one to Demcrats?

DB Akron,

Check your facts.

In 2008, corporations gave to both the Democrats and the Republicans. Obama's 2008 campaign was a unique example of financial donations from "grass-root" support. "The little people" donated to his campaign $5.00, 10.00 or 20.00 monthly. Do not divert attention from the fact, in the hopes of "buying" a presidential election, that CEOs, along with the Koch brothers, are deluging Romney with warehouses of cash.

Corporations vote for whom they think who's policies will help the economy especially when their polices will help their corporation

Corporations give the most money to candidates that will allow their entities: to ignore government ethics regulations, pollute our earth, monopolize markets, ship American jobs overseas and lie to and harm trusting consumers. When these lords and barons are caught "rule-breaking," they do not want to be civilly or criminally penalized. As a presidential candidate, Romney snugly falls into all of these fore mentioned categories.

They lost confidence in the Republicans, so they went for Obama

The Republican gave millions of our citizens a plethora of reasons to lose confidence in their backwards, right-wing philosophies.

They are very disappointed with the economy under Obama, so they supporting Romney this time.

The economic fall that America continues to struggle with is a result of the destructive and selfish policies of the GOP.

Just two salient points to be made to clarify the leftylibdem lunacy:

1. It's only $322K in donations to be compared to the nuclear and hyperbolic responses by the low tolerant left. Ready and willing to go off half cocked at the slightest provocation. In this case, blaring headlines, all too ready to believe by the lefty lemmings.

2. Corporate CEOs know an astute businessman when they see one and know Romney will turn the economy around, lift the economic gloom hanging over ALL of America, and prosper ALL segments of society. Actually, that is real economic equality.

Steve,

Your post would have been accurate if you had said "CEOs know a dirty business man when they see one." At Bain, his tenure demonstrates that he turns companies, upside down. The macro and micro financial policies that Mitt supports caused our "economic gloom." Romney only rub shoulders with the elites. Under a Romney administration all segments of society will not benefit. He will deepen the wealth disparity.

Romney, for a lost America!

Steve D,

Astute Businessman ?

and be Corrupt Politician?

His astute, especially with regard to one's own interests shrewdness.An astute artful,crafty a shrewd politician and shrewd marked by dodging taxes and running away with all loopholes available his advantages ,including how he drafted away from serving his military responsibility to society and nation, hiding himself in France,serving as mormon preacher, not only that,he's hiding, his wealth oversea account by all means too and now you're telling me,he's a practical hardheaded with best twisted intelligence?But as when,he pop up his mouth, even the brits look him more like a " Twit Businessman" "So now he's an astute tenant with Presidential Quality? Gosh He Look more like an CowAss@ to me.

people like Adleson want their country back they wwant no regulations and no interference from the Goverment ... How did Adelson get his Billions .. Drugs .. Child Prostitution ... Money laundered thru his overseas casinos and the banking system .. of c ourse he would be willing to buy the presidency for any one that as Norquest said has five digits and can sign the legislation handed to him.. they have that man in Romney

Okay people, let's not demonize the CEOs... or Romney... or the GOP top money donors... because WE created them! They pride themselves as being great in "business" and throwing all their support at Romney is pure business.

What does a CEO live for? Profits. What is their very favorite thing to do with profits? Keep them for themselves. And what enables them to do so at the least cost? Low top end and capitals gains tax rates. And who will either maintain or even LOWER those rates? Romney. And who wants to raise them? Obama. Any questions?

Okay, so what harm is it to allow the top 1% continue to take money out of business and our economy at such low tax rates? They're not hurting anything, right? They deserve it, right?

Money going to CEO pockets and to the Cayman Islands is money NOT being reinvested into business.

Money going to the Cayman Islands is money REMOVED from our economy.

Money being taxed at this artificially low rate adds to our national debt with no COMMON good.

Low tax rates at the top end KILLs jobs, it DOES NOT create jobs.

Their ability to remove huge sums of money at cheap rates IS THE REASON that CEOs GAINED net worth through this recession while the middle class lost 40%.

Under Clinton, tax rates at the top end were higher. Ever wonder why the middle classes' only gain in net worth in decades was under Clinton? Ever wonder why he was able to provide a balanced budget? Ever wonder why job creation was so high under Clinton? Ever wonder why the economy was at it's best?

Let's end this bull@!$%# and get our economy back into control.

Steve D-514317

2. Corporate CEOs know an astute businessman when they see one and know Romney will turn the economy around, lift the economic gloom hanging over ALL of America, and prosper ALL segments of society. Actually, that is real economic equality.

What, with lower tax rates at the top? What a farce. Read my post #3.117. Low tax rates at the top are the farthest from economic equality that you can get... in fact it causes job LOSS and economic INEQUALITY.

Trickle-me-down economics is not taught in schools for good reason... it doesn't work... it's a made-up political lie. And as long as we encourage all profits to flow to the Cayman Islands, our economy will show gains solely based on consumer demand and NONE due to business reinvestment.

You can deregulate until the cows come home and it won't matter. When the incentive is to REMOVE profits, they will be removed. The rich will be richer. The middle class will continue to lose ground. The poor citizenry will grow in numbers.

The Romney's of the world are our burdens, not our saviors.

The choice is simple: recovery or 4 more years of hell. I am astounded by the liberal spew on this subject that is both false and wrought with hypocrisy. First, can someone please give me proof of all of the illegal evil Romney has put on the American people? Our economy is dying folks and it's been 4 years of the worst economy of our generation; Our Great Depression. America has lost nearly 250,000 small businesses. Big business is hunkered down plowing their tough profit into their mattress waiting for tax and regulatory sanity to return. Americans, big and small business alike (even unions) are ready for a recovery. Obama however, has done everything possible to destroy this country outright. Wake up people. It's not about Romney going in but rather it's about Obama being thrown out.

Of course, I have no doubt that if Romney wins American liberals will kick and scream all the way to the bank with their paychecks given to them by the very corporations that they hate so much. It's just sad.

LMarcT - Your diatribes on the American CEO could not be more wrong. All I can tell you is that I hope you leave America if Romney wins.

LMarcT

SmallBizGirl speaks for all of us who feel that if Romney wins, all left leaning people should be required to leave America. After all, since they only represent 25-30 % of the population, who will miss them anyway. That way all that will be left in America are people who believe that God created the earth in 6 days and that the founders of the US Constitution kept slavery on the books because they knew that would decreas the amount of suffering African Americans will go through for the first 300 years that they will be living in this country. And, of course, every citizen will be required to repeat the pledge of allegiance three times per day, but we will not offer any free education or health care. If people want to be eduacted or healthy, LET THEM PAY FOR IT- I certainly don't want to pay for someone else since I worked so hard and built all that myself.

LMarcT- If you all leave, there will be less people who don't think like us and we will all be so happy!

I want my county back- America, Love it or leave it !

pjam,

How many fillibusters have the Senate Repulicans done since 2008?

Brad - Not enough.

Rick Perry's got it going in Texas........they have jobs there. None of them over minimum wage.

It's the Republicans wet dream. They did tort reform in Texas too, but it didn't bring down health care costs. Too bad they have the lowest number of insured people there, oops, my bad, that's a good thing for Republicans.

Ruken - Wow, such substance and meaningfulness, your fellow Dems must be impressed.

Too bad I'm conservative (not Republican though). When the GOP can get its head on straight and actually grasp the meaning of fiscal conservatism, let me know.

pjamo9 Not enough. Than you wonder why the economy is in the crapper. Your party has done nothing to help. Passing one sided bills is not way to get things done. Its the republicans who said we'll make this President a one term President. Than they are doing it on the backs of the American People.

Just remember the last president who ran 2 Savings and loans into the ground. Not too mention, bankrupting an oil company looking for oil in Texas.

Fiscal conservatism.... like when the pentagon states it doesnt need Abrams tanks anymore, politicans state differently.

Pjam is a cop out when tested to provide fact. It doesn't know, and doesn't have the ability to find out the facts. Better, to go with that 'feeling' then letting the facts present themselves.

Can anyone provide data that links Obama directly to the poor economy? His title is not economist in chief. Any facts might be nice, since I already assume your broad and largely baseless comments are derived from what was said on Fox News this morning. Many of you say he is ruining our economy. How is he doing this? By not giving rich people more tax breaks when they pout and say they are deserving? Because rush or beck said it?

Eric..."They did tort reform in Texas too, but it didn't bring down health care costs."

Not to the consumer anyway. But the clinic I visit was instituting a bunch of new programs, including wellness programs, and adding on to the building shortly after tort reform was enacted. Doing so with the money they saved not having to pay incredible insurance premiums and making attorneys rich.

If you ran a company why would you want the economy to continue to be dismantled by Obama

The economy is stumbling because the GOP has engaged in a deliberate strategy to sabotage it in order to shorten Obama's term of influence.

The economy is failing because the GOP is fighting for it to fail.

@pjam09

Why do you hate America?

yea a job at mac donald's is about all one could hope for in this terrible obama economy.

@mcpaddywack

Why do you hate America?

The president (weather democrat or republican) does not make or break the economy. They can influence it by the policies they put in place. Ultimatly it has to come down to each individual. So who do you want to vote for? The one that thinks that government should control everything in your life or the one that has been successful and thinks that you can be too.

Eric

None of them over minimum wage

WRONG!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2763197/posts

550,000 of the over 700,000 new jobs are between the minimum wage and twice the minimum wage.

@Ruken - Amen to that. I think republicans are self serving a-holes these days and democrats have no balls. I wish the repubs would come back to earth a little and be productive instead of just opposing the dems. I wish also the dems would grow a sack and come back to earth a little.

We really need a more moderate crowd in there. Truth is that both parties completely blow. I'd consider myself a libertarian I guess. I don't care if we don't get as many services from the government (within reason) but I want the government out of my business (no moral values or religious legislation). I don't want to see people discriminated against and I don't want any kind of religion in the government. I think most americans would want that setup but both sides are too stupid to figure that out.

Many of us are capable of forming cogent ideas without the benefit of Rush or Fox News, and throwing around this kind of bluster contributes nothing to the discussion.

As to your challenge to link Obama to the poor economy, one needs only to look at his policies on regulation and taxation which cause business to keep money on the sidelines. Oh, and don't forget the disastrous consequences of Obamacare. Those of us in business are so uncertain about where this country is going (i.e. where Obama intends to lead us) that we are afraid to commit resources which may be for nought when Obama gets done.

And don't get your knickers in a knot about Obamacare. Reform is needed, but this 2,670 page horror story isn't it.

Why wouldn't they support Romney, he wants to eliminate their tax burdens, eliminate regulations and responsibility and make it harder for the bottom 70% of working people to amass any wealth beyond a 401K. He is their guy. Romney is pro- the .1%.

@thisbusymonster - Not liking something about this country is exactly what this country is about. The whole idea is that if you don't like something about it, fix it. That's contrary to what people say these days which is "if you don't like it, leave it". Anyway, everyone should learn that lesson and stop calling each other nazi's or america haters. That's just counter productive and stupid.

There was a little known meeting about 6 weeks ago between a large number of corporate executives from all branches of business...their conclusion: The current administration does not have the ability to pull the country out of the current economic depression.....these are a smart bunch of people...they also concluded they will hold off on hiring/expansions until this administration is no longer in office....

You have any source or recording? A published paper? Was this conspiracy theorist b.s. or was it actually legitimate? Don't keep us in suspense.

@Jay - just because you're ignorant about obamacare doesn't mean it's a bad idea. It's really amazing, the populace pretty much elected obama to reform medical insurance because they weren't operating ethically. They were denying anyone for any possible reason they could (and still do). I just can't imagine how everyone became so anti-health care reform all of the sudden after voting it in. I say we need it. They can no longer deny due to pre existing condition - awesome. They have to cover kids until they're old enough to work - great. Who would think this is a bad idea? Although, I think they would've been more productive to look at what doctors and hospitals charge, though. Their bills are absolutely bat@!$%# crazy. They could look at a rash and charge you a thousand bucks just to give you a topical cream. I think that's the actual cause of the problem and they probably should have started there but getting insurance to play ball fairly is a start.

They're also holding off bringing home the profits from the businesses they moved over seas until the republicans have fulfilled their promises to wipe out the taxations on those profits as well. Sony alone is with holding more than 65 billion in profits they made in offshore accounts until the republicans fulfill the promises being made to capture the multi million dollar donations they are receiving. Now is the time to teach these anti-americans a strong lesson and simply triple the taxes on those offshore profits they made by selling out america to foreign investers. Bite Mitt right where it will hurt him the most, his bank accounts. Right now these crooks want to wipe out the tax stimulus on middle and lower class america while not just making their corporate exemtions and deductions permanent, but lowering their own tax rates at the same time they are attempting to screw working america. Then these tealibanners have the gumption to call liberals opportunists and charge them with promoting class warfare when they already have made their own pre emptive strikes at middle class america.

nolan-4517032

"We really need a more moderate crowd in there."

Bingo - you said it Nolan!

We've experienced the wealthiest getting richer and the poor getting poorer at the hands of the 1%. The Wall Street money is going to Romney because they know he's one of them--a thief.

Obama-Biden 2012

Agree sandtrich, CEO"S are making record profits like they never had before, someone mentioned CEO pay of 5mil. comments ago, that is laughable try 30,40,50,60,70mil. Places like Walmart, Winco, where people go for neccessities, their profits from Revenue has risen every year, It is Greed that is keeping the economy down, one more dollar to the CEO and sharelholders is what it is about, whether they make it in pricing up everything, and making worse products or finding those loopholes with Santa's picture on it, or laying off a worker and asking the other worker to do the job of two employees with no more pay! It is time for the middle class to get greedy and show them a taste of their own medicine!

Obama offered to cut spending on social programs by 2 trillion if republicans accepted letting some oil company corporate welfare subsidies expire, end subsidies for gentlemen farmers who never farmed and a small increase on the wealthy, republicans refused. Romney's plan would increase military spending by 260 billion a year paid for with borrowed China dollars and he's considered the fiscal conservative? Only in America.

In 1970 the average CEO made around 24 times the average worker today with stock options and benefits it's approaching 500 times. Romney thinks them paying 14.5% like him is too much.

For those of you that think the two parties should work together in the house and senate for the good of the country you are just kidding yourselves. How in the world can that be done when the Republicans signed an agreement not in anyway shape or form raise taxes on the wealthy. THEY WILL NOT RAISE TAXES ON THE WEALTHY. So from this point there is no movement in the house. Only one solution is to get rid of the Republicans in the house and senate. I dare all of you to get them to agree to this one provision that anyone that makes over $ 250.000 per year will pay higher taxes. If you get them to agree to this the gridlock is over.

VOTE TO DUMP THE REPUBLICANS SO AMERICA CAN MOVE FORWARD.

Larry, Are you talking capital gains or wages? I doubt you know the difference!! One thing is that if capital gains go up on the rich, they will increase for everyone, even the working person who scrimped their whole life. Why in the hell do people think that giving Washington more taxes will make their life better at all? There is no guarantee it will ever come back to the freeloaders! I would rather give a one million dollar check to a charity or some stranger on the street than to give one dime to Washington. At least the charity will do something worthwhile with it! So what if the rich write it off? What the hell makes it anyone's business?

For the many who are capable of cogent ideas then tell me what would your business be like if we had a depression instead of a recession? That's what we were facing. No help from Republicans to try and save the economy because they didn't want Obama to succeed.

His policies and regulations have lead to over two years of positive job growth and particularly in the manufacturing sector. I too am in business and I sell businesses for a living. The people who would complain about Obamacare or ACA as it's is named don't know what benefits they are getting and in turn don't know how much it will benefit their particular business. When they do; most have found their business will be better off. Plus why is someone using the excuse that something that won't be enacted until 2014 is causing them not to make decisions now?

Truth be told the reason business are not hiring is because they don't have to, plain and simple. When there is enough demand that they will not be able to keep up with the demand then they will have to hire more people. When they hire they will hire for as cheaply as they can get away with it. Then when their employees can't afford to buy whatever they make they can say too bad I'm moving your job to China! Now go try and find another job or make it two since I pay you so little!

Flower: Apparently i know more than you. It's called carried interest and is taxed at capital gains rates of 15%. If you run a venture capital or hedge fund and invest other peoples money and get a 20% cut on all profits it's taxed as carried interest. Say you run a hedge fund and make 10 billion profit on your investors money. You get 2 billion and it's taxed as carried interest rate of 15% even though it's clearly nothing but a commission any other profession would pay 35% on. No risk because it's not your money . Democrats have tried 3 times to remove this gift for people like Romney and had republicans vote it down each time.

hs321 Eric..."They did tort reform in Texas too, but it didn't bring down health care costs."

Not to the consumer anyway. But the clinic I visit was instituting a bunch of new programs, including wellness programs, and adding on to the building shortly after tort reform was enacted. Doing so with the money they saved not having to pay incredible insurance premiums and making attorneys rich.

Ever consider sharing a little health coverage for the 1 in 4 Texans who don't have any? Before you pat yourself on the back for gettin' a "bunch of new wellness programs"....

Mitzi Romney is getting more CEO action than a porn star at a Charlie Sheen slumber party? Since when is that news?

"Hi, Mitzi, can we collapse more companies, ship more jobs overseas, and dump out of more pay, health, and safety regulations? Pump poison into the air, soil, and water, while the poor suckers who vote for you thank their abundantly indifferent God for politicians who pray?"

Of course they don't care what happens to life on the ground in the U. S. Mitzi's money and theirs lives elsewhere, but remember, kids, a nation gets the leadership that it deserves.

Melissa,

You have hit the nail on the head and sunk it in one stroke!

There is this thing called Prosperity Theology. Even though Romney is a Mormon, he/they espouse the principle of this religious approach while still not having Jesus as their saviour. Kenneth Copelands ministry is widely held as the model of prosperity theology.

Prosperity religion: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosperity_theology

The domionists are also part of this movement in that it is their goal to "gain dominion" over the earth (and therefore, the people on the earth) by controlling the "seven mountains" of culture.

FROM: www.reclaim7mountains.com/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=41538&columnid=4347

"God’s purpose for humanity was to bless a people so that they could possess and bless the earth.”

(1) God’s covenant people taking dominion of the earth has been the main theme of every covenant that God has ever made with mankind.The New Covenant for the church is no different with its expectation of dominion by making disciples of all nations.

(2) The Dominion Process is two-fold.First, human beings are blessed by God.Secondly, these blessed human beings are given a mandate to take dominion of the earth for the purpose of blessing it.

(3) The first advent of Christ was for the purpose of creating a blessed seed upon the earth - the church.The second coming of Jesus will take place after this blessed seed has completed the Dominion Process upon the earth by making disciples of all nations.

FROM: First amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Of course they wouldn't, the liberal media denies the political clout unions carry in elections.

Romney will still be outspent in this election considering all of the liberal super pac's that have sprouted.

It's Romney pandering overseas that makes me sick. Most un-transparent Presidential candidate ever !

Pandering, Eric? When Obama did the same thing in Europe and Asia, liberals hailed it as a new leaf in foreign policy and a more connected America! Transparency? Obama has been a painfully un-transparent president despite his campaign promises. You're criticizing Romney (perhaps fairly, as I agree that he should release his tax returns, if not just the silence the opposition) but ignoring that Obama is guilty of the same thing.

How is Obama anti business? Because of the health care law? Seriously, what has he done that thwarts business? Oh right, he didn't just lower their tax rates to zero. There are 6-10 major factors outside the US that directly affect our economy. Do you think Obama controls those factors? Rush might tell you yes, but if you actually use your brain you will realize that our economy will forever be affected (greatly sometimes) by outside forces. But, if you have never left the great state of Arkansas, how could you ever consider such an abstract concept. You couldn't.

LOL Eric! Romney is just trying to get his Nobel Peace Prize like Obama did.

The liberal media is the most powerful and wealthy super PAC for 0bama.

Romney has to buy ad time to highlight his successes and refute accusation while 0bama has a chorus of yellow hack journalists with thrills up their legs and tents in their pants to do his bidding.

To..elliot """"

Well thank god for the liberal media can you imagine what nonsense you'd get from a conservative media ..

read,

I ask that question every day somewhere and am still waiting for an answer that holds up to scrutiny. Haven't gotten one yet.

The liberal media is the most powerful and wealthy super PAC for 0bama.

Wow. Get out of Mom's basement quick. The kool-aid down there is poisoning your brain.

Sadly, the empty suite is very transparent. All you really have to do is read some real facts, listen to his spoke statements. He is not worried about anything but bringing the taxes down for top earners and raising it for the middle, and just doesn't care about the bottom.

Problem with GOP is they said they will create "JOBS, JOBS AND MORE JOBS". They lied big time, in the 2 years, they have introduced more bills about women's rights, homosexual and religious bills than anything.

Jobs bill? Always have "Keystone pipeline" attached to it at the end.

Then why are supporting Romney? His policies will destroy America just as GWB policies came close to destroying America. All the recent Republician administrations have been complete unmitigated failures.

Romney has to buy ad time to highlight his successes

I don't know about you, but winning a couple of blue ribbons in the dressage ring are not exactly what I look for as qualifications for a President. Neither is an outstanding record in outsourcing jobs.

no problem with candidate Romney visiting foreign countries. But be careful; at this rate, they are going to start to think that we must all be out of touch and insensitive.

He should just smile and wave; every time he opens his mouth something stupid escapes.

"People who support Mitt Romney do so because they support his pro-growth, pro-jobs agenda for the country," Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said. Any Romney supporters want to relate to everyone else exactly WHAT those plans are, since Willard has NO concrete plans except for playing in that ever moving sandbox of ideas?

"To that end, some of Obama’s 2008 CEO donors have, so far, declined to cut a check for him this cycle. ..

There are some executives who switched sides, too."

And the Liberals want to pretend that they never did despite reality.

Not CEO's, but :

Wall Street - Check ( in fairness, both cater to wall street)

Hollywood limo liberals - Check

Public Sector unions - Check

The uneducated populace - Check

You just got the last one wrong brendan. Democrats in the populace are far from uneducated. They at least know not to go to England and criticize the Olympics.

democrats may be educated but that doesn't make them intelligent...

From what discrete hypothesis, do you formulate your criterion for adjudication of that unusual comment?

Eric, easy. Democrats advocate restributive policies of taxing wealthy to provide for the needy. Democrats advocate for restribution of wealth in the form of farm subsidies, effectively paying farms to not farm.

Simple question, do you belive that americans should have the right to protection against groups of people staking claim to what is rightfully not theirs?

If you answer yes, you believe in property law and contract law, if you don't agree than you advocate for forceful restribution policies effectively stealing private property.

Try to keep up mate.

Brendan, Farm subsidies are nearly all in red states. You know what that means? GOP senators/Reps are effectively keeping them in place even thought they are destructive to the rest of the country. Let me re state, Republicans Senators/Reps are keeping SUBSIDIES" in place. That in effect means that socialism is taking place in states that are controlled by the GOP. Isn't that contradictory to you free market beliefs?

Lastly, please send me the name of any Democrat that has stated they are for the redistribution of wealth? Progressives want equality and since the GOP does not know what that means, someone needs to fight for the little guy. And please, save us the propaganda about how all democrats want hand outs.

To..brendan """

Yet corporate welfare is tolerated defended and encouraged

Brendan,

Since Blue states are better educated than red states, maybe you ought to realize that first off, dumb people are not writing political checks, but more importantly, the southern strategies effectiveness is based on people's inability to think critically and make decisions based on an array (not one source) of sources. Look at where the vast majority of wealth and higher education (ivy league, Stanford etc) lies in this country............on the coasts.

Try and keep up mate

Speaking for which side is intelligent. All I hear from the right is "common sense" this and "common sense" that, yet they really don't have any answers on the table to fix anything. Maybe we need someone with uncommon sense, to see the bigger picture and work toward that end.

Why is the right always afraid of smart/educated people, and choose to elect those that can't articulate themselves well, or just plan mentally handicaped.

Romney proposes cutting the top tax rate from 35% to 25% clearly what CEO making 40 million or more wouldn't want a 4+ million dollar tax cut? That tax cut is projected to cost 5 trillion in revenue over 10 years or 500 billion a year. Romney claims he'd pay for it by eliminating "loopholes" like the employer health plan tax exemption. What stuns me is why would middle class republicans receiving health insurance at work vote to elect a guy who wants to tax their health insurance? How much do think taxing the 10-15,000 a year on a family health plan would raise your taxes at 20% or so? By my math that's 2,000 to 3,000 a year to cut CEO's tax bill.

People complain about those not paying taxes and the deficit but ignore the possibility Romney paid no taxes many years or that Romneys plan that does cut 120 billion from social programs but raises military spending 260 billion hardly deals with the deficit. With Romneys lowering the rate on the rich who do you think will pay for that extra 140 billion a year for more military adventures?

Obama offered to match 2 trillion in cuts to social programs if republicans accepted 2 trillion in revenue by slightly increasing taxes on the rich and eliminating some corporate subsidies and they refused. Obama's 200 billion a year in cuts clearly would have exceeded Romney's 120 so it's hard to blame Obama because republicans won't compromise.

ReadBetweenthelines,

I never said republicans get the pass on farm subsidies. I simply asked a question that should expose the baseline thinking of a liberal or conservative. It certainly is against my free market beliefs, I am against all farm subsidies.

Anytime progressives bring up equality, the only way they try to attempt to correct inequality is through redistrbutive policies. They don't try to "lift all ships" like past conservatives have done. They want to pin the blame for unequality on people of wealth, effectively stealing wealth from them through taxation to give to the less privaledged. This is un-american.

Remeber, free market thinkers advocate equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Progressives preach equal outcome.

Im a registered independent and A Ron paul supporter, don't try partisan politics with me, thanks.

Try to keep up mate :D

Amunaka-

No, corporate welfare at the expense of tax paying citizens is also wrong. I do not advocate handouts to corporations.

I can put an end to this right now. Most people in office right now are worthless regardless of side. We have real problems yet they're willing to talk about whether abortion should be legal or any other ridiculous thing that they spend way too much time arguing about. Democrats are generally the less sucky choice for the non-religiously crazy or non-filthy rich.

sorry Brendan-4 .... the republican party has the market cornered on ignorant constituents.

Nice try though.

The average democrat thought Obama would pay their mortgage and utility bills after the 2008 election. No that is not educated, that is just plain gullible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

I fail to see how requiring those at the top to pay the same rate as those in the middle is redistibutive. When Reagan was elected he lowered the top rate from 70% to 39%. Now Romney want's to lower it to 25%. We went from the worlds greatest industrial producer under Reagan to a consumer base for China today hardly a selling point for trickle down. When Reagan was elected there were 10's of millions of manufacturing jobs that paid 4 to 5 times minimum wage to start. Now we're a "service" economy that pays minimum wage for unskilled labor.

KevinT: I'm sure only democrats fell for it. Clearly those gun totin bible thumpers that are the heart of the republican base would never fall for something like that.

hey shady.....there you are...another lib playing the race card because there is nothing to defend about the clown obama.....how pathetic....ROMNEY IN NOVEMBER!!!

Shady,

Sorry, all klan meetings have been cancelled until further notice. We are still mourning the loss of one of our finest, Robert Byrd.

Mcpaddywack.....there you are.....another tea bagger that probably thinks Fox news is a fine news outlet.....how pathetic......OBAMA IN NOVEMBER!!!!

Road Warrior - how will you and your kin folk keep in touch now....

Shady - Shouldn't you be at a La Raza rally?

pjam - shouldn't you be at planned parenthood?

Contempt - shouldn't you be at remedial English classes?

Shady,

Obama now wants to cut the corporate tax rate to 28%. About three and a half years too late, don't you think? Funny how all Democrats pretend to be pro-business when they want votes.

Found your spelling error I see....

Road Warrior - funny thing is, we didn't build that.....