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Subscribe to RSSPresident Obama's speech about the shooting at an Aurora, Colo., movie theater at a campaign rally was "awkward," says NBC political director Chuck Todd. Both leading presidential contenders are suspending advertising in the state.
Updated 12:53 p.m. - The shooting of moviegoers in Colorado “reminds us all of the ways that we are united as one American family,” President Barack Obama said Friday in remarks mourning the victims of the overnight massacre.
Speaking in Florida, where he cut short a campaign trip, the president led a crowd in a moment of silence and called for Americans to reflect on what he called a senseless act of violence.
“Even as we learn how this happened and who's responsible, we may never understand what leads anybody to terrorize their fellow human beings like this,” Obama said. “If there's anything to take away from this tragedy it's the reminder that life is very fragile. Our time here is limited and precious.”
Mitt Romney, speaking early Friday afternoon in New Hampshire, said: "Our hearts break with the sadness of this unspeakable tragedy. Ann and I join the president and first lady -- and all Americans -- in offering our deepest condolences to those whose lives were shattered in a few moments of evil in Colorado."
The presidential campaign was essentially put on hold after a gunman waged an assault on viewers of a midnight showing of “The Dark Knight Rises” in Aurora, east of Denver.
Speaking at a planned campaign rally in Bow, New Hampshire GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney set aside politics and spoke of the mass shooting in Colorardo.
Slideshow: Shooting at Batman screening in Aurora, Colo.
Obama canceled a planned campaign stop for later Friday in Florida to return to the White House; Vice President Joe Biden and first lady Michelle Obama also canceled political events set for Friday afternoon. The Romney campaign canceled a planned series of radio interviews this afternoon.
“I am so moved by your support, but there are going to be other days for politics. This, I think, is a day for prayer and reflection,” the president told supporters.
Additionally, the both the Romney and Obama campaigns put a hold on airing political ads on television on Colorado for at least the weekend.
"I stand before you today not as a man running for office, but as a father and grandfather, a husband and an American," Romney said, also striking an apolitical tone in his statement. "This is a time for each of us to look into our hearts and remember how much we love one another and how much we love and how much we care for our great country."
Details from the shooting were still emerging as of late Friday morning, but White House press secretary Jay Carney said that the president was first notified of the shooting at 5:26 a.m. ET by John Brennan, his homeland security adviser. Obama called the mayor of Aurora later in the morning, and received a follow-up briefing from Brennan, White House chief of staff Jack Lew, and FBI Director Robert Mueller.
"The president orders that his administration do everything that it can to support the people of Aurora in this extraordinarily difficult time,” Carney said in a gaggle aboard Air Force One.
Mandel Ngan / AFP - Getty Images
President Barack Obama steps off Air Force One upon arrival at Southwest Florida International Airport July 20, 2012 in Fort Myers, Florida.
Most political reaction revolved around expressing sympathies for the victims of the shooting.
"I am stunned and furious at the news of the shooting at the Aurora Century 16 Movie theatre this morning,” said Democratic Colorado Rep. Ed Perlmutter, whose district includes the site of the crime. “Colorado is not a violent place, but we have some violent people. We are a strong and resilient community, and we will lean on each other in the days, weeks and months to come.”
Few elected officials touched on the impact of the Colorado shootings on the long-simmering debate about gun control laws.
"I would say as you know the president believes we need to take common sense measures that protect the Second Amendment rights of Americans while ensuring that those who should not have guns under existing laws do not get them," Carney said when asked about the impact of the shooting on the gun debate. "We're making progress in that regard in terms of improving the volume and quality of information on background checks, but I have nothing additional on that for you. This is obviously a recent event."
One of the few exceptions to that came from New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a longtime advocate for stricter gun laws.
At a planned campaign event in Fort Myers, Fla. President Barack Obama steers away from politics and leads the nation in a moment of silence for the victims of the mass shooting in Colorado.
"You know, soothing words are nice, but maybe it's time that the two people who want to be president of the United States stand up and tell us what they are going to do about it, because this is obviously a problem across the country," Bloomberg said on WOR Radio in New York. "No matter where you stand on the Second Amendment, no matter where you stand on guns, we have a right to hear from both of them concretely, not just in generalities -- specifically, what are they going to do about guns?"
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Obama said the correct things today, But He will be working on taking our rights away right after 18 Holes Tomorrow?
You mean the right to trial by jury?
You mean the right against illegal search and seizure?
Ooops that was W. Sorry
President Obama and Mr. Romney BOTH showed class and are to be commended for that.
Then you have individuals like US citizen---the trash at the other end of the spectrum.
You want to have a positive impact, to make a difference with this drastic and costly negative in our society? Then I guess we need to recognize it as a real problem within our society and while not having to take responsibility for the problem, knowing we didn't cause it, to take some responsibility for addressing the problem ... gun control won't do that as that is just a political cop-out.
I suspect it is reasonable to assume that in each of these cases the perpetrators felt alienated from society, basically alone and not considered, unfairly left out, or however you want to describe it, and then they felt the need to strike out, hoping for the attention they felt society owed them and to really just show society. The only way to impact that is to have organizations and programs throughout society that compassionately and privately reach out to identify, understand and help. These people are not totally isolated and invisible; they have interactions, even if just few, show signs and do reach out - that is their nature.
We can continue to just chastise those with the problem, correctly feeling we are not at fault and shouldn't have the expense taken from our resources, and then we can just continue to live with these catastrophes and with always fruitlessly discussing gun control. Society has to take responsibility for it's problems and not just for offering opportunity for the successful to have substantial gains - and that isn't being "liberaL', it is being self-servingly wise. A cooperative society that serves the needs of all of it's people far out produces a competitive society that just caters to "the few". When we help those with needs and bring them up to a higher productive level, we then help all of society, making the total more productive and even producing profits for "the few".
obama has returned to the White House for a day of prayer? Folks today is the first day of Ramadon so of course he will spend it in prayer; don't be fooled by anything he does or says, and don't give up your God our your guns!
Nam Vet???
You just gotta be behind willard,.. right???
While you were in the jungle... willard was in Paris,.. strolling the avenues and boulevards,.. having quite a gay old time...
chickenhawks are like that... And of course, he greatly SUPPORTED the war effort....
He just didn't want to fight in it...
Go willard !!!!!!!!!
K1200 I am only supporting the lessor of two evils; and that 1200 won't run with my GW1832!
K1200S, are you a "rump ranger"?
NamVet:
Two tours or just an extension? Thanks for your service.
Give the political discourse a rest for today. I give both the President and Gov. Romney credit for backing off, due to the tragic events in Colorado, at least for the day.
Nobody is going to get your guns and no one, I repeat no one can get to your God. I would hope yours isn't one that suggests that guns are what will bring the peace on Earth most of us hope for. Some Gods don't suggest Jihad is the way to bring people into the fold. lol
4th Down: I extended, and don't be fooled by why obama took the day off; your are correct in that no one will take them 'peacefully'; guns will protect or recover our rights, and America best pay close attention to what is happening; if we cant fix this problem in November (if an election is allowed) there will only be one way to correct the problem!
Arizona,,,.. Ask your mommy...
She seemed quite happy with my performance....
Not surprisingly....
so you came out of Nam with mental issues, eh?
Nam Vet...I doubt it. Everybody I served with and ever knew were honorable. You don't fit that mold.
I think NamVet is sick in the head from the agent orange he took in while in Nam
@NamVet
I hope you understand what you're advocating. I'm sure somebody will notice this and look into your Anti-American rantings. You are a sad excuse for a vet. You shame us all.
I hate it when these shootings are politicized. But what can you say. Did you see zimmerman on foxnews.com. The guy was making his case on the hannity show. And the hannity man was asking zimmerman all these soft ball questions. Even those stumped the zimmerman sometimes so the hannity man had to answer his own questions from time to time. What kind of interview is that. No. No.
It wasn't an interview. It was just another nutcase taking the stage on the world wide tv network of crooks, cheats, and criminals. The network that brought you 911. I tell you it only encourages others who just want their time in the lime light. To be able to say whatever they want to. And when the question goes over their heads, hannity, i mean the fox news interviewer will answer the question correctly for them.
All i can say that i hope the nra, the rushbo, mr grover, & the gop & foxnews.com are feeling proud of themselves with soooo many people killed and injured. The largest number ever. They are sooo much like al qaeda. They need to keep outdoing themselves.
Based on past experience, please forgive me for not believing you won't be using this tragedy to advance your political agenda, Mr. Obama. Remember, we should never let a crisis go to waste. Perhaps there's a young black man who you could wish aloud that your son resembled. Or perhaps you could use this tragedy as an excuse to sign on to the UN gun control treaty. Of one thing I'm absolutely certain: you will find a way to blame Republicans for the events in Aurora, CO somehow someway.
Yes there will be other day for politics because he knows that this Joker was a die hare democrat.
First day of Ramadon! All the rag heads are wearing those knee pads out, and the HMIC is no exception!
Bama, you have come out with some of the most off the wall insensitive comments in the past which I have written off as you are just out of touch with what is actually going on in the US and with the economy. But as you or anyone who chooses to make ridicules political and insensitive related accusations and remarks should probably host a Republican political rally in front of the movie theater in Aurora to advocate on behalf of the 2nd Amendment rights and gun owners everywhere. Don’t forget to invite Romney and the rest of the greedy corrupt Republican elected officials.
I would ask how ignorant can you possibly be except that you would probably take that as a challenge.
NamVet it's truly a shame Charlie didn't waste your sorry ass. Thousands,Hell tens of thousands who were better than a bigoted,lying sack of chit such as yourself weren't as lucky to make it back as you.
kennyw: Speaking of my sorry ass-I bet you know just where to kiss it, but thats a pretty rash statment to make based on my commit unless of course you are a rag head yourself? Hows that hope and change working out for you?
No clown, unlike you I'm a veteran who actually respects the office of the Presidency no matter my feelings towards the politics of the office holder.
And compared to the failings of the President whom occupied the White House prior to Obama I would say that "Hope and Change" has been working pretty well.
Seeing as my business partner and I just joined a collective of other small business owners to negotiate a contract with a health provider that formerly did not do business in my state,thanks to the ACA passing and being on the verge of full implementation and that this will allow us to offer expanded and more comprehensive coverage to our employees for less money I would say that for me personally it's working out very well.
Sorry my reality trumps your rhetorical,nonsensical rantings.
kennyw-Its not your reality that I noticed first; it was the fact that your full of sht! You claim to be a veteran, and talk to me in that manner? Partner the girl scouts don't make you a veteran! Good luck with that obamascare; that will be history in Jan., and if your business is successful the government will be running it anyway! Sin Loi!
NO OBAMA fan here, but give the man creidt and his due for not doing his stump today. Donst matter if he wanted to cancel it or not;he did cancel it and sometimes we need to just take it at face value.
First day of Ramadon; this was only a good excuse to appear concerned while he spent the day in prayer for 72 virgins, and rivers of honey! Don't be fooled!
NamVet:
Swiftboater tactics aren't needed today. Give it a rest.
Do your politicking tomorrow. Keep your guns. The rest of us are keeping ours.
Teach your children well. Hate and destruction will not provide a path to the promised land.
NamVet us right.
You are so quick to judge Romney with out any facts.
Romney manned up in 1970 and registered for the draft after his missonary work was completed in France. He drew #202. The highest number drawn was #195. Hardly a draft dodger.
What was Obama doing? Did he join our military? No, he travelled to Madrasah's in Karachi Pakistan, Hyderabad in India this most muslim city in India established in 1591 by the mulsim Mohgal leader Sultan Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah, as well as the muslim country on the planet Idonesia.
One manned up, the other got in touch with his muslim roots.
p*issed off,
Obama was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD when Viet Nam ended. Are you seriously advocating that CHILDREN should serve in the military?
And seeing as Obama was a child,in the custody of his mother and stepfather,at the time of his stint in Indonesia,NOT Pakistan you phucking idiot,I find it comical that you can make a claim that he chose to do anything.
By the way the schools he attended in Jakarta (again nitwit---that's in INDONESIA) were the Santo Fransiskus Asisi (Saint Francis Asisi) CATHOLIC School,for grades 1&2 and a part of the 3rd grade and then the Bensuki School,a public school,for the remainder of the 3rd grade and the entirety of the 4th grade.
Then he moved back to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents and attended the Punahao School in Honolulu for grades 5-12.
You're a jackass of the first order and I guess I understand you choosing p*ssed off as your moniker.
Were I as blindingly stupid as you are I would be p*ssed off myself.
This whole thread is political in that Mr. Bloomburg made it political and ABC started the whole thing off by their Tea Party blooper. First and formst Mr. Bloomburg, I ask that you dress up in your best suit and go walk the South or West side of Chicago by yourself and tell me how those strict gun laws are working. And to all the networks, and I mean all of you! Stop all your freaking speculations. Your reporting on both sides has divided this nation more than either candidate or party. Its downright disgusting what you've been reporting for the last 10-20 years. Get it right the first time, and just maybe there is hope for adult discussion. Whether on a board or on your newscasts!
18 dead in Chicago! Where is their press conference Mr. President? Where is there moment of silence! Their lives do not worth your attention?
BLACK MALES ARE DYING!
Obama's plays golf while the body bags roll in from old precinct where he was a community oranizer on Chicago's South side
Even as violent crime has decreased in cities such as New York and Los Angeles, the murder rate soared here by 38 per cent in the first six months of the year. There were 259 murders in that period, with another 18 so far in July.
"This is a block-to-block war here, a different dynasty on every street," said a dreadlocked young man heavily inked in gang tattoos who calls himself "Killer".
"All the black brothers just want to get rich, but we got no jobs and no hope. We want the violence to stop but you ain't safe if you ain't got your pistol with you. Too many friends, too many men are being killed. We don't even cry at funerals no -more. Nobody expects to live past 21 here."
Actually, the latest "body bags" are "rolling in" from CO..
Have somebody read you the article...
Good luck !!!!
The weekend as just started, we can watch the body count from Chicago raise by monday.
We will hear nothing from this President, are those lives not worth a press conference? His attention?
It is only if the shooter is white and if he can get some political gain out of it that you will hear from him
sally....
We both know, you're mindlessly stretching here...
Currently, the major focus is on willard..
First for Bain,.. and then for withholding his tax returns...
And no amount of your mindless blathering is going to change that...
And... amusingly so....
dont make me get on here and start slapping you around , ky - shut your pie hole
`From a fellow Coloradoan. May the victims and their loved ones find peace.
To all the posters here hating, I am so sorry for you. Your lives must be hell. Bless you anyway.
Would'nt be nice if Obama a fellow Chicagoan felt the same way about the 259 dead young black males killed this year.
259 for christ sake! That is more Americans killed than in Afgahnistan!
Where is their day of Prayer?
I agree with you....campaigning was not put aside by Barry it was disguised as a mournful photo op....Some people are just sick.
I pray for the victims, their families, the shooter....I do not have to pray for Barry O....his photo ops, chosen at will, are sickening.
The posts here today from tea people and Republicans are disgusting. There is no low they are not willing to sink to to attack Obama.
To all the people of Colorado .. You are in my prayers.
Eric T
@P$ssed
Do us all a favor and crawl back into your bottle. That will help ease the pain of being you.
You can count the number on this post that are politicking and evidently oblivious to the lives lost in Colorado through some senseless action.
They can certainly "hug" their weapons each and every night, but don't seem to be a bit concerned about the parents that no longer can "hug" their kids each and every night.
No problem with foisting a defense for the 2nd Amendment, but give it a break for just one day and foist a defense for families that loose loved ones because of warped agendas or the thrill of it all.
This social media is not doing a good job of teaching respectful debate among our children.
Many of us are tired of O bl mm r picking and choosing which American tragedies he will use to campaign...campaigning is sometimes disguised...photo ops are not.
" teaching respectful debate among our children"
Like a standing president accusing a political rival of a Felony? Indicting that rivals wife because she has four helpers for her MS?
Dogs on Car Roofs? High School Pranks?
Leadership reflects attitude.
4th Down: Your correct in part regarding the abuse to this particular post, but the real problems are not taking a day off; the obama group is attempting to re-write the 2nd as we speak; there is no rest in their agenda! Also I exctended twice; did 22 months, and 11 days; I would guess you did swift boats, and hung out with that Gulf of Tonkin Yacht Club? I'm too old to change!
NamVet:
Not quite, I Corps 69-70.
The only reason I'm posting is to try to get folks to understand that there is a difference between political discourse and the daily "lives" of Americans. I have no problem with differing points of view, I just think that they can and ought to be discussed in a rational environment. And I have no problem with anyone strongly believing that the leadership in power needs be changed.
I'm just concerned that our children and their children who are subject to our debates, will not always be aware that discourse may be strong but not necessarily nasty.
We may disagree, but I think we can do so without demeaning each other. Respect and understanding is what we should be teaching our kids. Just my humble opinion. That way maybe, just maybe we can all live together with differing opinions.
Once again my friend, thanks for your service. We're all getting older and just trying to make life better for our, and our brother's families.
p*ssed off, you might want to check with your state ASPCA on pet transportation laws. Because or Mitts admission of putting his dog in and tying the pet carrier to the roof of his car there has been a new law written making it unlawful. Normally a responsible person would not do such a thing but then we are talking about Romney and his condoning wife which should tell everyone that he holds little regard for animals in general. Romney views the majority of the American people in much the same way which tells you that he is very good at hiding his illegal corrupt activities like the money he stole from American workers pensions.
But then as this article goes you would make a political statement on behalf of the greedy corrupt Republican elected officials in light of such a tragedy. But as you or anyone who chooses to make ridicules political and insensitive related accusations and remarks should probably host a Republican political rally in front of the movie theater in Aurora to advocate on behalf of the 2nd Amendment rights and gun owners everywhere. Don’t forget to invite Romney and the rest of the greedy corrupt Republican elected officials.
My thoughts and payers go out to the families and friends.
I pray for the souls of the victims, the healing of the wounded, the families of all, and I pray for the shooter.....no matter how bad this day is....I can never appreciate Barry O. because he has brought and continues to bring such hardship on citizens of our country and that causes undo stressers.....There have been so many situations/tragedies where Barry O. has not even commented, yet today he had to have a televised statement.....campaigning disguised.
If Obama and family are back at the White House it is for their protection. Other than that it doesn't matter where or what he is doing. Didn't know he was going to Florida not interested in his phoney comment about how now is the time Americans need to join together. We know what to do ,thank you very much. Don't know how muslims do it.
I am shocked .. but not surprised.
Vast majority of progressives posters here are posting comments of sympathy for the victims and warding off attacks from Republican tea people.
Vast majority (not all though) of Republican tea people are posting comments of attack on Democrats and Mr Obama.
It's vile and despicable.
But :) Keep it up. There are many independents here that have not decided who the good guys are yet. This election will be decided by them. Thank you Republicans and tea people for showing your true colours.
This idiot in Washington wants to take our guns away.If I had been there this guy would have tasted lead and lots of it.Sorry for the losses the families are going thru.
That is absolutely false. I don't care what the NRA tells you. Please investigate and read for yourself.
Your guns aren't going to be taken from you. That's just scare tactics the rightwingers use to keep you voting for them.
Name one,ONE,measure that the President has advocated to limit our 2nd Amendment rights.
He signed a bill that allows handguns to be taken into National Parks for pity's sake.
Next time choose an avian moniker more befitting your mental acumen please.
Whitecuckoo would suffice for example.
Silvereagle:
Keep your guns (weapons). Please don't suggest that I have to worry that everyone sitting beside me and my family in a theatre has arms.
My God, I'm thinking about an afternoon or evening of enjoyment and I have to worry about the people behind me, perhaps accidentally discharging a weapon?
By all means bring them to the theatre, if you wish, but please leave them in the vehicle. The last thing we need is someone discharging a firearm in a dimly lit theatre toward something they suspect is suspicious.
Granted, had you been in Aurora, you may have been able to dispatch the shooter. That would have been lead flying both ways, but may have saved lives. That's conjecture. I'd rather bet on the best of humanity, and this tragedy was an aberration. If not, then we have a lot more to think about than everyone arming themselves.
I want to live in America, not necessarily Tombstone or Dodge City or any of the other "wild" west towns. I'm afraid we're drifting backwards.
It's a shame some people can't take a day off from the hate and politics as our leaders have. One has to almost feel sorry for them. God bless all you fine folks.SILVEREAGLE- DO YOU KNOW THE SECONDARY EFFECTS OF A WEAPON- from a Vet nam vet.
Those of you who've seen my past posts know my politics. But there will be none of that today.
Condolences to the families, friends, and acquaintances of all those injured, or killed in this tragedy.
Congratulations to both President Obama, and Candidate Romney for according the respect due this tragedy.
Kudos to all those here, and elsewhere that joined our leaders in putting aside our differances in honor of those affected by this tragedy.
And to those on both sides who just can't seem to put aside; for even a short time, their agressive need to dominate. I say "Get a life".
FroboseTF:
I say "Yo". You are right on point.
I thought this was about Barrack Hussiem Obama. There are other sites about the families.
psp:
As said previously, get a life. Donate and campaign tomorrow. Spend some time with your family tonight.
4thDown: Your fighting a loosing battle; the HMIC has created so much hatred, and set the black race back a hundred years, but don't give up! I'm out of here; Sin Loi!
Welcome Home!
If I was a bettin person, I'd bet his next campaign stop will be lets see somewhere like Colorado.
@psp
Gosh, do you think that it might be to show some compassion for those folks who lost so much? Unlike you who has only lost your humanity.
Try to actually be a real man/woman/whatever. Stop being...well, you.
psp is a republicn troll just trying to bait people. Best thing to do it ignore him.
@David
I agree. I am so glad their world is not my world. I couldn't live in that morass of fear and hatred.
Our hearts and sympathy goes out to the victims and families of this horrible event. Have to commend the police, the hospitals in the Denver area, the Doctors and nurses, the mayor of Aurora, our Governor and the people in the theater that stopped and helped each other. Hard to take after experiencing Columbine. The people of Colorado are good people and we will join together and get through this again. God bless these families.
@iloveusa4
I was living in Denver when Columbine happened. The collective heart of the whole area broke at the same time. Now it has happened again. Nobody deserves this.
My heart and prayers go out to each and every victim and their families.
Dennis Price...........You know mass murder from a terrorist kinda makes a person a little angry especially when the President of the United States stands before us and calls us Americans and never refers to himself as an American. How come you don't see that?
psp
What are you 12? He doesn't need to stand up there and declare himself American all the time to please the likes of you. We, except for possibly you, are all Americans including the President. What, was Rush saying that? Along with Batman being a dig at Bain? Good, he can be an idiot twice. You being no better because you believe him.
Dennis....Obama has never claimed to an American.
Oh man, it's true. Somethings you just can't fix. OK, for the last time, he doesn't have to tell you jack squat. Guess what? He was vetted and cleared by the Secret Service, CIA, FBI, NSA and every security organization this country has. What more do you need? There is zero hope for people like you psp. You are and always will be ignorant.
Right now this country and OUR President have more important things to take care of without worrying about your incredibly petty complaints.
How about giving it a rest. There will be other times.
I heard MSNBC's Chuck Todd and ABC's Brian Ross got charged with ‘sexual related’ crimes. Anybody else hear about this? This is based on pure stereotypical speculation, but just the same....
@back
How is this relevant? I can answer that myself, IT'S NOT!!!!! What is wrong with you? Try to stick to the topic.
"He was wrong, and it took 16 hours for ABC to offer."
False. It was up in a couple of hours after GMA. I saw it myself.
Not that I mind, but I'm still seeing ads.
Its obvious that most of the people who commented here need to be locked away in helluva rubber room The tragedy that took place to day is a call for people to pause and reflect on the loss of lives and stop the petty dirty politics. The bitter hearts filled with hatred not taking this nation anywhere. The President stood up and did the right thing so too Romney . The rest of you who only critictse and are putting down both men need you little head examined. Shame on you all who are guilty of such low down behavior
Can someone with a sane thought tell me what is the answer to all these people being able to get a hold of these kinds of weapons.And possibly tell me what it takes to get a gun permit.Should it be tougher to get a permit or cut down on the selling of illegal weapons ? These kinds of things are just horrible and so many innocent people are being killed.
Maria...........Can't discuss that on this site , it would take away from Obama and his limelight. But here is what is going to happen......they are going to find the man is crazy or insane a loner or odd. He will go to jail and we will never hear about him again. Do you know what is really bad , "His" family wants the public to leave them alone while they are going thru this troubling time. I can hardly wait until the story about who he is comes out.
Because it's easier to get a vote to restrict voting rights to address a non existent problem then it is to address the number of murders by people using guns, which is an existing problem. Go figure. Both involve people, only the last one is true.
Hey Dennis, I saw your Obamas speech , after the stuttering and kinda slurring words he managed to drag out some sort of sympathy if that is what you want to call it. He kinda looked a little tired. He needs a vacation. Whats if been a couple of weeks since his last vacation?
psp,
You need to go sober up. You're hallucinating more then usual. This is about the victims in Colorado. Try to stay on subject.
Dennis.......I thought you were dicussing guns. What subject do you want to stay on. I personally like to discuss your Obama. This is still America we Still have the freedom of speech don't we? Obama sure does.
Why don't you pull your head out of the sand and connect all of the dots, and what you come up with ain't gonna be pretty.
dennis, let me help you - there is no voter restrictions to legal americans casting votes and there is a HUGE problem with illegals and fruadulant democrats casting bogus votes. See?
PC
How about some proof? Oh, there's none. Just what you clowns make up. There is zero grounds for this other then to restrict voting rights. You people don't seem to believe in the constitutional right to vote.
why dont you look back through the news around 2007 and 2008 - there were 27 states bringing suites against acorn - you know - that good honest democrat organization? for fruadulant voter registration. See dennis - you need to keep up on current events if you want to join the adults conversations - dont stay uninformed then whine for "proof" when someone corrects you on something. Its noones job but yours to find facts , nobody is required to provide you with a bibliography
Maria,
First, there is no such thing in most states as a "gun permit" to buy or own a firearm. There are permits to carry a concealed pistol or revolver, but there is no requirement to get a permit to buy or own a gun. Furthermore, in many, if not most states it is legal to carry a gun in the open without any sort of permit. Restrictions on gun ownership are usually related to criminal history or mental health issues. For the bulk of people there is no more a permit requirement to buy a gun than there is to buy a kitchen knife. So your basic premise that a permit is required to buy or own a gun is incorrect.
Second, among the 320 million or so residents in the United States, there are, as I understand it, more than 200 million privately owned small arms (revolvers, pistols, rifles and shotguns). I have yet to hear of a law, ordinance or rule which, if it had been in effect, would have prevented the sort of massacre that took place in Colorado today. In fact, there are many instances in which existing laws were not effective in preventing violence, such as the prohibitions against minors possessing sidearms in cases where teenagers have shot people. Sweden has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world, yet one man succeeded in killing dozens of children with a rifle and ammuniction he managed to obtain. People who suggest a ban on firearms will deter killing are either living in a fantasy world, or are using the gun issue to divert attention to the real problems which give rise to extreme violence in our society. I don't believe a ban on private ownership of firearms in this country has any chance of being accepted in our lifetimes.
"why dont you look back through the news around 2007 and 2008 - there were 27 states bringing suites against acorn"
With almost every single one completely dismissed.
There've been, what, 9 legitimate cases of voter fraud over the last 10 years or so? Yeah, really a MASSIVE problem. See here for discussion: http://www.thenation.com/blog/167217/voter-fraud-fraud#