Cheney warns GOP lawmakers against allowing defense cuts

 

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) liked what he heard from former Vice President Dick Cheney today over lunch in the Capitol.

Cheney was on the Hill on Tuesday to meet with House and Senate Republicans to sound the alarm over automatic defense cuts set to take place on Jan. 1 as laid out in last summer's debt ceiling agreement.

“He probably talked more today than he did in eight years,” Graham told reporters, noting that Cheney seemed in "excellent" health and in "good spirits" following a heart transplant earlier this year.

According to Graham, Cheney, a former secretary of Defense, warned that $500 billion in cuts over the next 10 years would be devastating to long term planning against threats like Iran.

"He pointed out the stealth technology we used in the first Gulf War and precision guided munitions were a result of planning in the eighties," Graham told reporters. "And you know the next war, who knows what the next threats going to be. But, if you had to go into an Iran where you've got really hardened sights, you're going to have to have the most sophisticated accurate weapons possible."

Graham was quick to point out, “He didn’t say we should attack Iran.”

Cheney told Republicans, "You need to keep money flowing in predictable ways so you can plan for the next war."

Graham is advocating a one year fix to avoid $109 billion in defense cuts in 2013. He said he is willing to put revenue on the table in the form of fees, asset sales and ending deductions and loopholes combined with cuts across other parts of the government. He predicted he could bring other Republicans along to support revenue increases if the president wanted to negotiate. 

"Where is presidential leadership here? We need him," Graham said. "He should be calling a group of us. I could bring a pretty large number of Republicans, more than a handful that would sit down with the president and Democrats to find a way to do a combination of revenue, other government cuts to avoid at least 2013."

New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R) also said today she supported a one year fix in the absence of a longer term solution.

On the other side of the aisle, Majority Leader Harry Reid said it was Cheney's ties to Halliburton that were motivating his concerns over defense cuts.

"Halliburton did extremely well during his time as vice president, and I assume there is going to be some concern about Halliburton again in this conversation they're going to have today," Reid told reporters.

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Obama just wants to outsource the military to other countries, just like the space program.

Obama needs the money to give to his friends to they can build failing green businesses, or just steal from people without the fear of retribution.

Who needs a strong military? Heck with all the good work Obama has done in the middle east they are all our friends now. LMAO

Iran having nukes isn't a problem. Nothing to see there. Obama the joke. Killing this country every chance he gets.

By the way, it was military spending that helped invent the internet.

Obama's war on America must be stopped. The Marxist regime needs to go!

  • 7 votes
#1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

The cuts are part of the Budget Control Act of 2011.

Which the GOP voted for.

Remember when they were crying cut the debt.

The GOP tea party voted for these cuts.

  • 18 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:59 PM EDT
Comment author avatarRedSoxRuleExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

sandy, they are because the libby's wouldn't compromise. Try to use facts when you can, I know that is tough.

The group that was set up to cut fat out of the budget couldn't reach an agreement, so it triggered these automatic cuts. The GOP had sound areas to cut, but the libbys wanted to make sure things were painful.

Sandy, you are a typical libby. Always want to place blame elsewhere.

We all know Obama hates America. These cuts will allow him to accelerate the demise of the American dream.

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

Cheney warns GOP lawmakers against allowing defense cuts

Hey Congress, don't @!$%# with my Haliburton money!!!!!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 16 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

Majority Leader Harry Reid said it was Cheney's ties to Halliburton that were motivating his concerns over defense cuts.

That's all it is Leader Reid!

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

CBO report – If the sequester is allowed to go into effect after the end of this year Defense spending would still be larger than it was in 2006 in the middle of 2 wars and with Republican in full control.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43428

  • 12 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

RedSuxReTurd,

As Sandy point out,

The cuts are part of the Budget Control Act of 2011.

Which the GOP voted for.

Your team could not reach an agreement with our team and that is the deal.

  • 11 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

[sandy, they are because the libby's wouldn't compromise]

So in other words, the GOP caved? So you admit they are weak?

Well, that may be news to you, but not to REAL Americans...

  • 10 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

B-Job, I see you took my advice and got a fourth grader to proofread your posts. Your welcome.

If Obama had the slightest leadership ability the 'teams' would have reached an agreement. But since he does not, and seems intent on letting this country fall in to ruin we have this result.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

Try again.

Google Budget Control Act of 2011.

The GOP voted for these cuts.

  • 11 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

We can't have defense cuts because Republicans plan a lot more useless wars. It's important that Haliburton makes money no matter how many brave men and women have to lose their lives in unnecessary wars. It's the GOP way!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 11 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

Poor Sandy, typical libby having trouble with facts.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

RedSox - you have never posted a fact in your life - just GOP lies and deceit. And you back one of the worst war criminals of our time - Dick Cheney - who can't travel outside the US because he will be arrested for war crimes.

Pitiful. You shouldn't talk about anyone!

  • 10 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

Budget Control Act of 2011

House Vote

The agreement, entitled the Budget Control Act, passed the House on August 1, 2011 by a vote of 269–161; 174 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted for it, while 66 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted against it.

.

Senate Vote

The Senate passed the agreement on August 2, 2011 by a vote of 74–26; only 7 Democrats and 19 Republicans voted against it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_Control_Act#House_vote

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:43 PM EDT

Really insanity? I post nothing but facts, but you have trouble with facts, so you just try to wish them away.

How about the war criminal Obama? He has assassinated numerous individuals. Are you going to say the same about him, or are you going to be the typically libby hypocrite.

I thought so. LMAO

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

@ RedSoxRule

Try reading the facts in Dennis's post.

I am a taxpayer who wants the budget cuts.

My trouble with the facts --- mad the GOP does not want to stand by their vote.

@ Dennis Thanks for posting the facts.

  • 11 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

Hmm, as I recall the story about lack of compromise it went something like this . . .

http:// www. bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14098593

www. reuters.com/article/2011/06/23/us-usa-debt-cantor-idUSTRE75M3SA20110623)

http:// swampland.time.com/2011/07/10/no-grand-bargain-boehner-walks-away-from-big-deficit-deal/

One side offered significant cuts to programs that they have historically protected and supported, another side refused any tax increases or the removal of any tax loophole of any kind. In fact, the cuts offered were far larger than the revenue increases sought.

You figure out which side refused to compromise.

  • 6 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

Advice from Cheney, really, seriously? Lest voters forget, here is an excellent review (by Rachel Maddow) of the Lost Decade thanks in large part to Cheney:

You know what was a really bad time? The George W. Bush presidency
was a really bad time. And not just if you were a liberal and you
disagreed with George W. Bush, just if you were an American.

The George W. Bush presidency, the Bush/Cheney years were bad years for us as a country. The national unemployment rate went from a little over 4 percent when he took office to nearly 8 percent by the time that he left. We went from a budget surplus of more than $200 billion to a budget deficit of more than a trillion dollars.

After decades of U.S. household income climbing during the 1980s and 1990s, household fell off a cliff during the Bush years. After poverty declined in the 1980s and declined in the 1990s, in the Bush years, poverty went up.

By the time George W. Bush left office, 6 million more Americans were
added to the rolls of Americans who did not have health insurance. Wall Street in the Bush years collapsed. The country was plunged into the worst depression since the Great Depression in the 1930s.

The Bush/Cheney years were a disaster. They were also a series of
embarrassments. Remember when they were going to put Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court? Remember when they were going to put Bernie Kerik in charge of Homeland Security? Remember that? Remember Bernie Kerik? Before he went to jail?

Remember when they trolled the reject list of interns from the
Heritage Foundation to find people to put in charge of a nation named Iraq? You, college student, the one who applied to be an intern, are you against abortion? Good, do you want to run the Iraqi stock exchange?

Do you remember soldiers in Iraq having to salvage hillbilly armor for
their Humvees from junkyards? Do you remember when Cher -- Cher, the celebrity, Cher -- had something called "Operation Helmet" because Bush and Cheney never got around to getting soldiers bullet proof helmets before they started the war? So Cher had to do it, instead. Seriously? Cher, she had to care of that because the government didn`t.

In the Bush/Cheney years, American`s approval rating among our allies dropped by 20 points, by 30 points, by 40 points, and those are the people that like us.

You know, there was the start of two of the longest wars in American
history. Both of which were started by the Bush administration, one of
which was started under false pretenses and both of which were still raging when they left. It was the drowning of a great American city during hurricane Katrina.

Remember mission accomplished? Remember 9/11, torture? Remember Armstrong Williams? Remember the presidential adviser caught shoplifting repeatedly from Target? Remember that guy?

Do you remember the vice president of the United States shooting a guy in the face?

There`s a reason George W. Bush left office in January 2009 with the
lowest approval rating for an outgoing president since Gallup started
asking that question back in the 1930s. And frankly, the vice president, Dick Cheney, would have killed to get numbers that high. His approval rating was 13 percent when he left office.

I mean, part of the headwind that John McCain had running in 2008,
trying to run as a Republican after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. I
mean, the country was happy to see them go for pretty understandable reasons.

So, now, four years after the Bush/Cheney administration, the new
Republican Party nominee, Mitt Romney, has made precisely zero public appearances with George W. Bush or Dick Cheney. And, you know, this is at a meta-level. This is still the most interesting thing in American politics, right?

I mean, the reconstruction of the Republican Party post-George W. Bush and post-Dick Cheney is as yet incomplete and it`s still the most interesting thing to watch at a meta-level in our politics. What`s the new Republican Party going to be after that?

I don't give a rat's arse if you like Maddow or not. Please tell us what is not factual in the above excerpt if you want to hold a b!tch session about it. But suffice it to say Cheney and his Military Industrial Complex of war profiteering via Halliburton is only more of the same we see with Romney.

  • 9 votes
#1.17 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

sandy,

It appears that you have been accidently reverted back to “new user” – cannot post links.

Contact Newsvine “Report Bug” and ask them to restore your standing if you wish to post links or grow your Vineacity tree.

http://www.newsvine.com/_nv/cms/info/contact

  • 6 votes
#1.18 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

Try reading the facts in Dennis's post.

Sandy,

This dum@!$%# is not hear to read & learn anything...

He is here for one purpose only and that is to agitate while attempting to knock people off message!

PS: I have been enjoying your comments! ☺

  • 12 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:23 PM EDT

So true Feisty.

  • 9 votes
#1.20 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:26 PM EDT

@ Dennis and Feisty

Thanks. I am not the best at typing.

However I can read and learn the facts.

I just wish the GOP would stick to their vote.

My husband served in the U.S. Navy for 25 years.

There is way too much waste it the military.

  • 10 votes
#1.21 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:36 PM EDT

And they ALL still refuse to compromise. It really p!sses me off that the people WE pay to represent US are only representing themselves, their respective parties and the special interest groups. Both sides of the aisle are acting like children fighting in a sand box. They think they know more and are better than the average citizen because they are in positions of power. Well, until I see the clothes disappear and magically reappear on their bodies or see them walk on water, I will continue to put self righteous people like that into what I call the Three P Category. They are nothing more than pimples on the pen!s of posterity. Screw them all. Vote them all out. Enough is enough. I'll be voting the alternative across the board this time, excluding the obligatory communist party candidate.

    #1.22 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

    Thanks. I am not the best at typing.

    No worries - we all have our days! ;o)

    • 7 votes
    #1.23 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

    Cheney was the only senator who voted for Reagan's Iran-Contra scheme. What does that tell you? Cheney and McCain -- They never saw a war they didn't like.

    • 9 votes
    #1.24 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

    True Patriot, I also remember the dismal appearance of the Veterans Hospital used by veterans in the DC and Northern Virginia. Shameful, yet Republicans fought any money for veterans or the VA.

    • 4 votes
    #1.25 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:55 PM EDT

    When you read the idiot posts of the libs on here you see why the country is going down the tubes. Why don't you people wake up? I know you think it is a badge of honor to be the worst person you can but stop it already.

      #1.26 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:17 PM EDT
      Reply

      Oh, this ought to be good! Any mention of Cheney and the liberals go apesh!t! ROFL It doesn't matter if what Cheney says makes sense, or is important to our country, liberals see the name Cheney and their natural course of action is insults, out right lies, and any number of long drawn out narratives that show how stupid the liberals really are

      • 6 votes
      Reply#2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

      The cuts are part of the Budget Control Act of 2011.

      Which the GOP voted for.

      Those are the facts.

      "no insults"

      Google Budget Control Act of 2011

      Remember raising the debt ceiling debate.

      • 10 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

      Again with the really bright name calling . . .

      President George W. Bush and his puppet-master/VP Dick Cheney were unanimously convicted of war crimes by a five panel tribunal

      Looks like you've got GOP amnesia too . . . .

      • 11 votes
      #2.2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

      Oh, this ought to be good! Any mention of Cheney and the liberals go

      apesht!

      Brian -

      I know, that Cheyney is such a great guy..LOL!!

      Oh well, He did shoot a lawyer. Gotta give him that...

      Obama/Biden 2012

      • 12 votes
      #2.3 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

      We only go after Cheney because he is a war criminal and has not done one thing that is positive for the American people. (Corporations are not people)

      • 9 votes
      #2.4 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

      Brian, find a job yet? Or are you still holding out for a "management position"...

      Well, here's one you might be interested in...I hear there will be an opening since Romney didn't like the way he held the chair:

      http://duckduckgrayduck.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/romney.jpg

      That would be something you could be good at...you know...instead of sucking at Mamma Gubment's teat like you do.

      • 6 votes
      #2.5 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:26 PM EDT

      Anyone who would side with Dick Cheney is the lowest form of life on the planet!

      • 10 votes
      #2.6 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

      Brian, find a job yet? Or are you still holding out for a "management position"...

      Mick - Do you think Brian could handle that position as NitMitt's "Chairman"? LOL!

      • 5 votes
      #2.7 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:38 PM EDT

      [Do you think Brian could handle that position as NitMitt's "Chairman"?]

      He probably could...I mean, it's such a SIMPLE task...but he won't get healthcare...Romney's suddenly against healthcare.

      • 7 votes
      #2.8 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

      Cheney left office with only a 13% approval rating. No one likes him.

      • 8 votes
      #2.9 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

      Goes to show how well you understand why TP. All you see is the low number and you think everyone disapproved of him for the same reason. Narrowminded and petty.

        #2.10 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:18 PM EDT

        Advice from Cheney, really, seriously? Lest voters forget, here is an excellent review (by Rachel Maddow) of the Lost Decade thanks in large part to Cheney:

        You know what was a really bad time? The George W. Bush presidency was a really bad time. And not just if you were a liberal and you disagreed with George W. Bush, just if you were an American.

        The George W. Bush presidency, the Bush/Cheney years were bad years for us as a country. The national unemployment rate went from a little over 4 percent when he took office to nearly 8 percent by the time that he left. We went from a budget surplus of more than $200 billion to a budget deficit of more than a trillion dollars.

        After decades of U.S. household income climbing during the 1980s and 1990s, household fell off a cliff during the Bush years. After poverty declined in the 1980s and declined in the 1990s, in the Bush years, poverty went up.

        By the time George W. Bush left office, 6 million more Americans were added to the rolls of Americans who did not have health insurance. Wall Street in the Bush years collapsed. The country was plunged into the worst depression since the Great Depression in the 1930s.

        The Bush/Cheney years were a disaster. They were also a series of embarrassments. Remember when they were going to put Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court? Remember when they were going to put Bernie Kerik in charge of Homeland Security? Remember that? Remember Bernie Kerik? Before he went to jail?

        Remember when they trolled the reject list of interns from the Heritage Foundation to find people to put in charge of a nation named Iraq? You, college student, the one who applied to be an intern, are you against abortion? Good, do you want to run the Iraqi stock exchange?

        Do you remember soldiers in Iraq having to salvage hillbilly armor for their Humvees from junkyards? Do you remember when Cher -- Cher, the celebrity, Cher -- had something called "Operation Helmet" because Bush and Cheney never got around to getting soldiers bullet proof helmets before they started the war? So Cher had to do it, instead. Seriously? Cher, she had to care of that because the government didn`t.

        In the Bush/Cheney years, American`s approval rating among our allies dropped by 20 points, by 30 points, by 40 points, and those are the people that like us.

        You know, there was the start of two of the longest wars in American history. Both of which were started by the Bush administration, one of which was started under false pretenses and both of which were still raging when they left. It was the drowning of a great American city during hurricane Katrina.

        Remember mission accomplished? Remember 9/11, torture? Remember Armstrong Williams? Remember the presidential adviser caught shoplifting repeatedly from Target? Remember that guy?

        Do you remember the vice president of the United States shooting a guy in the face?

        There`s a reason George W. Bush left office in January 2009 with the lowest approval rating for an outgoing president since Gallup started asking that question back in the 1930s. And frankly, the vice president, Dick Cheney, would have killed to get numbers that high. His approval rating was 13 percent when he left office.

        I mean, part of the headwind that John McCain had running in 2008, trying to run as a Republican after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. I mean, the country was happy to see them go for pretty understandable reasons.

        So, now, four years after the Bush/Cheney administration, the new Republican Party nominee, Mitt Romney, has made precisely zero public appearances with George W. Bush or Dick Cheney. And, you know, this is at a meta-level. This is still the most interesting thing in American politics, right?

        I mean, the reconstruction of the Republican Party post-George W. Bush and post-Dick Cheney is as yet incomplete and it`s still the most interesting thing to watch at a meta-level in our politics. What`s the new Republican Party going to be after that?

        I don't give a rat's arse if you like Maddow or not. Please tell us what is not factual in the above excerpt if you want to hold a b!tch session about it. But suffice it to say Cheney and his Military Industrial Complex of war profiteering via Halliburton is only more of the same we see with Romney.

        Just because Romney doesn't openly affiliate with Dubya (like Donald Trump is better?), doesn't mean he wouldn't be a sequel to the above--in fact on steroids. Most of Romney's team are from Dubya's administration. Been there, done that, don't need to do it again.

        FORWARD - Obama/Biden - 2012!

        (Sorry for the repeat but the Team Romney/Karl Rove Collapse Nazi's are out tonight.)

        • 3 votes
        #2.11 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:17 PM EDT
        Reply

        How did Count Dracula manage to go out in the daylight?

        This blood sucking parasite should be rotting in hell by now with a stake through that black heart of his!

        Of course the Dick war monger wants more defense spending, it's how he made his millions!

        • 14 votes
        Reply#3 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:01 PM EDT
        Comment author avatarRedSoxRuleExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        Fisty, you are funny. Obama being the executioner of numerous targets is ok with you though.

        LMAO

        Typical libby hypocrite.

        Why are you such a racist? Did something happen to you as a child?

        • 2 votes
        #3.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

        The Republicans are the proven racist.

        They the majority of the right wing don't love or even like Willard. They just see him as a possible tool to get rid of that darn black guy that is smarter than them all.

        • 11 votes
        #3.2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

        Is blood sucking parasite now a racist term?????? That's some funny stuff there RedSox!

        • 11 votes
        #3.3 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

        Fisty, you are funny. Obama being the executioner of numerous targets is ok with you though.

        Redsux -

        @!$%#in-A! The more the better.. O is gettin a job done that you pussy Repubes just couldn't handle. He's one bad-ass dude!!!!

        Give O a few drones and some terrorists to shoot at, and we won't have a need for Homeland Security any longer. Think of the money we'll save.

        Obama/Biden 2012

        • 12 votes
        #3.4 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:27 PM EDT

        Is blood sucking parasite now a racist term??????

        I know... right?

        In their feeding frenzies they have a tendency to get confused! lol

        • 11 votes
        #3.5 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:37 PM EDT
        Reply

        On the other side of the aisle, Majority Leader Harry Reid said it was Cheney's ties to Halliburton that were motivating his concerns over defense cuts.

        One little party with Mitt and all of a sudden Cheney thinks his advice is worthwhile???? Just another member of the Amnesiatic Party ... if they don't want to think about it, neither should anyone else!

        • 13 votes
        Reply#4 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

        This blood sucking parasite should be rotting in hell by now with a stake through that black heart of his!

        Hell already has his heart, they are waiting for the rest of him to show up.

        • 16 votes
        #4.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

        Majority Leader Harry Reid said it was Cheney's ties to Halliburton that were motivating his concerns over defense cuts.

        Ha! THis is the problem with the Republican Party, you never know if they support a policy because they think it's right for the country, or because their big donors direct them to do it. Was the Iraq War fought to overthrow Saddam, or to protect the profits of oil companies while enriching the companies supplying the troops? Republicans are thoroughly entangled in the military-industrial complex.

        • 13 votes
        #4.2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

        Hell already has his heart, they are waiting for the rest of him to show up

        I'm sure there is a very special place reserved for him!

        When that day finally arrives I will do a happy dance like never before!

        I have truly hated very few people in my life, however, this POS, is at the top of my list!

        The man is PURE EVIL & that daughter of his (Lizzard) is the spawn of Satan himself!

        • 11 votes
        #4.3 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

        Nah, Ol' Dick will be going to Limbo, Heaven won't accept him and Satan is afraid he will turn a hostile takeover!

        Of COURSE Cheney is against cutting his, I mean, the Military's budget, he has his fingers too deeply into that pie to ever let go.

        • 8 votes
        #4.4 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:06 PM EDT
        Reply

        Who in Wyoming rolled over that great big rock and let Dick Cheney out?

        • 13 votes
        Reply#5 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

        You don't have to roll over a rock. You just say his name three times, looking in a mirror on the night of a new moon...

        • 7 votes
        #5.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:20 PM EDT

        Scott and Angel ... PERFECT! Still laughing! :) I'm glad he keeps his butt in Wyoming ... we're full up of crazy here in Utah!

        • 6 votes
        #5.2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:56 PM EDT
        Reply

        Cheney was the perpetrator of one of the most ill-conceived and costliest wars of all time. Why does this abject failure even get a platform, and why would anyone think he has anything useful to say?

        • 13 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

        well, the Republicans are floating Condi Rice's name for VP, I guess the rehabilition of the Bush-era figures has begun.

        • 9 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

        Ames -

        I'll believe that when I see Bush and Cheney on the stage with the rest of the crowd in Tampa. In prime time. With the lights on.

        • 11 votes
        #6.2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

        Hope GW Bush shows up in his flight suit. He's so cute when he plays dress-up!

        • 11 votes
        #6.3 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:22 PM EDT
        Reply

        Cheney will always want increased military spending. He has been focused on financing Halliburton for years. As for outsourcing the military, that's been accomplished too (Halliburton again). Why not stop spending money on planes that don't work, and overpriced items and deal with the outrageous military spending (waste) that's there. Keep the personnel benefits and supports for the troops and their families. If the congress wants to cut spending, they can cut back on their own staff/travel/expense budgets and pay for their healthcare and pensions like the rest of us.

        • 7 votes
        Reply#7 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

        Cheney's only concern is that the war profiteers, including himself, will no longer ride the gravy train and make boatloads of money from the US taxpayers if the defense budget is cut. Our country spends more money on war and preparation for war than all of the rest of the world put together. Healthcare, education, family supporting jobs, caring for the elderly, decent infrastructure--sorry--we can't afford those things but we can sure afford unneeded implements of war. What a bloody foolish waste of resources! Just think of the great things we could do if we didn't pay for all this war mongering! You "conservatives" don't want your tax dollars to go to abortion--well, I don't want my tax dollars to support wars of choice! Why should you get consideration and others not?

        Do the Beatitudes say--"Blessed are the warmongers, for they shall be called the children of God"? I don't think so!

        "We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

        • 11 votes
        Reply#8 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

        "Cheney told Republicans, "You need to keep money flowing in predictable ways so you can plan for the next war."

        Yeah, because war is never about sacrifice or courage, or injury, or death, or valor, or principles, or right vs. wrong, or truth, or justice, or human rights or human lives.

        It's all about the cash flow - right, Dick?

        • 13 votes
        Reply#9 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:35 PM EDT

        Mitt Romney does not have to defend anything!!!

        OBAMA is the "incompetent" President that cannot defend his record

        Also, why would any American want to give more TAX money to an "incompetent"

        Democratically controlled Congress??

        • 1 vote
        Reply#10 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:37 PM EDT

        Put Romney in control of your taxes

        when you do not know how he does his.

        Great Plan.

        • 7 votes
        #10.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:06 PM EDT

        why would any American want to give more TAX money to an "incompetent" Democratically controlled Congress??

        We don't have a democratically controlled Congress. However, it would be nice to see Congress to eliminate all those tax payer funded coal subsidies along side all those Haliburton tax payer funded services.

        • 8 votes
        #10.2 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:14 PM EDT
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        Let's play a game of chicken - maybe the 99 percent don't give a rat's ___— about Iran - they aren't attacking us, they'd be attacking Cheney's interests. If the 1 percent wants to protect their sorry a__es, then they can pay for the military with the tax increase. The rest of us just might take the bet the Iran's missiles won't fire, won't reach their targets and/or provoke Israel to transform their landscape into a sheet of nuclear glass.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#11 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:01 PM EDT

        It is time for us to stop supporting wars that are caused specifically for Corporate Profits. We had Iraq contained, Heavy duty no-fly zones and their major ground forces decimated, they could not have attacked anyone near them, let alone us or Israel if they wanted to. The ONLY reasons we attacked were for the oil (remember the first name of the coalition: Operation Iraqi Liberation, or OIL Anyone?, very quickly changed when they realized that they were telegraphing their intentions) and the unlimited billions in No Bid Contracts specifically for, Oh My, Dick Cheney's very own Halliburton, which Whitehouse Staffers told reporters that he never did let go the reigns of that company, running it even as V.P.

        Besides, why are we being upset that Iran MIGHT develop the Bomb, and yet we say nothing at all about the nation most likely to make a first strike, as they have several times, and that being Israel who has at least 400 of the damn things, and refuses to admit to the world that they do, and is NOT signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty as Iran is?

        Could it really be all the OIL that Iran controls?? Could it be that all of the war profiteers see HUGE, long term profits from such a war? Could it be that the importance of CORPORATE Profits have risen well above actual Defense and our own, legitimate National NEEDS. Our Military is here to DEFEND us, not to go out and defend corporations profits nor to steal the resources of other Nations so that our Corporations can move in and control and profit from them, yet that is EXACTLY how the GOP has used our military, time and time and time again!

        To let Cheney, the war criminal, financial criminal and who held back the Air Force from stopping the terrorists on 9/11, give advice on ANYTHING is to let the devil himself in on your doings, and if Romney is that stupid then he deserves to hang with the rest of em!

        • 5 votes
        #11.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:25 PM EDT
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        Hey "RedSoxRule" it is truly embarrasing that you are a Red Sox fan along with the rest of us. Sure you're not cloak & dagger "YankeesRule" ?

        • 3 votes
        Reply#12 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:15 PM EDT

        Mr Cheney -

        Please, for the sake of all republicans, do us all a favor, if you dont mind too much.

        Take the hint from President Bush, and just be quiet for several more years - like about 20 or 25 years.

        You are only poisoning the well, and making things harder for republicans, not easier. You fail to understand how widely disliked you are, for various reasons, and can not seem to understand that every time you open your mouth publicly, you only make it worse.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#13 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:33 PM EDT

        Why hide Cheney when the very policies of Cheney are the ones Romney wants to bring back.

        Romney has hired back most of bush's old advisers and Romney's plan is like bush's bigger tax cuts for Romney, Cheney and their rich friends and a war with Iran now.

        What a con job by the republicans. The rich are doing fine, but let's give them even more tax cuts for the jobs they didn't create.

        More con. The surcharge on millionaires second million to create jobs will cause irreparable harm to the millionaires. Somehow the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to buy the election for the republicans is not hurting the millionaires one bit. In fact the republicans are bragging of record halls.

        Think about it hundreds of millions to buy elections and not one dime for jobs.

        So were the republicans just pushing a phony story to protect the rich and didn't care about the American people and the republicans were purposely trying to keep the economy down?

        I just wanted to point out that President Obama is working to raise his own taxes for a better America for all and Romney is working to lower his taxes and take food out of the mouths of children. Which one do you think is more American?

        • 4 votes
        #13.1 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:04 PM EDT
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        I am willing to bet that the Pentagon will not see the deep cuts as agreed to in the Budget Control Act of 2011. Congress controls the purse strings and they will find a way around the Act. Just like Obama refuses to enforce some laws, congress can do the same thing.

          Reply#14 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:28 PM EDT

          Although the US has the strongest military ever seen on this planet Cheney wants it built up and not cut. Fascists love military and Cheney fits there. If we cut as little as one third of our military budget (including black projects) we will still have more than enough money in the Defence Department than we really need and all that money could go to reducing te deficit. Remember Cheney worked for Halliburton, a company that benefitted greatly from the Iraq war.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#15 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

          threats like Iran.

          Another example how to bring fear to the people in this country. Thank goodness two term limits exist for the President, and this a$$hole is old and feeble.

          500 billion over 10 years Einstein is 50 billion a year.

          I wish no ill-will toward Mr. Cheney, but would prefer he just remain retired and out of the public.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#16 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:25 PM EDT

          So where was Cheney when these same Republicans agreed to these cuts?

            Reply#17 - Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:41 PM EDT

            Mr. Cheney, go back to sleep, or we will turn your battery off on your ticker.

            Nobody gives a rip what you think, as you are big on your boy Mr. Romney after you have help rattle our swords here in the U.S. on our military service people.

            Here is the big reason you or anybodys should not push for Mr. Romney for any office;

            Military Members, Veterans, Military retirees;

            please note that Swiss Bank account Romney PROMOTED THE DRAFT during the Viet Nam War,

            then skipped out to France for extraordinary length of time when church missionary tours were limited.

            When Romney came home, he sided with his dad that the whole Viet Nam War was a scam and that he was against the war.

            Promoting the draft, while Americans were dying, he skipped out, then says he wishes he could have participated. His whole life has been a lie.

            Romney is a COWARD, Lying, Draft Dodger, who promoted someone else to die for him, that is his way of management.

            Some may want anyone but Obama, but this guy ranks with Jane Fonda and should not be given anything or elected for anything.

            For those who are not old enough to remember the military draft, it was a mandatory commitment for two years that was implemented during the Viet Nam War. If your number was called, you went and served like it or not. Young people may say, I wouldn't go and they can't make me, think again.

            This is what Romney promoted as if he were a "responsible citizen", then he left his fellow citizens to serve and some died for us and him. I am ashamed of him as I am retired military member, and forget about representing our country Mr. Romney.

            I am one of the Military members who are against Romney, and appose his bid for president.

              Reply#18 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:16 AM EDT

              Could it have anything to do with things like this. Iraq war reconstruction: $6 billion to $8 billion wasted, US official says

                Reply#19 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:41 AM EDT

                I think the military should not be cut, but not given any more either. I think we need to get rid of Haliburton and other like contractors and return to the service men doing the job that these private and crooked agencies are doing and at the same time training men and women and also where the money is accountable, not given away and liklely horded by Cheney and his other cronies. Cheney and Bush privatized the military, more so, but actually started way back during Eisenhowers time. I think it needs to return to the service people doing the work not contracting out. that would make Haliburton and Cheney upset, which is a good thing

                • 1 vote
                Reply#20 - Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:33 AM EDT
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