It's very nice to see each of the two candidates showing that there is a time and place for everything. Today is not the time for campaigning in the light of this tragic event.

My condolences to the families who lost loved ones and to the survivors who lived through this horrific event.

Ben Wayne

Mere words are inadequate to quantify your comment and you should be banned for life.

You are obviously crude, inarticulate, uncaring and illiterate. Your comments have no worth.

I think you should take your own advice, get off the vine and get a job.

Oh, and don't come back.

Elliot,

Now is not the time. Grow up.

and then ignorant jerks like Ben Wayne appear. Put down the hate mantras for one day. Let the nation grieve for those innocent victims. I don't ever vote to collapse posts, but in this case, #1.3 is the exception.

Look everyone. The Red Communist slunt is trying to be civil.

And we wonder why, with posters like this, events in Colorado unfold. Vote this rereg poster as inflammatory and lobby newsvine to ban the account.

Applause to both presidential candidates in keeping politics off the table today.

Feisty - Our President shows again the values we should all aspire to have and his is absolutely right. My heart breaks for the families of those killed or injured in Colorado. When does all of this nonsense end?

ben wayne and elliot - you have shown what total lowlifes you are. Nothing more can be said about filth like you.

While I don't usually agree with Feisty and am in total agreement on this matter. Those who post ignorant comments with regard to this tragedy are not Republicans or Democrats.....they are pathetic losers with no sense of dignity or compassion.

Amen, FR.

elliot --

Turns out this guy is probably a registered Democrat; they are such caring and kind folk, until you disagree with them then they go all Jared Loughner on you.

Ah, yes, perhaps.

And maybe he just registered Democrat to phony up votes, like they do in Wisconsin. But don't forget that it was conservatives that gave him the guns.

After all, the only common denominator in gun crimes IS guns.

How about the media take a lesson from this and not over-sensationalize the story....and leave the victims families alone at least til funerals are over. Report proven facts also and not hearsay. I know, dream on.

Those who post ignorant comments with regard to this tragedy are not Republicans or Democrats.....they are pathetic losers with no sense of dignity or compassion.

Any regular on this board knows perhaps no one leans further left than I do.

Having said that, today I am not a Democrat... I am an American first & foremost!

This isn't about party - it's about humanity...

I think everyone should give it a try...

Feisty - I can't believe we are facing yet another mass murder and people can't bother to at least take a day and wish peace for those involved. President Obama has shown how a real American behaves.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Correction;

Today we should all be taking a moment to reflect just how precious and fragile our time here on earth is!

Will someone toss the FR Gremlins a bone?

I couldn't have said it better. The bone I have for the Gremlins is-- "it's not the quality of life but the quality". I have always tried to live by the philosophy of being the best that I can be and to help my fellow neighbor to the best of my ability.

My thoughts go out to the families. May they find comfort in their time of great need.

it not the quality of life but the quality". I have always tried to live by the philosophy of being the best that I can be and to help my fellow neighbor to the best of my ability.

Beautiful Bev... simply beautiful...

I can't believe we are facing yet another mass murder and people can't bother to at least take a day and wish peace for those involved. President Obama has shown how a real American behaves.

Sad isn't it, Seeking?

I thought their response after the Gabby Giffords shooting was hideous - I see they have manged to take it up a notch or two...

SHOUT OUT - to those above who don't ever agree with me, for taking the high-road today & putting country above party!

My thoughts and prayers are with the family's of this tragic event.

Thoughts and prayers for all those who have been impacted by this senseless violence.

Good morning Feisty and to all the regulars on FR.

Today, we share a moment to send our condolences to the families of those injured or killed during the tragic events in CO last night.

Good morning SeekingSanity,

I'm so glad the weather has cooled off.

Feisty - Our President shows again the values we should all aspire to have and his is absolutely right. My heart breaks for the families of those killed or injured in Colorado. When does all of this nonsense end?

Soon I hope. I don't want to point fingers until I know the cause of this horrendous act.

ben wayne and elliot - you have shown what total lowlifes you are. Nothing more can be said about filth like you

I'd say they need help!!!!

FIRST READ

You need to ban Ben Wayne. He comments have no value and he's violated several of the COH rules.

Please address this issue.

ben wayne - you registered your account on 7/18. How many accounts do you have? Why don't you have the balls to stick with one?

It kills me how these people keep registering under different names to make themselves look like a crowd.

You need to ban Ben Wayne. He comments have no value and he's violated several of the COH rules.

They will get him Skip - he is also a re-reg!

It kills me how these people keep registering under different names to make themselves look like a crowd.

Bayllie,

No one ever said they are the sharpest tools in the shed!

Feisty,

This isn't about party - it's about humanity...

I think everyone should give it a try...

Well said, and so true.

I would like to offer my condolences to the family's and friends, and for the little six year old, who has been robbed a chance to experience life.

Please just ignore these trolls. They thrive on the negative attention.

theotas - I read a 6 year old was injured - did not know they died. How unbelievably tragic and how totally useless. This has to stop.

@ elliott --

You're quoting BREITBART and trying to use it show that Stephanopoulos is left-biased (he's not)?

As Albany might say ....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

waaaaaaaa waaaaaaa, give it up skip

Res ipsa loquitur.

On First Thoughts, TNSEVOL pointed out that one of my comments was out of line. TNSEVOL was correct, and I am ashamed of what I wrote and submitted.

Feisty,

No one ever said they are the sharpest tools in the shed!

here is another one - registered yesterday:

MaoObamaIsDung

they are getting worse; it's like the leak from a sewer pipe is getting bigger and the $hit is spreading everywhere.

Politics takes a back seat today.

Too bad the ugly and toxic comments from both sides can not

stop for one day.

Moment of silence.

1st time I ever agreed with the usual first poster on this site! please put aside the politics and personal attacks today. This is a day to morn the senseless loss of so many!

@ Elliott --

I wasn't speaking to the substance, Elliott - just to the proposition that you would use Breitbart as a source and claim that Stephanopoulos was biased.

After all, what was Breitbart's first reaction?

It was immediately to try to disprove a tea party connection.

I wonder why he was so worried about it.

After all, I doubt that any tea party members even carry guns, don't you?

Only liberals are gun nuts.

Sandy --

Politics takes a back seat today.

Au contraire. Both sides are wrong. It's the politics of guns that did this.

And both sides need to own up to it.

What better day to do it?

Hey Red, Keep your chin up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's all be as civilized and human as possible today & ignore the nasty comments designed to bait us into argument. Please? Children were killed.

Anna Molly... Res ipsa loquitur....I love it... :)

@ capecodmom --

To ignore the politics of this today, is to ignore the politics of this every day.

And both sides are equally to blame -- the left if only because it has acquiesced too often to the gun lobby. Both sides want to ignore it because both sides are too guilty to confront it.

Tomorrow, it will be yesterday's news.

@ NinjaCodeMan --

A man of discernment.

Noscitur a sociis.

elliot - if Rush gets hit by a car we'll respond then. Today we are talking about 12 innocent people who were gunned down. Try to be civil and understand how horrible this must be for their families. You might actually find that having compassion is a good thing.

AnnaMolly - I apologize if it sounded like I was lecturing. I didn't say anything about politics, though. I was simply suggesting we not "feed the trolls" today. I can't even bear to read some of these awful comments & I'm hoping if no one responds to them, they'll go away.

capecodmom --

I do get preachy on this point, and if that offended you, I apologize. I get upset when both sides -- and I have consistently included the President in this group -- try to look the other way at these events and hope they will just disappear off the news cycle.

As for the trolls, they won't.

And, neither will the gun lobby.

elliot-3020456

This feigned compassion is funny. If Rush got hit by a car every one of you leftists would be on here cheering.

elliot nothing is feigned; our hearts do go out the dead and injured.

I will take exception to your bite and be very honest. It would be very difficult personally for me to find any compassion for Rush. In fact, I think this country would be a lot better off without his nonsense.

when treyvon was killed it was/is highly political.

even the prez came out with his famous "if i had a son he would look like treyvon."

so a bunch of white people are killed and its not political?

couldnt the shooter be a black, white guy with a great great great aunt that was 1/2 mexican and 1/4 cherokee and 1/4 eskimo??

couldnt the media FIND a way to politicize this?

i just find it very odd, and very 2 faced to make one shooting a political and racial bonanza, and anothe one a day of reflection.

can someone explain this?

not that i dont disagree with it, but its too strange.

Do the math:

One gunman, 12 dead, 50 wounded, hundreds frightened, thousands more who will question ever going to a movie premier for fear of copycats.

Is it worth it ?

Has NRA made a statement yet?

some very angry and uncivilized postings...until we change our nature we can't change the outcome....

ben wayne --- #1.3 man, you are one classy guy. herr hitler hated just like you. welcome to the club.

Condolences to all the victims and their families was all I wanted to express today but,unfortunately,one poster in particular has made that impossible.

I'm talking to you Ben Wayne,you pathetic,loathsome slug.

The shooter and murderer in this senseless tragedy is a complete waste of human life who,hopefully,will not be infesting this planet sooner than later.

But as big a coward as someone who shoots up a theater full of unarmed people is he still has more courage than an Internet pussy like yourself Ben.

"The liberal media already jumped all over this trying to claim it was a tea party guy."

Except that after they found someone in Aurora CO with the same name posting on a TP site, and commented that they would "keep checking it", they then posted this: "An earlier ABC News broadcast report suggested that a Jim Holmes of a Colorado Tea Party organization might be the suspect, but that report was incorrect. ABC News and Brian Ross apologize for the mistake, and for disseminating that information before it was properly vetted."

So did Breitbart ever apologize for the doctored ACORN videos and the edited Shirley Sherrod speech? Just wondering.

I just flushed something in my toilet that looks like elliot.

Could everybody here just stop for a second? Just a second. All that I have read here for the last 10 minutes is people spitting and throwing eggs at each other. We are forgetting the point.

People are dead. NBC.com should set aside a page for these victims where no comments are allowed. No comments. Period.

Just a page of silence where everyone here will have to shut the #@&! up for five minutes and pray for these people and their families.

...............................................

May their souls rest in peace.

@Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

" ...Any regular on this board knows perhaps no one leans further left than I do. Having said that, today I am not a Democrat... I am an American first & foremost! This isn't about party - it's about humanity... I think everyone should give it a try..."

Feisty, I know what you mean to say, and I concur. But I have a little different take on your observation if I may.......

I wonder why we can't be "Americans first" EVERY day. Why do we need a national tragedy or a horrific, violent event to make us remember all too briefly that we are "Americans first", citizens of one world, and members of one race; the Human race?

Isn't the underlying reason why absolutely nothing in the interest of our nation and the American people has been accomplished in the US Congress (and in Washington DC in general) for the past decade or more because THEY, our elected "leaders" have forgotten that they are supposed to be "Americans first"?

I know it's a lot to ask, but maybe we should all begin to challenge ourselves to tone-down the rhetoric EVERY day.

We know we're not going to get civility from the petulant children who walk the halls of Capitol Hill, ... but why can't WE serve as EXAMPLES of what we expect for our country?

The silly game we see played-out on these discussion threads, of trying to collapse the comments of those with whom we disagree (trying to silence them) is not the American way.

How can any of us assert on these discussion threads our own individual patriotism, and our individual belief in the American Constitutional protections of the Bill of Rights at the same time we are trying to collapse (silence) the comments of those who have different points of view?

That's downright "un-American", folks. Everyone, let's let the moderators take care of the worst abuses of rhetoric on these threads. Respond to posts when you disagree. Take issue with statements you consider inaccurate. Try to do it in a thoughtful, intelligent and civil way. But don't try to silence others. Knock it off! Grow up! Remember we are "Americans first"!

Try to remember the old American saying "While I disagree with your opinion, I will defend your right to express it."

Civility starts here, folks. Let's not forget that vitriol and incivility feeds vitriol and incivility. And some of our fellow citizens are not content with verbal responses but are fueled by the divisiveness to take independent and sometimes violent action!

Come on folks, let's act like adults. Let's tone down the rhetoric. Let's tone down OUR OWN rhetoric.

Let's remember EVERY day that we are "Americans first" and that we are all members of the "Human race."

Let's try to reach deep down inside ourselves and find our humanity EVERY day; not just during times of tragedy and reflection.

AK SABIN...

I think you meant to say “Right Wing Nut Job”!!! those on the left are anti- gun and anti-violence, we are generally better educated and tend to look for peaceful discourse ….you don’t find people on the left attending rallies carrying assault weapons and side arms carrying signs promoting a 2nd amendment solution to government, you don’t see people on the left bombing Planned Parenthood clinics or murdering their doctors because a fox news personality told them to do so, you don’t see those on the left advocating hatred or intolerance, you don’t see those on the left taking these senseless acts and using them to promote even less restrictive gun laws… these are definitely Right wing traits so maybe you need to be taking a long hard look at your litter!!!

FORGET THE SOCIOPOLITICAL PLATFORM!

Forget the labels of red, yellow, brown, black, white, bi, gay, straight, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, and whatever else we like to label ourselves and each other as. Those are intangibles, and irrelevant.

The simple fact here today is that people died who didn't have to. People who were minding their own business going out to see one of the most-anticipated move debuts of the year and were gunned down, had their lives end horribly, tragically, for no apparent purpose that we can see. If you have a Deity that you believe in, ask that Deity for strength, ask that Deity to help those injured, the children most of all; ask that they be healed quickly, body, mind and spirit. Step outside of yourself and your life for once and give your most sincere prayers/thoughts/wishes to the victims of this tragedy.

The person who did this is as much a victim as anyone else, the victim of a twisted mind and skewed logic that made this senseless act make sense to him. He is to be pitied; if you believe in a Deity, ask that Deity for wisdom, for tolerance, for patience and forgiveness. The person who can commit this kind of outrage is truly ill.

His family is as much a victim as those shot; they too are shocked, stunned, horrified at this senseless act of violence. Keep them in mind as well, for he was their son, their brother, cousin, nephew, maybe uncle. He was once an innocent, as the children he shot were innocent.

Keep those victims in mind; for the ones that died, hope that their passing was quick and they did not suffer. Hope that their families ill be able to celebrate the lives they lived, however long or short; that they can remember their loved ones as they were, instead of as they are. For the victims still alive, hope for a speedy recovery, for full recovery in body, mind and spirit; hope that they will not succumb to their injuries.

And lastly, hope for yourselves, your fellow man, and your nation. Never forget the horror and tragedy of this day; remember that we are all human and we are all united in shock and horror and sadness in this one moment, and remember the unity in days to come as more details of the lives ruined bring their humanity before our eyes.

There will be plenty of time, in the days to come, to point fingers, assign blame, claim that it was this political faction or that political faction, that this was not done right, that that did not happen. For now, let us simply unite our voices in a single call for support, sympathy; support those who will need healing, and send good wishes after those who left us last night.

It is a sad day. I mourn for the loss of those who left and for those who are left, hollow and weeping, without understanding, and without reason. Those who will live, will live always, if they are fortunate, just ahead, but within reach, of the horror of today. Human beings must find, and move to the place that holds the peace and safety of high and common affinity. A place that does not allow individual differences to fracture the greater bond of the collective, shared singularity of brotherhood. Sigh, we have a way yet to travel, if we are to ever get there. I hope we will. I so hope we will.

My deepest condolences to the victims and their families. President Obama said it best: "Ultimately it is how we choose to treat one another and how we love one another."

Well said, Mac.

You could have saved yourself a lot of time typing, Arch, if you simply wrote, "I'm a bottom feeder."

It would have saved a lot of bandwidth and it would have been a lot more accurate.

@ArchStanton#1.72: The light of truth always reveals the unlit candle of the fool who broods in his own darkness. .......sigh.........

Just as you can't, Zathrose. A bad character always reveals itself in a person like a bad stench.

It's a bit hypocritcal that yesterday, with a similar news story yesterday "First Read: Politicates takes a backseat," Feisty posted six obnoxious political messages in two hours, but today she's leading the charge for MSNBC with her typical planted "First Post" trying to come off as a temperate voice of reason.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12855483-first-thoughts-politics-takes-a-back-seat?threadId=3523299&commentId=68180398

I'll report, you decide. Check posts 1.1, 1.18, 1.22, 1.36, 1.50, 1.71

Guess her new supervisor from NBC News call her in on the carpet and told her to knock off the political spin today.

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Nope, I meant left-wing nut job, just like the OWS member who fired on the white house not too long ago...but you with short-term memory affliction (and selective) will disregard that as well. Ask yourself, " How does a 24 y.o. unemployed, bankrupt, failing college student acquire over $20k in weapons and sophisticated tactical gear?' Go ahead and collapse, I know how fond you are of the right to free speach.

James E. Holmes. Proud member of Occupy San Diego. Although OWS leaders claim this is not the same "James" that shot up the movie theater in Colorado, they have no proof to the contrary. Just like when one of the Occupy D.C. protesters opened fire on the White House and was subsequently arrested.

"Reports by a Florida private investigator connect the Aurora Colorado shooter with Occupy San Diego. The motivation for the shooting appears to be the negative portrayal of the Occupy Wall Street movement. There are conflicting reports about this but it fits with our coverage of the plot of the movie. The shooter is being called a "black block" member of occupy who felt the movement was not radical enough."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=411853565518478&set=a.214377938599376.46878.214020071968496&type=1

Hey ben wayne, how many accounts do you have ???????????

""Reports by a Florida private investigator connect the Aurora Colorado shooter with Occupy San Diego. The motivation for the shooting appears to be the negative portrayal of the Occupy Wall Street movement. There are conflicting reports about this but it fits with our coverage of the plot of the movie. The shooter is being called a "black block" member of occupy who felt the movement was not radical enough."

Oh, yeah, if it's on Facebook, it's gotta be true, right? /sarc/ Hopefully the members of Occupy will demand an apology and storm the internet when this is demonstrated to be false. Just like the TPers did when a GMA reporter found someone by the same name on an Aurora CO TP site. Seriously, a FLORIDA private investigator found evidence about someone in CA and CO when the authorities hadn't? Really???

DrDrGimmetheNews

Hopefully the members of Occupy will demand an apology and storm the internet when this is demonstrated to be false

where is elliot-3020456 criticizing AK Sabin for posting outragous accusations?

Hey elliot, here is your chance to show you are not biased and your only objective is the truth!

From President Obama's remarks on the Colorado shooting:

"…Now, even as we learn how this happened and who's responsible, we may never understand what leads anybody to terrorize their fellow human beings like this. Such violence, such evil is senseless. It's beyond reason. But while we will never know fully what causes somebody to take the life of another, we do know what makes life worth living. The people we lost in Aurora loved and they were loved. They were mothers and fathers; they were husbands and wives; sisters and brothers; sons and daughters, friends and neighbors. They had hopes for the future and they had dreams that were not yet fulfilled.

So what I’d ask everybody to do, I’d like us to pause in a moment of silence for the victims of this terrible tragedy, for the people who knew them and loved them, for those who are still struggling to recover, and for all the victims of less publicized acts of violence that plague our communities every single day. So if everybody can just take a moment.

Okay…now if you'll excuse me I have to go authorize some more drone strikes that have killed hundreds of innocent civilians including women and children in some of the poorest regions of the world *. Then I'm having a great dinner and watching a movie in the White House screening room with my kids. Thank you and God Bless America."

* Wikipeia: Based on extensive research, the Bureau of Investigative Journalismfound that between 391 – 780 civilians were killed out of a total of between 1,658 and 2,597 and that 160 children are reported among the deaths. The Bureau also revealed that since President Obama took office at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan

That's right Sailxat and we can all smell you and Obama from 1200 miles away

MARK L-464288

The lives of children were just lost and the only thing you say is "maybe today Obama would best spend his time on another round of golf. You are a sick human being. I just hope GOD have mercy on you when your time comes!

JoBaby-

Overreact lately?

Yep the CCC are a bunch of paid trolls. Most of whom I ignored anyway. Can't argue with the habitually stupid.

That said let's not politicize this topic anymore than need be. It's not the time nor the place and congrats to Romney and Obama for stepping down a day.

MARK L-464288

I'm not going there with you. You are on your own - HELL BOUND! Your kind is beneath me!

ah america!.....what a wonderful country!!!!....we need some hope and change......hope that the people who are victims of this crime find peace someday and change in the white house........

Mark L & mcpaddywack - two of a kind - just not the kind anyone wants to be near.

Mourning Colorado victims and their families, my prayers go out to them !!!

JoBaby-

Overreact lately?

Mark...Douchebag lately?

I'm not going there with you. You are on your own - HELL BOUND! Your kind is beneath me!

That's awesome! I'm sorry, I had no idea I had offended someone of such stature in this world with such a "HELL BOUND" golf comment...

Mark and paddywack.... I wish you were here in front of me so i could shove your teeth down your own throats. have you no shame? The folks who lost their lives in Aurora deserve much more than your partisan rhetoric. Your parents failed you, us and the american people by raising such morons.

F U Pieces of SH***t

Go McPaddywack yourself clown. You and idiots like Rwing and Mark L are the reason the GOP is going down for good. What a bunch of low life backwoods losers. Obama and Romney showed remorse for what happened in Colorado, but you morons just can't keep your lying scum-sucking teabagging mouths shut for one day.

Eric, I never made any comments that degraded the situation in Colorado, but I did about Obama...But I can see how you jumped to that conclusion seeing that you are an in the pocket liberal Oregonian...

notliborcon,

I wish you were here in front of me so i could shove your teeth down your own throats. have you no shame? The folks who lost their lives in Aurora deserve much more than your partisan rhetoric. Your parents failed you, us and the american people by raising such morons.

F U Pieces of SH***t

I'm sorry who's parents failed? Who here is the cyber-bully?

Another left-wing nut job strikes again. This guy was an OWS tool who obviously wanted to strike out using the Bane methodology as depicted in the film. He was $90k in the hole with student loans and failing...badly. So, all the rest of you left-whinners out there, take a good look at your spawn.

rwing you hate fox so much because it actually tells the truth.

Yes your just another good example of the right wing telling lies. Your post says it all. Keep talking your doing the right a lot of good. Thank You.

Obama-Biden 2012

Could AK possibly make a less relevant, hateful, and pointless remark? Is there no depth too low in the cesspool for such a bottom feeder to sink?

This is a day of national mourning and your offensive post says far more about you than it does about anything else. Shame.

Obama lies,,, Romney tries

. society stagnates when independent productive achievers are socially demonized and even punished for their accomplishments... Society's most productive citizens refuse to be exploited by increasing taxation and government regulations and go on strike by disappearing [and dropping out of everyday society]."

Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin repudiated his U.S. citizenship right before Facebook's much anticipated IPO this month. While Saverin had already been living in Singapore, dropping his U.S. citizenship allowed him to escape millions of dollars in capital gains taxes that his higher-valued Facebook shares would eventually trigger.

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Government numbers, according to Bloomberg, show "a record 1,780 gave up their U.S. passports last year compared with 235 in 2008."

…NObama 2012!!!!!!

A Brazilian living in Singapore gives up his status as a naturalized US citizen to escape taxes from a place he hasn't lived for years. OMG, say it isn't so.

When David and Charles Koch renounce their citizenship, THAT will be news. The Conservative myth of confiscatory taxation is disproven immediately by the fact that living here hasn't prevented them from rapidly increasing their fortunes.

Same thing is true of the rest of the top 1%, and especially the top 0.1% who are seeking tax treatment even more favorable than what they already have.

Mark L... Not cyber bullying you but simply stating my opinion that you are an ass who can't see human suffering past partisan politics. This tragedy had NOTHING to do with POTUS or politics but you simply could not resist taking a poke at Obama.

Well said Grimey.

President Obama: “If there's anything to take away from this tragedy it's the reminder that life is very fragile. Our time here is limited and precious.”

I tried to say kind of the same thing on First Thoughts this morning before I'd even read about this tragedy. Our time here is very limited and very precious - far too precious to waste it on meaningless insults and attacks on people we don't even know, especially over the often very trivial issues we spend so much time arguing about. As Grimey says, there's still plenty of time for that, and we can start all over again tomorrow. But for today, we owe it to the victims, to their friends and families, to the first responders to the scene, and even to ourselves to let our better angels rule the day. Instead of insulting perfect strangers the rest of the day, perhaps we should all reach out to someone we do know and tell them how much they mean to us while we still can. "Our time here is limited and precious".

I just heard the President say he and First Lady have the comfort of hugging their daughters tonight the families in Colorado won't. (paraphasing)

That broke my heart. I am in tear mode now. I am not looking for sympathy; but in October it will be a year since I lost my beautiful, young daughter I'm sure there are so many others here who lost a loved one or ones too. Let's think of the heartbreak these families are going through rather than hurling insensitivity.

I can be thankful I have a 9 year old great-grandson whom I love with all my heart to love and hug when he comes over.

Life is precious ya'll. Let's appreciate it today.

Thank You Mr. President for being a compassionate Leader.

Thank You Mr. Romney for following suit

@ Feisty

Beautiful Bev... simply beautiful...

Kudos; Love ya; GF

Beautifully said, Bev. Give that special little guy an extra hug for me when you see him.

Bev - hug him extra tight. I had no idea you lost your daughter but she left you a wonderful memory in her son.

Kudos; Love ya; GF

♥ U too Bev!

You know all you have to do is call my name, and I'll come running from where ever I am...

JoAnne in PA

Beautifully said, Bev. Give that special little guy an extra hug for me when you see him.

Thank you JoAnne in PA

I will. I miss him so much he is visiting relatives on his dad's side in Milwaukee. You can believe when he comes home I will give that extra hug.

Also, he was born the same day as President Obama. He loves both batman and President Obama. He'd better come home soon. I have plans for him.

Thank you again, JoAnne you have lifted my spirits and comforted me.

SeekingSanity

Bev - hug him extra tight. I had no idea you lost your daughter but she left you a wonderful memory in her son.

Thank you SeekingSanity, I will. I'm not sure if you posting here at the times. All my friends here were very, very, kind to me during that time.

@Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

♥ U too Bev!

You know all you have to do is call my name, and I'll come running from where ever I am..

If you have time SeekingSanity, we 3 Chicagoans can all go.

To BEV:

words fail when you hear about a parent losing a child. Does not mean you don't share your heart. I wish you on this difficult day.

Thoughts and prayers to the love ones lost, and the ones left behind! I wish we could have this respectful, kind, courteous discourse on this thread everyday!! Maybe we could bring about real change!!

bev in chicago --- i wish you comfort. having a child die has got to be the worst thing i can think of. it is unnatural because we all would rather die before our children do. again i wish you comfort and the best of everything.

My problem is that Romney came out publicly first however MSNBC's headline is that Obama says there will be other days for politics. I agree with both men but unfortunately MSNBC has to show it as one-sided.

Personally, I would be fine with them taking off 5 months of campaigning.

Once again Rwingnut, this article is not about OUR President or abortion. Your ignorant thick scull may be fragile, but I'd like to give it a whack right about now, A$$clown.

Hi Eric :)

Don't let the gop opratives redirect the discussion away from what it really is about. Ignore their middle school boy tactics and always restate the real topic to bring it back on track. Drives them nuz :)

Watch the Dems give it to the GOP, properly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ9e3Dy7obA

Republicans, yuck. American doesn't need 'em. Saddle up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpZjvbSC9_M

Glad your a strong woman and see these nuts for what they are - pathetic!

These amatures are a dime a dozen these days! ;o)

Can one of you people who have the ear of Tyler or any of the other mods, have them pop Bens Address and disable his account. I know you can do it! This is a day to be one as Americans and pass those thoughts and feelings to those who have lost loved ones.

ben wayne --- you sure have a hard on against the world today! have a beer and chill out before you grab a gun and do something that you will be sorry for.

this isn't Nazi Germany and you cant silence the truth.

For the very same reason, we don't need to take your bullsh*t.

Go see a therapist, you troubled freak.

Border Joe, move on. today is not the day for this kind of rhetoric. Today is about those in our country who have lost loved ones Thu this senseless act of horror. Let those of us who comment here, today, remember most of the time we talk about politics. Today is about loss of life. Show some common decency and keep your vile and unnecessary comments and opinions to yourself. Tomorrow is another Day.

@fiesty redhead, I knew you wouldn't be able to post today with out putting someone else down. So much for taking a break from your normal hateful self. Today, however, you do not deserve any attention so STFU.

I sincerely feel sorrow for the families of the victims. I hope they are able to find peace again some day soon.

And what are you saying but meaningless sh*t, even Obama and Romney can put away their differences for a day or so after a tragedy, I hope you have at least one redeeming quality that isn't coming through and stop seeing others the way you see yourself when you look in the mirror.

mhrjhn: Agreed. I was pleased that both Governor Romney and President Obama cancelled events and agreed not to air ads in Colorado.

I wish all of our politicians behaved in such a reserved manner. Unfortunately, Mayor Bloomberg chose to bring up gun control. And, Rep. Gohmert decided to weigh in several issues, as well.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) said Friday that the shootings that took place in an Aurora, Colo. movie theater hours earlier were a result of "ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs" and questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter.

During a radio interview on The Heritage Foundation's "Istook Live!" show, Gohmert was asked why he believes such senseless acts of violence take place. Gohmert responded by talking about the weakening of Christian values in the country.

"Some of us happen to believe that when our founders talked about guarding our virtue and freedom, that that was important," he said. "Whether it's John Adams saying our Constitution was made only for moral and religious people ... Ben Franklin, only a virtuous people are capable of freedom, as nations become corrupt and vicious they have more need of masters. We have been at war with the very pillars, the very foundation of this country."

"You know what really gets me, as a Christian, is to see the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and then some senseless crazy act of a derelict takes place."

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12856827-how-not-to-respond-to-a-tragedy

Hey JoBless1 - cross yourself off. Your comments do nothing to help anyone.

At least post a grocery ad or something to make your posts useful.

mrjhn, did you hear the whistling and stomping, and yelling when Obama read from the teleprompter? That crowd took it as a campaign speech. This president is always campaigning, even at funerals. He cannot help himself.

That's because, these morons on the blog sites are not really here to show love or sympathy. They are here today to do what the come everyday to do..... spread hate and discord. They feel that noone's opinions matters but theirs. And since most of us have decided to put politics aside in respect for the lost and injured... they'd rather show how hateful and different they are from the rest of us. Its so sad, because to me, its only another outlet for sad, crazy, violent and hateful people that the killer must have been.

george, just like Obama! Spread hate at every moment.

george, just like Obama! Spread hate at every moment.

Sorry, I don't feed trolls. Go back to your hole.

Adding rebelwcause added to the ignore white trash list.

Job1

I myself will ban (ben wayne) and (elliot-3020456) for life. I ask all to place these two losers on ignore.

rebelwcause and Gofigureit added to the ignore white trash list.

DONE!!!

Urban Dictionary: troll

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One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

Jerry- do you feel better now? Most of us are focused on the tragedy and victims and you need to post nonsense.

I feel for all those who are involved in this tragedy. It never should happen.

To those who feel the need to put others on the "ignore" list that is another thing. You think your so above everyone that I find you even more repulsive today. This is a tragedy and their is no other way to put it. We kill thousands of babies a day and you look the other way and feel it's a woman's right to kill before birth. Then you say God Bless in your posts. Job1 you are not fooling anyone with your phony remarks. We know you have no belief in God or moral standing in any form.

Fiesty said to take the high road and become Americans first today and leave party out of it. That summed it up pretty good for me. I am an American first everyday. I have fought for this country and I will continue to do so. That is why I am a Republican. I can't take off my Republican jacket and become an American, they go together. But a Democrat can't be a Democrat and an American at the same time. That is the difference between the two parties.

Now for the phoney debate of the Dems that it is the guns fault. No it is not. It is the goof balls who did it. I do carry a gun for that reason.

I am a Christian and I pray to God for our Country daily. I think you should also.

Hey people..there are idiots everywhere, on both sides, especially on this site...but we do have a 1st amendment....so we/they can say what they want, we just have to pick and choose what we read/listen too....

Two thumbs up to Pres. Obama for his position. I'm not a big fan of his, but that was a class act. Too bad Bloomberg couldn't have taken the same high road, but I expected no different.

Maybe you should pray to God to give you a loving heart instead of the stone you seem to be carrying inside you now. Not only are you "holier than thou" but also a self proclaimed know it all. For someone who said he agreed to leaving party out of this, you managed to insert it right in the middle of your remarks along with your attitude on carrying a gun so you are prepared for "goof balls".' Yep, God would approve of those so willing to shoot someone else, almost like you can't wait for the opportunity.

On this terrible day where so many people are mourning the loss of their loved ones, you should get down on your knees and ask God to forgive your hard hearted, self absorbed attitude. Maybe you could open your heart to pray for those who are suffering today and will be for a long time to come. So if you won't say it, I will.

Dear Lord in heaven, please comfort and bless those who suffer today, may those who lost their lives today find your everlasting peace. Amen

Jeanne

Not in the least. Take your evil prism glasses off and read my post above. It is really pretty clear. My heart is not stone. I feel for the families. I do not feel for the fake indignation of others. I did not agree to leaving party out of it. I stated my feelings about how to be an American a democrat has to shelf his party. I do not feel that way because my Republicans can keep there affiliation and still be Americans.

rukidding - you're NO American but you are definitely a good Republican.

SS

Thank you. If you agree with me I would be worried. Since you don't I know I am doing ok.

But a Democrat can't be a Democrat and an American at the same time. That is the difference between the two parties.

If you feel that way you have no idea what being an American is really all about. You have every right as an American to believe as you wish. You have no right to claim that those who disagree with you can't also be Americans.

I am an American. I am a Christian. I am a Democrat. I am a Liberal. That is fact, no matter how hard Conservatism works to define me out of society.

History will not look well upon this time in which the Republican Party mainstreamed crazy.

"But a Democrat can't be a Democrat and an American at the same time."

If you truly feel this way (instead of having just gotten carried away in the moment), then YOU are the one in the wrong country. There are many countries where there is really only one party and dissent is not allowed. North Korea comes to mind.

Make sure that you tell your loved ones how you really feel about them, because life can be cut short tragically.

Already done! ☺

Detroit - This area of the country has had more than their share of tragedy. It is mind boggling they have to live through something like this again.

I hope all of the emergency personnel - police, EMT's, firemen, doctors etc, also receive the follow-up care they need in order to not be carrying the burden of this mass murder too. They have had to go through so much - more than anyone ever plans.

Well Said

It's tragic. Not only the massacre, but also the the hate being spouted by ben wayne and his "followers". They must believe being "collapsed" is a badge of honor. It's pathetic.

My heart goes out to all those affected by the horror of this morning.

Now that you've done it once, Feisty, go do it again. Loving on your family and friends is something that can never be done too long or too often.

Feisty Redhead continues to look for ways to make King Obama look better.

How about putting a picture of Dan Quayle over his face.

Anything would be better.

Intersting to find you not making any comments about King Obama's goofy comments. I guess those goofy "words of sympathy" really are a hit with liberals.

He is not sure what he meant and didnt clarify. A perfect speech according to liberals.

milidad,

Take a deep breath, and let it go.

MILIDAD: Here's a clue for you, Obama is currently the leader of this nation, Willardo is a private citizen with no responsibilities. Now do you grasp the distinction???

Thanks, thetotas, I was going to say the same thing.

"To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn)
There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn)
And a time to every purpose, under Heaven

A time to build up ,a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together."

(The Byrds, by way of Pete Seeger and the Book of Ecclesiastes)

We can go back to breaking things down and casting stones tomorrow. Today is a time to mourn.

What? At a time of national tragedy the press gives more coverage to the President of the United States than Mitt Romney? Liberal bastards!

JohnNY - President Obama is our President. Get it now?

Oh wait. Was that sarcasm?

Definitely sounded like sarcasm.

Both men did the right thing. Both deserve credit. No more, no less

Rwing

Please go someplace that's not here. This is not the time.

All my condolences go out to the victims and their families. Between this and Columbine they have taken it on the chin twice too often.

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Well, that defines just about everyone here, LOL.

Debasis - I had not read those quotes. How appropriate. Thank you for sharing.

Your national security trash is very used to watching this sort of grief to protect your interests and their @!$%# stained life...

Now he's loading his pistol sir...

Should we tell the President we need to modify his spectrum a few shades less than the torture he is in...

Nope...needs to be less than conclusive to him...

The absolute truth about your trash and what happened in Tucson

Muller...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-83-5ntEY9E

Despite the ultra thin shadow of tewow your @!$%# stained career hides behind, a strange phenomenon occurs and yours still appears darker and far more destructive to this nation..

This is not the time you pathetic no talent pundits that incorporate no clue military rule and spectrum running through your own heads-with no cause underneath- trying to isolate absolutely nothing with the side effect of suppressing the most repulsive war crimes known to man with the spectrum to the left and right of what is running through your own pathetic head responsible for what you had you reported on that gave antichrist a bump in the polls..

Still want to know who ordered his you tube videos of the air that exactly articulated what I signed under oath to the attorney general of my state along with his dream journal that is nothing like natural dreams (my little girl friend had a dream of me before she started getting a sudden onset of heart attacks like that ultra sensitive waste of time procedure someone provides war time legal cover over the full blown and constant assaults that occurs in between this bull @!$%# vudu)

Actually there is no better time to separate the two then right now you shameful cowards...

I tired my best to explain the most sickening truth to defend his life (hoping someone would do the same to me, ya right in this sulfur wreaking cowardly perversion) and it came at very great expense to my life but I would do it over and over so I leave this earth on my terms (no matter how forced) trash...

Rich, I think your drugs are wearing off. So what happened in Tucson is someone was installing vertical blinds? cause that's what you linked.

Jeff S - as you know that is an old email lie that has been disproven many times. We can discuss that piece of tripe tomorrow if you wish.

For today Please, as you said let's focus on prayers and thoughts for those killed, injured, and affected by the shooting.

Thank you

Google it buddy its, true supposed to vote July 30

Oh, well, holly, if it's on the internet it must be true!

I have a bridge for sale on ebay, great location; Brooklyn, NY. $100,000 (and since it's on the internet, you know it's totally legit!)

Tomorrow holly, tomorrow please.

The three-month-old baby was among the injured, not the dead. Thank goodness. Also, a six-year-old child was injured but not killed.

http://www.thejournal.ie/batman-shooting-movie-colorado-aurora-527076-Jul2012/

A Libtard.