Naa, Feisty we'd much prefer the good old current days of Obama:

Unemployment at 8.2%, with millions fewer in the workforce.

GDP growth approaching zero, and wages declining. Poverty about to hit an all time high, and real estate values in the toilet.

Yep, it really is about a choice.

Didn't catch the ad, did it mention the stimulus or Obamacare?

Spanky - Stop blaming Obama for being saddled with the failures of your party from 2000-2008, and on top of that, the incompetent @!$%# Tea-baggers you call Congressmen...

Obama/Biden 2012

Prior to President Obama, the last five Democratic Presidents, Clinton, Carter, LBJ, JFK, and Truman all reduced the debt. The last four Republican Presidents, GW Bush, GHW Bush, Reagan, and Ford all increased the debt.

It has been more than thirty years since a Republican, President Nixon reduced the debt.

You have to go back to F.D. Roosevelt to find a Democratic President that "allowed" debt to increase. It happened and he did so because of WW II and the Great Depression. During 1946, the debt was 109% of GDP.

I point out FDR because President Obama came into office with two unfunded wars and a recession. The significant damage to the economy he inherited in many ways parallels FDR's situation with respect to overall weakness in the economy and a war footing. Note that the recession ended in early 2010 after President Obama's efforts and economic policies started to take effect.

Frankly, without the efforts made by the current administration I believe we'd still be in the recession and further "down the toilet."

I'll also point out that it was the Republicans that rejected the "grand bargain" which would have reduced the debt by 4 trillion dollars in the next 10 years because they refused to accept the closure of tax loopholes and an increase in overall taxes. They rejected 3 dollars in expenditures cutting for every 1 dollar in revenue increase.

With unemployment so high, it sure is a good thing the republicans are protecting the corporations with tax cuts to pay for moving our jobs overseas.

Once again the republicans prove they care more for the rich and their tax cuts than they care for America and jobs.

You know the mantra, jobs, jobs, jobs in China that the republicans are helping to create. In 2010 the republicans promised jobs, they just didn't say where.

Spanky, per the CBO the stimulus did what is was supposed to do. It worked to "stimulate" jobs and economic growth. It was never intended to be the only thing that was done. Congress failed to follow up the stimulus with the passage meaningful job acts.

Per http: //www. igmchicago.org/igm-economic-experts-panel/poll-results?SurveyID=SV_cw5O9LNJL1oz4Xi , 80% of all economists agree that it worked also.

I'll also point out that per the CBO the 2008 tax rebates by President Bush didn't do a thing.

source: http: //www .cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/96xx/doc9617/06-10-2008stimulus.pdf

"Over the next four months you have a choice to make. Not just between two political parties or even two people. It's a choice between two very different plans for our country. Governor Romney's plan would cut taxes for the folks at the very top, roll back regulations on big banks, and he says that if we do our economy will grow and everyone will benefit. But you know what? We tried that top-down approach. It's what caused the mess in the first place. I believe the only way to create an economy built to last is to strengthen the middle class. Asking the wealthy to pay a little more so we can pay down our debt in a balanced way. So that we can afford to invest in education, manufacturing, and homegrown American energy for good middle class jobs. Sometimes politics can seem very small. But the choice you face, it couldn't be bigger."

Well said Mr. President, well said. Obama/Biden - 2012!

So let me get this straight.....

Obama talks about how he has done... well he doesn't talk about anything he's done, does he?

Obama then threatens what Romney will do to hurt everybody when and IF he gets elected.

Only in Wacky world is this a "positive" ad buy.

Alil Common Sense -- Do you just "swoop and poop?" I could swear we've gone over this before. A re-post:

bman80

1. First president to successfully ensure that every American will have medical care without regard to pre-existing conditions. This includes some 20 million children.
2. Raised fuel standards on American cars to nearly double by 2024, going up to 55MPG.
3. Race to the Top education reform promising higher standards.
4. Saved American auto industry.
5. Withdrew all combat troops from Iraq as promised in 2008 campaign.
6. Got a measure of justice for 9/11 killings by killing bin Laden.
7. Improved foreign relations with the rest of the world. I don't know how much you travel overseas, Chuck but the world is a little friendlier since Obama became president..
8. Severely crippled Al Queda's ability to launch attacks against the U.S.
9. Supported the end of the regime in Libya without loss of any U.S. forces.
10. Knows when to use soft power and hard power.
11. Turned around a financial crisis threatening a depression.
12. Recognized the ignorance of austerity during a severe recession; something the GOP and many European governments failed to recognize.
13.Built strongerprograms for military families.
14. Ended "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in military.
15. Supported gay marriage as a recognition of a civil right.
16. Recognition that Bush tax cuts were inappropriate when fighting two unpaid wars..
17. Realizes the enormous income gaps between rich and poor ought to be addressed as a matter of justice/fairness.
18. Opened travel to Cuba for Cuban American families.
19. Supported tighter banking regulations.
20. Countered China's push for hegemony in the Pacific by suppporting countries in the region.
21. Accomplished all of the above(most were campaign promises of 2008) despite a republican leadership stating that his defeat was their priority right from the start of his administration.

This is the record of an administration deserving another four years.

It's Romney who needs to prove himself, and he's not doing a good job of it.

Swoop and poop? Perhaps you should read the text of the post just before mine.

Then reread what I wrote. Slowwwwlllyyyyyy......

Can you understand? Do you take issue with what I said about the President's EXACT OWN WORDS?

In addition, as has been pointed out to you before on many occasions, the cut and paste list you keep on file is full of many so called "accomplishments" thate were either detrimental to the country as a whole, or based on outright falsehoods.

And a lot of that stuff he just said. He never did anything about it.

Oh my gosh A-little - you and Rush Limbaugh sound like you would make a perfect pair.

I think your buddy Rush is lazy. He can't possibly have a research team and it's more than obvious he doesn't fact check then fact check again. Rather he lies and distorts the truth and outright makes stuff up to rile up his audience of radical right wingers. Rush is in for the money - thanks to you and people like you he makes millions and millions of dollars a year.

And by the way - every time I see him bouncing up and down (at the RNC)chanting his own name it makes me a little sick to my stomach. What an ego maniac.

Rush? WTF brought up Rush?

You guys are just desperate to talk about ANYTHING besides Obama's negative campaign.

His ad does not talk about anything he has done!

Do you deny this?

His ad simply tries to paint Romney as somebody voters should "run from".

Can you deny this?

Furthermore, MSNDC is trying to spin this as a "positive" ad.

Can you deny that this is NOT a "positive" ad??

Or just change the subject. Whatever.

If the truth paints Romney as someone you should run from then I would run.

In Foreign policy Romney has hired 17 bush most right wing advisers who pushed the wars. In Economics Romney has hired most of bush old advisers who pushed the tax cuts.

I don't know about you, but I am not ready to go back to the bush days of blindly rushing to war while cutting taxes for the rich and pretending that deficits don't matter. Well not enough to raise taxes on those paying only 13% anyway.

The republicans just graciously voted to keep the tax cuts for the corporations that send our jobs overseas. Get this the corps get to claim the moving cost of our jobs overseas in addition to special tax cuts.

How can anyone believe the republicans care about America or jobs in any way, especially after a vote like that?

Seriously is there anyone who really believes this BS con-job the republicans are selling? If so, please tell me how taking our tax dollars to pay for taking jobs away from America is creating jobs the republicans promised in 2010?

Lols at you.

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Like I said, desperate to not acknowledge the President is a low down mudslinger.

Say, who runs the Office of Management and Budget?

I know, I know, but it's True! Obama actually has such an office!

Obama appointed him.

Obama told you Bain is EVIL, right?

Even though his ad got called out for lying.

But Obama appointed Jeffrey Zeint to head OMB.

Jeffrey Zeint, from Bain.

Bain guy Spending our tax dollars.

True Story.

TRUTH...

Obama can NOT run on his sorry record!!

[I]f you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from." That is what Barack Obama said when he accepted his party's presidential nomination in 2008. Four years later, it reads like a prophetic description of his re-election campaign.
See story in washingtonexaminer.com

Diane what are you talking about? Everyone has gone to sleep, there is no one to back you up right now, think about what you are saying before you hit 'post comment'.

Or post some proof. A video would be nice.

@fiesty, you're always the first one on here and you're very liberal. Do you have a job?

@GT - the "bad times" of 2000-2008? 2000-2007 was probably the greatest era of prosperity this country has ever had. Go peddle your Kool-Aid elsewhere

Right, but you want to believe that Romney was both CEO and major stockholder and retired with no input at the exact same time.

Romney would have you think that just because he made millions and millions of dollars from Bain that he bears no responsibility for anything they did.

When unemployment was 4.9, Governor Romney whined that he couldn't create jobs because the economy was bad. Of course that didn't stop him from outsourcing government call center jobs to India to afford more tax cuts to the rich.

Nothing is ever Romney's fault and he is so, so very honest he won't release his tax returns.

Just imagine if it was President Obama who refuses to release his tax returns, the republicans would be frothing at the mouth trying to out-hate each other towards President Obama.

If you think negative attack ads are unpresidential you must have HATED Bush - because that's how he won 2 elections.

Well, personally, I think Obama should go with that

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-07-23/poll-romney-obama-economy/56439758/1

Buh bye, Obama.

Save America- vote Romney

Don' t you mean - Repeat of the Bush years=Vote for Romney

Vote for Romney to save America, you have got to be joking.

Let me tell you about the republican con job for privatazation they pulled here in Washington. All liquor could only be sold in state liquor stores.

The private stores wanted their share of the profits and paid who know how much to lie to the people over and over in television and internet ads and claimed that liquor would be so much cheaper if voters allowed them to close the state liquor stores and privatize.

Now they won and liquor is more expensive than ever and the stores that lied to us are raking in the money. The good government jobs and retirements are ended and have been replaced with minimum wage jobs.

This is exactly the same as the rich buying our election for the republicans. You can't be too deep of a thinker and think the republicans are doing it for your good.

Just what we need more union thugs to ring up a sale at a cash register. Tough job!!

Says the German ... LOL

Right ON GG!!!

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovels, mount your #$%$ and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."

Nearly 75 years ago, (when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your #$%$, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land."

Today, Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed your #$%$, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!

I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc. I called a Suicide Hotline. I had to press 1 for English. I was connected to a call center in Pakistan. I told them I was suicidal. They got excited and asked if I have a Back Pack!!.

Folks, we're screwed.... OMG====Obama Must GO!!!

Just look at the way the republicans have obstructed any recovery for our economy and then want to blame anyone but themselves.

President Obama's jobs bill couldn't be passed because the small surcharge on a millionaires second million would cause irreparable harm to the job creators said the republicans. Yet these same millionaires have hundreds and hundreds of millions of tax cut dollars not to create jobs but to buy the election for the republicans who have promised them forever tax cuts.

I would have to be pretty dumb to think that the republicans cared about jobs or America.

Exactly jt. Obama is just playing the class warfare game.

Gem,

Hey Darlin'. :) ♥

Hi there CubsFan:) Great to see you on here!

Good to see you too. :) Miss me?

And how! Posting on here just isn't any fun without the hot mercedes around!

Lol! Missed you too. :) Je t'aime.

The Buffet rule, if enacted is projected to raise $50 billion over 10 years. $5 billion per year. That is literally a drop in the bucket of the US debt.

And if the projection is 50 billion, you can bet the actual will be something like 12 billion. The 1% didn't get to be the 1% by sitting around letting the likes of Barack Obama pick their pockets.

We need a real solution. The President is blowing smoke to make us resent Mitt Romney because he's rich. I don't know. Romney is good with money. We need a guy that's good with money.

We need a real solution. You mean like when Clinton was president and raised taxes and paid down the debt. You know when unemployment was low and the rich paid their fair share.

Romney is good at hiding his money in off-shore accounts and not paying his fair share in taxes.

If Romney is so good with money then he should have no problem releasing at least 12 years of tax returns and showing us just how good he is.

When Romney ran for governor he promised he could create jobs and didn't. Now he making promises again that he couldn't keep last time and republicans don't think the American public has the right to vet him because someone told us Romney is good with money.

I think he should release his tax returns when Obozo releases his college transcripts...........that fair enough for you?

Obozo only released 2000-2006, didn't even release 2007 in 2008...but that was ok?

You are exactly right, AF. "...when unemployment was low." That is the key. The rich paying a little bit more, a little bit less is meaningless. Middle class folks need to be working, earning a living, paying taxes and spending on goods and services.

Your guy needed to work on getting people back to work. He chose to work on health care reform which is going to put even more of a strangle hold on the economy.

Case in point is the money being given to the GOP PACS to make sure Romney keeps the status quo... How did so few people accumulate so much money, when the majority of Americans suffered?

The Buffet rule, if enacted is projected to raise $50 billion over 10 years. $5 billion per year. That is literally a drop in the bucket of the US debt.

Well, a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up to serious money...

And if the projection is 50 billion, you can bet the actual will be something like 12 billion. The 1% didn't get to be the 1% by sitting around letting the likes of Barack Obama pick their pockets.

So Mitt proposes giving the 1% an even bigger tax break, so instead of a "mere 12 billion" in additional revenue, the revenue will drop by billions, instead. How is that going to reduce the debt? Oh, that's right, it means MORE debt, not less.

We need a real solution. The President is blowing smoke to make us resent Mitt Romney because he's rich. I don't know. Romney is good with money. We need a guy that's good with money.

So what is Mitt's proposal, then? Increase taxes on the working poor, as there are soo many of them? Starve the poor, so the rich can have more caviar?

Mitt is very good with HIS money, but his record at Bain makes it clear that he doesn't care at all for the working class, their jobs, or their pensions. He never cared about their money, only his.

Ok, throw out that standard old Teapublican "class warfare" accusation, you always do. But remember what happened the last time real "class warfare" actually broke out - the wealthy Aristocracy lost their heads...

jt1776-3689881 -- Spite or envy, really?

The rich need to pay more because;1) government programs are very important for society, 2) more equality makes a better society and democracy, and 3) corruption is reduced when loopholes are reduced.

Speaking of which, $700 billion dollars of lost revenue due to money in the Cayman Islands alone is on par with the stimulus.

Momma Dukes -- A better suggestion would be for you to attend Harvard and graduate magna cum laude before you post BS about the president's transcripts.

Because with lower taxes, they invest more money in our economy and create more jobs.

I have seen the rich invest in buying the election for the republicans with all that tax cut money. I haven't seen the jobs or the more invested money in our economy yet.

Even republicans don't believe that tax cuts create jobs, because if they did they would not be cheering the bad jobs reports because they prove beyond any shadow of doubt that the tax cuts don't create jobs.

The real kick in the gut is that these tax cuts have not created any jobs.

But the republicans would ask children to starve and veterans to do without care and grandma to give up her medicare for more of these tax cuts for the rich that after 13 years have created no jobs.

Romney would cut taxes for the rich? Tell me what's wrong with that. Bush cut taxes for the rich, and the rich ended up paying more than 100 billion dollars MORE in taxes in 2006 than they did in 2001.

Not only is that a big lie, it is such an obviously false lie one wonders why you'd bother telling it. We went from running a surplus under Clinton to running record deficits AFTER the Bush tax cuts - because revenues went DOWN, not up. It's like thinking your income would increase if you insisted that your boss cut your wages - because the company would grow of course... (or the boss would just increase his own salary...)

Why? Because with lower taxes, they invest more money in our economy and create more jobs.

Except they didn't "invest in our economy", they didn't invest in job creating businesses, that's why the economy faltered and unemployment soared during the Bush years. The historical evidence is clear to everyone except the terminally clueless and those who just don't want to see it.

The reason why that conservative "trickle down" theory utterly failed is simple. Reduction in tax revenue lead to deficits that were funded by sales of Treasury Bonds, which in turn were bought up by wealthy investors with the extra money resulting from their tax cuts. After all, buying up the National Debt was a no-risk tax free investment, unlike investing in a business that could fail. Result - rich investors do great, but the economy fails and the rest of us suffer.

The solution is simple. Increase tax rates and improve Government efficiency sufficient to eliminate deficits and start paying down the National debt. That means Treasury bills would not be issued, which in turn forces investors to invest in job creating businesses instead - riskier, but ultimately better for the economy.

ah, give me government control of everything in my life. It's so much easier than making decisions for myself, or actually having to WORK for anything.

Do you mean like the government being in charge of women's reproductive rights. Romney has signed the person-hood pledge that promises to take your rights to contraception away from you. Can't have women making their own decisions when we have republican men who can do so much better of a job.

The republicans favorite lie. That only republicans work. If we liberals worked we would be just as stingy as the republicans.

President Obama is fighting to raise his own taxes for the good of all Americans and you want to make him out as the bad guy.

I own my own home, I work and pay taxes. I just voted a couple months ago to increase the taxes on my home to pay for better schools.

I would feel like the ugly American if I took a tax cut that would take food out of the mouth of children like Romney and the republicans are pushing for.

Either the government controls everything in your life from birth, if you're actually allowed to be born, to death, decided when the "Secretary" decides that your care is too costly based on your age and condition.

Before the PP/ACA (Obamacare), the health insurance companies had people that would decide if your care was "too costly" for corporate profits, but they didn't call those people "Secretary", they usually had an executive title.

Or maybe you actually want the FREE CHOICE as to whether you actually want to buy health insurance and what kind you want, instead of the government hammering you with a "penalty" if what you get does't meet some idiot in Washington's "standard".

Funny thing is, that "buy health insurance -or else" idea came from the conservative Heritage Foundation, and was eagerly embraced by Governor Romney for Massachusetts. Romney even thought it would be a great plan for the Federal Government to implement - until it actually was implemented by a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President. Then, of course, the Republicans had to turn against their own idea and lambaste it as some sort of horrible evil commie thing.

Maybe you actually do not want to pay more and higher taxes, and have the highest tax in the history of this nation dropped on the middle class to pay for health insurance that others REFUSE to purchase.

You're wildly off on "highest tax in the history of this nation", the highest tax rate ever was back in the early '50s when the top tax rate hit 90%. Nobody in their right mind is proposing anything even half that rate, not even for billionaires.

Romney's program is more tax cuts for the wealthy, and "tax balancing" for everyone else - a euphemism for tax increases on the working class and poor. It isn't Obama that has called for tax increases on the middle class, it's the "tax balancing" Romney plan that does that trick.

When Romney couldn't create jobs while governor, he whined how it wasn't his fault it was the fault of the bad economy. You have to remember unemployment was at 4.9 at the time, such an awful economy to have to struggle and create jobs.

But now the economy is almost twice as bad as the one he couldn't create jobs in before.

Why are we to believe Romney knows what he is doing now? Listen to Romney's old speeches when he was running for governor, he is making the same jobs promises today he couldn't keep when he was governor and outsourced government jobs to India.

Bush got it done?

Yeah he got it done, if "IT is almost devistating the WORLD ECONOMY!

Hey Momma - More BS from Rush.

Well, Bush managed to double the National Debt in his 8 years, in spite of inheriting a surplus from his predecessor. Obama inherited a massive debt, huge deficits, a faltering economy - and his first year was under the final budget that Bush signed off on.

The Bush tax cuts are still in effect, so a major cause for continuing record deficits is still in effect. Obama wants the wealthiest to pay the same tax rates that they paid under Clinton (when the economy boomed), but Romney wants even lower tax rates for the wealthy, which will result in even less tax revenue thus bigger deficits than even the Bush tax cuts could cause.

Obama's plan would increase tax revenues thus reduce deficits. Romney's plan would mean much less tax revenues (unless he increases taxes on the working class) thus dramatically increase deficits.

Another indicator of this reversal in the income and tax shares of the top 1 percent is that, as in 2008, the top 1 percent no longer pays a larger percentage of total income tax than the bottom 95 percent.

This trend was exacerbated by the aforementioned precipitous drop in AGI in 2009. During 2009, the bottom 95 percent (AGI under $154,643) paid 41.3 percent of the total collected, a larger share than the 36.7 percent paid by the top 1 percent (AGI over $343,947).

Where was Obama on D-Day in 2011? On the fields of Normandy, which I do believe played a historic role. He was there to honor those who lost their lives there. He marked the historic event in an honorable way, but of course could not be in two places thousands of miles apart at the same time.

One more reason to get this incompetent out. And get a trusted honest business man in there.

Your jealousy is obvious.

The ads going after Romeny for supporting the Ryan plan to change medicare to a voucher system haven't even started. Throw grandma from the train so the wealthy will have their precious tax cuts (even while enjoying their lowest rates in 30 years). More money for Mitt and his buddies to send overseas! If the wealthy were patriotic and invested their money in American, we might have a different conversation. But they mostly invest in other countries. Talk about unpatriotic. Why oh why should we worship the wealthy again? Or should we be cursing those who send their money overseas?

Poor people don't start businesses, period. People who are on welfare and food stamps don't start businesses. Something has to be done about Medicare because it never had enough funds to pay the costs of health care today and while the affordable care act helped a small percentage of americans it didn't do what it needed to do, address the cost of health care for ALL Americans.

I find it interesting that Romney is visiting three socialistic countries on his trip abroad. Plus he lived for several years (while dodging the draft) in France. Wonder how many pics there are of Romney wearing a beret? Romney wants to practice socialism, but he will redistribute the wealth of the middle class to the wealthy.