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Mitt Romney said again today that President Obama didn’t believe that Steve Jobs built Apple.
“To say what he said is to say that Steve Jobs didn't build Apple Computer or that Bill Gates didn't build Microsoft or that Henry Ford didn't build Ford Motor Company or that Ray Croc didn't build McDonald's or that Papa John's didn't build Papa John's Pizza,” Romney said today at a town hall in Ohio. “This is the height of foolishness. It shows how out of touch he is with the character of America. It's one more reason his policies have failed. It's one more reason why we have to replace him in November.”
Robyn Beck / AFP - Getty Images file photo
In this file photo, Steve Jobs gives the keynote address on the opening day of the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference at the Moscone Center West in San Francisco, Calif.
It’s not a new line. Here’s what Romney said yesterday: “The idea to say that Steve Jobs didn't build Apple, that Henry Ford didn't build Ford Motor; to say something like that is not just foolishness. It's insulting to every entrepreneur, every innovator in America. And it's wrong.”
It’s part of the Romney campaign’s latest condemnation of the president, who it says is anti-business. The Jobs charge is based on the Romney campaign’s reading of President Obama’s speech on Friday in Virginia, in which he said, in part: “If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”
But does that mean the president doesn’t believe Steve Jobs built Apple? Here’s what Obama said in his statement after Steve Jobs died:
“By building one of the planet’s most successful companies from his garage, he exemplified the spirit of American ingenuity.”
By the way, here’s the full context of the president’s speech Friday in Virginia:
“But you know what, I’m not going to see us gut the investments that grow our economy to give tax breaks to me or Mr. Romney or folks who don’t need them. So I’m going to reduce the deficit in a balanced way. We’ve already made a trillion dollars’ worth of cuts. We can make another trillion or trillion-two, and what we then do is ask for the wealthy to pay a little bit more. And, by the way, we’ve tried that before -- a guy named Bill Clinton did it. We created 23 million new jobs, turned a deficit into a surplus, and rich people did just fine. We created a lot of millionaires.
“There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.
“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
NBC’s James Rankin contributed to this report.
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What is sadly overlooked by the media and many political junkies is that most of the Obama cited government programs that make individuals and businesses successful, is the fact that these programs are constitutionally under state and local government perview, not federal.
I have worked in the public sector and the private sector. No matter where I have worked there have always been slackers and jerks who collected paychecks for doing as little work as possible. There have always been people who don't like to earn their pay. But in both the private and public sectors the majority of workers were good, decent hard-working people who earned their pay and accomplished their tasks. I hate the assumption that everyone in the private sector wears a halo and works their ass off while everyone in the public sector does just the opposite. It simply isn't true. The cop who lives across from me works 12 hour shifts without complaint. His back hurts all the time because he has to wear 40 pounds of equipment on his belt, and while most of the time his work is rather tedious and boring, that can all change in an instant. He has responded to bank robbery calls, domestic violence calls, hostage situations and gunshots fired. He's just an ordinary guy who isn't perfect, but his life is on the line and he deserves some respect. My son's brother-in-law is a cop. He once talked down a guy that was holding a gun to a child's head. He did it standing face to face with the guy while his gun remained in his holster. Don't tell me these guys are sucking on the public tit, cause I don't believe it. When I had a house fire, the fire department was here within five minutes and they saved my house. I love these guys. When the High Park Fire in Colorado was over, all the people in the area had signs on their fences, "Thank you fire department. Thank you for saving my home and my life."
When my kids were young, they attended some of the best public schools, even though funding for those schools was scarce. They all got a good education that serves them well today.
When my neighbor had a heart attack, the paramedics were there within minutes. They saved her life. They are not parasites. They are people who save lives. I am grateful that there are tax dollars to pay their salaries.
Every time I go to a national park, be it Yellowstone, Yosemite or any of the other beautiful places, I am grateful that federal dollars preserve and protect these places, for me, today, and for my children and grandchildren and all the other people who will have the chance to see beauty and the pristine wilderness that is a gift to all of us.
Every time I get on an airplane I am grateful that there are air traffic controllers and an FAA that establishes safety protocols that will insure that the plane will stay in the air and come down safely.
When I buy my food I am grateful that the FDA has established rules for food handling and transportation and that I have some degree of certainty that the food I am going to feed my family will be safe to eat.
Because I have asthma, I am grateful for every day that the EPA has improved the air quality and prevented even more pollutants. It isn't perfect, but it's better than it was 20 years ago.
I am grateful to government employees for my quality of life, for the things they do, and for the fact that the government cares enough about its citizens to provide all these things.
I'm willing to pay taxes because it pays for these things. Are you so opposed to paying taxes that you are willing to do without them?
Good post.
Well, I guess Willard thinks Papa Johns could deliver his crappy pizza if there were not roads? I think it is more likely Willard has not a clue that Papa Johns is strictly delivery and pick-up, both of which require roads.
Willard is absurd.
BABINA, Dont you get it? We paid for those roads! The federal government didn't give them to us as a gift! Use the brain God gave you... They collected taxes from us while taking a salary for themselves and then paid some contractor to do the work. Then they turned around and taxed the contractor's income while taking another healthier paycheck and then spent that money and even went out and borrowed more to do some more stuff -- like buy their seats in government by taking money out of your paycheck and giving it to somebody they believed to be more deserving of it than you so they would give them their vote... Get a clue!
The money that people use to pay taxes is generated through private enterprise that includes private labor. Ultimately the tax payers are responsible for paying back all of this debt that our federal government has been accumulating. The federal government is overhead to the economy but our President does not understand that concept.
I want the President to get down to brass tacks. Without conditions to include any action of congress, our President promised the nation that the 2012 federal deficit would not exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet his own White House has predicted that it will exceed 1.3 trillion dollars. The President said that deficit spending was bad and he said that it showed a lack of leadership. I want the President to explain how he is going to keep his promise to the American people. I want him to present a plan for paying back all of this money that we have been borrowing. The tax payers need to know how much the federal government's borrowing is going to end up costing them.
Simpson Bowles or let the automatic cuts take effect.
Congress set up sequestration under last summer’s debt deal between Obama and the Republican Congress to put pressure on lawmakers to act to reduce the deficit. The package moved through the House and Senate with bipartisan support, though there were lawmakers in both parties that opposed it.
Now, Republicans want a way out!
The fact that someone previously says something that seems to contradict the plain meaning of a statement made during a campaign does not mean that you can not take on the plain meaning of the statement. If Romney were to make a statement that was considered outrageous by 90% of the population, but that also seemed to contradict something he said last year, is Obama someone obliged to ignore the outrageous statement? Whatever Obama truly "believes" his statement about business owners not building their business as a matter of principle is worthy of ridicule whether he believes it or not.
The Romney team took this out of context. Obama only wants to say we are working together, we have success because everyone has contributed. That is all he meant!
We should be ashamed of our american politics!
The Republicans are cocky because they just do not like to see a black president in the WH.
The Republican party has lots of guys who do not like to see a black president in the WH. What a shame!
I think it's great that you libs have this little site here where you can all go and share your lib ideas without the 'news' writers getting in your way by reporting stories that are out of your political alignment. After all, the state of this country, and it's rate of decline shouldn't be entering into your discussion. Why would you want to discuss the fraud, waste, and abuse of tax dollars when you can talk about what Mitt may, or may not have done with his own money. This site is like a playground for the mentally challenged.
After Steve Jobs died, and Obama made that comment, it was from a prepared speech that was written for him. His comments the other day about how government should get all the credit came from the heart, he was off-prompter at the time. The man will say one thing, and do another, because there is the Obama he wants to portray, and the Obama that he is.
What I want to know is when the republicans are harping, wailing and railing, why don't they go back to the original speech or statement and read it all. And after one time seeing how it was rearranged, misquoted, intended to mislead, why don't they vow to not let it happen again. I would say 100% not 97 or 95 or 96everytime I have checked something out that the republicans have misstated they are wrong! Always. Not part time not some of the time. Always. Yet they still keep going on like the energizer bunny. I keep thinking cheaters never win and winners never cheat. Four more years for Obama in November!! He is good for all Americans. He deserves reelection. Go Obama! All the republicans have to do is check it our for truth and nothing but! Money don't buy truth!
Obama is a dolt because he has no common sense at all. Kind of guy who throws out his shoes and buys another pair when he breaks a shoelace.
The GOP is trolling for the stupid vote.
you want stupid ask college kids to name their two U.S. Senators - probably 1 in 10 can successfully no matter where one goes to ask the question.
rebel: this isn't limited to college students. Ask random people at a Tea Party rally or an OWS demonstration and you'd get the same results. Remember the lady at the Tea Party rally with the "Keep Government Out of My Medicare" sign??
dsl - you mean the Dem plant at a Tea Party rally? Yes, I remember.
I remember the Dem plants with Hitler signs, too, at the rallies the media plastered all over the TV.
I am not a Tea Party member but let's face facts they are not morons like OWS, not violent like OWS, and smarter than you think.
Certainly, they are smarter than the Dem leadership we have now in the Senate and Executive. Smart enough to know you can't spend money you do not have forever.
Rebel: if you'd care to re-read my post above, I clearly stated that my claims applied to BOTH Tea Partiers and to the OWS protestors.
I know that and I disagree that only 1 in 10 Tea Party members would know their two U.S. Senators.
President Obama is so out of touch with the private sector it borders on total cluelessness.
All he knows is what thinkers ruminate about in the faculty lounges of liberal Universities within the halls of academia where a spade is a tool their gardener uses as opposed to a spade.
The ironic thing is that the claims on behalf of "the private sector" are being made now, ignorjng the corporate scandals of the last 12 years. You might be able to consider these claims if the overwhelming evidence were not against them! Our problems did not begin with he melt-down of 2008, but go back to the excesses of Enron, Tyco and Worldcomm and the "creative accounting" of Arthur Andersen. The Republicans' claims, that the rich already pay too much, might be believable, if it were not in the face of the sustained huge gains made by the wealthy. Have you ever been in an accident where the party at fault is the aggressively aggrieved, angry and loud one? You've just been rear-ended by today's GOP.
"guns don't kill people, people kill people". Similarly, our failures were not on the part of the government, but on the part of the private sector. When the order of magnitude of the rewards goes from one million to one hundredmillion, sensitivity to risk, and fiduciary responsibility to customers, fly out the window. Wall Street amplified what might have been limited, understandable, and manageable failures, by multiplying the defaults many times (same order of magnitude increase as their gains), and spreading the risk all over the world. Too bad banks all over the world weren't independent thinkers and went along for the ride.
"I made a mistake in presuming that the self-interests of organisations, specifically banks and others, were such that they were best capable of protecting their own shareholders and their equity in the firms," said Greenspan.
Corruption comes from the private sector, exploiting the government, and is worth the billions spent on lobbyists and public relations. It's like fighting the terrorists. You build for war in Afghanistan:they pick up their tents and move to Yemen = You implement regulation of derivatives:the traders make some other "dark" deals.
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...with the additional quirk that I (and other traders ...er gamblers) can purchase the insurance part (as a simple bet against the your credit worthiness) without being party to the loan part.
Banks all over the world were in on the bet (multiple bets) against the same "limited number" of bad U.S. Mortgages.
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So Montanaro and Rankin are spokespersons for the obama campaign?...otherwise we have two "journalists" changing the diaper of the president here; the president, heralded as being some genius orator/communicator went off-teleprompter and let slip a Marxist ideal yesterday and made news with it. Today we have two reporters, (outsourced by the obama campaign) instructing us on how to interpret obama's comments. FACT: Obama has about three contradicting speeches he uses depending upon who he's talking to...a real chameleon.
SUPER: Anytime you'd like to compare contradictions between the president and Willardo, please let me know. That's a wager I'm more than happy to take.
0dimwit being a fraud must have difficulty trying to lead and be a thief and a liar at the same time.he'll never be my president and I'll never refer to him as one either.
CLEETUS: No problem. In another 5 years, won't have to deal with him anymore.
Romney/Bachmann 2012!!!
Didn't the President actually say that nobody got to where they are without any help. Not even Steve Jobs built Apple all by himself...there were other people working with him that helped to build Apple. There were people that had ideas used to build their products.
oh yea steve jobs is an american icon. he employs about a million chinese and pays them nothing. his real goals are to automate everthing with robots and have no employees. so don't worship any corporations they all moved jobs overseas and left americans unemployed.
"Computers in the classroom" is what built Apple. That was a venture between the US Ed Dept and several hardware manufacturers, of which Apple was the most prominent, back in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
Be REALISTIC no one person has ever built a giant company without the help of many others. You can start a company put your name on it but it will not just start growing without the help of many. Its a no brainer. Romney is stupid did he not have help from others when he outsourced American jobs.
The GOP has no connection to the truth. Explaining the words of the president when those words are plain is just another trick. Take the bait if you're a fish.
Seeking Sanity
That's a good name for you, There are good mental institutions all over this country!
Obama said what he said! It's you that heard in differently!
Get some Help ASAP
Going into this campaign everybody knew romney was a habitual liar now we all know he is a crook too. RELEASE THE TAX FORMS YOU CROOK!
Let's press for a deal - Romney release 4 years of tax returns for Obama's sealed college transcripts to be released. Another year of tax returns for Obama to provide access to is birth records and sealed birth certificate?
Romney should make the offer and let Obama squirm in finding ways to reject the proposal.
Grin: you're comparing apples to oranges. Let's press for Romney to release as many years worth of tax returns as Obama has. How about that instead?
I don't understand this new fascination with Obama's college records. First, NO president in history has released his college records, so it isn't like Obama is somehow different. Second, for 29 years I was a college professor, so I speak from firsthand knowledge when I say that the agency which accredits the University of Chicago (where Obama taught law for a decade) absolutely saw and vetted Obama's college and law school records before he was allowed in front of a classroom.
And finally, Obama has released both the shortform and longform birth certificate. There is no other "sealed" document to release.
Sealed documents are the apples of this. Obama has not allowed the actual birth certificate on file to be seen. There is no evidence trail to what was released. May seem pickey, but it is what concerns some on the other side. Why NOT release what is asked in the spirit of transparency if nothing else?
Same with the college records. One side believes Obama's training relevant to judging his qualifications - certainly his performance as the Great Uniter and economic policies has left something to be desired.
Records each side wants are comparable - let the disclosures and unsealing begin.
Somebody (either) have something to hide or distort. Everytime Obama wants tax returns, Romney should propose the exchange. Wouldn't we all win if such a deal was made?
I get sick and tired of hearing stupid people talk about obama and his birth certificate. I know the GOP doesn't abide by the united states supreme court decisions (which is unamerican). They also don't believe in the NSA or the FBI.. these are the people that ok someone to be the president. If they are happy with obamas birth certifcate why in the world would someone believe some stupid sherriff from some backwater town is ark. The GOP has no faith in any american institutations. And it is incredible how many stupid people there are in the US. most of them are republicans.
Just a trade of disclousures. GOP wants to see transcripts, courses, and access to the filed birth certicicate. Obama has sealed those for no apparent reason and Obama says they would show nothing. Romney has provided tax returns, yet the Dems want more. Gop says they won't show anything. Yet, here we are with both sides wanting something from the other. Why not make a deal?
Let's unseal the documents and move on to other qualifications and proposals. Any reason why not?
Grin: Obama hasn't "Sealed" anything. He threatened to sue the state of Hawaii to force them to release the longform birth certificate. Romney has NOT provided as many back years of tax returns as any Dem or Rep presidential nominee has for the past forty years.
They are not sealed. They are a distractor issue and therefore, irrelevant. Just because the "GOP wants to see" something, does not make it relevant to seeking the office of the president. What next, childhood immunization records? Sheesh.
Not a complete list, but I don't think these things are not available. Can you show a book or site where they are available. I watched Sheriff Arpaio investigation in Hawaii - seems several things are sealed or not forthcomming. Obama could let those authorities release directly.
Obama wants the tax records - he might just give up these unimportant things to get them - that is unless he would rather complain for political reasons only. Something wrong with Mr. Transparency providing a few docs?
(1) the original, long-form 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate. Then there’s:
2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham)— not found, not released
3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii)— not released
8) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released.(These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
10) Columbia College records — not released
11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
16) Obama’s medical records — not released
17) Obama’s passport records — not released
Grin: how many of the parallels for these documents did GW Bush or John McCain or Bob Dole or GHW Bush or Ronald Reagan release?
You're complaining because Obama's Elementary School records have not been released? That's laughable. There are no baptism records; as the son of a Muslim and an atheist, he was never baptized as an infant.
Some of the items on the list are worse than laughable. In #13 you essentially ask Obama to violate attorney/client privilege. No such thing as #5 exists for any American who has merely lived abroad for a few years.
Obama has released twelve years worth of tax records. Why won't Romney do that? John Kerry released twenty years worth.
Finally, your list above is plagiarized from the link below in clear violation of Newsvine policy and has been reported as such:
http://cryandhowl.com/2012/07/15/whos-hiding-more-stuff-barack-obama-or-mitt-romney/
The list appears in many sources and is public domain.
Just saying Obama says there is nothing to hide. This is all political theater to divert conversation from the economy and jobs, debt, foreign policy, and government by executive order.
Many of the documents would not be necessary, but ALL of them withheld is a pattern of secrecy and looks to be hiding something. Romney could release more tax returns but there is no requirement.
There is a deal to be made in the interest of public disclosure. Why not release them all? Seems fair. What would be the problem with that?
I didn't suggest the list wasn't in the public domain. I suggested you represented it as your own when you failed to provide a citation for it and that's expressly against Newsvine rules.
As NO candidate in history has released school records, copies of his parents' marriage license, etc., what's wrong with that is that it's unnecessary and an invasion of privacy.
College courses, grades, teacher evaluations have been part of the record. Tax returns are not required either. It cuts both ways. Obama should be willing to provide his background as well as Romney.
What a silly little twit you are.
COH violation reported, Plagiarist. I'm not little--6'2"
Show me the college transcripts of even a single president from your lifetime.
So, you don't deny being a twit - you protest "litle" and claim you are a big twit. Well, OK.
Romney does not need to provide any more tax returns and Obama does not need to provide any college record. Obama asks for more returns. Certainly fair to ask for clarification of what Obama studied in school and how he did. If more records are requested on one side, seems fair they also produce more.
Obama is uniquely unqualified to be president and his record proves it.
It takes a lot of C students to make an A student. It takes a lot of drones internet filing resumes to create a someone who starts their own business.
How many 9 to 5 employees does it take to create a job?
Thanks for perfectly articulating the disdain Conservatives have for average Americans.
Oh, and anyone who's willing to buy things and has money to spend "creates a job." Our problem today isn't lack of capital, it's lack of demand...demand that's been squashed by the ever-tightening budgets of a middle class whose income hasn't kept pace with inflation for the last 30 years.
Romney was working at Bain in 1999, 2000, 2001 but by the stroke of a pen they can make him not have worked there after February 1999? Just like Nixon he will fabricate the "truth" what a crook./p>
It was government that built the foundation for the American economy and enabled entrepreneurs to flourish:
1. Government funded the transcontinental railroad and opened up homesteading of the west;
2. Government provided favorable leasing of mineral resources on public lands to expand oil production.
3. Government spending in WWI financed the growth of large scale manufacturing.
4. Government spending in WWII brought America out of the Great Depression.
5. Government GI Bills gave returning veterans education and housing opportunities for entering the middle class.
6. Government organization and spending for the moon race spured tremendous opportunities for entrepreneural growth of business.
7. Government research and development in heatlh care and other technologies brougth America to the forefront in medical care.
8. Government investment in technology created the internet that enabled a tremendous growth in business and personal technology.
Without government business would not flourish:
1. Maintains laws of property and contracts and a court system.
2. Builds infrastructure that enables business to grow and reach markets.
3. Regulates to prevent fraud and harm.
4. Regulates to facilitate open economic competition.
5. Provides Information and education for citizenship and employment.
6. Provides national security.
7. Manages the economy to maintain employment and the value of currency.
LOL - it was the American people who built and paid for all those things. Our government IS the people. Dictators, are governments unto themselves. Those would be governments acting in their own interests for those in power.
The American People built and paid for the American economy - not Obama. Now most Americans, when out of work, look for another job and a new employer. They have no idea or want the risk or headache of starting a business of their own - making their own job. Those who only consider finding a job, are quick to critize and condem those who make jobs but have no talent to create a job for themselves or anyone else. They need someone to do that for them.
The real builders of America rise above the common plane, gamble on their own abilities and vision, and make something which can compete and prosper.
The unwashed masses can only send resumes and hope someone wants to hire (raise them up) them. Poor Hussein has no clue and his results show it.
This election is a choice between two visions for the future of America: One vision is for continuation of the progressive vision of a balance between equality and freedom as the moral foundation of justice, and a more recent conservative vision of an entitlement due the wealthy and the equivalence of corporations to the rights and protections of natural persons under the Constitution.
A progressive future is one in which government is a custodian of the public trust and advocates for justice; where justice is a balance between equality and freedom. Government as a custodian of the public trust means that everyone plays by the same rules and that everyone is equal before the law. Public trust means the rights of the people to preserve and protect the common property of the United States is not severable to the interests of privatization. Public trust means that a corporation has no rights except those given to it by law and does not have equal standing with a natural born person under the Constitution.
The conservative future is one of a hostile corporate takeover with privatization of government functions. The corporate takeover means that having wealth is an effective barrier to others participating in the process of government. It means that government would no longer serve the interests of the community but collaborate with the wealthy corporate owners to establish a separate set of laws that entitle them to preferential treatment while creating barriers to competition by eliminating opportunities for others.
The free market is a myth: if it isn't regulated by government to prevent fraud, it is regulated by the corporate oligarchy to prevent competition. Free means not having to go to jail for fraud and theft.
Freedom of speech for corporations is a political myth: the right to free speech is a right of the natural born person, not an artifact of legal convention.
The conservative options for health care are no birth control, no abortion and no health insurance unapproved by a corporate CEO. The progressive option is universal health care and the right of women to make their own health decisions.
This election is a moral choice between affiliation or aggression, empathy or egotism, service or selfishness, cooperation or competitiveness.
The tale of two visions is the difference between a government of the people, by the people and for the people, and a government run by a plutocracy of corporate power.
Actually the choice boils down to this: do we want to be like Greece, Italy, Spain, etc in a few years - trying to figure out how we're going to pay for all the promised entitlements and discovering there aren't enough rich people left to tax?
The liberals have absolutely no answer for this. How do we avoid the fate of the Euros?
Avoid the fate of Greece, etc.? First, as a monetarily sovereign nation, we can't be forced into their position. Second, we should raise taxes on nearly everybody, cut spending on nearly everything, and increase the currency in circulation a wee bit to goose the economy (and add a touch of inflation--NOT hyperinflation, so don't bore me with that--to make the debt "cheaper" to pay off).
The economic policy that Romney proposes is the exact model of austerity that is destroying the EU economy. How many Republicans know that? The majority of the Republican voters don't know this because, instead of thinking, they swallow the lies and myths fed to them by Fox and friends. If the voters really knew the facts they would run Romney and boys out of the party. He is not a true Republican, he is a globalist looking after his own interests. Why do you think he is stashing his money overseas? Republican always bet on America, no the Cayman Islands, Switzerland or Bermuda.