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Subscribe to RSSRecapping Romney’s stop in Israel… It wasn’t London, but there were still some snafus for Team Romney there… Romney touches down in Poland… And he admits he’s been audited by the IRS… Romney’s transparency problem… What he said at that fundraiser with Sheldon Adelson… Bill Clinton’s big role at the Democratic convention… Obama camp stops its PA ad spending, for now… And Cruz-ing to victory: Will Ted Cruz beat David Dewhurst in tomorrow’s TX SEN run-off?
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Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney is pictured in front of the Old City of Jerusalem as he delivers foreign policy remarks at Mishkenot Sha'ananim, July 29, 2012.
*** Recapping Romney’s Israel stop: Fortunately for Mitt Romney and his campaign, the visit to Israel went much smoother than the stop in Great Britain. But there were still some snafus (more on them below). In his speech yesterday in Jerusalem, Romney checked all the boxes. He embraced Israel. “We’re part of the great fellowship of democracies. We speak the same language of freedom and justice, and the right of every person to live in peace.” He talked tough on Iran. “We must not delude ourselves into thinking that containment is an option. We must lead the effort to prevent Iran from building and possessing nuclear weapons capability.” And he even made a subtle dig at President Obama, referring to the tension between the Obama administration and Israel’s conservative Netanyahu government. “Diplomatic distance in public between our nations emboldens Israel's adversaries.” But what Romney DIDN’T SAY was almost as striking -- if not more so. Not once did he utter the phrase “peace process” nor the words “Palestine” or “Palestinian,” and that also means he never talked about or made the case for a two-state solution. Was the speech for anyone other than base Republicans? This trip to Israel felt like a primary trip, not one aimed at the general election.
*** More snafus: As mentioned above, Team Romney still had some problems while in Israel. For starters, a top adviser on Israel matters -- Dan Senor -- suggested that Romney was set to support a unilateral strike by Israel on Iran, the New York Times noted. “If Israel has to take action on its own, the governor would respect that decision,” Senor said in a briefing before Romney’s speech yesterday. But Romney later walked back Senor’s remarks, telling ABC: “I think I’ll use my own terms in that regard and that is that I recognize the right of Israel to defend itself.” Also, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that Romney canceling his meeting with an Israeli opposition party figure upset folks there. And a Palestinian official criticized Romney for asserting that Jerusalem is Israel’s true capital, the AP said. “The Palestinians want to establish a capital in east Jerusalem, captured and annexed by Israel in 1967. Most of the world, including the U.S., does not recognize the annexation. The U.S. and others keep their embassies in Tel Aviv.” What’s more the same Palestinian official also criticized Romney for suggesting that Israel’s culture is superior to the Palestinians’. So it wasn’t England, but Romney was still 1) making folks mad, and 2) having to walk back remarks.
*** Arrival in Poland: Romney and the media following him have touched down in Poland, the final leg of the candidate’s weeklong overseas trip. On today’s agenda in Gdansk: Romney participates in photo sprays with Polish PM Donald Tusk (at 10:15 am ET) and former President Lech Walesa (at 11:20 am ET). Later, he visits a World War II memorial and Solidarity Monument Site.
*** Romney admits he’s been audited by the IRS: Romney made some other -- call it accidental -- news yesterday in his interview with ABC. He mentioned he had been audited by the IRS. In response to question about his tax returns, the GOP candidate said, “[M]y view is I’ve paid all the taxes required by law. From time to time I’ve been audited, as happens I think to other citizens as well… I don’t pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president.” The Romney campaign will not say what year he was audited -- only that he was found to be in compliance and that the audit took place more than 10 years ago. But while being audited isn’t that odd, it only adds to the narrative that his tax returns are so unique that it invites an audit.
*** Romney’s transparency problem: The Romney camp was wise to reverse course and finally allow press into a fundraiser in Israel this morning that it suddenly declared off limits, which violated protocol with the media. Why was it smart to reverse course? Because the Romney campaign already has a transparency problem. It has said it won’t reveal its bundlers (as George W. Bush, John McCain, and Barack Obama have) or release Romney’s own tax returns prior to 2010. So barring the media from covering an agreed-upon event would have even furthered this transparency problem. All administrations tend to be less transparent than promised once they get into office -- it’s the natural result of partisan conflict as well as the tension between the different branches of government. But Romney is well on his way to being the first presumptive presidential nominee we can remember who has been LESS transparent than his predecessors.
*** What Romney said at that fundraiser in Israel: So what did we learn from this fundraiser after the press was allowed entry? According to the pool report, attendees included Sheldon Adelson and his wife, New York Jets owner Woody Johnson, mega-donor Paul Singer, and others. What’s more, Romney’s remarks at the fundraisers seemed to criticize Obama, though Romney didn’t mention him by name. “We face some real challenges, nonetheless, and perhaps in part because of the great success of these places, this home of yours, my home of America, that some are troubled by our success and seek to bring us down.” He added, “The news that our economy grew at 1.5% last quarter was really quite troubling. We’re now four years past the big downturn that occurred in 2008, and four years down the road and still seeing tepid numbers bouncing along the bottom is troubling.”
*** Adelson’s top issue: Speaking of Adelson, it is especially noteworthy that the biggest issue for the No. 1 donor to Republican causes, campaigns, and interest groups right now isn’t a domestic concern like taxes or regulation. It’s Israel. Adelson has really doubled down on becoming the highest profile mega-donor to the GOP. He seemed to almost relish the attention he was getting from the U.S. press corps while in Jerusalem on Romney’s behalf.
*** Bubba’s role at the Dem convention: As the New York Times first reported, former president Bill Clinton will speak in primetime on the next-to-last day of the Democratic convention, on Wednesday, Sept 5. That decision, NBC’s Carrie Dann notes, means that Vice President Biden will instead speak before the president on the final Thursday evening of the convention. Clinton is expected to argue for Obama's economic policies in his speech. "There's no one better to cut through on economic issues and lay out the choice in the election because he understands the consequences of the policy differences" from his own presidency, an aide said. But what shouldn’t be ignored about this decision is that Wednesday Sept. 5 is the NFL’s first game of the regular season, which will air on NBC. (It’s Giants-Cowboys; not exactly a matchup of teams that have small fan bases.) The Obama camp realized that it needed a big draw to compete with the NFL game and to convince the other networks to cover (NBC will NOT be airing any of the convention on the NFL night). In addition, moving Biden to Thursday isn’t a snub at all; in fact, it means that more male eyeballs will be on him than would have been the case if he went on Wednesday. Per NBC’s Dann, sources say the decision to bump Biden to the final night of the convention was made jointly by the VP and the president. Both Biden and Obama will speak at the football stadium.
*** Obama camp stops its PA ad spending, for now: By the way, the Obama campaign is no longer advertising in Pennsylvania -- at least for now. We’ll have more information on all the ad spending later. But their latest buy has them in 8 states: FL, VA, NH, OH, IA, NV, CO and NC.
*** Cruz-ing to victory? And tomorrow is the Texas Senate run-off between LG David Dewhurst and Ted Cruz. All the momentum seems to be with Cruz right now. In fact, Politico pretty much says the race is his to lose. “Ted Cruz is on the cusp of a win in the Texas Republican Senate runoff that would shatter conventional campaign wisdom and elevate him as one of the brightest stars of the tea party generation.” Of course, anything can happen in a run-off. But if Cruz wins, it would be the Club for Growth’s biggest win in a big state. And a Dewhurst loss would mean that he got turned into the establishment incumbent. Given the unpopularity of Congress right now and of government in general, being tagged “the incumbent” is a political death sentence in competitive primaries. (Watch out Tommy Thompson).
Countdown to GOP convention: 28 days
Countdown to Dem convention: 35 days
Countdown to Election Day: 99 days
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Willard is unsure of the exact tax rate he paid, yet, he is feverishly attempting to convince us, he is the economic salvation for America?
Huh?
Common sense dictates, someone who has been running for President for the past 10+ years would have his fiscal house in order by now!
Just how bad are those tax returns that he is willing to continue to get hammered about releasing them? Things are not looking good when an ever increasing number of members from your own party are calling for Willard to publicize them.
The excuse, Democrats are only looking to comb through them doesn’t hold water since your own party wants to see what’s in them;
Figures don’t lie but liar’s sure figure!
How would it be possible to lie & distort what you, yourself filed with the IRS?
If they didn’t have a problem with them, then I’m positive most American’s won’t either… lol
YouWE the people have the right to know!Unforced Errors:
Like millions of Americans I have been glued to the TV, watching the Olympics. Watching athletes from around the world do amazing things in their sport has been delightful. Quickly it became apparent that it was not the outstanding moves that separated the winners from the losers, but the little things, the little mistakes that determined who stood on the podium and who did not. In gymnastics an athlete didn't have make a major mistake like falling of the apparatus, but the ever so slight deductions seem to add up.
The same has to be true in politics. The candidate who makes the fewest mistakes often wins the election. It's looking like Romney is piling-up the unforced errors; some huge and some tiny:
Being likeable, caring about the middle-class voters, having some social skills is tiny, but important.
Gaffes: When offered cookies in Pennsylvania or asking the British people if after 7 years of preparation, "Are you ready for the Olympics?" will indeed cost Willard points.
Telling the truth is not so tiny and Romney has flip-flopped on so many issues even Willard does not recall what he once said.
Not releasing 12 years of tax returns will be a major deduction.
While CEO of Bain, outsourcing jobs to China and India will be costly in the "rust belt" states.
As Governor of Massachusetts, being 47th in job creation is another deduction.
But probably the most important lesson to be learned from the Olympics is all athletes want to win the gold. Romney wants to be POTUS. It doesn't matter how much you want it. It is a goal that cannot be reached by wanting it or purchased with Romney's PAC money. It is a goal that is given by the American voters to the one who makes the fewest unforced errors.
Who gives a crap what Romney paid in taxes. I'm worried about what I pay in taxes. I don't see how Obama's policy of taxing anyone in this country more is going to benefit me. Let's elect a leader who knows how to create job maybe a business organizer could get this country back on track. Chicago could use help organizing it's community. ROMNEY 2012!
On the Bush tax cuts, due to expire at the end of 2012:
Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) was wrong when he gave the Republican response to the President's Weekly Address this weekend. He said "Democrats are content to raise taxes on everyone if they don't get their way."
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S PLAN:
1) On incomes up to 250,000 dollars, ALL working Americans receive a tax cut.
2) For incomes at ONE DOLLAR MORE than $250,000, taxes return to the Clinton rate.
The Gift that Keeps on Giving – "You Didn't Build That"
A wise man once defined a gaffe as when a politician inadvertently speaks the truth. So by that standard, did Obama commit the mother of all gaffes in his Roanoke speech a few weeks ago? Or was he merely guilty of a clumsy choice of words that was allegedly taken out of context? The professional left is going bonkers over this, whining to anyone who will listen that the president's words were twisted beyond recognition by the evil right. Of course, our cuddly leftist friends have never had a problem with twisting Romney's words into things he never meant. So I guess the sanctuary of appropriate context is available only to the saintly who advance the interests of the righteous.
Be that as it may, here's the real deal: the context of Obama's remarks is just as damaging as that now infamous single sentence. In fact, the RNC has put out a terrific ad that provides ample context by showing an extended clip of that passage in the president's speech. And in that clip we learn being smart is not really a big deal in the president's view. Heck, there's lots of smart people out there. And working hard isn't such big deal either because lots of folks out there work hard too. Nope, the great differentiator that separates the successful from those who are less successful is not hard work and brains – it's the helping hand of government.
Good grief, you can't make this stuff up. Using your head and working hard are among the bedrock values that define who we are as Americans. The president's gaffe was to expose his core belief that those values are subordinate to a benevolent government that nurtures those traits and thereby enables individual success. And the reason we're still talking about Obama's remarks is that his inadvertent candor speaks directly to his view of our national identity – and raises the unsettling issue that this president does not share the same ideals and beliefs as the people he governs.
That is a devastating indictment of the president, but it's not the first time he has given us a glimpse into what he really thinks. Few have forgotten his dismissive remarks about those who "cling to their guns and religion." Nor his views on the need to "spread the wealth around" nor his assessment that "the private sector is doing just fine." All of these comments describe the mindset of a man who is clearly out of touch with the American reality most folks experience, and the Roanoke remark was just the latest in a series of these highly revealing verbal blunders. Indeed, it's the repeated expression of such views that has made Obama's latest stumble so politically potent and Republicans would be well served by throwing the president's damning words right back in his face every chance they get.
That's why "you didn't build that" is the gift that keeps on giving. And that's why we'll continue to hear a lot about it for the rest of the campaign – which is exactly as it should be.
Willard Mitt Romney The Stranger
~snips~
Willard Mitt Romney the alleged human being, is practically nonexistent. And at no other time has this been more evident than in the battle over Romney's tax returns.
After a whole lot of whining from Newt Gingrich during the primaries, Romney released part of his 2010 tax return and an estimate for his 2011 tax return, which he says he will release as soon as it is ready. But that's it. His campaign has taken so much heat for those unreleased tax returns from the press and the Obama campaign that one has to assume there must be something really bad in there—worse than the offshore accounts that give the appearance that Romney has no confidence in the United States as an investment anymore and worse than the exploited loopholes that result in Romney's tiny 15 percent tax rate.
Can you even imagine what must be in those tax returns? The Obama campaign has wondered aloud, in TV commercials, whether Romney paid any taxes at all for several of the years he's hiding. The Romney campaign responded that those allegations are ridiculous—of course Governor Romney paid taxes, they huffed—but they won't release any proof.
It's gotten so bad that even Republicans who don't like Obama are begging Romney to release his tax returns. Whatever is in those tax returns can't possibly be as bad as the imaginations of the American voting public, these pundits and elder statesmen of the party are saying
This overcompensation principle has worked well for Romney in his professional life. His personal fortune is estimated at somewhere between $200 million and $250 million, and his command of Bain was often described as dictatorial. I reiterate: He was so successful at his job that he won't allow the American people to look at his tax records for any year before 2010.
By any monetary metric, Romney is wildly successful. But is he well liked?
Noooo. In fact, just about every Republican presidential contender who faced Romney in the 2008 and 2012 primaries hates his guts.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-man-without-qualities/Content?oid=14272267
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Willard "MYTH " Romney 80s nervous snicker is alien to 99% of Americans. How could anyone like its bizarre sound? Willard "MYTH " Romney is a monster a Corporate Robber Baron monster.
Kudos to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia for reiterating there should be GUN CONTROL!!! The Founding Fathers were talking about muskets not assult weapons.
4more for 44
Obama/Biden 2012
So Obama’s biggest accomplishment is really his biggest failure. The Bin Laden raid was delayed three times because? Well, because Valerie Jarrett told Obama “don’t do it” on three separate occasions. And he followed her orders.
That Jarrett broad is really something else. She’s the one that declare war on the Catholic Church!
This country needs real leadership! We need Mitt Romney.
Note to FR: It is disrespectful for professional journalists to call President Clinton "Bubba" or Bush 43 "Dubya" Please show some respect for our past Presidents.
Every tme you do it, I will call you out for being disrespectful!
So, the slow-bama "recovery" is going even slower than ever. Given the anemic and pathetic Q2 GDP ”growth” of 1.5% reported last week, and continuing high unemployment, what makes Barry think he’s entitled to another term in office??
He’s already had Jimmy Carter’s second term and it’s time to put Barry out to pasture with ole Jimmy.
The weekend WSJ had an editorial comparing economic growth since the end of the recession in June 2009 with the three years after Jimmy Carter’s recession of 1981-82. It concluded:
The chart in the editorial is also worth a thousand words and is damning in its presentation of Barry’s failures.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443477104577553211912280818.html
As if MORE proof of Barry’s failures was needed, his own OMB issued a report on Friday confirming his economic failures.
From Politico:
OMB report says recession will cost decade of high unemployment rates
By REID J. EPSTEIN |
7/28/12 3:51 PM EDT
The numbers that have the White House projecting an unemployment rate dipping below 8 percent before November still show the economy struggling to recover until well after the next presidential election, with rates not expected to stabilize to pre-recession levels until after the second term President Obama is hoping to win.
Republicans quickly leapt on Friday's Office of Management and Budget report that prediction slower-than-expected economic growth this year and next, with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.9 percent by the fourth quarter. Mitt Romney’s spokeswoman called it the latest evidence of Obama's failure on the economy, but the full study paints a stark long-term picture as well.
The OMB, in its Mid-Session Review to Congress released Friday, projects unemployment will drop gradually, to 7.7 percent in 2013, 7.3 percent in 2014, 6.7 percent in 2015, 6.2 percent in 2016, 5.7 percent in 2017 and remaining at 5.4 percent from 2018 to 2022. The national unemployment rate was last at 5.4 percent in May 2008, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data.
The projections are based, the report said, on accelerated economic growth as the country comes out of its recession.
You’re doin’a heck of a job, Barry.
This just in;
Welcome home Pat!
Last week using a 51 majority vote rarely permitted by Republicans, Senate Democrats passed a plan to extend the Bush tax cuts for all Americans making less than $250,000 - for an additional year.
However this week, House Republicans plan to protect tax cuts for the richest Americans, and extend all the Bush tax cuts - as well as fast-track "tax reform".
As per the Paul Ryan's House Budget Plan:
"would relax some of Congress's normal procedural rules in order to enact an overhaul of the tax code...
A Huge Tax Break for Millionaires No Matter How It's Structured
CTJ issued a report in March concluding that Ryan's proposed changes to the personal income tax would provide taxpayers with income exceeding $1 million in 2014 an income tax cut of at least $187,000 on average...
Increasing Incentives for Corporate Tax Dodging
The CTJ report on the Ryan plan also explains that reducing the statutory corporate income tax to 25 percent would likely lose revenue when we should be raising revenue from corporate tax reform. (CTJ's major study last year of most of the profitable Fortune 500 corporations found that their effective tax rate, the percentage of profits they actually pay in taxes, was just 18.5 percent, far less than the statutory rate of 35 percent that Ryan and Camp complain about.)
CTJ's report on the Ryan Plan also explains that a territorial tax system — exempting offshore profits of corporations from U.S. taxes — can only increase the incentives that U.S. corporations already have to disguise their U.S. profits as "foreign" profits through shady transactions that shift their earnings (on paper) into offshore tax havens." (Citizens for Tax Justice)
CTJ also noted that:
These changes would benefit the wealthy and corporations.
They would give millionaires a $187,000 annual tax cut, while likely increasing taxes on the middle-class and working families.
They would boost the incentive to invest overseas and send jobs offshore.
It's in a book so it must be true, right?
VinnieSaltine:
On Friday's First Thoughts you responded to one of my posts saying:
I wouldn't say that only political junkies are paying attention right now and that the remaining electorate will suddenly start to pay attention at Tampa; I think that is a gross miscalculation on Rmoney's part.
Obama's entire campaign is currently predicated on the premise that the majority of the electorate is not paying attention right now. This is why he is pouring so much of his resources into negative and misleading ads in the swing states. The calculation is that in doing so he may be able to define Mitt Romney before the Republican convention and blunt his inevitable bounce in the polls when the voting public gets to know him better. Personally, I think this is the "miscalculation". Usually a candidate waits until just before the election before going negative and does so for several reasons:
First of all, by making negative attacks early in the campaign, a candidate runs the risk of innoculating his opponent against them by election time. By that point voters have already accounted for the damaging information in their decision or disregarded it alltogether if they deem it to be misleading or untruthful. Because of this, candidates who go negative early begin realizing diminishing returns from their attacks and in fact can suffer some backlash from continuing to use them over time. Imagine if Romney were to dredge up Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers or Tony Rezko in his ads. Would this work for him or against him?
Secondly, because negative attacks have a tendency to drag down the attackers positives or "likeability", which is an area of strength for this President. While he currently leads Romney in this metric, recent polling indicates that the negativity of his campaign is beginning to take it's toll.
Last of all, by getting into the mud with the challenger, the incumbent cedes the aura and prestiege of the Presidency. Instead of taking advantage of the of his position and office he puts himself on equal footing with his opponent effectively becoming just another run-of-the-mill politician.
...I would say that 45% of Americans have already decided that they are either for/against Obama, and that very, very little is going to happen between now-and-then that will change their minds...
I agree that the 45% of Americans that have already decided they are "against" Obama are unlikely to change their votes. I do not agree that the 45% that are "for" Obama are as immovable nor do I agree that very little is going to happen that could change their minds.
This is clearly an advantage for Romney. Those who have already decided they want Obama out of office are doing so because either they are diametrically opposed to his political philopophy, or because they are convinced that his policies are ineffectual and that on many issues-- including most importantly the economy-- he is leading the country in the wrong direction. While the same diametric opposition to Romney's political philosophy exists for about two thirds of those on the other side, because Romney's policies aren't the ones currently in practice, the remaining third are basing their judgements on their negative perceptions of him or because of a simple resistance to change. Potentially, both of these things are subject to change.
However the other 10%, the largely undecided, do pay attention and are informed, and although they are not as swayed by the day-to-day happenings of the campaign, they will be focused on the aggregation of everything that happens...
For the most part, I actually agree with this statement. I would point out to you however, that historically this segment of the electorate has tended to break for the challenger come voting time.
Frankly, all we have heard from Rmoney is, "Our president is no good, I can do better" without any plans or specifics, which is a lot like saying to America, "Just trust me"...
And how exactly is this different from Obama's message in 2008? At least Romney brings an impressive record of real-world experience in the private sector with him-- unlike Obama whose only work experience consisted of jobs as a Community Organizer and as a college lecturer before he took office. If the Obama campaign and his Democrat/liberal supporters did not agree with me on this point and find it worrisome, they wouldn't be spending all of their time, effort and resources trying to discredit Romney's record.
GOP/Norquistians say if we spend more $Trillions on tax cuts for the wealthy, we'll somehow create jobs — even if it is paid for by gutting education & job training, and by raising taxes on the middle class.
GOP congressionals like Orrin Hatch warn of taxing 'one of the most productive segments of our economy'.
But our economy is 3D proof that the top 0.01% are money makers - not job creators.
Folks like Romney don't spend all their money on food, rent, gas and everyday needs - but they do sock it away in the Cayman Islands.
Backhouse
On the Bush tax cuts, due to expire at the end of 2012:
Good Morning Backhouse,
Those taxes are another problem for Mittens.
4more for44
Obama/Biden 2012
I know several small business owners who have been HIGHLY pissed at Hussein's critical remarks about them for weeks now. These are people that, when I first knew them, were just starting their businesses and had their whole families working there etc...They are outraged at Obama's idiotic remarks and got noting good to say about him where some thought he was "ok" before. Of course, these friends being hard working, patriotic Americans, they weren't likely to vote for him in the first place, but Hussein's true feelings coming to light that way have been...um...damaging. lol
By the way. James Holmes, the Aurora movie psycho killer, drove along several different roads and crossed over many bridges to get to the movie theater that night. Doesn't that mean that the people who built those roads and bridges are partly responsible for the bloodshed? He "had help", didn't he?
UAW Please cease your whining....
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-government-one-best-bargains-151007984.html
Well Romney sure wowed then in England with his snide remarks that insulted ever one from the Queen down. Has this man have no sense of where he's at or what he says? Apparently not. Well, their goes another ally Thanks Willard. What an idiot.
Now he's over in Israel insulting the Jewish State. Boy that will sure help him with our Jewish voters herein the USA. Can't wait till he gets to Poland. That could be classic. He's now showing us his "VAST" foreign affairs knowledge and experience. He's a joke and an embarrassment to our Country.
And it looks like he won't release any more TAX RETURN. Must be some very juciy details in them.
It's going to hurt him bad.
OBAMA IN 2012.
Romney certainly looks biblical, strolling around Jerusalem. That massive head, with nothing inside it, is very impressive, and he seems to be warmly received by some Israeli leaders. Reminds me of when Jesus said:
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing,but underneath are ravenous wolves. "
FR:And he even made a subtle dig at President Obama, referring to the tension between the Obama administration and Israel's conservative Netanyahu government. "Diplomatic distance in public between our nations emboldens Israel's adversaries." But what Romney DIDN’T SAY was almost as striking -- if not more so. Not once did he utter the phrase “peace process” nor the words “Palestine” or “Palestinian,”
But what Romney DIDN'T SAY was worst and even more striking: Netanyahu DOESN'T KNOW Willard"Myth" Romney personally. As Nashville_Tenn said last week in a quote from Vanity Fair.
Netanyahu: Romney Lying About Their Friendship
Bibi Netanyahu told Vanity Fair
Willard"Myth" Romney the wailing LIAR.
Feisty: Excellent post! It looks like the motive for Romney not wanting to show his tax returns is he didn't pay his fair share of taxes.
Bill in Fairfax --
Do you think Romney shares the same values as his biggest monetary supporter Sheldon Aldeson? Wonder what he's trying to buy with that money? Think that over.
Obama sounds like a 5 year old when he endorses that ridiculous commercial of Mitt Romney singing. I hope he keeps playing it..... VOTE FOR CHANGE IN 2012!
UAW Pleeeeeease -- You sound like a 5 year old. Sheesh.
Interesting comment about "false prophet" Amy. It's funny, I don't remember Romney telling anyone that his election will be the day "the oceansed to recede" and "air would improve" while positioned in front of big, huge, FAKE Greek columns.
Thanks Ron!
I think it's pretty clear by now... MittWitt has plenty to hide when it comes to his taxes! ;o)
Hey Mitt, we want to see your tax returns.
Watching Willard’s “elect me, I’m Interesting” trip is like watching a season of “Idiot Abroad”, he has managed to piss off just about everyone! From insulting one of our greatest allies to the sitting crowd of maybe 30 (probably handpicked) people who came out to hear him speak in Israel was somewhat overwhelming…. He has the audacity to question the Presidents foreign policy and here he is, not even President, and within three days he has pissed off the Brits, the Palestinians and threated war with Iran… you may start to wonder just what he may be able to accomplish in office for 4 years…. Get your sons and daughters ready for war…after all, this seems to be what the Republicans do best!!
Romney don't release anything. We have one of the least transparent presidents ever. The real issue is Obama is a massive failure on the most important issue. Jobs!. What does it take to be in the middle class? A job. Obama is destroying our credit, our borders and the MIDDLE CLASS.
Willard's tax returns will show he's a thief. He stole money from the Olympics, the state of MA., Bain and the big theft, he doesn't want his investors to see how much money he stole from them. All of Willard's fortune was stolen. And he'll do the same to the average tax payer if elected.
George - numbers
Mitch McChicken (McConnell) said Republicants wanted to defeat Obama ... even by risking the entire nation's future. I guess McChicken and his GOP members of congress have succeeded in destroyong all chance of job recovery by filibustering all job creation initiatives of the President.
Time to vote all GOP Busters out. Vote Dem Bums in.
UAW Pleeeeeeeease
Well, then you should be happy with Obama because middle class tax rates have been lower under Obama than they were under Bush. That assumes you're middle class, of course. The Republicans plan to repeal the Obama middle class tax credits and cuts because they don't help out the wealthy.
Which is extremely hypocritical. They preach all this "job creator" bullsh*t but they cannot get the fact that the middle class are the "job creators" of our economy through their thick skulls.
as if the GOP hasn't done enough damages under Bush and today's Republican House majority, and some want to destroy America more with Romney.
Bush tax cut for the rich during two costly wars, screwing up the economy, leading to recession
a costly war on WMD grounds
a worldwide recession that was Made In America - the entire world has suffered because of Bush
Welcome back Ruken. Nice to see you, as always, are in a good mood.
Bill, Fairfax VA
The wise man was LIBERAL Michael Kingsley.
He wasn't "allegedly" taken out of context. He was absolutely taken out of context, as can easily be seen by reading the sentences immediately before and after.
The fact that Romney is now desperately trying to base his entire campaign on a two short sentences dishonestly taken out of context shows how intellectually and morally bankrupt he is. Romney is a liar, and so are you, Bill, for parroting the lie.
Stop it Houston, The Republican plan is to not raise anyones taxes.
Here's something out of context that Obama said in the same speech that I'm taking out of context on purpose just to show that you can make Obama sound like Romney with a little "creative" editing. Let's see if Bill Fairfax is smart enough to catch my little trick here:
Obama:
UAW Pleeeeeeeease
Stop being so ignorant UAWP. The Republicans most certainly ARE blocking the extension of the Obama tax cuts, some of which made up 25% of the "failed" stimulus. You can't acknowledge that Obama has cut your taxes because that would undermine your excuses for hating him. As with most sufferers of Obama Derangement Syndrome, you hated Obama from the beginning and latched on to reasons for the hate later.
Israel is our friend as long as the money keeps coming in, This Country Israel is sucking the blood out of America and for what, remember the USS Liberty. This Clown Romney Promised this greedy Country more money in hopes of gaining more votes back home. Will someone tell this Clown our piggy bank is empty !!!!!!!!!!!
Make up your mind...
Willard Mitt-Wit Romney thinking, only the middle class should pay taxes.
Baloney UAW Pleeeeease -- They will tax our employer sponsored healthcare and then cut our deductions without cleaning up the tax code. Count on it.
Read the Heritage Foundations PLAN for America's healthcare and SS.
http://www.savingthedream.org/about-the-plan/plan-details/SavAmerDream.pdf
Additionally with their "right to work" laws they will drive down wages significantly for the middle classes pushing them into the poor house. They are THAT STUPID.
JohnNY -- Very funny!! LOL
I'm always in a good mood, because unlike certain emo posters around here, I don't let internet text affect my life.
FR:
It should have been pointed out that Dan Senor was a Bush mouthpiece for the Iraq war. The Romney foreign policy is crawling with the same neocons responsible for the Iraq debacle and bungling the war in Afghanistan that they left to Obama to get us out of. Romney has no clue on foreign policy and if elected president, he would depend on these moral defectives to run foreign policy while busied himself with signing all of Grover Norquist's tax cuts for the wealthy. We would be at war with somebody or the other within a couple years of him taking office. As the macho man neocons liked to say before Iraq blew up in their faces: "Real men go to Tehran."
Going to Israel and beating war drums over Iran was a no-brainer when pandering for the Florida Jewish vote. That's not foreign policy. It's political routine. Send Mittens to Syria and let's see how big of a pile of s hit he steps in!
Wow JAS1, that was a quick month, eh?
From down the thread:
Ruken
Aren't you the guy that said he liked to masturbate to pre-op transexuals?
Guess some girls never learn.
So Obama’s biggest accomplishment is really his biggest failure. The Bin Laden raid was delayed three times because?
I suspect that the men on the ground who had been searching for Bin Laden since pretty much the beginning of the war and who found him and who dealt with him and took him out of this world are a little surprised to know that Obama is given credit for what they did. The one time I saw the man, he was sitting in a conference room, nice and safe.
I’m getting rather sick of people giving him credit for this one. Obama did absolutely nothing with regard to this.
Houston,
What you are ignoring when stating that Obama has decreased our taxes is reality. He has raised several taxes on business that sale products and services to people in all income levels. These taxes are then distributed to the consumer. Hell, within one month of taking office he raised taxes on smokers. What income group did that that most negatively impact? That's right, the poor.
I don't mind people supporting the man or his policies, but you could atleast know the facts and not lie while trying to support him. However, without the lies, you would find that there is little to love about the guy.
You really are desperate from a vag aren't you Blue Collar Auto? Of course, I guess women want nothing to do with an emo slum-dweller.
P.S.: Pretending men are women is a sign of closet homosexuality. But it really shouldn't surprise me that you want to put it into another man's ass.
in the middle -- Republicans will tax millions and millions of people while cutting their wages. How will that help business? 70% of GDP growth comes from consumers. By far biggest piece of the pie.
We certainly see the Liberal way of thinking on display in Boston and Chicago. Chick-Fil-A of course is a private business that employs thousands of people across the country. But in the major Liberal/Democrat cities of the country, apparently those cities don't want the Chick-Fil-A business model in their cities because it "Does not reflect the values" of those cities. In Chicago, a no-named alderman started the fight to keep Chick-Fil-A out of his district because the CEO of that company had the audacity to not believe what the alderman believed about gay marriage. Quickly jumping in behind this alderman was the mayor of Chicago, ex-Chief of Staff of the President, Rahm Emanuel, who also said Chick-Fil-A had no business doing business in Chicago because their values were not the values of Chicago. Apparently Rahm forgot that the CEO of Chick-Fil-A and the President until just recently shared those same values, but I digress.
What makes this more interesting is that apparently the values of a certain "leader" named Louis Farrakhan, a well known anti-Semite, a hater of Jews, has been enlisted by Emanuel, a Jew himself, because apparently the good mayor cannot control the murders happening in his streets, and he thinks a thug like Farrakhan can. So Mayor Emanuel embraces what he considers the acceptable and main-stream values of Mr. Farrakhan and his anti-Semitic rantings, but rejects the values of Chick-Fil-A as being too radical for the city of Chicago.
This is how liberals think. Hypocritical? Sure. Nonsensical? Absolutely. Effective? Not a chance.
Maybe you should apply.
To those who just don't get it, here's the president's remarks in context:
As was stated ACCURATELY in my post, the president was subordinating the bedrock American values of using your head and working hard to the helping hand of government as the great enabler of success. Furthermore, what those written words don't convey is the mocking tone the president took when he spit out words like "well, it must be because I was just so smart."
The only liars around here are the pathetic leftist trolls who are trying to spin their way out of Obama's devastatingly revealing gaffe.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia
So Romney had to pay fines for breaking the law. Felons for President!!! Damn no wonder the guy lost the Republican nod in 2008. But hey why do Republicans care if they have law breakers deciding the nations laws. Why not? Felons for President!!!! We can only hope Jeff Warren runs next. Pedophiles for President!!! Because Republicans do not seems to have any standards in their selection process just if the candidate has money no matter how many people they fired to earn it. Who cares if Romney owned an aborted fetus disposal company right? Hell yes Felons for President!!!!!
Anger Management courses take time. Lets see how effective they were for our good friend.
Hey Bill in Fairfax --
Care to answer if you think Romney shares Sheldon Aldeson's values or perhaps the banksters values?
Are those the bedrock of American values you hold so dear?
The whole tax return issue is a joke. So if Romney releases more it will simply be fodder for the left. McCain released 2 and no one said a word. So what if Romney paid a lower tax rate than others. The problem is not his lower tax rate it is the tax system that is full of deductions and other loopholes. Every American should want to pay less taxes. There are many things in Obama's past that he has not released and to some extent I agree with that. I don't care who you are there are some things that are simply none of peoples business. No one is alleging Romney did anything criminal the left simply wants to keep the story alive and shift focus away from the real issue....the record of the guy wanting 4 more years.
The whole Chick-Fil-A story takes the Democrat thinking from "you didn't build that" to "you can't build that.
Democrats are just simply anti-business!
in the middle-2260511
But you can't name a single one. So I'll help you out: Obama has raised taxes on cigarettes and tanning parlors. That's it. Unless you're a chain smoker and tanning enthusiast like John Boehner, those two taxes are NOT going to offset the tax credits Obama has given to the middle class. Maybe Republicans think we need lower taxes on carcinogenic products to get the economy moving again.
Hey Feisty, Ron, and all other members of the First Read Lib Club, this article is about Romney's very successful trip to Israel. Why are you talking about his income tax returns (which, by the way, no one gives a damn about)? Get on topic will ya?
in the middle-2260511
Yes. He's also raised taxes on tanning parlors. But unless you're a chain smoker and tanning enthusiast like John Boehner, Obama's middle class tax credits FAR outweigh those increases. But I guess Republicans think that what we need to get the economy moving again is to government off the backs of the carcenogenic industries.
Bill Fairfax:
No, he didn't. You're lying again. In the same speech Obama stated:
What gets you angry is that Obama made fun of self-important people who like to think they've been successful without the public resources that we all pay for. A perfect example of what Obama was talking about is that guy in Mitt's lying commercial "didn't build that" ad who whined about how he and his sons built his business through hard work. What he didn't mention that he also took over a million dollars in government contracts and loans. These are people who climbed up the ladder of success made possible in part by the government, and now want to pull it up after them.
The Reagan Recovery (working with a Democrat Congress) for first 12 quarters:
The Obama Recovery (working with 2 years his own party and the rest with a Republican Congress):
Obama is clueless.
Keep harping on Romney's non-issues to avoid talking about Obama's failure.
What he didn't mention that he also took over a million dollars in government contracts and loans.
I wonder why the government gave him the loans. Could it be that through years of democrats control this area became an economic waste land and that without those loans no one in their right mind would build a business there.
The other lie that the left wants to demonize this businessman for is that he lives in a Brookline home valued at 1.3 million dollars. What that pig Rachel Maddow neglected to report is that the guy bought that very home for $60,000 back in the early 1970's.
This business man and others like him that have spoken out against Obama's anti-business mindset are receiving countless vile and threatening emails and phone calls.
Rational AmeriCAN
You're not rational at all if you think the worst recession in 70 years isn't going require the longest time to recover. The comparison isn't to Reagan taking over from Carter. Obama taking over from Bush is like Roosevelt taking over from Hoover (although Hoover wasn't an idiot like Bush.).
Fool's Gold, I appreciate your well thought-out response. While I doubt that I'll be able to convince you otherwise of your opinions, I appreciate the civil discourse and have a few final thoughts as well.
This election, as is the case with most tight elections, will be determined by independent voters in swing states. I don't see how it is a miscalculation on Obama's part to go after these voters early with a clear strategy of 1) Demonstrate that Mitt Romney does not understand or represent their values and his plans (or lack thereof) will clearly show that, and 2) Demonstrate that the policies the president has instituted directly benefit the middle-class voters, and that this will continue moving forward. The run-up to the convention will focus on the first part, and the final run toward the election will be on higher ground.
Again, Mitt Romney's strategy so far has been one of constant criticism of the president and his policies, but has done very little to show what he would do better.
Personally, I don’t’ find Obama’s ads as being negative, and certainly no more negative than any that Mitt Romney (or his PACs) have run against the president.
Based on your assumptions, Mitt Romney should be leading among likely voters. However poll-after-poll shows that the general election right now is in a dead heat.
Mitt Romney does have the ability to attract independent voters and despondent democrats, but he has to do so in such a way that won’t offend/upset his base on the right. While there will be a large contingent of voters coming out against Obama, they don’t seem to be 100% sold on Romney either.
So, that leaves the Romney campaign walking a careful line between the base and Independents and so far his campaign seems to be ineffective at attracting these types of voters. He hoped to be like an "etch a sketch", and I believe that Independent voters recognize this, but instead he has nothing to offer.
Consider the major accomplishments that Romney had to run on (courtesy of ):
Furthermore democrats only have to point to Romney’s extremism in the primaries to discredit anything he can offer centrist voters.
Please cite recent historical data that supports this. Did this segment break for Senator Kerry in 2004? Bob Dole in 1996? Dukakis in 1988 or Mondale in 1984? The only two times I think this is true is in 2008 when the electorate overwhelmingly broke for Obama, and in 1992 when these voters likely went for Clinton (although I’m sure Perot got his fair share as well).
The President’s message in 2008 was supported by a legislative plan that would expand health care coverage, help equalize women’s pay, support American manufacturing, making America safer at home. What we received were: the Affordable Health Care Act, Tax Cuts for the Middle-Class, the killing of Bin Laden, and saving Detroit…
I get it, you don’t like Obama. It’s very clear that you will not support him, regardless of what he does/doesn’t do. Obviously I am Pro-Obama, but I would certainly give Mitt Romney careful consideration if he were to run as a Centrist AND had plans that benefit people beyond the wealthiest 1%.
The bottom line is that the President can run on his record; while Mitt Romney is running from his record.
And if the Romney Camp and the GOP were not so obviously worried about November then they wouldn’t be going to such great lengths to try and disenfranchise minority voters in key states.
Rational -- Reagan RAISED TAXES to RECOVER eleven times. Read history. He raised payroll taxes too. He also raised the debt and deficits significantly.
Only EXTREMELY ignorant people buy into what you are peddling. FACT is we are all de-leveraging and that takes much longer than a few years. Couple that with the obstructionists in the HOUSE and people understand why things are the way they are.
Ten years worth of tax returns please, Romney.
(You must be hiding something terrible.)
Brockton Barlow
Uh, yeah. Some government loans are made to areas that have become economic wastelands to restore them. Sometimes it works. And sometimes whiners like the one in Mitt's lying ad try to dupe the gullible into thinking they made it all on their own.
Thanks for repeating what Obama pointed out about the relationship between government and business.
Someone explain this...
How does Israel treat us as their "friend" ?
If Obama had a record to run on, he would. But the lack of record is evident in the liberal postings of what color socks Romney wore. In other words, meaningless drivel. As if anything about this trip is going to resonate with voters. Come this fall, when the real election season begins, Obama will have to survive the onslaught of his own words and promises. His failures will be broadcast repeatedly and without mercy. What is Obama going to come back with, Bain, tax return totals that mirror almost every previous president (prior to being elected not including those released during their terms in office), and an article in the London newspaper? What a laughable strategy, that I highly encourage and hope to see.
The only tax cut Pres Obama has done is lower the employee's social security rate from 6.20% to 4.20%. This is for anyone that receives a paycheck, doesn't matter how much your make or if your rich, middleclass or poor. If you receive a paycheck you get the 2% cut.
It was and still is a bad idea to extend these SS tax cuts another year. They shouldn't have been done in the first place and certainly should have not been extended last year. Why is it a bad idea? Because SS is said to be going broke, so why on earth would you put less money into SS when it is said to be going broke. Especially since far less people are working to collect that tax from and far more people are retiring to receive that benefit, thus speeding up its time to go broke.
Federal income rates have remained the same under Obama as they were under Bush. Those have not changed since Bush lowered tax rates for everyone across the board.
Rick-3416939If
He is. Saving the auto industry, averting a Great Depression, and health insurance reforms that get rid of lifetime limits, preexisting conditions, excessive insurance company profits, etc. Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive because of Obama. It's Romney who's running away from Obama's record. That's why he has to resort to despicable ads with deceptively edited Obama comments.
clb-462357
You should be thrilled that Obama's tax cuts benefited the wealthy, too, which is the group that Romney cares about. And you're wrong that the payroll tax cut is the only one Obama has managed. You seem to have already forgotten the "Making work pay" tax credit that was part of the "failed stimulus," and other tax cuts and credits that were part of the stimulus bill. As for getting rid of the Social Security tax cut, that would be disastrous in the weak economy. It's the Bush giveaway to the super rich that could be dispensed with with no noticeable impact on the economy other that reducing the deficit.
Now you're just trying a little smoke and mirrors.The rates by themselves don't matter. It's the EFFECTIVE rates that are lower under Obama than they were under Bush, including the rates for business.
My parents got audited. They're middle-class, $50k/yr folks with nothing unusual in their tax returns. What a stupid leftist statement from the article attempting to make more of an audit than there is.
Houston, you have a problem.
GM's alive, but it's not nearly worth what the government needs in order to recoup what it spent. Those are YOUR dollars.
Let's avoid a Great Depression, but do nothing to get out of the Great Recession. Unemployment remains high; growth is minimal; Americans lost more value under Obama than at ANY time in history; home values refuse to rise; I could go on.
Obama's health care plan is NOT the answer we need. It's going to cost way more money than it will ever save.
The truth hurts. Obama himself said:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/fact-check-obama-and-the-one-term-proposition/
No need to deceptively advertise here. He said it.
He also said:
With the serious lack of progress, I'd say his time's up. Otherwise, we'll be another four years in this 'hole'. Honestly, I don't think America, as we know it, can survive that long.
@DCIA
Nice buzzword bingo there DCIA. Obfuscate much?
Only EXTREMELY in the tank for Obama cannot see that the "deeper the recession the larger the recovery" has not happened. Those hairy things tickling your chin are Obama's bollocks. You may like swallowing his load of junk economic policy but the EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT among us know better.
8.2% unemployment.
15.8 trillion in debt.
a lousy 2.2% growth.
For crying out loud, there is so much pent up demand in this country the economy should be flying at 10% if numb nuts had any ideas other than socialism.
Barrack Obama, "Yeah, I built this (Economy)"
The GOP - Adopted a Clown !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Houston!
I know as a Democrat you are used to settling for lousy performance. Reagan's second quarter was 5% growth. His 3rd quarter was 9.3%. The next three were above 8%. Pent up demand from the Carter Error caused a great growth curve. Hard to argue with the facts.
Obama's best 4.1%. His last quarter was 1.5%.
1.5% is not growth, Maurice Ronald.
And the Dumbocrats elected a "Communist."
ray801
Wow, how original.
So, the American auto industry wasn't worth saving? The corporate raiders should have dismantled all the American auto manufacturing plants and auto parts plants and shipped them over to China along with the tens of thousands of jobs at those plants? I think you've got a problem: you don't know what you're yammering about.
It's amazing the pent-up demand right now. It's all STAYING that way because businesses are so uncertain about our future. Get a president in that knows how to grow business and you'll see the economy take off.
Bill in Fairfax. You give the correct, full quote, and then interpreted it your own biased way. That is akin to lying. When President Obama said "you didn't build that." he was referring to roads and bridges.
"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
You seek to distort. Stop being a troll. Few would criticize someone for hard work and initiative. But to think you did everything on your own, is not true. The United States is great because of a few simple but important things:
Stop being a troll!
@ VinnieSaltine "This election, as is the case with most tight elections, will be determined by independent voters in swing states."
The obvious true that the Left is staying as far away from as possible, it that had Obama truly been about "Hope and Change", this election would have been over before it started, and BO would have coasted into "fo mo ye-ahs". As it is, Obama will go down as the most notorious and destructive president in US history. Out decedents will read about him in our schools and silently curse him under their breath......Well done, Barry, well done!
Houston, your response is typical stupidity. You put words in my mouth. I don't believe the phrase
every came out of my keyboard. And it wasn't just the auto industry that was 'saved'.
Let's compare the auto industry and the airline industry (I'll try to keep this simple for you). One was bailed out, one was not. One received BILLIONS in taxpayer money, one did not.
Both have survived. Amazing.
Even Ford, which did NOT receive bailout money--instead opting to 'do it right'--has survived just fine.
Weird how that works, isn't it? There is a PROCESS out there for companies that are in trouble to go through. It's called bankruptcy. It's not billion-dollar bail-outs. It's not government-overseen turnarounds.
Have you seen the management turmoil at GM? I think something's cooking in the oven that we haven't smelled yet. Could be wrong here but it sure seems interesting.
Rational AmeriCAN
Easy to argue with your cherry-picked facts. By your own numbers, Reagan inherited an economy from Carter growing at a POSITIVE 0.5%, so the rate increase under Reagan from 0.5% to 9.3% was 8.8% in his best quarter.
But according to this chart:
http://ycharts.com/indicators/real_gdp_growth
Obama inherited a GDP growth rate at a Great-Depression magnitude of NEGATIVE 8.5% in December 2008. So even with a rate of only 1.5%, the GDP rate has increased by a full 10% under Obama -- better than Saint Ronnie of Reagan managed. The economy was in far worst shape at the beginning of 2009 after the Republicans wrecked the economy than it was when Reagan started. I keep saying that, but of course, you'll keep ignoring that inconvenient fact.
What interesting timing. This from autoblog.com:
GM still doesn't have a clue.
ray801
No I didn't. I ASKED you if you thought it was worth saving because what you said certainly implied that it wasn't. You're selectively editing what I wrote like a typical lying Republican imbecile.
...and the good news from GM just keeps pouring in... The last paragraph is QUITE telling....
That's quite the compliment, coming from you. Thanks!
I stick to supporting facts...with the occasional jab; you throw around insults and personal opinions, while providing few facts in your responses. One should not throw stones from a glass house.
I never implied it wasn't worth saving. What I said was:
That implies that the current result is less than stellar and is a reflection on the current state of the economy. It implies that it is YOUR tax dollars that are suffering as a result of the current economy.
The facts support themselves. GM is in a weird spot right now and only time will tell if they have learned their lessons...and if the bailout truly was successful or not.
If you take the time to read my posts instead of flying off the handle at the first sign of disagreement, you will see comparisons to similar industries that did just fine without government money...even other companies within the bailed out industries did just fine.
That says: bailouts aren't needed to save companies/companies that don't receive bailouts will survive...and if they don't the industry will adapt. The world won't come crashing down around us because a few companies don't make it. Would GM have failed? Nah. There were already talks of mergers and buyouts. Would millions of jobs been lost? Hard to say, but most likely not. Yes, it would've hurt, but it would've survived.
Cheers!
lray801
How many times does it take to get it through the thick skulls of you wingnuts that the private sector was in so much turmoil in 2009 that it was incapable of saving the auto industry? Not even Mitt's Bain Capital would risk it. If the government had not intervened, the U.S. auto industry would have been devastated.
lray801
You idiots are proud of the stupid lies you tell, even though you never get away with them. Go figure.
RATIONAL -- Tell me why Reagan had such high unemployment numbers? How many years did it take to bring unemployment down???
1981
7.5
7.4
7.4
7.2
7.5
7.5
7.2
7.4
7.6
7.9
8.3
8.5
1982
8.6
8.9
9.0
9.3
9.4
9.6
9.8
9.8
10.1
10.4
10.8
10.8
1983
10.4
10.4
10.3
10.2
10.1
10.1
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9.5
9.2
8.8
8.5
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1984
8.0
7.8
7.8
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7.4
7.2
7.5
7.5
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1985
7.3
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7.1
7.1
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7.0
1986
6.7
7.2
7.2
7.1
7.2
7.2
7.0
6.9
7.0
7.0
6.9
6.6
Reagan unemployment numbers
Do you know why GDP grew despite these unemployment numbers? It grew because government spent a TON OF MONEY on DEFENSE. That accounted for much of the GDP growth.
Then’s there is the inconvient fact that interest rates were sky high. 12% rate for a mortgages in 86-87.
Go back and do your homework.
Oh yeah, let's talk about pent up demand. You kidding yourself. Everyone is de-leveraging, including business. Consumers have no money to purchase so it's likely to get worse.
Rational --Pay attention to how long it took REAGAN to get UNEMPLOYMENT down and he wasn't facing the GREATEST RECESSION since the Great Depression.
Texson55
@ VinnieSaltine "This election, as is the case with most tight elections, will be determined by independent voters in swing states."
My keys were seized by a poltergeist, so I'll re-post this! LOL
The obvious truth that the Left is staying as far away from as possible, is that had Obama truly been about "Hope and Change", this election would have been over before it started, and BO would have coasted into "fo mo ye-ahs". As it is, Obama will go down as the most notorious and destructive president in US history. Out decedents will read about him in our schools and silently curse him under their breath......Well done, Barry, well done!
Texan55 -- The TRUTH is there is a group of GOP OBSTRUCTIONISTS in the HOUSE doing everything they can to halt economic progress. They are working against the American people because they hate one man.
Disgusting. History will record the obstructionists as being just that. They will look like the fools they are.
Vote these GOP FOOLS OUT!!!!
Tea-bag-not back in the hizzouse!!....Bottom line MITT-THE-TWIT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE!!....PERIOD!!..SO we could discuss all these non=issues in everyday peoples lives....MITT-WITT IS NOT FOR THE COMMON PEOPLE OF AMERICA...HE IS FOR BIG CORPS..AND THEIR INTERESTS...PERIOD!!......OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Don't really know what you're saying, Dont_carry_it_all, because I have you on "auto-flag" for collapse.....You, like most on the Left, are as irrational as they come, and not to be taken seriously....
lray801
Mitt Romney "saved the Olympics" by getting a $1.3B bailout from the Federal government.
By your rationale, instead of getting the government to foot the bill as part of his turnaround, Mitt Romney should have just let the Winter Games go Bankrupt.
Texson55 -- Auto flag --LOL Put me on ignore too. Pretty please.
You wish I was irrational but I'm not. I just make too much sense, thus you want to collapse my post.
And just where did you get that information? Let me guess - a right-wing news source well known for spreading innuendo, rumors, and making up outrageous lies! That narrows it down just a bit. Come to think of it, is there any right-wing news source that doesn't spread innuendo, rumors and lies?
But you know what? it doesn't really matter, Bin Ladin is still dead, the raid was a success, and Romney had said that we shouldn't do any military raids in Pakistan without getting their agreement first...
You must think that "anyone" refers only to the top 5%. The Republicans want to end a tax break Obama signed, a reduction in the payroll tax that everyone working for an income pays - a trivial amount to the 1 percenters, non-existant for investors, but a major increase for the working poor. Republicans also want to reduce or eliminate the "earned income credit", effectively making a major tax increase on the working poor. Also, Mitt has called for a "rebalancing the tax burden" - a euphemism for increasing taxes on the working poor and middle class so their rates will be like rates for the "working wealthy" - and well above the rates for the investor class like Romney.
Wow. Reagan's unemployment rules were a little different than how we do it today. How many unemployed people does Obama NOT count in the numbers?
Stew on that cherry pickers.
You don't think there is pent up demand?
You think that things are not wearing out? Needing replacement? You think that work forces are not being squeezed? You thing Boomers are not leaving the workforce? You think that old cars are not being asked to go further?
My inventory has been shrunk to 50 days on products that used to be 100 days, its been done to save cash, but these products are used to build stuff that wears out. Healthy economies grow and create demand. Time creates demand as well.
Only an idiot thinks there is no demand after a four year recession with numbnuts at the helm.
Where is the proof, the facts, the evidence that Romney outsourced jobs, was 47th state in unemployment while he was governor. Under Romney Massachusetts unemployment rate was 4%. Fact. He invested in iconic American companies like Dunkin Donuts and Staples. Obama on the other hand has provided loan guarantees to green energy companies. Solyndra goes bankrupt. First Solar gets 1.2billion from Obama's energy dept. and they create 700 jobs in Malaysia to manufacture solar panels. Solar Reserve gets $737million they create 15 jobs in the US and 500 jobs in Mexicali, Mexico. He has the shear audacity to stand in front of a bridge in Kansas City to brag about creating infrastructure jobs..knowing full well the Chinese are building the Oakland Bay Bridge with Chinese workers and Chinese steel & The Alexander Hamilton bridge in New York, subway stations and revamping the Brooklyn Bridge. You want to talk about outsourcing...Obama is a liar, liar , with his pants on fire.
Obama is one and done.
The newest research from Nate has it as:
“Obama chance of winning 67.4% Romney 32.6%”
Poor Bennie Birther.
Hey, it's "Ruken"!!
Aren't you the guy that said Our military personel, our brave fighting men and women, our "troops" are just "stupid rednecks looking for a way to murder people legally". Wasn't that you? I'm paraphrasing but you should be glad because your REAL quote was much worse, I recall. As were your similar quotes made later under a different name.
Aren't you the guy that said he liked to masturbate to pre-op transexuals?
Don't confuse Ben with facts Job1. He like all the other tea people Koch republicans like to live in their own delusional world.
Sorry Ben, but you will have to endure four more years of President Obama.
Yeah. That was you. Can't defend yourself without making anti-gay jokes.
By the way everybody! Make your you buy food this Wednesday from Chick Fil-A!!! I'll be there for sure. In fact, with me they have a new, loyal customer for life. Patronizing Chik Fil-A now means supporting traditional values and fighting back against the left's War On Christians.
You call yourself a Christian?
LOLOL!
Job1...okay...I'm sure the answer is obvious, but you keep talking about Nate. Who is Nate? Sure I'm gonna smack my head when you tell me! Thanks! :-)
Maybe John Boehner you should include John Boehner and the unwant refitting of the M1A1s being done in Lima Ohio.
Did I say I was a Christian, Ruken? No, I didn't. Please try and pay attention, boy. What I said was SUPPORTING Chik Fil-A is helping to fight back against the War On Christians. You don't have to be one to be disgusted at the CONSTANT attacks on the dominant religion of our country by the lefties.
Good, eat at chick fil a, it's high in fat, happy cholesterol !
I hear they import their chicken from China
Oh yes, I have to sure be disgusted at Christian hypocrisy being talked about.
And FYI, Christianity isn't a single "religion". But being as educated as you are, you knew that.
Hey Frank, "Nate" is Nate Silver a statistician who writes the 538 blog for the NY Times.
Google fivethirtyeight or Nate Silver and you will find him.
Ben must have read Cal Thomas's latest op ed talking about the war on Christians. Seems to me the War on Religion is owned by the GOP, the only religion they embrace is the Christian faith--the rest are all cults, don't-cha know. Romney, a Mormon, has some nerve criticizing the Islamic faith; at least Islamists don't baptise dead people including thousands of Jewish holocaust victims (without anyone's permission) into the Mormon faith. I doubt the Israelis would appreciate that. Last I checked the US Constitution doesn't say a word about us being a nation of Christians; in fact, it said we are free to worship as we please or if we please.
Hey, Ben, I thought you got mad and left FR Friday after throwing a full-fledged temper tantrum.
So Romney had to pay fines for breaking the law. Felons for President!!! Damn no wonder the guy lost the Republican nod in 2008. But hey why do Republicans care if they have law breakers deciding the nations laws. Why not? Felons for President!!!! We can only hope Jeff Warren runs next. Pedophiles for President!!! Because Republicans do not seem to have any standards in their selection process just if the candidate has money no matter how many people they fired to earn it. Who cares if Romney owned an aborted fetus disposal company right? Hell yes Felons for President!!!!!
WCA...thanks!!! :-)
Right on Ben. The culture of corruption is finished in Washington. This guy in the white house is the most devisive, corrupt, inept person to ever hold the presidency.
Romney made 250 million for himself. He will make Americans wealthy on the backs of the rest of the socialists worldwide.
Cant wait to say to the world when our economy ROARS BACK, "who funny now"! lol at you libs!
ROMNEY 2012, 2016
Apologies, Ben, my first paragraph was meant for Damaged not you.
As a practicing Catholic (and FYI Catholics are Christians - we were the first ones!), our homilies (sermons) should be "Dear God, save us from the GOP neocons and chickenhawks"
Thinking of saying a novena on the topic.
John Bolton.... Romney's "brain" is going to get us into a big messy WAR....
Syria and WMD: Iraq Redux?
John Bolton is still looking for Iraq's WMD, only this time he thinks they are in Syria. And like in Iraq, he wants the U.S. military to secure them.
Bolton suggests, because “unconfirmed reports” indicate that Saddam may have transferred weapons to Syria before his downfall.
We're in for another BUSH regime if Romney gets in
That guy is nuts, RI Mom. You're correct no daylight between Bush and Romney.
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle. Your homilies (sermons) should start, Dear God save us from our Catholic first christian pedophile priests. You vilify republicans but cannot see the forest for the trees. If you have not gotten your "religion" right by now, maybe you should stop practicing.
Take inventory Phine, those who have no sin..........
Welcome back Ruken!!!
Thanks Bev. How you doing these days?
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As a practicing Catholic (and FYI Catholics are Christians - we were the first ones!), our homilies (sermons) should be "Dear God, save us from the GOP neocons and chickenhawks"
Thinking of saying a novena on the topic
Good morning sunshine phine
Nine consecutive days of prayers for the neo-cons and chickenhawks is hardly enough. But, it's start. Especially, for John Bolt-on. He acts and looks like Hitler on crack. John Bolt-on needs help; badly.
Have a beautiful day phine.
Romney announced to the world that he will be a very obedient servant of Israel if elected.
Thanks Bev, I will. Got to go on a picnic yesterday. So nice to be outside for a change.
As for Snow, bet she is a Penn State Grad. Sweet pea, I'll take my church over any of your wanna-be's. In case you haven't noticed not all pedophiles are Catholic - so go spew your hate somewhere else.
Question of the day;
If a large portion of the republican party is made up of evangelical Christians, and Christians cite passages from the Bible to justify their opposition to planned parenthood, abortion, gay marriage, etc. and given these positions and the fact that Mormonism is considered a heresy by the Catholic and most Fundamentalist denominations, why then are they going to vote for Mitt Romney? He is, after all, an admitted heretic.
We are here each day yelling our choice for President. While the reelection of the President is important, we will accomplish little until we rid ourselves of the republican Congress. These fools are intent on the killing of this country. It seems, many of the people, institutions, news media included, have become nothing more than various winds of flatulence, spreading accompanying bits of dribble and smell to a substantively anemic economically dependent society, which now flourishes in pits of cankered pus and duncification.
Phine,
So you too are in denial. Last time I checked, Sandusky was Catholic, look it up. He is not a priest though. You were saying. Talk about hate speak. Look in the mirror. Take a look at who you align yourself with on this site. You brag about being Catholic, but you act like all the other fake religious people. You might as well try Scientology.
Lets hope he opens the Poland visit with an insulting Polish joke. At least that would be consistent as 3 duds out of 3 visits.
So far, this overseas trip hasn't done much to add to his foreign policy credentials. If anything it probably hurt more than it helped.
Damage123,
In what way are Christians under attack? In 1954 they got "God" put into the pledge of allegiance and in 1955, they got the word "God" put onto our money. Sorry, but you've been bamboozled. Working to prevent the most powerful religion in the US from turning our secular government into a Christian state is way different than persecuting them. It's like they slap us in the face and then tell us to quit hitting them. It's extremely deceptive and apparently the likes of you are easily manipulated.
Ruken
Thanks Bev. How you doing these days?
You're welcome. I'm good Ruken.
I 'm a little tired from campaigning in Iowa with OFA. It's very hilly. It's a good thing it wasn't in the 90 and 100 degree weather.
I was so excited I texted my GF Feisty while en route.
It was fun. Iowa is a swing state. As you know President Obama is fighting for the middle class and Iowa is middle class. Also, the auto recovery helped Iowa's economy. We got something Pinocchio Mitt doesn't have; momentum.
4more for44
Obama/Biden 2012
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Thanks Bev, I will. Got to go on a picnic yesterday
phine, that is great. I'm glad you got out. Looks like there may be more picnics for you coming up.
Romney & Israel go to war with Iran then goes into hiding with his sons and tells Annie it's her show. Is this draft dodging coward becoming a warmonger or is he just a Chickenhawk Clown. The people of France said Willard made a big splash with their Chicken population !!!!!!
@Steve C-526943: It is rationalized thusly. When faced with a choice of 2 evils, they claim their bible teaches they must go with the lesser evil. On the one hand there is the "bishop of Mormon Cultism" Romney. On the other is the "Black man", the President, whom they claim their bible teaches was damned to the pits of hell, by their god from the moment that god created Him. No contest by their reasoning. They allow, as with the Jewish, they will eventually convert them both, as per their gods will.
From my weekly review of polls.
President - Likely Voters - Obama 326, Romney 206. The only significant change was Ohio. I'm concerned about the methodology used in the poll because is 10 points away from the pack in Obama's favor taking the state away from Romney. This also appears to be the case for Virginia and Florida, but the outlier polls are only 6 points difference in those states.
Other changes taking place is that more Blue states races are getting closer, meaning the only reason Obama is holding his position is because he is currently spending more than Romney and more than Obama is collecting. Romney is reserving his funds for later.
In Registered Voters, the poll remains as it was for the last 4 weeks at Obama 347 to Romney 191.
In the Senate Republicans 47, Democrats 46, Independents 3 and 2 races in a tie.
In Texas, Cruz appears ready to defeat the establishment when Dewhurst resorted to a innuendo smear campaign (democrat trick normally) causing large numbers of republicans who will tolerate nothing of the sort to switched to Cruz As the Republican candidate for senate, Cruz would be at a slight disadvantage over the democrat challenger That probably won't last because Cruz sounds a lot like Marco Rubio.
The fact you actually think that this is what is going to happen is what makes your comment so sad. What will you do when things do not change magically under Romney? What will you do if they actually get worse? There is no way we are going to magically recover under any President from any party. The sooner you wake up to that reality the sooner you can discuss the issue rationally.
@Damage,
There are not many who attack Christians as a whole. Most of us Atheists, Leftists, and other rights advocacy groups only target those that think their religion is above every law in this country and that believing in God gives them the right to discriminate against who they want or who ever is forsaken in that marginal world called the Bible.
We do not attack the sane Christians that realize Gays are no different from themselves. We do not attach the Christians that are not trying to force their way into the Government to turn us ever closer into a theocracy by allowing Christianity to make every one of our laws. We do not attack the Christians who do not take their own religion out of context to try and justify their own racism/bigotry of things they are afraid of like Gays, Muslims, and things they do not understand like the higher level sciences (particle physics for example). At the very least I do not.
That does not mean I will not attempt to educate someone on their religion if they happen to be espousing some lie that has been told to them over and over again by their pastors. That I do as a gesture of pity.
Though, Ron Indiana, thought to make himself the authority over all of our comments, he--as well as Fiesty---have been shut down like a 4-cylinder motor with a blown head gasket......in the end, it seems the Left has very little to add to any political forum.... People are enraged by those candidates who they feel are "Satan in a Suit", but as the facts surface, there is really only one choice.....and that's the man who is the only one who has, and has ever had the true business experience to salvage our wrecked economy (despite what we may personally think of him),and that--due to errant liberal policies.
Why do we have to keep going through this cycle...."the Right messes up about every 20 years (or their mess-ups during that time come to a head), then, the Left gets put in the White House (whether they have the sense God gave a rock or not), the Left exacerbates whatever the Right might have done by 3 fold (and this has been a proven trend), and then the country kicks the Left out of office and off of the Hill. Am I the only one who sees this cycle??
I would rather have a person in the WH that KNOWS how to create jobs and wealth than who we have now. I don't give a rat's @$$ WHO it is. Obama's had PLENTY of time to effect change and growth, yet that hasn't happened. Yeah, blame the Republican congress...but how long were the Democrats in control after Obama came in? If he had anything, it should've happened then. He didn't, so it didn't.
@ Eric-913730 "Good, eat at chick fil a, it's high in fat, happy cholesterol ! I hear they import their chicken from China"
"I HEAR they..."----That's how liberals get most of their news, isn't it? Hear-say? Whatever....ya can't fix stupid....Ya can resolve it, however!......(but, it's illegal in most states)..... LOL
@ Steve C-526943 Question of the day;
If a large portion of the republican party is made up of evangelical Christians, and Christians cite passages from the Bible to justify their opposition to planned parenthood, abortion, gay marriage, etc.
Actually, you make a good point, and I think ALL liberals should practice planned parenthood---if not, out and out abortion at all times.,....by my calculations our society would run out of idiotic liberals per attrition by 2025. Peace would truly be restored to this nation.... Rock on, Libs! I won't stand in your way!
Romney is heading for Poland now where he will first praise Poland's economy and then tell a lame, offensive ethnic joke.
I've noticed this since the 60's and 70's. The liberals make really bad policies, pat themselves on the backs and then make even worse corrections once their original screwups prove erroneous.
As far as on the topic of Romney in Israel, screw those whiney Palestinians, their own Arab brothers wont even help them. They are like environmentalists, they would complain if you gave them a gold brick in a paper bag. Nothing is ever good enough and even if it were exactly the way they wanted it, they would still find a reason to whine.
The British press is just as sycophantic
about Obama as the Us media is. Why doesn't this surprise me? It seems Brits
are very easily manipulated by their MSM.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s “gaffe” in Great Britain
on Thursday, in which he called into question London’s security preparations
ahead of the Olympics, has been greeted with a mix of scorn and glee in both
the British and American press. Hours after the Telegraph reported that a rogue
Romney advisor said that his presidency would usher in a return to America’s
traditional respect for the United States’ “Anglo-Saxon heritage,” a phrase
which has been willfully misconstrued to mean the Romney camp’s support for
racially discriminatory and white supremacist policies, Romney stepped in it
yet again. Now the British press is having some fun with Romney’s slap at
London’s Olympic preparedness, but the Forth Estate in England has been far
from neutral towards President Barack Obama’s numerous anti-British gaffes.
Indeed, they have been rather forgiving. In light of this most recent misstep
by Romney, it’s worth a look back at how the British press treated some of the
President’s famous misstatements.
Yet, when Obama makes gaffes, the Brits do just as the US MSM does and spins
positively for "their guy".
In 2009, when President Obama presented Queen Elizabeth
II with a gift of an iPod populated with a variety of pictures and songs
tailored to the Queen’s liking, the Guardian gushed. “Clearly a lot of thought
went into this gift, as President Obama made no secret of his excitement at the
prospect of meeting the Queen,” wrote The Guardian’s Rosie Swash. The
President’s gift to then-Prime Minister Gordon Brown was a series of DVDs. Most
of the British press was “appalled,” but the Guardian noted in the headline
“it’s the thought that counts.”
When Michelle Obama met Queen Elizabeth for the first time, she broke with
accepted decorum by wrapping a friendly arm around her back. The Telegraph’s
headline? “Renewing a very Touching Relationship.”
The U.K. Daily Mail even opted to rewrite the history of that occasion,
suggesting that it was the Queen who opted to put her arm around the First Lady
first and thus inviting Mrs. Obama to reciprocate:
From the Daily Fail:
She is not renowned for public displays of affection.
Which made the Queen’s decision to put a friendly arm around Michelle Obama’s
waist at a Buckingham Palace G20 reception – prompting the U.S. President’s
wife to return the gesture – so utterly astonishing.
It continues.....
When President Barack Obama committed a slight faux pas
by toasting the Queen during a state dinner, he spoke over the playing of God
Save the Queen amid embarrassing silence. The Daily Mail hel pfully noted that the band “accidently”
started playing the national anthem over Obama’s speech. While that may be
true, the news organizationhad no such
interest in covering for his predecessor when “the blundering
Bush” made “another gaffe by winking at the Queen.”
The Guardian’s columnist Victoria Coren gushed
sympathy for the relatable moment of fallible humanity the
President stumbled into:
From The Guardian:
Now, it couldn’t matter less. If Obama had stumbled
over the table and emptied a soup tureen into the Queen’s lap, it wouldn’t
actually have mattered (except to the advertisers on YouTube), never mind
speaking a few accidental words over a tune. Nobody was hurt, nothing was
damaged, the whole thing was an utter irrelevance. And yet it’s impossible to
watch the footage without crawling around and whispering: “Make it STOP!”
More examples and conclusion:
When President Obama referred to the Falkland Islands as the Maldives (a chain
of islands quite literally located on the other side of the globe), the
Telegraph said the gaffe was an “uncharacteristic error” which was “more akin
more akin to those of his predecessor George W Bush.”
The President was attempting to use the Spanish word for the island, the
Malvinas, which in itself is a snub to the British – a reality that was noted
by The Daily Mail’s conservative
columnist Toby Harden. But you’ll be hard pressed to find any mention
of the incident outside of the occasionally irate British conservative opinion
maker.
But what Obama’s predecessor was quite unlikely to do would be to side with the
Great Britain’s adversary in the still-simmering dispute over those South
American islands. The United States did not back Britain’s claim to sovereignty
over those islands when their possession was in dispute, and ultimately sided
with a group of nations backing Argentina’s claim to possession – a claim
settled by force in the 1982 Falklands War.The
Telegraph‘s conservative columnist Nile Gardiner was quite upset
by the measure, but the British press was largely silent on the move.
While Romney’s inartful criticism of a fiercely proud people on their soil
ahead of an event synonymous with national pride was a bad move, the outrage
over Romney’s gaffe is quite selective since the same measure of indignation is
never reserved for President Obama.
It's pretty undeniable. The British press is just as horrible and manipulative
when it comes to lying and spin for Barack Obama.
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Obama is worse than Jimmy Carter and he didn't get re-elected. In fact Obama is the worst President ever.
Who to blame for what we have become? Ronald Reagan and the dissolution of the former USSR? Having an equally powerful enemy was always modern Conservative ground. I would argue that the demise of Russia has allowed the modern Liberal such as Clinton and Obama, probably the 2 most conservative liberals in history, to claim much of the center thereby pushing the Right further into a constrictive definition based on conspiracy and fear. This can be seen in conservative based legislation such as ‘Obamacare’ which is in reality ‘Romneycare’ with a capital C. This is also seen in having lost the War on Terror to Democrats, the Right invented Class Warfare over a few percentage points in taxation. The vocal Yahoo drummers of the GOP, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity et al started screaming nonsense about commies under the national rug and the Tea Party started waiving birth certificates as if they were the flag of patriotism. The former Soviet boogey man has become a hodgepodge illegal-alien-commie-terrorist-gay-atheist-abortionist-taxationist-liberal voting traitor.
With the GOP needing a lovely guns blazing war, we have Romney off in Israel bemoaning some phantasy about Obama not giving a damn about them (while back in Washington, Obama is signing a joint US/Israel missile defense treaty). We have Obama issuing orders to blow up terrorists and the Right bemoaning the loss of life of innocents (somehow the innocent lives lost in Iraq did not count) and that we are pissing off our ‘friends’ in Pakistan. We have Romney bashing the war drums with Iran hoping to harness a new ‘Great Enemy’. (Not having a world class enemy explains much of the Right’s rationale for calling Obama the enemy.)
Clinton, a political centrist, bent over backwards to work with Republicans and much was achieved, however, he occupied their territory to do so. This gave rise to the neocons under the Bush administration and the GOP veered to the far Right, so far Right that they could not work with the second coming of a conservative-liberal, Obama. The Center had become the Left.
"We are going to do the worst thing we can do to you Americans. We are going to take away your enemy." Former Soviet Spokesperson Georgi Arbatov
blackcat/whitecat, well said. Romney, though, in debates and elsewhere claims Russia is our biggest threat or Iran depending on which direction the wind is blowing.
I find it odd that the GOP hates communists so much, they see one behind every rock and tree, yet promotes rules, regulations and tax loopholes which allow US businesses to ship jobs to communist China while claiming, as Mitt does, they will be tough on China. I'm not saying US businesses should not do business with China but why are we so willing to give our technological knowledge and superiority away by building factories in China in the name of cheap goods. Americans talk tough about human rights in China yet build factories which exploit those human rights. In essense, we make China an economic powerhouse--ignoring human rights in China, ignoring the health and safety of Chinese workers--by out sourcing and off shoring US jobs and US factories. It may be we live in a global economy but it seems pretty stupid to hand economic power to another country with our blessing while treating human rights as a side bar.
blackcat....I'll ignore the rest of your rant. But, one point sticks out. While I liked Clinton as a President, he did not "bend over ....." for the Republicans. He simply did what any president of 100% of the country must do. He compromised. Obama's unwillingness to do so is exactly why he is so terrible. A president must consider the 100%, not the 1% and not the 99%, but the 100%.
The theme at most homilies (sermons) should be "Dearest GO
Obama is unwilling to compromise? What is that a joke? You have not been paying attention my friend. Congress has a 10% approval rating for a reason. America is on top of this one and it is not Obama who is being accused of not compromising by anyone except the fringe right lunacy sector. If you were truly "in the middle", you most likely would not be pushing the indefensible right wing talking points.
in the middle-2260511
What you are in the middle of I am not exactly sure but it does sound as though you are in the middle of the NeoRight. Obama has done little on the economic, taxation and healthcare side but compromise and much to the chagrin of the liberal left in his party. Do you not recall how often the GOP voted against its own positions? That my friend is a true show of the unwillingness to compromise.
bcwc
Would today's GOP let Nixon, Reagan, Eisenhower in the party?
Interesting analysis, blackcat. The Republicans have moved so far right while the country has moved away from them on so many issues. Add that to the changes in demographics and you have to wonder how they can survive going forward.
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only if the USSR was still in play.
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They would not let Huntsman in.
yes, and it led to the dissolution of many of the safeguard regulations on the banking industry that led to the 2007 collapse. We need to reinstate Glass-Stegall and partition the commercial and investment banking communities. Next time the investment banks gamble recklessly, let them do it with their own money.
you know, the right might start seeing that their extremism is becoming painfully obvious when in a discussion a GOP person stands up and tells me "we are not all like that!". They are in a dilemma. And the racism becomes even more true, Mississippi church doesn't allow blacks to marry and you tell me the hate for Obama has nothing to do with race? Everyday you give us more evidence. Keep moving right, that's the only place you will find other people with your view, which is, MY WAY or NO WAY (or in other words "we hate democracy")
Would the Democrat Party of 2008 let Obama in the party? The way he's carried on Bush's anti-terrorist policies? You know, keeping Gitmo open, drone attacks, jail with no trials etc...
Anyway, you people's FALSE nostalgia of the Republicans-of-the-past is all BS. Back in the day of those people you mentioned, you same people and your ilk were calling them every name in the book and telling the rest of us they were facists, nazis and extremists and wetting your pants with fear. I remember. I was there. You're not fooling us, you dimwits. Maybe you should be asking yourselves what Truman, FDR, LBJ or JFK would be saying about the idea of a Black man in the White House. LOL. Not very pleased, I'm thinking.
#4.9
Huntsman was the best of the pack, but the TeaReTards didn't like him !!!
What's the Conclusion?
Almost a week ago, a seven (7) year old girl rebuts the Rombot campaign's latest tizzy over the President's truth telling. Elizabeth and Clara Sutton, prostituted by Fox "News" before they're old enough to conceive of political partisanship, admit that the President was right, it does take "help" to operate a business and you cannot do it by yourself. Ouch, rebuked by a 7 year old, if it mattered to Fox "News" it would probably hurt.
Irony is obviously unknown to Rombot supporters as they cite Saint Ronald of Reagan's economic growth without citing all of Saint Ronnie's tax raises. That's right, Saint Ronnie taxed his way out of that recession, but don't let those facts tax the artificial narrative that everybody did it on their own.
War-mongers mongering for war? Who would have thought it? The war pigs snuffling in the Rombot's wake certainly weren't shy about using Israel support their "forever war" agenda. Hopeful to find the truffle of profits in a forest of human misery, Rombot supporters thump the tub for war against any of the browner peoples of the world. If it weren't so pathetic it would be stupid. The people who cried about helping Libya, now can't wait to go into Iran or Syria or whomever.
The conclusion, hypocrisy rules if you're Mittronic Rombot, from domestic to foreign policy and all the unreleased tax returns in between. Plus...
Rombot. Has. Nothing.
I'm curious about something....after all the "mormon bashing" on Mitt, why does that tired, old, SOS--Harry Reid (also very much a mormon, though totally contra to their doctrine), get a complete pass? Could it be that the Left truly is as hypocritical as claimed by the Right? Hmmmm
The "Tearetards" didn't like Huntsman because he was Obama's ambassador to China. Besides he is one weird dude.
101 Tax Return Questions Mitt Romney Must Answer Before This PR Nightmare Goes Away for Him
TJ Walker
Romney’s answers might not ever satisfy the Obama Campaign, the Democrats or members of the media. But now, Romney is facing increased pressure from leading Republican politicians, conservative media outlets and the entire GOP establishment.
Thus far, Romney’s response that he is simply not going to give more than one or two years of tax returns to the public because he is not legally required to do so is not satisfying anyone. The essence of good damage control is that people feel like the big questions have been answered and that there is nothing very interesting left to discuss.
Liberals, Media, & Republicans
50. You have taken a brutal pounding for more than a week over your refusal to release your tax returns, not only from the Obama campaign and the mainstream media, but also from conservative commentators and leading Republicans. Can you understand why many political observers conclude you must have horrible skeletons and political landmines hidden within your tax returns that are much more politically damaging than the pounding you are receiving for not releasing your tax returns?
51. Do you understand why this scares your supporters?
52. And do you understand why this is fomenting even more interest in your tax returns?
53. George Will, Ron Paul and the editors of National Review have all called on you to release your tax returns. Are they all simply liberal media establishment types carrying water for Obama?
54. Are liberals and their allies in the media focusing on the wrong thing?
55. Why are increasing numbers of prominent conservatives demanding that you release your tax records?
Bain Capital
56. People are curious as to how you could have absolutely “no role whatsoever” in running Bain capital from 2000-2002 and yet still get an income each year in excess of $100,000 that is not connected to profits or dividends. Can you understand why people might want to know how much you received for not doing any work?
57. Even though you “had no role whatsoever” in running Bain Capital in 2000 what salary did you receive for doing no work?
58. If the wealthiest of Americans are “job creators,” why tax them at all?
59. Wouldn’t it be a net gain to the economy if we reduced income taxes to zero for successful business people who have proven track records as “job creators?”
60. Is there anything in your tax returns that will tell us more about your Bain retirement IRA?
61. How did it get to be worth $100 million?
Net Worth
62. You are known as a brilliant investor and yet you were reported to have a net worth of around a quarter of a billion dollars when you were running for president four years ago and you are still rumored to be worth a quarter of a billion dollars today. How is it possible that you did not have a major increase in your net worth during the last four years?
63. Your campaign is largely premised on your competency as a successful businessman. As a bottom line businessman, and not a community organizer, can you respect people’s desires to want to measure you, at least partially, by what you generated for your own personal bottom line during the last decade or so?
64. Some critics have suggested that Obama clearly has not had much experience in the private sector and that it shows. However, some of those same critics suggest that you really do not have much relevant experience in the public sector and your inability to understand the need to be transparent on issues like your personal tax returns is a clear sign of this. Why do you agree with the first observation and not the second?
65. You are rich and successful, why are you seemingly ashamed to show people how successful you have been in managing your own personal economy via your income tax returns from the last decade?
66. Isn’t your reluctance to show your income over the last ten years a de facto concession to the idea that making money and generating wealth are bad things?
67. Why are you ashamed of the money you have made?
68. Are you worried that you are sending a message to American schoolchildren that they should be ashamed of being successful in business?
69. Unlike other past Presidential candidates, you have Swiss bank accounts and other financial instruments in various offshore islands known for legal and even illegal tax shelters, like the Cayman Islands. Can you understand why this has heightened people’s interest in your own personal tax history?
70. Why have you used so many financial institutions better known for their secrecy than for their financial acumen?
71. Do you find most American banks lacking the level of sophistication you require?
72. Some theorize that you are actually a billionaire many times over and that you have created an elaborate network of generation-skipping trust funds to shield your wealth. Why can’t you show the entirety of the wealth you have created over your lifetime, even if you have already given it to your wife, children and grandchildren?
73. Kennedy, Roosevelt and John Kerry were all personally very wealthy when they ran for president, but none of them ran on a platform to reduce income taxes on the wealthiest of Americans, including themselves and their extended families. Given that your public policy goals for taxation would personally benefit you immensely, can you see why people are more interested in your taxes, than, say, John Kerry’s tax returns?
Percent of Income
74. You were one of the most brilliant students of your generation, earning a spot in Harvard’s prestigious joint degree program in its law and business schools. Did you fully exploit, in a legal way, your knowledge of both business and law to figure out a way of paying very low taxes, say in the single digits, during the last 10 years?
75. What is wrong with making lots of money and paying 15 percent tax?
76. When your enemies guess that you paid nothing in taxes in some years, is it a fair guess that this just might be accurate?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tjwalker/2012/07/24/101-tax-return-questions-mitt-romney-must-answer-before-this-pr-nightmare-goes-away-for-him/4/
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To paraphrase a commercial that is quickly becoming familiar.
“It’s alright to admit that Ol’ Willard is a bad candidate for President.”
After all you’ll Yahoo’s didn’t have much to choose from but how is that the fault of We the People who have to put up with this Bushra till November.
It took Hussein what, 3 years to prove he was born in the US? Maybe Romney can divulge his tax returns after he's been in office a while.
IR, wowsers.
Romney is someone who has to figure out HOW TO LIE ABOUT THE LIE.
No, it was proven when Hawaii verified his birth when he registered to run for office, but that doesn't stop you dumbasses from still trying does it Damage?
Romney told ABC that Americans wouldn't want a President who paid more taxes than he/she was legally required to pay......except Romney has millions stashed off-shore to AVOID paying taxes. Why would Americans want a President who claims to love his country and sings "America the Beautiful" while stashing millions in off-shore tax havens thus depriving the country he claims to love of funds for education, infrastructure, military defense spending, etc. Doesn't matter if it is legal, it raises a moral and ethical question about Romney. Warren Buffet and other multi-million/billionaires keep their cash in the US and pay taxes on it. Voters could bet money that Romney will not remove the tax loopholes that make his off-shore tax havens legal, he will not propose any policy which would not lower his taxes even more. It's why Mitt calls the Ryan Budget "marvelous."
damage The most of us already knew that the President is a American. Only a small bunch of people spent allot of time & money looking like a$$holes saying he was not.
"It took Hussein what, 3 years to prove he was born in the US?"
Only to people like you. (And I'm guessing you still don't believe it, otherwise you wouldn't be referring to him as "Hussein" or posting things like "We need an AMERICAN president back in the White House" as you did below). The rest of the country - including the Clinton and McCain campaigns in 2008 - had it figured out and they moved on a long, long time ago.
IR -- Romney was rejected how many times by Republicans??? It's very telling that he's their nominee. It says Republicans are that desperate these days.
Haven't you noticed, blackcat? Our "new enemies" are rich and successfuL FELLOW Americans. That's who Obama has decided should be the target of our hatred and resentment. And you mindless, blind, simple-minded sheep follow right along.
Now that you've made your rant Damage, go back over to Liar Limbaugh and lying Fox to get your next talking point to follow along with. You lemmings are so predictable.
Damage123
Far too all encompassing Damage. It is the Right who reclassified the wealthy as a class: The Job Creators. The Left only has a fight with those who gained their wealth by impoverishing others through any and all means available to themselves.
damage And you mindless, blind simple-minded sheep follow right along. Yes these words of wisdom are coming from a man who has to have someone tell him what to think. Did your mom tell you from upstairs what to write?
Warren Buffett is the second richest man in America, and he supports President Obama. There are patriotic 1%'ers, and then there are the loathsome polluters who support Romney.
No kidding Amy. Compare Warren Buffett with Sheldon Aldeson or the Koch brothers.
It baffles me how self described "intellegent liberals" (what a joke that is, id say ignorant) could actually BELIEVE the following
obama is super intelligent. blocked all grades and any writings and was obviously a "token" appointment to the law review
his birth certificate is forged. calling people birthers and stupid is just plain ignorant.
his mothers passport, as well as his, records are DELETED during time of his birth (look it up)
never had a girlfriend, even though most women think hes attractive (even his book had a "composite " girlfriend
he took money to write a law book, and wrote one about himself TWICE!!! what a narcissist
decides to take liberties away by enslaving them to lifetime payments to the govt, regardless if you can afford it. that is slavery of the people at its best
to listen to the communist in chief talk about redistribution of wealth, and not be completely offended by the premise.
HOLY CRAP! half the population is ALREADY recieving govt assistance. baby boomers are retiring at TEN THOUSAND PER DAY!!! WHO THE F IS GONNA PAY FOR ALL THIS HEALTHCARE, AND GOVT PROGRAMS YA DOPES!?
romney made hundreds of millions. let him guide us all 300 million plus americans to REDICULOUS prosperity on the backs of the rest of the socialist slaves throughout the world.
VOTE FREEDOM
VOTE ROMNEY
Question: If I go to the Caymen's on a vacation, can I open an account there?
Damage123
It took Hussein what, 3 years to prove he was born in the US? Maybe Romney can divulge his tax returns after he's been in office a while.
Brain Damage123
Surprise Willard the "Rat" has already said -- He will release an additional year of returns before Election Day.
Another Mitt-astrophe; w hat is Mitt hiding?
4morefor44
Definitely Obama/Biden
So Amy, one is only patriotic if they support and vote for Obama?
That is quite an interesting take.
So I guess roughly 50% of the country is unpatriotic?
rightisright Damn if bull$#it were gold you would be richer than Rmoney. Your line "let him guide us all 300 million plus americans to REDICULOUS prosperity........... That statement just is not going to happen even if Rmoney gets elected. By the way before you call people DOPES you should check your spelling. It is RIDICULOUS that you didn't check your spelling. Come on if right is right you need to spell.
rightisright - where to begin... well, there is no point in trying to convince you of the errors of your statements due to the wizards first rule. as such, let me just state you're an idiot who propagates lies and misinformation, unless you're getting paid to post such drivel... i hope you're just getting paid...
white collar auto Where did you get patriotism out of Amy's post. Funny how you righties use the patriotic card when you can't find a answer good enough to respond.
Smitty, try checking your punctuation and grammar. If right is right.........................
White COllar, can you read? Or do you simple make things up?
Smitty, use a question mark after an interrogative. Punctuation Smitty. It is as important as spelling.
Good morning Jody
Romney told ABC that Americans wouldn't want a President who paid more taxes than he/she was legally required to pay....
Jody,
R-money will say anything. If his pollsters tell him American disagree with that statement he'll flip again. He loves flipping. He would do well if were in the gymnastics in the London Olympics.
Snow,
Please eat the apple. Eat the whole apple, not just one bite.
Phine,
Thank you for being such a loving Christian example. You are pointing me to God as we speak.
snow jackson Got me. You are right. Would you please check all the rest of the posts for proper punctuation? I don't want to be the only one here with bad punctuation. Would you please post all the mistakes you find? Thank You. Now that I think about this you were my english teacher in school.
Annie's #77MIL Therapy horse beats IRS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a theory.
At some point Romney's Tax records will be "leaked" to the press.
These documents will or will not be genuine.
They will be bad; so bad of course that Romney will be Forced to provide the legitimate ones.
Anyone up to that challenge?
Hi. Im a liberal. I sit on my computer with the other paid journalists convincing the public to let our govt enslave them.
When anyone posts anything contrary to my beliefs, i will insult them, and at the very least, tell them to correct their grammar.
I certainly wont rebut, because i cant, because mybeliefs are shallow and proven to fail.
ROMNEY 2012
I would like to LEARN more about the other person running for President as well. Obama should have to release all his records as well. No reason for a person running for Pesident to have any record sealed. Both Mitt and Obama should have to release all their records. I saw an ad on TV that said Obama even has a Conn social security number. Thats information that if true we need to know about both candidates. Im not just going to require Mitt to show his records and not Obama that would not be fair at all.
Actually rightisright, it's that your points are full of vitriol and falsehoods. They've been disproved before and very few folks have the patience to be continuously and endlessly rebutting them.
But just for you this one time:
"obama is super intelligent. blocked all grades and any writings and was obviously a "token" appointment to the law review" (University policies routinely block records from being provided to the public. It's called "the right to privacy." The comment about "token" appointment is pure opinion, speculation and unsubstantiated.)
"his birth certificate is forged. calling people birthers and stupid is just plain ignorant." (A lie: http ://www .snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp. and http :// factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/ . Regarding calling people birthers and stupid - persisting in believing a lie when it's been disproven many times IS stupid.)
"his mothers passport, as well as his, records are DELETED during time of his birth (look it up)" (Again more lies: http ://www . scribd.com/doc/35161730/Stanley-Ann-Dunham-Obama-Soetoro-Passport-Application-File-Strunk-v-Dept-of-State-FOIA-Release-FINAL-7-29-10 and http ://www .scribd.com/doc/35192432/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10 )
"never had a girlfriend, even though most women think hes attractive" (Even if true, so what? This has nothing to do with his Presidency and he is married and has two daughters.)
"he took money to write a law book, and wrote one about himself TWICE!!! what a narcissist" (again, so what? I suppose making money writing books is illegal? And teh statement on narcissism is again opinion.)
"decides to take liberties away by enslaving them to lifetime payments to the govt, regardless if you can afford it. that is slavery of the people at its best" (I'm guessing you are referring to PPACA here. Try going to read the law. If you can't afford the insurance due to true financial situations, then you can get federal supplements to assist you. If you can afford it and choose not to, pay a tax you and quit freeloading of the rest of us.)
"to listen to the communist in chief talk about redistribution of wealth, and not be completely offended by the premise." (do we even need to refute another biased, unsubstantiated, and vitriol laden opinion?)
"HOLY CRAP! half the population is ALREADY recieving govt assistance. baby boomers are retiring at TEN THOUSAND PER DAY!!! WHO THE F IS GONNA PAY FOR ALL THIS HEALTHCARE, AND GOVT PROGRAMS YA DOPES!?" (Baby boomers that are retiring have paid into their own SS and many have retirement accounts beyoind that. Many folks are receiving gov't assistance due to macro economic conditions. They also pay federal and state taxes through food, utility, and gasoline purchases. YOU SIR are receiving services and assistance from government programs assocaited with telephones, internet, water, wastewater, homeowners insurance, FDIC, and other programs. How about giving those up?)
"romney made hundreds of millions. let him guide us all 300 million plus americans to REDICULOUS prosperity on the backs of the rest of the socialist slaves throughout the world." (First, socialist are not slaves - oddly enough there is a difference in spite of what you apparently think. Secondly, to make an assumption that one man can guide ALL Alericans to prosperity is neither economically nor realistically feasible. Third, in case you haven't noticed the world economy has issues right now. The US economy is part of the global economy. )
Now good luck to you and PLEASE do your research before posting speaking unsubstantiated, opinionated, and false points.
My apologies for the typo. Should read "All Americans" in the next to last paragraph.
rightisright you do realize that grades are kept private by the schools, right, and the fact that the state of Hawaii said his birth certificate was legitimate? So we just let the baby boomers stuggle with retirement cause you don't want to help pay? the only people Romney would lead into prosperity are the Koch brothers and all the other rich cronies that he works for.
the fact that you call Obama a communist proves how delusional you are, and yes what this country needs is a redistribution of wealth cause 40% of the country is in poverty while .01% is sitting on trillions and are making record profits but do you see them making jobs with that money no because that whole the rich are the job creators thing is bull@!$%# its the middle class and consumer that creates jobs not the business owners because they are the ones that create demand and demand creates jobs because someone has to make the supply side of the economy. Christ all you need to do to disprove that rich are job creators crap is look at what caused the first great depression. same then as it was when this one started a small super rich minority and the rest of the country is full of a poverty stricken majority who even though they worked hard received hardly any pay for it.
So please stop with your lieing bull@!$%# and go think an original thought for once instead of what limbaugh and beck tell you to think.
name1, Second that !!!
Vice President Al Gore delivered a stinging rebuke of Bush's tax-cut plan during Election 2000. He called it a "redistribution of wealth" that amounted to ''class warfare" on behalf of billionaires. Do those two terms ring a bell with any of us today? Gore said Mr. Bush's proposed $1.3 trillion tax cut would be a disaster for the economy and ''potentially devastating for America's families and American businesses.''
Such eerily prophetic words were spoken without the knowledge that President Bush would also engage the nation in two very costly simultaneous wars. He "charged" all of the tremendous costs of those wars on our newly issued Chinese credit card and withheld them from our federal budget. Of course, our debt ceiling had to be raised several times with full republican congressional support. When Vice-President Cheney(the engineer of the coming train wreck) was asked about America's rapidly escalating debt, he smugly replied that, "Deficits don't matter." Nary a whimper of objection from any of the Republican leadership. The last two years of the Bush administration witnessed the "economic disaster" that Al Gore had foretold so many years before; the second worst economic collapse in American history that threatened to rival The Great Depression.
The American electorate soundly threw the Republican party out of power in election 2008. The Republican leadership instantly convened a secret meeting to devise ways to assure that then President-elect Obama would be a one term president. Republican leader Senator O'Connell later publicly stated that effort would be the Republican's number one goal. They were true to their word and obstructed every move our duly elected president presented in efforts to restore our economy ( no matter the damning consequences to the struggling American people). Thankfully, President Obama's persistance (and a very brief time period of a fillibuster proof Democratic majority) allowed him to pull this nation back from the brink of financial ruin. It allowed him to start us on the path to prosperity.
The Republican leadership played on the frailty of human nature to demand instant gratification during the mid-term election campaigns. They excitedly pointed fingers of blame at President Obama and the democratic leadership for our slow, but steady progress. They fiercely denied that their own constant obstructionism was what kept us at a snails pace. They faithfully swore and promised that they would focus only on jobs, jobs, jobs if the American electorate would return them to power in Congress. We gave them the House of Representatives.
All of those promises were promptly abandoned on the morning of Wednesday, November 3, 2010. The day after the election. They later passed many bills promoting more tax cuts for the wealthy, removing environmental regulations on big business, prohibiting women's right to choose and denying gay rights. They stretched even the most vivid imaginations by calling all of these jobs bills. They wasted taxpayer dollars and valuable time in the House on futile bills while knowing the bills would never pass the Senate, much less reach the President's desk for the veto pen. More obstuctionism to fulfil their only goal.
Merely weeks after being sworn into office, their new battle cry became horrors of the national debt and the deficit to deflect attention away from their empty promises of jobs, jobs, jobs. They brazenly used blackmail before raising the debt ceiling one more time as they had done many times for the previous Republican administration. Their actions caused the U.S. credit rating to be knocked down a notch because of the threat of not paying our bills. Once again, they busily point fingers and falsely accuse the President for our now damaged credit rating that will unneccessarily cost us billions we can ill afford in our hour of need. Get ready for round two of the same old b.s.
Romney is presented as their best hope to take back the presidency in election 2012 after a republican primary season that most resembled a comedic Broadway play. Mel Brooks or Woody Allen would have been proud to produce such an entertaining show. Yes, the same Romney that was yanked off the stage as the 2008 vice presidential nominee for.......wait for it...........Sara Palin! Yes, the same Romney that is now "severely conservative" and against many of the policies he often championed in the past. The Romney that surrounds himself with leftovers from the disasterous Bush administration as his closest advisors. The Romney that embraces Dick Cheney and promises that the same old Bush failed policies will now bring us prosperity.
Electing Romney as the next President of the United States would be the perfect ending for a typical off-beat Woody Allen comedy production. It would surely bring down the house. The Whitehouse, the House of Representatives and the house of cards now called the Republican party. It would be hilarious if it weren't so very serious. Let's all settle down and not do this under any circumstances.
thanks matthew for putting the links to the facts. the passport records were destroyed, like the rest of the commie and chiefs records.
your smug attitude doesnt distract from your bloviating, wishing i wasnt right.
i cant believe you libs dont look at the corruption from the murderer in chief.
bye obozo. you suck, and youre a criminal, like all your friends.
The criminal is Romney. He struts around in the lie that he is self-made man. The truth is that he got a hell of a jump start with his father's millions that many of us could never imagine. He twisted that fortune to extort millions more from hard working American people as he sold all of us out. That's why he refuses to show his tax returns. A self-made man would proudly show others exactly how he made his fortune. Only a thief, hiding in the shadows, would fear and refuse to step into broad day-light.
By his deeds, a man shall be known. Romney uses tax dodges and overseas accounts to disguise his deeds. His great fortune was only made at the suffering and destruction of those hard working American people that struggled their entire lives to better themselves.
Jesus said, " And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Why did He say that? Wealthy men throughout history gained great wealth by gathering the fruits of labor from many ordinary hard working people of average means and leaving them destitute.
That does not describe all rich people. Some of them remember their humble beginnings and become benefactors to those in need. Others cleverly bury their ill-gotten treasure much like pirates of old. Romney's steadfast refusal to release his tax returns clearly places him in the company of the latter. More than enough is known of his business practices to make the last statement indisputable. Why would anyone, other than a fool, wish to make him the next leader of the free world?
We need an AMERICAN president back in the White House. One that doesn't diss our allies. One that doesn't diss Churchill. One that doesn't eat dogs and punish the successful. By the way, we need to remind the people receiving all those food stamps Obama is handing out while they drive new SUVs; "you didn't buy that, WE did."
YOU need a lobotomy! Assuming that you haven't already had one!
Damage123
I note that thought control works well on you.
That's right, blackcat. Without someone telling me what to think, I wouldn't have athing to say. In fact, if everyone were as smart as you and your cats (probably don't) think you are, we'd all be liberals! How great would that be? No more wars. No more hunger. No more poverty. No more Christians. All the world would love us!
Perhaps you should stop masturbating to trannies Damaged.
@ Ruken I see your suspension didn't clean up your mouth.
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damage Without someone telling me what to think, I would 't have a thing to say.
damage Well that explains it.
Mitt the Bully's extolling Jewish culture as an explanation of the GDP difference between Jewish and Palestine states is analogous to the white supremacist asserting that blacks in America are poor because they lack a positive culture.
The Palestinian culture has suffered under a lifetime of economic and political servitude to their Jewish masters. It is insulting and insensitive to equate an economic collar to cultural differences.
I don't know who this "Ruken" is, but obviously he/she was suspended for filthy language----and, of course, all the Liberals worship such foul conduct. Thanks for convincing decent America why no one should give any Lib the time of day....
IRS will perform tax audits. A lot of them are random. Romney's being audited is meaningless. HOWEVER, it does not excuse him from releasing tax returns.
Also, the IRS doesn't have the resources to go after someone like Willard Mitt-Wit Romney. They may had attempted an audit and in end the money he has wins out in the battle.
An audit done more than 10 years ago doesn't tell us anything about what happened during the ensuing 10 years. For example, Mitt might not have had the dressage horse 10 years ago but he deducted over $70,000 in expenses related to it as a business loss but then told us it was a therapy horse for his wife. Well--which was it? What else is going on in those returns that might differ from what Mitt is saying in public?
JOB 1
'Tis the golden rule "He who has the gold, rules" That describes life in the good old USA today.
As your tax returns are your business, so are Romney's. They're none of your business. If the IRS thought he did something illegal, you'd know about. Find something else to whine about. Like your lying, worthless, Nobel winning windbag of a president.
Funny how the Left is screaming for Romney's tax returns, while allowing a foreigner like BO a complete pass in being forthright with the American people (I forgot the count on "back-room deals" authored by this administration)......but then again, he stacked those cards in his favor in the beginning by putting another criminal in charge of the DOJ, now didn't he?
None of this will deflect attention away from the economy. Nice try. Good luck. The commie is gone.
Just remember, "you didn't build that", Obama did.
lollllllllllllllll
Remember you didn't tell that lie, bifferGovtIsTheanswer did. Keep up the good work tea people, the more lies you tell the better for us Democratic Liberals.
@ Mo-681343: "the more lies you tell the better for us Democratic Liberals."
Precisely....that's why you'll be gone in January 2013.....we're lying about nothing other than "we think Obama is a good American---he just has another way of showing it".....
Ode to Obama....see ya later alligator!
Poland? Lech Wałęsa?
Hey, isn't Poland the home of Solidarność founded by Lech Wałęsa? You know, that movement where a UNION worked to bring down a totalitarian regime?
Ooooo...evil, wicked, nasty unions!!!
Tsk tsk Pizza Boy. Unions are great when they are up against a system that REALLY IS EVIL and oppressive. Unions in the USA in 2012 that fight tooth and nail to make sure their members have to do the least amount of work possible for the most $$$ possible? Not so great.
DaNoid,
Solidarity became the flashpoint in the breakup of Eastern Europe under the control of the Soviet Union.
It had nothing to do with business creators taking a stand. It had eveything to do with a union movement supported by the religious institutions that came out from the underground to say "enough" to the repressive regime they had lived under for so many years.
Looks like damage didn't have the skills to land that union job. Still bitter huh?
Hey Harry!
Just can't help yourself can ya? lol
Tick...tock...
Looks like you hit the nail on the head Frank. Both Damage and youraloser didn't have the skills or education to land a union job and they're both pissed. but have heart guys, if not for the unions you two wouldn't have those minimum wage jobs you have, you'd be working for .50 cents an hour.
Does anyone else, besides me, think that folks have lost the art of studying and learning from history?
phine--totally agree. Too much revisionist history in sound bites does not result in an understanding of the past! Also--cutting education and dumbing down the population, demonizing educators and education as elitist only adds to the problem.
"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly
All Romney has to say...
I'm not Ocommie... he wins.
Who is "Ocommie"?
Obamie da Commie
Who?
Republicans don't build infrastructure, they give the money back to the wealthiest who construct mcmansions in the wilderness, that firefighters then have to expend their efforts saving from wildfires.
The dug out Romney's folded prayer stuck in the wailing wall. It read "Please God don't give me the urges to baptize all these living Jews like our church does dead ones, 2nd please let me get through this international BS tour where I have to pretend to be nice. 3rd, Thank you for pulling my foot out of my mouth each night". Amen......
Seven2Seven, good one!
Don't forget this little gem:
Obama smiled and interjected, "Shovel-ready was not as ... uh .. shovel-ready as we expected." The Council, led by GE's Jeffrey Immelt, erupted in laughter.
All while Jeffery Inmelt send his companies divisions to China putting Wisconsin x-ray division workers out of a job and Tennessee light factory workers on the street. BUT he heads Obama's job commission to come up with ways to create American jobs. Talk about 2 faced.
I wonder if Romney gave the Queen some DVDs.
Maybe boyz in da hood. lolllllllllllll
That classy president of ours.
I think we need another biased NBC\WSJ poll so we can pretend like Obama has a chance. lollll
Uh, you do know who owns the WSJ, yes?
i couldn't give a sh!t if GOD owns it, it's a biased POS.
July 30, 2012
This tight one is starting to open up a little bit more in favor of Obama. So, my current Projection: (Currently the states that will continue to play the biggest in November are Michigan, Ohio, Virginia, and Florida and Wisconsin. For now these states are remaining in the toss up status, while some leaning toward Obama. However, if the election were held today, Obama would win the general.
The key months for this race are going to be September and October. And as far as the debates, Romney most likely will have a problem in this area, along with his lack of availability to the press/media.
Another issue that will hurt Romney is the battle being waged by the President to raise the taxes on folks earning more than $250,000 a year. This is something that the majority of Americans are for and Romney is against.
For now the biggest problem for Romany is his record at Bain and the fact that he is hiding something with his failure to release his tax returns.
The projected election Electoral Vote out come totals are:
Electoral Vote:
Projected Winner Obama 293
Projected Loser Romney 245
"i couldn't give a sh!t if GOD owns it, it's a biased POS."
In other words, Da Noid, he doesn't have a clue. Do you think if he knew it was Rupert Murdoch and Newscorp he might stop listening to that other little outfit they also own? You know, the "Barely Fair and Mostly Unbalanced" one?
Well, it is owned by Rupert Murdoch...and the GOP seems to think he's God.
JoAnne in PA, you give Fox way to much credit. They are never fair and always unbalanced, you know the tea people Koch republican propaganda machine. Oh and all their commentators are unbalanced.
Gee Job1 keep drinking the kool aid.....it's about the economy stupid. Romney will win 55% Obama will come in at 45%. The polls you refer to do not consider everything. The media is pushing an Obama win and they fail to mention his utterly dismal record on the economy. The job reports are not going to get any better. The deficit for 2012 will be another 1.2Trillion which means he doubled the debt. more than all 43 other Presidents combined. If he gets reelected this country will dissolve and that is a fact.
What amazes so many, is the fact that this foolish man, Willard Mitt-Wit Romney the talking lying buffoon, is the Republican choice for President of the United States. You people really sit your bar low.
OBAMA / BIDEN 2012---STILL CLEANING UP BUSH'S MESS!!!
You've got to blame sometone for Obama's failures, I guess Bush will work.
Obama's black, he won't be taking responsiblity for anything.
Spoken like a true tea bagger!
What's the death count in the gun controlled city of Chicago this weekned blow job 1?
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Job1
The news from Maine is that the Republican Party is bringing a lawsuit that alleges Ron Paul delegates took over Maine's convention illegally. Maine's elite Republicans are trying to bar Ron Paul delegates from being seated!
What are Republican leaders afraid of? Do they really think Ron Paul is that big of a threat to Romney they are willing to estrange his supporters from the Republican Party?
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/07/28/politics/challenge-to-election-of-ron-paul-delegates-to-gop-convention-filed/
Hi Amy,
I think that the Republican leaders are worried about what is coming out about Willard Mitt-Wit Romney next.
At what point will Obama ever claim responsibility for HIS economy....let me guess, right after he gets reelected. I got the blame Bush response in year one but geez we are in year 4. But I forgot, personal accountability is not a Democrat party principle.
At what point will you actually figure out the legislative process?
At what point will you actually figure out the legislative process?
It would be nice if Obama could figure it out.
Obama and Biden are totally incompetent when it comes to running this country. All they are capable of doing is campaigning and talking out of both sides of their mouth.
Looks like Romney was right about the London Olympics since the seats are empty and the Security firm that was hired failed to come up with the number of personnel they promised.
NOBAMA2012!
How funny is that. 100 of empy seats and you can't buy a ticket anywhere.
Hey, you dumb yo yo's. The IOC gives out the tickets to the events (not the London people).
Blackcatwhitecat,
You are so right.(sic)!
The GOP are always looking for fear in all the wrong places.
Some day all the old Cold War romantics will be dead. Hope the younger generation will have a differetn world view.
that OWS younger generations is the laziest group of fuks i've ever seen.
Kinda like you Jason? Keep re-registering accounts to troll an internet site.
*waves to Ruken*
Welcome back!
Don't go wandering off the reservation again... ya hear! ☺
Can't stop free speech no matter how hard you try demofukup.
Hey, it's Feisty.
let's see how long it takes her to ban me.
then i can create another account.
lollllllllllll
Free speech doesn't apply to privately owned internet websites. You'd know that if you weren't a f*cking idiot.
fuk off little b!thch.
Aww...don't be mad Jason, your idiocy is most likely genetic. Your parents were obviously dumbsh*ts too.
Amen to that Ruken.
And yours comes from your upbringing. It must have sucked to be Jerry Sandusky's liltte boy.
Hm...so he turns the conversation into one about pedophiles.
What do you think Job1? Did his daddy touch him a little too much?
Now, now baby sandusky, slurp - gulp - bend over.
Ah, so you do like to putt from the rough.
It's people like "bigger..." (aka Jason) who scare the daylights out of me. Thanks goodness the FBI can post its 10 Most Wanted in the Post Office.
You think I'm scary, just wait until all my capital and those of the nasty 1% are in off shore accounts. Once the few that pay taxes are gone, we shall see what scary really looks like. Good luck.
Oh noes! We'll really miss your over-drafted checking account.
Isn't it interesting how the "We Support The Troops" leftwingers cheer on people like Ruken who say that our military is made up of stupid rednecks who just wanna "murder" people? He sounds like Obama's friend, Bill Ayers. If the lefties showed ONE TENTH of the hatred they show toward Christians, our military, and George W. Bush, toward the Islamofacists, the dirty buggers would all be dead now. But the left is INCAPABLE of showing rage and hatred toward our enemies. Always have been. Deep down, many of them often SIDE with the enemy or, at least sympathize with many of their views. By the way, how does Islam feel about gay marriage?
Isn't it interesting to see how people cheer "people" like Damaged too f*cking stupid to realize that Christianity isn't a religion?
Poor Ruken- Shouldn't you be out looking for a job? Don't gimme that "I'm retired" crap. Old people don't use the language you do. I mean, even if you were out stealing cars and burglarizing houses like 6 or 7 of your mama's other children, we'd have more respect for you. At least you'd be making some money and not sitting around all day sucking up $$$ from the taxpayer.
Maybe you could join the army! Try spouting some of your anti-US Military/anti-American nonsense there, maybe. You'd be a big hit.
LOL! The hypocrisy...
LMFAO! I pay at least 3x in income tax as you do. Of course being the uneducated freak you are, that's not entirely unexpected.
Yeah Damage don't forget Ruken has a SIGMA CUM LAUDA degree!~~
That still cracks me up, dude can't even make up phony degrees that exist and he expects us to believe he has a job.
What.A. Loser.
damage I said this before the best part of you ran down her leg when she got up to go to the bathroom.
Willard Mitt-Wit Romney is a very dangerous man. Let's remember 60% of his foreign policy advisors worked for Dick the war monger Cheney.
Dick the warmonger Cheney.
That's hilarious coming from you: an emotionally unstable f*ck too stupid to get a job. No wonder you get to live alone in a slum, spending your weekends trolling internet sites.
No self respecting individual wants anything to do with you. Quite hilarious, really.
@ biggerGovtIsTheAnswer
Hey, it's Feisty.
let's see how long it takes her to ban me.
then i can create another account.
lollllllllllll
Hey, biggerGovtIsTheAnswer, do you know how to "collapse" comments by yourself?? Send me the info! I could spend ALL of my time doin that to the Left! *wink* Then again, Feisty's no stranger to getting collapsed on any forum!
I love how Romney is out beating the war drums against Iran ...claims he will strenghten the military and add billions to the defense budget including building (30) new war ships and then when asked how he will pay for it or what existing programs he will cut says nothing.
All this guy is is another George W.Bush ass-hole.
16 trillion in debt.
Obama, "I'll cut the defcit in half"
lollllllllllllllllllll
What a chimp your half breed has turned out to be.
Is that kinda sorta like saying.... "Read my lips....NO NEW TAXES" and (6) months later raising everyones taxes?
And what a chump this ass-holes son was....so much so ... Republicans will not even utter the name of GEORGE W. BUSH anymore.
"Obama's predecessor"...What a F-ucking joke. A 2 term President of the greatest country on earth who isn't even being asked to speak at the Republican GOP Convention !!
ROFLMFAO
11 trillion of which has Republicans names written all over it.
We shall see.
This is goning to be a landslide.
tick tock... tick tock
Mabye Obama can organize some more gang activity in Chicago
biggergovtistheanswer Why the hate? You on the right are the most hateful people in America! Just read your posts.
Dude, look up "Macaca Moment" and then tell me why you're not going to be around here very long.
Look what the democrats have done to this great land.
By the way, hate is a great weapon.
So your parents were Democrats?
biggergovtistheanswer Well you win the A$$HOLE of the day Award. It fits you well.
i always do.
As a Black American reading the comments of fellow Americans such as biggergovtisnotheanswer, I find it amazing how hating others is so apparent and condoned in this country. Even the story about a Black couple in Mississipppi, that could not be married in their own church because they are black is mind blowing in the 21st century. Please, please, please someone who is white tell me, do you want all black people to be killed? I am very sorry to be so blunt, but I do not and can not hate white poeple. You who continue to hate; it is only going to galvanize the minority vote in November. Do you realize that President Obama can win? and what will you do if he does?
Dennis, just ignore him. He's trying to troll you. It's the reason he went from the racist remarks to Sandusky-ing. He's trying to find something that will provoke an inflammatory response.
Dennis, I heard about the black couple in Mississippi who could not get married in the white church that they belonged to, even after their plans were already made.
A few of the white members of the church became so vocal/nasty about the issue, the pastor caved in to their racism and denied the couple the right to use the church!
Bigotry/Racism is alive!
Dennis, only the ignorant hate so much. Those white people (I'm also white) fear everything so they retreat like a beaten dog into their own hate-filled minds. Hopefully they will become a relic soon and the rest of humanity can continue on our path to enlightenment.
And Dennis - my kids who are respectful, honorable and intelligent people were raised to be "color-blind" and are raising their children in the same manner. Hopefully the racism that still exists will be gone with the next generation.
@ chilled: Dennis, I heard about the black couple in Mississippi who could not get married in the white church that they belonged to, even after their plans were already made.
A few of the white members of the church became so vocal/nasty about the issue, the pastor caved in to their racism and denied the couple the right to use the church!
Bigotry/Racism is alive!
And people like you KEEP IT ALIVE.,...you always have......you wouldn't know what to do with yourselves if "racism" ceased to exist. You and your ilk truly do represent what is decadent in society.
Amy B. Portland, ME
Romney certainly looks biblical, strolling around Jerusalem
Amy What strikes me are the LIES Willard says. If I had to see Willard I would think of him as Lucifer.
Do you think Obama looks like a chimp?
His ears are rally cute, like a baby monkey.
I would love to see Romney telling the JEWS that one day they will be confessing their sins to Joseph Smith.
That would be comical.
George Allen, is that you?
How about that little Mormon practice of baptizing Holocaust victims via proxy? I'll bet those in Isreal would love to see a story about that in their newspaper...Anne Frank herself was baptized this way.
biggerGovtIsTheAnswer
Do you think Obama looks like a chimp?
His ears are rally cute, like a baby monkey
No, biggerGovt
But, I think Mitt R-money resembles Pinocchio in many ways. Romney has a lot of his strings being pulled. Don't you think?
Why do you guys keep dissing Romney and keep giving Obama a pass? You're a joke when it comes to unbiased reporting. Noone except dems listen to you.
no matter what kind of gaffes Romney makes, he could not approach the ones Obama has made every time he visited or had anything to do with the UK. Think about giving the Queen DVDs that wouldn't play there. Think about the Churchhill statue. Think about giving recordings of his own speeches. How about the first lady touching the Queen? Anyway, it looks to me like everything Romney said aboutareas of concern with the Olympics was factually accurate and also being said in the British press that became so apoplectic.
Will someone give chuck a little bump?
The needle is stuck...
Yeah, but no one's needle is stuck like yours, nor stuck on a more inane, repetitive phrase.
Chuck, try reading and comprehending before you embarrass yourself like you did above.
The British press says otherwise. RomneyShambles, NitMitt, are just a few examples of the Brits pointing out the Romney gaffes. The British press didn't come anywhere near this type of coverage against Obama.
Romney only has a half a brain, that's why he has a split personality !!!!!!!!!
It looks like all of the liberals from elementary school are here (no wonder they don't learn anything in school---they stay up too late!).....guess that's it for intelligent conversation tonight.....I'm outta here......You Lefties continued with your orgy.....
Romney will bring competence back to the white house.
...by failing to get elected
George-749102
Romney will bring competence back to the white house.
No he won't George because Romney is not getting into the White House. BTW: You spelled competence incorrectly; it should have been spelled INCOMPETENCE!
Geez Detroit storm and Beverly I actually found tow bigger losers than Obama
Ruken,
We did leave the light on for you...
Welcome home.
:)
Glad to see you support such anti-American punks as Ruken, Northstar. He needs all the help he can get. So tell us, Northstar...Do YOU also believe that our troops are just bloodthirsty murderers? Wouldn't surprise me if you did.
Obama's Jewish vote will be down min. of 15% this year:) Roll Mitt Roll!!!!!!
the chimp in the WH is leaving. i can't wait. he's fuked up everything he's touched.
Keep telling yourself that.
Ruken- Run along boy. Uncle Jerry's waiting for your first conjugal visit.
And I see all you lily-livered, lefty collapse punks are still at it. I don't like to see people call Hussein a "chimp" either. I like to see people call him "Hussein." It's great to drive you hypocrites crazy by simply using the man's name. Also, I like to call him what he is...A Jug-Eared Socialist, anti-American mongoloid.
But if we dress him up like Aunt Jemimah, that would really make you hard wouldn't it?
FR:
Normally, I'd be for the batcrapcrazy candidate who in this case is Ted Cruz. With candidates like that, even unpopular Democrats in a Republican year can win. I call it the "Sharron Angle effect," although the "I am not witch O'Donnell effect" would also be a good name for it. But in Texas, the majority of voters are as crazy as the candidates, so I'd prefer Dewhurst, even though he's pretty repulsive, too.
Agree Houston......
Cruz is batcrapcrazy, as are the TeaPeople!....Hopefully, Dewhurst will send him packing and keep his agenda out of the US senate...
Obama/Biden 2012!
uaweeeee, i give a crap about romneys tax returns and so should you and everyone. what your saying is so what if he doesnt follow the rule and the laws, i want him to run the country. either your a member of the 1%, or stupid.
I'll give you a few minutes to deduce the massive amount of irony in this sentence.