TAMPA, Fla. -- It’s government, “not cultures” that define the difference between Israelis and Palestinians. That’s according to Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who appeared to differ with presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney as he tried to defend him.
“I am sure that Gov. Romney was not talking about difference in cultures, or difference in anybody superior or inferior,” said McCain, a chief Romney foreign policy surrogate, today during a news conference after an event here with Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC). “What I’m sure Gov. Romney was talking was that the Israeli economy has grown and prospered in a dramatic fashion. And unfortunately, the Palestinians have not had that same economic development.
“And that goes to the leadership of the Palestinians. Everybody knows that Yasser Arafat was corrupt. And we also know that the Palestinian people have not been blessed with the kind of government that has lower regulations, less taxes, entrepreneurship, which have caused the Israeli economy to be one of the world’s most successful. It has nothing to do with cultures. It has nothing to do with superiority or inferiority. But facts of the booming Israeli economy has to do with the kind of government that the Israeli people have freely and democratically elected which has given them a very prosperous country.”
McCain noted he had not seen or heard Romney’s remarks, but that didn’t stop him from defending what Romney meant.
“I’m sure I know what he was saying, though,” McCain continued. “And what he was saying, though, is that the Israelis have had a government with less regulation, lower taxes, which has allowed them to have a strong and prosperous economy. Unfortunately, when you go over to many of the Palestinian areas, you do not see that same kind of economic development. Governments matter.”
Yesterday at a fundraiser in Israel, Romney said:
“[A]as you come here and you see the GDP per capita for instance in Israel which is about 21,000 dollars and you compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority which is more like 10,000 dollars per capita you notice a dramatic, stark difference in economic vitality.”
Then paraphrasing a book by a Harvard professor called, “The Wealth and Poverty of Nations,” he added:
“[I]f you could learn anything from the economic history of the world it’s this: culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference. And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things.”
The Associated Press picked up on the comments and noted: “Romney said some economic histories have theorized that ‘culture makes all the difference’.” And that “Palestinian reaction to Romney was swift and pointed.”
It quoted Saeb Erekat, a senior aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who said: "It is a racist statement and this man doesn't realize that the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation.”
And AP added:
“While speaking to U.S. audiences, Romney often highlights culture as a key to economic success and emphasizes the power of the American entrepreneurial spirit compared to the values of other countries. But his decision to highlight cultural differences in a region where such differences have helped fuel violence for generations raises new questions about the former businessman's diplomacy skills.”
The Romney campaign called for a correction from the AP, because of "his remarks being grossly mischaracterized," it claimed.
The campaign also passed around the broader context of his speech – and highlighted that he had made similar remarks in Chicago in March while talking about other countries.
But that context does not appear to change the meaning of what Romney was saying. And he certainly did not make the case that government was a reason for the differences. (That context, sent by the campaign, is copied at the end of this post in full.)
*** UPDATE: NBC's Garrett Haake, traveling with the campaign, reports from Gdansk, Poland, that senior Romney campaign strategist Stuart Stevens told reporters he takes issue with the story, calling it "completely manufactured," "sloppy," and even "invented."
He said the quote from Romney "revolves around an observation the governor has made in his book" and "mentioned in big speeches." The story, he claims, "never should have been written, was not handled responsibly and the Romney campaign was never called for comment. The economic situations for prosperity are interesting to study and important. "
He added that the comments were "not in any way an attempt to slight the Palestinians, and everyone knows that." And he even goes so far as to say: "It is regrettable whenever a story is handled improperly and I think we all agree on that." ***
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McCain also said he agreed with Romney that the American embassy in Israel should be moved to Jerusalem.
“Absolutely. I agree that the embassy should be moved to Jerusalem, and I think that those who are strong supporters of Israel should take note that the President of the United States has failed to take a position on the embassy location,” McCain said. “And it should be in Jerusalem and that has been the subject of numerous resolutions by the United States Congress over the years.”
The American embassy – and every other country's in the world – is currently located in Tel Aviv. At the heart of the long-running peace process dispute between Israelis and Palestinians is where a Palestinian capital would be. Palestinians would like it to be centered in East Jerusalem.
Here are the remarks, passed along by the Romney campaign:
Gov. Romney: “I was thinking this morning as I prepared to come into this room of a discussion I had across the country in the United States about my perceptions about differences between countries. And as you come here and you see the GDP per capita for instance in Israel which is about 21,000 dollars and you compare that with the GDP per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority which is more like 10,000 dollars per capita you notice a dramatic, stark difference in economic vitality. And that is also between other countries that are near or next to each other. Chile and Ecuador, Mexico and the United States. I noted that part of my interest when I used to be in the world of business is I would travel to different countries was to understand why there were such enormous disparities in the economic success of various countries. I read a number of books on the topic. One, that is widely acclaimed, is by someone named Jared Diamond called ‘Guns, Germs and Steel,’ which basically says the physical characteristics of the land account for the differences in the success of the people that live there. There is iron ore on the land and so forth. And you look at Israel and you say you have a hard time suggesting that all of the natural resources on the land could account for all the accomplishment of the people here. And likewise other nations that are next door to each other have very similar, in some cases, geographic elements. But then there was a book written by a former Harvard professor named ‘The Wealth and Poverty of Nations.’ And in this book Dr. Landes describes differences that have existed—particularly among the great civilizations that grew and why they grew and why they became great and those that declined and why they declined. And after about 500 pages of this lifelong analysis—this had been his study for his entire life—and he’s in his early 70s at this point, he says this, he says, if you could learn anything from the economic history of the world it’s this: culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference. And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things. One, I recognize the hand of providence in selecting this place. I’m told in a Sunday school class I attended— I think my son Tagg was teaching the class. He’s not here. I look around to see. Of course he’s not here. He was in London. He taught a class in which he was describing the concern on the part of some of the Jews that left Egypt to come to the promised land, that in the promised land was down the River Nile, that would provide the essential water they had enjoyed in Egypt. They came here recognizing that they must be relied upon, themselves and the arm of God to provide rain from the sky. And this therefore represented a sign of faith and a show of faith to come here. That this is a people that has long recognized the purpose in this place and in their lives that is greater than themselves and their own particular interests, but a purpose of accomplishment and caring and building and serving. There’s also something very unusual about the people of this place. And Dan Senor-- And Dan, I saw him this morning, I don’t know where he is, he’s probably out twisting someone’s arm—There’s Dan Senor, co-author of ‘Start-up Nation,’ described-- If you haven’t read the book, you really should-- Described why it is Israel is the leading nation for start-ups in the world. And why businesses one after the other tend to start up in this place. And he goes through some of the cultural elements that have led Israel to become a nation that has begun so many businesses and so many enterprises and that is becomes so successful.” (Mitt Romney, Remarks at Fundraiser, Israel, 7/30/12)
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Gov. Romney: “Now as you know, this November we face a -- an important decision. Our choice will be not just one of party and personality. This election is going to be about principle. Our economic freedom will be on the ballot. And I intend to offer the American people a choice. I spent 25 years in business, by the way as you probably know. My business used to take me to different parts of the world and -- and I was often struck by enormous differences between different nations that in many cases were living right next door to each other. I -- I was interested in the differences in their prosperity and how it was that nations so close to each other in terms of geography, could be so different in terms of prosperity. I mean look at Mexico and the United States, Israel and Egypt, Chile and Ecuador. And -- and I read a number of books that purported to explain the differences. One of them by Jared Diamond called "Guns, Germs and Steel", argued that the difference was due largely to the minerals in the ground and the -- the physical characteristics, natural resources associated with different countries. But that didn't explain it all, just a part. And then I happened to read a book by Professor David Landes called, "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations." And in that he -- he traces the history of all the great civilizations on the earth. Those that have come and gone. And after about 500 pages of scholarly analysis he concludes with -- with this observation. He says, "If we learn anything from the economic -- the history of economic development it is this, culture makes all the difference." Culture makes all the difference. Culture. What is it about America's culture that's made us the greatest economic power in the history of the earth? And of course there are a lot of things that come to mind. Our work ethic. Our appreciation for -- for education. The -- the willingness of Americans to take risk. Our commitment to honor contract oath, our family devotion. Our -- our commitment to purpose greater than ourselves. Our patriotism.” (Mitt Romney, Remarks, Chicago, IL, 3/19/12)


"Mr. President, meet the clown of clowns Mitt Romney...clown, meet the president. Now this time, you freakin' clown, keep your idiotic thoughts to yourself and your big mouth SHUT." Knock 'em dead in Poland Mitt!
Romney just needed some time to learn how to not insult his potential supporters. I'm sure he will do much better in Poland.
Romney 2012
FUD-romney's 3-country World Tour is now known as the PANDER EXPRESS! All Aboard!
The Poles will be out to greet Romney.[and Romney certainly knows what to do with a pole!]
Mr. Romney *almost* got out of Israel without another gaffe.
It's true though. How curious of people who subsists on charity of others.
McCain would have made a much better president than Obama... which ain't saying much. Romney will make an excellent president... a much better president than McCain.
The "Palestinians" chose to spend their time and effort making war on Israel. If, they spent the same time and effort at making a prosperous peace, they would be wealthy. Unfortunately, the "Palestinians" are not psychologically prepared for peace; they will continue to live in spiritual and material poverty.
Martha-2024651 - The "Palestinians" chose to spend their time and effort making war on Israel. If, they spent the same time and effort at making a prosperous peace, they would be wealthy. Unfortunately, the "Palestinians" are not psychologically prepared for peace; they will continue to live in spiritual and material poverty.
LADY (term used loosely) you're a nut case!!
What a well reasoned and articulate response... NOT.
@Martha
It's more of a response than that tripe you "contributed" deserved.
WE THE PEOPLE are the employers of the President of the United States.
HE works for US.
If WE THE PEOPLE ask FUD-romney to disclose his off shore financial dealings then he has to comply or not seek that job.
If WE THE PEOPLE ask to see FUD-romney's tax returns as other Presidential candidates have shown before him then he has to comply or not seek the job.
If WE THE PEOPLE want a full accounting of FUD-romney's resume at his former "employer" Bain then he has to give that full accounting or not seek the job.
FUD-romney acts as if he's hiring WE THE PEOPLE as his employees. He acts like he's doing US a favor by seeking the job!
Since when does a person acting the way FUD-romney even get a job of lesser importance? So why would WE THE PEOPLE give this arrogant, self-important man the job he seeks? (These are rhetorical questions. No need for right wingnuts to respond. We KNOW how you all think, or don't).
Zardoz--You apparently didn't hear the Romney response the other night. "You people" aren't going to see any more tax returns. It would be beneath him to tell the American people about his finances.
Old Vet-462462 - actually I did. But thanks for helping make the point.
So an Old Vet of? Me, US Navy, tail end of Nam.
Nasty Pelosi is 2nd in line to succeed the president... she refuses to release ANY tax return. What corruption is she hiding?
She isn't running for President. If she was I would expect the same from her.
You fail in your point. You fail in defending Robme. You fail. Period.
Martha - All members of Congress release their income - if you weren't so blind or uninformed you could go into a web site and see what the members of Congress release as to their incomes
Plus the reason that McCain only released two years of his Income Taxes is because all the rest is on a web sight of his finances while he served in Congress
Martha - get informed or get out of here - you are just one of the minions that know nothing or don't care to - tell me which
I know where to look why don't you?
Look up Michelle Bachman and you will find her farm subsidies - go further and you will find what the State of Minnesota paid her for her foster children
It's all there all you have to do is look - before you post
Mitt Romney: Bush League
The funniest thing about this whole episode is that they released the entire speech as if that made what he said better...like a delusional religious rant and doubling down on the racist remarks is "better" than the little bit that was accurately reported previously...
Only a Republican candidate could manage to insult both Jews and Palistinians with the same stupid remark--the first with stereotypes about their wealth and money practices and the second by blaming their oppressed economy on cultural inferiority.
Don't think he can screw up Poland, they're still mad that Obama didn't produce Bush's promised fantasy of a missile "shield" against Russia. (Does Russia actually want Poland at this point?) Still, if anybody could mess up a sure thing, it's Mitt. Mitt Happens, you know (hey, it's his motto, no mine).
mdmtnwmn - I guess you missed Rachel Maddow tonight - when Willard landed in Poland there where thousands of people with a 30 foot banner that said Poland for R Paul
Why didn't all of the other news outlets report this - What a hoot - as much as I think Ron Paul is an idiot - even my husband who is half Polish thought this was funny
What Romney doesn't get, and what a lot of people don't get, is that there may not be any solutions to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Each side believes absolutely that they are entitled to the land. It might have been possible, fifty years ago, to go in and reach a compromise that would have worked for both sides, but the atrocities committed by both sides, the failure of the other Arab states to attempt to alleviate the dire conditions which the Palestinians endure, and the ongoing hate-mongering, has conspired to create an environment which is unlikely to achieve any kind of lasting peace. The time for the US to get involved was when Israel was first forming. If we had acted as a refereee in the beginning, we might have made a difference. Now, the lines of hatred and intolerance have been cemented into place.
Palestinians live in poverty. There are few jobs. The only thing they have to hang onto is their hatred of Israel, which is carefully nurtured by the other Arab states. If you have nothing else to look forward to, and little else to do, you focus on eliminating your perceived enemy, the entity standing between you and a brighter future.
The Palestinians aren't unique. In this country, we are being carefully instructed in hating blacks, illegal aliens, liberals, homosexuals, and anyone in need of government assistance. Because hating someone else and blaming someone else means that you are not at fault for your own failures. It is the fault of the food stamp receivers and the Mexicans and the blacks, and . . . and . . .
The bosses want you to hate these scapegoats they have created. It keeps you from noticing who the enemies really are. Social welfare programs cost $59 billion per year. Corporate subsidies cost $92 billion per year. Who is really sucking at the public trough?
nice post
Gaza is an oasis on the beautiful Mediterranean Sea. If the "Palestinians" gave up their futile war on Israel, and recognized Israel's right to exist, they could become a resort destination for Europe and the Middle East... the beaches could be lined with resorts, inland there could be restaurants and shops, the fields could be seeded, the people could live in peace and prosperity. But that isn't what they want... they want to send rockets into Israel trying to kill innocent people... the Israelis defend themselves by counter battery fire and an embargo on war material into Gaza. If Palestinians made peace instead of war they wouldn't have to live like barbaric savages.
Martha, noteworthy that you are calling people of color barbaric savages. Says a lot about you.
Martha - You have no idea what you are talking about - - What can I say but this is not Miami
The Jews - have taken the Palistinian land and have blocked them from all trade - and livelihood
So lady - go and learn - before you spout your Alice in Wonderland
The Zionists are hard core extremists - just like your tea party and have prevented any solution
A "resort destination"???!!!
LMAO,lady you are either hopelessly deranged,hopelessly stupid or Sarah Palin's Newsvine ID (which would actually make you all three come to think of it...).
A "resort destination".
Yeah,I guess the Israelis will trip all over themselves in relaxing the stranglehold they have on the Palestinian's borders to allow that to happen,right?
You do know they routinely attack aid ships that try to help the Palestinian's,yes?
Never mind,we all already know that you don't as that would upset the 24/7 farcical movie loop that must run in your dimwitted head nonstop.
Martha, You are most correct. Gaza is a gold mine for Palestine. The possibilities for prosperity are endless in Gaza and talk about a geo-politically powerful piece of RE in the ME. But I believe Israel still owns it and is just using it as a kind of prisoner camp for outlaws (correct me if I am wrong)
What's that on your chin Mitt? Dab, dab, there you go.
Apparently occupation is not a word in ol John Boy's vocabulary.
What the hell is McCain talking about? Of course the Israeli culture is better than the Palestinian culture of corruption and terror. THAT cultural difference is the reason that Palestinians have economic sanctions on them that keeps them impoverished and without a homeland. My comment to them would be, "You grew it, you chew it!"
As for you, McCain. Keep your mouth shut. If you care anything about the future of your country, you wouldn't do or say anything that Obama might use to further increase his chances of reelection!
The truth is, this isn't about cultural differences, it's about religious differences.
Why would any "God" create so many diverse cultures and races and them teach them all different things? Why would he pit part of his creation against other parts of his creation?
I'll tell you why. Because "God" is a man made concept. Religion has been used to control people since the concept of "God" was conceived. All religions are guilty of murder and hypocrisy. Religion teaches love for those who agree with a given mindset and hate for those who disagree with it.
Christians, Jews, Muslims and all other religions will never be completely happy until they have wiped everyone that disagree with their "God" off the face of the earth. Politicians therefore "play" to the hate and fear, and they are ALL guilty of it.
Bean grinder - go grind your beans before you speak
The Palistinians are a culture of corruption? And homeland? The Palestinians had a homeland - 1945 map my boy and they welcomed the Jews during the Exodus - and what happened - they got squeezed out as more Jews got greedier and greedier
What the hell they had every American Jew in the US supporting them and what did the Palistinians have - butkiss
Here is Bush's Administration of Dual Citizenship in our Government - yell if you see one Palistinian
American / Israeli Dual Citizens in the American Government
Attorney General - Michael Mukasey
Head of Homeland Security - Michael Chertoff
Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Richard Perle
Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) - Paul Wolfowitz
Under Secretary of Defense - Douglas Feith
National Security Council Advisor - Elliott Abrams
Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) - “Scooter” Libby
White House Deputy Chief of Staff - Joshua Bolten
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs - Marc Grossman
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department - Richard Haass
U.S.
Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) - Robert Zoellick
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - James Schlesinger
UN Representative (Former) - John Bolton
Under Secretary for Arms Control - David Wurmser
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Eliot Cohen
Senior Advisor to the President - Steve Goldsmith
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary - Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of State - Lincoln Bloomfield
Deputy Assistant to the President - Jay Lefkowitz
White House Political Director - Ken Melman
National Security Study Group - Edward Luttwak
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Kenneth Adelman
Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) - Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
National Security Council Advisor - Robert Satloff
President Export-Import Bank U.S.
- Mel Semble
Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families -
Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs
- Mark Weinberger
White House Speechwriter - David Frum
White House Spokesman (Former) - Ari Fleischer
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Henry Kissinger
Deputy Secretary of Commerce - Samuel Bodman
Under Secretary of State for Management - Bonnie Cohen
Director of Foreign Service Institute - Ruth Davis
If this story was about anyone other than the Republican Candidate, you all in here would agree with what he said.
But since the liberal loons in here slam Mitt Romney for his stance on the radical palasitinians, then you are really supporting and defending them!
What a bunch of CLOWNS!
What people such as yourself always fail to see is that this is really about religious hatred. Jews hate Arabs. Arabs hate Jews. Why? Because their "God" mandates it on both sides. Only one thing could maintain such hatred for over 2000 years.... religion. Sensible people would have found peace with each other by now. Religion does not allow for such sensibility. Both sides will hate until one annihilates the other.
I see that Mitt the mouth is babbling. Again. "The hand of providence"?Come on now Mitt, I thought we would be pastthat "god is on our side" crap by now.And then... to blame Palestinian poverty and the lousy Palestinian GDP on "cultural" differences. Hey, what do you EXPECT?... after years of Israeli blockades, Israeli occupations, and Israeli apartheid?To paraphrase one of marvelous Mitt's infamous quotes:Palestinians are people too, my friend! The old proverb says that where there is no vision, the people shall perish.Vulture capitalist Mitt Romney has no vision, no understanding, and no compassion.
Perhaps Romney should OUTSOURCE his foreign diplomacy since he has a COMPARATIVE DISADVANTAGE in those skills. Romney is REALLY GOOD at outsourcing.
If Obama was going to take away the tax breaks he would have done it already. Last year he extended the tax breaks for the wealthy and ended the making work pay credit. Don't tell me he is for the working poor. Neither are for the working poor. The working poor are doomed to a life time of slavery as long as we have this faux competition YOU are enabling. We need to start a new system from scratch.
Please don't remind us about the GOP blackmail.... Holding unemployment hostage to extend the wealthy tax breaks. It just makes the Republicans look like BIGGER FAILURES.... (if that's possible.)
If we would stop giving every-ones hard earned tax dollars to Israel I bet the Palestinians economy would bet par for the course. How do you think my friends in Israel live the way they do. It is because we subsidize ever segment of their economy. Just ask someone you know who lives there.
Not content to disrespect the Palestinians, a nice slam at Mexico, too, Mitt??? With all the family history you have there, too. Fine statesmanship... you make W look like Churchill.
What I find most amusing is the fact that Romney was praising the terrific health care system in Israel. He couldn't get over low cost (only 8% of GDP as compared to the US at 18% of GDP) and the high quality. Israelis have the 4th highest life expectancy in the world. So Romney was busily telling them what a great health care system they have, and . . . it's nationalized health care with mandatory participation. Oops!
Here's the question: If it's good enough for the Israelis, Mr. Romney, why isn't it good enough for US? Shouldn't we be allowed to lower health care costs by 10% and have a greater life expectancy? Why do you speak against this system when you're at home? Could it be you're trying to kiss up to the right wing base? Could it be you don't believe a word you're saying?
I bet McCain is having flash backs of trying to defend Palin during his campaign. Hey McCain why don't you try to distance yourself from the idiots, that way you won't feel the need to put words in your dumb counterpart's mouth.
Poor Willard doesn't have the friendly confines of Fopx "news" to shelter him overseas. Poor poor Willard..
Israel is doing fantastic, they are God's chosen people. Booming economy, they have it all SO they don't need any more of my tax dollars. I am an American with one passport and that is how I feel.
underemployed - At one time I collected maps - I still have a map of Palestine - dated 1945
I can't help but think the Jews are doing to the Palestinians what was done to them and that is put them in ghettos
Maybe the Arab Spring will change all that... maybe !! BUT I seriously doubt it !!!!!!!!!
Another one that doesn't use any part of his brain before he speaks. Why do we assume people over 70 still have all their marbles or is the media just poking fun of the old and insane?
Aphasia, disjunction between what you intend to say and what comes out. Eisenhower suffered from a form of it. Mitt is either aphasic or related to Edgar Bergen's idit puppet, Mortimer Snerd. Neither dummy wou7ld make a smart President, I suspect.