Jindal sees 2012 contest between "very different visions of America"

Jamie Novogrod/NBC News

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal speaks with a Romney supporter in Coral Springs, Fla. Saturday.

CORAL SPRINGS, Fla. – Stumping for Mitt Romney in southern Florida Saturday, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal cast the presidential election in stark terms, hammering President Obama over a vision of America that he said pits people against each other and diminishes the contributions of individuals to the national economy.

“It was ‘Hope and Change’ four years ago,” Jindal said, referring to Obama’s 2008 campaign.  “Now it’s ‘Divide and Blame.’  Everything is somebody else’s fault.”


 Jindal, who is speculated to be on Romney’s vice presidential short list, delivered the remarks from the bed of a pickup truck parked outside a newly opened Republican “victory” office here in this suburb north of Fort Lauderdale.

The visit marked just one of several high-profile events this weekend, as top Romney supporters blitzed key swing states while the candidate continues his foreign trip. 

Others rumored to be on the short list – including former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Ohio Sen. Rob Portman – also held events Saturday.

Asked during an interview with NBC News Saturday whether the activity constitutes a nationwide weekend try-out, Jindal demurred. 

“No, our role continues to be to remind voters what the important issues are in this election,” he said.

Jindal, who supported Texas Gov. Rick Perry during the Republican Primary, has since defined himself as a disciplined flag-bearer for Romney who pounces readily on Obama.  He would not comment on speculation over whom Romney might choose as a running mate.

“This election is not about Joe Biden,” Jindal told NBC News.  “I think this election is really about the two guys running at the top of the ticket with their very, very different visions of America,” he added.

Speaking from the pickup truck to about 150 Romney supporters and local volunteers, Jindal called Obama a “good family man” before attacking the President over his “you didn’t build that” statement earlier this month.

The Obama campaign asserts the statement was merely a reference to how private business and public infrastructure are interconnected.

“How many times have we heard this?” Jindal told the crowd, drawing a parallel to another set of remarks by the President in June. “You remember a few weeks before that, he said, well, the private sector is doing just ‘fine?’  It’s the public sector we’ve got to worry about?”

 “I think it’s appropriate to point out that this President has very, very liberal views,” Jindal said later during his interview.  “He says them, and then when his campaign aides realize that they don’t poll well, they don’t test well in focus groups, they come out and try to apologize for them, or take them back.”

Before Jindal arrived, about a dozen volunteers worked a phone bank inside the office, calling voters with prepared questions measuring approval of the President.

 One volunteer, Rose Criscuola, of Margate, Fla., said they were calling listed Democrats in an effort to identify swing voters.  She reached several Obama supporters.

But next to her, another volunteer, John Scarpulla, also of Margate, said he reached one such swing voter. 

Scarpulla, a retired taxi owner from Queens, New York, complained between calls about the national debt.  He said he himself is a registered Democrat, though the last Democrat he supported for President was Bill Clinton.

Asked why he hasn’t changed his party affiliation, Scarpulla said he’s “too lazy.”

 “Actually,” he added, “I don’t change it because when I get a call from Democrats, I give them a piece of my mind.”

Jindal attended area fundraisers before and after his visit to the Republican victory office.

 

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Jindal is an moron who wants to be VP.

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#1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:40 AM EDT

Jindal might be on the other side, but he's not necessarily a moron. He's just a tool of the wealthy.

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#1.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:02 AM EDT

My vision of America doesn't include the DNC or RNC masters...we need a real choice, not a choice between the lesser of two evils

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#1.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:37 AM EDT

A tool of the wealthy might also be called a political prostitute. He did say one thing correct though. “I think this election is really about the two guys running at the top of the ticket with their very, very different visions of America,”.

Mitt Romney's vision is one of "corporations are people" and they will be pampered and own everything as he fires up another war to please the neocons. Whereas Obama is still trying to get the middle class back on its feet. Romney will exterminate the middle class. Obama is a boy scout compared to Rmoney.

  • 29 votes
#1.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:56 AM EDT

http://mrpheaniques.newsvine.com/_news/2012/07/03/12533401-the-ten-for-american-independents-day

If you are tired of two visions for America...Think outside the BOX...If not us, then who?...If not now, then when?

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:04 AM EDT

You miss the point. Romney has no vision for America other than what he has to say to get elected.

  • 24 votes
#1.5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:31 AM EDT

Jindal is about as visionary as my in laws. His GOP Convention Speech in 2008 was totally a bust. Poorly spoken, poorly delivered and poorly thought out. In short, He'd make a great VP for Mittens.

  • 18 votes
#1.6 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

I forgot! Mitt can lead the way with all the gaffes. They are perfect team!

  • 7 votes
#1.7 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

Not much of a choice.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:58 AM EDT

no, he is a very bad leader who wants to be president.

  • 5 votes
#1.9 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

“I think it’s appropriate to point out that this President has very, very liberal views,” Jindal said later during his interview. “He says them, and then when his campaign aides realize that they don’t poll well, they don’t test well in focus groups, they come out and try to apologize for them, or take them back.”

Absurd! Nothing could be further from the truth. When cons try to spin statements and make issue with words taken out of context, the president will then make clarification of his statements.

However, Romney himself is the one who said that there is nothing he could say/do that couldn't be changed with the use of an Etch-A-Sketch approach.

In other words, Jindal is trying to put the blame on Obama that Romney himself is guilty of doing.

But I did enjoy the fact that the article points out that Jindal spoke from the back of a pick-up truck to an audience of about 150 supporters/reporters. 150! That's not a crowd, that's a sad showing of a low number of people who pulled off the road to see if the man in the pick-up truck needed help to get back on the road!!

  • 20 votes
#1.10 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:55 AM EDT

Jindal was describing Mittens, in that statement nomoresameo, don't you think?

One thing is true: Jindal is right, Mittens and the President have very different views of this country. Mittens sees the 1% at the complete owners of the benefits of citizenship, with the rest of us available as servants.

If you vote for Mittens, you are voting to make yourself a part of the servant class.

  • 18 votes
#1.11 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

Jindal was describing Mittens, in that statement nomoresameo, don't you think?

Absolutely!

Your statement regarding the differing views of the country is spot on as well. If a con is elected president at this point we may as well get ourselves ready to become serfs. There will be one of the sharpest divisions of classes in this country than we could ever have imagined before this election.

  • 13 votes
#1.12 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:33 AM EDT

With the top1% now controlling 42% of the wealth this year over 40% last year it sure will. the haves create an new American aristocracy. Viva la France! Liberty, Fraternity and Equality! Get your guillotines ready!

  • 7 votes
#1.13 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

Jindal calls Obama a divider, when in fact the GOP has set forth on dividing America since Obama was inaugurated.

Two vision of America. Obama promotes and protects the middle class, whereas Romney promotes and protects the wealthy.

  • 13 votes
#1.14 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

Eric...The GOP has been dividing America for 3 decades. They actually STARTED the class warfare. They're just PO'd because the endangered middle class has begun to fight back. It's truly amazing that so many poor whites willingly lay down on the buffet table for the rich and the GOP to serve themselves up as dinner. It's even more amazing that with the GOP having been exposed with their conspiracy on Obama's inauguration night and their treasonous plan to tank our economy in order to blame it on Obama that so many still seem okay with not blaming the repugnicans for first destroying our economy and then preventing anyone from fixing it. I'm not sure that Obama could have fixed it, given that he had idiots like Summers and Geithner in charge, but we'll never know now, will we?

  • 6 votes
#1.15 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

The Republicans will tell any lies they have to to get the power back. Then it will be all for the rich and the rest can just bend over and take it.

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#1.16 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:47 AM EDT

I want no commie pres.

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#1.17 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:24 PM EDT

Nobody wants debt, a huge tax bill for healthcare, a 55% inheritance tax. Government must spend within its means. At least let the trigger go now, then do more. Adjust salaries for government workers in line with everyday people. If government workers want a pension let them pay for it. Cut the military. End all bribes to hostile governments. Get Obama's hands out of the Social Security fund. Bust the Fed. Test the gold bars at Fort Knox. If Bernanke has substituted phony bars and given Fort Knox gold to big banks, lock him up forever.

  • 7 votes
#1.18 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:34 PM EDT

Republicans never spend within their means, the last president to do that was Clinton. How can you spend within your means, when all you propose is to continually cut the revenue of the government, and increase military spending, there was absolutely no accounting for the cost of the two wars started by Bush. If you have bills to pay third grade math would indicate you need to increase your income not decrease it. How about that surplus handed to Bush, did he pay down the debt with it, no he did not he used it as justification that taxes where too high and mailed out checks. Republicans tell you that less taxes will lead to a balanced budget, that less birth control will lead to less abortions, what next will they will tell you that less fire extinguishers will lead to less fires. If you have a lick of common sense and choose to exercise that sense you simply cannot vote for their lunacy.

  • 6 votes
#1.19 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

Scott - aren't you fortunate, we have no "commie President." I don't believe anyone has called Romney a commie - since he is not. And, we all know our current President is not a "commie." Are you 10 years old or 80? Anyway, you're in luck as neither is a "commie."

Luckily our current President will do better after November when we get rid of a lot of the congressional GOP!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 7 votes
#1.20 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:45 PM EDT

Scott, you don't have one? You would prefer a member of a religious cult?

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#1.21 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

hh

    #1.22 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

    After Scott Walker was busted saying "divide and conquer" on video, I can't believe any Teapublican pulls the "divider" crap out of his butt.

    But how about that? I do agree with Jindal that the 2012 election will be a clear choice between our current president who has proved himself very worthy of four more years, and Romney the Poser who wants to double-down on the same failed GOP/Bush-era policies that got us into this mess in the first place.

    Hopefully voters will have the good sense not only to reelect the president, but just as importantly, give the president a congress that will work together and work with him on behalf of ALL the American people. Throw the Teapublicans out. The GOP/Romney -- They aren't in it for you.

    • 5 votes
    #1.23 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:02 PM EDT

    scott-579755

    "I want no commie pres."

    Me either-Romney 2012.

    • 3 votes
    #1.24 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

    Barbara,

    I don't either and we haven't and won't, but I don't want a member of a religious cult either. Obama 2012

    • 7 votes
    #1.25 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

    If Jindal's vision for America is the same as his speech at the republican't Convention I want nothing of boring, and favoring the rich!

    • 2 votes
    #1.26 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:53 AM EDT

    Well, just more mud slinging by the left.... and more class envy BS... which makes sense given Oblamo's track record...

    There are two visions... one, a huge restrictive oppressive govt controlling everything with 45% of the people carrying the rest... or a govt that's much smaller, less intrusive, and allows businesses to flourish and innovate, and forces deadbeats to go to work....

    • 5 votes
    #1.27 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:29 AM EDT

    Yeah right who's vision the Republicans who want to make everybody as poor as the morons living in Alabama and the rest of the south. No thanks i'll take my chances with a government for the people not the rich

    • 2 votes
    #1.28 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:40 AM EDT

    God help us from the republicans and the likes of Jindal and the cult member, Romney. Their only vision for America includes only the rich.

    • 1 vote
    #1.29 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:01 PM EDT

    FAMOUS LAST WORDS:

    "There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back," he began, defending his policy of higher tax rates on high earners. "They know they didn't -- look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

    "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

    BARRACK OBAMA -- Enough said....

    • 2 votes
    #1.30 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:20 AM EDT

    Reading the posts here proves jindal point, it's all about class warfare turning us against each other. As a former democrat who believed the lies and propaganda it amazes me how many see the republicans and rich as pure evil, are we a nation of soft minded people to be so easily brain washed? We're not even talking about the rich in the terms of what you've been programmed to envision the fat cat burning a hundred dollar bill that he himself did not earn to light a cigar. Does that sound about right, wrong the so called rich are people men and women with an idea trying to create something such as your beloved mp3 player or game console. These individuals put themselves at personal, financial, and professional risk to try and bring their ideas to life because they believe it can be beneficial to others, with luck the long hours and sacrifice are worth it and they become successful. The success of the business or company then allows the owner to create jobs and hire more people, provide bonuses, expand, help other companies by being consumers themselves on a larger level. Successful small to mid level companies sponsor local programs such as little leagues, while large companies are able to donate money to the maintaining and expanding the local library, college or hospital wing, support food banks and soup kitchens. Simply put the real rich embody the idea of spreading the wealth while politicians and government who do not create wealth or anything for that matter except maybe chaos have only one goal and that's to control the wealth so it can be used in their advantage. Why don't you google and tell me how two so called community organizers like obama and sharpton who've never worked a real job in their lives are so rich and what they do with it for the communities they say they represent or are they really in the taking business not the giving. The real threat to this country is the corruption of big government, this country was founded at the time of dictators and big fascist governments it is why america was called the new world and the reason to this day people risk their lives to leave their corrupt socialist countries to get here. One more thing to consider is that if the communist traitor in the white house got his way and was allowed to steal every penny from the so called rich at the current rate of spending it would last 8 days, and that's just to run the government hint hint gee wonder what's bankrupting the country. Some of you have deluded yourselves into thinking that you can have big government taking care of you without the fascist control well first the seat belt law that allows the government to fine you for not doing what your told proves that wrong chicago governor Rahm emanuel assault on a private company trying to bring jobs to chicago because they don't support HIS ideology sounds a little like swearing allegiance to the king, way to violate the first amendment. I hope Cathy & chick-fil-a take their jobs and walk away I mean why open in the most corrupt city of the most corrupt state in the first place, but any ways hopefully she'll sue for violating the nations most sacred and defining amendment. You gay people I really don't care about your special interest crap but you better know you're being used and manipulated, as long as you don't seek a real solution to this issue of marriage you are political slaves forced to vote for candidate whether you believe in the goals or not. That is what they do, they enslaved the blacks and the poor with entitlements that keep them ignorant and poor, the hispanic voters by breaking and ignoring the federal immigration laws, and they're intend is to enslave you by simply breaking the law and ignoring the definition of marriage rather than fixing the problem. It's up to you sell your soul for something stupid or stand as americans.

    • 1 vote
    #1.31 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

    Perfectly stated Democratnomore. Thanks for that. These posts just prove how Jindal was right. Obama is using laziness and jealousy to win over supporters. The hate for the rich is just jealousy raising its ugly head and Obama is using it to brainwash his supporters into believing the rich are evil. The "Rich" are the job creators, there is no question about that. But, yes they are also there to make money, just like everyone else in this country tries to do. Don't take this the wrong because I believe everyone should be paying more taxes, but only taxing the rich more will solve nothing. Taxes need to be raised across the board and spending should be cut. This is obvious to anyone that balances a simple check book, but since raising taxes and cutting government handouts is political suicide we won't see it happen.

    This is election is proving one thing to me. America is doomed because no one can think for themselves anymore. No one reads an issue and decides for themselves what is the right way and the wrong way, they just see which way their respective party leaders lean and follow. The hate on both sides of the aisle is disguisting and very sad. Our country need to grow up, especially the people on these news vines.

      #1.32 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:16 PM EDT

      Barbara and Scott, get it right! Obama is not a communist, he's a socialist!

        #1.33 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:07 PM EDT
        Reply

        Yes sir while his lap dogs Sen. Marco Rubio, Sen. Rob Portman, Gov. Bobby Jindal and Gov. Tim Pawlenty are here in the States telling you how wonderful Mitt is, he is overseas in private secret funds raising meetings in London with the Libor banksters and now in Israeli with the very people and banks that want to do this to America.

        Greek leaders agree bulk of austerity cuts-source

        http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/29/greece-crisis-idUSL6E8IS3S720120729

        Different message behind closed doors? Team Romney breaks protocol and bans press from Israeli fundraiser.

        http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/28/a-fund-raiser-behind-closed-doors/

        http://www.thenation.com/blog/168975/romney-goes-gold-londons-libor-village#

        If Romney wins we are literally handing over our country on a silver platter, to the top 1% and big banks that wants to do to America what they did to the rest of the world

        • 17 votes
        Reply#2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:55 AM EDT

        ranmarie

        This is Little Israel - Bush's appointments which Willard has embraced

        RE: LIST of Dual-Citizenship of So-Called Leaders.

        American / Isreali Dual Citizens in the American Government

        Attorney General - Michael Mukasey

        Head of Homeland Security - Michael Chertoff

        Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Richard Perle

        Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) - Paul Wolfowitz

        Under Secretary of Defense - Douglas Feith

        National Security Council Advisor - Elliott Abrams

        Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) - “Scooter” Libby

        White House Deputy Chief of Staff - Joshua Bolten

        Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs - Marc Grossman

        Director of Policy Planning at the State Department - Richard Haass

        U.S.

        Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) - Robert Zoellick

        Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - James Schlesinger

        UN Representative (Former) - John Bolton

        Under Secretary for Arms Control - David Wurmser

        Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Eliot Cohen

        Senior Advisor to the President - Steve Goldsmith

        Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary - Christopher Gersten

        Assistant Secretary of State - Lincoln Bloomfield

        Deputy Assistant to the President - Jay Lefkowitz

        White House Political Director - Ken Melman

        National Security Study Group - Edward Luttwak

        Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Kenneth Adelman

        Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) - Lawrence (Larry) Franklin

        National Security Council Advisor - Robert Satloff

        President Export-Import Bank U.S.

        - Mel Semble

        Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families -
        Christopher Gersten

        Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs

        - Mark Weinberger

        White House Speechwriter - David Frum

        White House Spokesman (Former) - Ari Fleischer

        Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board - Henry Kissinger

        Deputy Secretary of Commerce - Samuel Bodman

        Under Secretary of State for Management - Bonnie Cohen

        Director of Foreign Service Institute - Ruth Davis

        • 13 votes
        #2.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:03 AM EDT

        Holy cow!

        • 4 votes
        #2.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:30 AM EDT

        Barbara...

        I would prefer past government experience at the federal level for advisors than most of the choices obama made with his local chicago based cohorts.

        Amazing that you had no problem with bush2's gates carrying on into the obama administration.

        Looks like all you got in your post is a bunch of sour grapes that romney is reaching out for experienced advisors rather than wnat obama did with mostly newbies. Lets hope that romney knows how to utilize these advisors.

        • 6 votes
        #2.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:37 AM EDT

        american-2051576 - if you beleive anything you just posted you need therapy, mental.

        • 12 votes
        #2.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:54 AM EDT

        Thanks for the info Barbara. Keep posting it!!

        • 7 votes
        #2.5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:36 AM EDT

        Experienced!?! At What!? Raping the electorate!?! Yeah they are plenty experienced! Yours is a perfect example of the mindset that is destroying this country.

        Conservatives steadily bash liberals for supposedly not being personally responsible and wanting the government to think for them but, is there any better example of a person not thinking for themselves than to be brainwashed into believing that only the holy job creators are qualified to hold public office?

        Keep buying the line of bull@!$%# they are selling, and things will only continue to get worse! Keep electing nothing but business leaders into government and we will continue to have a government that works in favor of only businesses at the expense of the people. Start electing some school principals, some managers who still punch a clock, and some stay at home parents, then see if we don't see some real change in favor of the working class.

        The elected officials we have have on both sides of the isle are nothing but corporate owned thieves! Lack of experience is exactly what we need in every branch of government because experience with the current system is just experience with crime, greed and covering of the ass. We don't need any more of that!

        If conservative super PAC money manages to elect mittens as POTUS, kiss what
        little freedom you have left, goodbye because it will be privatized like
        everything else.

        Cant, afford to pay RomneyCo Disaster Response Services LLC? Then, let your
        house burn! You don't deserve to own a home! Don't worry, we have RomneyCo
        private debtors prisons for the irresponsible made homeless by there own bad
        decisions.

        Can't afford to send your kids to RomneyCo Private Education and Mormon
        Indoctrination Centers? Shouldn't have had kids! Don't you know how to practice
        personal responsibility(as long as it's not birth control)? Don't worry we have
        RomneyCo factory jobs for the children of deadbeats.

        Can't afford to pay RomneyCo Law Enforcment Services Inc.? Then, you deserved
        to get raped! It's not our fault your parents couldn't afford to send you to
        college. Being irresposible is the same as asking for it!

        Can't afford to pay RomneyCo Voter ID Services? What makes you think you
        deserve to vote? We have to save the votes for the most important citizens,
        those that are publicly traded!

        Can't afford to pay RomneyCo Healthcare Services? Please hurry up and
        die!

        Don't worry we know what is best for people like you. Here, get on
        this freight train with the rest of your friends and family, and we will send
        you somewhere where they will make it all better.

        Is that the world that conservatives want? I doubt it but, that sure seems to
        be the way they are headed! @!$%# that!!!!

        • 9 votes
        #2.6 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:30 AM EDT

        I find it disturbing that Romney would have a press conference in London at which he refused to call on ANY American reporters after which he hot-foots it off to Isreal while most of London is laughing at him and procedds to have closed door fund-raisers with foreigners. I wonder what has been promised to foreigners by the blood of our sons and daughters...Romney is truly as devoid of conscience as rove and chainy.

        • 7 votes
        #2.7 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:20 PM EDT

        Thomas Blue - Romney showed his true colors in London and they aren't red, white and blue - I believe it's just green!

        Romney lacks integrity and has shown this over and over. Why would anyone vote for this empty shell of a man - and I use the term "man" loosely when referring to Romney.

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 7 votes
        #2.8 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:57 PM EDT

        Hmm...maybe green and yellow,SS. But I'm with you. I'm not sure who's the bigger losers- him or his supporters. I kinda wonder how depressing it must be to try and support someone who you know is a lying piece of blue-blooded trash that is as big a chickenhawk as cheney. It must choke going down. All to avoid accepting a black president. I really can't help wondering if a civil war is once again in our future given the shameless recalcitrance of the reich.

        • 4 votes
        #2.9 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

        gosh these comments are completely retarded! I mean I guess this IS msnbs after all....

          #2.10 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:18 PM EDT
          Reply

          More jingoism from Jindal...

          President Obama's vision for America is 20/20.

          • 11 votes
          Reply#3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:01 AM EDT

          20/20? Must be why buffet publicly stated that more taxes on the wealthy and corporations wouldn't even come close to resolving out debt issues. Seems that obamas vision is more in line with always blaming someone else for for the fog he is trying to gen erate.

          • 5 votes
          #3.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:42 AM EDT

          @american

          It's about fairness to start with. The rest will take care of itself. Maybe the rich will avoid taxes by investing in approved infrastructure programs and hiring US citizens.

          • 8 votes
          #3.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

          The only vision obama has is himself. He cannot see anything beyond his own self worth. Everything he has done has been has been for one reason...pandering to get votes. It is obvious he doesn't care about the country at all. Please wake up and see what this man has done to the wonderful United States of America!! It has never been more divided than it is now.

          Can you honestly say that you are in better shape now than 4 years ago? You hired him to fix what you thought Bush did "wrong". But he has NOT done anything to "fix" the wrongs. He has added more debt in 4 years than Bush did in 8. He has backed companies that went bankrupt. He has demonstrated absolutely no knowledge of economics.

          And yet, all you can do is call the race card. The biggest act of racism was in 2008 when so many voted for him "because he was black" Oh wait, there was the women interviewed that said, " once you see that smile, how can you do anything BUT vote for him?" Yeah, thats a wonderful reason for choosing the POTUS.........NOT!!!!!

          • 4 votes
          #3.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

          To: USA/Canuck

          Barack Obama has done more for the American people than you choose to acknowledge. THE BIGGEST ACT OF RACSIM, IS VOTER ID FRAUD. Trying to keep black people from voting (which I know you hate). Yes, I am black I voted for Obama. I voted for him, because he was the only "sane" choice in 2008, not because he is black. I certainly would not vote for someone like Herman Cain. Please do not insult a whole race of people because you do not understand what really is going on the United States

          • 13 votes
          #3.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

          What nonsense. I can honestly say, as a small business owner, that I am better now than I was 4 years ago. When Obama took office we were losing 700,000 jobs a month, but it's his fault, right? Part of the debt increase came from the continuation of TARP, which was the brain child of Henry Paulson, Bush's Secretary of the Treasury, but it's all Obama's fault, right? Part of the debt was the bail out of the U.S auto industry, which began under the Bush administration, but it's Obama's fault, right?

          Never, ever let facts get in the way of your spewing of nonsense!

          • 13 votes
          #3.5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:07 AM EDT

          Oh, and by the way. When Obama took office, the Dow was in the six thousands and falling. It is now above thirteen thousand. So, if you have any investments, such as a 401K, you are definitely better off today.

          Just another inconvenient fact.

          • 11 votes
          #3.6 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

          - usa/canuck ... never been more divided than it is now.

          You are absolutely right! Thanks to the GOP and Mitt it's become the rich against the poor. I didn't know and not thought this country could be bought. But that's exactly what the rich is doing. The do nothing GOP in congress stoped Obama from doing nothing and fools like you set arouind and say President Obama only vision was himself. Then you have the rich willing to spend like drunken sailors on an idiot like Mitt, but aren't willing to give up their fair share of taxes. Idiots like you complain about what Obama didn't do but not honest enough to see why he couldn't get it done. (the GOP plans from thye very beginning) So it's not a case of what he hasn't done but who he is. But I'm here today to tell you and all the flunkies for Mitt and the GOP clowns that the real Americans are not as stupid as you all are hoping. America and the real Americans are not for SALE!

          • 10 votes
          #3.7 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

          Really good points, Mike076 and Rburn. Thanks for writing!

          • 5 votes
          #3.8 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:27 AM EDT

          Mike076 and Rburn - great posts and points!

          Hi newday!

          • 1 vote
          #3.9 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

          Jindal - injecting the WIMP vision for all Repubs to wallow in...

          • 1 vote
          #3.10 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:35 AM EDT

          It's about fairness to start with. The rest will take care of itself. Maybe the rich will avoid taxes by investing in approved infrastructure programs and hiring US citizens.

          If corp tax rates were lower, it would be advantageous to invest here... as long as taxes and regulation are oppressive, people with money will invest where it's not.... and I think everyone knows now what Liberal "fairness" means.... confiscating wealth that they didn't earn and redistributing it to buy votes.... anybody care to look where Soros is hiding his wealth?

            #3.11 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:36 AM EDT

            newday...this is off topic but I love your icon. My papillion is the same color and markings. Beautiful breed and very loving.

            Love the paps!

              #3.12 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

              mike 076

              The Dow30 which is the 30 largest corporations makes up two thirds of the dow average.

              Since those corporations have operations around the entire world means nothing more than the Corporations have expanded well in the global marketplace.

              The Dow has stalled the past few years if you haven't noticed which is a reflection of whats happening globally.

              Market reaction to a global stalemate not who's President.

                #3.13 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:14 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarJeanne Donaldsonvia Facebook

                With the way people are thinking today,it is amazing that Jindal has gotten away without anyone questioning HIS citizenship. He SAYS he was born two months after his parents arrived in the US, ( neither of whom were citzens, unlike President Obama's Kansas born mother) He says he is now a Catholic..convenient, yes? He says his first name is "Bobby", no it's not, he calls himself that. There is far, far more reason to dig into Jindals background on why he should be elegible to be chosen as a VP candidate. Yet he is out there, unchallenged, stumping for Romney, perhaps in the hope of being selected. No right wingers are nipping at HIS back side for absolute proof on his story while the same bunch can't accept a bi-racial man, birth certificate shown over and over from Hawaii plus being born to a Kansas born American mother.

                  #3.14 - Wed Aug 1, 2012 8:47 AM EDT
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                  Any day I will take Obama's vision of fairness in taxes over Romney's vision of himself getting wealthier at my expense. Did you know the GAO (govt acctg office, said to be bipartisan) calculated that under Romney's tax plan taxes go down everywhere except for 18 million American families at the BOTTOM of the economic scale? His plan lets the stimulus tax credits expire, is how that happens. One would think, how much could that be, why not include those too and avoid this appearance? But no, I guess Mitt wants to pay for his own tax reduction SOMEHOW so the debt won't go higher.

                  • 11 votes
                  Reply#4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:16 AM EDT

                  Jindal - Who spent what 12 Million dollars on berms to get rid of the oil that didn't work - wants to talk about what?

                  And has refused Medicare for all of his citizens in Louisiana - and Louisiana who voted David Vitter - the diaper man into office - is espousing what is good for America?

                  Sorry little boy - you are not ready for the big league nor is your leader Willard

                  What a joke this Republican Party is - but we already knew that - at least they lied better

                  • 15 votes
                  #4.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:56 AM EDT

                  I really resent the Governor of the state at the bottom of the barrel telling the rest of us how to do it.

                  • 16 votes
                  #4.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:36 AM EDT

                  Jindal - Who spent what 12 Million dollars on berms to get rid of the oil that didn't work - wants to talk about what?

                  $12 Million... really? that's like 12 seconds of Obamaspend.... get real....

                    #4.3 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:38 AM EDT

                    john2828835

                    Obamatax will be the largest tax increase on the middle class in history with over 21 taxes and that is ontop of wanting to expire the Bush cuts putting more taxes on the middle class.

                    Obama,s agents are attacking the middle class and violating tax rules to get more taxes out of the middle class.

                    I myself is a victim of Obama,s corrupted agents and am currently working with tax advocates on the matter.

                    My returns from 2008 to 2011 have been amended by Obama,s cronies- first they disallowed the deductions from the losses after being victim of fraud and identity theft in 2007-2008.

                    Second they changed my exempitons from married jiont return to single 1 which is another violation of tax rules by the IRS.

                    next they fully taxed my wife's Social Security Disability benefit's ignoring the work sheets and again another violation of tax code by Obama,s agents.

                    Do I need to go on. The fable talking point of giving breaks to the rich and punishing the middle class by the GOP is getting very old.

                    Take note that IRS altered my tax returns for only those years Obama has been in office- something very fishy going on- ROTTEN OBAMA

                      #4.4 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:35 PM EDT

                      John-you did not have fraud insurance on your credit cards? Were you trying to double dip? Secondly, social security disability benefits are taxable if the person receiving then have other income over a certain amount. Lastly, out of millions of tax payers, why did president Obama single out you? Were you trying to hide something?

                      President Obama have not raised taxes on anybody, and that is fact. It seems you are not aware of that fact. A large portion of the stimulas package went to tax breaks for individuals.

                        #4.5 - Wed Aug 1, 2012 10:56 AM EDT
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                        Ask Gov. Jindal how he allowed a state-funded educational institution to sue a family to take possession of their last family home in Louisiana. The college in question, Southeastern Louisiana University, preyed upon an old woman, got themselves written into her will while separating the woman from her family. When the woman was on her deathbed and realized she had been taken advantage of, she wrote a new will, leaving the home to her family. After her death, Southeastern Louisiana University along with its under-qualified and overpaid 'president of fundraising', sued the estate to overturn the will. With a twist that is only possible in the corrupt "good ol' boys" way of life that is southern Louisiana, the judge presiding over the case, an alumni of the university, ruled against the family. The school easily spent more on laywers fees than the house is worth... and it was all taxpayer money. Governor Jindal stood by and let it happen, and his office was well aware of what was going on, because I sent him a personal letter that his office didn't even have the intestinal fortitude to respond to. Not even with a form letter.

                        So I guess this is what republicans have in store for the rest of us... spend your money to steal your home and give it to someone else. You think Obama or Romney are bad? Gov. Jindal and the rest of the corrupt, greedy politicians in the south are worse.

                        • 8 votes
                        Reply#5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:06 AM EDT
                        Comment author avatarJeanne Donaldsonvia Facebook

                        Louisiana has had a very long history of powerful corrupt politicans who enriched themselves . It was, and according to you, could still be, a mafia-like group of poliltical crooks. Maybe the people of Louisiana voted for JIndal because they thought he was so different than the good old boys they had for all those years. Break the mold, so to speak. Maybe Jindal learned a few tricks of his own! What a terrible shame for those poor people who lost their home.

                          #5.1 - Wed Aug 1, 2012 9:03 AM EDT
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                          Jindal is right...a choice between 2 very different visions of america. In 1 vision, the GOP has decided that fairness is to have future seniors on Medicare go from paying approximately 200 a month for medicare coverage to paying 700 a month for it, all so that the wealthy can get another tax break. It calls for massive cuts to food stamps, health care for children and the poor, early childhood education programs, job training aid, reducing tax cuts to the middle class and poor.....all so that the wealthy can get another tax break. The GOP believe that the wealthy are the drivers of our economy, although there has been no evidence whatsoever to show that is true. They no longer cater to the 1 percent, hell, they cater to the top 1 percent of the 1 percenters. With overwhelming evidence that the majority of Americans want the tax breaks for 98 percent of all americans and 97 percent of all small businesses, the GOP are determined to fight that if the wealthiest don't get theirs too. Think about that for just a second. " If we do not get our way, we are willing to screw 98 percent of Americans. " wow.

                          • 8 votes
                          Reply#6 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:07 AM EDT

                          Just making it up as you go, aren't you.... care to document where all those fabrications come from?

                            #6.1 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:42 AM EDT
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                            This is not a choice between competing visions for America!! This is a choice between the American that we all know and love, and an America that is dominated by the loneyed and corporate elite!

                            Hey you guys, remember your history!! The last 3 GOP presidents signed TWENTY deficit riddled budgets that added over $11T to the debt AND saddled Obama with a $1.3T deficit BEFORE he was even sworn in!!

                            http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo4.htm

                            http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm

                            They did it deliberately--following their plan ( adopted under raygun) to starve the beast, that is, mortgage the government to the hilt so they could privatize SS and Medicare!http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/06/tax-cuts-republicans-starve-the-beast-columnists-bruce-bartlett.html (Bartlett is a conservative republican who served in the Treasury Dept under raygun and bush 43)

                            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/28/999759/-Hardball:-Bruce-Bartlett-desroys-every-Republican-fiscal-talking-point-in-5-minutes-?via=siderec (Hardball transcript with Bartlett trashing the GOP spending)

                            http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10054/1037783-109.stm

                            http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/10/27/126318/gop-privatize-socialsecurity/

                            http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/04/07/paul-ryan-and-the-republican-effort-to-finally-starve-the-beast/?utm_source=allactivity&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=20110408

                            The debt crisis is a deliberate creation of the GOP! They want to privatize SS/ Medicare and funnel the money into the hands of the wealthy and corporate elite!! They crashed the economy. Why in HELL would ANYONE seriously consider voting them back into power???

                            • 11 votes
                            Reply#7 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:30 AM EDT

                            Yep tom, Obama sure likes all those millionaires and billionaires being on his side. To bad for obama that he lost some of the support from them that he had so much of in 2008.

                            Still blaming the right for crashing the economy?? Recessions are cyclical. Amazing that you can't find fault with obama and company for not remaining focused on the economy during his first 3 years. Will you blame bush again if the economy goes south before 2016? Especially if obama is lucky enough to be re-electedthanks for the treasury links, but I will pass on the thinkprogress/regressive links.

                            BTW - to bad you didn't include world and national events that were occuring during these time.

                            I found it interesting that all past pesidents have found a way to work with congress yet obama can't, even occasionally with his own party...

                            • 6 votes
                            #7.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:50 AM EDT

                            american-2051576 - if the "Right", the Republican Administration of G W Bush did not create and cause the Republican Great Recession of 2008, please coherently explain to us mere mortals who did.

                            • 4 votes
                            #7.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

                            concernedusa5031

                            .... coherently explain to us mere mortals who did."

                            I don't know about 'coherently' but technically it was Clinton who, in his last desperate days in the White House allowed some fifth column guys to blackmail him (something to do with interns, I suspect) into signing a bill gutting Glass-Steagall which allowed commercial and investment banks to merge and become 'too big to fail' by writing literally $hundreds of $trillions in an unregulated derivatives house of cards. It's the perfect blackmail stick if somebody in the White House doesn't concur with your attempts to enslave humanity. The banksters ran amok with their new unfettered and unregulated and unaccountable power, bundling junk loans into packaged crap, buying triple-A ratings from S&P and Moodys and selling the crap to unsuspectiing retirement funds.

                            Of the fifth column guys, Larry Summers slithered back to Harvard and Phil Graam faded away but banksters' cabal stooge Timmy Geithner is still in the the White House whore room rippin' America a new one.

                            • 2 votes
                            #7.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:36 AM EDT

                            You need to look farther back than Clinton. It is our economic model, beginning with Reagan, that is doing us in.

                            • 5 votes
                            #7.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:08 AM EDT

                            pj-965429 - well you've gone and done it now. You've referenced the holy Reagan in a bad way - the far right will NOT like that!

                            Those of us who were paying attention know Reagan was no more in control during his last term than you and I were. He was already in the beginning stages of alzheimers and the country was run by his cronies - who did not give a damn for anyone but the wealthiest - as is the GOP way.

                            Obama/Biden 2012

                            • 3 votes
                            #7.5 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:11 PM EDT
                            Comment author avatarJeanne Donaldsonvia Facebook

                            I agree, Sanity. I clearly remember a speech Raegan was giving where he stopped after a few words, looked confused and Nancy fed him the rest of the sentence which he then repeated. It was very evident in the last year of his term he had to be carefully watched, the confusion was unmistakable. Remember the hearings where all he could testify was he didn't remember?

                            Even in his earlier days I had to wonder how much of his presidency was him playing the part of President, as an actor, controlled by the people behind the screen. He WAS after all a good actor.

                              #7.6 - Wed Aug 1, 2012 9:16 AM EDT
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                              Bobby is right, competing visions and I like Obama's better. You can't go into the future with your back turned longing for the past. The past is gone, never to return and for the most part that is a good thing.

                              • 7 votes
                              Reply#8 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:34 AM EDT

                              Kathryn, of course you do, obama keeps on telling you that someone else will bail out the economy and pay for increased social benefits.

                              I have to laugh at liberals who think that trickle down doesn't work while obama is trying to do his own trickle down. Somehow I think that a voluntary trickle down is better than a lopsided 2% forced taxation increase can be.

                              Fair by obamas standards is to make someone else pay. At least reagan and tip o'niel understood that fair meant that everyone has skin in the game, even bush2 made his tax cuts across the board.

                              • 4 votes
                              #8.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:05 AM EDT

                              And what cons did differently? They make everybody but the 1% pays, promesing that they will make jobs come back after the tax breaks.

                              Where are the jobs that the "rich" people will produce after the tax breaks? After 10 years with the GOP blocking ANY attempt to kill the tax breaks? Where are the JOBS that they promised during the 2010 campaign?

                              • 6 votes
                              #8.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

                              american?-2051576 - What the Obama Administration did is SAVE THE U S ECONOMY & WORLD ECONOMY FROM COLLAPSE, now the administration is rebuilding the ECONOMY from the rock bottom up and doing quite well despite the REPUBLICAN OBSTRUCTION.

                              The REPUBLICAN FAILURE OF 2008 will have economic impact through 2023, when you f-ck up the world economy it does not just bounce back overnight. The Republican DEPRESSION of 1930 took 20 years plus World War II to recover. The REpublican Horrible Recession of 1981 took seven years for the economy to recover, pull your head out of your, you know what.

                              • 5 votes
                              #8.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

                              concerned.......all the USA and the world now has to do is SAVE OURSELVES FROM OBAMA!!!!!!

                              • 2 votes
                              #8.4 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

                              TeaRhetoric at its very best goofiest.

                              • 1 vote
                              #8.5 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

                              Concernedusa5031

                              It was the Government in general that caused the collapse of 2008 and it started back in the Clinton era when Clinton wanted to boost home ownership during the continution of the economic boom.

                              Fannie and Freddie went to the banks and banks did not have the funds to give but wall street private investors on wall street did have the funds to give.

                              Fannie and Freddie violated the rules set after the October 1929 crash of separation between investment banks and commercial banks by bridging the gap between these banks by repackaging mortgages into investment like vehicles that can be purchased like a stock.

                              Which comes to the point of why government needs to get out of private sector enterprise and stick to the core responsibilities under the constitution.

                                #8.6 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:46 AM EDT
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                                Something about Romney's facial expessions and the way he carries himself has been bothering me. Then I saw the Pope walk and talk and the light went on. Mitt looks like he is just humoring people, looking down from his superior position.

                                • 10 votes
                                Reply#9 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:38 AM EDT

                                I got that too. Not the Pope connection, but the ugly way Romney has of waiting a little too long after every remark, the nervous eye roll-tic combination to see if he got his point across, it is creepy beyond words. Fake and untrustworthy.

                                • 5 votes
                                #9.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:11 AM EDT

                                Does his neck even turn?

                                • 1 vote
                                #9.2 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

                                Romney does have a very creepy look to him. I didn't like that snarky look Bush jr had either. It was like he was thinking I know you know I'm lying my ass off but what the F@#@ do you you peasants think you can do about it.

                                • 1 vote
                                #9.3 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:24 AM EDT
                                Comment author avatarJeanne Donaldsonvia Facebook

                                It does sound petty, but I agree. There is somethng about his eyes, the way they dart around when he atttmpts to answer a question along with the wooden fake smile and the heh-heh-heh odd chuckle before he starts to speak. The question is usually serious, what is he laughing about? Maybe somthing to be said about body language after all. His stinks!

                                  #9.4 - Wed Aug 1, 2012 9:23 AM EDT
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                                  Who gives a flying F what Bobby "short pants" Jindal thinks or says for Christ's sake. He's a MORON!

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#10 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:58 AM EDT

                                  Aye, short and succinct.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #10.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:41 AM EDT
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                                  Who?

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#11 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:21 AM EDT

                                  Two visions? Just like in the movie "It's an Wonderful Life". If the choice is Robmey's Pottersville, and Obama's Bedford Falls I'll take Bedford Falls every time.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  Reply#12 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:37 AM EDT

                                  If only we had more citizens like the Bailey's who believed in their fellow citizens, and used wealth to help those around them, knowing that when the standard of living is better for even the humblest working man, we are all better, rather than today's wealthy and "corporate citizens" who are sitting on trillions of dollars of wealth rather than re-inventing into their communities and become the "job creators" the GOP keeps harping about.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #12.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:03 AM EDT

                                  EMDF9a

                                  the corporations are sitting on all that money because they do not know what Communist/Marxist Obama is going to throw at them next.

                                  This is why many of them are donating to the Romney campaign to get someone back in office who understands and knows how our capital free market system works which is America.

                                    #12.2 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:58 AM EDT
                                    Comment author avatarJeanne Donaldsonvia Facebook

                                    OH PLEASE! You don't know what a communist/marxist is! You just parrot what you hear from Rush..who by the way gets crazier every day. Now Limbaugh in his drug induced haze, has said the whole Olympic opening ceremony was all for President Obama's benfit!!! Yessiree, the Brits did a tribute , promoting an American president rather than themselves. He's convinced!

                                    If Romney wins this election you will find out what it was like to live back in the early 1900's with the big corporate robbber barons running the country. You might just make a good lawn boy or stable hand .Ever since the GOP gave the wealthy big tax breaks ten years ago the rich have gotten much richer and the middle class has gotten poorer and is shrinking. Romney wants to continue this system and add to it. Iin in fact you will find your self paying more and getting less. Making the rich richer gave us no jobs! Look at what happened in 2008! Doomsday that we are still painfully trying to crawl out of. And you want more??

                                      #12.3 - Wed Aug 1, 2012 9:43 AM EDT
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                                      When Jindal puts it that way it iseven more scary. Soup kitchens would be big. A lease Obama is fighting to bring back a balanced America. What is he trying to achieve? Decent health care, an educated population to maintain competitive advantge, rebuild infrastructure and ensure that consumers have a fighting chance against big corporations. Not bad objectives.

                                      • 4 votes
                                      Reply#13 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:57 AM EDT

                                      Which vision of hell would you prefer? Hope and change didn't happen with O'bama. He kept the same Wall Street cabal stooges in the White House that George W. let run the show and the fiscal cliff is twice as high now. And that fiscal cliff looks a lot like it was 'engineered.' Republicans have the chance to nominate a competent and honest candidate but that combination is a rare animal so they're going with a graceless clown who blundered into $250 million and now wants to gut the 99%.

                                      We'll vote in the least of the evils, Barak "No Huevos" O'bama, in spite of Republicans' attempt to disenfranchise millions of Democrat voters in Florida and Pennsylvania. Even then, the economic mess will still be beyond resolution without some profound structural changes and no candidate in sight appears to understand that problem, much less be willing to address it.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#14 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                                      If enough people quit voting in the lesser of two evils, maybe we could get someone competent in the White House. If anything, it would sure send a message to the clowns on Capital Hill.

                                        #14.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:15 AM EDT
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                                        Obama is trying to break the hold the top 5% have enjoyed on the economic,political,and cultural essence of our country for generations. This election IS about change. There is, and has been throughout History, a war between the classes...Anytime there was a change for the betterment of the masses there was a revolution of sorts.Wars had to be fought for the abolition of slavery, basic human rights in Europe, rights of workers everywhere, marches for women to vote ,protests against child labor, etc....At the helm of "no change" has always been the power of money and radical conservatism...When you are comfortable at the expense of others--Why change? Royalty, despots, tyrants, and Wall St hate change . They also hate Obama for trying to change the system of greed that dominates our economic culture..and they fear the consequences of his re-election !!

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#15 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

                                        Bobby Jindal is a bright young man who is driven by blind ambition and no powerful politician will trust him as a member of his inner circle..We all know the Louisiana breed of politician--Tell'em what they want to hear then when you get the crown ditch 'em ! Poor Mitch has a poor batch to choose a VP from..Jon Huntsman, the best one, isn't even going to the repub convention, he's so disgusted with his Party ! Can you imagine a young Jindal or Rubio being POTUS ??? God have mercy !

                                        • 4 votes
                                        Reply#16 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

                                        Jindal is correct, there is a tremendous difference between President Obama's America and Mittens Romney's America.

                                        Romney's America is of Bigots, 2% Control, Corporations are "people", Minority Rule, Serfdom and Servitude.

                                        Obama's America is for ALL of the PEOPLE, Opportunity and Equality for ALL of the PEOPLE, a Fully Functioning Economy for ALL of the PEOPLE, HEALTH CARE for ALL the PEOPLE, EDUCATION for ALL the PEOPLE, DEMOCRACY for ALL of the PEOPLE, Fair Taxation and a GOVERNMENT that serves ALL of the PEOPLE.

                                        And by the way, Thank you Obama Administration for saving the WORLD from the REPUBLICAN GREAT RECESSION of 2008!

                                        • 7 votes
                                        Reply#17 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:19 AM EDT

                                        concernobamazombie,,,No racism in 96% of blacks voteing for obama in 2008, or the fact there are more rich democrats then rich republicans, and that the majoriety of the people were against your prophet obamataxcare,and policies against drilling,illegal immigration,EPA, etc but it was still rammed down the taxpayers throats! Fair taxation when America has the largest corporate tax in the world now and every citizen is looking at the higest tax hike in history comming up? I sure am glad you don't take one ioda of blame for having a democratic senate and congress for George W Bush"s last 2 years with full contol of all 3 branche's for the first 2 years of king obama! And the "republican great recession" of 2008,a large part caused by democrat deepthroat barney franks and his fannie and freddy crap that he stopped republicans like McCain in the 90's from fixing? Thank you hussain obama and inept administration for the constant race and class warfare to take the American taxpayer's eyes of your complete failed policies and fraud on this what once a great country! Will he go on one last bash America world tour before the election? I'll bet his tone will get alot softer now that people see what a patalogical liar in chief this puke really is!

                                        • 6 votes
                                        #17.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

                                        Murphy - clearly you don't have a clue about what transpired in 2008. We voted for the best person running - there was no racism involved, except from the far right. McCain/Palin would have been disastrous for this country as they didn't even realize we had economic problems. Now the GOP runs a completely out-of-touch Mitt Romney and thinks that's the answer. No sane person is going to vote for him!

                                        Your ignorance is overwhelming. We have debunked the "full control of all 3 branches for the first 2 years" over and over again. You're either just stupid or a total liar. President Obama (we have no king - clearly you're confused on so many levels) had a filibuster proof congress for a slight 7 months. During that time Ted Kennedy was ill - so didn't vote - and there were many recesses. So, he actually had a filibuster-proof congress for about 4 months.

                                        The GOP has filibustered this President's proposals more than any President in the history of the country.

                                        The inept group to blame for this recession and its continuance is the GOP. You clearly know that and continue to lie about your disgusting excuse for a party.

                                        Your put downs of Obama show your lack of intellect and integrity. It says more about you than it ever says about out President.

                                        The pathological liar here is you - and Romney!

                                        Oh, and one more thing - this is STILL a great country. We won't let the Republican Party destroy us!

                                        Obama/Biden 2012

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #17.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:31 PM EDT

                                        I love that tired old right wing argument that the U.S. has the "highest corporate tax rate in the world". This might even be correct if anyone actually paid it. Over the last 3 decades each successive republican administration and congress has put so many loop holes in the tax code nobody with a decent tax lawyer pays much of anything in taxes.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #17.3 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:36 AM EDT

                                        @cory, hence why Mittens doesn't want us to see his tax returns. I'm almost 99% positive that he paid very well below his tax rate or none at all for at least 3 to 5 years.

                                          #17.4 - Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                                          Its sad to see many of you blaming one party for 2008 when it was the government in general with good intensions.

                                          it started during the Clinton adminstration with Freddie and Fannie violating rules set after the October 1929 crash and thanks to the government we had a down turn.

                                          The financial markets recovered nicely in 14 months after September 2008

                                          What is happening now with the housing and the economy is all on Communist and Marxist Obama with his Anti-American policies.

                                          I see Many of you still posting references from Ayers and Soros sites which means the information is biased and edited to push the agenda and many of you are taking the bait.

                                            #17.5 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:52 PM EDT
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                                            Republicans see we are in a downward spiral and while this "do nothing congress" has passed 30 plus bills adressing our unemployment, economy and even a BUDGET PLAN, dingy harry reid and the real 'DO NOTHING democratic senate will not even let them come up for a debate less a vote like a bunch of stinkin cowards they are! Democrats do nothing but call for higher taxes and more big government while robbing medicare for the obamataxcare and do not one single thing about the spending and fraud that they thieve from the American taxpayers everyday! Democrats want government to run every aspect of your lives and it is republicans that ask for less government. look at what Walker has done to his state even after democrats, and unions tried to rail him out after a legal election! Look at the democrat policies and see the harm with their "santuary" beliefs and spending and watch city after city filing for bankruptcy! At least there will be hope and change as soon as king obama is fired with even more democratic MOOCHERS then in 2010! And if Romney does not do his job, then we can throw his a$$ out in 2016, but with obama's GDP worse then during the great depression, phoney unemployment numbers over 8%, gas $4 a gallon, our nation's credit downgraded for the fist time ever,,,,we cannot afford this pathalogical liar in chief any longer! No obama or socialist lib democratic MOOCHERS in 2012!

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                                            Reply#18 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:22 AM EDT

                                            Every bill passed by the GOP House had a poison pill, intentionally placed to insure that it would not get though the Senate. Their "jobs" programs were nothing but "statements:" of GOP policies, more tax cuts for the non performing job creators.

                                            How convenient it is for you to forget that the GOP created this economic meltdown, taking only 8 years to do so. snatching economic disaster from the jaws of the Clinton economic growth and balanced budgets. You obviously have not seen the bread lines of the Great Depression, the public works, and the efforts of the Federal Government to put people back to work. Your GOP has consistently blocked every legislative attempt to rebuild the economy with their misplaced allegiance to Grover Norquist and his no new taxes pledge.

                                            You call people who lost their jobs, and their homes "moochers". Have you even considered why they need help, why the nation's economy melted down? Have you considered Bushes tax cuts for job creators and failed economic policies added over 5 Trillion dollars to our National budget? Have you considered that the GOP policies have have resulted in the redistribution of over 36% of all of America's wealth to the fictitious job creators? do you understand that those same policies have created a new class of Americans, now almost 50% who are now living in poverty? Do you even comprehend that most of these people would like real jobs, but that they simply do not exist? Do you have the intelligence to understand that minimum wage today is almost 25% less than it was in 1960, when inflation is factored in.

                                            Do you even care:?

                                            In reailty, it seems that you have been brainwashed into beliving everything the GOP tells you, ignoring the facts of our own economic history, and that Romney's "solutions" for America are excactly the same solutions which Bush II and the GOP used to create our economic meltdown.

                                            Please, take a course or two in American history, and recent American history to understand that the GOP and Romney have no solutions, just an overriding desire to win, no matter what the cost to our nation and its people.

                                              #18.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:59 PM EDT

                                              ATC3

                                              Those bills passed by the house were passed by a bipartisan vote and one of those bills is the one that Obama and the house strongly agreed on and passed by a 400 to 35 margin.

                                              It is do nothing Reid that is holding up things for political reasons and now I know why Nevada has the highest foreclosure rate and one of the highest unemployment rates.

                                                #18.2 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:11 AM EDT
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                                                Murphy: We, everybody else see what Republicans are:

                                                We wish this President to fail "Rush GOP Limbaugh"

                                                We are going to make this President a one-term President. "Mitch McConnell"

                                                Corporations are people "Mitt Romney"

                                                YES, We, everybody else knows what Republicans really are......

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                                                Reply#19 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

                                                heman,,It was his policies he wanted to fail, and if you want to quote one senator,I can give you 10 from other democratic ones that are worse! Corporations are people, shareholders, retirement funds etc that invest in the company bozo, and unlike your prophet obama that broke a lot of little companies to give the big unions ownership in the car companies, look at the unemployment # and after billions of wasted taxpayer money in a stimulas that this puke of a president can only joke about the "shovel ready" jobs, all we get is higher tax ideas and more of the same failed policies!

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                                                #19.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

                                                He did not break a lot of little companies in the car bailout. He saved a lot of them. Many of them were reeling from the effects of no operating loans available, over 30 day payment from the big vendors, a whole lot of things that came with the economic collapse that came into full force when he took office. He has done a good job especially considering what he was immediately handed, a financial nightmare.

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                                                #19.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:18 AM EDT

                                                Sheila and hernan- Murphy doesn't want to see the truth - that the GOP has plotted against this President - and the country - from day one.

                                                Obama/Biden 2012

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                                                #19.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:33 PM EDT
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                                                My vision of America is not to repeat the past, we cant afford to give more and more to the top 2% precent and expect a different result, hopeing for the trickle down effect. it did not work then and has not worked now. Unless you have just crawled from under a rock, you would have to admit things are turning around, maybe not as fast as we would have liked. but reminber it took us long time to get into this mess, and if you thought, it would take overnight to correct it, you were wrong. as Jesus said look where I have brought you from. If you look to where we were in 2008 and where are now in 2012. we are moving this country forward. we cant afford to go backwards. Mitt the Twitt offers the same policies of the past. Please say no to the past, and yes to the future.

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                                                Reply#20 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:36 AM EDT

                                                Fred

                                                the so called trickle down down gave us the biggest economic boom in U.S. history during the Reagan and Clinton era.

                                                Reagan turned around the economy after 14 months in office. and at Reagan's re-election the economy GDP was at 7.1%.

                                                The financial sector recovered from 2008 within 14 months and that's why the market rebounded.

                                                The housing market is still depressed because it is dependant upon the average American who is suffering under the Obama regime which comes to the point that investors who are buying the distressed properties are foriegn investors.

                                                The rhetoric or fable talking point of I inherited this mess was over at that time also but it is still resonating as fact 3.5 years later.

                                                The real 15% unemployment rate,anemic GDP,6 trillion deficit and climbing and the rest of the dismal economy is all a result of the Obama administration policies.

                                                I am at a leval3 trading level so I am well versed in the financial world.

                                                  #20.1 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:41 AM EDT
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                                                  When they say "divide and blame" is only what Obama side is doing makes me smile.. To win an election all have to do that.. The better one is at doing it then the more chance they will win.. As for the vision of where our country is and where it is going.. If we continue on the course we are going and if the world economy improves a little then by 2016 at the soonest will we recover enough to seem like we were back in 2008.. The election in November will tell how that will go..

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                                                  Reply#21 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

                                                  Actually, Jindal is right. Romney for the upper 1 % and President Obama for the other 99 % . Romney will never get the chance to be President. He will lose the November election because he hasn't got a clue as to what this country really needs. Rmoney--he's the cause, not the cure..



                                                  OBAMA /BIDEN 2012

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                                                  Reply#22 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:41 AM EDT

                                                  60s veteran

                                                  The 1% and 99% does not exist and is nothing more than a talking point taken directly from the Karl Marx ideoplogy.

                                                  Wake up?

                                                    #22.1 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:45 AM EDT
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                                                    Bobby who? Could we have the news,please?

                                                    Has anybody ever seen Jindal when he wasn't wearing that sour facial expression and didn't look like he was so angry that he was going to knock the head off of the next person who approached him?

                                                    Has anyone ever listened to him when he didn't just repeat the same rant over and over,getting himself more and more agitated the more he talked? Every time he makes a public "speech" it's the same refrain about how he's an authority on how to do the job of The President Of The United States,when in fact he's driving his own state into the ground.Does Jindal think that if he repeats this malarkey enough times anyone will believe it? Wouldn't the time be better spent improving his own leadership skills, his public speaking skills, or at least his own disposition? Jindal harping on and on,ad nauseum about him being an authority on running the United States makes about as much sense as me harping on and on about how I'm the tooth fairy. It's not news.

                                                    Has anyone ever had a coworker or relative who was constantly so angry that people could smell the smoke,never had anything positive to say and when you were around them you were forced to listen to their non-stop negativity and kvitching about the same topic over and over and over...? Pretty soon other people avoid someone who does that like the plague.The only time a non-stop kvitcher says anything positive is in a case like this where Jindal thinks it's going to benefit him to make brownie points with Willard Romney.As if Romney will even remember him after he's used him for what he needed.Even in this case,rather than Jindal making his speech a pleasant experience for anyone who will listen-as I would think he would do if he wants people to associate Romney with positive thoughts- Jindall spends far more time stuck in the same old rant;attacking people, rather than using that time to tell us why he believes in Romney or why he thinks Romney's policies would be any better than Obama's. Eventually Jindal's rants always come back to what he's really angry about and can't get past: President Obama is President of the United States and Jindall is not and never will be, because Jindal can't cut it as a governor.Jindal can't even engage in any cronyism with Obama.

                                                    This is like listening to a physically unattractive person and insecure person go into a rant of hostile comments toward drop dead gorgeous people at the slightest trigger,or listening to someone go into an angry rant about another person's good education,when they won't expend the energy to improve their own situation.On second thought Jindal's latest public speech IS a rant by a guy who is a failure at his job,doesn't have a personality,and is butt ugly(Other people on Newsvine have noted that Jindal looks like Jiminy Cricket.)-toward someone who is in a far more desirable position,who many opine is highly successful in his job,who has numerous things that Jindal never will, is drop dead gorgeous and has a drop dead gorgeous wife.

                                                    This isn't news it's Jindal's personal issues.He needs to either take the initiative to better himself or go back to quietly sucking on his lemons and dill pickles.

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                                                    Reply#23 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

                                                    With the passage of NAFTA and GATT during the Clinton administration, our political leaders chose the path to globalization. Since then, 50,000 US manufacturing plants have closed and with it 6,000,000 manufacturing jobs have been lost. In a global sense, these jobs have not been lost, they have only been lost to Americans.

                                                    The leadership of both parties believe globalization is the right way for us, and now that the cat is out of the bag I guess it to late change. But when I hear Republicans and Democrats weep for the middle class, I want to puke.

                                                    The only difference between the parties is how we divide our wealth. Obama wants to take it from the Whites, and give it to the Blacks. Romney doesn't want to rock the boat...and I don't know what that means either. Obama believes in the new world order and Romney not so much.

                                                    I wish we had 'do overs'.

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                                                    Reply#24 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:35 AM EDT

                                                    Bill H - what an ignorant post. President Obama has not desire to take from the whites and give to the blacks. You are a complete fool or a total liar or a little of both. President Obama wants to protect the middle class. Romney wants to give all to the top 1% and to hell with the middle class.

                                                    Obama/Biden 2012

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                                                    #24.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:37 PM EDT

                                                    youre a dumb@ss just like the typical liberal. the only hope for this bozo of a president to stay in office is to redistribute wealth from the successful to the black and brown welfare loser such as yourself. you really want that free tv so you will vote for the chicago community organizer in hopes of getting one.

                                                      #24.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                                                      Uncle Henry

                                                      I have challenged Sanity several times and have not got any responses back.

                                                      I have challenged several of these posters who take fable talking points directly from the baised and edited sites to tell me what the Ayers and Soros agenda is.

                                                      I am still waiting?

                                                      Many of these posters are ill-informed,misguided, and do not want to take the responsibility to vett the candidates or the issues.

                                                      They merely copy talking points from Communist and Marxist sites.

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                                                      #24.3 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:57 AM EDT
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                                                      We, the people of this country, elected Barack Obama president in 2008. We then elected a bunch of Republicans to Congress and the States in 2010 promising actions to create jobs. Now we are told by the polls that the 2012 election is a toss up between Democrats and Republicans. My sense is that the Republicans have shifted far to the right on social and economic issues while Democrats have become significantly less liberal. The clear losers of the conservative agenda would seem to be the middle class, ethnic minorities and the poor. If this is so then why is there so much voter support for the conservative agenda? Are we unable or unwilling to understand the Republican drives for lower taxes for the rich, deregulation of Wall Street, voter suppression and women's rights restrictions? Does anybody really understand the visceral response against extending health care in the richest country in the world with 50 million people uninsured and uncounted deaths due to lack of medical attention? I don't understand us anymore. Strong emotions, false beliefs and the power of money seem to rule the day rather than a concern for the ordinary people of this great country.

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                                                      Reply#25 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:58 AM EDT

                                                      The health system of our country is on is on an unsustainable path. Costs are out of control. Obama ran a campaign to reform our health system....and what did he do. He expanded the broken system by 12,000,000 people. And who is to pay for this? Why the people on Medicare. He will take it our of their budget, but don't worry, the short fall will be made up by a reduction in fraud and waste. What a crock of crap.

                                                      I sure agree with you that ordinary people in our great country deserve affordable health care. It is just that we will not get it from Obama.

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                                                      #25.1 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

                                                      Bill H - and the GOP has said over and over again they have a better idea for healthcare yet they have produced NOTHING to show us. That in itself should concern you. As usual the GOP talks a strong game - like they did about jobs in 2010 - then comes through with NOTHING!

                                                      Obama/Biden 2012

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                                                      #25.2 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:39 PM EDT

                                                      Sometimes nothing is not so bad.

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                                                      #25.3 - Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:17 PM EDT

                                                      Sanity

                                                      Yes there is a better idea and Romney has already done it in Massachusetts's- A open free market based system put together with the co-operation of state insurance and health care professionals and this is why it is so successful.

                                                      Each state needs to adopt their own system to fit the conditions and circumstances of the state as Romney Care was tailor made for the conditions of Massachusetts's

                                                      This is the vision to have the power given back to the states and its people as stated in the constitution.

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                                                      #25.4 - Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:12 AM EDT
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