Hey Mitt:

Show us those tax returns, what are you hiding?

the right winger trolls are out in force today. All you can say its Obama"s fault. If you think all this started in Obama's watch your all wrong and you know it.

TonyBeerM might be accurate. Giving our allies copters compatible with those that were around actually makes fiscal sense. You don't want to give our allies our latest stuff when they get used against us so often.

Save that stuff for our own heroes.

Contrast this with the waste of trillions by the Cheney Administration outsourcing everything to Halliburton and Xe.

Let me ask you this, if M.T. Suit loves America so much, why has he devoted so much energy to developing outsourcing strategies for American companies he owned and then storing the profits from those efforts in off-shore accounts? Listening to Romney sing America The Beautiful is like taking anger management classes from Yosemite Sam.

@NorthernMI - couldn't get past your opening salvo, "That because Obama already sold us to China! Over a TRILLION dollar's over budget abd borrowing more."

Wow - do you have any idea who's borrowed monies funded our 'unfunded' Iraq war...None other than former President Bush. Bring yourself up to date....those monies came from China...who essentially now owns us. Fuzzy Math/Economics DBA former President Bush - Cheney - Rumsfield and the Texas Posse from down on the ranch.

The news that President Bush's war on terrorism soon will have cost the U.S. taxpayers $1 trillion — and counting — is unlikely to spread much Christmas cheer in these tough economic times. A trio of recent reports — none by the Bush Administration — suggests that sometime early in the Obama presidency, spending on the wars started since 9/11 will pass the trillion-dollar mark. Even after adjusting for inflation, that's four times more than America spent fighting World War I, and more than 10 times the cost of 1991's Persian Gulf War (90% of which was paid for by U.S. allies). The war on terrorism looks set to surpass the costs the Korean and Vietnam wars combined, topped only by World War II's price tag of $3.5 trillion.

The cost of sending a single soldier to fight for a year in Afghanistan or Iraq is about $775,000 — three times more than in other recent wars, says a new report from the private but authoritative Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA). A large chunk of the increase is a result of the administration's cramming new military hardware into the emergency budget bills it has been using to pay for the wars. These costs, of course, pale alongside the price paid by the nearly 5,000
U.S. troops who have lost their lives in the conflicts — not to mention the wounded — and the families of all the casualties. And President Bush insists that their sacrifice and the expenditure on the wars have helped prevent a repeat of 9/11. "We could not afford to wait for the terrorists to attack again," he said last week at the Army War College. "So we launched a global campaign to take the fight to the terrorists abroad, to dismantle their networks, to dry up their financing and find their leaders and bring them to justice."

But many Americans may suffer a moment of sticker shock from the conclusions of the CSBA report and similar assessments from the Government Accounting Office (GAO) and Congressional Research Service (CRS), which make clear that the nearly $1 trillion already spent is only a down payment on the war's long-term costs. The trillion-dollare figure does not, for example, include long-term health care for veterans, thousands of whom have suffered crippling wounds, or the interest payments on the money borrowed by the Federal Government to fund the war. The bottom lines of the three assessments vary: the CSBA study says $904 billion has been spent so far, while the GAO says the Pentagon alone has spent $808 billion through last September. The CRS study says the wars have cost $864 billion, but CRS didn't factor inflation into its calculations.

Sifting through Pentagon data, the CSBA study breaks down the total costs of the war on terrorism as $687 billion for Iraq, $184 billion for Afghanistan and $33 billion for homeland security. By 2018, depending on how many U.S. troops remain in Afghanistan and Iraq, the total cost is projected to likely be between $1.3 trillion and $1.7 trillion. On the safe assumption that the wars are being waged with borrowed money, interest payments raise the cost by an additional $600 billion through 2018.

Shortly before the Iraq war began, White House economic adviser Larry Lindsey earned a rebuke from within the Administration when he said the war could cost as much as $200 billion. "It's not knowable what a war or conflict like that would cost," Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld said. "You don't know if it's going to last two days or two weeks or two months. It certainly isn't going to last two years."

According to the CSBA study, the Administration has fudged the war's true costs in two ways. Borrowing money to fund the wars is one way of conducting them on the cheap, at least in the short term. But just as pernicious has been the Administration's novel way of budgeting for them. Previous wars were funded through the annual appropriations process, with emergency spending — which gets far less congressional scrutiny — used only for the initial stages of a conflict. But the Bush Administration relied on such supplemental appropriations to fund the wars until 2008, seven years after invading Afghanistan and five years after storming Iraq.

"For these wars, we have relied on supplemental appropriations for far longer than in the case of past conflicts," says Steven Kosiak of the CSBA, one of Washington's top defense-budget analysts. "Likewise, we have relied on borrowing to cover more of these costs than we have in earlier wars — which will likely increase the ultimate price we have to pay." That refusal to spell out the full cost can lead to unwise spending increases elsewhere in the federal budget or unwarranted tax cuts. "A sound budgeting process forces policymakers to recognize the true costs of their policy choices," Kosiak adds. "Not only did we (BUSH) not raise taxes, we cut (unfunded) taxes and significantly expanded spending."

I didn't vote for Obama first time ( wanted Hillary)..but will this time..he's a true president,family man, a real normal citizen and not a greedy SOB like Romney the greedy part of our countries problems!

Republicans and rich azz's..start with same letter!

Throughout the campaign so far, we have see the faces of children standing in the sweltering heat as well as in the pouring rain, just to get a glimpse of President Obama. This is the first president they know. And for the rest of their in all likelihood, the only president they'll ever have the chance to see in person.

There is something very special taking place as you look at the photos over at The Obama Diary of President Obama while he campaigns.

In 2008 we saw similar images, only then he was a candidate for the presidency. He was someone different from all the usual suspects, and he was someone we all wanted to stop and listen to. He struck a cord with us and so we came out in the millions to campaign and donate on his behalf. We all shared his passion and vision for our future.

He was at all times focused and on fire back then. But it was something more. It was the sense of decency in this man that we all recognized immediately. It was the sense of intelligence and determination to turn the sinking ship known as our nation around.

It is now 2012 and he is our president. You can see the difference from 2008.

He seems relaxed and happy to meet people all around the country as he travels.

He is aware that it has not been an easy 4 years for either him or us. But I sense a different campaign; I sense a together we stand atmosphere from both the president and the crowds. This is a campaign that has been built on trust, respect and a sense that neither he nor the American people will walk away until we've finished the job we started back in 2008.

These crowds are not standing in line for hours just to see a candidate. They're standing in line to see their president.

And all the money in the world thrown at him won't change this one little fact. We are sticking together.

He is our president. And we are rooting for him to succeed just as he is rooting for all of us to succeed. His decency remains solid. He is standing taller now than he did in 2008. He has weathered the storms with grace, dignity, warmth and humor. And always always with that smile that literally lights up the world.

And these children will never ever forget the day they saw him. They may not remember the heat or the rain, but they will remember him.

Because even they recognize that something special in this man. Even they recognize that this man, our president, is on their side.

############

We Americans have a very bad habit of looking the other way when things don't seem right. The banking industry, the Iraq War and the collapse of the middle and working classes are just three examples.

Now more than ever is not the time to simply look the other way. Please invest in our president. He is a man worth investing in, as it is he, and only he, who invested in us.

And be forever grateful that instead of having Karl Rove on our side, we have someone like David Axelrod on our side, whose job it is to beat back the lies of a republican party who lack the most elementary honesty. So proud to have him standing with us to.

I must say that even with my disappointments with President Obama, he makes a striking figure talking in the rain. He is a true leader. I just wish he had surrounded himself with better people than Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner. These guys are no good for anything but using for chum if you were fishing. The fish probably wouldn't even like them. And Christina Romer??? Really? But that is a really good picture. Kudos to him and the photographer. That's good.

John, nobody counted on the republicans not wanting our country to prosper.

The republicans voted down another jobs bill just a couple days ago. Then republicans don't want tax cuts for the 98% of Americans.

You have been watching them, the republicans have gotten hundreds of millions of dollars from the rich who we were told that would suffer irreparable harm if they were charged a small surcharge on their second million to get Americans working again. No money for jobs, but plenty of money to plaster propaganda everywhere to get republicans elected who have promised Romney and his rich friends larger and permanent tax cuts.

You can't be thinking very hard if you think republicans care about America or jobs.

tonybeerm . . . .

Not the old, washed up teabags that litter a Romney audience.

Who knows what a true Romney audience looks like? They can never pan out far enough to show that there just aren't that many people there! Why stand in line all day to hear absolutely nothing but hot air?

Hey Norm

You have the unassailable freedom to lie if you want. I'm just letting you know nobody buys it. It always makes me laugh when partisans call themselves 'independent'.

Nice to know that the President can sing in the rain. Romney would have issues over the size of the drops and the umbrella.

46%/46% poll today in Florida today. Obama needs to be out in the sun and beach doing the same thing.....

The religious cultist, Romney, has lied about serving and working for Bain Capital after 1999. Even today on the Today Show he took credit for Bain's job creation in 2000-2001, but not for its outsourcing in 2002. (Double standard on lying?) Check his tax records and he was getting huge checks from the company as the head CEO. Liar. S o B.

It is truly sad to read the [I hate Obama] posts made by people who are obviously trolls paid by Karl Rove. President Obama has done more for the average American citizen in three and a half years than all of the Republican Presidents have done in the last forty. I hope the money you pathetic, traitorous right wing trolls recieve to lie to your fellow Americans brings you nothing but grief.

Jimmy, Romney should address the Auto unions since he told the country the Automakers should just be left to fail. That would be a great encore from the NAACP thrashing............

Romney crowds are picked out, checked and then bused in to the clown show, even with that they need to use a cheering machine like the ones they use on comedy shows because he's so boring.

Pat Boston MA. GREAT Post!

All I can say is you would never see Republicans lining up in the rain to hear Mitt Romney speak. These waited for hours to hear the President of Our United States speak. Even if Mitt was to speak to republicans in the rain, he would have rain machines flown in and set up that would rain all around him but not on him and charge the republicans coming to see him $20 for a umbrella to use during the fake rain. Oh and the Umbrella's would be made in china sweat shops that he only bought for $2 each. Cause that's the great kinda guy Mitt is.

Romney and the rest of the Republicans swear that if we just cut taxes on the rich they will create jobs. That is absurd! People hire workers when they expect that those employees will make them money. Republicans have used tax policy and other means to ensure that virtually all wealth gains of the past two decades have gone to the rich and to corporations (many of which, although very profitable, pay absolutely no tax). Corporations, in spite of a slow economy, have more money available than at any time in the history of the world. That should, according to Republicans, result in massive hiring. It has not. Why? Because the middle class has been under-compensated for their labor by the wealthy.

The top tax rate during the Eisenhower administration was 91%. We had basically full employment because we had equitable distribution of wealth and the middle class had money with which to purchase goods and services. It was also during the Eisenhower administration that we were investing in infrastructure in this country, namely the Interstate highway system. That created jobs and our economy was healthy. Cool. It would work again, but the "just say NO" Republicans will not allow it.

wtfjes66 - it was ment as sarcasm at Mitt. I would have waited hours myself to hear The President speak. I wouldn't give Mitt a glance.

PRESIDENT OBAMA 2012.

Hey, SeekingSanity:

Pigs can fly or not, I am an expert, but you are right. The party on the right is never right on this.

wtfjes66

Right ...... Republicans are so smart that they believe that giving more money to rich people will create jobs. Do you believe that nonsense? If so, I am sure you also believe that global climate change is a lie and that the check is in the mail.

The best defense is offense. Mitt should be exposed ... so voters can make their own judgment.

Obama/Biden 2012

I love the look on the face of that young girl. I haven't always agreed with everything Obama has done as I sometimes thought he compromised too much when he should have pushed more. I have never, however, been less than extremely proud of him as a human being and so proud that he is my President. As we look forward to the debates and as the campaign winds down I am sure that the fire and energy he inspired in 2008 will become stronger and stronger.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!

Wow u all missed the point big time. The nation is going through a drought and god lavishes our president with rain. Well I think god has spoken. Obama is the best president ever. Go ahead., argue with god, i dare you

george pauljohn

There is NO GOD.

@Rightwingwac....you might care to ask BinLaden about that....perhaps many of those senior under his command. You remind me of the phrase....'don't confuse me with the facts....my mind is made up." LOL

There are two main ways to make big money in our country. The first is to create something useful or make something better, and beat out the competition. The second is to destroy your competition and take what they earned for yourself.

Guess which one Romney engaged in?

Rightwingwac

Presumably Women's Army Corps ... but if she married a fella with the last name Job, her name would be?

Maybe the reason he can't accomplish anything is because of all the filibusters the Republicans keep doing. Just the other day they did another filibuster when Obama sent yet another proposal on job creation, tax breaks for small business that make $500,000( he up it from $250,000) or less and keep the tax breaks for the middle class, but as usual the Republicans rejected that one too.

This just proves that the Republicans have from day one will not pass anything that would help Obama and more important this country to get jobs and get the economy running again.

COME NOVEMBER WE WILL NOT ONLY RE-ELECT OBAMA, BUT WILL GET RID OF ALL THE REPUBLICANS AND TEAPARTY, AND THEN MAYBE WE WILL SEE THIS COUNTRY COME BACK FROM ONE OF THE WORST TIMES OF OUR LIVES!!!

For those of you that criticize Obama or Romney...guess what? You are both right! Both sides of this fight represent only themselves and their money men. Neither side represents 98% of us, yet I see all kinds of people that will take it in the shorts defending one or the other. Wake up, America! The country is just about to fall off the edge of the cliff. This must have been what it was like at the end of the Roman Empire. We either kick these parties out or get ready for some really dark days as our country turns into a 'has been' on the world stage.

Snakebone (post 1.37): Thank you for making my case for me. Couldn't have said it better myself! ROFLMAO. The leopard shows his spots!

Actually Laura, they didn't filibuster the tax thingy.... but then you probably already know that, right?

Because of course, if you're going to have a strong opinion about something, you learn all the facts first, right?

Like tax bills cannot be filibustered? Those and the budget can't. But you knew that, right?

And I'm sure you know that there was never a vote, right?

See, the democrats even realized how bad that bill was.

They wouldn't vote for it.

Harry Reid had to put it in the huge pile of bills he cannot politically afford to have come up for a vote.

See, before, the house sent bills to the senate. The senate debated them and made changes, then sent them back to the house.

That's how the government used to work.

Now?

Reid just tables everything. Not the republicans. Harry Reid, democrat.

Because if the republican sponsored bill was a good idea, and dems crossed the aisle to support it, well.....

Then we couldn't blame the republicans for being obstructionists.

The President and the democrats feel it is more important to maintain this political narrative, than it is to do thier jobs.

That's who you are supporting.

A Liar, who knows he lying, but keeps repeating it, over and over.

Sorry Commonsense, but I see that marxist/socialist nonsense spouted constantly and, even though I am not an Obama fan, I just have to ask, "What in the world are you talking about?" Obama has certainly not been moving the country toward socialism. He caved to corporations on his health plan, when he should have followed the socialist road and pushed thru government healthcare like all the other civilized countries in the world. He has been pushing the same militaristic programs as his predecessor. And, like his predecessor, he has bailed corporations that brought us to the edge of ruin. But, somehow, the mindless minions on the other side of the fence seem to think that if they throw the same term about socialism out onto the table enough, people will eventually just assume it is true. Some might...but those with intelligence will see that it is just nonsense. Do yourself a favor and stop to think about both these guys, who they actually represent, what they have actually done to the country, and what they will do to all of us if elected. I am just tired of the lack of reasoning that the vast majority of Americans use before voting.

I James, a progressive liberal, yes: LIBERAL, am grateful that you President Obama have:

Signed 18 tax cuts that mostly benefit small business;

Rescued the U.S. auto industry and did not allow General Motors to become China Motors International;

Gave 10s of millions of Americans who had been denied access to health care opportunities, to participate in an exclusive medical system;

Made each American accountable to have medical coverage so when a medical dilemma or catastrophe hits, the tax payer is NOT left solely paying the bill;

Expanded Pell Grants for college students and the families of working and middle class;

By identifying the Buffett rule: That the richest one percent needs to pay more into a system that has allowed them to prosper into the richest one percent;

the list goes on and on, but your vision of social justice and equality is a refreshing stance from the past divide and conquer of allowing those at the very top to continue their drubbing on the middle and lower folks of this country.

Sincerely,

james

don97524

Your cliche's are old and worn out - get some new ones that you thought up all by yourself - then educate yourself to truth and stop being made a sucker and a zombie by obamas lies and and promises he will never keep - here's a fact for you - 50% of the people in this country are below average, count yourself in that category along with those that voted for obama last time. If you're smart you'll change your vote AND your party affiliation this time, too!

Hey Obama....How about talking about your record, huh? How about you talk about F & F? How about your talk about the jobs you outsourced to Finland, Denmark, China, Mexico and Dominican Republic. Sent them BILLIONS of OUR taxpayer dollars so they could make cars and green products. How about you talk about how your outsourced OUR WHOLE SPACE PROGRAM to the Russians and Muslims????? How about you talk about your membership in a socialist/marxist organization? How about you talk about your thug mentors, Ayers, Reszko, Blaggo? HOW ABOUT YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS, HUH? Do you think your hammering about the exact date, time, and hour Romney cleaned out his desk at Bain MATTERS????

@Joe-3877901

Lets not forget that Mr. Obama bought hundreds of Russian made helicopters for Iraq and Afgahnistan instead of American helicopters. The good old USA purchased them on his watch! Who's outsoursing?

Every modern-day POTUS has engaged in this practice in order to aid an ally but not put American technology into thier hands. Do you really want the Afgans to be using our own (superior) technology in some future millitary action AGAINST us?

kimH-1330542 ......I love the look on the face of that young girl.

Holy Crap on a cracker did you get a load of the girl in that picture - she's either fanatically insane or she's getting ready to take a big bite out of obamas hand - probably both. LMAO.

ROMNEY 2013

Bain capital is not even a drop in the bucket to what Obama sent overseas with his failed stimulus.

Billions of dollars sent overseas.

http://www.obamanomicsoutsourced.com/

hww

Bain capital is not even a drop in the bucket to what Obama sent overseas with his failed stimulus.

Holy crap - the left isn't going to like you very much for blowing their God out of the water and exposing his lies. Good job, thanks!

ROMNEY 2013

I thought Jimmy Carter couldn't be outdone as the worst President in my lifetime but I was mistaken.

Most overused right-wing talking point, and the most disgusting thing about it is that it is a LIE. Much like most of the right wing, low information assertions.

Dubya and Cheney made Jimmy Carter look like Abraham Lincoln.

wtfjes66 - Perhaps you could say Holly Crap again. It must really suck not to have someone in this race for President that you can feel passionate or excited about.

Alright. enough is enough! I voted for Obama but I am tired of hearing about Bain and outsourcing! Okay, maybe the article above didn't cover everything Obama talked about or maybe it did. But Bain,Bush era tax cuts and taxing those more if you make $250,000 is getting to be old news. I disagree with increasing the taxes at $250,000 and up. Many of those people who make that much money are mostly small business and taxing them more because it will probably prevent them from creating more jobs due to the increased revenue they will have to pay, I could agree with increasing taxes for big corporations that make millions and billions because they can handle it. Small business, on the other hand, could go out of business if they can't handle the tax increases. However, it (large corporation increases) may have the opposite effect in increased prices for products, food (lot of farmers make more then $250k per year), gasoline, pharmaceuticals, autos, housing, electronics and many more products. That will have a devastating effect on the economy while tax increases will would freeze most wages to the point that Americans won't be able to afford even the most basic needs. Bain has been talked about for weeks now, tax increases for months.

I just want to know what the hell Obama is going to do about the economy because that is what the majority of what Americans want to know! The tax increases have been in the media for months! Get off the Bain and tax wagon, please! If not I'm just gonna write in Ron Paul!

Well, one thing we know for damned sure that Obama didn't talk about in the rain.....his first term accomplishments!

Death will consume us all, wait your turn.

Lying in the rain, oh, lying in the rain, what a glorious feeling, he's lying in the rain.... Odumbo spewing his diarhea of the mouth and spreading lies again... and the libbies on this site just roll over and say "Amen! He truly is the worst peresident ever, and the Marxist-in-Charge is intent on driving this country to the brink of bankruptcy, while paying off the voters with promises of more entitlements! Do any of you lefties see the folly in this? Are you all swayed by his BS? Take off the blinders.

It certainly would have been helpful if all the Oblahblah but kissers had sought as much info about him during his first run for office as they now seek about Romney.

Well he can kiss Florida goodbye! Guess I was wrong about Rick Scott!

THANK YOU for getting the judge to make Obama release the FRAUDULENT VOTERS LIST to remove them from the voter rolls!

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/feds-ok-fla-access-to-citizens-list

The agreement, made in a letter to Florida Gov. Rick Scott's administration that was obtained by The Associated Press, grants the state access to a list of resident non-citizens maintained by the Department of Homeland Security. The Obama administration had denied Florida's request for months, but relented after a judge ruled in the state's favor in a related voter-purge matter.

imagine that, NBC posts a truth?

Guess that will cost Obama the state of Florida! No wonder he refused to release the list!

HEY BARRACK HUSSEIN!!!! WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Now, before any of you Liberal/Progressive miscreants start blathering about the alleged 4.4 million jobs "created or saved" don't embarrass yourselves. First of all if you want to brag about them realize each one of these wondeful jobs cost us about $200,000 each to create.

We all know these are low end retail, temp, "health care and social assistance" and "leisure and hospitality" sector jobs.

Wage growth is always pathetically low in these sectors and these aren't disappointing. Average hourly earnings growth in these sectors has been 1.95% while CPI grows at 2.9% year-over-year. For those of you Liberals who are harping all over these threads about how wonderful Barrack Hussein is doing, this means inflation is eating up any wage growth they may be having.

More people are dropping out of the workforce than are jobs being created. A statistic not reported unless you look deep into the numbers. High-wage industries like technology, engineering, and others aren't hiring because they can't find enough skilled people to hire. Of course we haven't heard a peep out of Barrack about education other than pouring more money into college loans. This is the most ridiculous effort by this administration.

You can pour hundreds of billions of dollars into loans and grants for college but they mean absolutely nothing if we're not creating graduates for the technology sectors that create long term jobs that pay well. How can we do this if our pathetic K-12 public education system is graduating illiterates? Most Americans, and most of our high school graduates, read at an 8th grade level. Industries have to give applicants basic reading comprehension tests to determine if the person can understand simple instructions and warning labels in their work areas.

Our high school graduates rank in the bottom 1/3 of all OECD countries in math, reading and science. Read a high school seniors paper, most of them don't know how to use--there, their or they're--correctly in a sentence. Ask a high school student to calculate 30% of 420 without a calculator and their eyes start spinning. Even America’s top math students only rank 25th out of 30 countries when compared with top students elsewhere in the world.

But not to worry, our students know more about the new religion, GOVERNMENT, taking over our nation as it preaches all about “Adam and Steve” and their "special" family. Our kids can put a condom on a cucumber better than anyone in the world! As political correctness and its irrational ideology consumes our nation everything is either a social or economic justice issue or the favorite nowadays, a racial issue. We dissect this dysfunctional Liberal "equality" system until we even label a man as a "White Hispanic", obviously for political discourse reasons.

For 3 1/2 years this president has done nothing to improve our education system. The 30% of dropouts from the class of 2011 will cost our nation more than $300 billion in lost wages, lost taxes and lost productivity. You can logically add this to the hundreds of billions of dollars we lose to waste fraud and abuse every year as a result of our bloated and criminal government bureaucracy. Of course despite this massive loss of productive capital Barrack Hussein wants to raise taxes on the evil, mean, nasty, rich bogeymen. Yeah that $85 BILLION a year will really save our economy. Our government spends $10 BILLION every single day so we have cut a whopping 8 ½ days off of our Debt. Now what? Now who do we tax next to pay for the other 356 1/2 days? As Andrew Mellon explained in the past, taxation should NEVER be a system of rewards and punishments. Its purpose should be to simply fund the needs of our government as mandated by the Constitution. Government has never, and will never, control its own size.

Jobs need to be created in the private sector BY the private sector. Barracks useless “Jobs Bill” is just another embarrassment disguising Stimulus II. The job creation, once again, is driven by the public sector which never creates wealth, it just redistributes it around. More baseless tax cuts and credits that aren’t creating any long term productive jobs so industries can feel confident will last. Where are the trade agreement reforms we keep hearing about? When will we create trade agreements that are FAIR, not free? There’s nothing free about our exports being exploited with tariffs, taxes and duties and our imports aren’t. We’re approaching another $800 BILLION in trade deficits and we’re happy with 4.4 million jobs “created or saved” at Starbucks, reception desks and Best Western.

Where is the tax reform we keep being promised? Our criminal progressive tax system is an abysmal failure yet the Liberals don’t want to “Change” anything other than a few “loopholes” and upper tax brackets. This isn’t tax reform, it’s bleeding heart feel-good posturing. Our tax system has encompassed every tax bracket from 1% on low wage earners to 94% on upper income earners and we historically continue to collect total tax receipts of 18% as a percentage of GDP! Income tax revenues have been a near constant 8% as a percentage of GDP! This is the stupidity of the believers. Let’s keep a massive 70,000 page tax code that only those who can afford the army of accountants, lawyers and consultants can abuse it. The more important question is why we have a tax system based on production when our economy is 80% consumption. Wouldn’t it be more reasonable to tax consumption if we insist on it being the driving force of our economy? I also imagine not collecting revenue on the estimated $1 trillion to $2 trillion of black market money makes sense to the progressive tax worshippers.

Where is the regulation reform that costs our economy over $1.75 trillion a year? I guess it will get better now that Barrack and his cabal are adding more regulations in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. Why do we need 144,000 pages of mostly redundant regulations? Now, before any of you “scorched earthers” get your panties all twisted up in a knot about me wanting dirty air, dirty water and nuclear waste in your bathroom, grow up. No one wants that. You all know regulations are out of control, just as the tax code is. Obamacare is unleashing 12,000 new pages of regulations and they’re only half way through the the Bill. By the way, the newest CBO analysis shows Obamacare will now cost over $2.6 TRILLION dollars more in the real 10 year period 2014-2023. Nice job democrats!

In the meantime as our economy continues to collapse, the European Union teeters on total collapse and china is slowing down the Liberals are worried about Romney’s taxes and whether he was working 15 years ago. This is desperation at its most extreme. Instead of asking where are the jobs, we’re worried about one man who may have had two jobs at the same time. Of course the Liberals will defend their nonsense as a matter of legality. In the meantime they could care less about a Border Patrol agents investigation being criminally stopped by an executive order. They’ll whine and stomp their little feet about Romney “not recalling” something that happened back then but they didn’t say a word when Barrack Husseins cronies from Solyndra stood in front of Congress and hid their crimes behind the 5^th amendment to protect this incompetent administration.

The deflections continue as our incompetent president wastes more and more time on his class warfare and envy platform the real Americans and the world realize what a horrible mistake 2008 really was.

Obama gave a speech about how Romney is so wrong for the country but cant explain why he isnt? doesn't make sense does it? nope true liberal B.S

Njofaustintx

I could agree with increasing taxes for big corporations that make millions and billions because they can handle it.

As much as I agree with the rest of your post, this type of mentality can never be allowed our government. As my post above states, taxation should NEVER be a system of punishments and rewards. It's only purpose should be to simply generate the revenue needed to run our government from every legal American who benefits from living here. No more, no less. We need to get away from this ridiculous ideology that taxes will make society more fair. Only in the convoluted mind of Liberals can this make sense.

wtfjes66,

I could help but jump in on this one. You said. here's a fact for you - 50% of the people in this country are below average, count yourself in that category along with those that voted for obama last time.

50% are below the median. Not the average! More than 50% could be above and below the average depending upon the skew. You wanted to be factual.....

Njofaustintx

obama is just doing what his has been doing since he got in office, pointing fingers at others for his lack of presidential ability. He has hit on a minor issue with Romney and Bain - that most knowledgeable experts have come out and said is not true - but again he has refocused and avoided the real issues, which will show him as the one without a clue or a plan.

Regarding obamas tax the rich skeam - along with the negatives you have mentioned there is also the glaring point that any tax levied on the rich will be passed on to the consumer as a product price increase - and I believe he knows that. However, taxing the rich hits at the heart of certain voting groups and sounds very good to them - in terms of "finally, we have a president who is willing to do this for us". I have a hard time understanding why people can't see through this guys bs.

ROMNEY 2012

You gotta feel sorry for the guy.

It just wasn't HIS fault.

First they killed or ignored most regulations aimed to slow down corporate raiders, was THAT Romney's fault? Of course not... he's the victim here.

Then they took interest rates to all time lows at precisely the income levels he was at! How could you NOT sell-off and otherwise take every penny out of a business you could get your hands on? Low interest rates at the top end ENCOURAGE raiders and CEO to take big paydays and take money out of the business (and economy) while the taking's good. Now THAT wasn't Romney's fault either, was it?

Then, as if he wasn't sooo screwed already, he was almost legally FORCED to push all those hundreds of millions to off-shore accounts to avoid those damn taxes... again, wasn't HIS fault!

Yep. You gotta feel for him. A victim at every turn. And now he finds out that his own company screwed him by lying about his involvement on SEC filings for two years... while he got a pittance $100,000 each year for the misrepresentation. Horrible. Poor Romney.

You can't blame a guy for screwing us, our economy, and our country if it was legal, can you?

I can.

The fastest way to create more jobs in the private sector is to privatize our government. If we just say that the government is now a corporation, we will effectively create millions of jobs in the private sector and reduce the size of government in one fell swoop.

It is a mistake to think that there is no plan, instead of realizing that we just can't know about the plan yet.

wtfjes66

Regarding obamas tax the rich skeam - along with the negatives you have mentioned there is also the glaring point that any tax levied on the rich will be passed on to the consumer as a product price increase - and I believe he knows that.

Pure fantasy. You don't have a clue what's going on here. Why have some of our best economic years been during times of higher taxes? Why do you think we've been seeing these unbelievably repulsive paydays for corporate executives? Why is it more lucrative for the Romney "types" (greedy f#$%king money mongers) to sell-off a company rather than rebuild them? Why do you think we've seen the top end of our economy grow in income by double digits while the net worth of the middle calss has dropped by 40%?

Taxes that are too low at the top end encourages all of the above.

Why reinvest in your own company when you can take your one-time massive pay-day and pay little to no taxes? Take your payday today!

Why go through all the trouble to rebuild a company after buying it cheap when you can sell it off, lay them off, have the government take their pensions, and walk away paying just 15% tax on it all? Answer: you don't... you sell it off.

As a CEO, you have the ability to come in and make VERY short term decisions that f@#$k the employees but cause very large short term gains and THEN... you pay yourself the mega-bucks and walk while the walking's good... and only pay 15% on your fortune.

Had the top rates been at some reasonable number like 40%, do you think we'd be where we are today?

No.

Is it wise to lower the top tax rates again or even more?

Hell no.

Will raising taxes on the rich cause high product prices and kill jobs?

No... in fact, just the opposite. It will discourage profit taking and encourage reinvestment into business and the economy.

We've been swallowing the GOP BS for so long we think it tastes good now.

It doesn't.

kimH-1330542

wtfjes66 - Perhaps you could say Holly Crap again. It must really suck not to have someone in this race for President that you can feel passionate or excited about.

Oh, I do have that passion - TO SEE obama DEFEATED IN NOVEMBER!

The difference in my passion is that I am not as fanatically as the left who use violence to intimidate - I've read many deadly comments - from the left - towards ANYONE who opposes their opinions! And there has been more violence and mob mentality from the left - open your eyes and see past the veils of lies obama and his associates have placed out there. Any type of fanaticism is extremely dangerous.

I want America to live on as our originators envisioned - obama is not the man that will do that, he will sell us and our National Heritage and Traditions down the drain!

ROMNEY 2012

LMarcT

I'm afraid you're the one without a clue, I have been in the major business world for many years and all your supposed facts and text book characterizations mean nothing in the real world - costs to business and other companies have always been passed on to the consumer - why would any company absorb them? The fallacy here is that it's always some ones elses fault or problem - the real problem is the tax code.....time for a re-evaluation of the code! We all talk about how the rich get away with how they use the tax code - we are lead to believe that it's wrong or even criminal. They have not broken any laws doing what they do. You can place the direct blame on our government, they are the ones that developed the code, they control it but will never admit to us that they are the problem.

tomilvento

wtfjes66,

I could help but jump in on this one. You said. here's a fact for you - 50% of the people in this country are below average, count yourself in that category along with those that voted for obama last time.

50% are below the median. Not the average! More than 50% could be above and below the average depending upon the skew. You wanted to be factual....

Glad to have been able to help you feel better about your own quasi-intellectual level!

wtfjes66

Been there, done that. The reality is that we're both right. There isn't one thing I said that doesn't happen in the "real world". I've been faced with the same decisions in my career and believe me, the cards were stacked in my direction almost without fail... it's just that some of us have a conscience... or are what Republicans call fools... just because it's legal or barely legal doesn't mean you do it.

Yes, when taxes are raised across the board, they will ultimately find their way back into our prices. But that's where the structure comes in. Personally I like the cutoff being at $1 Million instead of $250,000 since $250,000 would not likely characterize someone taking extreme paydays out of a company.

And taxes on paydays in excess of $1 Million are far less likely to find their way back into pricing of products. Instead, they would discourage taking that much out of the business and encourage putting more back in the business to support efficiencies or expansions or jobs or research or whatever the business needs.

I am an EXTREME capitalist in that I've been in and support small and large business across the board. But I want the government run correctly... taxes are necessary and should be sufficient but not excessive. I HATE "starve the beast" mentalities... they are destructive and I've never seen a company recover from such antics.

LMarcT

When I was in college one required business class (and with other curriculum's also) was Ethics - this study has either been absorbed into the related areas or discontinued all together. The point is as younger people came on-board it became clear to me that ethics were a less than desirable trait, with those types moving quicker up the ladder. It was a mindset that the ends justified the means - and it is far more prevalent today than ever before as long as the law is met (or can be justifiably argued). So, with taxes, all individuals of means in business and on either side of the political isle take advantage of the loop-holes (if you will excuse the term) - but hypocrisy reigns and is used to denigrate opponents. Until the tax code is changed (I'm very dubious of that ever happening though) we will be struck with this situation. We need to end the class warfare that exists today pitting the have-nots against the haves. Restructuring the tax laws is the only way to make them fair for all - encourage business to invest, create jobs and not penalize them unfairly to create a political tool. I'm with you on the starting line as far as the at what income level do we begin.

I'm as much a capitalist as any other who wishes to earn and control and maximize their profits and use all tax quirks to the best of my ability and advantage. To hold someone else in contempt for doing the same thing is the height of hypocrisy.

wtfjes - Violence to intimidate. What are you talking about? If you get upset because someone disagrees with you or calls you a name then you haven't been reading the posts on the right. Violence in when you punch someone in the nose or shoot them or invade a country. Pull up your big girl panties. Oh, and by the way, this country was founded in revolution. I don't remember our founding fathers saying nice things about the king. Holy crap!

wtfjes66

So there!

LOL

Have a great day.

kimH-1330542

Violence as in when the leftist union thugs threw people off a freeway bridge in Wisconsin over the recall issue with the republican gov. Violence as in the Chicago DNC riots.....I can't recall any such happenings as a result of republican activities.....you need to get out more!

Duh,......yeah man,.........ugh..........Bain,.........like.............wow , .......uhh.......man , Republicans are like so totally stupid man.....because........like..........not like us cool dudes,...........like so totally,............you know,...........like smart........yuk, yuk, yuk,.....Yeah, Yeah..........like .........uhhhh,.......In the mean time,............ While our Communist-in-Chief, continues to whip up his oh so intelligent and well informed base,directing them as to what to regurgitate through his lapdog propagandist in the Main Stream Media, even if they don't have a clue about what any of the nothing story means,nor do they really care. The idea is to continue to deflect from the real issues, such as his total failure as a leader,(unless of course his plan was to destroy the U.S. economy by amassing as much or more debt than all previous Presidents combined, putting millions more people out of work, creating a welfare nanny state,grinding Our military down by starting more wars and bringing the Muslim Brotherhood to power while destroying former allies , endangering Israel, sucking up to radical/socialist regimes around the world, shipping thousands of jobs and billions of dollars of aid to socialist and communist nations, and supporting the reemergence of communisn in Russia,while Our people suffer, if that was the plan ,He has certainly succeeded, but let's just move on and not mention any of that),O.K. Boys and Girls! BAIN!.........Yeah man!,..........like.........Bain............ugh,..........bad........ ugh,.............yeah.............wow......

wtfjes - Ok girlfriend. I'm pretty much over your whining.

sanity, why are the polls showing them at a virtual tie? Keep ranting..next

Watt- take a look at the electoral college map standings. It's not a virtual tie- obama leads by 40 votes and has the edge in 11 of 13 swing states. Romney has a lot of work to do and it looks like it's going the wrong way for him right now.

realclearpolitics.com

Go big O!

I agree, SeekingSanity...If the stakes weren't so incredibly high, it would really be funny that the 'pugs are running a candidate that pretty much their whole party despises and then they all try to put on a happy face and act like he's their guy. I'm quite sure that they'd support Vladimir Putin if he survived their absurd process. Equally amusing is how Romney ran a scorched earth campaign in the primaries and said anything possible, no matter how false or specious, to smear the other candidates and their mothers, and surely everyone who watched this worm work knows he will do and is doing the same to President Obama, and yet he has the temerity to say that Obama's team is "over the line". What an laughable assertion considering what a devious, deceptive piece of trash he is.

"What lies have been proven?"

Let's take a quick tour of Willard's lies, shall we?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/28/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-obamacare-adds-trillions-deficit/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/22/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-ending-medicare-we-k/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-iran-released-hostages-1981-becau/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/21/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-said-he-actually-cut-spending-massachu/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/17/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-once-distanced-himself-ronald-reagan-n/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/15/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-evolved-significantly-his-position-abo/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/03/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-dow-chemical-chose-saudi-arabia-o/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/03/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-dow-chemical-chose-saudi-arabia-o/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/10/robert-gibbs/democrats-say-mitt-romney-failed-disclose-offshore/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/09/mitt-romney/health-law-puts-government-between-patients-and-do/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/05/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-president-ignored-debt-problems-s/

Mitt's lies are going to chase him all the way to a humiliating loss in November.

Neither Governor Romney nor anyone at Bain (current or former employee) will say why the SEC shows that Romney was running Bain from 1999 to 2002. Or why in 6 different fillings Mitt Romney was the signature. So if Mitt Romney wasn’t running Bain, as he maintains, then who was? Why isn’t Romney saying who was? Why isn’t anyone stepping up saying “I was in charge?”

Sfcret:

Of course it is perfectly legal for Romney to screw over his fellow Americans in his quest for wealth. That doesn't make it good or right or noble. If you want to find people doing scummy things legally, they are pretty easy to find in the financial sector.

Look at it this way; if democrats ran an abortion doctor for president, think that would be an issue for republicans? Think it would be relevant to the election, to have somebody whom half the populace considers a scum, even a murderer, even though what he did was perfectly legal?

Dennis

His tax returns were so toxic that McCain picked …

More likely McCain had no idea whether Romney had done anything wrong or not. Trust Tax returns are not easily understood by the average person.

BTW: the runner-ups often vetted by the winner and seldom chosen. The last runner-up to be chose as the VP candidate was Al Gore in 1992 and in 1980 Reagan selected Bush 41.

Dennis - this was and is a private company and they don't owe anyone an explanation.

A private company owned by whom? He was the sole share holder- did Romney sell it?

Romney singing "America the Beautiful" is a negative ad in itself. But seriously, the corporate raiding is bad enough, add the the outsourcing which is even worse, and add to that doing all this crap with taxpayer money, which is un-American -- But the bottom line is the LYING.

At the most basic level, signing documents for the SEC--for almost three years IS having having something to do with Bain. And Romney can't take credit for jobs supposedly created at Bain (especially after 1999), and not take responsibility for all the crap that went on as well.

I was just talking with a friend who is a Ron Paul supporter. We both agree on Anybody But Romney (ABR) -- We can't let this guy get into the White House. She said she will either stay home or write-in Ron Paul. I'm voting for President Obama. ABR!

MisterWonderful -- Please tell us all about Global-Tech.

Who off-shores defense spending, perhaps the Pentagon? How about Olympic uniforms, perhaps the Olympic committee? Does anyone really think the President or even anyone in the executive branch makes these decisions? Really?

There will be more and more incriminating information released between now and the GOP/TP convention, and after that if Teapublicans don't get a different candidate, facts about Romney's background including Bain will continue to be exposed. This will come from news investigations, not from the Obama campaign.

Regardless, as posted above, it is all about character, trustworthiness, and Romney's flip-flops that are often blatant lies--beyond flip-flops. The American people have zero tolerance for the LYING!

watt75 -- You're so full of sh!t. President Obama is fully vetted, not just because he is already the president and has been for almost four years, but because he has been open about his background including two books about his life. The Birther, or Transcripter conspiracy theories--are these the things you're counting on? Seriously?

Romney's got a lot of explaining to do. Even if there was not scandal about his LYING, which is all the more questionable due to his refusal to release tax returns per standard operating procedure, he has been an Epic Fail at providing voters with a compelling reason why they should vote for him. That's because if he actually has any ideas, plans, or solutions, it is just the same old GOP/Bush-era policies on steroids.

We won't go back to failed Teapublican policies, and we won't elect a pathological liar as president, Commander in Chief, and leader of the free world. Romney doesn't cut the mustard. Romney -- He's not in it for you. ABR!

Democrats are the best at playing the "blame game"....Democrats have had 2/3rds of the power in Washington since 2006.....100% of the power from 2008-2010......yet everything is always somebody or something else's fault. It's never their fault or their failed policies....it's always the Republicans fault or the blame is laid on some uncontrollable circumstance. Will Democrats ever step up and accept responsibility for anything.....other than the good they can spin out of the bad?

Seriously, are Democrats so weak and pathetic that they can't accomplish what they want with 2/3rds or 100% control of the government? If so....perhaps 2012 is the year to make the donkey obsolete!!

As usual Patri-neurotic has absolutely no clue about the gibberish that he's spewing. Dept of justice is too busy covering up the murder of an American that they caused to give a rip about chasing down a lie fabricated by leftist imbiciles.

Hey speaking of which, why don't you explain just how his alleged actions by you and all of your liberal rocket scientists is a felony? No never mind, please don't...I know your answer would dumb me down to much. You're a funny guy/girl/whatever. "this is a felony" Oh man you libs are so gullible. Hey libs, did you know there's a river in the grand canyon that runs pure melted chocolate? Oh yeah good stuff, and it only rains once a year there but when it does....yep, skittles. Put that little ditty up on your shelf next to your belief in barack.

For months now, Obama has taken all kinds of mis-represented - and lying - garbage from the Romney Campaign.

Now, Obama goes on the offensive with facts not innuendo, reality not supposition. Immediately the Romney Camp put on their broken Halo and cry foul roflmao. They are sweaking like a bunch of cornerd pigs, wallowing in a mess of their own making. Even their new Communications Team is still getting the messaging wrong - looks like its time for a third Communications Team Romney ...... they got their work cut out issuing "Clarifications" ROFL.

With the number of times Romney has opened his mouth and lied - abortion, contraception, Bain, Universal HealthCare, The Mandate, Jobs and Outsourcing..... the list goes on, and on, and on ....... they will will be wallowing in it until November.

Romney's Day is done - again.

Rightwingwac -- Lolz, go fap on Fox Nation or The Blaze. Hurry, because your Reichwing Party is sinking fast!

Zydor -- Exactly. Filing SEC documents for almost three years IS in itself having something to do with Bain. The bigger issue is Romney's lies about residency to be eligible to run for governor, but at the same time claiming he was in Salt Lake City "full-time." And this isn't even taking into account what he is hiding in his tax returns and a lot more cans of worms.

a

I want the discussion to focus on the USA economy, trade, agriculture, national parks system, foreign policy, education, military and our vets, the national debt, income tax reform, and a few other national items.

Dennis,

but,

Palin is even more toxic.

------------------------------------------------She is .... Palin in the arse

Dennis wrote -

--------------Mitt Romney

--------------… provided John McCain 23 years of his tax returns when being vetted as VP in 2008.

--------------His tax returns were so toxic that McCain picked …

--------------Sarah Palin

Harley Chic and Rightwingwac are Cheney's daughters.

So, the unemployment rate is misrepresented? It's actually lower?

GDP is misrepresented? It's actually higher?

All those companies funded by Obama's Department of Energy that just-so-happened to be owned by, or had a large vested interest in, Obama donors, did not, actually, go bankrupt?

Please.

Facts are facts- and, unfortunately for the Obama cult members, sometimes his lies are too big to ignore. Kind of like this one.

I'm sure Obama would have been much happier if Romney had an ex-wife in his past- but he doesn't, so there are no sealed divorce records to get at and use against him. That means Obama needs to manufacture slander out of whole cloth.

Not to worry- he has it in him. This, after all, is a man so despicable he lied about his own dying mother for political convenience. When you'll stoop to that, you'll stoop to anything.

So did Obama, and he tried to for months - but oh noooo - Romney Campaign Team flings the mud for months led by blatent lies. Well, it just got thrown back in their faces, and they cant take it.

Bring on the National Issue Debates, the Romney Team have no viable Policies for those anyway - its why they flung the mud for months trying to distract from their idiocy.

Bring on the Live TV Debates - I am soooo looking forward to Romney meeting his intellectual and Political nemisis live coast to coast ..... it will be slaughter, Romney will not cope - its not his BoardRoom where no one opposes him in his One Man BoardRoom. He actually has to make sense this time - a new concept for Romney, with his stream of lies and double standards.

Romney is Toast, he just doesnt know it yet he's that dumb.

no joe, no bo, nj

The left is busy with Romney's lies and you know he is by the way he walks. Kinda effeminate don't you think? He certainly appears to have a big lie stuck up his ass. Hell, if he came out of the closet maybe Dems would think twice.

Rightwingwac -- Lolz, go fap on Fox Nation or The Blaze. Hurry, because your Reichwing Party is sinking fast!

Just like the Costa Concordia.............leaning hard to the right and taking on water

We not only need to re-elect Obama, but we need to get rid of all the Republican & Teaparty up for election in November!

Once again the Republicans did another filibuster, this time Obama proposed to give tax breaks for small business that make $500,000 or less, what the hell do they want, oh that's right, they want Obama out and Romney in(God help us). They just proved to the American people what their priority is, and its not the American people or this country!!

Get out and vote and help those who have to register and or provide a voter ID!!!

Obama's team will do *anything they can* to obfuscate and distract from his failed economic record.

While I understand this is all politics, Obama is doing to Romney (relentless attack about outsourcing, and offshoring) what Bush 43rd did to John Kerry (Swift Boat) and Bush 41st did to Michael Dukakis (Willie Horton).

Even though some of my liberal friends and Independents would think that this might be over board, there is no other way to win this fight except to define Romney as out-of-touch with common man. If Obama doesn't take the offense, Romney's campaign would stick it him. I am glad Obama is coming out swinging on this with 118 days to go before the election. But he needs to watch out, because public / independents might think Obama is going negative without putting in the table what he would do to better the unemployment, economy, deficit, etc.

And the Liberal drum beat continues.

Yep, here is a clip of Mr. Obama's SEVEN TRUTHs/commitments he made during the 2008 campaign saying what he would do when he becomes President:

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0

Can't campaign on HIS ....repeat HIS..... record since he has been in office so continue with this rhetoric. The more he and his DNP continues these type attacks, the more they think it is the truth. Just digging the hole deeper. LOL.

Enough with the lame GOPee Wee Herman "I know you are, but what am I?" BS and false equivalencies. It only makes all you rightwingers look like the bloviating ignoramuses that you are.

Tea Sucks -- Agreed. Except the Swift-boating that was done to John Kerry was a pack of despicable lies. There is more than a grain of truth about Romney's many flaws. And most of it is coming from the news media per investigative reporting, not the president's campaign.

Perhaps he could have run on his record if the GOP hadn't decided that it was worth destroying (further) the US economy if that's what it took to beat President Obama . And even so, his list of accomplishments is long even if his shortcomings are quite noticeable.

1-ACA

2-Dodd-Frank

3-Where is OBL? (Want a clue?)

4-Credit card regulations

5-Lowered taxes

6- Prevented a depression from the GOP mismanagement of 2001-2008

7- Lowered student loan rates

The list goes on. What has Romney done besides passing a health care bill that he now disowns and getting richer by raping his fellow Americans?

Wow, can't you just smell the desperation coming from the Obama camp? When you have nothing to run on and you've broken every promise you ever made and just stuck the middle class with the largest tax increase in history through the Obamacare turned Obamatax, I guess all that is left is to rip on your opponent with lies, fables, BS and the good old Socialist line that success and having money is a bad thing and sitting on your butt depending on the government is a good thing. Remember in November ABO! For those of you who can't figure that one out let me elaborate so you don't make something up: ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!

Thomas Blue

You are kidding right? Dodd-Frank, the biggest culprits in ruining our economy with the "everyone must have a house", vote getting scheme. Lower taxes? How hard did the Republicans have to fight to keep Obama from doing away with the BUSH tax cuts? Prevented a depression? Really? Don't you mean did his best to turn a recession into a depression? Took over studen loans and all of a sudden that is in crisis too! Give it up he has no record because he is incompetent and a total failure at everything except implementing the beginnings of Socialism.

The more these Obama supporters spin the more I laugh.

Once again, Barry gives a speech and is shown to be all wet. How many Obama worshippers stood in the rain with their heads tilted back, mouths open in awe drowning. Call the paramedics the turkeys need mouth to mouth from standing in the rain dumbstruck with their mouths open.

These Narwhal room workers are seeing unemployment for them coming down the road and getting wild with false accusations. Everyone knows that all the BS Obama spread about Bain Capitol proved to be false statements. Obama has only failure in his almost 4 years to run on so now we really hear the lies and bull flying. Remember in November ABO! Holder et al in Obama's crew demand I.D. for people attending thier meetings and events but sue a state trying to demand I.D. to vote. Can you say Hypocrits to the max. Suddenly after being found in contempt of Congress Obama attack dog issues an indictment for the people who shot our border agent. So, you tell us how he knew who to get warrants for if he didn't have information on them from his gun running operation called fast and furious. Get a life and give it up, Obama is a one term disaster. Jan. 20,2013 will be the END of an ERROR.

Laura-3089574

If you want to live in a country where there is no opposition to the Socialist take over, you have to move to Venezuala. You can also invite Obama to go along.

Did you hear the one about 24 years of Romney tax returns? Wow when they get desperate they really tell some whoppers. This guy has been all wet since puberty. This day was just God showing him that his BS is about to be washed away!

Shaking my head-2479300 -- No bobble-head, what you are seeing is sheer glee. Romney is now the Manchurian Candidate, in that no matter how bad the unemployment rate is by November, the voters will reject someone who is a fraud.

The more you post the more desperation you show.

MTpolitico -- Did you just climb out from under a rock today? Try to keep up.

And, AND, AND!!! MittTaxPittance Rommel, YOU LIE!!!! You WERE RIGHT THERE WITH BAIN HACKING OFF JOBS AND SELLING THEM OVERSEAS!!!! Liar!!! Pants on Fire!!!! Now try this on for size: Right On Schedule: The republicanCrimeCartel Created this disaster back in Reagan's time and Perfected it with the Bushies, especially With KingGeorge the VaccumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001 - 2008. THEY ARE Causing this Depression we are back into to get people mad at Prez O and vote for Rommel and Whomever his love mate is. YOU KNOW what Rommel's got in mind For US???: A HUGE American military, OTHER PEOPLE's Sons fighting Newly thought up And VERY PROFITABLE WARS for 1-5%ers Riches and Corporate Wealth, And NO American Universal National healthCare System. Even Prez O was "forced" to cut a deal with the powerful health insurance industry. Does ANYONE KNOW what the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats: $128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and DIED. The FACT that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like THE OTHER COUNTRIES, WHO TAKE CARE OF
THEIR CITIZENS who need medical attention and help instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for Unending Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE. FACE IT Sister and Bother American, Rommel IS ON THE SIDE OF THE FAT INSURANCE COMPANIES And WILL MAKE SURE We Americans Are Denied A Wonderful HealthCare System like in Germany or Israel, WHICH WE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS PAY FOR TOTALLY FREE FOR ISRAELIS. YEAH, A LOT of US are mad at Prez O; The Man Has ROYALLY SCREWED UP LATELY: He let the $4.00+Gas and oil go by without a protest OR Complaint to the Justice Dept Going after the oil companies for Price Fixing And PRICE GOUGING. AND that shaking hands with karzai of afghan
after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONEtheless HAS ANYBODY got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US and ANY economic progress made?? He WILL GUT US LIKE A FLOPPIN' FISH ON THE DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 40% and NO Social Security..Gotta Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE At All; republicanCromeCartelPanacea: Sick??, No "health care insurance policy"? awww.. Sick?..Well, DIE QUICK!!!!!
AS "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. And Rommel and his LoveMate Rubio, Like Rommel and Goebbels, are gonna' give you the republicanCrimeCartelPropaganda Lies; You Love Your Family? Don't Go for it. You Don't care?? Go Ahead, vote for these two Politaphiles and see what happens.........................

Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar Fortune.
Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy, ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including Many Many Suicides While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of service to his country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by helping me get elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse car elevator for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up People...This guy IS Count Dracula In carnate. A vote for ANY Republican politico is a vote against Yours and YOUR FAMILY'S Well Being. You can take that to the bank.

The evidence on Romney is out in the open where every honest person can see. His company listed him as the CEO of the company he was the only shareholder of. He signed the SEC papers himself. Can somebody on his side tell me exactly how President Obama is misrepresenting the facts? As for the Democrats not being able to accomplish the Presidents agenda, the Republicans held enough seats in the Senate to filibuster anything that they didn't like, and repeatedly used that as a means to stop anything they didn't like. The Republicans in the House, and the Senate have brought block-voting to new heights. They repeatedly brought up things that they knew wouldn't be passed by the Senate, or the President just to stir up the mud. What was it, thirty-something times voting to repeal the "the Presidents healthcare law, which was based largely on Mitt Romney's healthcare law he got passed as Governor? He's attacking himself, and thinks Americans are too stupid to realise what he's doing. It's downright amusing watching him try to pull the wool over our eyes, when, as I said, the evidence is out in plain sight. It's like a thug telling the police he didn't stab somebody, while he's trying to pull the knife free from the bone his knife was stuck in. If you wanted some real fun, you could have recorded a lot of Republicans I know talking about Mormonism being a cult, and Mitt Romney being untrustworthy. Now they are behind him all the way. Some of them even called him a liberal for getting Romney Care passed into law. Their motto is ABO. If you don't know what that stands for you'r not smart enough to vote. Some of the same people used to go with ABR. LOL.

The teapublicans are in serious trouble. We will be voting every GOP incumbent out of office this November because your #1 priority is not for the majority. The GOP party of "NO" has delayed this Great Depression's recovery by 3.5 years. Lie to the masses all you want with your Fox news, but we see through your falsehoods.

Obama/Biden 2012 - Clinton/Clinton 2016

True

I can't wait to rub this Shi$ in your faces after November.

Here's a question for all of you rocket scientist liberals (who I am now referring to as "tyranals"). If Romney is such a joke and has no chance of winning the election, and Fox just brainwashes it's audience, but the rest of the media is in the corner with the jack-ass party, why then is barack barely splitting the race right now with Romney?

You guys are scared little sheep and it will be fun to watch the regime be taken down hard come election time.

to be the best is all about you been consistent and never allow bad fellow spoil your market value. you can get that through http:www.unn.edu.ng or unec

Never, please stop with the spam style posting. Thank you.

Willard would've been afraid to get his hair wet.

If you call Mr. Romney "Willard" why don't you call President Obama "Hussein"? Just askin'.

You obviously didn't make this comment as an honest question but Willard is Romeny's given name. Barak is Obama's given name. I'm sure even the densest toll should ba able to work it out.

redphish,

Note to self...when calling someone dense in the future use spellcheck.

I am not spamming.

The Koch-paid, Reichwing bots collapse posts that don't violate the COH.

Therefore, invoking the Bush Doctrine, I post multiple times in order for my ideas not to be censored by the Party of No.

How ironic, I use the Bush Doctrine to further Enlightenment...he used it to further the profits of Halliburton et. al.

LOL.

Willard wouldn't think of getting his Guccis' wet.

watt75 - do you just feel stupid since densest is absolutely correct? Just saying - maybe you want to try actually learning to spell? Or was it the troll word you had a problem with? Still - you are the densest troll around!

Redphish: You are correct about it being his given first name, but as you use it pejoratively is it not equally fair in that context to call the President Hussein?

Sanity,

' I'm sure even the densest toll should ba able to work it out'

If you can't see what is wrong with this sentence I can't help you dude.

norm903 If you call MR Rmoney "Willard"...................

"willard" is Mr Rmoney first name. He's your candidate and you didn't know that. Nuff said!

watt - can you not read? I said you could be talking about he word troll - clearly your stupidity is increasing as you type! Oh it was the typo ba for be. Whoa! You'll need to go back and re-read all the far righters posts as there are typos all over the place!

savant99 - you're not "savant" of any kind. The birth certificate nonsense again? Please - even Donald Trump knows that is totally stupid. And, the school transcripts - get over it. He headed Harvard Law Review - can you even understand that implication or is that beyond your educational capacity?

Obama/Biden 2012

upset ...

Obama is the man. Bring on the debates.

Cannot WAIT!!!! The debates are going to be amazing! I wonder if Romney will take his "cues" from Sarah and pivot on every single question. If so, it's going to be very obvious to the American public that the guy doesn't have a clue! I so hope Gwen Ifill is going to be the moderator! LOVE her!

Matthew, did I call it or did I call it?

My post was collapsed, for no reason, despite being within the COH.

I will post 1000 times, if I have to, in order to further Truth.

"Romney is like fools gold"

We want to see the tax returns AND his full and original birth certificate.

OBXRon, I second that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are talking about Mitt Romney !!!!!!!!!!!!

Romney - RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS - YOU BIG WEENY!

The long form tax returns,,,,and how about his birth certificate

norm903

If you call Mr. Romney "Willard" why don't you call President Obama "Hussein"? Just askin'.

Oh for Pete's sake, this is your concern, really? Aside from the obvious that Willard is a first name, and Hussein is a middle name, thanks for reminding us that Romney can't even be honest about his damn name.

TruePatriot-445959:

Oh for Pete's sake, this is your concern, really? Aside from the obvious that Willard is a first name, and Hussein is a middle name, thanks for reminding us that Romney can't even be honest about his damn name

Mitt is his nickname, as in Bob is for Robert, or Ed for Theodore. I believe the name Mitt is a relative's (uncle ?) name that played baseball. Is TruePatroit your "real" name? Homer Adams is NOT mine, it is a username. Was Jimmy Carter lying about his real name since he did not go by his given name of James?

If you call Mr. Romney "Willard" why don't you call President Obama "Hussein"? Just askin'.

Willard is Romney's first name as Barack is Obama's first name. Nothing wrong in calling Mr. Romney Willard. If some call him Mitt that's fine because, in some families they use one's middle name as a nickname. In Obama's family they use Barack rather than his middle name of Hussein. Also, like millions of other men, their name is followed by JR. meaning junior or same as papa's name. Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is the current President of the United States of America and Willard Mitt Romney will never hold that office. Plain and simple. I hope you can understand that. It is like with George W. Bush being called Dubya, it's what his family called him but so many righties got their nickers in a twist whenever we called him Dubya. Anything, anything at all to show false rage over and the righties jump on it.

His name is Williard because he is a Rat :)

john you are doing a fine job of trashing the President. Answer this Is it ok for only the right to trash people? You are losing the point your trying to make. Go back to a right wing blog and do your trashing there around your own kind.

Thanks for the kind words. Commenting on Obama's record may be "trashing the president" to you and stating the facts to many, many others.

ok, the dow went from 7k to 12k, GM still employs a million people, ford is doing well, so is Chrysler. one war is ended, the other coming to an end, Libya is free, Syria is almost free, ben ladden is dead, no attacks on America in three years. well none that succeeded anyway. So tell me more about this failure you speak of. lol You mad bro? cause Obama saved the economy? I got three words for Romney and you "waa waaa waaaa " Here, have a tissue lol

Yes your right that’s why he's our president! By the way vote
against him if you CAN! Remember who brought our heroes back.

george pauljohn
ok, the dow went from 7k to 12k, GM still employs a million people, ford is doing well, so is Chrysler. one war is ended, the other coming to an end, Libya is free, Syria is almost free, ben ladden is dead, no attacks on America in three years. well none that succeeded anyway. So tell me more about this failure you speak of. lol You mad bro? cause Obama saved the economy? I got three words for Romney and you "waa waaa waaaa " Here, have a tissue

Beatles......Maybe you forgot the first ever credit downgrade? $5 trillion in new long term debt ring a bell? Dozens of broken promises? Ford took no Obama money and didn't need to. Libya is free no thanks to Obama. Obama has not saved the economy. The economic recovery is the absolute worst on record. Obama has stunted the economy with class warfare, his Obamacare tax hikes and push for even more tax hikes. "Ben Ladden" is dead because Obama made a no-brainer call. Big friggin deal. My mother cudda made that call and she's been dread 12 years.

John. Credit downgrade was due to the bull@!$%# the house and senate were doing during that time. Broken promises... really you simpleton child? He's a politician you utopian nutbag... not one person can ever deliver on promises if they are in the racket of being a politician. How do you feel when bush stop caring where bin laden was and going after him? Coward ass hypocrite. The economic record based on what... were you around during something this economically disastrous to our country?? If not STFU because you have no baseline to go off of. When there is a factual line showing that a transfer of wealth is occurring yet you dismiss it as class warfare... you need to eat the barrel of a pistol. You only get taxed on the ACA if you don't have health but can afford it... @!$%# man read!!!! Your mother couldn't make @!$%#... didn't know she was dreading for so long, dreading for your sorry excuse ridden ass... Oh you mean dead... good riddance.

I'm with you John. We need to get this liberal blow hard. If he is such a great president why isn't he in the white house doing his job and let his so called great record do the talking? Because his record sucks and its easier to blame someone else for the problems. Face the facts liberalism doesn't work. Look at any country in the world embracing liberalism they are going down the tubes. It rewards the lazy.

King 77.... There are 28 new taxes in the ACA, not just the one mandate. The total bill will be $2.6 trillion over 10 years, per the CBO, the largest tax increase in US history. Why don't you spend some time researching and less time name calling. You give liberal unicorn chasers a bad name......"eat the barrel of a pistol"? Really? What are you, 15?

watt75

OMG...your test of a true leader is him giving a speech in the rain?

Your statement proves how little you understand leadership. I'd bet your people, Romney, Boehner, Cantor, Bush, etc., would cancel before they do that. As a Retired Military man myself, yes, a TRUE leader will endure the same elements as his soldiers.

justin.case

that is too funny mooshupork geez...Holder is a disgrace to America but not to his black panthers.

And you are a disgrace to your white people. How's that?

#5

Do you feel better now, Justin? Anything else about the darkies you want to get off of your chest?

Thomas Blue - Justin doesn't realize the last "group" of black panthers consisted of 5 people. However the white supremists number in the thousands - scary isn't it??? And, I'm white!

Obama/Biden 2012

Amen moshuluu ...

As a Retired Military man myself, yes, a TRUE leader will endure the same elements as his soldiers.

And thank you for your service!

Romney will be crushed by the Obama train, this will be a huge Victory for America !!!!!!!!!!!!

You think record numbers getting food stamps and government assistance is a victory? You must love the fact that Obama has now set it up to where welfare recipients don't even have to pretend to look for work in order to get government welfare. Guess you think that generational welfare is something to aspire to? Dear God. Let us not be a nation that works and strives and looks to better itself, nope, let us aspire to...nothing but free hand-outs?

You do realise president Obama hasn't changed any eligibility requirements to make government assistance or food stamps any easier to get. When you have a president, (Bush) who lost 700,000 a month a month his last half year you end up with more people getting benefits. See how that works?

mygirl,

We might want to look for a candidate that doesn't outsource jobs thereby causing some of those "record numbers" of Americans receiving food stamps. I don't think anyone aspires to be on welfare when they are growing up and I think that to say all Americans that are presently disadvantaged are all lazy.......those are pretty big brush strokes when including everyone when making political comments. I think a real victory would be to get both parties to work together even if this requires compromise......you don't always get what you want there has to be balance in everything.

Yes, a true leader needs to be in the same element as the rest of his troop.

You know those nobles in the past? They would tell people to do everything while they stay safe in their stronghold, drink the finest wine, eat the finest food and tell people they need to get off their "lazy ass".

Well, lets see here, Clinton signed the welfare reforms into law in 1996. That was a BIPARTISAN effort to create a welfare system that helped people while they were looking to improve themselves and find work. Specifically written into the law was the language that no waivers were to be granted to TANF statutes. Congress specifically prohibited waivers to insure that the recipients would indeed look to help themselves and their families improve their lot and not rely on government assistance for the rest of their lives.

Obama's new directives signal an end to the 1996 reforms signed by Clinton, and by his actions, welfare recipients no longer need to look for work as a condition of getting assistance. Now, in socialist Sweden, government benefits are tied to work, the Swedes insist that you be working or looking to be employed to get the bennies. Obama's administration also ran ads on spanish station soap operas, ad that told people to get their friends and themselves on food stamps. In one ad, a woman tells her friend that she doesn't need food stamps, and the 'friend' tells her she should get them anyways.

So, guess Obama should also be getting food stamps to be amongst his 'troops?' Please, this is not how a leader governs. The objective is to get people off of, not on (in record numbers, BTW) government assistance. The goal should be self-sufficiency, not government and big Nanny reliance.

Hey Obama....How about talking about your record, huh? How about you talk about F & F? How about your talk about the jobs you outsourced to Finland, Denmark, China, Mexico and Dominican Republic. Sent them BILLIONS of OUR taxpayer dollars so they could make cars and green products. How about you talk about how your outsourced OUR WHOLE SPACE PROGRAM to the Russians and Muslims????? How about you talk about your membership in a socialist/marxist organization? How about you talk about your thug mentors, Ayers, Reszko, Blaggo? HOW ABOUT YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS, HUH? YOU of ALL PEOPLE should be talking about and accusing ANYONE about hiding something, something as immaterial as the day, time, that Romney cleaned out his desk at Bain. If Romney was hiding anything, why was it so easy for your army to find? What about all YOUR documents, records, hidden, guarded, protected. What's in THOSE documents?

I'm here to tell you,MyGirl, you're dead wrong. As someone who was forced to find new ways to make a living thanks to bushanomics, I was on unemployment briefly- for the first time in my life- and I was required to submit proof of my efforts to find work.

Um, lets see here. You were required to provide proof of your efforts to find work? Golly. Now, go pay attention to Obama's new waivers, they do away with the need to provide proof of seeking work. Now, how, please am I wrong? You just provided proof that I am correct. Tsk.

So all I have to do is stand in the rain and I'm qualified to be president. The liberals have an odd way of picking who they vote for.

"Mr. Romney's got a different idea. He invested in companies that have been called pioneers in outsourcing. I don't want a pioneer in outsourcing. I want some insourcing," the president said to cheers.

This phony is such a liar. He LOVES the unions and talks about Romney's outsourcing, when unions are involved nothing can be made inexpensively which is why all the manufacturing jobs have gone overseas.

I got a new bumper sticker for you liberals who can't analyze facts but run on emotion and name calling.

Comrade Obama/Where did I leave my brain Biden 2012

Make sure you see the documentary 2016 it will hopefully convince you lib's that this phony could care less about you or any American.

Against,

Why do you hate Unions so much? If it wasn't for Unions you'd working in a coal mine compound, 7 days a week, buying at the company store, no over-time, no benefits, no vacations, company supplied shelter. And if you didn't like the conditions the Pinkertons would make sure you were Happy happy happy. Get off your arrogant high horse and your dream of America free of unions is coming closer to true--just think the Bosses can fire your ass anytime they want, reduce your pay, no benefits and they'll tell you if you don't like to bad there nine deep out there to take your job so suck it up looser.

Obama 2012

I don't give a sh*t if he walks through fire, he is getting voted out come Nov.

Romney 2012

Gee z, what are all you black haters (I mean all of you) going to do after the re-election. You really ought take a look at where the other fingers are pointing, right back at you. As long as your members have sworn oaths to some idiot not their constituency you have a major problem with real Americans. We elect people to represent us, the majority and they need to do that not some stupid talking point. Your guy Rommey has a real problem with this Bain thing, like it or not, Sec forms, news paper articles and you can't deny both sides of a coin, just admit it and hope he survives. Then drop your hate for blacks and join in to rebuild our country, if you want to leave it up to us then we will do it and you will whine all the way. You need to move..... to the center. I loved the deer in the headlights look at the NAACP meeting, that stupid grin gave it all away. He didn't bring enough people.

You KNOW Prez O is the LESSSER Of the two evils, And there are those of you who are Convinced and/or obsessed Rommel is the right man for the Oval office creating 50,000 IMMEDIATE JOBS/Careers on Jan15, 2013.. Maybe, Just Maybe you voters have been hoodwinked into voting for Rommel and against yours and your famil'e well being by theese MASTER SpinMakers: Try this one on for size: Right On Schedule: The republicanCrimeCartel Created this disaster back in Reagan's time and Perfected it with the Bushies, especially With KingGeorge the VaccumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001 - 2008. THEY ARE Causing this Depression we are back into to get people mad at Prez O and vote for Rommel and Whomever his love mate is. YOU KNOW what Rommel's got in mind For US???: A HUGE American military, OTHER PEOPLE's Sons fighting Newly thought up And VERY PROFITABLE WARS for 1-5%ers Riches and Corporate Wealth, And NO American Universal National healthCare System. Even Prez O was "forced" to cut a deal with the powerful health insurance industry. Does ANYONE KNOW what the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats: $128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and DIED. The FACT that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like THE OTHER COUNTRIES, WHO TAKE CARE OF
THEIR CITIZENS who need medical attention and help instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for Unending Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE. FACE IT Sister and Bother American, Rommel IS ON THE SIDE OF THE FAT INSURANCE COMPANIES And WILL MAKE SURE We Americans Are Denied A Wonderful HealthCare System like in Germany or Israel, WHICH WE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS PAY FOR TOTALLY FREE FOR ISRAELIS. YEAH, A LOT of US are mad at Prez O; The Man Has ROYALLY SCREWED UP LATELY: He let the $4.00+Gas and oil go by without a protest OR Complaint to the Justice Dept Going after the oil companies for Price Fixing And PRICE GOUGING. AND that shaking hands with karzai of afghan
after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONEtheless HAS ANYBODY got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US and ANY economic progress made?? He WILL GUT US LIKE A FLOPPIN' FISH ON THE DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 40% and NO Social Security..Gotta Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE At All; republicanCromeCartelPanacea: Sick??, No "health care insurance policy"? awww.. Sick?..Well, DIE QUICK!!!!!
AS "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. And Rommel and his LoveMate Rubio, Like Rommel and Goebbels, are gonna' give you the republicanCrimeCartelPropaganda Lies; You Love Your Family? Don't Go for it. You Don't care?? Go Ahead, vote for these two Politaphiles and see what happens.........................

Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar Fortune.
Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy, ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including Many Many Suicides While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of service to his country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by helping me get elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse car elevator for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up People...This guy IS Count Dracula In carnate. A vote for ANY Republican politico is a vote against Yours and YOUR FAMILY'S Well Being. You can take that to the bank.

Swallow-2813582

Gee z, what are all you black haters (I mean all of you) going to do after the re-election. You really ought take a look at where the other fingers are pointing, right back at you.

Dear Swallow-It is Not About Color, at No Point in This Blog has it Mentioned Race Until You Just Did. It is Not About Color, It Is About Capability. A Community Organizer Does Not a President Make, Wasn't Presidential Material, Isn't Presidential Material and Shows No Sign of Developing the Qualities of Leadership Required of a President. To Whom Ever it Was that stated "Old Teabaggers are a Thing of the Past", beware, we are awake and the Majority of Us have a Case of the A$$ with the Current Administration. We Will Vote. ABBO-Anyone But Barak OBama-Remember in November

Wow! The President is doing some negative campaigning. Shame on him. That's something the good and righteous Republicans have never done.

Blah, blah - regarding negative ads, your comment doesn't hold financial or factual water.

Check out the negative ad money spent so far and see who is spending it. You'll see that conservative PACs and Gov. Romney have FAR outspent President Obama and liberal PACs. And gee . . . American Crossroads/Crossroads GPS ranks #1 in negative ad spending. Who'd a thunk that?

(source: washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/track-presidential-campaign-ads-2012/ )

I applaud the president. I think that he done a very good job despite the barrage of republican obstruction on every front. Willard has issues with the truth that are awfully apparent! Who is that guy? It's anybody's guess. I am sorry for you that you have allowed your biases to cloud your view. I hope that you you find it in your heart to "Change".

Good laws Never!!!! Get a new thought and a new post! The spamming thing is overwhelming stupid!

Romney has no "Plan" how to fix this "W" fueled depression !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ moshulu:....you do the ship "Moshulu" and ALL VETERANS a huge disservice by portraying yourself as having a honorable aura....

YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE TO Philadelphia (HOME OF THE MOSHULU) AND ALL VETERANS NATIONWIDE....

SIR YOU ARE TRULY SHAMEFUL.....from a Vietnam Veteran

Matthew

Romney is spending less than Obama even though he is taking in 20% more. Obama is spending more that he is taking in. The strategy is win public opinion by painting a evil picture of Romney now and hope to hold on in November. Being most voters don't make up their minds or even get involved until the last month, an October surprise is usually a better strategy. Obama's problem is that the demonizing isn't getting the footing he wants because Romney isn't viewed as evil, just detached.

It is the conservative packs that are spending so much.

Never stop asking questions.

Mitt Robber Baron Romney is either a liar, a felon, or both.

Maybe posting things that aren't totally baseless like this would help?

No, I don't mark posts I disagree with.

The Author's on this article's OPINIONS were shown to be baseless by ABC & the Washington post.

Romney resigned as a manager in 1999 to rescue a the bankrupt Olympics in Salt Lake City. He DID NOT sell his stock. If he had enough stock, he may have been entitled to sit on board meetings, and give an opinion, but he still is not running the company. Bain, which is more democrats than republicans unanimously agree that he had no managerial roll after 1999.

Typically in this type of a business, when an executive resigns, he is offered a contract that may pay him an a nominal salary or more likely a rate for consulting on Projects. Consulting is not managing, but giving advise, and as a consultant would not be still a CEO. Again, Bain Capital says he did nothing.

About the 6 or 7 applications to the SEC. These were submitted by the individual companies, not Bain, not Romney. Neither Bain or Romney signed them or participated in applying to the SEC. Unless Bain owns 50+% of a company it is still run by an independent management team. Having applied showing Bain as one of the owners (probably required) but listing Romney as CEO says more about why the company applying needed Bains investment than it does about Bain or Romney.

Note: It's one thing to believe something, and another thing to believe something to the point you are being led into the world of make believe. Politicians love that when it is in their favour.

Obama's overall rank by a respected independent panel is 15th while G.W. Bush ranks 39th out of 43. Carter ranks 32nd. This is based on twenty key factors used to judge everything from personality to the ability to avoid crucial mistakes.

So when someone rants about Obama being the worst, it's clearly disingenuous or skewed personal bias. The vitriol directed toward this President says a lot more about the character of those who hate him than it does about the way the President has met the challenges of the Executive Office.

Fighting fire with fire is what Barry has to do. We all know how nasty and full of lies his opponents have proven to be. Sadly he has to resort to negativity but in politics we need to realize that one must fight fire with fire. In their primaries the Republicans have proven just how nasty they can be. Obama's campaign wasn't sitting on the sidelines and just watching, they were taking notes. Too bad for the Repbulicans that they can't find a good candidate this time around.

A victory for Obama in November is the end of our nation, at least any american who loves freedom, and believes in a capitalist economy. Obama's only goal is to destroy the most successful government system ever devised and implemented. If anyone has any doubts about Obama's intentions, just read his books. He was an admitted communist in college, and he continued to this day, keeping company with unabashed communist leaning individuals. He was never a lawyer, he had no provable academic success, by his own words, first affirmative action president. He has lied about his past, and shows no inclination to tell the truth. This nation is toast if this farce is allowed to continue his continuing effort to destroy the free enterprise of this nation.

To the rightwing Collapse Gestapo -- Go rape your own in the Fox Nation Big House.

Wilfred of Ivanhoe -- Yes, but there is a big difference between criticizing the opponent factually, which is what the Obama campaign has been doing, versus lies like Karl Rove's GPS Crossroads SuperPAC has been doing. Ads about Romney are negative but true.

Dasvet -- Perhaps you should head to your bunker now.

"If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." - Harry Truman

Willard Romney stole the retirement funds of countless workers and shut down businesses that America vitally needs to compete in the world marketplace to fatten his bank accounts in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland. That's a fact that nobody can deny. If Romney doesn't want to hear that, then he should give back the money he stole with interest. But that won't make up for the lost income suffered by those workers and the destroyed lives among their children who did not have the financial support of their parents for their education and other needs.

Dasvet -- Holy cow, you're ALREADY in your bunker, down there with the Enquirer and Glenn Beck's book and AM radio so you can tune into Rush Limbaugh. Hahahaha, Alinsky, communists, hahaha!

I will always be thankful to the President for ordering the ending of the life of Osama Bin Laden and seeing the mission through to the end when those around him, including Defense Secretary Gates, doubted and had "cold feet". This was something that Bush had EIGHT YEARS to do and couldn't get it done.

I am concerned that Willard Romney will sell off the assets of the US government, including defense technology, to our enemies for profits that he can use to further fatten his bank accounts in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland. Thats all he knows how to do and he won't be able to resist the temptation for a quick financial killing.

@ Joe M.-294004

Actually my favorite Truman quote of the moment is "the buck stops here" by Obama but he is not talking about himself (heaven forbid - everything for him is somebody else's fault), he was trying to fork over blame on Romney for the later Bain years when even the Dems and members of his own staff say it is BS.

I guess if you can't talk about your record you have to do something so that is what Obama is doing pointing his finger everywhere but at himself and yelling "look there!".

Summerlight, Willard Romney keeps trying to pass the buck for what he did at Bain Capital to his partners who aren't running for President. He is a two-faced liar and a looter. Do you have bank accounts in the Caymen Islands and Switerland too? Do you have an interest in Bain Capital?

"Virginia -- with its 13 electoral votes -- is so important for Obama: A win there, plus in Colorado, enables him to surpass 270 electoral votes without winning Florida, Iowa, Ohio, and Nevada. But a loss there forces the president to MUST win either: 1) Florida; 2) Ohio; or 3) both of Iowa and Nevada to get to 270. And that’s assuming, of course, that Obama holds on to all the states John Kerry won in ’04."

Somebody at msnbc needs to check their math. My chart says that getting the States that Kerry won in 2004 plus Virginia and Colorado adds up to 268 Electoral votes - 2 shy of the magic 270. Perhaps they are using the 2004 electoral map, but it changed with the new census, giving 'Red' States 6 more Electoral Votes.

Can someone verify for me to make sure my math is correct. Here are the States that Kerry won in 2004; WA, OR, CA, IL, NI, NY, MAINE, VT, MA, RI, CT, NJ, DE, MD, HI, DC, MN, WI, NH, PA for a total of 252 Electoral Votes, but in 2012 those States only have 246 Electoral Votes. Adding VA (13) and CO (9) only gives Obama 268 Electoral Votes - 2 shy of victory.

lol joe M, so romney is still the CEO of bain. Your time machine must be stuck in 1999.

BTW - many who have 401k, 501k, IRA's and managed pensions have oversea investments. It's called diversification. Looks like you think big government will always give you the lifestyle you want.

The only reason Obama winning public opinion is most of the public is too stupid to know when he is lying just like 2008

I agree 100% with you general statement, But we need to remember that Obama is only 6% Black, 44% Arabic and 50% white. Why do people continue to refer to him as the black president, Shouldn't that be the First Arab-American President?

Oh you're back with your ignorant blathering Marla.

Too bad you have no understanding about anything outside your bubble of stupidity. But, that's all Republicans understand - stupidity and hate - as you've shown in your post. As usual, you and people like you prove there is not a shred of sanity in the GOP - or class.

Obama/Biden 2012

I never heard he was Arabic. Where did you get that information?

marla,

Context, always context. It's called "grassroots campaigning". Word of mouth advertising using groups with common characteristics. You need to look beyond just what some idiot partisan sent you on FB. If you did, you would know there are also: Jewish-Americans for Obama; Latinos for Obama, Veterans for Obama, Women for Obama.

Common practice not only in political campaigns but also advertising campaigns.

Only the partisan ideologues could find something sinister in such a common practice.

BTW, wanna go on Romney's site and see all the special interest groups he is utilizing? Latinos, Catholics, etc.

Make yourself knowledgeable about the facts before you go shooting from the hip!!!

Marla - He's half white. I hope you're not teaching that beautiful child to be a bigot.

Special - Arabic - What? His father was a Muslim which is not the same thing as an Arabic.

kim-- I don't see his color... I voted for Alan Keyes in my primary years ago. I try to vote for character, assuming there is ever any in the race. Apparently, however, HE sees his color and is asking people of like color to support him because of their shared color. How is that okay with anyone?

Should I ask blondes to like my post because I'm blonde? Conservatives because I'm conservative? Whites because I'm white? Moms because I'm a mom? It's outrageous. Pandering to any group by any politician pisses me off-- Romney's no better. I can't stand any of 'em. I'll hold my nose and vote to try and get Obama out of office, but it's definitely not because of skin color. It's because I'm hoping anybody will do a better job.

Marla - for someone who doesn't see his color, you sure said "black" a whole bunch. Alan Keyes - really? Is that your idea of being a character driven voter?

I said black because he said it, Kim. He's asking blacks to support him because he's black. I'll say it as long as he makes it an issue. Alan Keyes most closely mirrored my concerns when he ran in the presidential primary way back when. He's been out of this person's eye for quite some time, so I have no idea if he lives what he professed back in the day. But given a choice way back when of him or George W. Bush, to me it was a no-brainer.

Wait.. You think actually think Romney would be a better president?

Bo would be a better president.

Indeed, mygirl. LOL

If Obama does this I am sure the media will make sure they blab it. Would FOX be included in the definition of "liberal media" as they won't report all the GOPTP lies all the time 24/7 as if worshiping in the cathedral of the Fascist wannabe extremists on the right? Poor babies there are more people reporting the truth than the lowly one network serving as propaganda wing of the GOPTP.

It's either Romney or Obama. Take your pick. It's probably going to be Obama again. I mean come on Romney. You're supposed to get caught lying after you're elected

Marla;

Two questions;

1. Are there Americans of African heritage with "white skin"?

2. Does African Americans for Obama exclude anyone on the basis of race, color, or creed?

Clearly the answer to the former question is yes and to the latter question no. Therefore your implication of some type of bias on the part of the President is simply bs.

We are all some type of American, i.e. Irish-American, Jewish-American, Hispanic-American, etc., ect. There is nothing wrong with the President appealing to groups of Americans based on their common cultural heritage. There is however a problem when an appeal is made on the basis of race, it's called race baiting. Only poorly educated and classless individuals seem to fall for this type of contrived stimulus. The President has not done that.

@ Marla...seriously?!!! Is that all you got, who really cares if you voted for Alan Keyes...why would you even have to mention it? Because you want everyone to think (oh, see I voted for the black man) do it and not boast about it. Obviously you noticed his color since you had to mention it. Some people!! Always bringing up freaking color. As if we don't have a brain to think for ourselves, we vote for whomever we want to vote for regardless. Contrary to popular belief we are not all walking around dumba$$es.

Well, Silver-- check out his video, and then tell me if you don't think he's race baiting. He shows black marchers with Martin Luther King, Jr. posters, refers to slavery, talks about it all paving the way for "someone like him" to be president.... I don't think he's referring to the whites of Africa, my friend. I know it's all politics, and everybody plays to their audience. That's why I think they all stink.

Someone asked me earlier if I think Romney will be better. I already said "I hope." I have no idea if he'll be better. I can only hope if he gets elected, he will be.

well, then denise, with all due respect-- please read the thread again and don't act like a dumbass-- see again why I mentioned it-- because he mentioned it. I'm tired of the pandering. If his blackness isn't an issue, then why did he make it one by pandering to black voters?

Adler-- I don't get any of my news from Fox, so I couldn't tell you what they report. I don't listen to Rush, either-- who has time? I love the assumption that anyone who may disagree must be a "Faux news" listener. MSNBC must really find Fox threatening, because their TV shows and their website spends incredible effort trying to discredit them. If they're so bad, ignore 'em.

Marla anybody who runs for something plays to their audiences/strengths. It's almost a guaranteed vote. If you ever run for president I hope you take any advantage given to you.

mygirl,

I felt that Bonzo would have been better than Reagan when he was President...... so I guess we have found common ground

markle-- gotta love the common ground. Love your post.

Troy-- I'm already guaranteed the mouthy, homeschooling blonde vote....so why pander to it?

Marla, bless her little heart. So full of hate that she can't see the forest for the trees.

Would it be okay for a white candidate to launch a "Whites only" movement?

Clearly the antithesis of a 'whites only" movement would be a 'blacks only' movement. Any such exclusionary organization does not follow current American values and would be subject to legal remedies. African Americans for Obama does not fit that mold because of the operative word 'only'.

Try another line of attack honey (the man's beloved mother was 'white'), that one ain't holdin water.

Then again, I'll ask...why pander to the black vote then? His mother was white....so why does he pander to blacks?

And can it with the hate-- it's so ignorant it defies description. Is that all you liberals have? "You disagree with me, therefore you're hateful?" Grow up.

I see Molly "Marla" Mormon is in here sticking up for Mitt. Stay sweet Marla. Gawd.

Heartlight3 -- Remember that Teabagger lady who said the president was an Arab, and John McCain had to correct her--with obvious disgust? These rightwingers get their propaganda from Emails sent by some crazy uncle, or Drudge, or Hate Radio, or heck FAUX Noise.

Marla - Looks like you are having difficulty making your point. What was it again - you're not a bigot but make your decisions based on character? Don't you think every candidate for public office "panders" to their base? If you don't mind, I would like to offer my bottom line opinion on the mindless hatred I see directed towards Obama and it has everything to do with his "blackness". The thought that there is a black man in the White House just chafes the butts of those of you on the extreme right (is their a moderate right anymore?) and no amount of denial will change my opinion. Just look at the hateful viral e-mails floating around and the lunatic fringe web sites out there.

I see that a teabagger censor is on duty tonight at MSNBC. Is it untrue to call Willard Romney a liar when he cannot say the same thing two days in a row?

Obama's agenda has nothing to do with the black, white or hispanic community. His agenda is much more worldly and has to do with transforming America as he stated in his first presidential campaign. He just meant something much different than all of the short sighted, all about me, voters. Obama is super smart, motivated and will accomplish his goals if reelected. By the time people realize what was intended his second term will be over. He will get much more coverage in the history books than most presidents and it won't be because he is the first black president. Notice I didn't say African American. He's not. None of his descendants were African slaves in this country.

and everybody plays to their audience. That's why I think they all stink

Sure they do, why wouldn't they? After all if you are going to bother to run you should try to win. Consider that no matter what the polls say you can't count on a vote until the last ballort is counted in November. While its true that by and large blacks support Obama that only translates into votes if they go to the polls. The trick is getting your base engaged and excited and keep them that way through to November. Obama plays to his base because if he doesn't he won't win.

It like the pimp would say: Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Marla
“The Black Vote” , what is that supposed to mean. Are you saying that
African American have separate expectations from their elected
officials than European Americans? Are you saying that you don't feel
that People of Color, that make up 92% of the Worlds population, are
concerned with the same Justice and Equality owed to all American
citizens as are White People? Are you saying that European Americans
are the, “White Vote” and they all vote as a single minded block?

WOW, and a double wow! When Obama says he's with the people, he proves it. In a down pour, no umbrella,tarp or shelter,standing with the people ,getting soaking wet! No alibis or excuses; the people showed up,braved the storm and so did THIS President. WOW...

He talks the talk, and he walks the walk., how refreshing!

Thank you Mr President for leading by example, for not asking of the people, that which you wouldn't do...no wonder the GOP wants to get rid of this guy, he is soooo unlike them....he is for real!

Wow, I thought it was a liberal Romney hater censor because for the last week most anybody that disagrees with you liberals would get their comments collapsed. Marla has been the only one to not get chopped off for the most part. And how about calling your leader a liar as health care is now a tax and they denied that everytime it was brought up. Or the fact that same person takes lessons from one of his closest friend on how to bring his kids up muslim. And his friend is the vice-president of a certain muslim nation. And s.sanity you must really have a belly full of hate for everybody that disagrees with you as you preach nothing but vile comments trying to shout others down, A typical political play. You should really find some points to argue and stop the vile B.S. it would make you look a little smarter instead of so childish and pitiful. Are you one of those hate mongering plants?

************I AM VOTING CHRISTAIN ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*****************

Patriot-- I'm a Christian, not a Mormon. Nicebike-- I'm saying we're Americans. I happen to loathe Have a message as a candidate? Give it to all of us. And again-- I'm not the one pandering to blacks-- ask President Obama why he's pandering to black voters. Degeding-- I don't hate any playas-- ha. Game stinks.

For the record-- I'll have one of two choices come November-- stay home, or hold my nose and vote for Romney. Still not sure what choice I'll make. I can't stand the man. Agreed-- he's a liar. He was pro choice until he realized years ago he'd never get a Republican nomination-- so now he's pro life. Gee, Mitt-- kinda convenient. I, for one, am not fooled.

kim-- there is enough hate on both sides to go around. That much I hope we can agree on. Think what you want-- personally, I couldn't care less what color the man's skin is. I think he's bottom line a socialist, and I want him out of office. I didn't like Bush. I didn't like Clinton. I don't think any of them have character-- we choose the one we hope will be the least harmful to our country, and/or the one who says the most things we agree upon.

For every person you claim hates him because he is a black man in office, I'd bet ten bucks there is someone who voted him solely because he is a black man. Does that bother you as much? Probably not.

whoops-- what I meant to say above was "I happen to loathe the hyphenated American crap that our nation has become." We're Americans.

Marla...

I got your back even if you are a blond. Progressives, liberals and obama worshipers all have the same thing in common. Stupidity. I would have said ignorance but they keep on failing to use any type of learning or reasoning ability in reading or understanding others posts.

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Idj - Yeh, a summer rain is soooo discomforting, especially when one has been waiting for a long time to hear someone. Obama has nothing over the rains and mud of woodstock.

I suppose obama is real since he endorses the current attitudes of his supporters by passing blame off onto others. What an American unifyer. NOT!

one and done in 2012 - OMG.

American-- appreciate your support, even though I'm blonde-- ha.

I won't join you, though-- I don't think they're stupid. It isn't right for you to call them stupid, anymore than it is for them to call "us" the names they do. That's our problem in our "civil discourse..." No one is civil anymore.

I think they firmly believe what they believe. I find them comically hypocritical in that they are fond of pointing to "the right" as intolerant hatemongers, and then have the most hateful, intolerant posts. But there's hypocrisy on both sides.

My call will always be for personal responsibility and accountability in one's posts. I have to look myself in the mirror at the end of the day. And lemme tell you-- the older I get, it's hard enough as it is. I will not conduct myself on here any differently than I will with someone in person.

Enough pontificating-- sorry to ramble.

************I AM VOTING CHRISTAIN ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*****************

Not that there should be a religious test in a secular nation (unconstitutional), but the only Christian running for President of the United States this cycle is Barack Hussein Obama.

Point taken Marla, I usually preface the stupidity part with First read (FR) progressives, liberals and obama worshippers.

For me stupidity is forever (incapable of learning) and that ignorance can be cured (willing to see differences).

I would hardly call your threads rambling, have a good weekend and don't stop asking questions and listening to the answers. Pass that attitude onto the kids as well.

You gotta feel sorry for the guy.

It just wasn't HIS fault.

First they killed or ignored most regulations aimed to slow down corporate raiders, was THAT Romney's fault? Of course not... he's the victim here.

Then they took interest rates to all time lows at precisely the income levels he was at! How could you NOT sell-off and otherwise take every penny out of a business you could get your hands on? Low interest rates at the top end ENCOURAGE raiders and CEO to take big paydays and take money out of the business (and economy) while the taking's good. Now THAT wasn't Romney's fault either, was it?

Then, as if he wasn't sooo screwed already, he was almost legally FORCED to push all those hundreds of millions to off-shore accounts to avoid those damn taxes... again, wasn't HIS fault!

Yep. You gotta feel for him. A victim at every turn. And now he finds out that his own company screwed him by lying about his involvement on SEC filings for two years... while he got a pittance $100,000 each year for the misrepresentation. Horrible. Poor Romney.

You can't blame a guy for screwing us, our economy, and our country if it was legal, can you?

I can.

Well one thing that's glaringly apparent, rightwingers believe free speech only applies to them. Seriously, they are collapsing this entire article. Why don't you rightwingers go rape your own over at the FOX Nation Big House and leave the adults to talk?

If only we had a president that had a platform to run on instead of an opponent to run against! The man looks positively desparate in a large number of his photographs and video clips. He knows he can't run on his record because he has none!

I notice that since "Hope and Change" didn't work worth a darn, we now have "Betting on America." I wonder if that means he thinks we can gamble our way to prosperity.

Concerning an apology to Mr. Romney: he has apologized to everyone else in the world for just about everything he can think of. The only people he hasn't apologized to is Mr. Romney concerning Oblameo's general attack-mentality stupidity and the American people for screwing us over for 3&1/2 years. And I didn't even get a kiss before getting screwed.

truepatriot-- I'm totally confused. How does something get collapsed here? "comment collapsed by community--" what does that mean? How does that happen? I've seen it forever, and I have no idea how it happens.

A little help?

Thank you for your thoughtful and reference filled comment. Much appreciated! The Republicans are out to bamboozle the voters again. First we are told that corporations are people and money is speech! Now Mitt Romney asserts that though he is listed in SEC fillings for 1999, 2000, 20001, 20002 as the sole shareholder, CEO, and President of Bain Capital, and though his signature is on 5 new Bain acquisition fillings and his seat on their Boards of Directors, and his testimony under oath to the Massachusetts Election Commission that he was in fact actively involved in working and living in Massachusetts during 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2002 in order to confirm his residency requirements for running for governor of Massachusetts that he indeed left Bain in 1999 and thus bears no responsibility for the actions of Bain Capital during that time period. (This sentence by intent is a run on sentence since we are dealing with an uninterrupted stream of lies.) My question is: who does bear the responsibility for the activity of any corporation if not it's sole stockholder, CEO and President? Republican crazymaking - as all liars do.

Obama attacked Romney's attacks about him and the highlight of the story is that he got wet. Well, I'm not paying for the salon visits.

Since this is just a rightwing propaganda board at this point, I say go ahead and collapse it!

It's a weekend--that's when the trolling goes up and the moderators are gone--but just the title of this article american-2051576 -- give us an friggin' break with the BS. Not one of the rightwing posts contain any substance to make any case. And all the crap you rightwingers are having a b!tch session about was discussed in all the collapsed sections above.

You people are pitiful. Go poop in your own sandbox. Try The Blaze or something.

Rich, come on now, I heard him say "I like to fire people". I heard the tenor and tone in his voice, I saw the body language that accompanied the remark, I really think he enjoys it. Just like his bloviated idol, the Donald. You can weasel all you want about the "context", but what I saw and heard goes beyond the context. I just don't trust this beady eyed jackal.

And yes the Grand Obstructionist Poopies do have that 59 point thing. I am neither the first nor last progressive to admit its existence, but always feel a twinge on excessive generosity when I call it a "plan" in the spirit of civility.

Further, I would not admit to any "lie" about Mitt with regard to Bain, I have my opinions about what he did, why he did what he did, and how he covered himself in a "plausible deniability" about what he did. You have yours. There is room for a generous or odious interpretation of the facts in the case, which probably does not constitute felonious behavior, but merely an example of how dismally out of touch the man's core values are with the American middle class experience and the needs of most of the citizens of this nation.

Now as to sincerity, sir, and you can take this to the bank—it is my firm and wholly serious opinion that the stated policies and the implied or expressed agenda of the GOP in this campaign are a cunning, cynical, and wholly intellectually dishonest attempt to gain power at any cost to the nation. I note whimsically that you follow the standard tack and imagine to attack me where you GOP are weak.

Finally, I would like nothing better than to see these blogs awash in serious careful discourse about the issues of this campaign. Yet in every case where we progressives argue the facts and the policy the GOP/Teatards counter with the most ridiculous lies and cowpies of distortion. By and large you people are completely unwilling (perhaps even structurally unable) to proceed with rational analysis and even handed discourse.

Yeah, I could be more generous to Mitt. Show me some reciprocal fairness and generosity toward Mr Obama, and then maybe you'll see more of the politics of reason we all deserve!

In reference to your comment regarding transparency; BHO promised it during his campaign in 2008 and we know nothing about his academic career other than the FACT that he has legal fees of $1.7 Million to seal the paperwork from public disclosure.

We know Romney's history but not that of the president...WHY NOT???

Marla, since True Patriot is such an "adult" and refuses to help you out on collapsed posts, I will answer your question.

In the lower right corner of every post their is an arrow pointing up for agreeing and an exclamation point next to it. Clicking on the exclamation mark allow you to vote on whether you think the post has no value, is inflammatory or is advertising. Newsvine determines the number of votes to have the post collapsed automatically. Advertising posts probably take the fewest and are generall marked deleted, the rest are just collapsed. just click on the collapsed comment to read it.

reterry - "I like to fire people". LOL, does that mean that those who can't handle the job requirements or proven to be incompetent just remain hired? If so, quite a few bankers shouldn't have been fired or asked to leave recently.

I would rather support someone who is not afraid to get rid of the dead wood than someone who is afraid to. That is not to say that that would be the only qualifier.

Speaking about body language, better start watching obama more closely. His body langauge is quite telling during many of his speeches. Talk about being saying two different things at the same time.

Hi reterry,

I want to remain focused on your false claim about Mr. Romney saying he liked to fire people. You did not hear him say those words alone. Not unless, as I speculated and by your answer think I am right, you are simply repeating an Obama campaign talking point. Had you watched Mr. Romney when he spoke those words you would have seen him immediately talk about being able to fire those who provide services and in relation to not being able to fire whoever DC, for instance, might pick to determine if you get a health care treatment.

What Mr. Romney was getting at is what I speculate as well that you agree with him, and disagree with Mr. Obama, about. To wit, you are better at making choices for yourself than the government. So, I want to be very clear...you did not hear Mr. Romney say he liked to fire people, and you certainly did not read his demeanor to imply he meant he likes to fire employees. You are, unfortunately, lying about what he did say, or you have been beguiled by Mr. Obama's lies and have accepted them as true. Either way, you are wrong. Either way, you do nothing to advance what should be the purpose of our politics (which isn't to get along, or even like one another, but is to get policies enacted) since your only goal, it appears, is to see Mr. Obama win regardless of what he supports.

We can't truly know your motivations. The best we can do is to make a fair guess at them by your actions. I suggest you go back and watch what Mr. Romney actually said and not what Mr. Obama has told you he said. If you still come out of that believing he was talking about employees as opposed to those businesses he deals with, then so be it. We are further from one another then even I thought if that is the case.

Sounds like Obama and his minions are getting a little desperate and worried. They should be!

Oh horsehocky Rich! I watched the original clip. The lead remark is surely followed by a statement about businesses and good service and all that BS. In my opinion the subtext, tone, and body language all bespeak a much broader meaning easily extending to people and their jobs. A core value underpinning the draconian policies seen at Bain Capital.

Similar impressions arise when viewing his statement "I don't worry about the poor". Yes we got some immediate backtracking and BS about the safety net, but I really don't think this man cares about the poor beyond how his actions or inactions might make him look to voters.

I actually used to have a moderately OK view of Mitt, but no longer.

So let me get this straight, Romney and his superpacs can go calling the president a failure and other names, spreading mis-information and employing scare tactics about his policies that have helped millions of people not only find jobs but keep their houses and for the first time afford or purchase health care BUT let the president question where Romney keeps his money and the possibility of lying about HIS record and it's a problem? Isn't Romney running for the President of the United States??? Doesn't his "proclaimed" job creation and business record that he has been touting since the beginning relevent? How about where he invest his money. I have no problem with being a billionaire but I do have a problem with him WANTING to be the president of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA but not INVESTING his OWN money in the same country he wants to run.......

Reterry,

I must say that you are wrong. Best wishes

Bain capital is not even a drop in the bucket to what Obama sent overseas with his failed stimulus. Billions of dollars sent overseas.

http://www.obamanomicsoutsourced.com/

Romney is so very funny........Romney gets caught lying about the lies he lied about, saying the lies he lied about are not lies, then says the lies he said he didn't lie about are true, but those really are lies because documents Romney signed showed that his lies were really lies , that he said once more are not lies.

Repubs at Bain and wherever say, whatever Romney lied about aren't lies, and whatever lies he did lie about, they will lie and say those lies are not lies. All they need to know are which lies Romney wants to lie about saying they are not lies, so....they can say the lies he says are not lies, are not lies too!

Hi reterry,

I'm sorry to be stubborn about this, but you are not telling the truth. It wasn't as if minutes, or hours, or days later that Mr. Romney clarified his comments. It was part of the same speech told at the same time in front of the same people all about the same subject. He specifically was talking about your ability to hire and fire whatever health professionals you use for the care you need, or the insurance to pay for it. If you want to pretend that he meant he liked firing Bain's employees, or liked firing the employees of firms Bain took possession of, then there is nothing to say but you are lying.

Not that it matters, but I would prefer to have a president who is NOT afraid to fire people who need to be fired, and who likes that ability. Mr. Obama claims this ability, does he not? What president wouldn't? So the "offense" that leftists like you feel is phoney at best, since even you do the same. Bad service at the restaraunt, and do you want to be FORCED to eat there again? Of course not. Your car mechanic charges too much and doesn't fix the problem, and do you want to be forced to have only him fix your car? Of course not. Your doctor, despite your complaints, fails to deal with them, and do you want to be compelled to see that doctor and only that doctor? Of course not.

So, the question then isn't whether or not you or Mr. Obama agrees with Mr. Romney--you obviously do (what free person wouldn't?)--but why you would argue against Mr. Romney on this point? Either you prefer to support people who are disingenuous (Mr. Obama supporting the concept of firing people who do a poor job but then bashing that very concept when a republican opponent mentions it), or you in fact want to be less free, and want your government to control more of your life. Either way it's pathetic and I want nothing of it.

Since this outsourcing complaint is in our face again...outsourcing is a healthy way for an economy to function. If a product or service becomes too expensive (for whatever reason...taxes, regulations, wage and benefits, et al) to be produced domestically, but there is a domestic market for the product or service, then the production of it will occur off-shore. Outsourcing began centuries ago, it is nothing new. To the extent that any firm Bain invested in moved production overseas in oreder to save the firm from going out of business, then Bain did the right thing.

If you dislike outsourcing you should deal with the market fundamentals which cause it to occur, and you should not get upset at firms who do it. In this latest stink maybe Ralph Lauren should've had the uniforms made in the USA with USA-made fabrics, but this just isn't easily done anymore. The textile industry in the USA has been almost completely wiped out, and what is left is wildly more expensive than what you can get in Nicaragua, or Thailand, or China. So why should Ralph Lauren lose money in order to appease our nationalistic desires?

How about, instead of attacking Bain or Lauren or GE, or any other firm making wise business choices, we look at regulatory costs, legal system costs, wage and benefit costs, and so on, and how we can make those lower so that more firms can produce more items we want right here in the USA? Just a thought, one which I fear has sailed over the head of every liberal who might read it.

Romney...Blunder in chief Organizes a group of thugs and attacks a student in school, and Romney cuts the kids hair all off while friends hold the kid down.

Romney dresses up as cop and pulls people over pretending to be cop.

Romney the draft dodger takes off to France and takes multiple deferments to stay out of draft. Talking to vets recently Romney said he wishes he could have been a part of it(Viet Nam war) All he had to do was enlist!!!

Transfers money account into wifes name day before deadline when becoming Gov. for Mass. Thus avoiding showing his money account he was hiding from public.

Lies about being at Bain, lies about not being at Bain, lies about not outsourcing jobs, then lies about being at Bain saying he created jobs when he actually outsourced job overseas.

Romney loses to Palin who with McCain loses to President Obama.

Romney was losing to all republican Nominees until they all destructed leaving Romney the last ...the pitiful last all rebubs did not want.

Romney hides all his offshore accounts avoiding paying taxes to America. Then wants to be president while betting against the American dollar because he does not believe in America.

Romney caught hiring illegal aliens for years and when caught again the last time, never turned them over to Ice. Just turned them loose.

Repubs say everyone should like Romney because he has been on both side of the issues at one time or another.

Romney says he likes to fire people...!

Wayyy too many flip flops to mention.......Romney for a worse tomorrow today,

Vote President Obama/Biden 2012

The president has also been using this series of campaign speeches to highlight the need to extend the Bush-era tax cuts that are supposed to sunset at the end of the year for those who make $250,000 or less as well as call for an end to that tax cut for those who make over that amount of money.

I find it very amusing that the Obama Administration wants to extend the ‘Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001’ (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and ‘Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003’ (JGTRRA), except for the those earning over $250,000.00 per year. The Democrats have been crying for years that was a main cause for the recession of Y2009 and the growth in the USA’s national debt.

Everything is G W Bush’s fault, but in the end the Obama Administration wants to keep all things Bush.

starsailing:

We get that you seem to dislike all people that have earned a high net worth in their lifetime. Are you jealous, envious, resentful, or just plains spiteful? Perhaps it is that you have very little ability? You make many posts and most are always putting something down.

Homer Adams -- The president's proposal to extend the Bush tax cuts for the 98% also INCLUDES breaks for the richest 2%, because couples earning $250.000 or more only have to pay a higher tax rate on income above and beyond the first $250,000 earned.

And the argument that this is too much to ask, because couples earning $250,000 are "scrapping by" in places like New York City is a crock of crap -- We need to base federal policy on the entire nation. More importantly, if rightwingers are sincere about reducing deficits, we can't keep extending tax cuts especially to the richest 2%.

The Teapublican blackmail and holding the middle class hostage is why the Obama Administration and Dems have had to "keep all things Bush." Heck, the GOP/TP have been trying to block regulations on speculators that cause higher gas prices for consumers and businesses. Along with Teapublicans just filibustering a bill to reduce taxes for small businesses, it's a wonder the economy has improved at all.

Right now we need to over-correct to rebuild the middle class and hopefully restore upward mobility. But eventually when the economy improves enough and folks get back on their feet, we need to remove tax credits for all incomes. What we cannot do is elect a plutocrat like Romney and go back to the GOP/Bush-era policies--on steroids.

WTF is wrong with you people?

Our LIAR in Chief, in action, doing what he does best: LIE

I recently saw the clip of Romney saying that he saw his father marching with Martin Luther King. There were two separate occasions where he stated "I saw my father march with Martin Luther King." When a reporter asked him "Did you see that with your own eyes?" Romney pulled a Clinton "it depends how you define the word 'is'". Because, of course Romney never saw any such thing. Listening to him try to redefine the word "saw" was hilarious. He did a pretzel bend, double reverse back flip with a triple twist.

Face it, Romney is a pathological liar. He has no principle he will not abandon if it suits his purpose. He essentially will tell you anything you want to hear and the truth plays no part in most of what he has to say. Now, you may say that all politicians do exactly the same thing, they'll lie for votes. And in most cases you'd be right. But Romney goes way beyond the average fabricator. He seems to have been born entirely without the truth bone. He 's right up there with Cheney and Bush and the aluminum tubes from Africa.

You gotta feel sorry for the guy.

It just wasn't HIS fault.

First they killed or ignored most regulations aimed to slow down corporate raiders, was THAT Romney's fault? Of course not... he's the victim here.

Then they took interest rates to all time lows at precisely the income levels he was at! How could you NOT sell-off and otherwise take every penny out of a business you could get your hands on? Low interest rates at the top end ENCOURAGE raiders and CEO to take big paydays and take money out of the business (and economy) will the taking's good. Now THAT wasn't Romney's fault either, was it?

Then, as if he wasn't sooo screwed already, he was almost legally FORCED to push all those hundreds of millions to off-shore accounts to avoid those damn taxes... again, wasn't HIS fault!

Yep. You gotta feel for him. A victim at every turn. And now he finds out that his own company screwed him by lying about his involvement on SEC filings for two years... while he got a pittance $100,000 each year for the misrepresentation. Horrible. Poor Romney.

You can't blame a guy for screwing us, our economy, and our country if it was legal, can you?

I can.

True

This is our sandbox, we're taking over, are you scared? Because you sure have dedicated a lot of time demanding that the right (you know, no to be confused with the left or the wrong) go away. Why is that? I know why, becuase you can't make a solid argument for your own philosophies and when presented with opposition you curl up, cry foul, hiss and spit, and look like the wimpy liberals that you represent.

I've got a better idea; why don't you slither your way over to Fox and see how long you last in one of their forums. Funny enough that you guys get slaughtered on a daily basis over here on one of the most liberal sites out there and over at Fox it's the same thing. Hhmmm. Keep shouting the way you do, it's entertaining. I hear it like a teenage girl shouting from her closed door bedroom when something doesn't go her way...I hear the words "just go away" shouted with no logical reason except she's upset and doesn't want to listen to reason. You're a funny little man.

Hey define "truepatriot" for me. I'm curious because I doubt highly if you would have lasted 2 minutes in an honest battle for freedom. I'm sure you would have jumped ship the first time the king made an offer to return home. Based on your philosophy the patriotism you're implying only applies if you are a citizen of France or Greece. "truepatriot", that's a hoot.