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IRWIN, PA -- Mitt Romney sought Tuesday to pivot to offense versus President Obama with a fiery speech at a rally here accusing the president of "crony capitalism" and a fundamental misunderstanding of business.
After having spent nearly a week on the defensive over his refusal to release more than two years of tax returns and amid a barrage of criticism of his tenure at Bain Capital, Romney ripped into what he said was a telling remark about Obama's view of government.
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Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney arrives on stage before speaking at a campaign rally at Horizontal Wireline Services July 17 in Irwin, Pa.
The president said Friday at a campaign event that, "If you’ve got a business, you did not build that -– somebody else made that happen," in a larger monologue about the importance of government support for business.
"That somebody else is government in his view. He goes on to describe the people who deserve the credit for building this business and, of course, he describes people who we care very deeply about who make a difference in our lives, Romney said, referencing teachers, firefighters and other public workers.
"But you know, we pay for those things, alright; the taxpayers pay for government. It's not like government just provides those to all of us and we say oh thank you government for doing those things no in fact we pay for them and we benefit for them and we appreciate the work that they do and the sacrifices that are done by people who work in government," Romney added. "But they did not build this business."
The presumptive GOP nominee then launched into a list of historic American entrepreneurs to prove his point. Those figures, Romney argued, built their empires through their own efforts.
"The idea to say that Steve Jobs didn’t build Apple. That Henry Ford didn’t build Ford motor," Romney said, continuing to list other prominent American companies. "To say something like that is not just foolishness, it’s insulting to every entrepreneur, every innovator in America, and it’s wrong."
Buoyed by a crowd of roughly 1,000 supporters here in a deeply Republican part of the state, Romney came out swinging this afternoon, hitting the president with a charge of "crony capitalism," in the case of Fisker automotive.
"I'm ashamed to say that we're seeing the president hand out money to the businesses of campaign contributors. When he gave money -- $500 million dollars in loans to a company called Fisker that makes high-end electric cars -- and they make the cars now in Finland, that is wrong, and it has got to stop," Romney said. "That kind of crony capitalism does not create jobs and it does not create jobs here. I believe in free people and free markets and I want government to get out of investing in individual businesses."
Democrats have often pointed out Romney entered into similar partnerships during his tenure as governor of Massachusetts.
Romney once again invoked former Democratic President Bill Clinton in attacking Obama in an effort to drive a wedge between Obama and more centrists Democrats and independents who supported Clinton but may not be enamored with this president's policies, which Romney called "extraordinarily foreign."
"What he is saying is his justification for a larger and larger government," Romney said, pivoting to attack the president's health care plan. "This is very different by the way than the Democratic party of Bill Clinton, that said that the era of big government was over. That reformed welfare -- you heard that story by the way -- he is trying to take work out of welfare requirement. It is changing the nature of America, changing the nature of what Democrats have fought for and Republicans have fought for."
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There are now more people signing up for disability insurance than are finding new jobs. This is the Obama economy.
Obama is trying to get people used to 8.2% unemployment as the norm. It doesn't have to be.
Obama is ruining this country. We need to remove him now!
His policies are driving us over a fiscal cliff.
He has no talent and no experience.
His Marxist plans are destroying America.
Stop Obama's war on capitalism, his war on America, his war on the middle class, his race baiting, and his class warfare!!
The amateur in the white house needs to go.
Why isn't this President running on his record?
Hell he passed Healthcare, Got the Stimulus and saved GM.
Why isn't he running ong on all those accomplishmnets?
Let's see:
Most don't want Obamacare.
The stimulus was a failure.
GM stock is down to $19/share, meaning the taxpayers are into GM for about $30 Billion dollars right now.
Yeah, I guess I'd lie if I were Obama, too.
If you listened to something other than NewsforDumbFux & Limpballs, you would be aware he talks about all of that at every campaign stop!
Do try to keep up you little ditto-head!
PS: President Obama loves calling the ACA "ObamaCare' because unlike RWNJ's he really does care!
Gov. Romney just gave the democrats a hard lesson in professional boxing -- ala Muhammad Ali. Absorb all the punches then when the "amateur" opponent drops his guard and leaves an opening - - - WHAM!!!!!! It will be fun to watch the president crumble to the mat like George Foreman.
Ohhhh, I see the nasty name calling is coming out. A lesson in life to you -- if you want respect you need to show respect. Ahh the sign of desperation. I love it. LOL.
Holy Crap, Feisty!
Did you take a break and RedSux sneaked up on ya'? (or is it snuck up on ya'?)
Don't want you getting 'fired' from your cushy MSNBC desk job.
bwaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
How utterly absurd.
I was just reading how the Obama's have over $400k personally invested in companies that offshore workers.
Oh my.
WCA - Uh, I kinda think even Obama knows 1.1%, and freshly revised downward is so bad even the Feistys and Amys will recognize it.
Well, ok maybe not those tow, but certainly the AnnaMolleys and Steeler Fans.
Speaking of which, we sure don't see much of AM after the butt hurt Walker laid on them Wisc. libbies.
Too bad.
The context of the Roanoke, VA speech you refer to – notice, I clarified the meaning in “( )” for those, like Mr. Romney, that don’t understand what the “that” is referring to:
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that (unbelievable American system). Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia
Oh and WCA I was also reading about how the Cruze is such a POS GM is losing thousands of dollars on each car.
And how the motor press tried to prop it up, but it is such a turgid POS they could not.
I continue to be amazed that none of the domestic can replicate even an Accord. Not asking for an S550 or 750 IL, but come on.
You can say that again. The Weather Vane, FUX Snooze and Limpy only believe that the 1% should have a say our country's trajectory.
Obama/Biden 2012 anything else is just crap.
Doesn't seem like the Libs here have much time to try to understand 1.1% GDP, 8.2% Unemployment, etc, etc Spanky.
They seem to be fixated on Dogs, Horses and Islands.
To bad really.
The rest of the country id still waiting for that recovery summer they were promised 3 years ago.
Funny thing is Dennis that most new businesses fail.
So were is the 'we do things together' BS then?
See Dennis it's a big risk to start something from scratch, and it's against long odds. So when we hear it really isn't us that succeeded we tend to get a tad pissy.
Then again I'd suspect you'd understand if you were in the club, eh Dennis?
Dennis - you start up any business? You responsible for making payroll every week/month?
Ain't no one around to help out with that Dennis.
But then again, not like Obama has any knowledge, skill, or training in business, startups, or running a business.
Nope he runs an entity that creates $4 billion in new debt every single day.
Wow, just wow.
Dennis, don't you ever get tired of making excuses for the President.
Why don't you just take what he said at face value and try to defend it?
Hell Feisty did.
She claimed that if it wasn't for employees and customers, small businesses wouldn't exist.
Now that is what I call a brilliant economic mind!
Funny how the greatest orator, speaker, presenter of our time . . . . . . . . . . . . needs Dennis to clarify???? What am I missing?? LOL.
Actually, I've read the transcripts of a few. Obama talks about when he first ran for state Senate, and were he traveled, who he met, what he learned, ..... talking about his grandparents, what they did, what they taught him ... his mother ... Michelle, her parents - her brother ... his realizations, middle class, the basic bargain ... how he is a champion for the middle class .... how he gets up everyday thinking of them and fighting for them .... blah blah blah.
One speech, Obama mentioned himself every 13 seconds ... he won't / can't talk about his record because his record is so pathetic.
The guy has nothing.
Anyway, happy ankle humping Betty.
What a joke. Comparing Romney to Ali is such a slam to Ali. He actually had some talent in his field. Romney has no talent at all. He just keeps throwing all the has beens out there to scream and yell insults for him. But, he is constantly looking more and more absurd.
RedSox - you know when you post the marxist stupidity we all know your post is totally worthless and filled with ignorance, right? Yet you continue with that drivel. Amazing!
WCA - you wouldn't know brilliance if it bit you on the butt!
Obama/Biden 2012
PS: President Obama loves calling the ACA "ObamaCare' because unlike RWNJ's he really does care
That's an interesting take. Just last week when Romney called the ACA "Obamacare" at the NAACP Meeting lefties on this vine and no other than Lawrence O'Donnell said Romney and his supporters were all Racists for using the word Obamacare instead of ACA.
Rocky to Clubber: You ain't so bad champ.
Apollo to Paulie: He's getting killed out there.
Paulie to Apollo: No he ain't. He's getting mad.
RockyRomney toClubberObama: You ain't so bad champ.Apollo to Paulie:
He'sRomney's getting killed out there.Paulie to Apollo: No he ain't.
He'sRomney's getting mad.Me thinks someone -- the president -- is punching himself out.
"The context of the Roanoke, VA speech"
The real context of the Roanoke speech was that Obama believes Big Government is like the local Mafia used to be....they have to get a piece of the action... No one can succeed or fail on their own, they have a , um, "partner" in Big Government...whethe rthey like it or not
"You didnt do this yourslef, we helped you...and you better play ball with us, or else Vinny (in Obama's case, the IRS) is gonna mess you up real good..
These Romney campaign workers are turning out to be the biggest dolts. I suppose in a way it is giving them points, but don't any of them remember what they said in other campaigns, here we have Ed Gillespie who in 2004 was RNC chairman, demanding that John Kerry release 20 years worth of tax returns and then went after Teresa Kerry who files her own tax returns. What a hypocrite!
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/17/530951/top-romney-spokesperson-urged-kerrys-presidential-campaign-to-release-more-tax-returns-in-2004/
In another flub yesterday, they had to take down the ad they rushed to produce, to try to offset the devasting ad the Obama campaign made showing Mitt singing "America the Beautiful" and used a portion of the President singing at a fund raiser "I'm so in love with you" which is copywrite material. Every day they trip over themselves.
Bob,
Should I send your comments to Gov. John Kasich (R) since he started a new billion dollar agency to help new businesses get started and any businesses that are relocating to Ohio?
RedSox -
Wouldn't it be cool that if the person who posted that actually understood what Marxism actually is, what it would look like, what Obama has done ... and could debate the issue?
Btw - Check out "As A Teen, Obama Deeply Influenced By Communist Mentor" in IBD. Seems grandpa hooked little Barry up with a card carrying commie mentioned throughout the Obama books.
GM - that's really an insult to the dolts! Romney's campaign is running blind - trying to find an alley they haven't been in and spoiled. Not too many left.
bob-180.... I totally understand Marxism and don't need to debate it since it has nothing to do with Obama. See how that works? Too bad you don't have a clue but choose to throw out words you think will frighten the less educated. After, all, that's all the far right has.
Obama/Biden 2012
It's the height of hipocracy for Obama minions to suggest Romney is a felon when Obama handed his buddy at Fisker MILLIONS of dollars of taxpayer money for campaign contributions.
Reminds me of Diane Wilkerson, a former MA state legislator that got bagged stuffing payoff money in her bra.
I wonder where Obama stuffed his payoff money. Maybe Crazy Joe Biden was on to something when he talked about Obama's big stick.
Who's the Felon?
Time for Romney to get in there and clear out all these criminals.
Maybe WCA, RSR and others would like to explain why Mitt Romney isn't running on his record as Governor of MA, and rarely mentions Bain expect to say he ran a successful business and then runs as fast as he can from it. If the right wants to demand substance from a candidate, they should be asking Mitt Romney because every speech I've heard President Obama give he has talked about what he has done as President. The only thing Mitt talks about is President Obama; and Willard never gives specifics on what he will do beyond repeal Obam-NeyCare.
His name is Frank Marshall Davis.
I see all the FR RWNJ's are out in force today. Even the village idiot got to post first...
How ya doing fellows?
Obama/Biden 2012
Yea, and the Miami Heat tried to attract Lebron James and get him to re-locate.
And look today .... thanks for those wonderful concrete roads in Miami ... Lebron is a world champion!
I wonder if Romney will not release his tax returns until AFTER the convention. Does this mean there is something in them which would PREVENT his nomination ?
Is he really a US citizen, or did he state otherwise on his tax returns ?
It looks like the RWNJs without jobs are on the board today or is it just a bunch of trolls and flamers?
Bob, you do know, or would know if you did research, real research instead of listening to FOX and Limbaugh propaganda, that there are fewer government employees today than ever. You would also know that Obama's spending is the lowest since Eisenhower ended the Korean war. But sticky little facts seem to cloud the simple mind don't they. You certainly would know that as you know, or profess to know, all about what "lefty's" are thinking while expressing your thoughts for all to see and hear. Sure some "lefties" may be more vocal and open to interpretation but the RWNJs on this board are open, all of them. How foolish they seem to be parroting the latest talking points from Lord Limbaugh to his minions.
That's okay, unlike Willard who whines when someone comments about him, we can take it as can our President. It was Democrat Harry Truman who said, "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Mr. Romney turn in your apron you apparently are having difficulty with how things are in the kitchen of real politics. Stop whining, you spoiled little wimp.
Fine.
Good to see you still humping your little blow-up baby elephant!
Btw - What about seepingsanity .... what ever happened to that important "teacher" in her life?
BTW: likening ultra-white Willard Mitt Romney to MOHAMMED ALI ?
That is almost like likening the Grand Dragon of the KKK to Martin Luther King, Jr.
And look today .... thanks for those wonderful concrete roads in Miami ... Lebron is a world champion
Hussein better start paving a lot more roads.
The numbers are in and his Chevy Volt is costing us big time.
Hey Obama you are no Henry Ford.
Oh, he's sharpening his tone is he? Try pulling your big boy pants up first Romney, and stop crying like a school girl for an apology.
Some time back when Romney was tagged for claiming he started a company, he stopped for a while, but now that media attention on this has died down he is back at it. Bill Bain started Bain Capital a year before Romney came on board! Romney did not risk anything--no capital, nor job security, or even his reputation. And regardless of the handful of companies that survived Bain's corporate raiding versus the many more that went under, the bottom line is Romney profited 100% of the time--often with use of taxpayer funds.
Romney doesn't say much about the Olympics anymore, and for good reason. He jumped on the chance to use his connections in Utah to resurrect his political career. Then he did some wheeling and dealing with Bain Capital (which supposedly he left) to apply pressure on companies like Staples for corporate sponsorship. The Olympics weren't even over before Romney was campaigning for governor in Massachusetts. Everything has been a stepping stone for him and that's all.
There's a rightwing chain Email (is there any other kind?) that even claims Romney is completely transparent (unlike the president-ha) including his tax returns! The Bermuda story is much more relevant than folks realize -- Romney put this in Ann's name the day before he was sworn in as governor.
And then in an attempt to appear not to be a "tax hiker," he increased regressive fees and caused sales tax and city taxes to go up to compensate -- Regressive meaning on the backs of the middle class/working poor. Also, Massachusetts would have ranked even lower in jobs if so many people hadn't moved out of the state. Not very different from Sarah Palin, Romney was absent the last two years as governor campaigning for president. Then on his way out, Romney took the hard drives with him.
Mitt's father George Romney said that only one year's tax returns could be a "fluke." Like blind trusts aren’t really “blind,” Romney knows full well that he is presenting a "fluke" tax return because he, unlike any other politician in history, has money offshore including a Swiss bank account. The reason Romney did not accept pay as governor is the same reason he contributes speaking fees to charity -- Because EARNED INCOME would make him pay more than a 13% tax rate. As for 10% of the 19% he gives to charity, this is tithing the same as all Mormons pay.
Unfortunately Mitt only learned the wrong things from his parents -- Who should have forced him to make his own way so that now he would be his own person. Legal is not the same as ethical or moral. A candidate can cheat on his wife who is dying from cancer, and that is not illegal. But do we want this candidate to be POTUS, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world? No.
Character matters. Romney -- He's not in it for you.
Good to see you still humping your little blow-up baby elephant!
Are you jealous that nobody wants to hump you, Cup-cake?
Hey, Maybe Rob in Mass, or Spanky will bend ya over for a good one? Or better yet, maybe Vag-Bob will give ya a good probing....
Obama/Biden 2012
Great Post Red Sox! Most of America already knows your post is true. Let's vote for change in 2012!
Dirp I like comparing ali to obama. They both had the rhetoric, but only ali could deliver.
RedSuxReTurd and the crazy old Marxism charge,
I bet none of the folks throwing out their fake out rage can name a case in which the Roanoke speech by the President was not correct.
You Can't.
Romney in control of your taxes
when we do not know how he does his?
Great Plan.
I read today that taxes are the lowest for the top 20% (income earners) than they have been in the last 30 years. Are we sure Obama is a democrat?? LOL
Obama/Biden 2012
Or even a cabinet position, like being the head of the treasury -- Romney couldn't get confirmed for this without providing a sh!t load more information and transparency. And yet he really thinks he can run for POTUS, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world like this? WTF?!
Folks, you really should stop deliberately misquoting Ms. Cutter!.....
Based on some of the posts, the TeaPeople (RWNJs) obviously believe that Willard was misrepresenting his position at Bain!
The message has already been hi-jacked.
Check back tomorrow, see if 'Romney tax returns' is still trending.
Romney is trying to change the subject, but I don't think it will work.
He's been out-maneuvered/cornered on the returns.
Until he releases them, it will be the biggest impetus.
I know the GOP Senate would demand more information for confirmation.
The GOP voters do not seem to want any information.
The GOP voters want him in control of their taxes?
Adled -
Wow, I was going to mention that the number of federal employees is up 11%, that yea, state and local government employees are down because the states can't print money like Obama and the people have wised up to insane spending ... but Obama has the fewest "government employees today than ever?"
Wow ... you are adled.
Are you kidding me?
Eisenhower's highest deficit spending as a per centage of GDP (the real measurement) was -2.6%.
Obama's deficit spending as a percentage of GDP is -10.1%, -9%, -8.7%.
Eisenhower's spending as a percentage of GDP averaged 18.06%.
Obama's spending as a percentage of GDP averages 24.7%!
Those numbers are THE worst since WWII!
The above numbers are from Obama's OMB.
Ahh ... we can take it.
It's just disappointing libs take it out of the cooking in the kitchen and reduce it to a zoo monkey slinging crap contest ... but then again ... what else can the zoo monkeys do - certainly can't cook?
No, No, No Dem4freedom. The CBO (that non-partisan government arm) said that in 2008 and 2008, 94% of the income taxes in this country were paid by only 20% of the taxpayers.
And when you fail, it's all on you. But at least you can get food stamps.
I agree let's pivot and talk about REAL Issues...
Hey there bat sh-t crazy left wing nut jobs...
Let's talk about REAL issues like the fact that more people went on disability then found new jobs in the last three months... let's talk about REAL issues not some bullsh-t bain stuff that factcheck.org has said "Obama stretched the truth" about, In other words he lied!!
Let's talk REAL issues like the Chey Volt is losing money and costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars per car... ya know REAL issues like Obamacare costing taxpayers 1.76 trillion dollars versus 900 billion(another lie?) when fully implemented. Hell just look around there are all kinds of REAL issues to talk about like JOBS, JOBS,JOBS or the overall health of the economy!!
We all know why you don't want to talk about REAL issues is because Obama is a disaster PERIOD and there's no spin that can change that!!
One can't emphasize this enough. Romney is running in large part on his tax policies, which are to take the Bush tax cuts and put these on steroids to give even more tax cuts to the rich. Imagine that? Crony Capitalism at it's best.
But without a doubt, Romney wouldn't even get Senate confirmation for a cabinet position. Yet the bobble-head rightwingers will support him anyway.
bob-180.... you know your stupidity is only overshadowed by your total disgusting persona. You are truly a pathetic excuse for a person but I guess that makes you a valuable Republican. The lower the level of the person the better the Republican.
I hope you don't have children or any influence over any children. Your filth and stupidity would have a totally adverse effect on any young impressionable person.
Your lack of intelligence and gutter filth is totally outside the realm of what any human being should be subjected to. Your disgusting "values" should not be inflicted on any normal person.
The mental midgets of the right are totally out of control as your post shows.
Go crawl back under your rock. The other snakes are waiting for you!
Obama/Biden 2012
Just think Snuffy...
Thanks to ObamaCare, your next stint in rehab may be "on the house"!
From the sound of you, it may be sooner than later GF! ;o)
Ben-636050,
Those 20% of taxpayers who paid 94% of FEDERAL income taxes paid a smaller percentage of their income in total taxes, and probably have more than 94% of our country's wealth.
Gosh ... I innocently mention crap slinging zoo monkeys to Adled ....
And then ...... there are SeepingSanity and Red ....
My bad.
bob - you're a lowlife and your posts show it. You know this is a public site and you chose to be disgusting. But, it shows exactly the kind of excuse for a human being you truly are. But, hey, that makes you a great Republican - scraping the bottom of the barrel is the GOP high road.
Oddly enough that pretty much is normal and not a number to be comparing with jobs at all. :) 85K monthly is pretty average.
When you read something question it, when you question it go look to see what the facts are, when you find out the facts you'd see it's BS shell game with numbers and you'd feel stupid for even bringing it up.
Here, read up. I dare you to become smarter.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/disability/disability.html
This election should be a no-brainer. Obama is the most divisive President in decades and is totally ineffective. And was it yesterday that he said if you are rich, you didn't get there by yourself? Once again he tries to split this nation down lines of class, just as he has done down lines of race. I'm not rich, but am surviving as a business owner and I have nobody to thank except myself. Hard work and a desire to make a better life for myself and my family is only a bad thing in the eyes of our fascist President and those of his followers that are expecting to live off the backs of the rest of us.
No, that would be Bush, and I agree that's a no-brainer. :)
Jeff, Those like you will be blaming Bush for the pimples on your okole until the day you die. I'm not a fan of President Bush, but you've got to be brainwashed to believe Bush was divisive as the incompetent President we have in the White House now.
Hey Feisty -
How do you like my new toy?
Couldn't get through to her, huh?
Obamanation: "clearly" the worst president ever... Undignified and unproven allegations... class warfare... racism... socialist agenda... government runs everything... and... Just a lying hoodlum with no conscience.
Seeking Sanity, why don't you tell that to Feisty and the rest of the haters on the left, including the guy you see when you look at a mirror, that post on this board? What a hypocrite you are!
Some people just need a hosing to wake up.
Great! Third post in and Feisty is already calling names! I guess that's all she has since her messiah has no record to run on. Or could it be that she is simply imitating her hero by blaming anybody and everybody for his
dismalabysmal performance?Oh, wait, he does have an accomplishment! He managed to get 1 kiss out of 2 off of Michelle.
If folks are signing up for disability, you can thank the GOP/Bush-era policies for the Lost Decade that has destroyed an entire generation of baby boomers. The younger generations too, but they have time ahead of them. Sadly, the repercussions will be long lasting.
TruePatriot
So 5.25% Unemployment and a 3.9% GDP for 8 years was a Lost Decade??
What would you call 9.1% Unemployment and a 2.2% GDP for 2 3/4 years?
Re-post:
The years of peace and prosperity under Bill Clinton are what folks want to return to. But the older workers hurt by the Lost Decade at a time when they should have had peak earnings, should have been able to build assets, and prepare for retirement -- some who may never reenter the job market, and if so, not with the compensation they deserve -- will NEVER get that decade back.
Ahhh, Bob. You just never want to mention George W. Bush, do you? And I am not sure where your numbers come from.
From Politifact:
For spending as a percent of GDP, the ranking from low to high is Eisenhower (18.1 percent of GDP), Johnson (18.7 percent), Nixon (19.2 percent), George W. Bush (19.6 percent), Clinton (19.8), Carter (20.8), George H.W. Bush (21.9), and Reagan (22.4).
Bob -
The numbers above are total spending... my Bad!
But I like your shift from deficit spending to total spending as percent of GDP. In actuality, Bush ran about 20%, Obama is running about 14% AND dealing with Bush's legacy of Recession.
EE -
Yea, it is a more accurate picture, huh?
Wrong again.
Obama's "revenue" is running 14% of GDP (actually it has run around 15%.) .
Obama's "outlays" are running 24% of GDP.
Might want to try OMB, Historical Tables, Table1.3 instead of politico.
AND dealing with Bush's legacy of Recession.
RedSoxRule
Your post has just as much BS in it as Romney's speech. All you people have are misquotes and hate innuendo... it's pretty easy to see right through your fallacies (called Republican fantasies).
The truth is that the list of Bush and follow-on GOP f#$%kups are long and real and Americans will not forget them anytime soon...
Romney claims that Obama doesn't understand "business"... this coming from a man who's view of business is so out of touch and myopic that he wouldn't recognize a small business and their hardships if it hit him in the face.
You see, in a Romney world all problems are solved by tapping into your Cayman Islands account. In the real world personal plight goes hand-in-hand with your ability to start and/or support business. Try running a business with no money... not even in Romney's eyes.
So all Romney has to change the conversation against his taking millions out of this economy and refusing to release tax returns?... misquote Obama and act all insulted... how f@#$king clever! Wow, he's got me convinced!
What an idiot.
Was that what all the finger wagging was about? lmao!
Funny stuff right there!
I do so enjoy watching the audience behind him & counting how many *yawns* per minute...
I got a "bonus" today with one of the white guys behind him actually dozing off..
Meanwhile Dems are begging the Fed to print more money:
Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., exhorted Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke to stimulate the economy before November through some form of quantitative easing or other monetary policy, which Bernanke said could create jobs.
“Despite two false starts, we’re having a much rougher time than we ever imagined getting unemployment down,” Schumer told the Senate Banking Committee. “So get to work, Mr. Chairman.” -The Examiner
Romney is simply not nimble enough to 'pivot',...
He probably only knows the Prep School version anyway,...
Bwaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha
Fisty, why are you such a racist?
I have yet to hear the "governor" say anything of substance. He has no record to run on as governor, and is afraid to be honest with us about his business record. He only grants interviews to fox. This man has nothing to offer this country except for more of the same old policies. Obama has knocked him back on his heels, and he is trying as hard as he can to not let us know who he really is or what he really stands for. This lack of information speaks for itself. He would finish the middle class off once and for all if he were ever to take the oath, which he would immediately violate. He would only be there for the wealthiest Americans, who don't need anyone's help.
Hiya Clara!
Speaking of pivot - I see the 'pivot-man' for the right wing circle jerk is ^.. lol
PISS-OFF penguin-boy!
Wayne -- You apparently are not doing research for yourself and just taking the left talking points and distorted views from thinkprogress, media matters et. al. I could provide you incredible links (if I thought it was worth my time) to show you that the president would probably kill to have Gov. Romney's record to run on. But the left only want to bring up the things that went wrong and not what went right which is overall a great record for MA.
If the governor was on his heels, it was just a tactic. This gaffe (a real insight into socialist thinking) is the president's John Kerry moment. This is the body shot that will open the head. Down goes Obama, Down goes Obama, Down goes Obama.
Ben - your even trying to make Mitt Romney sound remotely like a candidate or intelligent is almost laughable - if it wasn't so sad. Mitt couldn't make a body shot if someone held the other person for him (and that IS his style, isn't it - the bully style). He's inept and no one can even stand to hear him talk.
He's become the joke of politicians and his "crowds" are countable. So sad. So Republican. So Romney!
Obama/Biden 2012
Hi Ya all, on Vacation, however things are looking up here on a 5 day cruise.
Could not help myself and see what was going on in FR. I find that the Beasty Beast Feisty is still insulting as ever. Tell me lefties, why is GM outsourcing so many jobs and projects to China? Oh I forgot The president has a good friend in Jeffrey. I will take Romney any time over our President any time.
So long, back to having a good time.
I've yet to hear the "govenor" talk about any thing he did when he was "govenor".
Can't run fast enough from that record, although you wont be able to convince any fuxnews view that.
Feisty is having a meltdown...better now than when Obama loses in November....that 's right, let your rage out, you will feel better.
@Seeking -- You have your opinion and your observations and I respect them. But there are many -- count me as one -- that believe Gov. Romney is becoming a more formidable candidate/opponent all the time. He is surviving these vicious attacks -- winning independents as a result -- and staying very close (ahead in some) in the polls. If all you said were how others truly did believe/feel, then this wouldn't even be close in the polls now. That's only a logical conclusion IMHO.
Ben: are you equating President Obama telling a crowd that businesses did not succeed by themselves to these Romney classics:
"Corporations are people, my friend."
"I don't care about the very poor."
Ben - Romney is NOT winning Independents. I'm a registered Independent and know many. Not ONE believes a word that comes out of Romney's mouth. He is winning no one but is constantly making it harder and harder for people of his own party to vote for him. I know Republicans who are planning to stay home and not vote because they can't - with a clear conscience - pull a lever for Romney.
You can believe what you want but, if Romney was winning ANYONE over the polls would show it. No one can get excited about him. As the campaigns move forward and more and more of his dirty laundry comes out, fewer will be willing to waste a vote on this nothing of a candidate.
The more he counts on the nastiness of Karl Rove, etc., the more he will lose the backing of decent people. And, he doesn't have the backing of young people at all. The GOP party line of hate for everyone who isn't in lock-step with the far right doesn't play well with young people.
That's the only logical conclusion. IMHO
Whats the old saying...
The only way Romney loses this election is if he's found with a dead girl or a live boy.
Obama is toast. He used 29 BILLION IN TAXPAYER DOLLARS OUTSOURCING JOBS!
So long Hussein, you Marxist piece of trash!
Mitt Romney reminds me of a teenager toliet papering the principal's house.
He can't argue with 'the man,' he can only vent his frustration at authority.
Rob in MASS - The piece of trash here is definitely you. Your stupidity knows no limits and you're always eager to show it off. Again with the "Marxist" stupidity. It's all you have and intelligent people won't buy it. But, the low information voters on the right probably will - those who show up to vote. However, they will be few in number and then you'll have to crawl back under your rock for the next 4 years!
Obama/Biden 2012
DeNile, Party of Five
Your table is ready.
If this is the image of a man 'surviving these vicious attacks (lol-vicious attacks, really? Like being called a liar on the house floor? Or any of the other hate speech directed Obama's way? I digress) - well, then DeNile ain't just a river in Egypt.
http://www.humortimes.com/9036/mitt-romney-reveals-he-was-ruthlessly-bullied-in-school/
plus the story is just PRICELESS, right? Gotta' fight fire with fire - unless it's directed at you,...then you whine, eh, Romney?
I posted this earlier, but I think its worth repeating.
Obama's speech October 22, 2008 -
Now my opponent is doing his best to change the subject and try to distract attention from the economy. Senator McCain's campaign actually said a couple of weeks ago that they were going to launch a series of attacks on my character because, they said, "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." And that's a promise my opponent has kept. He's been on the attack. That's what you do when you are out of ideas, out of touch, and running out of time.
Well, Virginia, here's what my opponent doesn't seem to understand. With the economy in turmoil and the American Dream at risk, the American people don't want to hear politicians attack each other - you want to hear about how we're going to attack the challenges facing middle class families each and every day. That's what I'm talking about in this campaign. That's what I'll do as President. Because I can take two more weeks of John McCain's attacks, but the American people can't take four more years of the same failed policies and the same failed politics.
Does anyone see any similarities?
@Seeking -- I am sorry but you really need to lighten up. You're gonna blow a head gasket. Public officials are fair game in the name calling arena if one wants to go there but to attack and name call another poster when nothing was directed towards you is a little over the top. Chill -- just a suggestion.
and because I often forget how little Repubs know about humor and sattire,...
the article is sattirical! and FUNNY!
The photo of Willard? not so much.
Oh, he's sharpening his tone is he? Try pulling your big boy pants up first Romney, and stop crying like a school girl for an apology.
Some time back when Romney was tagged for claiming he started a company, he stopped for a while, but now that media attention on this has died down he is back at it. Bill Bain started Bain Capital a year before Romney came on board! Romney did not risk anything--no capital, nor job security, or even his reputation. And regardless of the handful of companies that survived Bain's corporate raiding versus the many more that went under, the bottom line is Romney profited 100% of the time--often with use of taxpayer funds.
Romney doesn't say much about the Olympics anymore, and for good reason. He jumped on the chance to use his connections in Utah to resurrect his political career. Then he did some wheeling and dealing with Bain Capital (which supposedly he left) to apply pressure on companies like Staples for corporate sponsorship. The Olympics weren't even over before Romney was campaigning for governor in Massachusetts. Everything has been a stepping stone for him and that's all.
There's a rightwing chain Email (is there any other kind?) that even claims Romney is completely transparent (unlike the president-ha) including his tax returns! The Bermuda story is much more relevant than folks realize -- Romney put this in Ann's name the day before he was sworn in as governor.
And then in an attempt to appear not to be a "tax hiker," he increased regressive fees and caused sales tax and city taxes to go up to compensate -- Regressive meaning on the backs of the middle class/working poor. Also, Massachusetts would have ranked even lower in jobs if so many people hadn't moved out of the state. Not very different from Sarah Palin, Romney was absent the last two years as governor campaigning for president. Then on his way out, Romney took the hard drives with him.
Mitt's father George Romney said that only one year's tax returns could be a "fluke." Like blind trusts aren’t really “blind,” Romney knows full well that he is presenting a "fluke" tax return because he, unlike any other politician in history, has money offshore including a Swiss bank account. The reason Romney did not accept pay as governor is the same reason he contributes speaking fees to charity -- Because EARNED INCOME would make him pay more than a 13% tax rate. As for 10% of the 19% he gives to charity, this is tithing the same as all Mormons pay.
Unfortunately Mitt only learned the wrong things from his parents -- Who should have forced him to make his own way so that now he would be his own person. Legal is not the same as ethical or moral. A candidate can cheat on his wife who is dying from cancer, and that is not illegal. But do we want this candidate to be POTUS, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world? No.
Character matters. Romney -- He's not in it for you.
(Sorry about the repeat, but the section above is likely to collapse.)
Poor Democrats from today's testimony before Congress it looks like Bernacke is pulling the plug on the printing press.
I guess he's decided saving Obama is not worth taking the country over the fiscal cliff.
It's ashame Obama can't even lead his own party let alone lead the congress.
Well, this is what happen when you hire a Marist.
Lesson learned America. Lesson learned. If you care about your kids future vote for Romney!
Wayne-1656909 -- Agreed.
Three things: 1) Romney is a one-trick pony running on his "business experience," 2) even if the media stopped investigating Romney's finances, he still fails to provide a compelling reason why people should vote for him, and 3) the flip-flops are so "severe" that even staunch Republicans (especially Teavangelicals for reasons of their own) don't trust him.
The current debates about what kind of country we want to be are important. Private Inequity, Vulture Capitalism, and oligarchy rule by 17 cranky gazillionaires?
Eric Cantor is yet another Teapublican who has profited from "betting against America." Sheldon Adelson, a gambling mogul who is one those gazillionaires, just gave Cantor $5 million for his little campaign. But good old Sheldon Adelson may well be investigated for bribing foreign officials in China. The GOP/TP can try to block transparency about their donors, but we'll get some sunlight on it one way or another!
Clean the House -- Throw out these corrupt Teapublicans. And anyone who would vote for a 1% plutocrat like Romney has got to be off his/her rock.
Aww, little fiesty has forgotten all about "eyes closed" biden snoozing during obamas state of the union speechlast year. One of obamas big selling points... Right up there with pelosi saying you don't need to read it, just sign it and obamas "the private sector is fine". LOL!
Rob - exactly what is a Marist? That's a new one in you name calling.
And, since most of us care about the future of the country and of today's youth, we'll be voting for President Obama instead of the empty suit.
Maybe you should vote for he Marist? Perhaps their political views will be the same as yours - totally useless!
american - kinda like Reagan dozing during one of his cabinet meetings?
Obama/Biden 2012
Don't say I never helped LOL.
Thetotas,
Not really.
Obama is much better at message-framing than McCain was, and much better than Romney too. He's going to keep setting the frame until the republicans find a better campaign manager/strategist.
It's not substance, it's style.
Don't agree with it, but them's the breaks of reality.
They the majority of the right wing don't love or even like Willard. They just see him as a possible tool to get rid of that darn black guy that is smarter than them all.
Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past.
Karl Marx
Sounds like it came out of Hussein's mouth though, don't you think?
Rob in MASS - considering I know of no one who calls themself Hussein, I have to believe it's one of your friends.
Communism was the only declared enemy of Fascism.
Republics don't like communisn, fascism, monarchies or plutocracies.
Since you only rant about the one, and don't mention the plutocracy being created within our midst, I am forced to consider you a fascist.
WhiteCollarCriminal and Raab from mASS...The Fed doesn't print money, nor does Bernanke, but if you two ignorants believe that, then that's all that matters, right?
The Fed is NOT in the business of printing money.
The actual, physical printing presses are owned and operated by the Treasury Department...not the Fed.
Clara,
You express disbelief that Romney is nimble enough to pivot to offense. When I read the headline, all I could think was "Pivot? Why? Mitt Romney is quite offensive enough already."
Did you read about how his 2002 Olympics got their torchbearers' uniforms from Myanmar, over objections from most other countries who felt having forced-labor sewn outfits would be offensive. But Mittens, always ready to save a buck (or pocket a hundred) disregarded world opinion and bought slave-produced uniforms.
All Marism aside....and we know the word that Rob really meant to write...I'll be voting for the man that truly believes in American ingenuity, free enterprise, and individualism. Not the man that openly has distain and openly belittles those that have utilized all of the cornerstones of America's greatness.
FU - Someone, sometime, somewhere in your past told you that you were funny, right? Perhaps you misunderstood what they ment by "funny".
LIAR Romney! I'm so pissed that Romney is repeating the FAUX Noise LIE and taking the president out of context! Again, here is the complete statement:
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business — you didn't build that (unbelievable American system). Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia
STOP with the LIES!
Romney, you won't answer any questions -- Is that how you plan to serve our country? Uh, no, we don't want a lying secretive crook like you in the White House. Stop deflecting with lies about your opponent and come clean about yourself!
All Romney does is further convince us how badly we need to fix the tax code to end the 1% tax evasion, and make everyone play by the same rules. Obama/Biden - 2012!
I find it ironic that Mitt points to Steve jobs as an example when Apple is the king of outsourcing to china...
Here Romney touts his business experience and yet whines and cries when someone challenges his business experience. Romney: own up to your underhanded business tactics that made your rich, own up to your offshore tax-haven accounts that made you rich, own up to your sending jobs overseas that made you rich, own up to your low tax rate that made you rich.
Romney, stop your crying already. It's not very presidential.
To thetotas who wrote:
What makes that so funny is that unemployment at the time was 6.1% Now it is 8.2%!
TruePatriot-445959, You might want to check out what ALL Fact Checkers are saying about the Obama ads. Lies. All evidence shows that he left Bain in 1999, not 2001. He did not outsource jobs while Governor or at Bain.
What the President said was:
It appears to me that Romney is trying to rise above personal attacks in response to our President's childish tactics...After all Romney is campaigning for the POTUS and not President of the PTA. Leave that campaign approach to catty soccer moms.
Ben-636050
Your post has just as much BS in it as Romney's speech. All you people have are misquotes and hate innuendo... it's pretty easy to see right through your fallacies (called Republican fantasies). Your "body shot" or "Kerry moment" isn't even worth responding to. It's a misquote. It's a lie. It's another Romney "I wish Obama had really said this" moment that will, again, go nowhere.
The truth is that the list of GOP f#$%kups over the last decade are long and real and Americans will not forget them anytime soon...
Romney claims that Obama doesn't understand "business"... this coming from a man who's view of business is so out of touch and myopic that he wouldn't recognize a small business and their hardships if it hit him in the face.
You see, in a Romney world all problems are solved by tapping into your Cayman Islands account. In the real world personal plight goes hand-in-hand with your ability to start and/or support business. Try running a business with no money... not even in Romney's eyes.
So all Romney has to change the conversation against his taking millions out of this economy and refusing to release tax returns?... misquote Obama and act all insulted... how f@#$king clever! Wow, he's got me convinced!
What an idiot.
This election is becoming clearer by the day..
Governor Romney seemingly has no intent to stray outside the gated communities very far, for very long. His primary roll seems to be to fire up the red meat crowd, to open their pockets as far as they can, so the GOP can make record bank, and then divert that money into elections they feel they can win.
It's all a ruse.. or else the Governor would be doing things and running things a lot differently.
That is my sense lately. If he's such an effective 'manager',...why is his campaign such an abysmal failure?
hmmm?
Such as how? Dancing to Obama's tune?
Obama opened his mouth and let the truth fall out- same as when he said "the private sector is doing fine". The truth? Obama is completely clueless about how the economy of this country works.
Government does not enable businesses- businesses, and those who own them and run them profitably- enable government to exist.
Taxes collected from barely half of us pay the bills. The rest is on a credit card that will be paid by our children and grandchildren- not all of them, mind you. Just the ones "fortunate" enough to be born to millionaires and billionaires who earn $200,000 a year or more.
Now that even the New York Times is calling a lie a lie- with regard to Bain- it will be interesting to see what other slander Obama can manufacture. Romney is happily married to his high school sweetheart- so he cannot dumpster dive into sealed divorce records. What's he got left? He wants to "tell us a story".
I've got one- it's about a really incompetent empty suit that got swept into office on a cloud of euphoria, and the hangover felt by the electorate just two years into his term. He gets swept out in the end- and after working very hard to repair the damage done by him, they all lived happily ever after, while he portrayed himself as a victim on TV.
I call it
Obama shelved in 2012.
Thanks for reminding me of dancing.
Interesting when Willard's horse isn't dancing it's drugged...
Couple a real animal lovers those Romney's are!
no joe, no bo, nj
There are three levels of dull and you are masterful in occupying all of them. A bravaro performance.
Exactly! My guess is Romney.
The silly things these libbies say, right No Jo?
I do so love your Fiesty dog whistle though.
Powerful stuff there.
Clara Bell - it a dead heat, a 47-47% tie.
If Mitt's campaign is a failure, then what prey tell is Obama's
See how that works Clara?
Yeah, I knew you would.
blackcatwhitecat - the no joe analysis was spot on!
I wonder if the horse 'carrier' will go on top of the plane on it's way to the Olympics?
sorry; but the jokes really are writing themselves these days.
Clara - well that would be breezy. Maybe they could put Mitt in the horse carrier! I'll vote for that!
Okay ... I actually have a friend that sent me a pic of a horse strapped on top of a private jet ... definitely photoshopped but HYSTERICAL!
Layton - ohhhhh can you somehow post it?
Chas Holman
Very insightful post. I agree, Romney seems most comfortable with his own crowd, the moneyed creme de la creme. He can pander to the low information voter when he needs to, but absolutely cannot converse with the majority of middle class people.
I can't quite understand the Conservative logic.
On one hand, they claim that if small businesses are NOT sucessful and jobs are NOT being created it is the government's fault. However, if a small business is successful and creates jobs and wealth it has nothing to do with the government - they did it on their own.
Kinda like outsourcing jobs, fighting against minimum wage increases, reducing union influence, and eliminating public sector jobs - then complaining that 50% of people don't pay taxes!
President Obama was merely pointing out that after someone works hard and achieves success there are two approaches to deal with it - take all the credit and look down on those less successful, or be thankful and do your part to ensure others can achieve success.
Now which way is more American?
TNSEVOL - well now there ya go talking logically and pointing out facts. You know that's not allowed when talking to the far right. It just totally upsets their day. They don't have the talking points to go against logic.
Obama/Biden 2012
There goes NJBJ .. poor thing just planted her head so far up a SCOTUS ass the poor thing will never see the light of day. Hate to break it to you, government is for citizens and is enabled by citizens. No where in the constitution does it say "We the business...". While SCOTUS is desperately trying to grant citizenship to corporations, the public is tiring of these antics. Sadly, it is NJBJ and her ilk that believe corporations and business' are Gods - fortunately, most of us think otherwise.
TNSEVOL
Thank you for stating so eloquently, something I've been struggling to articulate for months.
The Republicans hold President Obama responsible for everything from the price of gas, to cutbacks in NASA programs, then they turn around and say we should shrink government to the size it could be drowned in a bath tub. If the free market sets the price of gas, how can you expect government to make the price fall?
Space travel is being privatized under President Obama, and the Republicans cannot even cheer for their favorite free market solution, because that would be giving Obama some credit.
Come on Willard, come clean. We all know you are nothing but a spoiled lying little punk, that feels it's beneath you to answer questions!
Also, YOU don't demand anything from President Obama.
Government does not enable businesses- businesses, and those who own them and run them profitably- enable government to exist.
Noblojo -
You gotta be pretty friggin stupid not to understand O's statement in that speech regarding the symbiotic relationship between government and business...
Obama/Biden 2012
Chas Holman -- Romney wants to be president so bad his arsehole is constricted so tight he scurries around. Seriously, he feels entitled, he is not accustomed to scrutiny, and thinks he can play by his own rules.
That's why he lost by a landslide when he ran for the Senate, and why he would have lost by a landslide if he tried to run again for Governor, and why McCain won the nomination for 2008. With Romney's record, why does he (or rightwingers) think he is a good nominee now?
Tnsevol...
LMAO... Since when is concentrating on public sector job growth over the private sector been so effective? After all, it has always been the private sector that has made the public sector possible in any type of democracy.
Must explain why k-12 education in the US keeps on dropping in world rankings as more and more $$$ has been thrown at it over the years.
Must explain why we haven't seen a dramatic increase in fire loss (outside of wildfires) and criminal activity because protective services have been downsized. You must just love it when city governments are forced to pay minimum wage?
True patriot, kind of like obamas azzhole when he cries out "I deserve a second term". A rather memorable interview...
american, re: the k-12 comment, possibly because your buddy GWB decided to pass "No Child Left Behind" which was a total scam and is still hurting the education system.
Seeking ... re: the picture ... if you're on FB - go look up political gutter's page . . .
no joe, no bo, nj
We'll forgive you for trying to leverage a complete mis-quote from Obama, but "clueless about how the economy of this country works"? News flash: It isn't working for over 90% of us.
Do you or your Republican minion have a clue how "the economy works according to Romney"?... and according to his big-money donors? I do. And the way they understand how it works doesn't include you or any others duped into supporting them.
Romney's view of business is simple. Business is a means to an end to take money out of this economy to support their continued richness and self largesse on the backs of EVERYONE else. Romney's love of the 15% tax rate and off-shore accounts is his "business acumen". He knows the system. He knows how to play it. Low taxes at the top end do nothing but encourage huge executive paydays and the REMOVAL of money from businesses that otherwise would go towards reinvestment or JOBS.
His problem? We know his play and the more others that know it will not just move their vote... they will hate him and what he stands for. Romney's brand of "business" is self propelled greed... nothing more, nothing less.
Hah! Hah! Now I get it!
You Cons had your panties all in a knot when "houndog" Bill Clinton was President, because he was getting "some" and you Cons and Teabaggers weren't.
and Now you Republicans and Teabaggers are Wetting your Panties, because you Now have a Black Man, Obama the Great, living in your once sacred White House.
Too bad, how sad, I'm glad.
Anyway what's Mitt Romney Hiding in those Tax Returns, large fines, proof that he cheated the government, slush funds from his Swiss Bank accounts and his phony Cayman Island laundering shell-companies, maybe financial ties to Terrorist Organizations. Am I getting close? Betcha I am.
Anyway, this once proud Republican is encouraging all my Republican friends, Ron Paul supporters, and of course all you Undecided Independent voters, to vote a straight Democratic ticket come this November 2012.
It will be Fun, and it's the Right thing to do! Let's send those Republicans and Mitt Romney back to the "Dung Heap of History" where they rightfully belong. I'm sure all my readers and posters would agree with me. Right?
God Bless you President Obama for being our President, and therefore Ruler, Master, and Overlord of all Republicans and Teabaggers for the next Four (yes! 4) very long years! Ain't Life grand?
Test.
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Governor Steve Beshear on Tuesday issued an executive order establishing the Kentucky Health Benefit Exchange, a requirement of the federal Affordable Care Act (ACA).
States have two decisions to make after the Supreme Court's ruling on the Affordable Care Act: how to implement the health benefit exchange, and whether to expand Medicaid eligibility to 133 percent of the federal poverty level.
The question of whether states will expand Medicaid eligibility is completely unrelated to the health benefit exchange implementation. Kentucky is still in the process of gathering information on the possible impacts of Medicaid expansion, and as a result, no decision has been made.
Clara, i'll add to thier PAIN with this Story from WLEX in Lexington, KY, a lil over an hoir ago.
Seems as tho these Conservative Democrats in KY,(also known as Republicans)understand that the Supremes Final Say a couple weeks ago, means they better get on the Ball & do something.
You Betcha!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
These so called exchanges are going to be equivalent to Free Clinics. Long waits and crappy services.
thetotas-
You do know the exchanges are for Health Insurance not actual Medical Services??
Don't confuse the poor thing...
She claims to work in the medical industry... lol
Well, if she doesn't like their services she can always fire them like Romney likes to do.....
Bracing for 2018!!!
http://www.benefitspro.com/2012/07/13/nahus-ceo-says-employers-need-to-brace-for-2018?eNL=5005b19d150ba0aa6e000093&utm_source=HCRW&utm_medium=eNL&utm_campaign=LifeHealthPro_eNLs&_LID=101001587
TNSEVOL, you do know that Theotas is The Resident Theologin of that well Known "Church of Whats Happenin NOW"?
Hey Ben-##########, you are aware that according to the Mayan Calendar, Earth runs outta Time on 12/21/2012(this Year)!
So I suggest in the next 5 months, You Party likes its 1999!
RetroActively, of course!
You Betcha!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
In high school, I stocked medical supplies at a hospital. I'm so glad to find out that I am now qualified as a brain surgeon and medical insurance expert. I knew that job experience would come in handy. Can't wait to use those exchanges to swap out a few RWNJ brains - I've seen smarter cockroaches.
RedDevPS - I'm sure you've stepped on smarter cockroaches!
Put Romney in control of your taxes
when we do not know how he does his.
Great Plan.
Unlike the obstructionist GOP/TP, cockroaches are smart enough to get out of the way, so I've been able to avoid that squishy mess on the bottom of my soles. Wish I could say the same of the GOP/TP trolls on this site that come here day after day for a regular head squash.
Well red, I look at it as being more of an entertaining and humorous diversion from day to day life. It never ceases to amaze me that the FR left can spin so much without falling down and start babbling nonsense.
Oh wait, they do!
american - and the Republicans just come in on all fours to begin with. They eventually slither out when they realize they aren't up to the challenge!
Feisty scammer - no doubt you DID work the streets when you were 14. Probably still are. Amazing you're not talented enough to make up your own moniker. But you're easily identifiable. Stupid - just plain stupid!
TNSEVOL,
Yes I do know what Exchanges / Insurance are. My husband plan is considered a Cadillac Plan. This plan will take a big hit forcing the insurance company to pay out more which will trickle down to the employers. Two things can happen, employers drop out of the exchange and pay the taxes. Or the employer passes the increase on to the employees. Either why it looks like we will be shopping around for insurance, and what we once had and can afford will beyond our reach.
If my husband wasn't so ill the change would not be so upsetting. My biggest fear is he will lose his pulmonary specialist.
Feisty,
I work for the owner of a Medical / Surgery Center Facility, which we also manage. I never said I was in the Medical Industry.
Test
screw this
If you're not using Google Chrome as your browser, try that. In the transition, there have been some bugs here at MSNBC though. But it's still way better than Fox Nation!
"Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain." Smoke and fire are no substitute for turning over the tax records. The Republican Party needs time to come up with a better candidate, and Romney cannot run and hide at the same time. He is in big trouble for lying to voters for ten years or for lying to the SEC for three.
Huckabee, Santorum, Perry, and Gingrich are all on record calling Romney a liar. Only the Republican base enjoys being lied to by their politicians.
I believe that Mrs. Clinton accused the president of "perpetrating falsehoods" (that's lies) during the 2008 campaign. And look at her. She's Secretary of State.
Affinity, they tried out everyone during the primaries, when it looked like they'd anoint anybody who wasn't Romney. Problems was that one was nuttier (Bachman, Cain, Gingerich) or more dopey (Perry) than the next, and in the end they had to bite the bullet and take Romney. Seems they have a really short memory since Mittens is such a great candidate now.
Lets see now, Romney was successful as Governor of Mass., he was a very successful business person, and he was a very successful leader of the SLC Olympics. So he has a proven record of being able to manage large and complex organizations. And Obama... that's as far as I can get.
So, it will be 2050 and perhaps another Dem will be elected President and the economy will be faultering and the Dems will be saying "but Bush..." If you really want to talk truth, then finally admit that this is now Obama's economy and it sucks.
Romney is imploding and his campaign is shell-shocked. Maybe the convention will prove interesting after all....maybe there will be a surprise nominee since Romney is stumbling, bumbling already, and the hard part hasn't even begun.
Poor pampered, spoiled Romney....he will be shaking his little fists and stomping his little feet shouting "but, but, but it's my turn, it's my turn!" When President Obama is re-elected.
No, Dragon, unfortunately the GOP will go with Romney. He's the best they got and it would be embarrasing to go with someone else. Likely they'll chalk this up as a loss before it is started and move on toward 2016. You don't think they would nominate someone who is stumbling and bumbling? Well, they did in 2000 and 2004. How soon we forget.
Adler - how pathetic to have to admit Romney is the BEST a party has! Wow!
Adler-273784 -- And why corrupt contributors like Sheldon Adelson are starting to give money to congressional races -- Like Eric Cantor's.
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If you think Romney is imploding and his campaign is shell-shocked now --- wait until the debates. He didn't do very well against 4th stringers like Pizza Man Cain,Moron Perry and Whacko Bachmann. It won't be pretty for Mr. Flip-Flop.
Well, on the conservative side we are all laughing because either you honestly believe that Obama has done anything positive or you just willing to stick your head in the sand
Obama has accomplished absolutely nothing except preside over a poor economy and he has no idea how to make it better. Heck even the so called affordable care act was not his idea and he did not even write any of it and he barely got that passed with a huge majority. Dems should have had their way back then, but barely passing teh AFC was the best they could do.
Is that the best you've got. Heck, I'll even say that Clinton was twice the leader as Obama, at least Clinton was intelligent.
It's true Govnah, even at Bain Capitol it took people and companies for you to raid. Without them Bain might not exist. So, yes it taks more than one person to create and run a business. Customers, suppliers, owners, employees all are important in even the smallest of businesses. So go ahead and take credit for the successes and blame the failures on others it's perfectly normal. Selective memory is also a good trait when trying to woo the rwnj base.
Oh-O! the Pinocchios are coming out for govenor willtard.
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/romneys-misleading-history-of-tax-returns-issued-by-presidential-contenders/2012/07/16/gJQAChunpW_blog.html
Nice straw man argument by the Mittster.
has any of the current crop of Republican's ever completed a basic logic and critical thinking course when they were in college? It certainly seems as though they all just attended the Limbaugh university dedicated to fallacious arguments...
No wonder the republicans by and large want to dismantle the dept of education...
I can hear Spanky right now,
"...heh heh, he said fallacious, heh heh..."
in true Butthead form.
The rightwing has definitely lowered the level of political discourse in the country. William F. Buckley must be spinning in his grave.
Tzalaran... At least we know obama hasn't, oh wait how much money did obama spend on hiding his education transcripts?
Nice to see you enjoy duplication of services so much, however you do realize that more funds would be available at the local and state level without such duplication.
What does any of your schpeel have to do with the price of tea in china?
Thank you for proving my point...
The way you choose to interpet President Obama's remarks about 'no one doing it alone' reveals alot about your character.
My older brother and I are both fairly succesful. We both grew up in a lower middle-class environment raised by two parents with only high school educations.
We both went to college, received our degrees, and went on to pursue advanced degrees. My brother earned his law degree, and I achieved an MBA. He passed the Bar Exam, I tested and earned my CPA certification.
My brother takes all the credit for his success - anyone who isn't as successful as him is lazy and ignorant. His chiodlren look down on our parents and consider them "lower" on the social scale.
I freely admit that although I worked hard, I would never have made it without the support of my parents and others. My Dad worked his butt off providing for us - he took care of the big things like food & sheleter, and left us free to do our homework and study. We never went hungry, and we always had clothes on our back. My brother looks at my dad and thinks "why weren't you more successful", I look at my dad and think "thank you for working so hard to make sure I could be successful".
The difference in our two approaches highlight the differences in the interpretation of President Obama's speech. He is just asking us to be thankful for what we have, and support an opportunity for the success of others.
The conservative approach appears to be "screw you, I have mine go get your own".
Unaffiliated - of course you are. Do you think anyone believes that tripe?
@TNS - Sadly, this egotistical view is the most perverse human trait, and it seems to be the most prevalent in the GOP. Rather than thank public education, they bitch about it. Rather than thank the government for the protections it provides, they bitch about them. Little do they understand that without the role of government providing a playing field of opportunity, they would accomplish nothing.
@ TNSEVOL
Nicely said! I'm sure your parents are quite proud of you and your accomplishments and fully realize you appreciate all that they did for you.
Sad your brother doesn't appreciate their help which your parents most likely also realize.
When was Mitt Romney and his campaign to take the gloves off, get in the fighting spirit, and push back against Obama narratives?
Today in Irwin, Pennsylvania, Romney delivered.
I believed in what he was selling: A vision for restoring American greatness and defending success.
Obama’s inability to hide his ideological contempt for entrepreneurs & individual success has helped Romney self-actualize.
If he gives this speech with the same zeal and optimism from now until November — offering a clear, unapologetic contrast to Barack Obama’s bitter politics of resentment, class warfare, and entitlement, Mitt Romney will win.
You can watch the speech at the link below. They have the full speech and a 10 min version.
http://www.therightscoop.com/soon-watch-romney-live-in-irwin-pennsylvania/
sonmanvb - that's your idea of delivering? Wow! You've really set the bar low haven't you? Actually, I guess the Republican Party has set the bar the lowest it's ever been. How sad!
Obama/Biden 2012
If you really want to seek insanity, you have to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a differrent result
sonmanvb - which is exactly what the GOP is doing over and over again. They keep putting failures in office and think things will get better instead of worse.
Again, seeking sanity in the GOP where there is absolutely none to be found.
Obama/Biden 2012
Put Romney in control of your taxes
without knowing how he does his?
Does that sound sane?
Sandy...
Sounds like you think you are an expert on taxes, how droll. I bet even tnsevol wouldn't claim to be a tax expert, except within a very narrow area of expertise.
I wouldn't want to watch any speech by Romney. His speech is always filled with lie after lie. Sununu is showing how really unintelligent he is. What the right dislike about President Obama is that he is African American and really really smart and intelligent. They can't believe a Black man could speak so articulately and relate to ALL OF THE PEOPLE SO WELL!! Anyone running for President, should disclose all financial documents. The fact that he won't seems to indicate something wrong. This man, with all of his billions, pays 13% income tax. Those of us making $65,000 pay 22%. What is wrong with that picture.
Sununu owes an apology to the President for saying he is not an American. The fact that he had to try to walk that back says that he didn't expect the backlash from is words.
There are so many reasons not to trust Romney, with surrogates calling Obama "unAmerican". The ads run by the Obama campaign are truthfull and somewhat negative depending on whether you are left or right, but he never calls Romney a negative name.
What the right dislike about President Obama is that he is African American and really really smart and intelligent. They can't believe a Black man could speak so articulately
Sorry think you have them confused with Biden.
@ Velma Adams
You are correct, there is something wrong with him and others like him only paying 13% tax. It has to do with investments not taxed the same as income which should be taxed as income to bring the 1% folks to the same tax % as the rest of us.
I wonder if Romney &/or his team put Sununu up to it, as Romney hasn't the nerve to do so himself.
cs1701a...
lots of book smart and intelligent people are on unemployment. If you can't use your smarts in an effective way what good does it do?
Apparently you have never listened to any of dr kings speeches
Obama failed big time on his policy agenda. he ignored to maintain a focus on an economic recovery. What good is healthcare if one still can't afford it? What good is financial reform if joe average can't meet the new financial requirements? You know the FED won't keep interest rates low forever. Then what?
Right, cs. Because Condaleeza Rice and Colin Powell are so inept at public speaking, right?
Obama brags about avoiding colloquial definition of insanity shortly before putting self in straight-jacket
Speaking in Ohio yesterday, President Obama said he’s careful never to become the colloquial definition of insanity(Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result evry time.):
Then, less than ten minutes later, who’s up for some more “green energy” investments?
Romney should hold a TOWN HALL meeting
like Obama did.
Could Romney answer voters questions?
Romney might even answer the questions instead passing out the blame
sonmanvb - don't you know the Romney rules? No one is allowed to ask Romney questions. Way too easy for him to make an a** of himself if he has to answer!
Obama/Biden 2012
Romney wouldn't even be making personal appearances if he didn't have to do so as part of the campaigning much less answer questions.
Us regular folk are not his cup of tea!
And yet, I know _extremely— conservative farmers who use solar panels to run watering systems for their stock because they live in the back of beyond.
No green energy _there_, right?
I Thought, That NBC NEWS, WAS A Democratic Spokesman, For The News Media.
Get To The Backing, Of The Public's, Need, To Have A More Slanted View, Of Criticizing, The Other Party's View, To Offset, The Lies, And Deviation, OF Democratic Direction, The People Want, And, Need To Know. Stop The Glossing, OR Sensationalizing, Of The Aggressive None Truth"s And, Get, To The Truthful Handling, of the POLITICAL NEWS. You Appear, To Be Bought Out, By THE OTHER PARTY. Shame On You. Address, The Non Performance, Of The Congresses Bigoted, Racial Oriented,( Block Obama )Issues Directly. Tear Up, This Congress, For Dereliction, Of Duty, Responsibility, To The AMERICAN PEOPLE. Your Sorrier Than Congress. Your Not A news Agency Your Nothing But A Propaganda Machine Innuendo's and bull crap Straighten Up, Serve, The Public With The Truth.
Obama is without business smarts according to Romney people. Romney was a successful venture capitalist because he was willing to destroy vulnerable companies for his investors, and obliterate American workers' lives without any remorse or sympathy. This is also why Romney is revered by the plutocrats as a presidential candidate: he has demonstrated the capacity to kill the weakened US economy, feed off its carcass, and destroy ordinary Americans’ lives without any remorse or sympathy for anyone but himself and his buddies.
Garrett Haake - go back to Journalism school. Seriously. What a partisan hack. Is it possible for anyone at NBC to report the news without inserting their opinion into the article?
LAUGH TRACK!!! Every week, Romney tries this/tries that, tries this/tries that, and none of it works, none of it connects. He's impotent. And he's still groping in the dark. Entertaining and funny watching him stumble and bumble along (dum-dee-dum-dum, I'm just a rich dork).
I Thought, That NBC NEWS, WAS A Democratic Spokesman, For The News Media.
Get To The Backing, Of The Public's, Need, To Have A More Slanted View, Of Criticizing, The Other Party's View, To Offset, The Lies, And Deviation, OF Democratic Direction, The People Want, And, Need To Know. Stop The Glossing, OR Sensationalizing, Of The Aggressive None Truth"s And, Get, To The Truthful Handling, of the POLITICAL NEWS. You Appear, To Be Bought Out, By THE OTHER PARTY. Shame On You. Address, The Non Performance, Of The Congresses Bigoted, Racial Oriented,( Block Obama )Issues Directly. Tear Up, This Congress, For Dereliction, Of Duty, Responsibility, To The AMERICAN PEOPLE. Your Sorrier Than Congress. Your Not A news Agency Your Nothing But A Propaganda Machine Innuendo's and bull crap Straighten Up, Serve, The Public With The Truth.
Obama promised he would quote "remove 2 million families from poverty in his first term"
Obama promised he would quote "cut the deficit in 1/2 by the end of his first term"
Obama promised he would quote "fix the economy & get America back working"
Well Barack, you've owned 2/3 of Washington since 2006 (100% your first two years) and you've managed to triple our debt, put over 12,000,000 more people on unemployment (4% increase x our population), added 2 million more families to poverty, the economy still sucks and you've given a free pass to illegals who are breaking the laws of the US Constitution.
You must be proud of yourself.
Kind of like Robme promising to repeal ACA, eh!
Mix together Joe Biden’s “every great idea has required government to succeed” and Elizabeth (Spreading Bull) Warren’s “there’s nobody in this country who got rich on his own” and you get this doozy that took place during Faint-Fest 2012 last week.
Transcript of part of Obama’s speech via The Blaze:
Yes, somebody did “invest” in the infrastructure that helps us thrive — taxpayers did — including those who are wealthy, along with small business owners and others who are apparently fooling themselves into thinking they worked hard and smart to get where they are when in fact they were carried there by big government.
Isn’t it too bad Obama, Biden or Fauxcahontas aren’t willing to make these statements to people on the other end of the economic spectrum? It would be interesting to see them stand before an audience of, say, plant workers who lost their jobs because of EPA regs, and remind them “you didn’t get to the unemployment line on your own — somebody gave you some help!”
sonmanvb - it would be more interesting to see Romney stand in front of parents who lost their children because of the toxic chemicals the Republicans have allowed to be dumped into waste sites explain that it's just too bad children died but, after all, pollution and no environmental standards are just best for business.
Show me someone who lost their job due to EPA standards where the Standards did not benefit the greater good. EPA Standards have created more jobs than they have cost and we all get cleaner air and water as a benefit.
Obama should be proud of himself, or ashamed. You decide.
http://www.thefactfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/fedwork3.jpg
This shows the ratio of Federal employees to the private sector going back to 2001. The highest years, or course, are during the tenure of Party Boy Bush, the poster child of borrow and spend. Lately, even though Federal employees are being added to keep up with larger populations, they are enduring budget freezes and cutbacks. So, the next time you wait at the Social Security or U.S. District Court, remember that you have a voice.
Hey, I have an idea. How about if President Obama simply runs ON his record, instead of AWAY from it?
Record unemployment numbers. Record deficits. Record addition to the national debt. Record number of Americans receiving government aid. The only credit downgrade in our history.
And while he is running those commercials about Romney's time at Bain and exactly when it ended, maybe he can explain how THAT is somehow more important than Fast & Furious being covered up by "executive priviledge". I doubt many Americans care more about what month or year that Romney left Bain compared to finding out who approved allowing guns to be smuggled to Mexico and into the hands of people who are willing to kill American law enforcement personnel with them.
I'm tired of the he said-he said. Enough of the blame game. I want to know specifically, in minute detail, what both Romney and Obama plan to do about the economy. Romney's declaration that he will create jobs isn't enough. How, exactly, precisely, step-by-step. If he can't articulate that, then nothing he says has any value.
PS And he needs to release his tax returns. There is no good reason not to. If Romney wants to be CEO in Chief, then we need to see how he manages money.
Great idea, but one that can never happen. Neither candidate stands a chance of getting anything done as long as the corporations and lobbyists are controlling the House and Senate. It does not matter who sits at the desk if legislation never reaches it. Our lawmakers don't even write the laws they introduce until they are vetted by their corporate masters or the special interests that keep them in office.
The fact is that Romney made money for Bain and it's investors. Pretty simple to see he knows how to handle money.
Romney won't actually CREATE jobs, because it is not government's JOB to create them in the private sector. What he will do is foster a pro-business-type of government with fewer regulations and less taxes.
What have been Obama's plans to "create jobs"?
From what we read – many of Mitt’s fellow Republicans can’t stand him. McCain doesn’t like him, Newt can’t stand him, Rick Perry can’t stand him – it’s a long list. After listening to Mitt for the last 3 months, I can understand why. This clown will say anything to anyone at any time depending on where he is and who he’ talking to. He has no foundation. He’s for and against everything at the same time.
.Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!
Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class!
…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!
Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."
“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…
NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!
Vote NOBOZO, . NOBIDEN.............2012!
boring
Just the truth. It hurts, doesn't it Life.
Democrats have to lie. If they tell the truth they can't get elected.
agreed obama is an effing retarted ileagal alien in charge..he cant raise his kids on his own so he hires 17 slaves for michelle in the white house..moves most of his family into the whitehouse so they can live off taxpayers dollars...takes airforce one whereever he wants...what a waste of human flesh this so called prez is....