Sure Fiesty - it is great.

You know it's like Clinton always says -it's about foreign policy stupid."

Plus things are going so well right no in Egypt, Syria and Libya.

But let's see old gal - is it really Obama thee sitting incumbent who is currently tied, but trending down, that can't gain traction?

But good to see you can discern the silver lining. I am happy for you. Cold comfort, but at least you have that.

Hey Murray - where's the sample?

Wait, let me guess - it is at least 5+ dem, right?

white collar auto Tens of millions of dollars in ads attacking the President and Rmoneys poll numbers haven't moved. Sad that works both ways.

Ah, look the old gal doesn't understand.

But then again, we are talking about numbers, not a strong suit.

So last poll I saw was 47-46 Mitt. So tell us old gal, were they 50-40 BEFORE?

Good news for the President. No matter how hard the GOP tries to paint Obama foreign, it is Romney's lifestyle, religion, and outsourcing of his personal wealth that strikes us all as foreign. Maybe business would like to deal with Romney so they get all the tax cuts they want however at what cost to us middle classers? Are you willing to live in legoland type housing on $250 a month salaries? If so vote for Romney and help him achieve that goal for America. Otherwise, you know what to do. Obama/Biden/Holder 2012

See Feisty, you go out and cherry pick the only poll that shows things going well for Obama. Those are called "out LIARS"

Me, I just use the numbers in the story that First Read just published.

It's called staying on point, but it seems you, like Obama, seem to have trouble staying focused.

BTW wasn't it just last week, when every poll in the country had the race a dead heat that Reuters had Obama up like 6 or 7?

Real strong source there Red.

Willard's numbers aren't improving. Ten of millions being spent by him and he is losing to the President.

The newest research from Nate has it as:

“Obama chance of winning 66.9% Romney 33.1%”

Wouldn't you like to know Rick?

Nope, I'm just asking for these so called journalists to report the stuff that matters.

A poll is only as valuable as it's source data. Odd how they rarely ever post that, eh Rick?

"All Romney has to do is make our country the most welcoming place in the world to do business."

Romney will apply his vast experience at off-shoring American jobs to third-world countries to the rest of the country? That sounds welcoming, all right. Mitt is heading for a huge loss in November.

As polls go in the summer, President Obama should be down by 5 right now. He has been with every poll since 2008. The voters who would vote for him aren't caught by pollsters as they are out having fun during the summer. Not sitting home like most of us. Which means he's not only up by about 3% it's more like 8%. Watch what happens come September and October when people are back from summer vacations and start paying attention. They give Romney the benefit of a doubt until he opens his mouth. Then he loses the average American. You cannot articulate empathy. Romney is missing that human element in a big way.

AnaBanana - I don't know exactly what you're getting at, but wouldn't you think that most people sitting at home right now (people without jobs, elderly people, etc) would be the ones in FAVOR of Obama?

So Spanky, is Rupert so Pissed Off @ England, that he Now is backing Dems +5, or is that a Trial balloon by you, since we all know that you're Full of Hot Air?

Applying Pressure Points to gage reaction is YOUR ONLY FORTAY Spanky, Nuttin More, Nuttin less!

Thats All Ya Got!

You Betcha!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

Sailcat, Jobs get outsourced because the bureaucracy in the US makes it to expensive to do the job here.

End the bureaucracy, end the outsourcing.

President Obama is doing fine in the polls: even the latest FOX poll shows him ahead by 4 points. Romney's chances of a win in November are swirling the drain.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/07/18/fox-news-poll-37-voters-say-are-better-off-than-four-years-ago/

Romney only has one foreign policy agenda.... "How many more countries will I be able to export American jobs too". Oh wait, that's his economic plan too.

A 2fer!

Obama/Biden 2012.

What is the justification for anyone thinking that Romney has a better handle on the economy? I guess it is a kind of upper class worship. Romney is very rich, so he must be smarter than us.

But what people should realize is that there are different kinds of economy. The economy for the top 1% has never been better, largely due to tax and regulation shifts starting back with Reagan. What is good for the top 1% is deregulation, off-shoring, high unemployment, free give-away of natural resources like crude oil, high government contract spending like Pork and military projects, low union membership, low wages, no pensions for workers, and low capital gains & estate taxes. But these things are bad for everyone else.

Just consider, when we did these things during the Bush years and most people were suffering, the Koch brother's wealth was increasing a remarkable $10 million per day largely tax-free. Romney is not afraid of repeating the Bush collapse, because his friends profitted from it. Why hasn't Glass-Steagal been reinstated? Because the traders and bankers made fortunes off that collapse. The trillions that disappeared didn't really disappear - they went into the profiteers' pockets. A lot of people liked the Bush collapse and want to repeat it. Read "The Big Short" to see that some guys who pre-Glass-Steagal earned $150,000/yr, were earning $25,000,000 per year due to G-S's repeal. Do you think those guys care about the impact on you?

Romney's economic plans are great for the billionaire who wants to cash in, and who can drop his nationality in a second and become a citizen of some third-world nation to avoid taxes, and hence has no love or concern for America.

But anyone who loves America should be aware that Obama is waaaaaaaaay better for our long term economy, and a thousand times better for anyone who is not a multi-millionaire.

Askaboutet,

Because of that assumption you make I can tell you've been drinking Fox News kool aid. You are convinced that only non working voters vote for Obama. By your logic he should not be leading among college graduates then. But the President does lead Romney among those in the working midddle class with college degrees. Your party leads in the non educated working class. Romney also leads in the deep south, which is a bastion of people relying on public assistance to get by. All red states in the deep south except for Florida and Texas survive on the government teat because non of them pay living wages or collect enough taxes to make it without lots and lots of federal funds. They are the group of people gullible enough to drink the Kool aid with you. Don't believe me. Look up the info. It is available at all the government accounting sites. Then slap yourself a little for me.

It's about time - the problem with posts like this is that people that don't know much will just read it, and think that is the case. (Instead of looking into the issues and making their own opinions.) Personally, I am not in favor of Obama OR Romney, but I fear it's people like you/posts like this that will cause too many people to vote in favor of Obama without really knowing anything.

RCP (Average of polls) as of 7/18/2012
11 Swing States: Tied in FL-29, Obama leads in 8, Romney leads in 2.
Delegates: Obama = Solid/Likely 179 + Lean 42 = 221 + Swing 82 = 303*
Delegates: Romney = Solid/Likely 131 + Lean 50 = 181 + Swing 25 = 206
Delegates: [303+206+29 = 538] Win = 270*
http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
Senate: Toss Up = 8
Democrat: Not up/Safe 37 + Likely/Lean 10 = 47
Republican: Not up/Safe 42 + Likely/Lean 3 = 45
RCP Senate link:
http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/senate/2012_elections_senate_map.html

A lot of things have changed, in part due to success by Democrats and President Obama, but also due to failures by Republicans and the last (Bush) administration. And of course a lot of perceptions have been always false, such as the tax-and-spend title Republicans tried to hang on Dems, which belongs more to Republicans who are now no tax and just spend, spend, spend especially on wars.

The GOP no longer has a platform really, no national security cred anymore, no economic cred, even family values -- what a joke, or "values" of any kind at all. Speaking of which, why is David Vitter still in office? This is why rightwingers hate FACTS now.

anaBanana - you are nuts.

1. I don't watch Fox News

2. If you polled the unemployed, do you think that more people would vote for Obama or Romney? I know PLENTY of unemployed people and they all like Obama (except 1).

3. I said that I thought the people sitting home, not working would probably be more likely to be voting for obama than romney, NOT that people working are more likely to vote for Romney than Obama. You didn't follow that correctly.

4. Have you read the book Red State Blue State Rish State Poor State? You might learn something about poor southern voters voting (or NOT voting) for republicans. (you don't even have to slap yourself after doing so)

True Patriot - What "Facts" are you talking about? What "change" are you talking about?

weusall - don't be such a dope.

Sailcat-2064101 -- Agreed. And holy cow, things haven't been good since the 1990s during Clinton. Thanks to failed GOP/Bush-era policies, the US now must struggle to recover from a depression. And an entire generation will never get back the Lost Decade. The obstructionist Do Nothing Teapublicans deserve only disdain.

The rightwing Race to the bottom mentality is destructive garbage. The way to get business to invest in the US in a global economy is to get rid of all the loopholes so the corporate tax rate can be made competitive -- but we can't just lower the rate and leave all the loopholes in place. The Bring Jobs Home Act was a great bill, but the GOP/TP blocked it.

There is no evidence that regulations or wages or ACA or any of the other BS is hurting profitability. What IS hurting is the lack of demand, and that's because the middle class no longer disposable income. Taking more of that away will cause more damage, not improvement.

One interesting thing in Sailcat's Fox Poll: When asked if the respondent would rather work for their paycheck or get the same amount from the government for doing nothing, only 5% said they'd rather get the government hand out.

But when asked about "the other guy," the estimate is that 29% would rather get the handout.

We (especial those on the right) have been taugh to hate Americans and think that they are lazy entitlement seekers. It isn't true. It is just one more Fox News lie. Americans are the hardest working people on earth (that is not hubris, that is fact demonstratable by working hours and lack of vacation time).

Another Fox news lie that righties have bought into is the relative size of welfare. I don't believe any rightie fully understands - the Olympics (at 24 billion pounds for the English) are 2 and a half times more than a year of welfare. I think this is why so many righties think Romney is a good choice - they are ignorant of the facts.

Austerity just got Germany on down-grade watch vis a vis Moody's.

Austerity just put England on a slashed forecast, from .8% to .2% growth and an acknowledged double-dip recession.

Austerity just got Spanish bonds to raise to over 7.5%. Anything over 7% is dubbed 'unsustainable' by the IMF. A country can't afford to pay that.

Austerity is going to be pinned to the Republican in congress. 'Look what they did to the world, by getting the US downgraded. You want these guys in charge?'

It's about framing the message, and that message is most definitely sitting on Paul Ryan's desk right now in a binder labelled 'Guide to Prosperity' or somesuch nonsense.

True Patriot - What failed policies are you talking about the Bush implemented that ruined the economy?

askaboutet -- Educate yourself. You can start with this:

The GOP's War Against Facts

The truth became dangerous for the Republican Party when it ran out of arguments.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics.html

Uh, did you just crawl out from under a rock today? Have you heard of voodoo economics of tax cuts pay for themselves, trickle-down tax cuts for the rich, the invisible hand, etc.? Then add to that two unpaid wars, one started on false premises.

If you keep it up, I'll know you're just a troll, and I don't feed trolls.

So let's see. obummer had ZERO experience in national security and he was still elected. He had the exact same amount (ZERO) of experience as commander-in-chief when he was elected.

So obummer's numbers are not very impressive considering that he has had four years to "perfect" his skills and gain experience.

What those numbers are telling me is that the democrats are running scared. They are grasping at straws by trying to use irrelevant data points.

Prior to be elected, Obama knew nothing about national security. So why is that even an issue? Well, you have to have something to hang on to I guess.

ScientistX -- Agreed. Aside from the fact that unemployment is temporary--usually only for six months, and in such small amount as to pay maybe the rent, no one prefers this over a proper income. Haters are by definition ignorant.

hs321 -- How long has Romney been running for office, even just for president? Why hasn't he devoted time to learn public policy in general, and including foreign policy? It's not like he had to work or anything. Puleeze.

President Obama clearly applied himself with interest in politics all his life (i.e., constitutional law). This is much more important than business experience, as history shows.

True Patriot - was that the right link? I didn't see anything about Bush's policies causeing the recession... (not saying they did or didn't, but was that the right article?)

What are your thoughts on Clinton's deregulation of banks, derivatives, etc. that helped cause the recession?

Also, can you show me which parts of bush's policies involved "voodoo?" Otherwise, you just called me a troll, but claimed someone was doing "voodoo" in the same post...

@Feisty

Don't forget the dollar slots at the MGM. Last time there I won $2000 from them

Using "numbers" (I assume you mean poll numbers) to judge Obama has two big problems: first, is the role of racism in numbers. I am sorry to say, but I think a good portion of the US poll samples (maybe as high as 20%) would not give Obama a favorable opinion even if we were back to Clinton-era prosperity and surplus. It is that 20% of the electorate that believes Obama is a Muslim Kenyan-born communist, evolution is a liberal myth, and so on.

Second is the sophisticated and constant propaganda barrage that makes righties believe totally false things about the recession "getting worse," or Obama "shredding the constitution," or Obama "not understanding how America works," and so on. No one outside of the old USSR has ever practice pure propaganda to the degree that the rightwing media has. And it has an effect on weak minds.

Scientist - would you say that there are people that would vote in FAVOR of Obama because of his race as well?

Romney's foreign policy experience is limited to his offshore bank accounts.

RCP is not broad enough, nor are the others.

I'm using combined sources that gets a lot of polls you never see on the other sources.

Currently using Likely Voters Polls only. Obama 308, Mitt 224 with Iowa Tied.

Obama experienced an improvement in 5 states including Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. Florida and Virginia barely moved to Obama. So I don't expect this to remain, seeing some of the polls in the 60 day average I am maintaining included a couple of large gaps in favor of Obama. These will drop of in about week or two. When those do, Virginia and Florida will go back to romney.

Mitt Experienced improvement in 7 states including Minnesota, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Missouri, Maine.

In Registered Voters, Obama 347 Romney 191.

In the Senate Composite, Republicans 49, Democrats 46, Independents 3 and tied 2. Here there are a number of seats with Republican Challengers that are closing the Gaps Including Mandell now within 4 of Brown and In connecticut the Republican Rell is down to 3 away from Murphy.

Listening to Romney at the VFW convention is an exercise in listening to a laundry list of neocon talking points. And as he has almost all the advisors from the sparkling Bush administration advising him, with Romney as C-in-C we could look forward to more wars and more bellicose statements.

He comes across as Richie Rich, whining and complaining yet itching to be the bully. A truly pitiful individual and worthy of being the lead man for the whiners and complainers here. No plans only criticism, and not very accurate criticism at that.

Why didn't they poll which candidate has the better bowing posture to Middle Eastern leaders? Wonder who would win that one?

yea, well "the thinker" Geoge Bush had none either but because of his blatant stupidity alienated us from countries who were staunch allies before him!! President Obama may not have had foreign experience but his personality has endeared him to many countries,even some that were previously our enemies!

George was so bad, he was booed in England, for God's sake! And President Obama has ended the "fake" war and is winding down the other, bringing our boys home so more don't get killed (we already lost 6000 thanks to Dumbya!) and saving us billions of dollars! He got rid of about 15 top Al Queda guys, including the #1,Osama Bin Laden!! Another thing Dumbya tried and failed at for 8 yrs! Obama gets high marks from most people, including Republicans (of course, they are warhawks who aren't happy unless we are at war with somebody!) on Foreign policy.

As for political experience, he has a law degree, was a civil rights lawyer, an Illinois Senator for 7 yrs. and a US Senator for 3 yrs. before becoming President! What does Willard have? Oh, lets see, and almost one year tenure as Governer of Massachusetts, before he abandon his job and ran off to make money off the Olympics! Massachusetts hates him so much for making them 47th out 50 states in job creation, that caused 200,000 people to leave the state to look elsewhere for jobs, that President Obama enjoys a 20 point lead in that state right now! So who's zooming who? Obama 2012

I would, just as I can honestly say folks will NOT vote for the President because he's black

or a Democrat

or because Mitt Romney is the vote against him, instead of not voting at all.

It's pathetic that's all the Republicans have to put forth. I would have preferred Hunstman myself, but it looks like he's boycotting his own party, now.

Or, possibly, because an incumbent president averages polling -7.7 pts in July than his average november vote share and a challenger averages polling -0.5 than his average november voteshare.

Time to get educated (fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/)

And yes, democrats are more likely to hang up on a pollster than republicans are.

Because polls don't matter until September.

ScientistX - you've made some good points. As you've shown by your post and as Redhead Ranting has proved, many ignorant people will believe the ignorant rants of the right wingers about people not wanting to work. People who are knowledgeable KNOW the vast majority of people want to have jobs and work.

But those who want any reason to hate Obama will grasp at the idiocy the right wingers are parroting - again evidenced by Redhead Ranting.

When you talk with intelligent voters, they don't buy into the Rove propaganda that is being grasped at by low information voters.

Funny thing is, those same voters will be afraid of voting for a Mormon and will probably stay home instead of pulling the lever for Mitt!

Obama/Biden 2012

Hey Redhead...

I’m not out having fun…I’m having to work 70 hour weeks as an exempt employee to support the tax cuts to the upper 1% so I can keep them in the style of living for which they’ve become accustomed! So they can sit on stage and say that “This is all .. YOU PEOPLE ..will get from us” how DARE us ask Lord Willard to show us his tax returns… just who are we to ask or even question!!!

What economic advantage are they talking about? Willard made his money the old fashioned way through inheritance and by using OPM (other people’s money) to finance his buyouts so he can raid the pension funds, sell the assets, burden the companies with debt that they in turn use to pay themselves and then get the American people to pay for the bankruptcy! WOW…. What economic prowess… What vision…What cunning!!! Romney is a WYSIWYGFTM!!! What you see is what you get for that moment!

As Governor he took Massachusetts from 36th to 47th in job creation, lowered taxes to the wealthy and corporations, outsourced private and public jobs overseas, saved the Olympics through Government loans, he funnels his incomes to foreign banks and tax havens and hides his tax records from the American people while campaigning about the lack of transparency with the President.

This is Willard and this is Mitt…whatever name he uses we will get the same thing, no jobs and what jobs there are will be outsourced, we’ll pay for the tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, more government handouts to companies who don’t need it, and the funneling of the wealth of this nation to foreign banks so they can pay even less taxes and all this will be paid for by the rest of us…

I don't think Mitt the Vulture has any advantages running for Pres., other than he has paid little or no taxes and has more personal wealth than Pres. Obama.

Does anybody know what Romney plans to do for the economy?

Obama promised that if he didn’t get this economy turned around in three and a half years or he’d be a one-term president - Liar!

Obama promised to cut the deficit in half in three years - Liar!

Obama promised to lower the unemployment rate to below 8% - Liar!

Why should we believe a liar can do any better if given a second term?

The fact remains that for every 1 job Obama creates he loses almost 5

Also late last summer, Obama re-configured the way the national unemployment rate is calculated ... this allows Obama to erase millions from the unemployment rate ... vanish the unemployed ... how very Obama.

Mr, Binkie...

He plans to do what every other Republican has done...He has said that on day one,

He will reinstate the Bush Tax Cuts to the upper 1%

do away with capital gains tax (which means he would owe nothing)

lower taxes to the job creators (of course he doesn't mean us) - Corporations

he would privatize Social Security and cut Medicare/ Medicaid

He would do away with the Heath Care Act and replace it with the republican one of which they don't have one.

and just like the Republicans in Congress his first priority (after all the other first priorites have been exhausted) would be Job...Jobs...Jobs - now the republicans have done everything else but work to create Jobs...jobs...Jobs - so maybe what Willard means by this is the creation of jobs for India, China and everywhere else where labor can be picked up for pennies!

Commander in Chief??? I'm still laughing. Commander of spending my money is more like it.

Feisty, are you the red head I see standing behind Obama in every photo of him.

I am no economist nor an expert in the matters of deficit/surplus. All I can say is, the United States has only posted 12 surplus years in the past 69. This is an easily researcheable topic and here's one of many sites that provides this information:

http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php

What this tells me is, most of the time our government will live outside its means for two main reasons: wars, depresions - with most events being wars. Mathematically, it is safe to say that deficit spending is more of the norm and that surpluses happen to be a very rare event.

Strangely enough, the wealth of the top 1% on the earning scale has increased dramatically over the past 50 years. The 1% now controls 43% of the nation's financial wealth.

Again, it doesn't take rocket science or being a liberal or conservative to know something is wrong with this picture. It would sound to me that deficit spending tends to favor the rich most of the time.

Harley Chic,

The Republicans promised to work on the economy…Liars

The republicans promised to work for the People…Liars

The Republicans promised Jobs, Jobs, Jobs…Liars…Liars…Liars

The ONLY thing the Republicans have worked hard on is to make sure there were no jobs bills passed, no infrastructure bills passed and that the economy remained stagnant… they made sure that the upper 1% got their tax cuts and that the bankers got their 700Billion dollar bailout courtesy of GWB…they worked hard in playing politics with the lives of the American People and for anyone who can’t see this then you are deaf, dumb and blind or just plain ignorant!!!

One thing you may need to start thinking about is that if they get elected and take control you may have to SELL your Harley to live!

Well Seeking Sanity has gone and done it now. Talking about intelligence and Democrats in the same sentence?

This has to be a mistake. I have never heard of such a thing.

I do not vote Democrat because I have a brain. I follow issues and form my opinions from within my own life style. I have worked long and hard to achieve what I have, just as many others have. I will be da$ned if I am going to let some government bureaucrat take it from me and give to someone who refuses to get off his backside to help themself. I will help anyone who tries to help themself get back on their feet. However I refuse to help someone just looking for a handout.

collapsed, restored, collapsed, restored - make
up your mind!

....and the sheeple ran into the fences, consumed with excitement! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Thinker....How bad was Bush then, when president Obama killed Bin Laden and numerous other top terrorists of the world in a couple years, when in 8 years Bush could only clear bush while on record amount of presidential vacations.

Thinker....How bad was Bush then, when president Obama killed Bin Laden and numerous other top terrorists of the world in a couple years, when in 8 years Bush could only clear bush while on record amount of presidential vacations

Do you libs ever stop and wonder, wow, our greatest accomplishments in the last 3 years were military victories? If you would have known that 3 years ago, you would have dropped a huge pile of sheeple pellets in disbelief.

Principles seem to eb and flow with the blowing wind.

The attacks against Romney and his devotes liberals surrogates are not working, the negative campaign full of lies about Romney and Bain are backfiring. Obama is losing ground. Obama had a big lead over Romney during the primaries, this lead is now narrower. More Republicans , the conservative base will go behind Ronmey because Obama is attacking our core of values. NBC/MSNBC polls are bias in order to mislead the public opinion in favor of Obama, only kool-aid drinkers believe in this polls.

elliot-3020456

Sailcat, Jobs get outsourced because the bureaucracy in the US makes it to expensive to do the job here.

End the bureaucracy, end the outsourcing.

Oh elliot, when will you realize that outsourcing has nothing to do with taxes and very little to do with regulations??? Of course corporations are gonna move the country that doesn't care if they contaminate water supplies or make the sky blacker than the Grim Reaper's robes. The main reason they are leaving is because workers are cheap in the Third World and many other countries are actually investing in things like education and infrastructure, while all we do is throw away money at tax cuts for the wealthy and our bloated military. You wanna cut the bureaucracy??? Aim at the damn defense budget.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Suck on that righties

Classy.

Bush was so bad other countries threw their shoes at him...funniest damn video except the one where Bush throws up on Japanese.

Too bad everyday day when he screwed up, people died and suffered because of his BUFFOONERY. Iraq, Katrina, wasn't that so much fun?

So what does Romney do? Hires the same buffoons, 17 out of 24 Bush advisors, poised to do the same buffoonery that killed so many, that crashed the economy, and destroyed so many lives. Vote Romney for more buffoonery!

Or learn from the failed past of Bush.

Vote Obama/Biden 2012

Looks like the "investigative reporter" forgot to take into account the following:

1. Throw UK under the bus.
2. Throw Israel under the bus.
3. Support the MB Arab Spring in the ME (oh, the Liberals call it "Democracy").
4. Surge troops then pull out early against ground commanders suggestions.
5. "Discuss" the "Missile Defense shield in Europe" after the Presidential election (whisper, whisper).
6. Then there are the Iran, North Korea, Libya, Pakistan, and "other" ME issues.
7. Imploding EuropeanUnion but they are the "model" for success.
8. Support the United Nations "Arms Treaty" and "Law of the Seas Treaty".

Yep, Mr. Obama has a "negative edge".

When Romney wins, I will be on here, being amused at all the sadness. But I'll tell ya, I will be sad too, because Romney will be no better, dragging the Republican party into the mire of moderation...and inevitably, failure. Never in my whole life, have I ever felt so unrepresented, so utterly hopeless. At least I got to see a prosperous and proud America in my life time. You younger folks are getting screwed. Life really isnt fair...

For you folks who think Biden is going to be on the Democratic ticket, are you in for one heck of a surprise.

The losing "V.P." name will be released by Mr. Obama at the DNC, that is unless his White House staff blows the whistle EARLY (whisper, whisper....to the NY Times).

Expect to see Valerie Jarrett or Anita Dunn.....both are real Liberal WINNERS.

Fiest,

They polled 1,000 people. 1,000 out of millions of registered voters. Probably all from Chicago!!

We new what the story was going to say, it's on MSNBC for goodness sake. Otherwise, we wouldn't be hearing about it!!!

TxHorseman,

If they polled 1000 people. 1000 out of millions of registered voters. Probably all from Texas. We all would know the story came from Faux news and that their facts were probably be made up. We know there isn't much of value from Faux news.

Probably all from Chicago!!

Now... now... Tex!

Your red is showing... ;o)

Tell me, honestly, are you going to be able to pull the lever for Willard or will you sit this one out?

Wait until the American people hear about Romney's big fund raising over in Europe with all the WORLD BANK OWNERS, this should be his biggest haul of money, why you ask, because Romeny will promise to end all banking regulations, will get rid of all the litigation's against all the banks, he's their man, but he's not YOURS!!!

Laura.........great post! Those foreigners will be donating hundreds of millions through citizens United loophole of letting foreigners buy the republican greedy rich candidate of their choice. The World Banker Owners and their process of controlling all the wealth has been moving forward. Romney is their kingpin for another crash and getting more American money offshore. Capitalism died a long time ago, and Romney's tax dodging offshore accounts prove it!

Vote Obama/Biden 2012

I heard it on a "clear channel" radio show this afternoon. Romney's gonna run about like McCain or Dole. Imaginings will be touted as reality. Lies will be sworn as truth. Truth will be sworn as lies. Some will seek treatment for Clap. Some will just spread it around. The planet though, will keep spinning. Science will continue It's quest to understand "Black Matter", and Barack Obama will be reelected to the Presidency of the United States.

As of today, I still have ZERO clues on what Romney will try to fix economic asides from tax cut for the rich and some rumor of increase tax for the middle class.

I am an independent and I really like to vote for Romney if he just gives me some details, but so far I got nothing.

"In the poll, Obama enjoys a 10-point advantage (45 to 35 percent) on who would be a better commander-in-chief"

That's funny, because a recent Gallup poll said the exact opposite;

"The Gallup poll shows 58 percent of veterans prefer Romney, compared to 34 percent who support the president."

Of course, NBC has found a way to twist the truth in their attempt to support Obama. No surprise there.

Grasping at straws again, Roy? That's no way to convince the electorate. Baiting your comments with "veterans", is a loser position.....LOl.

Tell me, honestly, are you going to be able to pull the lever for Willard or will you sit this one out?

I expect the same will happen for O'bama. I'd be willing to bet the turn out will be low all around.

The turn out will not be low for Obama... Romney is a sinking ship... unless they can get the christian right out to vote... He's doomed.

Its not going to happen for O'bama, the magic is gone, the economy is bad. I wish O'bama would get back in, I want negative reinforcement against the Republican establishment. I'm with you ItsAboutTime, but I'm just not seeing it happen.

I agree that we now have a global economy and we must meet or exceed certain standards to remain the leading economic power in the world. A position that the U.S.A. has proudly held since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution for over a century. We are still the world's richest and largest consumer nation on Earth.

I strongly disagree with many popular proposals as to how we reverse our rapid decline to countries such as China and India. How many times have we heard that we must only meet those country's standards of non-existent business taxes and trash all of our environmental regulations to bring those corporate jobs back to America? It's a damn lie. That will never bring those jobs back home until the American people,(men, women and children) also agree to work 80 hours a week or more for $10.00 a day exactly like the Chinese and Indian workforce.

Imagine the standard of living for the American people after all of this comes to pass. We will still have the tremendous mansions, 65 ft. yachts. private jets and limousines that the privileged few enjoy as the backbone of America lives in squalor exactly like the majority of Chinese and Indian people live today. Is that our goal? It is clearly the goal of many of the privileged few and those politicians solidly in their pockets.

How did post World War 2 Japan and post Korean war South Korea grow to be such economic powers? By mimicking exactly what we did in the States. We only need to look to our own past to solve today's problems. Japan and South Korea did just that.

The American Industrial Revolution during the late 19th century and early 20th century brought mighty oil, railroad and mining companies riches never seen before in world history due to the bounty of our land and the strong work ethic of the American people. This explosion of new-found wealth gave great power to the privileged few.

They used that power to force hard working farmers to sacrifice their farms for pennies on the dollar to make way for railroads.

They used that power to strip entire mountainsides of their natural beauty and force the American mountaineers to spend most of their waking hours in extremely dangerous mines. They paid them such lowly wages that they worked hard for years and still owed the company stores more than they could ever repay. Those that left in defiance, left in disgrace with health issues that would shortly kill them.

The oil companies held such monopolies that a nation of free people could never break free. Factories forced 10 yr. old children to work unlimited hours in extremely dangerous plants so that their families could eat once a day. Many of these children died in horrible fires or explosions for their efforts.

The United States government stepped in to change all of that with much needed regulations on business that still protect the American people and her bountiful resources today. A nation that since then has won two world wars and provided greater prosperity for it's citizens than the rest of the world combined. That very same Government we are told to fear by the very same powerful wealthy tyrants doing their best to return us to yesteryear.

None of my words can be disputed. It's been in the history books since I was a fifth grader 50 years ago. It's still there for all to see. Turn off the television and the computer long enough to read just one of those books. If you have a reading problem, do not despair or feel ashamed. You probably have a 5th grader in the family able to read it to you.

If you still wish to turn the clock back on this proud country to days of yore where the wealthy few abuse and reduce hard working American people to slave labor as they destroy our bountiful resources, have at it. It's still a free country. At least, until enough of us sacrifice it all in the name of foolish and stubborn partisanship.

It is amazing to me that any person with a brain would consider Obama a better Commander in Chief considering his history of bullying little girls, apolgizing for America, and bowing to foreigners.

The left better realize this election isn't about Romney this is the anyone but obama election just like 2008 was against Bush. Obama is losing the independent voters and without them he will not get reelected.

.Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!

Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation

…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!

..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!

Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."

“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…

NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!

Romney has no foreign policy! period!

Unless you count Romney's outsourcing Olympic uniforms to Burma and sticking his money in Swiss bank accounts!

The liberals are now trying to compare Romney's foreign policy with Obama's... well what has Obama's foreign policy achievements been? He kisses Hugo Chavez's Marxist butt every time he can... he slidles up to Communist leaders every chance he gets... like Castro in Cuba... and despises honorable leaders from our allies like Israel.

How much foreign policy experience did Obama have in 08 when he was voted into office? None. Now liberals are stretching and yammering about how much Romney has... What a joke.

OMG Iran is Going Nuclar, some small lil Middle East country wanting to Re-Ignite the Long Past Persian Army!

How do you ever Sleep at Night Spanky?

You Betcha!

Occupy SoggyBottom!

But the former Massachusetts governor leads on the question that has so far dominated this presidential contest -- the economy.

What exactly was the polling question?......Willard called the Ryan "Path to Prosperity" budget "marvelous".......but as of yet, hasn't said much else!

What is Willards plan for the economy?

Good to see a nuclear Iran is not important to you Rick.

Why heck I bet you fully support the take over of Egypt by the Brotherhood.

What could go wrong, right rick?

And FYI - I sleep good, and thanks for asking.

Did'nt bother Chicken George, Why should it bother Me, Spanky!

Heck, he knew this way back in 2002 & Still Invaded IRAQ !

Poor George, if he coulda Only Lerned How To Spell !!!!

You Betcha!

Brianb-999431

Please list out, in detail, Romney's foreign policy victories? Now if you can list all the countries that Romney help get American jobs, that might be a 'RIGHTY" victory, but a HUGE loss for America.

Let's see from your comment:
1. Source of where Obama is 'buddying' up with Fidel Castro? Seems to me, every GOP President prior to Obama could have taken out Fidel. Did they?

2. Isreal is honorable? You have to be joking. How much $$$ flows to Isreal from the US? Isreal is threatening the nuclear annhilation of Iran and would fight to the "last American" to achieve thier goals.

The rest ignorned. Please post sources and facts with your comments. I know righties hate facts, but try ... GOOGLE. ;-)

The whole "nuclear Iran" fear-mongering is the wrong way to deal with Iran. First off, a nuclear Iran is not the end of the world, anymore than Pakistan, N. Korea, etc. There is and always have been a large percent of the population in Iran who want a democracy, but if folks recall, protesters were brutally crushed just before the Arab Spring. Had the timing been later, perhaps it would have been different?

The US taking any military action against Iran will erase the goodwill with the people of Iran, not to mention it would destroy the US economically. A nuclear Iran isn't worth the cost to stop it, as the Military Industrial Complex would like you to believe.

ItsAboutTime-3704531 -- Brianb clearly lacks proper supervision. And if Romney loses, Stinky will have to go back into rehab.

It's just like Republican chickenhawks to cry for more war when the previous Republican administration started and famously bungled two wars. In an economy where we should be looking for ways to scale back our hugely expensive military machine, they are looking for ways to start fresh conflicts with no clear goals in mind that will drain even more money out of the economy. That is insane.

What is Romney's foreign policy? Except for catering to the chickenhawks in Congress? Seriously, no snark intended.

Romney has no foreign policy!

The exact same as obummer had at this stage. If that is all obummer has over Romney he better start looking for a new house.

And Obama's has brought us the Arab Spring.

Oh...so the President made all those people in the Middle East start protesting, is that it?

...and I thought Democracy was the silver bullet against terror in the world...at least that's what President Whats-His-Face (still can't say the guy's name, I guess) said...

"It should be clear that the advance of democracy leads to peace because governments that respect the rights of their people also respect the rights of their neighbors. It should be clear the best antidote to radicalism and terror is the tolerance kindled in free societies." - President Whats-His-Face speaking at the National Defense University at Fort McNair, 3/8/2005

Now, it seems the people in the Middle East wanted some Democracy...and now you're telling is that's a bad thing?

Who is obummer? I will respect your views more without the snark and disrespect to the duly elected President of the United States. You only lower yourself and your views with such an attitude

Romney has no foreign policy! period!

and Obama does. Hey Putin, cut me some slack and I will get you back if I am re-elected.

There is some foriegn policy for you.

Just bow and waive Mr. President, bow and waive!

the same was said about Obama 4 years ago. don't you remember?

I find it ironic that anyone could think this guy has done a good job in anything. His policy to any country is to give them anything they want. What is good in that? He wants us to go down the same economic road Greece and Spain has and they are doomed. He has no leadership skills and Putin darn near B slapped him a couple weeks ago.

He has failed in everything. I will give you one thing. He told the seals to go get Osama. Thats the only high point in his tenure as President. Time for him and the left to get out of the way.

Hey Putin, cut me some slack and I will get you back if I am re-elected.

...and, of course, you know the full conversation between Obama and Medvedev at that moment, right?

Throwing Israel under the bus... bowing to Arab leaders... totally ignoring the huge Muslim terror threat... unwilling to secure energy independence... making back door security give away deals to Putin... cutting defense spending... putting us $6 Trillion further in debt to China.... hell, even Diane Fienstein said that the security leaks came from the WH.... who'd they poll, ghetto dwellers and Hollywood liberals?

It's about time: read these little nuggets...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/23/2813403/florida-democrats-break-with-obama.html

I didn't say Fidel Castro... so get that straight would you? It's the Castro family.. the communist dictator's family... My how you liberals assume things.

I can see you are anti Israel... no comment...

Throwing Israel under the bus...

...which, of course, explains the record $3.1 Billion in military aid the President proposed in the 2013 budget he submitted.

You all forgot to mention that Obama’s foreign policy is to go around the world apologizing for the US and how bad we have been. How does that help? I know the US has not been perfect but name one other country better. If you can
then you need to move there and no one here will stop you.

I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc. I called a Suicide Hotline. I had to press 1 for English. I was connected to a call center in Pakistan. I told them I was suicidal. They got excited and asked if I had a Back Pack.

...so, suicide bombers are funny, "border joe"? Perhaps you'd like to talk to the families of the victims of the attack in Bulgaria last week.

You all forgot to mention that Obama’s foreign policy is to go around the world apologizing for the US and how bad we have been.

Really? So, perhaps you'll point me in the direction of one of these apologies that the President has made.

Romney knows how to export jobs, he knows how to bankrupt previously profitable companies in order to buy other unsuspecting businesses and yet, people think he must know something about the economy because he has made millions...... Never mind, he made those millions on the backs of taxpayer incentives, stealing from worker pension funds then locking the doors and firing the workers (Mitt likes firing people, he said so himself). Worse, he keeps a good portion of his millions in off-shore tax havens to avoid paying taxes to the country he claims to love and wants to run. Thanks, but no thanks. Government is not a business, it is not for profit and it is not to be off-shored for a few dollars more in Mitt's pocket.

Obama is Commander in Chief in title only, he thinks his experience as a "community organizer" makes him one but he refuses to listen to his highly trained generals.

Gil. Do you have anymore stupid comments.

I assume you can site some example of the President not listening to his Commanders. They do work for the President you know.

Obama is Commander in Chief in title only, he thinks his experience as a "community organizer" makes him one but he refuses to listen to his highly trained generals.

Are you in those meetings?

...so you know because...?

This election will be about the US Economy and Democrats and President Obama have failed on all levels.

Everyday this "hope" for President Obama to be re-elected is slipping further and further from reality.

DaNoid - have you ever heard of a website called YouTube? Go there, there are hundreds of clips of him apologizing to other countries... and that's no actor on the screen, it's the one and only Obama the apologizer giving those nuggets.

Willard's foreign policy credentials:

1. Defense policy credentials earned by hiding in France during the Viet Nam war.
2. Trade policy credentials earned by pioneering outsourcing of American jobs to China and India.

Obama and Romney are essentially tied on two other candidate qualities -- being consistent and standing up for his beliefs (37 percent say Obama is better, while 35 percent pick Romney)

35% believe Romney is consistent and stands up for his beliefs? Incredible! That number has to be the baseline for the number of people who have absolutely no moral conscience and will vote for someone who has no compass, no vision, no ideas; and, without any qualms, vacillates to the positions of his masters (the Kook brothers, Grover Norquist, etc.) when he believes it will get him the presidency.

We tried a vacillator-in-chief with George W. Bush, and we ended up with Dick Cheney who almost single-handedly gave us an unprecedented attack on American soil, two unfunded wars, insane tax cuts for the incredibly wealthy, a destroyed economy, and a deficit hole the size of China where a large surplus once stood.

Before the 35% of you with your blinders on continue your support for a chameleon like Romney, can we at least find out who this year's Dick Cheney will be? Maybe that way we can Dick this year's Cheney before he dicks us.

Does Romney even have an economic plan?

Sailcat-2064101

It's just like Republican chickenhawks to cry for more war.

And yet, like Libya, if the president did go along with chicken hawks/neocons/war profiteers and bomb Iran (or Syria), the rightwing would skewer him.

Gil-2872519 (et al) -- You REALLY need to turn off FAUX Noise and watch the documentary Brian Williams did on bringing bin Laden to justice. And this report by Andrea Mitchell is informative too: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/47265335/#47265335

Da Noid

You all forgot to mention that Obama’s foreign policy is to go around the world apologizing for the US and how bad we have been.

Really? So, perhaps you'll point me in the direction of one of these apologies that the President has made.

Good-un. That documentation is hiding along with all the other rightwing myths, like the Welfare Queen, Reagan the "severe" conservative, and deficits don't matter.

Fed Up - you forgot that he got Bin Laden. Don't forget that.

Border Joe - That was funny!!! I know we aren't supposed to have a sense of humor anymore but that was a good one.

*I'm pretty sure this came off wrong, I really do think it's funny and Fed that was sarcasm. not that you two couldn't figure it out, just to make it clear to some other people here.

Didn't Barry pick Ole Joe for his foreign policy background? It's tough to claim "experience" with something you started only two years ago. And has SCREWED IT every since. Just look how well the rest of the world listens to Mr Obama.

Snow Jackson -- And you think all presidents including Dubya don't know their hands are tied before an election? Especially when you have a congress obstructing any positive achievement you try to make? Are you RWNJs really this simple minded? Never mind, I already know the answer to the last question.

RWNJs -- We realize FOX Nation shut down. But can't you try another site that likes conspiracy theories, maybe The Blaze or something?

Feisty Redhead from IL is so ate up with hatred and intollerance that she even gets collapsed on a "liberal forum".....doesn't surprise me...

Brian,

do you mean like the apology for the burning of the Koran? Or the apology for the killing of 15 innocent civilians?

Those kinds of apologies are required because mistakes were made by us and we are taking responsibility for them. When you apologize for something you take responsibility for the fact it happened on your watch when you should have been able to prevent it.

I get why that is such a foreign concept to you. I would much rather have an apologetic President then one that wants to subjugate the Islamic countries just because they are Islamic countries.

Texson,

So you are claiming you are a liberal posting on this liberal forum? There are plenty of right-wing people on this site because Fox does not allow discussions on their news. So they come over here. This is not a liberal forum, it is just a forum.

President Obama has done more for the Veterans of this country than any other President in history.We can thank god for him and our life would be insignificant with out him God Bless to our President.

The policys of the Republican Party to get involved in every knife fight in the world are now becoming a thing of the past for this nation under our Presidents foreign policys, thank god we got rid of the war mongers

Over the next couple of months, the economy will either stay the same or see a modest improvement. Other than the usual political spin about doom and gloom, there's no expectation of it getting worse in the short term by any reputable economists.

Foreign policy, on the other hand, could blow up in any number of ways and any one of several major issues are likely to bubble over internationally in the next month or two demanding decisive action.

So, to me this says Obama definitely has the edge.

Geowil - well now you're talking facts and you can't do that with the small right wing minds on this site. As you can see, they excel at calling our very good President childish names. As adults know, it says more about their smallness than it ever says about our President.

Romney has nothing of value to bring to the Presidency and frankly I don't think he cares anything about the country beyond becoming President - which we'll make sure he never achieves!

Obama/Biden 2012

OMG SS You are so funny that I spit out my water when I read your comment about calling childish names. What is that old saying about pot and ketlle now?

RWNJs -- We realize FOX Nation shut down. But can't you try another site that likes conspiracy theories, maybe The Blaze or something?

I believe the web site is called "The Fudge Distort"...or something like that.

fuzzy44

You mean Romney won't continue the Obama administration tradition of leaking sensitive information to the press, thereby damaging our security? You mean like the Obama plan to have the Russians give him a break during the election and he'll be more flexible after the election? That kind of foreign policy. Or like kissing butt all over the globe and appologizing for America? That kind of policy? Damn if that is what you Obama supporters think is good, I'm damn glad Romney doesn't have it.

Stop and ask yourself who you think will be best for you. Do you want someone who thinks governement should be in charge of everything or someone who has been sucessful and thinks you can be too? Who is for socialism and who is for freedom?

CARL: Try Afghanistan and Iraq.

Many of the people who commented here didn't even bother to watch Andrea Mitchell's video wherein Chuck Todd concluded his comments (without divulging the full Poll results) by saying that, "We are just past the half-time in the game now. Based on the Bain attack, No-tax return attack, etc., President Obama is technically and otherwise beating Romney handily." This says it all.

Both on the foreign policy front and on who can better look out for middle class, Obama handily beats Romney. On who could be the better care taker of Economy, being a better businessman who made more money for his financiers, doesn't automatically translate him into a good steward of the American Economy (as a President). Obama needs do a better job explaining how his stimulus spending, auto bailout, healthcare act, etc. prevented US from getting into a big Blackhole (post 2008 recession calamity), then he can seal the deal.

For all practical purposes, Romney is toast and 6:30 NBC News will reveal that, as will other polls in the next few days.

Wait a minute Seeking Sanity you just called me names on a couple of different threads. You must be really small.

Among the things Romney like to do is fire people, move assets overseas, and do his banking in the Cayman Islands and elsewhere in hidden accounts. He and "rug-head Trump" are kissing cousins when it comes to firing people.

Romney and his ilk will DRAIN this Country DRY and then hie to Safe Havens in Foreign Countries. I would not be surprise if it were not Communist China. Once our economy collapses we will become an easy takeover by any prey and China makes sense because they already own huge portions of our money (gold) and they have many holdings of property at this time and are buying more and more every day...

Does anyone know what Romney's plan for the economy is?

Anyone?

It's easy to imagine great things when you don't know the details.

Which seems to be the GOP's election strategy this year.

And my favorite poll. Which candidate has the funniest name.

Barack Obama.......48%

Mitt Romney...........48%

Undecided..............4%

It was a tie.

Brianb-999431

I didn't say Fidel Castro... so get that straight would you? It's the Castro family.. the communist dictator's family... My how you liberals assume things.

and the source of your information about Obama and the Castro Family? You sure you are not confused with Reagan's list war with Grenada?

I can see you are anti Israel... no comment...

Why is it the responsibility of the United States to 'propt' up Isreal with our military defense budget? I don't know about you, but that money (borrowed in fact) should be used right here in the USA.

P.S. What were Romney's credentials on foreign policy? I am still waiting for the facts.

mike-464493 -- Can you imagine Romney taking the 3:00 am call? Haunting. With Europe on the edge, revolutions, civil wars, epidemics, and other major foreign policy events, I for one prefer the president (and his incredible team--Hillary, Biden, etc.) takes that call.

Shaking my head-2479300 -- Why would the president, who is very strict about leaks, want leaks to supposedly enhance his foreign policy credentials when bin Laden is all the cred he needs? Why would any president want gas prices to go up, or any of the other BS the rightwing comes up with? Please use your noggins or go to "The Fudge Distort" web site.

rgmoon -- Do you want more of the failed GOP/Bush-era policies that got us into this mess--on steroids, or do you want to continue on a positive trajectory of economic recovery and a "bottom-up" approach to restore the middle class and upward mobility. As the president just said:

"Let me me ask you, what's the better way to make our economy stronger?," Obama told an enthusiastic crowd in Boca Raton, Fla. "Do we give ... tax breaks to every millionaire and billionaire in the country? Or should we make investments in education and research and health care and our veterans?"

Obama also told students at Florida Atlantic University that "what drags our entire economy down" is when"the gap between those at the very, very top and everybody else keeps growing wider and wider and wider and wider."

Obama/Biden! -- It's a "no brainer" for all you folks who don't like to use your noggins.

Do you really think he likes to fire people for doing a good job? Just for his jollies? C'mon!

If one of my employees (and he wasn't talking about employees but that hardly matters) was doing a poor job it is comforting to me to know that I have the freedom to fire them and replace them with someone who will do a better job. Certainly I would try to help them do a better job but if they couldn't or wouldn't I don't want to have to continue to pay them to do a job for me that they don't do well. Thankfully I don't have to be union. That would suck.

No one likes to fire people. But, no one likes to pay someone for a crappy job either.

Of course no one has to do a good job anymore because it isn't about merit or competition or being exceptional. It's about being fair and equal and living in a fantasy world.

@gtouch

*laughs*

RealAmericansFirst

Does anyone know what Romney's plan for the economy is?

It is on his website.........research before you post.

Romneys foreign policy will be the same failed one that Bush had. Romney hired 17 of his 24 advisors from the old Bush regime. Why would anyone think of going backwards ( or going retroactive as Romneys calls it when he time travels the truth.) to those same failed policies of Bush/Cheney/Rove/Norquist? Why? Because the greedy rich mad a huge profit from it in war profits and their bankster friends crashing the economy!

Romney/Bush/Cheney/Rove/Norquist for a worse tomorrow today. Message approved by Bin Laden who like repubs plan to take the economy down.

Vote President Obama/Biden 2012

Your right Patriot, it's a no brainer. Voting for Obama proves you have no brains.

Does anyone know Obama's plan for the economy?

Even after 3.5 years, there is no evidence of a plan.

Didn't he say something about fixing the economy in one term or he wouldn't run for a second?

Obama is not "mean" he is weak. A weak potus that has failed miserably.
When ever Obama is a room with statesmen, executives, CEO's or any other figures of authority, he is the one with the least experience. He knows this, and so does everyone else. He resorts to the "I'm the president and you're not" attitude. That's not being "mean" that's being stubborn and ignorant. Compromise is not in his vocabulary.

Not even Obama’s strongest supporters believe we will do much better if he’s reelected this November. Does anyone believe Obama’s policies will create 12 million jobs like Reagan did in his second term? Nope!

America knows what we can expect from four more years of Obama. He’ll tell us how terrible Republicans are, point fingers, and blame everyone but himself. Same ole @!$%# as the last 4 years. Nothing new from this poser.

Americans know we as a country can do better.

13en....I just asked Bin Laden what he thought President Obama's foreign policy was. He answered...gurgle...gurgle..blub...blub...OW!.... Romney...ahahahahahah!

rgmoon

You all forgot to mention that Obama’s foreign policy is to go around the world apologizing for the US and how bad we have been. How does that help? I know the US has not been perfect but name one other country better. If you can then you need to move there and no one here will stop you.

That is false and you know it. Check Politifact.

Harley Chic

Obama is not "mean" he is weak. A weak potus that has failed miserably.
When ever Obama is a room with statesmen, executives, CEO's or any other figures of authority, he is the one with the least experience. He knows this, and so does everyone else. He resorts to the "I'm the president and you're not" attitude. That's not being "mean" that's being stubborn and ignorant. Compromise is not in his vocabulary.

Are you @!$%#ing kidding me??? Obama compromised LIKE HELL!!! The ACA was a REPUBLICAN healthcare plan during the 90s!!! EVERY deficit plan that Obama offered had more spending cuts than tax increases. Obama compromised and extended the @!$%#ing Bush tax cuts for two years. Obama agreed to include tax cuts in his @!$%#ing stimulus. How the @!$%# is Obama uncompromising????? You have to a blind idiot to think that Obama hasn't compromised.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

rgmoon,

I do not want to be successful at the expense of someone else's job, financial life, or actual life. Romney is about downsizing, layoffs, big exec pay checks, lower wages, and outsourcing to cut costs. While Obama does stick his feet into those waters they are not central to his policies. We should not be promoting success at the expense of those less fortunate or those less successful then us.

There is no place for Darwinism in Capitalism, when you promote it as such you create a class of poverty and poor much like what we have know while those that are at the top of the totem pole reap most of the rewards.

Mitt=700B was well spent to win Freedom in Iraq! Speach he gave 2009 to Conservitive Political action Conference.

Mitt=It was the right decision to go into Iraq. I supported it at the time; I support it now.-2008 GOP debate Boca Raton Florida. Info found at Mitt Romney on the Issues.

And if you didn't catch the latest- Dick Cheney and his friends helps Mitt with 4 million to help his campaign

And when the debates begin, I sure wish these two questions would be asked.

1. Do you favor raising taxes on the rich who make over $ 250.000 a year to help bring down the debt?

2. Do you favor lifting the cap of $ 106,800.00 and paying social security on each dollar earned?

I agree with you Starsaling Obama/Biden 2012

I am going to vote for Obama. I am going on disability and welfare and need to have that money coming in. I will get my free phone, my rent paid, my medical covered, I won't have to look for work or even pretend to look for work because of Obama's new waivers. I won't have to lift a finger to take care of myself, Obama will take care of me and that's why I'm voting for him.

Not only that, he killed bin Laden. He is a very good friend to the union bosses, and extremely good at helping green companies outsource jobs or else take lots of government money and THEN go bankrupt. Obama is good at insuring that all people will be taken care of, look at all the people in Mexico and the food stamp programs he is running for them. He is very good at keeping our borders open and unobstructed by federal agents. The agents are there but they're not allowed to do much.

Yup, Obama is a great guy, he's all for the middle class, he's going to protect it by adding many of the middle class to his welfare programs where they will be fed and protected and never need to deal with nasty businesses and employers again. Those rich businesses are going to be punished by Obama, they aren't doing enough for the government and poor people, nope, they need to have their profits redistributed so that more of the welfare people can be added to the ever enlarging number of people living off of the government.

Yes, Obama is the man I'm voting for, I won't have to worry about anything so long as he is in office, he will make the government take care of me and my family and friends, and their friends and...

Early on in the first term of the GW Bush Presidency one of our planes was escorted by, and forced to land in China. The Chinese held the pilot and crew until Bush issued a formal apology. Bush vehemently claimed the plane had not violated Chinese air space, but He formally apologized to the Chinese government. I thought it was the right thing, and, in fact, the only thing He could do. Didn't hear much noise from all the righties about that. And, the Chinese kept the damn plane! Seems there's nothing as palatable to you righties as an ample supply of hypocrisy.

fuzzy44 "Romney has no foreign policy! period!"

And neither did Obama when he was running.

Come to think of it, Obama still doesn't. lol

Roy, playing that "dummy down to my level" of intelligence? For a guy with a pedigree,(Master in Business, and Chief Headhunter of Huge Company) you "seem" to have lost your focus, ala the Republicans.

@Roy Wilson: Your desperation is showing. You had to know as well as I; from the beginning, there wasn't more than a slight chance that any of that crop could beat the President on their own merits. Of course, events, I mean real events, nothing staged or exaggerated, could happen and change that. Remember, when it comes to a political campaign the President is gooood, especially since the republicans seen hell bent on feeding Him, and the people, so much fodder.

ROY WILSON-336103

oh come now.. Romney does too have a foreign policy.. Its to see how many more countries he can outsource american jobs too. Its a shame that's his only economic plan.

Remember.. even the GOP and McCain picked Sarah Palin in 2008 instead of Romney. Think about that!!!

More and more americans are waking up to Romney, he should bow out gracefully before Obama wipes him out in the end.

Throwing Israel under the bus...

Really? Israel is doing just fine, and while Obama hasn't achieved peace in that region, neither has any other President in the past 60 years. Talking to the Palestinians isn't "throwing Israel under the bus", it's necessary to negotiation.

bowing to Arab leaders...

It's called "Diplomacy". Bush did it, even St. Ronald of Reagan did it, too. In fact, I can't think of any President that didn't bow when it would be diplomatic to do so.

totally ignoring the huge Muslim terror threat...

"Ignoring", like in getting Bin Ladin and several other Al Qaida leaders, stepping up drone attacks, and thwarting several terrorist attacks? If that's "ignoring", then by all means lets have more ignoring!

unwilling to secure energy independence...

Increases in renewable energy sources and increasing sales of plug-in cars are already having an effect on oil consumption. Also, Obama had called for increased offshore drilling, just before that unfortunate BP oil spill proved that they didn't have adequate plans to prevent oil spills or clean them up. Once the oil companies get their act together and prove that they can drill responsibly, then they can get back to "drill baby drill".

making back door security give away deals to Putin...

And your evidence is? (cue crickets)
You don't have access to any "back door security" information, so I'm calling BS.

cutting defense spending...

It's what is usually done when a war ends, particularly when funds are needed elsewhere and deficits are a big problem.

putting us $6 Trillion further in debt to China...

With the Bush Jr. tax cuts and the Bush Jr. recession still in effect, it has been rather difficult to cut deficits - and made far more difficult by opposition from the Party of No to any efforts to increase tax revenues and cut spending. (what did you just say about "defense spending"?) Still, Obama hasn't yet run up as much debt as the Bush Jr. administration did, and Bush Jr. started with a surplus.

Besides, only 1 trillion of the 14 trillion dollar National Debt is owed to China, most of it is owed to wealthy investors right here in the US, made wealthier by the Bush Jr. tax cuts. Romney wants even bigger tax cuts for those same wealthy investors so US can owe even more to them!

Harley Chic

Oh Harley Chic, it is always a pleasure to prove you wrong ;)

Obama promised that if he didn’t get this economy turned around in three and a half years or he’d be a one-term president - Liar!

Actually, the economy has turned around, unless you consider going from negative job reports to positive jobs reports and economic contraction to economic growth as going from bad to worse.....

Obama promised to cut the deficit in half in three years - Liar!

He offered a $4 trillion deficit plan that favored spending cuts and got cut down by the Republicans. Tell me exactly how Romney will balance the budget by his first term and cut the debt while cutting taxes AND increasing defense spending????

Obama promised to lower the unemployment rate to below 8% - Liar!

False. Check Politifact; and lay off the Fox kool-aid.

Why should we believe a liar can do any better if given a second term?

Let's see: BECAUSE HE IMPROVED THE DAMN ECONOMY. Who would elect a shady corporate fat cat who says that corporations are people and that tax cuts to the rich create jobs????

The fact remains that for every 1 job Obama creates he loses almost 5

I'd love to see a source for that, but chances are you can't find one, unless it's from a right-wing media organization.

Also late last summer, Obama re-configured the way the national unemployment rate is calculated ... this allows Obama to erase millions from the unemployment rate ... vanish the unemployed ... how very Obama.

Hahahahaha. Unemployment is the percentage of people who are looking for work but aren't employed. You can easily find it under U-6 unemployment statistics.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Anyone who votes for Romney is an idiot. He represents a main element of what went wrong with our economy, the destruction of our well paying production based jobs and sucking out US equity and sending it to Asia. Basically he helped create the main impediments to growth — the gaping trade deficit with China and self-destructive corporate-outsourcing hysteria. Note that the companies he proudly points out he saved and are thriving are all retail companies that they ensured remained operational to sale Asia's goods to us via over extended credit. The biggest crime is that Bain unlike companies in German took no effort to reeducate and retrain those workers whose jobs went to Asia so that would continue to have productive lives. Guess that fake housing/credit bubble that only produced service and labor jobs and placed people more in debt was suppose to replace the jobs lost to Asia.

Yeah, that plan for that fake economy to replace our real capital/equiity based jobs and which created $162 trillion in fake worthless credit default swaps, worked for about a decade until it blew up in our faces. I pray to God each day that people open their eyes and see thru his crap. Everytime I see that big grin on his face while he thinks, "these idiots are buying this," I want to smack it right off him. LOL This is not coming from a liberal demagogue, but someone with an MBA who successfully worked in accounting and finance for 30 years.

Obama is truly trying to help the middle class here in America. Not only did Romney and his buddies outsource our jobs, they now want to bring in Asians to take the technical jobs remaining due to the massive paradign shift in the US workforce. The built a building in my neighborhood 5 years ago that is full of East Indians. Where you deaf for the past 10 years or didnt you hear abou the importance of building the middle class in Asia. However since in office Obama did the following:

On Feb. 17, 2009, President Obama signed into law the ("stimulus bill"), Public Law 111-5. (Section 1661 of the ARRA incorporates the Employ American Workers Act ("EAWA") by Senators Sanders (I-Vt.) and Grassley (R-Iowa) to limit certain banks and other financial institutions from hiring H-1B workers unless they had offered positions to equally or better-qualified US workers, and to prevent banks from hiring H-1B workers in occupations they had laid off US workers from. .

Also, in 2010 in an effort to discourage H-1B dependence, President Obama signed a law adding $2,000 to the fees that employers are required to pay for an H-1B visa if the employer has at least 50 employees in the United States and more than half of them are in H-1B or L-1 nonimmigrant status.

These and other H-1B visa fees, paid by employers, are used to fund technical skills training and STEM education (at the K-12 and postsecondary levels) in American communities in an effort to train our existing work force to do the jobs that H-1Bs are currently hired to do, as well as help finance fraud prevention and detection.

.Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!

Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation

…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!

..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!

Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."

“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…

NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!

Da Noid -- Asking rhetorical questions about peoples' hypothetical presences in meetings and their true thoughts in backing a statement they made makes you right in the argument instead of the jackass -- who appears to be figuratively "digging his claws into a cliff" struggling to sound as if their points are "on top" -- that you are?

rgmoon

You all forgot to mention that Obama’s foreign policy is to go around the world apologizing for the US and how bad we have been. How does that help? I know the US has not been perfect but name one other country better. If you can then you need to move there and no one here will stop you.

Oh, and I have a country that's been better than ours: the United States of America circa 1963. Back then, we were the world's savior; back then not only did people respect us, but they liked us. They thought we were the good guys, the democratic Superman to Communism's Lex Luthor. They thought that we were innocent; the only superpower not tainted by the corruption that that power brings. They were wrong. We soon became corrupted, declaring unnecessary wars and funding dictatorships in the name of "democracy." Compared to the old America, not of "conservative principles," but of the progressive movement that helped make us the greatest nation on Earth and our old democratic principles, the new America makes me sick. But instead of leaving this great country, as you would advocate, this young optimist will return us to those glory days. I am not a Ron Paul guy; not even on foreign policy. But even a "big government liberal" like myself can admit that we have gone too far.

It is kinda funny that his campaign keeps running deficits.

At least he is consistent.

I so wish Obama would get a budget in place, get so tired of hearing the right wing go on and on about something so unimportant!

Obama/Biden your path to the future!

Should we not find a way to pay for the wars before getting into them?

Most Americans also understand budgeting and fiscal responsibility. There is no way 0bama can win re-election.

Are you saying most Americans like the deficit policies of George Bush that destroyed the surplus and shredded fiscal responsibility? I don't think so. Yet Romney is promoting only fiscal irresponsibility when he supports more military spending and less tax revenue. I mean, really, are we so mathematically challenged? Romney has not proposed anything that would improve fiscal responsibility, only things that would hurt it. Romeny hasn't suggested any spending cuts, except in medicare, and then he flip-flopped on that.

I am so confused. The Iraq and Afghanastan wars were never counted in the Bush/Cheney budget (everything paid for by special billa) Yet all military costs are charged to this administration. Do we pay for war or not? If we do, how?

If there is no constructive budget in place yet, one might inquire of the obstructionist GOP to find out when they will get of their backsides and start working for the people of this country instead of against them. Since the polls show an overwhelming disapproval of congress while President Obama still leads Etch-A-Sketch, it would appear the American people are not pleased with congress in general and the Republican Party in particular. Romney is heading to a humiliating loss in November.

Are you saying most Americans like the deficit policies of George Bush that destroyed the surplus and shredded fiscal responsibility?

Most Americans may not like the deficit policies of George Bush but I'm willing to bet that they like the deficit policies of obama even less. Obama has not demonstrated any fiscal responsibility by increasing the national debt more in three plus years than Bush did in 8 years. Bush increased by $4.899T in 8 years and obama increased $4.939 in 3 years, 2 months.

Based on obama's latest budget proposal, if he is re-elected the debt will top $20T in 2016, the final year of his second term.

"...but I'm willing to bet that they like the deficit policies of obama even less."

Let's take a look at a Washington Post analysis of the current debt and see where is came from, shall we? Starting and bungling two foreign wars is pretty expensive and tanking the economy has its consequences, as Bush found out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/adding-to-the-deficit-bush-vs-obama/2012/01/31/gIQAQ0kFgQ_graphic.html

You really should get your facts straight before you embarrass yourself in public like that.

Sailcat, the House has passed budgets, only to see them pigeon-holed by Senator Harry Reid who will not even allow them to come up for a vote !

Democrat Harry Reid is the obstructionist ! But, as usual, you Dems would like to put the blame on Republicans for that as well !! LOL !!!

These wars you complain about were approved by Congress ... the same body responsible for passing a budget. Of course, the Libyan expenditure of about $1 billion was not approved by Congress.

"These wars you complain about were approved by Congress"

The wars were approved by Congress but conducted by the Executive branch per the Constitution...and they were badly fumbled by Bush. In the case of the war in Iraq, the information provided to congress by the Bush administration was inaccurate and often fabricated. Either way, the wars were a tragic mistake due the incompetence of George Bush, but they were a huge boon to Bush/Cheney's cronies at Halliburton.

Honesty, integrity, and moral character are not principles that are embraced by Republicans, however.

Also, when I google Budget stalled by Reid, all I get are right wing neo-fascist zombie sites with no credible news organization reporting that Reid is obstructing the budget process. You members of the right wing lunatic fringe will do anything in a feeble attempt to make reality conform to your insane fantasies, won't you?

As a conservative, I'd say unequivacably NO to "do I like the deficits run up under Bush?".... and I like the even bigger deficits run up under Obama even less... but unlike creating runaway entitlements, you don't always get to decide ahead of time if/when you fight a war... and yes, they cost a lot of money... but one thing I find Liberals particulary stupid about is the direct relationship between cheap energy and a growing economy... this president is especially obtuse when it comes to understanding that, or he'd not be blocking every kind of energy production that doesn't put money in his friends' pockets... like it or not, we're dependent on foreign (Middle East) oil... and I guarantee you that if Iran tries to block the Strait of Hormuz, we'll be in another war... and no, retarded Liberals, we won't have budgeted for it ahead of time...

The GOP seems obtuse in trying to protect the bloated and hugely expensive defense budget. The military-industrial complex has become the largest single entitlement program in our country and it is bleeding us dry. It is time to force the obstructionist Republicans to take a hard look at our defense spending and scale back our huge military machine.

The US spends approximately as much on our military as the rest of the world combined:

http://www.globalfirepower.com/defense-spending-budget.asp

Sailcat, the military conducted the wars, not Bush. The field generals run the war, not the guy in the White House. Furthermore, there is ample evidence that the requested and approved "Surge" in Iraq did work. The generals requested, Bush approved it ......... and then Obama took credit for the ability to terminate the Iraq war.

Furthermore, the terminology "weapons of mass destruction" started under Bill Clinton and Madeleine Albright .... an "inconvenient truth" for you liberals.

No way!! Obama is going to win in a landslide!!! I bet he takes every single state by 10%.

Wow, the Democrats are so charged up!! We have too many helpers at my campaign office. We had over 1,000 people sign up to help.

Wow.

Obama is going to win. Even Tyler - the perfect moderator on MSNBC - says that Obama will win easily.

That is great news!!!!!

Could someone please point out some facts about HOW Romney would be good for the economy?

Iknow I am just a 77 year old fart down here in Florida but I keep searching for what Romney did/could do for the ecomomy.

The unemployment rate in Massachetts went way up while he was Governor. He has no trackrecord of creating jobs with his business practices. Where does his business sense come into play in solving the American Economic problem?

.

He wanted to abolish General Motors and the rest of the Automobile Industry. He thinks that the Rich should not pay taxes ie Reagan and Bush. That simply doesn't work. It was called trickle down ecomomics but the only thing that trickled down was the massive debt it generated. At one time the Democrats called it Voodo Ecomomics which is what it actually turned out to represent.

Please someone tell me what Romney represents that will help us out of this Economic mess?

"...the military conducted the wars, not Bush."

You have no idea what you are talking about, do you? The president is the executive officer of the military. He is in charge. Period. The president cuts loose with money, resources, and equipment as he sees fit. He also formulates military strategies and policies. His Defense Secretary applies the president's policies to the military in all aspects of its operation. Speaking of failed policies, I am sure your selective memory stumbles when it comes to remembering that it was a scandal throughout much of Bush's failed prosecution of the war in Iraq and families were buying body armor for their sons and daughters who were stationed there, while other soldiers were scrounging in scrap heaps for improvised armor to attach to their vehicles to deal with roadside bombs. Bush was negligent and incompetent.

As for the 2007 surge, why did it take four full years before Bush finally gave the military the latitude and resources to conduct an operation that military commanders had been requesting all along? Does that sound like a competent Commander in Chief to you?

So Fed Up, why did Bush/Cheney decide ahead of time to fight the Iraq war; they targeted Iraq prior to 9/11. Was that a necessary expense? Don't give me the baloney about WMDs and everybody saying Saddam had them because the allies saying it were fed the same unsubstantiated claims we were and then there were Freedom Fries because France didn't believe it. And don't bring Clinton into it because that comment was made in the years following the first Iraq war.

As for the deficit spending by President Obama, the facts are out there if anyone bothers to look including that in years past the GOP has been quick to deficit spend to stimulate the economy but not after Jan 20, 2009. Obama inherited a depression; he inherited total economic collapse in not just a decline in certain areas but every aspect of the economy collapsed. He inherited two unfunded and unfinished lengthy wars, massive unfunded spending by the unchallenged Bush administration.

It angers me that now, conservatives talk about the deficit and the debt but never a peep about who created it, who took a budget surplus and plunged us into budget deficit in less than one year. Instead, it's all President Obama's fault; the debt belongs to him and him alone. Conservatives ignore that government must deficit spend during economic crisis yet they whine about President Obama doing just that. I'm fiscally conservative but I'm also smart enough to know that when a country and its people are in trouble economically, the fiscally responsible thing to do is deficit spend. Those who preach austerity need only look at Europe for the result of that kind of thinking. Now Europe threatens to knock our recovery off the road.

When Ronald Reagan turned us from a creditor nation into a debtor nation, where was the conservative fiscal outrage? Not a peep. Where was it when Bush 43 did it again? Not a peep. I have little respect for conservatives who only care about the deficit and the debt when a GOPer isn't in the White House. Hypocrites, thy name is today's Republican.

Jody - great post. Isn't it funny (not really) that the far right has no problem with overwhelming debt when it is created by the Republican party? No one DARES complain about Reagan and Bush but will target Obama every chance they get.

It truly shows how lacking in integrity and intelligence those complainers are. But, they're also the ones who have to call the President names so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Obama/Biden 2012

Alcoholic Boehner was just on TV giving his one minute between drinks. His face looked like it's about to melt down to his belly button.

He'll never make it another 10 years, which is a good thing.

Romney/Bachmann 2012

Take the country back to the 1950's.

I am a conservative and I am sure you would consider me far right. I will complain about the spending that Bush did. I was too young to remember the Regan years but take it from a a far right nut job as you call us. Bush was not our best president. But Obama has been even worse.

moon you are far from being objective.

I will agree that bush43 was not our best president, in fact, he is with out question our worst.

elliot-3020456: Seems like some of you are still goose-stepping to Republican Propaganda and its Anti-Christ verbalization (Neo-Nazi), but now I am inclined to see it as goose-stepping to China's Communist Propaganda.

7-19-12......repubs obstruct bill to remove tax breaks from companies that out source American jobs.

Repubs obstruct in that same bill giving tax breaks to companies that bring back jobs to American.

Republicans the party of foreigners! Part of No to American workers.

When Romney gets to England, under Citizens United republican rule, Romney will get the largest amount of money fromforeign banks. Since he is hiding those accounts, he doesn't want you to know he was bought by the rich all over the world.

the thinker-318752

Are you saying most Americans like the deficit policies of George Bush that destroyed the surplus and shredded fiscal responsibility?

Most Americans may not like the deficit policies of George Bush but I'm willing to bet that they like the deficit policies of obama even less. Obama has not demonstrated any fiscal responsibility by increasing the national debt more in three plus years than Bush did in 8 years. Bush increased by $4.899T in 8 years and obama increased $4.939 in 3 years, 2 months.

Actually, Bush increased the debt by about $6.2 trillion, because his fiscal policy started in 2002 and ended in 2009. The debt at the beginning of FY 2002 was around $5.7 trillion; the debt at the end of FY 2009 was about $11.9 trillion. Obama increased the deficit by around $4 trillion, as the current debt is around $15.9 trillion. And much of that was because of the recession and the Bush tax cuts,

Based on obama's latest budget proposal, if he is re-elected the debt will top $20T in 2016, the final year of his second term.

Well, according to the CBO, debt would be around $18 trillion in 2016. And since none of Obama's budgets have been passed, I'd trust the CBO.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Wow smitty - is it you don't see the difference between 'being around' and running a country of million that is a powder keg, or yuo just can't fit that into the Obama rocks foreign policy narrative.

By the way, you don't seemed to have grasped the 'reply' feature.

spanky Wow there you go with the premise that all Muslims are bad. I guess we should went in and brought in a puppet government. Its there country what business is it of ours who they elect. Tell me how are we to tell them what to do?

For being a lawyer your spelling sucks. Spell checking not working?

Uh, Spanky, isn't it up to the Egyptians to determine who should be in charge there?

Ya see, we've played the game of "puppet regimes" in the Middle East before. I mean, isn't there a reason Iran loves us so much?

Smitty, Da Noid - I hope you're not holding your breath waiting for something intelligent from the "lawyer" Spanky. Not happening! But he will do the same parroting he's been doing for weeks!

Obama/Biden 2012

PS: IT plays well with those in opposition to tolerance regardless of Race, Nationality, Religion or Sexual Preferences. In fact, these rejects are so inspired that, once let loose, mayhem will follow -- patterned like the "Brown Shirts" or the "SS Black Shirts" of Nazi Germany or the Maoists from Communist China.

Romney's economic plan is the same as Bush -- tax cuts for the richest of the rich, increased military spending and cuts in regulations. It didn't work then and it won't work now.

@ SeekingSanity - do you ever post something without insulting someone?

I wonder if that would be a great line for the debates.

Don't forget that when asked why none of his sons deemed it worthy enough to enlist for military service, Romney said that his sons are serving, trying to get him elected to be president. Now that is a great service to the country, I will tell my son who is on active duty at present that he should have done that instead. Cowards.

Obama has no military experience, he does however like to help friends with money get millions in grants then go broke. He was raising money with them forlks from Solyndra but MSNBC didn't get the memo. Obama's a sleaz, just look at Fast and Furious.

Well ED, you must be related to Obama, becuase you're just blathering lies stream of thought just like he does when there's no teleprompter....

U R right Ed.

Romeny is going to end everything and put everyone in the unemployed line.

been there-#####s.....the difference is rich Mitt was privileged and went to France to minister for the the Mormon church while all the underprivileged regular folks went to Vietnam. There was no war when the POTUS was of the comparable age.

Al-Dud Uh if memory serves me right being a veteran or having children who serve is not a pre-requisite for being President. Mind you I support the military 100 percent as many of my family members have or currently serve in all branches of the military. You might try asking the President about his family's service.

tyates - President Obama was not of age when we were in Vietnam. Try keeping up!

How can a liberal Obama supporter call Romney a draft dodger?

The same way that conservatives called Bill Clinton a draft dodger when he was running for President...or did you forget about that? As Mr. Romney likes to say, "SAUCE!"

Fast and Furious started under Bush in Phoenix "Been There".

The only place you have "been" is Faux News.

Uh yeah SS but he was during other later conflicts.

Seeking sanity,

You need to try keeping up. Obama has never even considered military service and for the Lefties to diss Romney for not serviing is a joke. Obama has barely even held a job, oh wait he was a community organizer.

ksw62118... Bush was of age but he decided to desert (in time of war, a treasonable offence)

Romney caught again misleading public.

Romney had a speech set up with we built it sign in background. He had several people at table saying THEY built their business w/out help. OOOPS The guy to the left, took almost 3 million to get his company going,. Guy to right...$41,000 loan to get him going....from the ...GOVERNMENT!....No they didn't build it. OOPS!

Romney liar in chief. Wants to be king, but the job open is for president.

Vote Obama/Biden 2012

I love Fox News they have all the good looking girls.Not ugly like the other networks.

Romney and ? 2012

I see you don't understand the whole point.

This isn't about "loving the current administration", it is about who is perceived to be better on different aspects...romney or obama. duh.

clue for the clueless: no one loves romney either.

That's funny, I can't find anybody that likes likes ole Willard.

And the alternative is Hussein.......

When he ran for office, he picked Ole Joe because of his LACK of experience in foreign affairs. Nothing is going to convince me that he has mastered anything yet.

"hussein"? lol, I see you are one of the few who still think you are being "clever" by calling him that in some immature way of somehow trying to bring muslims into the picture. how silly.

With him muslim is always in the picture

If the left is going to play name games, then Hussein is up for grabs too...........

Too bad it bothers the left more than Willard does the right.

Too bad it bothers the left more than Willard does the right.

It doesn't bother me one bit. Especially when you look at the source.

Steve - totally ignorant. Why would Willard bother the right? It's his name stupid!

And, no one with a brain is bothered by the Hussein toss out. It just shows the ignorance - once again - of the right wing.

Obama/Biden 2012

Even my golfing buddies in Arkansas who can't stand Obama can't believe that Romney is going to be their canidate.

Their going to hold their noses and vote thought.

Ji - most conservative southerners won't vote. Or they'll vote for all but the top office - aren't about to pull the lever for a Mormon!

tyates5445: The Elite have always had the ability to stay out of the Armed Forces going back to the our first war that made us the U.S. Back then they paid others to take their place. Since WWII and Vietnam, they just get an exemption courtesy of some Politician.

SS, I hope you are correct, the mexicians will change Arkansas in a few years to democrat and I'm going to laugh.

But, i've lived in Tulsa, New Orleans, Dallas, Vegas for years before retiring back here at 52 - now 63.

spin baby spin

NBC poll shows today President Obama leads Romney 49% to 43%. This despite Romney being on both sides of the issue at one time or another. Guess that is not working for Romney either.

Repubs putting voter suppression laws all over the country trying to rig the elections by keeping the elderly, the poor, and the young from voting. Rove said if they get 1% of people not able to vote in 9 states repubs could win the election. Top repub in Pennsylvania bragged he got voter suppression law through to win the election for Romney. Trying to steal the election. Trying to stop the elderly from voting. Trying to stop the poor from voting. Trying to stop the young from voting. can't buy the election Romney has to rig the election to try and win.

Vote Obama/Biden, and Democratic party, save your right to vote!

I am a conservative, democrat, mormon from Pennsylvania. I will be voting for President Obama. I hope and pray that President Obama gets reelected and the democrats take the house and keep the senate for the good of the country. Please vote democrat and break this stalemate by the Republicans of no, and move our country forward.

mccain might beg to differ. iraq dominated the last election.

Actually, Bush dominated the last election. Independents wanted a change, change in the economy, Iraq, Afghanistan, deficit spending, corporate bailouts. Above all, independents wanted someone like candidate Obama who was seen as someone who could unite the nation. NOT

OBAMA / BIDEN 2012---STILL CLEANING UP BUSH'S MESS!!!

JOB1,

Stale bread. The latest Pew Research poll showed for the first time that Americans are blaming President Mr. Obama for the economy. The poll had blaming President Mr. Obama at the top, followed by the global economy and activity in the Middle East, with blaming Bush at the bottom.

right..bush dominated the last election because of his FOREIGN POLICY (blunders). Mccain got tarred by the FOREIGN POLICY brush.

glad you agree with me. Last election, foreign policy > economics.

What amazes so many, is the fact that this foolish man, Willard Romney the talking lying buffoon, is the Republican choice for President of the United States.

What amazes even more is Barack Hussein Obama getting elected to the White House with little experience, relying on U.S. stupidity to "BUY" into the vagueness of "Hope" and "Change".

Now, Obama's inabilities show on a daily basis .... no budgets, no plan, and no clue.

Jim. The last time I checks th Republican House was responsible for the National Budget. They submit the Budget to the Senate and with the advice and concent of the Senate they send the Budget to the White House. Has this process been followed? NO!!!

The House could not wipe it's ass with both hands full of toilet paper. They should all be impeached for treason. What the Republican House has done to the American system of Government is a treasonable offense.

Every day some stupid Elected Republican Representitive comes out with another dumb statement , instead of doing their job which is representing the people in their Distrists..

jim....chill man! We got to re-elect Mr. Obama! He can make all the "bread" to keep us going for a while, other wise somebody might start talking Budget.....just sayin' Obama money is like Manna from Heaven! Free and easy!!!!

What amazes everyone is you couldn't find one decent democrat to run against the worst President ever.

rukidding - and you consider Romney decent? You have VERY LOW standards! However, he will be running against President Obama, not Bush who is and will forever be the worst President ever.

Obama/Biden 2012

Road,

The difference was Perot. He took way more votes from Bush than he did Clinton. You take Perot out and the election and Bush would have won.

Carter was despised by Georgians so much so that they made up an adage that stated "That Hell would freeze over before he would become a President". Please note that (at that time) Miami, Florida recorded a snow storm the day of his swearing in and his becoming the President....

Then along came Clinton....

Then the bottom really hit bottom with the Bush I and II Eras. The Iraqi War? Bush II was trying to save Face of Bush I. No reason, No rhyme. No WMD's except those sent by the U.S.

I can't dig a hole deep enough to get as low as standards as you SS. Bush was better. There really is no debate on that point. Anything knows that. You can rant and rave all you dare but this one is the absolute worst period. Any you couldn't even find any looser in your broken party to stand up to the most spineless so called leader in history.

What a broken party you have become.

Little jimmy....doing the old I know you are what am I rant......

President Obama has shown and processed his plans daily for years. You will not find them on your favorite shows, faux news and Nick at Night!

rukiddig47... On what planet do you reside?

I don't think its jobs he is after but votes! He is a little confused

How well has President Mr. Obama's experience translated to running the country's economics, hmmm? Losing coaches don't get contract extensions.

Let's see, you couldn't dispute anything I posted, so you decided to deflect to President Obama. In other words, you've got nothing.

Okay, I'll play along . . . but only for a while, idiots like you, Road Warrior-252445, become boring very quickly.

How about over 28 straight months of private sector job growth despite the Republican/TP Inc. party blocking practically everything he has proposed to help the economy?

How about the fact that the deficit has gone down every year that he has been in office? Again, despite the fact that practically every policy he has proposed to lower thge deficit, and debt has been blocked by the Republican/TP Inc. party.

How about the fact that only about $900 billion of the debt can be attributed to policies passed during President Obama's administration?

Winning coaches need a team willing to play and to try and win to have a winning season. When the Republican/TP Inc. half of the team won't be a part of the team, and has said that their number 1 goal was to make President Obama a one term president, then maybe we should get rid of the people on the team causing the problem. We need to get rid of the Republican/TP Inc. players . . . err, non-players.

What about his Solyndra Scandal? Fast and Furious Fiasco leaving at least one American Dead and contributing to the countless deaths in Mexico, What about getting out of Afghanistan by his second year? As an Independent I can't vote for Mr. Executive Privelege.

Chris in Houston,

You are a funny man, brainiac. Saying 28 straight months of job growth is like saying the unemployment rate was 8.5% 28 months ago, but it's 8.2% now. LOL

I like the next one even better. The deficit declined every year since Obama has been in office. $1.6, $1.5, $1.4, $1.3 trillion. Yep, gone down every year. LOL

And if you can't win and you blame the players, it's most likely lack of leadership and plan at the top.

You two idiots are funny. Neither one of you has been able to dispute anything I've said, so you bring up talking points, and mock the facts because you don't like the facts.

Solyndra was not even close to a scandal. There is no 'there' there. Want to talk scandal? How about Watergate (Republican president), or Iran/Contra (Republican president), invading a country that was no threat to the US (Iraq) based on lies (Republican president), outing a CIA operative (Republican vice-President). Now those are real scandals, and don't even go into the "sex scandal" of Clinton, it does not even compare.

Fast & Furious? Really? That isn't even close to being any kind of scandal, nor was it in any way the fault of the President. And exaggerating it the way BeenThere did shows how desperate BeenThere is to try and pin something on the President. The only scandal that occurred because of Fast & Furious was the hearings held by Rep. Issa, and the contempt vote in the House. A colossal waste of time that was a blatant attempt to embarrass this administration.

You two idiots are too easy. I'm done with you fools.

What about his Solyndra Scandal? Fast and Furious Fiasco

What scandal, what fiasco? There is no scandal, this is no fiasco, except within the dream world of republican fantasy Candy "Issa" Land. Oh right, I forget how easily you people are duped, like into believing we must invade Iraq because they flew planes into towers. Dumb and dumber, leading dumbest.

fed up.....you're so silly. calling peopele out of name with nothing else to say.

Issa is trying to make a big deal out of a local sting operation that did not turn out as planed. When you track guns thru a Drug gang how the hell could you be successful? These guys are professional at what they do sell drugs and kill people. The fact that guns were lost in the sting operation is a minor problem. I know an agent was killed or at least a gun was found at the sence of the killing that was a sting gun. We are dealing with murders here not nice law abiding American Citizens who sold the drug lords the guns. BULL.

Not Issa doing the coverup

Do you mean gun-running, car thief Issa? Nothing like a dirty GOP-TP politician.

Fast and Furious was a disgrace to the White House, and they owe one young man's family an apology for supplying the gun that killed their son. Solyndra - serious money to Polosi's Brother in law, goes broke after receiving millions in Grants.

Fast and Furious was a disgrace to the White House,

In what way was this a disgrace to the White House? Did the White House personally deliver the gun to the killers that murdered the border agent? What did happen is the Arizona Department of Justice refused to prosecute cases of legal gun purchases, thus allowing the guns to be purchased at Arizona gun stores and walked across the border. Sounds like the shame/blame game is all on Arizona and their lax fun laws.

FYI - since you clearly do not read up on or study issues before you start placing blame, the only guns ever run across the border by the ATF were by the whistle blower being paid off by Issa, after his direct supervisor told him not to run the guns. Gee, wonder why he went crying to Issa - to save his ass from being criminally prosecuted? Me thinks so!!

"Romney's experience in business does not translate into good experience to run a country's economics."

Exactly. George w. Bush was a businessman. So was Hoover.

And if Romney gains Office, we will surpass the "Great Depression" because all jobs will be sent to China and other Countries, our Military will become the property of Corporation perhaps owned by China, our Justice System, ditto.

Communist China is on our Most Preferred List and has been since we bent to the "WTO" wishes. Now China owns a good chunk of the Worlds Gold and they owned both Corporation here and in our sister Nations not counting the Property owned by them. They are on a "Buying Spree" and we are their "Prey".

PS: How many of you know of a Cold War Pact made between the U.S. and China -- China would fight the U.S.S.R along side of the U.S.and NATO? That is a hidden FACT that NO President has disclosed so far.

I keep wondering why everyone keeps blaming President Obama for the Solyandra deal....it started during Bush's watch. He was the one that thought it was such a great opportunity.....Obama merely finished the deal that Bush started. Check that on FactCheck, okay? Additionally, if you check, you'll find that the deficit has grown less under President Obama's watch than any of the presidents since Reagan. Hard to believe, but true.

Hi Didi......So right, hard for the rt wingers to believe the deficit has grown less under President Obama's watch than any other president since Reagan because Fox news has them brainwashed to not know of any real facts. When they don't hear real facts from their only news source they forget how to process real facts in their thinking process. That's why Fox news just repeats over and over....same lies, it works on people because of the atrophy of their thought process.

Obama/Biden 2012

HONEST: Correction, the Right would even vote for Dubya once again. Evidently they've chosed to forget the nightmarish scenerio that Bush left us.

I just don't want to vote for the same thing we have had the last 4 years. Obama has no skill to lead, create a budget, he set a health care reform that we can't pay for. And for fun they put 250,000 people on disability last year alone. Anything has to be better - maybe we should get a fifth grader.

Anything has to be better - maybe we should get a fifth grader.

And yet, you can't even tell us how Romney will improve the situation. Let me guess, you are voting for Romney because God came to you and said it must be so.

Romney at least has some experience in financial problems, he can add and subtract and knows when he's out of money. I'm not saying there is really any solution to this mess, I just would hate it to get worse like Spain. Obama has had his time and failed. He was a big disappointment for me, I voted for a transparent government and thought Obama would lead us to that, get rid of lobbyists, get us out of war, you remember those things he so eloquently stated while he was campaigning.

RedDev - I'll tell you how Romney will improve the situation, he isn't Obama. Hell, he could just sit in the WH and pick the lint out of his belly button and he would do more for this country than Obama.

Redhead Ranting - your posts fit your name. All you do is rant and rave - and say nothing at all. Typical Republican.

As I always say, seeking sanity in the GOP and as Ranting, Been there, etc., prove daily, there is no sanity to be found in the GOP!

Obama/Biden 2012

That's the best you can do is comment on my screen name?

Seriously?

Facts Republicans Hate:

Job losses per month in January 2008: 800,000

Job gains last month: 80,000

29 straight months of private sector job growth

GDP growth in 2008: negative 6%

GDP growth last year 2.9%

Dow Jones Average in January 2008: Under 8000

Dow Jones Average today: 12,700+

Record domestic oil production

GM – all time record profits

Near record corporate profits across the board

Osama Bin Laden --- dead

Iraq war --- over

Charlie,

The "FACT" is we just hate the job Obama is doing.

Got it! Nuff said!!! So now you know!!!!

Do not confuse the left with facts. They do not understand them. They have never used them. It would go against there beliefs.

Do not confuse the left with facts.

You have that reversed --- it's the right who hate facts.

Well...there you rt wingers go again....not understanding why you can't process facts. Let me help you once more with numerous studies done.

Studies show that when certain stimuli are presented to republican/conservatives brains, the part of the brain that reacts is the part of the brain presenting fear.....While same stimuli presented to brains of Demacratic/liberal brains, the part of brain that reacts is the part that presents logic and reasoning.

Republicons...there are monsters under your beds tonight....gonna getcha.....

Vote Obama/Biden 2012 vote for logic and reasoning not fear....

I'll tell you how Romney will improve the situation, he isn't Obama.

And that's all ya got, ain't it. Would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

Starsailing, I believe studies also show conclusively that the richer someone is, the less empathy they are likely to have.

This explains to me the fact that conservatives are railing against food stamps. They don't like feeding people who need food subsistence help. I guess they can't empathize with being hungry, or having hungry children. Food insecurity, in America.

They also can't seem to empathize with sick people who are denied health insurance because of the infamous "pre-existing conditions" because that cuts into the corporate bottom line and egregiously large executive bonuses for the for profit health insurance business. Uninsured sick people, in America.

They also don't seem to care that young people are going into debt at extortionate rates to pay for education costs. Bankrupting a generation of ambitious young people, in America.

As for our foreign war engagements, they don't seem to care that we have squandered young lives and immense wealth, maybe because they don't have to put anything on the line, and in fact stand to gain if they have stock in any corporations involved in the industrial military complex. War profiteering, in America.

I could go on, but...what's the point. The empathy is ...not ...there.

And yet, the overall tone from the right is that they, somehow, have been hard done by.

It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

tru dat!! lol

Been There-406834: LOL. Obama has been stonewalled by The Republican Party since Day 1!!!! Yet the TP/Republicans elected to Office has managed to add billion of recurring debt by gerrymandering votes by stating that the Bills were merely "Mandates-Not actual expenditures".

P.T.Barnum has been credited with a famous faux saying "That there is a Sucker born every minute". However, that adage is still very true regardless of who coined it.

SCGuardian. et al: COMPROMISING and working across party lines to get things done is the President's job, like Clinton did so well. Obama even had both the House and Senate for TWO years and failed.

He's great at one thing though...BLAMING OTHERS. He WAS NOT elected merely to give excuses.

nutjob1. You want Romney to scout out locations so one of Obama's top bundlers, the Managing Director at Bain, Jonathan Lavine can ship jobs to it? You want Romney to help one of Obama's bundlers so Obama can get more camaign cash from Bain. The typical twisted libby logic of nutjob1 on full display.

Bain is Willard's baby and ole Willard can't hide from that fact.

Again .. what Solyndra scandal?

Like most Liberals RedDev is either in denial or has amnesia....

Job 1 but Bain contributed more to Democrats than Republicans so I guess the libs look the other way when it comes to campaign contributions. I am so confused by libs, are Bain profits bad or good only when they support Democrats?

http://articles.boston.com/2012-05-23/nation/31814221_1_obama-campaign-mitt-romney-romney-claims

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/205025-dems-receive-more-bain-dollars-than-gop/

Fed Up,

Solyndra's grant was approved under Bush. Shocking I know.

Job1 - During Leno's opening last night he explained that the reason Romney is taking a while to pick his Vice presidential candidate is because he's not used to filling American jobs!

@ Geowil You should work with actual facts. The loan program was started under Bush but the loan to Solyndra was not approved under his administration. Google is a wonderful thing when you know how to use it.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/06/technology/solyndra/index.htm

Are all of you cons who are so upset abut the 500 million that disappeared in Solyndra 20 times as upset about the 10 BILLION that disappeared (went to Halliburton) in Iraq??

KSW,

Bush would have approved it was my point. Its just the like the vacations attack or the campaigning attack. It's all bulls*** political posturing.

Geowil and how do you have personal knowledge that Bush would have approved it? Guess you are a mind reader.

Ever notice the right villifies a Democratic president

It is the GOP/TP way. Can you imagine being a child of one of those pathetic pigs. Bring home an A+ and get bitch-slapped, grounded, sent to bed without dinner, beaten because it wasn't an A++ (an unattainable grade).

fed up....the Dems only had 60 for votes for a short period as Ted Kennedy was absent due to illness (cancer) and his replacement only served five months before being replaced by Brown (R). Even with Ted, the 59th and 60th votes belonged to Independents. One being the chameleon Lieberman. So your 60 votes in the Senate premise is very flawed, as most of your posts today have been.

Al-Dud - we've explained this to the mental midgets on the right a dozen times. It was 7 short months during which time our President actually thought the Republicans wanted what was best for the country and would work toward that goad. Because of Ted Kennedy's illness and recesses, the actual time was about 4 months.

Obama/Biden 2012

Fed Up: I don't know about anyone else on this post, but I'm personally getting sick of your names for our president. As a retired military officer, I learned one thing....if you don't like your boss, at least respect his position. You may not like President Obama, but he IS the elected President of the United States....respect that if nothing else! Calling President Obama names only shows your ignorance and disrespect....which seems to prevail in the GOP party lately! Can't you make your arguments without being such a child? Really......

So tell me then is it ok for the left to heap the abusive names on Bush that they did while he was President and even now while he isn't? Some names come to mind but I'm sure I left a few of the many. "Hitler", "Bozo", "Dumbo", "Dubya", just to name a few. What a double standard.

time for a change , obama is a colossal failure. romney not good , but a huge improvement over obama. obama nothing more than a cross between scammer tony robbins and the kardashians. the only difference is the kardashians are smarter. lol

Mitt's going to help the 51% by making you lazy deadbeat 49% go to work.

We must admit to Mitt's vast foreign policy experience. It entails a two-year mission in France preaching the virtues of Mormonism, frequent visits to the Cayman Islands and Switzerland to visit his money, and chatting with his relatives over the border in Mexico (you know, those relatives that hate America).

And Snow - maybe you should be the one getting a job. Your 'snow' addiction seems to have clouded your ability to talk about issues - and besides, I'm tied of getting high off of your rolled twenty dollar bills.