It is clearly demonstrated that states with stricter gun laws have far fewer gun deaths.

There is significant support among republican gun owners for safer gun laws, but the NRA moguls ~ will spin away on their AKAs >>>>>.

And Brian Williams is straight forward. It is the BAIN of Democrats, but we aim to tell the truth.

ROMNEY: "Well this person shouldn't have had any kind of weapons and bombs and other devices and it was illegal for him to have many of those things already.

Really? And just where did Romney get his information? Not here, apparently:

"This is an unspeakable tragedy, and we join with all Americans in offering our prayerful support," Larry Whiteley, Manager of Bass Pro Shops Communications, at Springfield, Mo. corp. headquarters, said.

"Based on the records we have reviewed, personnel in our Denver store
correctly and fully followed all federal requirements with respect to the sale of one shotgun and one handgun to the individual identified in this incident. Background checks, as required by federal law, were properly conducted, and he was approved. Again, our hearts go out to the victims and their families. We also offer our support and appreciation to the law enforcement and emergency response professionals and all others who responded to give aid to these innocent victims."

The other chain store, Gander Mountain, also offered their condolences.

"Gander Mountain fully cooperates with law enforcement in criminal
investigations like the one regarding the tragic events in Colorado," Jess
Myers, media and public relations specialist, told CBS News in a statement. "We
operate in strict compliance with all local, state, and federal laws regarding
firearms ownership and are fully cooperating with this on-going investigation"

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477014/colo-shooter-purchased-guns-legally-from-3-different-stores/

The bolding is mine. And I'm not here to argue gun control laws. I'm just saying perhaps Mr. Romney should do a little fact-checking before he does too many more interviews.

JoAnne -- Par for the course with Romney. Great post with facts.

Romney can't really say much. the NRA has given him a ton of money, what's he gonna say? 'Gun controls laws need to be stricter'?

I'm a staunch believer in the 2nd ammendment.

Everyone should be part of a militia, with training and everything.

Mandatory Military Service for all! :)

The burning question is, did Brian Williams ask any questions that weren't softballs covered in whipped cream?

Because, you know, the most important thing is that him and Mittens are buddies.

The 1st Amendment protects my right NOT TO GET SHOT.

And YOU don't have the "Right" to possess assault weapons.

Ah shoot Tek - gun laws, smun laws.

Murder is already illegal, and yet some among us continue to violate that law.

But I will say that now might be a fine time to pick up another "assault" rifle.

Oh and one more thing - HURRAY Ron Paul - audit the living hell out of the FED.

You know it has promised and backed an insane amount of money. I'm guessing over a hundred T.

"Turns out a bunch of people got hurt real bad walking over burning coals for Tony Robbins".

True enough - 21 people, apparently. But gee, the other 5979 who did it were apparently just fine:

"Twenty-one people were treated for burns after walking across a bed of hot coals at an inspirational event hosted by motivational speaker Tony Robbins in San Jose, Calif., last week. About 6,000 people reportedly participated in the firewalk. Why were most of them not injured?

Because coal isn't a very good conductor of heat. In other words, though coal can get very hot—usually between 1,000 F and 2,000 F—it can't transmit the heat to other materials very efficiently. When flesh comes into contact with a heated material that's a good conductor of heat, such as metal, it usually results in a burn because the metal heats up the flesh quickly. But coal—and especially the ash coating a burning coal—doesn't conduct heat very well. So when flesh comes into contact with it, the flesh cools down the outer surface of the coal faster than heat can move from below the surface of the coal and sear the flesh, at least initially. It's the same principle that allows you to stick your hand into a hot oven without getting burned or briefly touch a loaf of bread baking in the oven, even though you'd get burned if you touched the sides of the oven or kept your hand on the loaf for more than a few seconds. (Bread, like coal, is not an efficient thermal conductor.)

That said, there are dangers associated with firewalking: If you stand on a
hot coal for too long instead of moving quickly or if there are any bits of
metal, wood, or sap (which are better thermal conductors than coal) in the fire, you could get burned. The same is true if a hot piece of coal gets stuck to your foot during the walk. The scope of Robbins' firewalk in San Jose—6,000 people sharing a dozen 10-foot-long lanes of coals—might have made it more likely for firewalkers to get held up on the coals, increasing their chance of being injured. (Most traditional firewalking rituals involve only one dozen to two dozen people on a single lane of coals.) Also, minor burns and blisters are common results of even successful firewalking."

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2012/07/tony_robbins_firewalking_injuries_why_doesn_t_everyone_who_walks_on_hot_coals_get_burned_.html

Which is really more than any of us ever really needed to know about firewalking. And still doesn't answer the really, ummmm, "burning" question - namely, will 6,000 people ever even walk across the street to see Mitt Romney?

So, um backhouse perhaps you can identify a gun that does not 'assault?'

You do, um, know what a gun is and what they do?

Is there on out there that does not propel lead at high velocity? If so, prolly is not a gun.

You are the best Backhouse. Thanks for the entertainment.

Knock it off WCA. Getting tired of you harassing Amy.

Demonstrates clearly your inability to come up with a cogent post. You don't have ideas, you have hatred. And your imitation of Spanky is wearing thin.

So JoAnne, are you actually saying Mitt will get less than 6,000 votes?

Really?

Huh.

Oh and Yeah WCA. It appears that NewDay does not feel as though Amy care articulate on her own behalf.

How sad.

I like half of Ron Paul. The foreign policy half :D

Also, auditing the fed.

"Sunlight is the best disinfectant." Slogan of the 1930's when we fixed the financial industry, only to have it repealed in the 80's and 90's.

Too bad the SC doesn't agree with the SEC on that one.

And methinks the FED doesn't agree with the SEC either.

Getting tired of you harassing Amy.

WCA was having a rough go at it there for awhile on his own, I see where his "apron" has now shown up to hide behind!

And your imitation of Spanky is wearing thin.

How cute!

A SpankMe wannabe!

I don't think we have one option. I think we have quite a few.

I prefer 'don't vote for incumbents in congress' and 'kick the republicans out of the house', personally.

So that's a few options, right?

What are the chances Brian Williams got to ask Romney ONE question that wasn't submitted to his handlers prior to the interview? My guess is 0%. He is so tied to his handlers and his talking points they don't dare let him wander.

WCA - again with the Chicago reference. Why don't you talk New Orleans? Very lax laws there - very high murder rate. Why is that?

Excellent observation, JoAnne,

I'm just saying perhaps Mr. Romney should do a little fact-checking before he does too many more interviews.

I too am looking forward to the full interview this evening and hope he answers SOMETHING directly!

WCA - again with the Chicago reference. Why don't you talk New Orleans? Very lax laws there - very high murder rate. Why is that?

That just helps re-enforce the notion that criminals do not heed gun laws period.

When seconds matter, the police are minutes away!

JoAnne - did that firewalk here in Chicago and I almost chickened out at the last minute. It's a fast walk but my guess is, if you hesitate, you're going to hurt. Not a single little twinge on my feet and the others who did it here were fine.

You're warned ahead of time about the dangers of burns and there are papers signed so they can't be held liable. Interesting so many had problems.

So you must insult someone you don't know IXLR8? Could it be that you make other reader's "skin crawl"?

You have an ignore function, you don't like what Feisty writes....

USE IT!

If one fires a gun at a target are we assaulting the target? If we hunt down a moose and kill it have we assaulted the moose? If we us a sharp instrument to kill the cow or the pig for food have we assaulted those critters? When we talk about assault weapons we are usually talking about those designed only for killing people and not for target or sport purposes. How many 100 round magazines does one need to take down a moose or Bambi? How many 100 round magazines does it take to score a bullseye on a target (lousey shot)? Unless one plans on wreaking mayhem as happened at Columbine or at the Cinema in Colorado there really is no need for automatic or semi-automatic weapons. Single shot weapons, if someone bent on killing had one, can be used to kill too but the mayhem, one would think, would be vastly reduced.

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Romney's position is cowardly. There has to be a way to keep assault weapons away from the nuts.

Obama doesn't need to debate gun control. Hillary will sign the small arms treaty at the U.N. this Friday & the "debate" will be over.

What the heck does my heart have to do with it? Is he saying that American hearts created mass murderers and gun violence?

Does that make any sense? Perhaps we should discuss this in a quiet room.

Since the "alleged" shooter's actions turned out to be SO good for gun sales in Colorado, Willard is probably thrilled - what's good for business is good for the country, right?

Brackton Barlow you are an idiot. When the democrats wanted to restrict guns in 1994 what happened, most of the democrats were voted out of office. If americans want guns let then have it. its enough leave the democrats alone. At least Mittens signed an assault weapons ban in Mass, Have you asked him why the ban should not be extended to the whole of america?

hey mitt!! you already have two strikes and no balls. step up to the plate and make some sense of anything.

Turns out a bunch of people got hurt real bad walking over burning coals for Tony Robbins, kind of like you have vowed to do for Obama.

That's actually pretty funny! No worries, I don't feel picked on by WCA. If I didn't have a sense of humor, how could I have gotten through the Bush years?

PS: I LOVE Obama! Best President ever!

Obama 2012!!

Why place gun restrictions on 100% of Americans, just because 2% are criminals. It is a proven fact that the criminals will get their weapons anyway. If more people carried a weapon, far fewer crimes would be committed. How many of the people in that theater, might still be alive if at least 1 person was able to take that lunatic out?

Wake up SHEEPLE, more laws WILL NOT make this country safer. Americans will make this country safer, by protecting their fellow American. Look at history, before the lawyers screwed up this country. Fewer gun laws and fewer crimes. Simple math people. People have the right to defend themselves. We do not need the government to do it for us. They can't!.

Wow, what a non-answer to a serious question. Romney and his staff had to know that question or a similar one was coming and yet it was a ridiculous answer. In Mitt's world, we only need to change the hearts of Americans because if we do that, 100 round ammo clips and AR-15's won't matter since our hearts are changed. What if it isn't the heart that's the problem but rather a sick mind?

Why does Mitt Romney always looks as if he swallowed a live canary or, as he looked in this video, as if one were hovering nearby to enter his mouth the moment he opens it?

USA Ultimately, keep buying what the gun makers are telling the NRA to sell you.

Mother Cluster Duck - I believe you said it perfectly:

hey mitt!! you already have two strikes and no balls

Perfect!

Big E: You may want to fact check that small arms treaty stuff. Oh I know, you aren't one for facts!

Well, Jody, now that you've fulfilled your lib obligation to proclaim the conservative guy a moron, what is your lib solution? I would very much like it if youy lefties would actually offer some substance, instead of the customary denigration and vitriol.

WCA-

I dispute the entirety of your argument :) sorry, man.

If you had one of your reliable pistols in Aurora, you'd be another body on the floor.

Holmes there had a Sherlock-esque idea (see what I did there?).

He wore Type IV body armor. And used smoke grenades. And a gas mask.

It's gotten to where average citizens can procure gear that is better than most counties military-issue.

And cops are citing a need for UAV's.

It's gone absolutely retarded.

My argument is simple.

If you don't hunt for food with it, you don't need it.

If you're worried about protection, buy a shotgun.

Mitt the Zitt has to release his tax returns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For "BACKHOUSE":And YOU don't have the "Right" to possess assault weapons.

As an armed service member of 38 years and having served in six hostile fire tours you comment shows you have NO IDEA what you are saying. The term "assault weapons" was coined by news media and has become accepted language. The truth is THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN ASSAULT WEAPON. When you mount an assault, you use whatever is handy (rocks, sticks, knives, you pick it) so stop using "seeded" terms.

Most importantly, you (and I) have a constitional ammendment stating "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Not even "infringed" let alone "restricted". So, YOU ARE INCORRECT

amy sounds to me that you are taking full advantage of all of the gov handouts is why you think obama is so great. 99 weeks unemployment,welfare check.foodstamps,free this and free that to you,but cost us productive members of society dearly!! so tell me are you productive?? or deductive??

i happen to think that obama and the democrats are a great success.

they are succeeding at destroying this country,where osama and alkaida failed

This shooting in Colorado is all Obamas fault. If he had stricter gun laws enacted when he became president none of this would have happened.

Obama just lost my vote.

"Changing the heart of the American people may well be what's essential, to improve the lots of the American people."

So, in other words, his plan is to do the same thing, and hope for different results. Figures.

I agree with everyone on the "frustration with Media who lie and distort the truth." (thank you for the phrase WCA)

Let's start the boycott with the station that went to the Florida State Supreme Court to defend their "right" to change the facts of a story (i.e. - lie) regarding bovine growth hormone and its link to cancer. The FOX News lawyer said (sic) it was their right to lie under freedom of speech in spite of being found to have (as found by and earlier court ruling) "acted intentionally and deliberately to falsify or distort the plaintiffs' news reporting on BGH."

And with respect to the guns in Chicago, per the ATF, the single highest source of guns used in illegal activity in Chicago come from Indiana which has fewer gun purchase requirements and more access (note - there are NO gun shops in Chicago).

Gun related criminal activity (spelled killings and assaults) happen in Chicago in spite of tough laws, but the guns have to come from somewhere. The high impacts of gun crime in Chicago is specifically related to the lack of gun control and the ease of acquisition in other nearby areas.

Personally I am in favor of one set of national standards for gun ownership and licenses, sales, and tracking of sales. I also believe the "gun show loophole" needs to go away.

Off topic -

Ron Paul

House overwhelmingly adopted his longstanding proposal to audit the Federal Reserve Wednesday, in a 327-98 vote.

ROMNEY: "Well this person shouldn't have had any kind of weapons and bombs and other devices and it was illegal for him to have many of those things already. But he had them. And so we can sometimes hope that just changing the law will make all bad things go away. It won't. Changing the heart of the American people may well be what's essential, to improve the lots of the American people."

Just how do you "change of heart of the American people?" So, he's saying that the US has one collective heart?

Romney wouldn't shoot anything. He'd have the hired help do the work. I can't believe that this guy is on the charts in any polls. Please, folks--not Bush III. I say that because it seems that Karl Rove has some puppetry going on.

One question, how much did the NRA donate to Romney's campaign fund. Total amount please.

Keeping 250,000,000 guns out of the hands of Americans would save a lot of children's lives each year. An estimated 1,000 are shot and killed each year. We need to stop this slaughter. I read nothing about guns used to save lives only for mass murders of family, neighbors or innocent bystanders. The 2nd Amendment needs to be abolished. Usually in fits of anger or unstable people who should never have guns. Fort Hood had everyone carrying a gun and it didn't stop the soldier from killing 16.

I'm just saying perhaps Mr. Romney should do a little fact-checking before he does too many more interviews.

The problem there is that Mitts really doesn't seem to care much about pesky little things like FACTS.

I don't know about this changing hearts thing, but it would definitely help to have a sure-fire way to diagnose dangerous mental illness before people hit a crisis point. Until that time, regulations against civilians buying things like assault rifles, designed for suppression fire of hundreds of rounds per minute, might be a good place to start. We can't keep simply ignoring the "well regulated" part of the 2nd Amendment.

Many members of the Interahamwe and Impuzamugambi were armed only with machetes. Even after the 1993 peace agreement signed in Arusha, businessmen close to General Habyarimana imported 581,000 machetes from China^[15] for Hutu use in killing Tutsi, because machetes were cheaper than guns.^[16] In a 2000 news story, The Guardian reported, "The former Secretary-General of the United Nations, Boutros Boutros-Ghali, played a leading role in supplying weapons to the Hutu regime which carried out a campaign of genocide against the Tutsis in Rwanda in 1994. As Minister of Foreign Affairs in Egypt, Boutros-Ghali facilitated an arms deal in 1990, which was to result in $26 million (£18m) of mortar bombs, rocket launchers, grenades and ammunition being flown from Cairo to Rwanda. The arms were used by Hutus in attacks which led to up to a million deaths.

People who are determined to kill will do so. More people were killed by the 9/11 attacks and they used box cutters to steal the airplanes. The Oklahoma City bomber used fertilizer and he killed more. It isn't the guns but the person behind the gun that is the problem. We are fortunate that the sick person who killed the innocents in the theatre didn't use more lethal weapons like bombs or fire since human life meant nothing to him.

Romney has gotten almost good as Obama at smoothly avoiding an answer.

Has Obama met his match at being vague?

Or has Romney merely learned to be as non-committal as Obama?

Senate Rejects Republican Tax Plan Passes the Democratic Tax Plan
The Senate today voted down a tax plan crafted by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) by a vote of 45-54. The plan would have extended all of the Bush tax cuts — including those on income in excess of $250,000 — while eliminating tax credits that benefit 20 million working families. Due to an agreement with Democrats, the bill only needed a simple majority, rather than a filibuster-proof supermajority, to pass. Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR) was the lone Democrat to vote in favor of the plan, while Sens. Susan Collins (R-ME) and Scott Brown (R-MA) voted against it.
Then the Senate accepted the Democratic tax plan, which extends the Bush tax cuts for income up to $250,000, by a vote of 51-48. Senators Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Jim Webb (D-Va.) voted with the GOP to reject the proposal.
So what will John Boehner and the House do with this Senate bill???

Ummm bat, when the 'fathers' of the Constitution were writing those laws, do you REALLY believe they were thinking 100's of years past the use of MUSKETS and the possibility of future automatic weapons that can shoot a 100 rounds a minute being the same thing, or that it was just related to the weapons of that time period? If the laws were only relative to the time period, as many of the laws of the Constitution ARE and WERE, and HAVE been changed/amended with time and with accordance to the change/advancement of society through the years, why are you so fervent as to NOT change/amend the 2nd amendment to fit THIS era, not 1776?

Just wondering.....Is a pair of scissors considered an assault weapon? You know...the ones Romney used back in school when his gang of thugs assaulted that student and held him down while Romney assaulted the guy by cutting off his hair? ....Yeah....that pair of scissors...assault weapon or not?...Why didn't Romney get put in jail for that? Riding daddy's coat tails? ROMNEY THE ASSAULTER!

Vote President Obama/Biden 2012

The gun laws in this country will never change as long as the Gun Lobby holds one to the head of every politician/would be politician in this country. Sounds like tyranny to me. And the pols are a bunch of craven whores pandering to their gun pimps.

Why would an ordinary citizen have need of an automatic weapon and body armor ?

Backhouse "And YOU don't have the "Right" to possess assault weapons."

True, but 'assault weapons' are fully automatic, and have been illegal for many generations, so nothing has changed in that regard. So what do you propose - outlaw something that's already illegal to own?

To Backhouse post 1.2,

What a load of bulls$it. The facts are that the states and cities with the most strict gun laws are the most violent. Does Chicago and Washington DC ring a bell? Also, where did you get your "facts" that a "significant" number of Republicans support stricter gun laws? Please state source (and no, MSNBC, CNN and NBC do not count).

Backhouse post 1.9,

I DO have a right to own assault weapons if I so choose. So get over it.

Spider, just call him like I see him but you're the one who called the conservative guy a moron, not me.

A National gun registry, minimum national guideline laws such as no direct sales of fire arms at gun shows; minimum waiting periods, background checks; no transfers of weapons without notification of transfer. No internet sales of weapons or ammunition clips, limit the size of ammo clips and either ban assault weapons or at least require a more rigid permit process with lengthy background checks. We have a terrorist watch list which prevents suspected terrorists from getting on an airplane but they can buy all the guns and ammo they want; that doesn't even make good sense. There are simple, common sense restrictions that would not interfere with a person's right to own a gun. A few days of inconvenience during the check and waiting period. Considering the carnage in Aurora, a little inconvenience doesn't seem much to ask.

I don't claim or think that placing restrictions will prevent every person determined to kill from doing so but at least if they can't shoot so many rounds before re-loading, it gives others a chance to stop the carnage. My complaint is we simply make it way too easy to obtain too many and too much.

Backhouse said-----

It is clearly demonstrated that states with stricter gun laws have far fewer gun deaths.

There is significant support among republican gun owners for safer gun laws, but the NRA moguls ~ will spin away on their AKAs >>>>>.

check your facts again Backhouse--gun laws in chicago are very strict and they have how many murders by gun this year?if you dont like guns dont buy one,post a sign in your yard stating that you are anti gun and see what happens.crimanals will always get guns and ammo.most of your mass killings happen where you are not allowed to carry concealed or not,ie.va.tech and movie theatre.not supposed to have guns in banks niether but they get robbed at gun point.strictor gun laws or banning guns is like banning drugs,what a joke,billions spent on the war on drugs and where has that got us,how bout we spend billions on the war on guns and see how well govt does with that.You anti-gun nuts make me sick and just because one moron goes and flips his rocker you want to ban something.well i want to ban you anti-gun morons from living in our United States but sadley it aint going to happen.You have your right to protest the guns by free speech as said in the constitution but on that same paper it tells me i have the right to keep and bear arms.and if you dont like all of the constitution and just want to have in it what you want,buy an island somewhere and make your own laws and govern them there.thank you and have a good day

clwyd -

OK, you probably know this, but here goes anyway -

The Fort Hood shooting took place in an area where NO troops were allowed to be armed Body count was 13.

If you want to read about arms being used to prevent harm to citizens, you need to go somewhere other than the main stream media - say the FBI home page. The issue is that the media doesn't report it.

The 1st amendment really has to go - it allows people like you to spew lies and non-sense in a public forum at will. <sarcasm here for those who don;t get it>

greg - the City of Chicago is not a state . . . just sayin' . . .

It is amazing how utterly ignorant libs are of guns and gun laws.

What next .... start talking about banning .22 rifles?

Wait ... they already are!

Dennis, Columbus, Ohio "So what will John Boehner and the House do with this Senate bill???"

Perhaps they will do the same thing that Harry Reid has done with about 25 jobs bills passed by the Republican House - sit on it.

Hey - here's an idea - Boehner should make a deal with Reid to allow an up or down vote on the Senate bill if Reid will allow an up or down vote on those 25 House bills.

Fantomdog: thank you for a thoughtful post.

I've said it before: if the NRA leadership, mental midgets all, want to agree that anyone can have a musket loader, I'm all for it.

But at some point, rational people must agree that there are those who should never have a gun.

The only way this changes is if the decent people who have the great misfortune of belonging to that outlaw organization take control and start canceling memberships.

Money always talks.

Brian Williams ...what a joke. Usewd to be reporters were pretty much middle class people reporting. Now they have multi million dollar contracts and stepped out of the realm of the common man and woman.

I was reading about Walter Cronkite and his feb 1968 TV news Broad cast. Will never forget how he spoke the truth about the Viet Nam War. It was a bench mark in journalism. The common man had spoken, telling the truth as he saw it and not how they told him he saw it.

These fluff reporters have lost all sense of responsible reporting. $$$$$ money talks!

at matthew did i call Chigago a state? no .was just stating a fact of a place that has strict gun laws

Greg Smith...since you are obviously a flaming patriot...Can you answer one question without throwing a fit?

Do you think it is appropriate for Mitt Romney to discuss US gun laws on foreign soil during a time when our country is at war?

Sean Hannity was ready to lynch the Dixie Chicks for doing less...Are you ready to declare Mitt Romney a traitor also? The Dixie Chicks were private citizens representing their personal opinions...Mitt Romney represents one of the two predominant political parties in the US and is a candidate for president. Do you and Mr. Hannity want him executed, or just merely denied access back in to our country?

Oh great another “interview” with Mr.1%. Excuse me if I ignore every word this serial liar utters…… Am I the only one fed up with this phony SOB?

These interviews are of no value what so ever because over the past 40 plus years the Republican Party has morphed into a steaming pile of lies and spin, and who the hell wants to hear more lies. Anything coming from the GOP these days is nothing but B.S. The Republican Party hasn’t represented the American people for decades and as amazing as it seems continues to grow more evil by the day.

It used to be the media would protect the public from twisted information and lies but lately the media is cheer leading both sides even if one side [the Republican Party] never tells the truth. We used to have a free press but now all major media outlets are controlled by Republicans so instead of watching the news it’s more like watching a TV soap opera; all fantasy and no substance. It’s no wonder the public is discussed with the whole corrupt self serving system.

All you need is a box cutter and an airplane...you can kill thousands. Just wait until somebody hacks a drone and uses it to kill with. A few college kids already proved it can happen.

The only way this changes is if the decent people who have the great misfortune of belonging to that outlaw organization take control and start canceling memberships.

They are decent, well informed and highly intelligent ...

.... but when you have a federal government / a political party that intentionally lets 2,500 assault rifles walk / go to drug cartels in an effort to support the liberal lie of "90% of the assault weapons found at Mexican crime scenes come from the United States" .... when they are so ideologically depraved as to actually, knowingly allow the deaths of 100s of innocent citizens in pursuit of their gun agenda - the decent people will support the NRA to the hilt.

They get it.

There is no other choice when the other party is this deginerate, to go to such evil and immoral lengths.

Want to dispute this newday .... please put up a cogent response.

Tell us why that after 1 1/2 years, the Obama administration will not say who is responsible for Fast and Furious .... who ordered it ... why was Mexico not informed ... why were agents ordered to stand down and let guns walk ... why were there no tracking devices .... HOW IN THE HELL COULD THIS HAVE EVEN POSSIBLY WORKED?

2,500 assault rifles ... 200+ deaths ... deaths of 2 US agents .... and it is Sargent Schultz Obama - I know nothing ... no one knows anything .... AND OBAMA FILES AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO PREVENT THE TRUTH FROM COMING OUT.

Decent People?

How detached from reality can you be?

The House has only presented a few bills that may create jobs. The 25 number is a hoax. When you look at some of those bills they have NOTHING to do with job creation.

Must be a slow day at "messit up MSNBC." Post a tiny portion of a Romney interview and the Liberal "know nothings" go wild with their usual fare. Even that doesn't keep their attention for long, considering the number of off topic comments. Just another opportunity for the drones to vainly attempt to support this failed Presidency and the really poor job he is doing campaigning for re-election.

Back to the article. The Gun Control lobby is once again, trying to drum up business. And once again, the Gun Control lobby is addressingthe props, not the actual problem. Solve the problem, don't take away the props used by the problem because the problem will still be there even if the guns are taken away. Bob and Tom said it best: "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

Wow, I can tell there are a lot of bleeding heart liberals on this site commenting.

For

teknishan

If you had one of your reliable pistols in Aurora, you'd be another body on the floor. He wore Type IV body armor. And used smoke grenades.

Getting shot, even with body armor on, throws you off your game. If multiple shots are reigning in on you, you will not be able to sustain the onslaught. He, would be on the floor. Not to mention, his legs, arms and head were not protected from getting hit with a round. So yes, someone with a CC could have saved lives in that theater.

I will say that I agree with USA and with bat. I also agree with Ice T. Taking away guns doesn’t mean that you will stop mass murders from happening. They can find other ways (namely explosives) to do so.

If someone wants to inflict mass casualties on people, they will do so. There needs to be a way to keep people like that from obtaining firearms, but until that way is figured out so that it does not infringe on the rest of us owning our weapons, it will never happen.

ROY,

Boehner has no choice but to shelve it because any vote on it becomes a no win for Republicans since they are the majority.

Backhouse

The 1st Amendment protects my right NOT TO GET SHOT.

And YOU don't have the "Right" to possess assault weapons.

You are correct on one thing: None of us has a right to possess assault weapons. I assume you actually mean TRUE assault weapons, and not just semi-automatic rifles and/or shotguns and/or pistols.

That bit about the 1st Amendment? No such protection in it.

at shockedanddisgusted---PBO stated that the WAR ON TERROR was over so what war are we in?We do have troops in countries that have hostile fire but our POTUS(Barrak Obama)said the war was over.

Tallguy-

Yeah?

I got shot while wearing IBA and shot the man back in about 3 seconds.

He didn't have IBA.

Guess who won?

And I wasn't using smoke grenades, NVG's, or much else.

Time for you to go do some youtube-ing.

I have my combat action ribbon, do you?

Move along, nothin to see here.

@Backhouse

It is clearly demonstrated that states with stricter gun laws have far fewer gun deaths.

It is clearly demonstrated that liberals make baseless assumptions and then state them as if they were fact. -http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000/

Notice how DC has some of the strictest laws on the books but tops the list. And of course the reality is that "gun deaths" has NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. When you look at the firearm murder rate you can CLEARLY see that the level of gun laws is almost irrelevant-http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state (scroll down to list and click on "firearms murders per 100,000 pop" column)

Nice try but don't get too dizzy spinning.

Who feels more safe now that I can bring my gun more places than my cigarettes?

D.C sure does top that list.

And I hope you were being sarcastic...

did you notice that Virginia borders/encompasses half of DC?

And that concealed carry is legal in Virginia?

I love how it says 'DC'...as the first-place...and then 20 of the next 22 are republican STATES and not CITIES.

States which have concealed carry laws.

That's awesome.

...so Greg plays semantics while throwing the good men and women serving our country in Afghanistan under the bus...in a feeble effort to defend someone his own people would declare a traitor. Does it feel good to stoop that low?

I do not know a single Republican that would let someone that spits on our military sit at their table. What do you and Mr Hannity call yourselves now, Greg? To repeat the question you seemed to have missed...Do you and Mr Hannity wish for Romney to be executed, or do you think he should just be denied access back into our country? (You only have to access FOX archives to find out what Mr Hannity thinks should happen to Mitt...)

Personally - guys who simply must have their guns - big guns and lots of them - are confirming that they consider themselves lacking in other areas. It is the same reason why they drive Hummers or big trucks with big wheels. It announces that they are big, tough guys. To me it means small brains and small ... no need for me to elaborate further - I'm sure you all know where I'm going with this.

Ask those folks down in Mexico how gun control is working for them. All the bad guys have them and no one else. Its even worse that Chicago.

@shockedanddisgusted---I did not throw anyone under the bus,I stated a fact.i have members of my family in the military.you asked a question that was not factual either by mistake or by your own ignorance.If the POTUS said that the WAR ON TERROR was over then that means it is over.Again i will say that we have our troops overseas in countries with hostile fire taken place and I respect them and thank them eveyday for my freedom they defend,but as for Romney speaking overseas about our gun laws in a time of war,Ill ask you again,by the statement of President Obama that THE WAR ON TERROR is over--What war our we in?

Greg. You know as well as I do that President Obama put an end to the propaganda campaign the Bush regime called the "war on terror"...which was never properly defined by your people. You also know that the only "war" President Obama declared over was the war in Iraq. You have spit in the face of all Americans serving our country in Afghanistan so that you can play a little game of semantics and, unsuccessfully, defend a spineless coward that you and your own would have declared a traitor.

How much lower do you wish to sink to defend this creep?

The war started in afghanistan and then to iraq sothey are combined as the war on terror.as for defending this creep-i have yet to defend Obama in anything here that i have wrote.

Wow. I am getting tired of comment sections being dominated by Feisty and Spanky quarrelling with each other. Which of you will "human-up" and stop the name calling?

Maybe if there was more civilityon these comment boards they would not degenerate into **** throwing contests like they always seem to do. Being first to comment is certainly not the same as making a thoughtful comment.

Here's my bias: Obama 2012!

Judyaz

Big E: You may want to fact check that small arms treaty stuff. Oh I know, you aren't one for facts!

Oh, you mean like using Snopes? What if we find out that Snopes is a hoax?

americanpatriotalliance(dot)com/smallarmstreaty/

Or, barring that, I'm sure the almighty EO could be used to some degree.

Free heart transplants for everyone. Romneys paying.

Speaking of Olympics did anyone see the new Obama superpac ad with Romney at the Olympics. The voice over talks (LIES) about Romney's outsourcing of jobs while at Bain.

Check it out. It has to be the most embarrassing negative ad ever run.

Another Ad worth seeing would be the Scott Brown Ad crapping on Obama and Warren for their Marxist views.

Brockton - no lies there - it's true. Romney outsourced jobs while at Bain. Get used to it. There will be new ads with some of the employees whose jobs were outsourced by Romney - you won't like those either. The truth always hurts. Embarrassing to be a Republican when all you've got is Romney!

Obama/Biden 2012

Let's stipulate that Romney outsourced some jobs in order to keep a private company sustainable and in business.

How is Obama going to explain spending 29 BILLION DOLLARS of TAXPAYER money through the stimulus on outsourcing thousands of jobs.

Is this an argument you libbies really want? I'm hoping yes. Because the debates will turn into a bloodbath for poor Obama.

Brockton - Obama will wipe the floor with Romney. Romney can't talk without his handlers having the questions ahead of time - then he still bobbles everything. He has no answers because he doesn't have an original thought.

You righties have no idea of the mess Romney is in. Get used to it. It's about to get MUCH worse!

Obama/Biden 2012

Seeking -- we saw first hand just last week what happens to Obama when he goes off teleprompter.

He can't help but spew Marxist views. Hell, check out his own book Dreams of my Father. Count how many times he refers to his mentor Frank.

Then google Frank Davis Marshall. Enlighten yourself.

SS So Bain profits are bad when related to Romney but good for the Democrats to take for political contributions? and by the way these links actually take you to specific examples.

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/21/democrats_and_bain_2/

http://articles.boston.com/2012-05-23/news/31828307_1_obama-campaign-mitt-romney-romney-claims

http://lbo-news.com/2012/05/26/bain-actually-loves-dems/

Oh and by the way....

Romney this year went like 26 - 0 in debates. And that was against 6 or more rivals in each.

26-0 in debates against what everyone said was the weakest field of candidates ever.

Romney truly is an idiot. You can't change hearts...yeah...do duh you moron...you can't tell what kook is going to fly off the handle and take out 50 people with him but if we put limits on the types of firearms and weapons that are legal for purchase, you would put a huge hurdle between these sociopaths and their objective of taking out as many as possible in as little time as possible. We don't need legal semi-automatics and pistols/handguns...and I say this as the owner of a shotgun and rifle. Romney is an F&$%ing twinkie and he spouts off whatever talking points are handed to him to say by whatever huge monied interest has his ear.

lol... so, Romney was able to beat Whackado Bachmann, Painkiller Perry, 9-9-9 Cain and Taliban Santorum, JUST by keeping his yap shut and letting them all shoot themselves in their collective feet, and you think he's going to win in a head-to-head with a well-prepared, experienced, rational and cool incumbent?

Romney this year went like 26 - 0 in debates. And that was against 6 or more rivals in each.

Like wow, brockton. Like... that's like being the smartest kid on the short bus. Like...shoot for the stars...like...brockton.

Mentioning teleprompters and marxism simply means you are...like...only capable of parroting the crap your grand wizard is feeding you...like...totally...like...brockton.

Just curious...can you lie AND flip your hair at the same time?

barlow, he is undefeated in debates but winless in elections.

Brockton - I'm still laughing at your post. So Romney went 26-0 (and actually that's a lie as his opponents were rated higher in some debates) over the poorest slate of candidates in the history of our country? You count THAT a win for Romney? He would have had the same degree of difficulty if he had debated a horse! Please - you're embarrassing yourself now and you have to know it.

Our President said nothing wrong about business success - as many businessmen have agreed. And, the stupid teleprompter comment - you of course KNOW Romney uses one too, right? I realize it's hard to tell since he mumbles all the time.

Oh and the Marxist insert - makes you look as totally ignorant and unintelligent as you clearly are. Pathetic how low the GOP has sunk.

Obama will wipe the floor with Romney - the empty suit.

You're attempts to support Romney only point out what an ignorant buffoon both of you are.

Obama/Biden 2012

Brockton,

Top of the garbage heap is still a garbage heap.

Job1 Another little tidbit into Willard's character - When he decided to run for Gov in Mass rather than Utah

He went before "the powers that be" in the Mormon Church to get a special dispensation to be "pro-choice" because he would be running for Gov in a liberal state

The Mormon Church complied for him to lie about his real opinion and the Church's

Willard has no Moral Compass and I guess that also goes for the Mormon Church

That's Okay Willard - DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN

This is the creed that Willard lives by

By the way this was reported by a Boston Globe investigative journalist

What do we know about Romney and his position on assault weapons?

Romney signs ban on assault weapons as Governor in 2004.

True to his own nature, the flip flop begins the next years when the NRA gets a hold of him. ROMNEY FLIP FLOPS AGAIN!!!

Ref below : Wall street Journal site 7-20-12 blog.wsj.com

Republican presidential contender Mitt Romney opposes all new gun control laws today, but that wasn’t always the case. In 2004, as governor, he signed a permanent assault weapons ban into law in Massachusetts. The law included other elements welcomed by gun-rights supporters, but Mr. Romney defended the assault weapons provision on its own merits.

“I believe the people should have the right to bear arms, but I don’t believe that we have to have assault weapons as part of our personal arsenal,” he said on Fox News in 2004.
The federal assault weapons ban expired in 2004. Today, Mr. Romney’s campaign Web site says no new laws are needed. “Like the majority of Americans, Mitt does not believe that the United States needs additional laws that restrict the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms,” the site says.

The issue is in the news again in the wake of the Colorado rampage that killed 12 people early Friday. One of the guns used by the killer was an AR-15 assault rifle, police said.

Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said, “As he has repeatedly said, Gov. Romney believes that the best way to prevent gun violence is to vigorously enforce our laws.”

As the Journal reported last year, the change began in 2005. In May of that year, Mr. Romney declared a “Right to Bear Arms Day,” and the governor’s top aides began meeting almost monthly with the Gun Owners’ Action League. Mr. Romney also signed legislation cutting some red tape detested by gun owners in November 2005, and less than a year later he became a member of the National Rifle Association.

starsailing - what do we know about Romney's position on ANYTHING????

Brock...still trying to say Romney didn't lie about outsourcing jobs while at Bain.

ROMNEY IS KING OF OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS!

Too late for spinning Borock.......Romney choked that chicken a long time ago. Brags for years he was in charge of Bain up to 2002...Blah blah, and..Blah...Now when caught as a negative Romney jumps in the old mental wayback machine and says , What he said when he said he was working for Bain, he wasn't working for Bain, and that what he says now is not a lie when he now says he was not working at Bain is the truth! But one of his lies is a lie and the other is the truth according to Romney.

Either way....Romney is a liar...take your pick!

Seeking.......Well like Romneys repubs said when it came down to him as the pitiful last, "Everyone should like him, he has been on both sides of the issue one time or another!"

Wow...it is so nice to see that the liberals immediately go to hurling insults at people. I thought this might be a discussion about gun control. Apparently not.

To the person that said the 2nd ammendment doesn't give you the right to own an assault rifle, you would be wrong. The reason we have the second ammendment was so that the people of this nation would be free from the potential tyranny of a government that would otherwise oppress them. This is what the founding fathers intended. (King George)

Now for those that will say..."but that should give me the right to own a tank or rockets or a nuclear weapon"...let's be reasonable. For those that say that the founding fathers could not have foreseen automatic weapons...you're probably right. Unfortunately there are automatic weapons. I enjoy going to the range with my friends and shooting them. (The guns not my friends.)

The real issue is not gun control. It is the ability to obtain things via the internet. Reasonable and responsible gun owners will most likely buy their ammo from a local gun shop and do it in person.

Let's stop with the "let's ban guns" mantra and start making the punishment for gun related crimes swifter,stricter and harsher.

Brockton, I dont know what debates you were watching. Any time Willard went off message, he stuck his foot in his mouth.

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Love how those conservatives in Arizona with their lax gun control have been providing Mexico with guns for years, then the same people in Arizona get pissed when they come back over the border and use them there! Why do they do it?.. $$$$$$$$$$NRA makes a bundle from selling guns and accessories. Then the same people from Arizona scream to the feds to come protect them from the thugs they sold the guns to!......DUH! Then the same people from Arizona scream to get the government out of their lives. Then the same people from Arizona create voter suppression laws costing millions and have to create more government jobs to process voter suppression laws.....Just like a bull that can only walk backwards and always steps in his own B.S.

rusthand - the issue is both gun control and crime and punishment. Semi-automatic and assault weapons have no use except to kill. No true sportsman uses them for hunting and a pistol is what is used for self-defense.

We need to STOP the sale of these weapons at any venue - in any way. You're absolutely right about the internet - there should be no gun sales over the internet - period. And, there should be a directory showing the sale of guns - nationwide. If someone starts building an arsenal, it should be reason for concern.

Make the punishment for gun related crimes swift and severe.

We can't EVER bring these people back. At least make their deaths stand for something.

Romney this year went like 26 - 0 in debates.

lmao. You call those debates? I was thinking more of a clown convention.

Romney has gotten almost good as Obama at smoothly avoiding an answer.

Has Obama met his match at being vague?

Or has Romney merely learned to be as non-committal as Obama?

Obama has two big problems when the debates come;

1 - No teleprompter allowed.

2 - He can't hide his record any more - just think of all of those promises he made and didn't even try to keep, when he had complete control of both houses of Congress.

Brockton, and all you other Reich-wing CONservatives out there:

Those stimulus dollars were spent to keep U.S. companies going so that U.S. citizens could keep working so that U.S. dollars could be spent to keep the U.S. economy going.

Somehow it's ok for you Reich-wingers to do that, but bad when the evil Satanic liberals do it......... Does your Jeebus know how you're twisting the truth to suit your own purpose?

Brockton Barlow

Speaking of Olympics did anyone see the new Obama superpac ad with Romney at the Olympics. The voice over talks (LIES) about Romney's outsourcing of jobs while at Bain.

Check it out. It has to be the most embarrassing negative ad ever run.

Need I remind you jeopardy contestants about the swift boats ads in 04 ? The ad's that actually vilified and demonized one of the greatest medals a soldier can receive?

You people are clowns.

Steven-1134633 -- Or heck, making it harder to register to buy a gun than it is to register to vote. I am a gun owner and feel it is a responsibility, not just a privilege -- the same as voting. States trying to pass draconian voter ID laws where gun IDs are acceptable to vote but student IDs are not, are off their rocks.

The NRA used to be sports enthusiasts who favored safety. Now it is an ever-shrinking organization of radicals run by a man who makes money from the sale of weapons. Heck, the friggin' lobby groups are destroying this country in general -- We can't even get Do Not Call List protections.

We the People have to fight for our rights, like going to a movie and not getting killed -- Really, we're supposed to pack heat to protect ourselves from someone in full body armor with 100 rounds, seriously? A mass murderer's rights end where my rights begin (or a telemarketer) -- This is a most fundamental constitutional concept that even rightwingers should support.

Unfortunately rightwingers are now members of the People's Temple who drink the Kool-Aid. Even if we could deprogram them, they may already be too far gone.

Why is it ok for BO to use Executive Order to keep documents from Congress; but, people want Romney to turn over everything he has for review? What is Obama and his sidekick Holder hiding? Obviously something. Now, a comment for what this article is actually about - more and strict gun control laws WILL NOT stop what happened in Colorado. If the government were to take my legally owned, legally purchased firearms, how many illegal guns are going to remain in the hands of criminals? More than you really want to know. And, no, I don't own an assault rifle. It's not needed for home and personal protection.

@SeekingSanity

Brockton - no lies there - it's true. Romney outsourced jobs while at Bain. Get used to it. There will be new ads with some of the employees whose jobs were outsourced by Romney - you won't like those either. The truth always hurts. Embarrassing to be a Republican when all you've got is Romney!

What I find embarrassing is a President who on one hand criticizes his opponent for outsourcing jobs while on the other hand appoints one of the biggest job "outsourcers" in the entire country to be his right hand man on job creation. 54% of GE employees work overseas.

So answer this for me, has Romney outsourced more jobs than Emmelt? And why do you libs run around screaming like chickens with your heads cut off about Romney outsourcing but not a peep about your guy being all buddy-buddy with one of the worst at doing the very same thing? Hypocrisy maybe?

http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoday/2011/01/21/ge-has-shed-us-jobs-since-jobs-czar-immelt-took-helm/

Excuse me, Mr. Romney. You are now blaming "the hearts of the American people" for what happened in Colorado ???? You say there is no need to restrict, in some way, access to the guns this evil idiot bought LEGALLY. That it would not do any good ?

First of all, my heart, and the hearts of most Americnas are just fine, thank you. Your millionaire heart on the other hand, Mr. Romney, is cold as ice on numerous issues.

@seekingsanity----you call an arsenal of guns what this idiot had in colo. he had 4 guns a rifle,shotgun and 2 pistols- id hate to know what you would say if you looked in my gun cabinet-i have double plus

Funny how angry all of you progressives are. You should be elated that you have such a poster boy for a candidate.

BTW, Are you sure you want to play the "what's he hiding game"? Why are the following items SEALED? What's Barry hiding?

1 - Occidental College records – SEALED

2 - Columbia College records – SEALED

3 - Columbia Thesis paper – SEALED

4 - Harvard College records – SEALED

5 - Selective Service Registration – SEALED

6 - All medical records – SEALED

7 - Illinois state Senate records – SEALED

8 - Illinois State Senate schedule – SEALED

9 - Certified Copy of original Birth Certificate – SEALED

10 - Signed Embossed paper Certification Of Live Birth – SEALED

11 - Baptism Record – SEALED

12 - Foreign Student Aid as a college student? – How & why?

13 - Used - ?? – Passport when he visited Pakistan in 1981

Obama has two big problems when the debates come;

1 - No teleprompter allowed.

Funny that he didn't need one when he kicked McCain's rump in 2008. And McCain was considered a pro. Romney's the equivalent of someone in AA ball. The President will tear him a new a--hole.

2 - He can't hide his record any more - just think of all of those promises he made and didn't even try to keep, when he had complete control of both houses of Congress.

He never had complete control. The Republicans still had the filibuster, which they used repeatedly to stall legislation and is something they've gotten pretty good at. A 9% approval rating shows that the people don't appreciate what they've done. And please, what promises? And go back through our history of presidents and tell me how many kept all of their promises. I'm guessing none. So why hold this one to a higher standard? Love to hear your spin on that one.

Well, Greg, we can all just pray that Miss Mitsy can change your little ol' heart.

Do you realize what Freud would say about your gun bragging? Perhaps it would be less embarrassing for you if you just kept it all a secret...

name calling-Miss Mitsy? is that all you have and me embarrased about what,being proud of the guns i own im proud of it and will soon have more.as far as what kim says either big or small or average its what God gave me.It sounds to me that you (shocked)and kim are ashamed of what (whoever you believe in )gave you

So lets see: Obama a progressive darling?? Hardly.

Nafta Clones costing US jobs. Only thing he seemed to do with Repubs.

Begged Iraq to keep MORE troops there. Was refused.

Promises to stay in Afghanistan till 2014. In a country that hates us. While China profits from the stay in mining contracts.

Then there's the illegal issue? What communities suffer from lack of construction and maintenance jobs worse??

The caving on the public option in health care??

5 day delivery for USPS, costing over 100K jobs??? Oh and timed after the election??

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Then there's Romney:

First pro abortion , then anti

First gun control, then anti

First for public health care , now anti

Shipped jobs away from our country.

Used foreign tax dodges.

I do not care whether your so called conservative or progressive.

We have the worse choices in Potus before us in history.

As a democrat, progressive , who believes in the Constitution.

If the President goes anti-2nd Amendment , I'll sit out this election.

He already hit the 1st and 4th amendment via the so called patriot act.

And soon the internet.

China is not moving towards us in policy. We are moving towards China.

Chuck 56 - your post is nonsense. All college records are sealed and can only be opened with a court order. The fact that Bush and Kerry's college records was leaked was a felony. Did ya know that idiot?

Illinois Senate records are public records - you lie! His birth certificate nonsense again? That just makes you the fool you are. And the rest of the garbage you list is just garbage.

Go back and try to get an education. You make everyone you associate with look idiotic!

Obama/Biden 2012

He's a good man. I'm looking forward to the interview!

Chuck 56: You do realise no one asks for any of what you list from Romney. Though you may be curious as to every aspect of Obama's life only right wing nuts want to examine every aspect of his life. There isn't a thing on your list I or most democrats want to see of Romney, just his tax returns like Obama has already shown.

McCain choose Palin over Romney I wonder why!

Probably because when he saw Romneys taxes, he noticed he did not pay any taxes for years, plus all those off shore accounts, hate to say it but if I were MCain I would of picked Palin too, even though I can't stand that loud mouth teabagger. Maybe Palin & Bachmann can run for President & VP, boy wouldn't that be a pair!

Obama/Biden 2012 YES YES YES!!

Job1,

Why do you and your Leftist cronies keep perpetuating the lie that Romney has not released his tax returns as required? He has released exactly what is required, two previous years. Anything more than that is only voluntary. There is no reason for anyone to need to do more than that. This is nothing more than the Liberal Left trying to start class warfare and jealousy by showing everyone who can't handle someone elses success that he is rich. SO WHAT! Get over it.

Edit, this was supposed to post above in response to #2.0.

Because facist hitlerites like you keep lieing about him hiding something mark

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patriotmark - he has NOT released 2 years. He released 2010 - his 2011 taxes are waiting to be filed until JUST before the election. And, for clarification, now many Republicans are also insisting he release more tax returns. Please, try to keep up!

Mom 1010: McCain choose Palin over Romney I wonder why! OMG that's right! That should say it all!

Obama/Biden 2012

patriotmark

Job1,

Why do you and your Leftist cronies keep perpetuating the lie that Romney has not released his tax returns as required? He has released exactly what is required, two previous years. Anything more than that is only voluntary. There is no reason for anyone to need to do more than that.

Just like there was no reason for anyone to actually have to produce a long form birth certificate despite releasing the necessary short form to qualify as a presidential candidate?

You people are clowns.

Willard, 9-9-9, clowns of the year. That expensive series of private schools that Willard's daddy sent him to doesn't seem to have taught him much at all. He has no plan for anything...only to keep his tax forms secret, to keep his secret bank accounts in Switerland and the Caribbean and God knows where else, and to smugly @!$%# all over regular working people who don't fall for the currently Reich wing and moronic Repug Party that is justifiably on its way to extinction. Can't wait. Obama and Biden in 2012.

Not sure if this question came up, but I would like to know how Romney feels about drug prohibition laws... If he thinks that gun laws wont fix anything, does that mean he for decriminalizing drugs?

Whatever he believes he'll believe something different tomorrow.

Yet one can seal years of records without explanation.

There is no legal requirement that he reveal documents from the 2002 Olympics but he promised transparency at the beginning. "If you want to see something we will provide it."

Rod.....well guess that is another flip flop of Mittster, as he did say the other day, that's all they will get.

There are books out for sale on Bush's screwed up sayings and quotes he was trying to verbalize. Funny as hell to read, but still sad because of all his failures.

Hope to see someone put out a book on Romney flip flops. There is $$$ to be made there!

Starsailing -- that's actually an excellent idea. If I was as good with research as you show yourself to be, I would do it myself. I could use some extra $!

He isn't flip flopping he's evolving.

He just wants us to 'learn our place'.

Hint: It's beneath the sole of his $10,000 loafers

He's offering free heart transplants what more do you want a kidney?

LOL, Amy.....I doubt Romney has ever set foot in a Big Lots. I think he meant parking lots. You know, a chicken in every pot, and a Cadillac (or two) in every American's lot.

Mitt's parking lots would come with elevators for the cars.

Why does the phrase "improve the lots of the American people" sound condescending to me? Kind of like Ann saying "you people".

JoAnne - and a car elevator in every home (cause we're all too LAZY to go down to the garage!).

How can a man without a heart for the middle class of this country even SUGGEST "changing the hearts of America?" His speech after the shootings was one of the most stiffly delivered ones I've seen. For a man that used to be a bishop in his church where his counsel was sought daily, he sure can't sell compassion.

For a man that used to be a bishop in his church where his counsel was sought daily, he sure can't sell compassion

Willards tithing and counsel, no doubt, was a tax benefit!....

Without saying so, I guess he, and the NRA, supports the right for any and everybody to purchase flame throwers, rocket launchers, 100 round clips, whatever!.....The second Amendment says so!

The rest of us must be victimized and murdered!

For a man that used to be a bishop in his church where his counsel was sought daily, he sure can't sell compassion.

Turning off compassion comes from tiring of telling every teenage boy in the congregation to keep their impure hands off their impure private parts. Good lord, those 'bishopric' conversations were embarrassing.

RedDevPS - I just learned something new about the Mormons .... ;-)

Hey JoAnne don't forget to include the elevator with every Caddy

RedDevPS... Don't you mean "bishoprick?"

He ate at Subway once and was really impressed the little people had such fine food. There's pictures and everything.

I noticed that too. And Brian corrected him on this, right? Brian pressed him on this question, right? Brian held out for a real answer, right?

*crickets*

Wasn't aware until tonight that B. Williams is the official media spokesperson for the Obama campaign. Also didn't realize that being a successful entrepreneur in no longer respectable in America. Williams asked about Mitt Romney hiding his past. Excuse me ? His father was a state governor. How or why would that be hidden ? And Obama's father - who knows anything ? His childhood - no, academic records - sealed. Apparently the inquiring media does not consider it relevant to know anything factual about the President. Biased Brian - it couldn't be any more evident.

RTFS, I'm not familiar with CO gun laws either; but, Federal laws do make it illegal to own some of the items J Holmes had in his possession. I do own firearms; but, nothing that would take out your whole house. Mine are for home and personal protection, and are legal under the 2nd Amendment. As far as who should or shouldn't be allowed to own or possess firearms, a form sent in to the government and/or a waiting period will not always identify a person that may do what J Holmes did. It's a tough decision for anyone, whether they are in office, running for office, for gun control, against gun control, or whatever position they are in. But, FBI stats prove that states that allow concealed carry do have lower violent crime rates than those that restrict ownership/carry.

Good point!

Americans First, look at the history of Germany in the early years of the last century and you may well see a similarity to what is happening in America today. Adolf would be so proud of those running the Republican party today.

Occupy Americans First

I don't think anyone would or should try to keep you from your right to a labodomy, but in all honesty, I don't think the brain surgeons would find anything to work on.

you mean the illegal immigrants cant vote? omg. i dont believe they are supposed to be able to buy guns in this country either. cause if they are illegal, they wont go to the gun shops and supply a drivers license or social security card.

vote anybody but Obama 2012

Republicans don't seem to mind creating laws that restrict women's right to choose - shouldn't that be left to people's hearts as well?

govt - over 700,000 legally registered American citizens don't drive and have no driver's license in Texas. They are the ones being required to get a voter ID. The only place they can get them is at the DPS offices where they issue driver's licenses. In some cases these offices are over 100 miles away from the people needing the ID. There are 70 counties in Texas that do not have DPS offices.

Further, they have to bring in multiple documents (which cost money to obtain - such as birth certificates). The demographics of the people affected are disproportionately black and Hispanic, elderly and poor.

Per the Texas AG, they've had 50 cases of voter fraud since 2002 (not all were voter ID fraud). Since 2004 they've had over 39 million votes cast. That's a fraud rate of .0000012. If the Texas Voter ID disenfranchises 2 voters out of that 700,000 plus, the state will have done more relative harm to the vote in ONE election than ALL the voter fraud cases for ALL elections since 2002.

Matthew - and yet the right crows on and on about voter fraud. It's what they plan to use to keep legitimate voters from voting. It's pitiful the GOP has disintegrated to this level.

Obama/Biden 2012

Poor wee little bob...I realize the word has one more syllable than he can handle, but normal people would probably try to figure out how to spell the word lobotomy before calling others brainless. If the teabaggers wish not to be considered illiterate liars, they should find people to represent them that are not ignorant liars.

Why aren't rational people with interesting points arguing for Romney? Is it revealing that the RNC has to dig through the lowest of pond scum to even find someone to defend him? It is pathetic and disgraceful.

How about Pennsylvania?

"It was the reported mismatch between those two databases - Aichele's July 3 statement that up to 758,000 voters statewide, about 9.2 percent of the electorate, did not have PennDot identification - that has refueled concern over whether the new law would disenfranchise thousands of legitimate voters.

Another data set, distributed last week to county election boards without any public announcement, disclosed that thousands of additional voters could lose their voting rights because their PennDot ID expired last year or earlier.

(source: ht tp:// articles.philly.com/2012-07-24/news/32828849_1_penndot-id-commonwealth-carol-aichele-thousands-of-legitimate-voters )

"In a Pennsylvania court filing, the state says it has never investigated claims of in-person voter fraud and so won't argue that such fraud has occurred in the past. As a result, the state says, it has no evidence that the crime has ever been committed.

The state also says it won't present "any evidence or argument" that in-person voter fraud is likely to occur on Election Day if the voter ID law isn't enacted."

"The Pennsylvania law fanned partisan flames when Republican state House Majority Leader Mike Turzai, who helped pass the law, said at a party gathering: "Voter ID ... is going to allow [presumptive GOP presidential nominee] Gov. [Mitt] Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done."

(source: http ://www .npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/07/25/157327705/pa-wont-use-voter-fraud-argument-at-hearing-over-id-law )

How much clearer can it get than the cases of Texas and Pennsylvania that this is simply voter suppression?

Sorry Bob, Romney isn't offering lobotomies only heart transplants. You'll have to make do.

A position, a position, my kingdom for a position from anyone on anything.

How about the missionary postion?

'Bo', Oblumble's dog prefers.....you got it ..... the "doggie postion"!

i sort of agree with you on some of this. but, i believe any politician will answer questions the same way, without giving a definite answer or stand. they all straddle the fence all the time.

Ban all assault weapons, period, then ban all Republicans and especially the Teaparty from ever step a foot back into Washington, talk about nut cases. Maybe and only maybe we may let the Republicans back in if they can actually sit down and compromise on real issues that affect this country and its people!

Laura,

Get over yourself and the Liberal opinion that theirs and yours is the only opinion that counts. Everyone has a right to their opinion which includes Republicans. And by the way, what is an assault weapon? The Liberal definition is quite different than reality.

Patriot....Romney used a pair of scissors to assualt student and cut off his hair...again I ask, is that not an assault weapon?

Laura: I can't single you out on this. However, it was your comment that really pushed me over the edge. To all of the liberals on this post and all the consertives that come here looking to pick a fight.

You are both wrong and exceptionally childish. This should have been an honest and open discussinon about a tragic incident in CO. Instead it has turned into a crap fight between a bunch of monkeys at the zoo.

Using this topic for political backbiting is seriously warped.

Reading the majority of the comments on this post has lead me to believe none of you want a true resolution to anything unless you get your way. The majority of posters, liberal and consertive, are acting like a bunch of spoiled children. My way or no way.

You should truly be ashamed. I know I am when I act that way.

Republicans aren't allowed to vote what they believe, 95% have signed a pledge to vote for the interests of a corporate lobbyist. You think he represents middle class republicans or corporations?

So what? Obama made a similiar speech to his village elders about automatic blow guns back in Kenya where he was born.

Bob 2579213:

When you spout three or more hopeless inaccuracies in a short sentence, do you ever stop to think you and the few who agree with you might have it all wrong?

not when I know the Nation got it ALL wrong in 2008.

Romeny believes it is ok to flip-flop but flip-flopping should not be tolerated.

bobber,

did the nation get it wrong in 2000 and 2004?

bob 2579213 - and you've just won the vote for most ignorant poster on this site. Don't worry - Brockton was a close 2nd.

Bob, say more stupid @!$%#, you're funny.

Well said John77!

Bob is just pining for the good old Confederate days and forlornly whistling 'Dixie' is all. A pitiful sight indeed.

Actually Bob - the nation got it right in 2000 and 2004 - it's just that we weren't prepared for the CROOKS - alias Republicans to steal the vote

Just like they are trying to do it now

Bob - it wasn't a speech by Romney. It was a bill signed by Romney. And, in classic T*bagger style, you can't address the issue, because your universe can't handle the truth.

My guess is, Romney’s days are numbered.

bob-2579213

not when I know the Nation got it ALL wrong in 2008.

Thanks but you dolts dont speak for me.

Wasn't that LBJ, the liberal democrat's war music man?

Apparently Bob, you weren't around for the election between LBJ and Goldwater that was all about the repubs demanding that we escalate the war far more than LBJ did.

But repubs rewriting history is so common these days, no one even notices..

Hank...Goldwater would have nuked them!

Bob, actually it was Eisenhower's war.

How's that government control on illegal immigrants been working for you Freedom? Hell it couldn't even keep an illegal alien out of the White House! LOL

bob did you go to the white house???

Bob, whatever you do, don't let facts and reality interfere with your insipid posts, birther-boy....

little bobby....Romney didn't keep illegals out of his place or his son's. Romney was caught twice hiring illegals from Guatemala. When reporter asked him why, he responded, "aaaawww geez," and walked away. Millions of dollars and he would not hire Americans to work on their yards. Romney hates Americans he won't hire them. Hires only Bush cronies. Romney the insourcer of illegal aliens and outsourcer of American jobs. Romney for a worse tomorrow today!

Vote President Obama/Biden 2012

Starsailing, get your facts correct. When Romney found that the landscaping company he hired had hired some illegals, he told them to stop the practice. When they did not, he fired them.

After he got caught. You think if he hadn't been caught he would have cared about anything except what was cheapest?

I dont think they should be banned. But I think owners should have to prove they arent insane or having problems. When they buy them. The vast majority of these nuts buy their weapon just before an attack. People who have had a weapon for awhile, and use it legitimately, are not usually the nutcases who do massacres.

Yep Ed, that's what they're made for. Very dangerous things these assault weapons.... that's why they should be kept out of the hands of children, liberals and other morons for sure!

Romney should be banned, he assaults everyone's intelligence.

another stupid remark by ed

When Mitt Romeny was Govenor of Massachusetts, he cited that assult weapons were not used for hunting or collectors, but were to instill violence and wars. he signed the legislation banning them. He has since completely done a 180 (again!), and now is against any laws furthering restrictions on guns and has pledged to overturn cities and states that create their own bans, such as in Chicago and D.C. He shuld have to look into the eyes of the victims and their families of Aurora and tell them face-to-face how he prefers the support of the NRA and gun lobbysits than supporting the safety of Americans.

So, bob...very revealing. You feel you should have the right to own assault weapons and people that disagree with you politically should not.

It is no wonder that people compare the teabaggers to the taliban. Thank you for giving us all a clear picture on that one, bob.

May Miss Mitsy change yer heart, too...

Something is better than nothing and Obama has showed us he's nothing as a president,all we have to elect is something called Romney.

I know this is an explosvie subject but do all you democrats "really" believe in the so called "change" that Obama has brought to this country? Come on guys, believe in a man that took two years to produce a fake birth certificate, a man that organized the Acorn organization and promotes more racism in this country since Kennedy tried to end it in this country? Even educated blacks in this country and the "home boys" (their description not mine) recognize that Obama has done a lot of harm to this country especially racism. If you want total socialism in this country then re-elect Obama and put your head in the sand because you like to strictly vote "democrat" ticket.

And before you chastise me...............I am a liberterian.............but I will NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA AGAIN. This natzi sympathizer and muslim toating koran toating president of ours could care less about making America strong.

Wake up Americans............and shame on your MSN and CNN for only presenting one view point and not exsposing Obama and all his lies........way to go "new media"...........what a grand bunch of people you are! Don't forget I voted for this moron.................what a mistake......it won't happen again.

when are you going to stand up to the Communist wing of the Dumbocrapic Party??

Maybe when you learn to spell Bob.

Ask all those Mexicans how gun control is working out for them. 60000 murders in the last 5 years. Not one law abiding citizen owns a gun. They are completely at the mercy of the criminals and their own government. It is not a pleasant place.

ac631...unless you can site your source proving your exact numbers, you are a liar. Do you resent how low you have to stoop to defend your "man" Mittsy?

guns = shootings
no guns = no shootings
that's how easy it is !

yeah all that democracy crap that he inherited from Washington to Bush and he'll have the difficult job of dismantling!

You call yourself calm. You are an attack dog against our hardworking President who has been opposed by the Bush republicans who caused so much grief and misery for America with their wars, their policies and their corruption. The GOP is the problem and the NRA is the problem and the lying is the problem. America needs representation by people who care about all Americans and about the common good or we will not prosper or survive.

Vicki I hate to burst your bubble but our problem comes from both sides of the isle's. Both sides approved us going to war after we were attacked. The policies from both sides have caused more trouble for the Country than they will admit to. Both sides are corrupt. I do have to give the Republicans some credit though. When one of their own really over steps the line of moral conduct at least they push that person out. The Democrats do their best to sweep the problem under the rug. Pelosi promised to clean up Congress when she was house leader, but she is just as corrupt as most of her fellow democrats.

Its not the GOP notr the NRA that causes the problem with our gun laws , It the lack of enforcement of the laws already in place thats the problem.

Convicts who try to by fire arms are supposed to sent back to prison for even trying to do so, They are not.

If the BATF was better at their job then This trajedy might not have happened. Look at operation Fast and furious. Now Holder and Obama are with holding the truth from the people.

Besides gun laws there are alot of laws the Fed's are supposed to enforce. But dont. One is Tax fraud commited by illegals stealing over 4.5 Billion dollars each year from our tax money we send in. Will the IRS go after them. Nope not a chance.

Its time to get rid of both sides of the isle and ban both parties forever

Bryan,

Did that nut Holmes pay the same amount to the Obama adminstration for his AR 15 than the mexican drug lords did in Fast and Furious or did he have to pay more because he was white and american?

Bob, are you really that ignorant?

dave-sunny - yes, Bob really IS that ignorant!

of course all the EXPLOSIVES he had were legal perhaps you should work for the useless socialist president, you are pretty good at overlooking facts, just like he is.

Any president opposed to peace loving rednecks being able to buy their C-4 and machine guns is clearly a socialist.