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Mitt Romney’s campaign had a heavy presence this weekend in Nebraska to help ensure that Texas Rep. Ron Paul would not have the chance to have his name put forward as a potential GOP presidential nominee at next month’s convention in Tampa.
At least five staffers, including campaign lawyer Ben Ginsberg, attended the Nebraska state convention this weekend, where the state’s Republicans were formally selecting delegates to send to Florida. Paul needed to win a majority of the delegates in Nebraska to add to the four other states he had won, and meet the five-state threshold he needed to at least maintain his longshot bid for the Republican nomination.
When all the votes were counted, the Texas congressman only won two of Nebraska’s 35 national slots – despite rallying supporters the night before on a conference call.
Nebraska Republican Gov. Dave Heineman did not attend the convention, but reportedly “worked actively behind the scenes to personally contact Nebraska Republicans who made the delegate selections.” As the first Republican governor to endorse Romney, Heineman wanted to avoid embarrassment and deliver his home state.
“We had a primary process,” Heineman said. “Mitt Romney won that and Ron Paul didn’t win a single state. I wanted Nebraska to reflect that.”
State party officials had security concerns due to the intense interest of Paul supporters after being warned by Republicans in other states their event may encounter “significant disturbances.” They initially planned to hire additional security guards to patrol the convention, but the idea was withdrawn days later and the convention concluded at the Riverside Golf Club in Grand Island with no major problems.
“We did it the Nebraska way. In Nebraska, we can have our disagreements but, at the end of the day, we work together,” state GOP chair Mark Fahleson told the Omaha World Herald.
Paul revealed that his staff has spoken indirectly with the Romney campaign about the national convention and described their organization as “very insecure.”
“They want to build a party and they preach this thing about big tent -- it's not like I'm preaching socialism,” Paul said Friday on Fox News, addressing fears over his presence in Tampa. “I am … for doing exactly what Republicans claim they believe in. So it is sort of ironic. … Why can’t we have a little debate?”
The Paul campaign claims to have 500 supporters as delegates – most bound by state party rules to vote in favor of Mitt Romney for president – and on Friday, the leader of this movement hinted at the influence they can have on nominations for vice president.
“The rules dictate who gets to be nominated … not only for a president, but for vice president as well,” Paul declared.
RNC Rule 40 (b) states that “each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a plurality of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination.”
The Paul campaign believes they have a plurality of delegates in at least nine states and are also represented in non-Romney slates of delegates from other states headed to the national convention. These activists originally supported someone other than Romney during the primaries and aren’t bound by state party rules to vote for the former Bain executive’s vice presidential pick, which could present a challenge to Romney during the symbolic procedure of officially endorsing the nominee’s pick for vice president.
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Too bad...Paul's appearance would've provided a little comic diversion at the Republican convention! But you had to figure Romney could control Nebraska's outcome with nothing left to spend money on in the primary.
Ron Paul is a patriot and garners immense support amoung American youth. It is the youth in America that are crying out for honesty. The status quo had better be listening.
scott-579755
That speaks volumes. The young Republicans are running away from the GOP of today and straight into the arms of Ron Paul.
Not only is the GOP alienating miorities, they are also alienating the youth!
Ron Paul is the least of NitMitt's worries. He already has enough delegates to win hands down. So why is he further alienating and angering the Paulie's? Does he want to lose that group too???
Obama/Biden 2012
The last paragraph leads me to believe Nebraska doesn't matter.
They are claiming a plurality in 9 states, which according to their rules means he can still be nominated from the floor.
This was a very poorly-titled article.
Ugh - this is like watching a reality TV cannibalism show - the GOP dining on the TP.
scott-579755
Ron Paul is a patriot and garners immense support amoung American youth.
Just lie a cult. Paul is not patriot. He is a talking reptile.
It is the youth in America that are crying out for honesty. The status quo had better be listening.
Via Waylon Lewis
on Dec 14, 2011
20 Reasons I won’t Vote for Ron Paul.
He’s anti-gay marriage (supports DOMA)
2. He’s a young earth creationist
3. He’s a climate change denier
4. He believes that America, founded on principles of freedom of worship by many less-than-Christian framers, is a Christian country.
5. Worse, he believes that separation of church and state is a myth
6. He is against net neutrality (you know , liberty online)
7. He believes the civil rights act had a negative impact on the country
8. His stance on safety-nets (none, please)
9. His stance on student aid (do away with it)
10. His stance on health care (including Medicare, Medicaid)
11. His stance on abortion (goodbye, Roe v. Wade)
12. He would shutter the EPA (goodbye environmental health regulations, hello toxic daily life for our children)
13. His stance on Social Security (a hindrance to freedom)
14. His stance on taxes on the super-rich (no, thank you)
15. His stance on financial regulations (none, please)
16. His lack of support for renewable energy
17. He would close the Department of Education
18. He wouldn’t be able to bring the troops home: “Closing bases and withdrawing troops is an expensive process, and the DoD isn’t going to get very far if Congress forbids them from spending any money on it. It’s the exact same problem that prevented Obama from closing Guantanamo Bay.”
19. He signed the Pro-Life Presidential pledge, which includes a vow to only nominate pro-life judges to the Court. Generally, serious presidential candidates should refuse to sign all pledges, since they remove the rights of citizens in a democracy to see their wishes represented, and make their reps beholden to outside interests.
20. Given his ground game, he’d be tough for President Obama to beat. A lot of liberals, including myself, would be tempted to vote Paul. I’d rather Obama get to bat around damaged-goods Newt or wooden-1%er Mitt.
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/12/20-reasons-i-wont-vote-for-ron-paul/
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PS: Paul takes tainted campaign donations:
Ron Paul Disavows White Supremacists, But Takes Their Money
This is how "back door deals" work in the GOP. So you can bet with Romney as President there will be lots of "back door" deals.
He'd be tough for Obama to beat for one reason.
His foreign policy stances.
I hate his economics, but I am totally in line with his foreign policy.
I hate Obama's foreign policy, and I'm part of 'the base'.
So that would be the big 'discussion' far as I was concerned.
Eric - We KNOW for sure there were no backdoor deals with Obama, don't we?
Bev in Chitown - Otherwise known as that wacky and wild woman.
Do tell me, did Obama take any tainted money? Do you believe the Resco deal was legit?
If anybody there are no back room dealings in whatever party they support, they're a moron. That's how politics works and has always worked. There is no such thing as transparancy and there never will be, I don't care whether it's the U.S. president or the King of Zmunda...those back door dealings keep them on top and us on the botton.
Bev - I'm still writing in RP
Ron Pauls mule is gone. Question is; did it run away, or was it rustled?
Willard Romney
stolebought his nomination fair and square and he's not gonna let anyone put a bad spin on his coronation.Next on Romney's checklist of people to stamp out - Obama.
If the GOP wanted a real shot at winning this year, they should have gone with Paul. Would of had a lot of the college kids support and all the other GOP people would have gotten in line because, well they just would have because it was the GOP pick.
Unlike Obama in 2008.Ron Paul does not deserve audience at the convention as he is corrupt and biased in his thought processes and his minions are following a dead horse. His TEA party has but one thing in mind, and that is to limit Obama to one term. Sadly, if the people do not get out and vote, fringe elements will continue to control local and state level governments while America fumes.
Some of Ron Paul's views are good, while others are a bit whacky to me. I don't agree with all of his views, but I respect the fact that he's very upfront and says precisely where he stands on issues and why. Mitt Romney on the other hand is like a picture taken out of focus. I can barely make out the major features, and there's no detail.
Who's Ron Paul?
What I always wonder is when Republicans are on the receiving end of fellow Republican shenanigans, do they ever connect the dots and realize how much their own Party sucks? Voter suppression (and hope of over-turning the Voter Rights Act) coming soon to a state near you...
Back room or back door? 'Cuz I'd say America has definitely been taking it in the back door from the Republicans for quite a long time now.
I predict this will be the least watched televised political party convention in US History. But, the Republican Convention is going to be GREAT business for US Movie Theaters and cable movie channels.
Colorado Man,
I think the wacky chick from Alaska helped Obama clinch the 2008 election.
Seems like the Republican party has done everything it can to eliminate the threat that Ron Paul poses. They have in essence said: "You are the unwanted step child that this family will continue to ignore." Even the conservative media seems to look over him.
Dr. Paul will never become President of the U.S., and the reason is very simple. He wants to cut bloated and unnecessary federal departments like education, commerce, energy, and urban development, balance the budget, eliminate the Fed, and put us back on the gold standard. These actions alone would save this country billions if not trillions of dollars, but most Americans can't fathom the thought of making such realistic decisions, and our entitlement society would never tolerate it. The pain would simply be too great, but the alternatives of doing nothing are far worse. It seems that Dr. Paul has the intestinal fortitude to do what is necessary, and that is precisely why he is not electable. The people of America want to be pacified, coddled, and schmoozed, so they can feel better about themselves and their maligned philosophies.
It makes me wonder what those Americans will think when the tax increases are implemented and keep increasing. When the deficit hits 25 trillion or more, and this government can't borrow enough to sustain its glutenous overspending, and people are giving more of their paycheck(if they even have one) to the government, the incentive to work becomes a disincentive, and the tax base dwindles even further. I always laugh when I hear Obama say he is going to tax the rich, when he knows that the rich are leaving this country in droves. Over 1800 gave up their citizenship last year, and more will be giving it up in the future. It is the working middle class that supports this economy, not the rich. If you don't believe me, just ask Warren Buffett.
It was hilarious to read about a couple of U.S. senators, Schumer and Casey, screaming for legislation called the Ex-Patriot Act, to keep the tax dodgers from ever returning to the U.S., which is absolutely laughable when we have millions simply walking across our borders every year. These politicians have to be the biggest idiots in the world, and the lack of their rational decision-making abilities will be a death knell for the entire system, so we'd all better be stocking up on ammo before Homeland Security orders another 450 million rounds of 40 caliber hollow points.
It is no wonder that God will eventually decide to purge this earth of its abominable infestation.
Ron Paul did not have a chance to win Nebraska is you count the votes of Nebraska Republicans. Mitt Romney won every county by getting an average of 71% or the vote. Ron Paul won only 1 of 1,785 precincts (plus tieing for first in another) and that was with 3 votes in each precinct. The chance of Paui winning Nebraska was a dream for Paul supporters and the liberal media.
@Sandnomad - yeah education is a bloated unnecessary department. Because what America needs is even less educated people running around.
mdsj, that is precisely what we have now. The federal Department of Education is extremely bloated and has not increased the educational level of the youth of this country, since its inception. If you check the "facts", the U.S. is very far down the list educationally and continues to fall.
Education is much better managed by states, and states should not be forced to follow federal mandates that have failed miserably and have actually encouraged cheating and dishonesty by faculty and staff to meet their required quotas. As a former educator, I can assure you that there are many aspects of big government that need to be modified, and the Department of Education is one of them.
Ron Paul is still better than Mitt and Barack combined.
@mdsj
Couldn't agree more. GOP handed this one to Obama
A number of conservatives, such as pundits Bill Kristol and George Will and GOP politicians such as former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and primary rival Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, have demanded that Romney release his tax returns. And now the right-leaning National Review Online released an editorial stating that Romney needs to release them.
What are you hiding, Romney? My guess is that one or more years you paid no or only minimal taxes. It is that slick Wall Street way which upsets most of the hardworking blue collar Americans. This is the same Wall Street arrogance which brought us toxic assets (and consequently the Great Recession) and now Libor.
Why do pollsters disagree so much?
There is certainly some disagreement – even in final polls just before an election, but when you average all of the polls, you tend to get a better overall picture – probably because you are then greatly enlarging the size of the 'sample', thus minimizing the 'margin of error'.
One of the best sources in this regard is Realclearpolitics.com, which is an 'average of the polls'. Their accuracy over the last two Presidential Elections (2004 and 2008) has been quite good – beating all of the major pollsters, although they do have a slight Democratic bias.
One caveat that needs to be made with regard to Realclearpolitics.com, however, is that in the process of averaging polls, they 'mix apples and oranges' to some extent, which distorts reality – For example, they may combine some polls of 'All Adults' with polls of 'Registered Voters', and other polls of 'Likely Voters'. This can result in significant errors when estimating an upcoming election because Pollsters recognize that polls of 'All Adults' are typically biased towards Democrats by about 7% (when compared with actual election results), and polls of 'Registered Voters' are also biased in favor of Democrats, but with a smaller margin of about 4% (see link below for an explanation). All major pollsters recognize that polls of 'Likely Voters' are the best indicator of election results, but most of them don't switch to 'Likely Voters' until about a month before the elections – to avoid an embarrassing result when their final poll is compared to actual results..
If you look at the poll average issued daily by Realclearpolitics and make the adjustments for 'Adults' and 'Registered Voters', you actually will find an amazing consistency among pollsters. For example, on July 17, 2012, the Realclearpolitics' average of 'Likely Voters' polls shows Romney with a 2% lead, and if you 'adjust' the polls of 'Adults' and 'Registered Voters' for the average bias in those polls, they would also show Romney with about a 2% lead over Obama, even though their overall average favors Obama by about 2% because of the 'Adult' and 'Registered Voters' mix.
Of course, these polls change constantly, and we'll get a much clearer picture as the election approaches.
http://www.polimerican.com/adults-vs-registered-vs-likely-voters/
One last point for those who want to make a 'guess' as to the favorite at any point in time is the 'adjustment' for 'Undecided Voters', which most pollsters say are about 7% of the electorate at this point in time. Studies have shown that when there is an Incumbent running for election, most of them 'break for the challenger' by anywhere from 65% to 85% (see link below)- typically they are 'Undecided' because of dissatisfaction with the Incumbent, but just haven't made that final commitment to vote against them. If this holds true in 2012, then that could add anywhere from 2% to 5% to Romney's total . At this point in time, it appears that Obama could be in serious trouble.
http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2004/10/the_incumbent_r.html
Sorry Doctor Paul, Sarah Palin, Tea Party in general..
You have all been useful pawns, but they have no use for you now and will try and closet all original thought until after the election... at which point the Governor may either retroactively retire, or self deport..
Obama has never been a governor.
Romney has never been President - and never will be.
Romney is just a bull on parade. It is terribly sad that he still denies his Hispanic roots. That was his last chance to be human. It is tragically sad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-58-36lSqG4
"It is terribly sad that he still denies his Hispanic roots."
Romney denies everything about himself. His two biggest accomplishments are Bain and Romney-care. He runs away from both. He's a Mormon. He tries to hide that. He walks around acting like Joe 6-pack. Hey Mitt -- you've never done your own laundry in your entire life. Get rid of the blue jeans. You're a coat and tie guy -- not a blue jean guy. Stop trying to be this hard right tea bag person. That's not who you are. You're a moderate. Bottom line --- stop acting so phony.
TNSEVOL - Apparently you don't have a very high level of perception.
Charlie - Having parents born in Mexico doesn't make one Hispanic. How many Presidents HAVE been Joe Six Pack? I'd prefer someone with an education and a business leadership background instead of a drug-using basketball wannabe. But Obama is great at using slang and a ghetto dialect when he needs to.
Republicans are not an inclusive party. They walk in goosestep together. There agenda is one of racial and wealth divisiveness and fascism. They kidnap the word freedom all the while trying to grow government by putting it in your bedroom, place of worship, growing the military and slowly turning into a police state. However, if they would pay attention to their own fascist tendencies they should take note that history proves fascism turns into a totalitarian government quickly and then everyone, including the wealthy, loses until a bloody revolution commences.
What an absolute nutjob!
Ana - I'd be interested to know your thoughts on black, women, gay, and poor republicans...? Are you under the impression that all republicans are rich and white? Or is it that you think, say, black republicans registered so they could take themselves down? ... BANANA(s) is correct!
Are you under the impression that all republicans are rich and white? Nobody is under that impression. The impression we have is that lower and middle-class Republicans are rolling over and playing dead.
Anna... I have to agree with you on how this country is drifting toward fascism. We have police forces equipted with riot gear, pepper spray, tasers and tear gas ready to put down any peaceful demonstration. The industrial-military complex is running much of the country and impacting our foreign policies. The theocrats who want to turn this country into a Quasi-Sharia state by subjecting everyone to their Christian beliefs by denying women equality and relegating them to the status of scriptual chattel.
In Utah a national datacenter is being built that will capture every Email, telephone call, foreign or domestic. Orwell saw it coming but was a little bit early in his prognosis.
We have the propanga machine already in place in the form of Fox News.
It is interesting that there are black, female, gay, poor, Muslim and Latino republicans. It's also interesting that herpes, Osama bin Laden and congress have an approval rating of a little over 10%. Who are those people?
AnaBanana You said it. Your right they took the word freedom and made a joke of it. Nothing says small government better than a vaginal probe. Those guys need anal probe to find their brains. Than you get the old catholic guys telling women what to do with their bodies, when they can't keep their hands off their alter boys. If you don't believe in their god you have no morals. But its ok for the preachers to take countless dollars from rich & poor than get a free pass on taxes. Talk of no morals. Its time for the churches to belly up to the bar and pay their fair share. Also look at the cops. They don't look like cops no more. They have the black baggy uniforms. They are starting to look like more like military than ever. If you don't agree with them the right wing on policy its their way or no way. For a good example look at the smear tactics they are using on the President. Right know all they say is doom & gloom. It must be sad to live like that. How do you republicans do it? By the way your guy Rmoney is a patsy for the rich. Rmoney is only concerned about them, the rich taking of the rich.
Jim... You forgot to include Dick Cheney in your list of things that have low approval ratings.
Chuck - I don't know if that comment was aimed at me...?
Puto Romney is an insult to Latinos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-58-36lSqG4
To AnaBanana-1782128
That is so far wrong! Take a look at the votes in Senate last year 90+% of Democrats voted the same way in 189 of 235 votes. 90+% of Republicans voted together in only 138 of 235 votes. Now looking at the facts, which party walks in goosestep together? BTW, that data is from the voting data available on www.senate.gov if you want to take the time to research it.
What??? You are confused
I feel sorry for your dog.
Sorry Doctor Paul, Sarah Palin, Tea Party in general..
You have all been useful pawns, but they have no use for you now and will try and closet all original thought until after the election... at which point the Governor may either retroactively retire, or self deport..
I have a feeling this isn't quite over...
Detriot Storm,
Paul will hold a alternative rally in Tampa with music.
He did this in 2008 in ST.Paul. M. Bachmann even attended Paul's rally and lavished praise upon him.
And of course you have Trump arrivng in Tampa after his "Stateman of the Year " Award the previous week from Sarastoa GOP club.
Comedy Central and SNL will have a field day with this convention.
MN Nice - Trump received a "Stateman of the Year" award? How much did that cost him? OMG - the GOP is totally desperate!
Obama/Biden 2012
Trump received a "Stateman of the Year" award? How much did that cost him?
Statesman of the year, or "Joke" of the year?
I may not agree with Dr. Paul's ideas, but I do respect the man for the strength of his convictions. I don't think these kinds of shenanigans are going to do the GOP and favors come November. Disenfranchising a segment of their base is either going to keep them away from the polls or to vote out of spite. This "tow the line" mentality is not going to help them in key states.
Detroit Storm, I agree with you 100%, I've said all along, Ron Paul supporters are not going to vote for anyone but Dr. Paul. I know some Ron Paul supporters, they are in it to the end. Could be very interesting to watch.
....but they will never never vote for Obama because he represents everything they are against.
The republicans are expecting their base to vote out of hatred for Obama.
Why would it be unreasonable to expect RP supporters to vote out of hatred for the Republican Party which disenfranchised them?
Well, tek, Obama is busy locking up the dead pet vote
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018684401_voterforms14.html
Now, before you get all red in the face and start yelling that when those dead pets show u at the polls, they'll be refused because they cannot sign their names, (although, who knows what happens in pet heaven), bear in mind that no such requirement will stop them from voting by mail.
Nor will it stop the many non-citizens, who may, based on receiving registrations with their names already filled in, from believing that, WOW!, Obama got them the right to vote.
On the same note- Florida won the early round on the vote purge, so Obama decided that he'd better let them have that Homeland Security data they were looking for- and the purge is on, as the law suit was lost. So much for Obama's margin of victory in Florida in 2008. He sure will not be able to repeat.
What Paul was doing was the shenanigans, this time.
Ron Paul's main goal was to gain power in the party, and the second was to be the nominee if the things worked his way.
He was trying to undercut the support of the other candidates by getting his own people appointed or elected as delegates. Most delegates were "soft" commited, so if he got people favorable to him, they could vote for him instead of the way the state vote was cast. It's a rule legal maneuver but none the less a back door approach.
Romney put an end to it all by protecting what he had fought for.
no joe, no bo, nj Not going to stop dead Republicans from voting either. After all, they are not what the Republican governors are looking for.
NJNB,
Why get red in the face?
There are more UFO sightings per year than allegations of voter fraud.
My money says the same people report both.
Detroit - I always have trouble with people who say,"I disagree with every thing he stands for, but I have to respect him for the strength of his convictions." Do you respect Hitler or Pol Pot or Osama bin Laden or Charlie Manson for "the strength of their convictions?"
A vote for a third party candidate, a write-in vote, or a withheld vote is tantamount to a vote for Obama. I would imagine that between Labor Day and election day Obama will slowly but steadily widen the gap in his favor. What remains to be seen is if the GOP focus turns away from Romney in favor of promoting the many congressional races. Obama can still prevail against Romney and his money but Democratic congressional candidates will have a hard time running against that much money if it is thrown into their races.
"I may not agree with Dr. Paul's ideas, but I do respect the man for the strength of his convictions."
Every time I hear something like that said about someone I cringe. I have a question. Would you respect Hitler for the strength of his convictions? How about Tim McVeigh? Do you respect him for his convictions? No doubt -- Hitler stood up for and fought for his convictions. Same with Tim McVeigh. I'm not comparing Ron Paul to either of those men in any way. It just seems to me that what a person's convictions are is more important than respecting a person for the strength of those convictions
Okie Joe - thats a fallacious comparison. You can respect someone you disagree with if they are articulate and not hateful, and I'm pretty sure the number of people killed on Ron Paul's orders is zero.
@ Jim in texas
"A vote for a third party candidate, a write-in vote, or a withheld vote is tantamount to a vote for Obama"
I hear alot of conservative voters saying this now.
Wow that speaks loads about your supporting party if any vote but a GoP vote is a vote for Obama. Not only does it show a lack of confidence in your party, your candidate, and their supporting interests ... but it also shows that Tea Partiers amount to just pawns, means to an end of regaining power, its not like Romney represents tea party interests, or anyone say anything supportive about him without using the word Obama. Sorry tea party you were useful pawns in fighting "libs" but now its time to step in line and serve big money interests, because you hate Obama for all the parrot talking points we provided you.
In the same week a petulant Mitt Romney demands President Obama apologize for attacking him as an outsourcer at Bain, Romney sends his thugs to kick Ron Paul off the Speaker's platform at the Republican convention. Makes Romney's cries of "unfair!"sound a bit hollow.
Romney sure had a busy weekend, didn't he, Amy? Between whining about the Obama campaign playing hardball and playing hardball himself, Mitt must have whiplash. Plus he had to work on that 2011 tax return and make sure his dressage horse (also known as "Tax Shelter") was ready for the Olympics. Wonder if the horse's equipment will be made in the U.S.A.?
Steeler Fan - I think Romney spent the weekend curled up in a ball with Anne rubbing his head telling him "it's all going to be alright. Remember, it's our turn and the truth doesn't matter if we have all the gullible Republicans behind us." Unfortunately for them, all the gullible Republicans appear to be getting tired of more s**t from Romney. Lots of them are saying he needs to come clean about his Bain dealings and his taxes. Talk about a bad month for Mitt - July just doesn't seem to be his month!
Obama/Biden 2012
@Seeking..
And hopefully Aug, Sep Oct and Nov will be even worse for him.....just imagine when they let loose the heavy cannons!
Romney is playing rope a dope like Muhammed Ali.
DB - no Romney is just playing dope!
Romney hasn't seen anything yet. So far this is just batting practice and he can't seem to even hit those pitches. Come the debates he won't know what hit him.
Pat Buchanan said it bets. Romney is not a political athlete. He can't hit a fast-ball in the middle of the plate even when he knows it's coming.
I would like to invite the Ron Paul supporters to come join with Organizing For America to defeat Mitt Romney!!
President Obama 2012
If you want to send a message to the Republican party that they can't win without you...
then that's definitely one way to get your message across.
Romney lost in 2008. Two time loser coming up!
American's lost in 2008 too. Hope the change comes in 2012.
I'm hoping this is the last time this loser will run. Next time, nut jobs, don't settle for a mealy mouthed, two faced, vulture capital liar. It will be easier to get votes if your candidate doesn't suck.
What did they lose, Watt? What rights? What finances? What did you yourself lose that makes you hate the president so much?
2008 was the year the economy collapsed. But not everybody lost. The super rich did very well.
Actually Jim, it had already collapsed. Just took awhile to show up is all.
If you look at the calendar very closely, you'll find that George W. Bush was President for the entire year, 2008, as well as the previous year when the real slide began.
But ya gotta give GW and the Big Dick credit ~ with the aid of bailing wire and elephant snot, they managed to keep the wheels stuck on the wagon until they could get the Hell out of town. All of 2008 was devoted to that task. No one was any more thrilled to see somebody else ~ ~ ~ anybody else ~ ~ ~ assume the office than GW and Cheney. Things reached critical mass in October 2008 and it was quite a juggle to keep all of the balls in the air until they could escape. They did it! That may be GW's greatest accomplishment, come to think of it.
"2008 was the year the economy collapsed"
The collapse started in late 2005. That's part of why Republicans lost both houses of Congress in the 2006 election.
People here don't understand the whole dynamics of this situation. Ron Paul has won 4 states. Minnesota, Louisiana, Iowa, and Maine. He has a plurality of delegates in colorado, nevada, alaska, virginia (most likely). Being nominated from the floor is not a bound vote. The chairman according to rules has to announce from the floor what the delegates of the state nominate. This is where the uproar will occur because the chairman at the microphone will not go with the wishes of the delegates of his state with is against party rules. Romney is going to do this because his whole election at the state conventions has been thuggery. They have been passing out fake slates, miscounting votes, and ignoring Robert's rule of order (very common by republicans). If the chairman ignores the wishes of the delegates which is not a bound vote they will be loud on national tv. People need to realize the only bound vote is the actual vote for the presidential nomination. The placing someone into nomination is NOT a bound vote. I hope people understand the rules. If the GOP follow the rules then Ron Paul will receive his 15 minute speech in front of the delegates. Knowing the history of this primary Romney will do everything illegal to make this not happen.
It has been Ron Paul not Mitt Romney who has resorted to "thuggery" at the state conventions. Ron Paul's strategy has been to consistntly snub the voting public in order to snag delegates at the state conventions that he never legitimately won through the caucus/primary process.
It's Rebublicans who have been wronged by Paul and his worshipful following, not the other way around. Republicans realized long ago that Ron Paul and his clan don't care about their vote if they can legally (but unethically) skirt around the rules to rack up delegates.
Key words here: If the GOP follow the rules. As has been evidenced, the party changes its own rules as it fits their agenda.
Obama/Biden 2012 FORWARD!
4 more 4 44!
There is some concern that the convention will not be a rubber stamp for Romney. If this concern were not present, some states would not be requiring their delegates to sign loyalty oaths before being seated in the delegation. The fix has been in for several months, long before Gingrich and Santorum bailed. Ron Paul is nothing more than an antagonist at this point ~ but even that could create a turmoil. A helluva lot can happen between now and the convention. Republicans are committed to winning ~ and if it becomes apparent that Mitt can't get the job done then strange things can happen.
perhaps Ron Paul should just cheat to get his name on the ballot like Obama did in Indiana. That must really smart all you Clinton supporters....
I like when the republicans cannibalize each other. if they can do that to their own what they wont do to others. Obama run with it, give Romney what he deserves his contradcitory statements and foul ups deserve the exposure he is getting . Mc Cain after the persusal of his tax papers realized he would be a liability ,{ though Palin was an albatross around his neck} so he ran from him. In the primary he refused to release the tax papers, he was forced to . Newt called him a liar and Santorum said he was the worst person in the USA to run for president. They had good reasons to say these things .
Oh....just shut up and vote for Romney. You know you're going to, and Romney does too.
The Ron Paul supporters I know will write in Paul, they won't vote for Romney (especially NOW.)
That's what I'll be doing Amy!
No I'm not going to sam, and like Amy said no one else I know is going to either.
There is a reason that the Romney camp doesn't want a "little debate"...because it will open a fresh can of worms on an already growing steaming pile. For all Obama's ills, Romney and Company are either shooting themselves in the foot, or falling asleep at the pitcher's mound while the opposition steals home plate. It's not just the GOP base Romney must convince...it is the swing voters on the fence who last go around voted for Obama. While Obama may have disillusioned quite a few, it's another matter of getting them to the voting both, and yet another challenge to get them to vote for the GOP and Romney.
Personally I think the GOP missed a good opportunity...they could have let the Nebraska/Paul think play out organically. Instead, this will make them come off as heavies. Nice work.
I well remember the 2008 Democratic convention, when Hillary Clinton put Obama's name up for nomination. It was a stirring moment, and one that brought the party together after a bruising primary. Who's going to put Romney's name up? Donald Trump? Oh, that will be moving.
They are probably drawing straws now.....loser gets to nominate him.....
let's see 2 out of 3,,,,,noooo 3 out 5....nooooo let's try 4 out of 7.....
WM... I like your baseball analogy. I would like to add that a Mitt can be of less protection when you've been playing hardball too much. Things begin to sting when you're catching what the other guy is throwing at you. It starts to hurt especially when you throw the ball his way and he slings it right back at you!
Hardball ain't for sissies who can't stand being stung!
Ron Paul - 2016!!
Starderup - The old boy will probably be dead by 2016!
Mitch McConnell looks like he died a few years ago but he is still the minority leader in the senate. Funny that he is the minority leader and is totally against all minorities like the rest of the republicans.
In 2016, Ron Paul will/would be 81 years old. I'll bet the race for VP will be a barn burner.
Actually, I think he's setting up for his son to inherit the mantle.
I think you're exactly right okie joe it'll be Rand Paul 2016
That is truly to bad for this nation...In reference to the article about our blood soaked bitch...
Blood soaked bitch, where a blue stripped dress or purse just like the misfit crew that followed me into the Caribbean, with the blessing of DOD, so they could plausibly identify themselves before Obama's SOP had to roll them into a ford commercial that seems to be the best place to infer lethal control directed toward our closed society in his snowballing bubble...
A real leader would have cut all @!$%#in ties and put these freaks (that always stand in front of a terrorist to measure themselves) but my government seemed to be the @!$%#in lead with an investigative foundation by the FBI being used to secure this activity until they discovered their may be some seepage and they quickly but their cop hats on...
I would have rather had the psychopathic boyfriend of the girl that appeared on my floor and kept hanging on me put a glass bottle through my throat as the only three big Mexicans on the entire @!$%#in island (that also appeared on my floor) sat on my chest yelling for a doctor, then what I am going through now taking my family under with me...
The health care would have been better anyways if I survived...
All this to protect the perception of rule of law blood soaked bitch because your trash needed to reduce the risk of one innocent man by .0000001 % who had his head scanned -via a lethal procedure- for no reason by our global pile of @!$%# -without one fact to justify it- by collapsing an exponentially greater swath of society in front of what he was being forced to say while being maintained in an artificial state a shade less than torture -using the collapse of their rights to both suppress this deepening and widening criminal activity and actually add to it to steer me into the frame work of a false profile that would latter be back filled with pure torture should this repulsive @!$%#s fail...
From holders point of view the point of murder is better monitored as a foreign crew assumes it but since our entire democratic structure collapsed for no reason under him why not type up another classified nation wide constitutional opinion to allow one man to be tortured to death to save the perception of rule of law keeping a lethal injection from his arm if any court only read even the summary...
These @!$%#s were so bad that the two directly across the room from me, trying to befriend me with the most arrogant American mannerisms, broke down into perfect Hebrew when I wasn't looking when when of their tails arrived...Another one started to think I was part of her @!$%#in crew and took a liking to me until she found out what her job was and she couldn't even look at me the rest of the time...
The only thing protecting your repulsive comedy show of freaks is the most powerful and sadistic and immoral government on the face of the @!$%#in Earth where the same cowardly shame and perverted ignorance that makes every Senator worry about the position they were sunk into over the collapse of a democracy to hold a society at bay until the proof of a nation collapsing that occurred for no reason is dismissed by full blown torture that the FBI spots, is the same shame and ignorance that lets you have any influence over this nation where you take pride in always standing in the shadows of the most overt @!$%#s on the face of the earth hiding the second most repulsive and pathetic covert @!$%#s on the face of the Earth because now every US senator -that can't stand on anything else except you pointing out who those bad evil guys are, joins you...
What a strange little world you created Poet when all I wanted was a little pleasant vacation...but should I survive the next few months Jew(I know your memory is forever with you twisted @!$%#s) guess where I will be sitting..
Anyway, the only good American intelligence officer or counter intelligence agent is the one that doesn't show up to work...
Rich - WTF?
GT-2021701
Rich is obviously one of Bev's other posting names!!
Rich-Please go to the grocery store and buy some more tin foil my ALCOA stock isn't doing so well.
I want some.
Well, Paul can fix this real easy. Just run as an independent, or see if he can still be put on the ballot on the libertarian ticket.
10 Reasons to not Vote for Romney!!!
1.) Romney will bring back the same Financial Practices that brought our country to its knees Economically.
2.) Romney will bailout the Banks again and once more heaps the cost onto the Tax Payers without holding them Accountable for their actions as it has been in the First Bailout.
3.) Romney will Phase out all Taxes on Corporations and the Top 10% of income earners and Accelerate the expansion of the Corporate Welfare State in his first 4 years leaving the Middle Class and Poor to pay for this Expanded Governmental Spending.
4.) Romney will Declare War on Iran based on False Evidence just as GW Bush did with Iraq War and will invoke the draft to man the military for this Iranian War with exclusions given to congress to hand out deferments to the Well-Connected and Wealthy draftees .
5.) Romney will sign Massive Defense Contracts coasting Tax Payers Tens of Trillions of dollars for shooty equipment unable to be used on the battle field.
6.) Romney will sign into law giving Corporations an Annual Tax holiday on all monies made overseas and making this provision permanent.
7.) Romney will sign into law a provision that makes it illegal to peaceably protest or redress the Government.
8.) Romney will sign into law a provision making it illegal to sue a Corporation for any wrong doing (Harm to the public though pollution contamination, employee abuse or fraud)
9.) Romney will sign into law a change to the Voting laws making it lawful for states to deny lawful citizens the right to vote based on Party affiliations, Economic Statues and Sexual Orientation
10.) Romney will sign into law a provision that makes it a Crime to question or protest any acts committed by the President or Congress .
Romney will Privatize the Social Security System and moving recipients money to non- FDIC insured accounts controlled by the Banks and Hedge Fund Manager with recipient’s having no control or say over their individual account plus allowing the Managers of these accounts to charge Annual Management Fees, Trading fees and Commissions to be paid out of every account for each trade made by the managers while mandating to keep all regulatory over site from being place over these accounts.
and that's just on day 1!........
But what about the fact he will create a gazillion jobs per hour?
No, Social Security will be acquired by Bain Capital and sold to China.
Next, the Dept. of Defense will be outsourced to China to save a lot of money.
@ tek: yeah, in India and China! Don't the current stats show that each country has a gazillion residents?
Obama/Biden 2012 FORWARD!
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The Republican Party has no big tent. It does have a nice beach mansion in the Hampton s for their 1% that are VIP's, but sorry Charlie, no room for any Southern Tea Party folks, your just not their type. The American public is beginning to see the hypocrisy in this party and Mitt and his gang will have to wait for another day unless they disenfranchise the American Public to the level that they lose the House as well. As so many are saying, "This isn't your father's Republican Party anymore" and my father was a Republican and is turing over in his grave to see all of this.
The GOP/TP has a tent, alright. It's a pup tent that the circus that they are tries to fit into.
if only this website would have reported all the votes that were cast in the primaries 'against' obama when there was another candidate running on the ballot.
Bobama : are you kidding yourself or Just lying the same as so many other republicans ! Where is your evidence of this ? Fact's only ! Not if we had facts this is what we believe !
School - It actually happened in Oklahoma, the cesspool of redneckism. Obama received less than half the votes cast. The others were spread out among five other people.
The Repubican party has developed as a core competency the ability to limit voting rights. Normally this is targeted to voters who they think may tilt to the Democratic party, but they can certainly apply to their own if they stray from the path....
Democracy is a foreign subject in the Republican Party. There are many Americans, they demonstrate, that could do without democracy too. Republicans have gone from opposing Democrats to opposing democracy itself. So, don't be the member of a minority or a woman if you want your rights preserved.
Maybe it's because we're a republic and not a democracy?
Romney is supposed to be so sure that he has the nomination but does he? If he is sure than the enterance of Dr. Paul shouldn't matter. The Paulites might make a little noise and a few silly demands (Shakespeare calld dumb shows and noise) but as a serious threat, no. I say let them play their games, shoot off their mouths, make their scenes, parades and all that stuff as it would be fun to watch but don't take them seriously as Paul has the chance of an ice cube in the Sahara of getting a major party nomination for President let alone win. People aren't that nuts!
How many Paul supporters were beat up by Mitt's jackbooted thugs?
Well the republicans are busy purging voters in battle ground states ! And now making sure that no other person can participate in the political process in their own party convention ! Yes sir those republicans certainly what to win regardless of the honesty of their party or their candidate Romney ! Independent voters take notice !
It appears that every major real media outlet is now questioning Romneys honesty .This now includes media members from his own republican party and many congress member of his party are also asking that Romney Step up and answer these question that appear to be lie's on his part! I see internal implosion in the works by the Romney campaign !
This has got to have John Boehner up to a gallon of bourbon a day by now! The man's eyes and nose are the same shade of red!
Obama/Biden 2012 FORWARD!
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