Did Biden wake up from a long nap? At least speaking shows he was breathing and has a pulse.....

Elliot, how could anyone be "an embarrassment" to American politics and Gov. Both of them stink to high heaven to begin with.

We the Comedians love to have some comic relief, especially when you have as your opponent such a humorous vulture, so dull.

SeekingSanity

Concern - where do you come up with the "idolize" remark? None of us idolize Joe or Obama but we respect their values.

OK, maybe is puppy love. Here are some values:

Accountability: not when you keep blaming some one else.

Integrity: not when you keep lying.

Respect: not one of these guys respect each other.

Romney needs to be put in his place at every given opportunity.

Truth is on the side of Democrats and the continuation of the broader, Modern, Enlightenment, which the Party of No hates.

I know it has been said, many times, many ways, the Party of No are liars, this year.

With Romney in, boredom has set in; 4 more months of joyless ride.

So Joe has to amuse himself, which Rick Santorum considers totally immoral.

The GOP better find more ways to disenfranchise Hispanic voters because the Dem's are always going to have an easier time reaching them.

I love a little bit of real humor as opposed to the same old prudish, uptight drivel. Thin walls are like a delightful challenge. That moaning sound? That was Aunt Mary's ghost getting tickled. . .

i can't believe they let Biden talk.

did he happen to mention the successes of his hometown?

Say what you want about Joe! I like him very much, also he is the only senior politician to allow his son to serve overseas in Afghanistan or Iraq. For that he is a hero to me. Find a repub or tparty dolt that was willing to sacrifice their children for the defense of our country. They talk a good story about being patriotic, but it is mostly that, just talk!!

Why I was just talking to a bucket of rocks today and we were discussing how intelligent Joe is.... Nice guy but he's like the relative that you wonder about if you'd let him out for a walk if he'd "actually" find his way home.....

Must have really needed a diversion for some other topic today (the economy, unemployment, closing Gitmo, cutting the deficit in 1/2, other broken promises, failed policy's....)? Then thinking about those listening to Joe and that really makes you wonder............."egads"!

Speaking to 1,800 Latino activists at the National Council of La Raza annual conference, Vice President Joe Biden challenged presidential rival Mitt Romney to release his tax returns, linking the Republican's lack of financial disclosure to his party's support for strict immigration laws.

Show me YOUR PAPERS Mr. Biden. Are you sure you were born in Scranton ?

I hope you told the attendees that you know how to grow plants without soil, water, or sun. BTW, what are "Senior Spots" ?

Oh, now you gave a speech at the National Council of La Raza ? Wow, just WOW.

The Reconquista Movement Takes Hold

At its core, the claim of the Reconquista (“Reconquest”) movement is that the United States stole large sections of the southwestern United States from Mexico in the 1800s. Mexicans and other Hispanics making these claims seek to reconquer this territory by taking the land away from the United States and returning it to Mexico. The goal of the Reconquista is to “reconquer” these “lost” or “stolen” territories for “La Raza”—the race indigenous to Mexico.

http://www.humanevents.com/2006/07/27/the-emreconquistaem-movement-mexicos-plan-for-the-american-southwest/

Did you tell the attendees at the "gathering" that California is about to legislate themselves into being a SANCTUARY STATE ? This could be the FIRST step in their conquest for land in the U.S.

Wow, again......this administration is talking to the "Taliban" (enemy) and Mr. Biden is talking to a group which wants to OVERTHROW the U.S. government (you can do the research).

As I am reading all of these comments I am wondering why there is such a huge divide in our country's philosophy. Most of us are struggling to meet our obligations, but I feel that the 1%'ers are brain washing so many of us to, quite frankly, believe that everything is going to **ll. We have got to get together and fight the almighty rich!! We have to stand up for our, in my case, Mid-Western, values...

The rich, the Wall Streeters, the mega men like Trump, we must not let them lead our country to distruction. When I read about the compensation packages some of these people have it enrages me. Doesnt it you?

How do we beat these rich men? How do we return our government to "we the people" instead of "we the rich"?

Barlow-1919963.....".....he is the only senior politician to allow his son to serve overseas in Afghanistan or Iraq. For that he is a hero to me. Find a repub or tparty dolt that was willing to sacrifice their children for the defense of our country. They talk a good story about being patriotic, but it is mostly that, just talk!!"

You must be on DRUGS.

So you are indicating that ONLY Democrats are serving in the military ? Guess I need to recall my son after you provide 500 Democrats to replace him. You might be able to find them in Canada.

BTW, 34 yrs in the military. What have YOU DONE for YOUR COUNTRY ?

he is the only senior politician to allow his son to serve overseas in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Ido

Thanks for your service and BTW just how senior of a politician are you?!?

Not a politician.....just a voter who is dad gum concerned where our country is heading under this administration's FAILED policies and agenda.

And, if you care to re-read the highlighted portion of Barlow's comments in my post, he/she did not indicate if a "repub or tparty dolt" had to be a politician.

And, thanks for the thanks.

BTW, 34 yrs in the military. What have YOU DONE for YOUR COUNTRY ?

I thought civil service in duty to the country was a bad thing. After all, your party hates, rages, and detests civil servants and active duty members. Aren't you the party that supports no health care for vets? The same disgusting party that denies coverage to first responders? The party that won't spend a dime towards the disaster that was 9/11. Keep it coming luv. The same party that wants insurance coverage for themselves, but no one else. What a disgusting tripe of a party - the party of 'let em die'. No thanks, I'll take support our vets, support our troops, support our people in the armed forces.

Maybe Joe felt bad because he had 5 deferments from the draft and then was given 4F status, so he told his son serve for both of us. BTW, Obama could have enlisted but he didn't and Clinton was a damn draft dodger. BTW, I can attest that during my 20 yrs in the Army (1960 - 1980 & 2 tours in Vietnam), that there were a lot more conservatives in the military than liberals.

Red - Get your head out of your rear end. Ido asked you what you have done for your country, well I guess your answer is "not a damn thing because the government should take care of all my needs from cradle to grave. No one is denying health care for vets, or first responders (which you must clarify because all firefighters and considered first responders, not just the ones in NY on 9/11). The liberals don't support anything except their own selfishness.

Not a politician.....just a voter who is dad gum concerned where our country is heading

Just a cheap bastard that can't stand the thought of one dollar and 50 cents spent on military. You either support, or you do not support. Anyone can stand behind the internet and pretend faux outrage. This one wishes he had service record to support and a son that that supports his cause. How pathetic.

Did you just cheer yourself on, RedDevPS?

Keep it coming luv.

And you are insanely misinformed.

BTW, I can attest that during my 20 yrs in the Army (1960 - 1980 & 2 tours in Vietnam)

Well, now we can just tell that is a line of BS. Two tours of V. in 20 years, oh really!! Get your groove on. You sound more like a vet that wants the entire sha-bang given to you without any service vs. service and we owe.

And you are insanely misinformed.

So you support 1st responder medical insurance. Good- when? 11 years after they were denied claims, or 12 years after they should have died by Palin death panels?

sfcret, I believe there are more conservatives in the military too because of their lack of education and, frankly, smarts, that's the only way they can make money. My liberal friends who were in Vietnam were DRAFTED and those who came home, came home maimed and damaged in ways that it's hard to quantify. And they sure as hell didn't volunteer (seems you did) to go back to that losing war fought for - now, what was the reason again? Our freedom, like the propaganda fed to people like you for going to war with Iraq? Well, we lost that Vietnam war and I didn't lose even one tiny freedom. So, what was the reason again? Our last righteous war was WWII. The rest have been a waste of human life, resources and the moral high ground.

And, yeah, I also believe Clinton "dodged" the Vietnam War. He's a smart guy, and most of the smart guys managed to do that also. Bush joined the National Guard; and that's a dodge also. Did the Guard do much fighting in Vietnam?

Back to Biden, glad he was 4F or he could have been among the dead or maimed in that war, and we wouldn't have heard him make the comment about showing papers; and that would have been unfortunate since it was such a good comment.

Joe Biden was my first choice as candidate for President in 2008. Mrs. Clinton was second with Obama as a distant 3rd. McCain/Palin seemed a bad joke perpetuated by a Republican party readily acknowledging defeat due to the miserable Bush legacy. How else could a desperate nominee resort to such an air-headed VP candidate that proclaimed her experience in foreign affairs as being able to see Russia from her back yard? That proclaimed her love of books on television while unable to name a single book that she had read.

I don't blame you John. If I knew I was gonna go down, I'd much rather go down with a gorgeous brunette too dumb to realize my fantasies of seeing her naked instead of Rudy Giuliani in drag. I would never have voted for the pair of you as President and Vice-President.

I would have gladly elected you as town Mayor and she as the slutty Head Librarian just to see how far the two of you would go. Forget you John. I would have gladly voted for her as the slutty Head Librarian just to see her raise her eyebrows and her skirt when I purposely checked out a dirty book.

Uhmmm, back to Joe Biden. He has always been a champion of the working man. His foot and mouth disease comes natural. President Obama's healthcare bill was a fu**ing big deal. Joe said it just as most of us would have said it that can't afford healthcare for our families. Sure beats Romney that condemns the same law that he championed as Governor of Massachusetts.

Hey Joe, wanna go to the downtown library with me to check out the newly elected slutty Head Librarian? Don't say a word to John McCain or Romney. They'll ruin it for both of us by claiming to be President. She will follow both of them to the nearest men's room and get naked. She hasn't a clue that we have only one President at a time until Obama jumps out of the nearest stall. Forget it, we're screwed.

Biden has to be the dumbest VP. This man had the nerve to bring up "showing papers" when his boss won't even release his college transcripts and totally lacks transparency.

Jo Ann - your knitting circle misses you. Please call them soon, dear!

Biden - 2016!

Jo Ann - President Obama was the President of the Harvard Law Review - the SAME alma mater of Mitt Romney. Now, maybe I'm taking it on faith, but I'm assuming he had pretty good grades to become the PRESIDENT of the HARVARD LAW REVIEW - which is NOT one to kowtow to someone getting a law degree.

I mean - where are Romney's own transcripts from Harvard? Or his son's transcripts from Harvard? Or his own transcripts from the $40,000/year high school he went to? 1% all the way!

Feisty - It makes sense that you'd love Biden. He has no class and has a low level of intellect. Maybe you can invite him over next February when he's looking for a free meal.

Why has Romneycare refused to release his previous tax returns? Because he knows what is in them. It's a secret. Just like his grand plan to fix everything. Just like his running mate. Everything is a big secret.

Ido, Sarah Palin's son served in Iraq. I don't know if he is now in Afghanistan or has rotated stateside.

Speaking of Palin, she is a veritable Nobel laureate compared to Joe Biden. Is this guy the 2nd best person the democrats can find?

Romney 2012!

Barlow, Track Palin, Governor Palin's son is in the Armed Forces and overseas.

Joe Biden "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking." --Joe Biden, in a private remark to an Indian-American man caught on C-SPAN, June, 2006

Who actually thinks this guy is not an embarrassment.

The party that brought us Palin, Quayle and Agnew are now deriding Joe Biden. Now that's funny.

ha ha, Dems are not 'blaming someone else'

It's not blame when it's their fault, it's called pointing something out.

repubs are blaming someone else, and started blaming him before he even got into office.

Never Stop Asking Questions - The party of NO is the Democratic controlled Senate that is sitting on 30+ jobs bills that have been passed by the house of representatives. If Democrats were honest they'd at least bring the bills to the floor and have the guts to vote them down instead of leaving them on the floor without looking at them.

The Bread Baker - what a joke. The money to run this country comes from the top 20% wage earners and it's the bottom 80% that want more from them. We need a flat tax and everyone can pay their fair share!

Poor Joe.......doesn't know the difference between legally keeping your income tax returns private and being an illegal alien. Does he still think that former Governor of NJ is still the go to guy for economic advice?

Gary

we should honor Palin's son for serving

However

He was given a choice of serving or going to PRISON. He didn't enlist out of patriotism initially. He committed and was convicted of crimes and that was his punishment.

Biden would make a lot better president than Obama

I'd respond to those that claim there's no difference between Obama's lack of military record and Romney's they're mistaken. Not enlisting when there's no war and no draft is not the same as getting 3 educational deferments and spending 1 1/2 years in Paris on a Mormon missionary exemption during the height of the Vietnam war.

BOTTOM LINE....

Obama/Biden = epic fail and record spending. Bottom line....period.

Mitt Romney refuses to do what every Presidential candidate has done starting with Mitt’s father – Why?

Mitt has several offshore accounts – Why?

Mitt created an offshore company then transferred it to his wife the night before taking the oath as Governor of Mass – Why?

You say that Senator Obama was not properly vetted yet you want to give Mitt Romney a pass – Why?

How many other Presidential candidates or Presidents have released their college transcripts? Are you suggesting this should be part of requirements for every Presidential candidate?

Dennis,

First it's all in a blind trust.

Second. If you work internationally or invest internationally, you may need an overseas account.

Mitt has several offshore accounts – Why?

I assume it is to diversify his investments. Perhaps you should ask Debbie Wasserman Shultz, chair of the DNC, about her investements in Swiss banks and the Bank of India. Let me know what she has to say.

Happy hipocracy hunting all the same, Dennis.

Hey Dennis, your DNC head is also investing overseas in Switzerland. For shame!

The truth is that there is nothing wrong with investing overseas. Taxes are paid on the money before it leaves the country and there is even a 35% repatriation tax to bring the money back in.

Who here has a problem with someone making money in another country and bringing that money back here?

DEM CHAIR WASSERMAN SCHULTZ OUTSOURCED MONEY TO SWISS BANKS, INDIA

Please excuse the loose use of the term "outsource" in my headline. But now that the Washington Post, BuzzFeed Politics, and Barack Obama have defined outsourcing as "Something Romney never did but is guilty of anyway," I wanted to get in the spirit of things.

Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been running around for a few days now sliming up the airwaves with smears and innuendo that started withthis article written by Vanity Fair's Nicholas Shaxson, a bigtime leftist and Occupy supporter. Essentially, the Wasserman Schultz talking point has been: "We don't know what Romney's hiding in his shady finances so we need to find out."

Really, Debbie? Well, we don’t know if you tortured small animals on-camera, and until you release all of your home movies we won’t know.

Obviously, in her desire to help our frantic and increasingly erratic President save his sorry self, Wasserman Schultz forgot her own record when it comes to offshoring money with the Swiss:

[D]isclosure forms reveal that in 2010, Wasserman Schultz invested between $1,001-$15,000 in a 401k retirement fund run by Davis Financial Fund. As the fund discloses, it is invested in the Julius Baer Group Ltd. and the State Bank of India GDR Ltd., as well as other financial, insurance, bank institutions.

"The Julius Baer Group is the leading Swiss private banking group, focusing exclusively on the demands of sophisticated private clients, family offices and external asset managers from around the world," its website explains. "Bank Julius Baer is the principal operating company of the Julius Baer Group, with origins dating back to 1890. The rich Swiss heritage becomes manifest in the values for which the Bank stands, e.g. trustworthiness, accountability, discretion and expertise. However, at the same time Julius Baer is a modern, forward-looking company at the leading edge of a genuine growth industry."

Similarly, according to disclosure forms from 2004, Wasserman Schultz had holdings in the Fidelity Advisor Overseas Fund. That fund is invested in HSBC bank (a British financial institution), Hengdeli Holdings (a Hong Kong watch company), Novo Nordisk (a Danish drug company), Volkswagen (a German auto company), Rakuten (a Japanese shipping business), Richemont Cie Financiere (a Swiss luxury goods company), and many others.

Wasserman Schultz also obviously forgot about New Media. After decades of Democrats counting on the mainstream media to cover up and downplay inconvenient facts such as these, you can understand how that might happen.

I don’t know about you, but I can’t wait for Wasserman Schultz's next appearance on Fox News. After all, we know no one at CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Politico, or the Washington Postwill ever talk about this. Obama's failing, and the only thing that can save him is The Narrative. -- and this kills The Narrative.

By the way, is Barack Obama still snorting cocaine? We won't know until he agrees to a blood test, will we?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/10/Wasserman-Schultz-Offshored-Money-To-Swiss

Debbie Wasserman Shultz is NOT running for President.

He knew 6 years ago he was going to run for President so why didn’t he change his accounts?

He provided John McCain 17 years of tax returns but will not provide the voters more than
one complete year – Why?

He has not worked outside government since he became Governor in 2003 so there would be no need for a foreign account for that reason.

SeekingSanity, could you share some of Romney's shortcomings that haven't been proven false of shown to be case of hypocrisy?

To this day, every single left wing media or 0bama campaign attack on Romney has failed. From the dog on the roof (0bama ate dog) to the outsourcing (0bama's stimulus sent money overseas) every one has failed to stick.

What's next? his religion?

What's next? his religion?

That or his kids. It only a matter of time. Look what they did with Palin. Liberals have no shame.

Too bad Obama is such a complete and utter failure at his job, otherwise they could run on his record.

But when 2 out of every 3 people in the country see us on the "wrong" track and your the captain of the ship all that's left is to point fingers elsewhere.

Obama is no different that a preschooler...."I didn't do it, I didn't do it, I didn't do it"

What an embarrassment!

Why hasn't Barry written a book on how he made it through school? He came from a broken home, raised by a couple racist white people & still managed to graduate from Harvard.

Debbie has her accounts but some how thinks it is different than Romney. No one has proof Romney's accounts did not pass muster a in paid appropriate taxes. The dimwits talking about this need to educate themselves about the legalities of off shore accounts. Also, Dems such a Shumer are up in arms about certain people giving up being citizens to solve estate planning taxes. So puzzle me this, I work my butt off accumulating an estate of a few million. Worked many hours. None is inherited. Why the hell should I give it to the wasteful federal and state governments
. Why is it theirs? I worked so I could give what is left to my sons and grandson. Not to be redistributed to those who were too lazy to accumulate their own estate.

@steve. In his book Dreams of my father, Obama claims his grandparents were not racists. It reminds me of my growing up in small town NJ . We did not talk about race. My parents were the live and let live types. It was not until the riots in NJ in 1967 that any discussion came. I went to shool with a small black community and I swear did not even think about my classmates color.

Good for you Lulu. The bush tax cuts need to be made permanent or even deepened. The inheritance tax needs to be abolished.

After Romney takes office and the economy picks up steam every federal agency except for national defense should be cut by 10%.

Any elected individual that votes for any type of tax increase needs to be voted out of office. All it takes is for voters/taxpayers to stand up and say enough is enough.

Oh and if you pay no federal income tax maybe you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Dennis, Mitt had to put his financial matters in a trust in 1997, before he became governor of Massachusetts.

This is something wealthy people do all the time. How "blind" the trusts are is open to debate, but in the end he has either limited or no voice and generally, the money is managed for him.

The objections to what he has done are getting downright silly.

But he didn't become Governot until Jan 2003.

Then calls for President Obama to be transparent are down right silly also.

Romney's "blind trust" is about as blind as an Eagle's. The trustee is a close family friend, and the trust invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into one of his son's businesses. that hardly qualifies as a blind trust. Romney has some clear credibility issues. they originally denied the Cayman Island investments, then after a day or two of silence and further denials, make claims the investments were made on his "blind trust".

There is nothing blind about a trust fund that invests in your families other businesses, and has a close longstanding family friend as the trustee. Why won't Romney release, or even promise to release ten years worth of tax returns? a.) It would blow his credibility and his chances for the white house.

Care to back up those claims, Ray?

If Mitt’s “blind” trust is so blind then why did the trust invest in his son's company?

Mitt can instruct the trust where, in what to invest in but he does not have to.

Nice work, Dennis. You are repeating an unsubstantiated claim.

Now if it were true, what would be the problem? Its not your money.

After a little sleuthing i have found that it was not his blind trust that invested in his sons hedge fund.

So, there you go again, lying.

http://www.businessinsider.com/romney-investment-in-tagg-romney-hedge-fund-2012-7

To be clear: Everything seems to be completely above-board here.

If this investment had been made in one of Romney's "blind trusts," we might have had a mini-scandal on our hands--because it would be hard to imagine that a "blind trust" would pick these Solamere funds out of all available funds without Romney having some say in the matter (in which case, the trusts wouldn't be "blind.)

But Romney made this investment directly.

Rob in Mass = You made a statement about Debbie Wasserman Schultz having Swiss Bank Accounts - what is your proof?

You throw out lies - check her financial statement which is a requiremant by Congress

Ooops! Forgot about Michelle Bachmann about dual citizenship in Austria

I myself want to see her letter which she said she sent to denounce her citizenship?

Too much to ask? Not really, at the times she benefited from this was lower interest rates in borrowing money

Denis (post 2.5)

Debbie Wasserman Shultz is NOT running for President

Oh My... Debbie Blabbermouth Shultz is not running for President, so anything she does is A-OK.

Such pathetic hypocrisy. How typical of liberals. Sort like John Stewart decrying Mitt Romney's large mansions, while living in a HUGE Mansion and not even paying his taxes, while having the property in the ownership of a LLC to reap tax advantages.

NOBAMA 2012!

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Hey SeekingSanity, add the "blind trust" claim to the list of debunked BS leftwing lies.

Good lord you folks are pathetic; do you have the DNC and liberal media spoon feed you and wipe your asses?

TRY THINKING FOR YOURSELVES--THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.

Here ya go Barbara, Wassermans disclosure form

http://pfds.opensecrets.org/N00026106_2004.pdf

Any more brain busters from you hacks?

"Mitt Romney, in 1994, said 'The blind trust is an age-old ruse. You give a blind trust rules. You can say to a blind trust, don't invest in properties which would be in conflict of interest or where the seller might think they're going to get an advantage from me.' ""

"'It's a conflict of interest pure and simple - and it's wrong for a U.S. senator,' said Romney. 'The fact that it's a blind trust does not hide it.' [Boston Herald. 10/19/1994] and "'A United States senator has an obligation to tell its blind trust what it cannot and can invest in,' Romney said." [The Associated Press, October 18, 1994].

One quick question for Dennis and the other left wingers complaining about Romney's bank accounts and tax returns, has be broken any laws or done anything wrong? One more question, is there any law that says he has to release any of his tax returns? He did say he would release 2011 when they have been filed. There is an old saying Dennis and I am sure you have heard it "just because someone else had done something doesn't mean you have to do it to." I am sure many of you have heard that from your parents when you complained that your friend did it so why can't I?

Perhaps you should ask Debbie Wasserman Shultz, chair of the DNC, about her investements in Swiss banks and the Bank of India

This isn't a game. We aren't trying to see who gets the most points for doing bad things. Debbie Wasserman Shultz is not running for President of the United States. Mitt Romney is. And what he's done, while not illegal is morally questionable.

You all want to shout morals when it's something mentioned in the Bible but you have no moral compass if it isn't. Do we want a guy like Mitt Romney to be President? Do we want someone who uses everyone he can find to further his financial goals? The guy has no empathy. Don't you get that? He doesn't get that a sick animal shouldn't be tied to the top of the car because it's an inconvenience. He doesn't get that a person working every day in a bakery might be proud of their work. He just doesn't get it. He doesn't connect with anyone on a human level. Watch him. He's never been you.

Just to remind you, the Bible, your book, says money is the root of all evil. You want to elect a man whose entire life has been in service of money, who has done questionable things to get it and who has no idea what it means to work for it or what it means to be without it, no matter how hard you work.

Not the guy I want for my President and I'm not even in the Middle Class.

Morally questionable? How is it morally questionable? I don't fault Romney for overseas investment no more than I fault Wasserman Shultz. A good part of my 401k is invested in international investments SO WHAT?

Romney, as Bill Clinton stated, had a STELLAR business career in which 80% of the FAILING businesses he assisted succeeded. The man knows how to creat wealth and lots of it for him, his family, his partners, his employees, and their families. Somehow you MORONS on the left think that's a bad thing.

My tax dollars go into the government coffers. You think I want MY money managed by a failed community organizer or a highly successful administrator like Romney?

If you're not a leech or intend to be Mitt Romney is the only choice. If you want to sit at home and wait for the government to take care of you vote for Obama. You might have a free ride for a couple years until Obama and the progressives totally bankrupt the USA.

Look at all the arm-waving TeaGoobs... Holy secret bank accounts Batman!

You look at Elizabeth Warren using her claimed 1/32 Native American to her advantage at Harvard and you have to wonder what Obama wrote on his applications to get his advantage. 1/2 Kenyan?

My gut tells me that is why he won't release his college records. But if not that then what?

Is he really just an average student with a mediocre GPA? Are his papers that inflammatory? Do they profess to socialism and a willful disregard for our nation's Constitution?

You see without releasing his records I am free to conjecture whatever story I want to fit the pieces together.

This is not unlike what you Liberals are trying to do to Mitt for not releasing his tax returns.

Here's news for you, I have two off shore accounts! Does that make me an evil bastard too? Could just be I work for a European Corporation who pays some of my compensation in European stock held in off shore accounts! OMG!!!!

I also have a bank account in France (from when I lived there) and I keep some money squirreled away there too. So I can hide it from the US Government? Hardly! So I can have easy access to euros when traveling in Europe which I do 6-8 times a year.

Romney is a very successful man. As a result he is a very wealthy man. He is not going to keep all his funds in one bank subject to FDIC restrictions now is he? My old man is a wealthy old fart. He keeps his money in at least two dozen banks that I know of (I do his taxes for him). Two accounts are off shore! OMG! He bought a condo in the Bahamas about 25 years ago and banks there!

Now I am more than willing to show you my transcripts from my undergraduate days and you will find out I was a C-student in Thermodynamics my junior year but damn that stuff is boring! I also wrote an English lit paper that documented a small pebble I observed being washed down the side walk in the rain - I swear I was not on drugs at the time, but I may have been overly served at the time and the paper was due the next morning. I think I got a D on that paper and the equivalent "WTF" response from the teacher. My GPA in Mechanical Engineering was 3.08, pretty average at best, but I was married with one child and working two jobs so that I could make my way in this world. If you want a link to my Doctoral paper you are welcome to it, it will cure your insomnia as it pertains to Manufacturing efficiency theory.

See how easy that is Obama? Its even cathartic.

Now for Romney. I think I would rather have a fellow who understands how to grow wealth run this country in lieu of Obama the Commie Organizer who has never met a payroll, has never given a job to someone, has not been a business success, and has never had to live within a budget.

If you can't see the wisdom in voting for a man who knows how to grow an economy versus voting for one who has proved he has not one iota of knowledge how to do that, well you are likely impaired by your substandard liberal educational upbringing - just they way they wanted it.

Dennis, I'm right with you. The posters on this blog willing to stick with Romney on his off-shore accounts fail to realize the main topic: Mitt Romney is NOT in touch with the average American! It may be that "doing business internationally requires an off-shore account", or high interest yield, or blind trust, or . . .

Bottom line is; a bus driver in Philly, a carpenter in Atlanta, a waitress in Spokane, a shrimper in New Orleans, or a community organizer in Chicago (hint!!), AVERAGE WORKING AMERICANS, DO NOT HAVE LOFTY OFF-SHORE ACCOUNTS! We're not talking French or British banking systems, but rather accounts where privacy is of the utmost importance.

Why not present and discuss this matter? Because Ole' Mitt has something to hide?

(IR)rational American = out of touch rant. Who gives a rat's @rse about your sub-par academic endeavors and excuses.

Mitt Romney is not in touch with the average American!

Since when did the office of the President of the United States of America become average?

And why would a snarky dude like JK from PA be content with an average man in the office? I'd think you'd want a top notch person for that role instead of a commie organizer. Why aren't you demanding to see if Obama is as smart as you have been programmed to believe?

I remember when the Dumocrat handlers of Kerry tried to portray John Kerry as much smarter than W in 2004 election only to find out W had better grades than Kerry did. Hearty laugh!! Odumbo isn't releasing his record because he is:

A) a dumbass and his records will show it

B) his papers are a liability politically.

C) he played a game for ethnic status in Harvard - maybe played up he was from another country.

D) all of the above

Apparently sarcasm is lost on the Keystone statists. I am curious, what grade did you get in Thermodynamics? That's right, you did not take it.

mj1451595- the bible verse actually says "The love of money is the root of all evil" it is one of the most misquoted verses in the bible. So Romney is successful and has made a lot of money, so what? That's a bad thing? As for being out of touch with the average American, what does that mean? How much do I a sales person, have in common with a roofing contractor or meter reader. I'll tell you what we do have in common, none of us are qualified to be President of the U.S.

Most people have already made up their minds about who they will vote for in November. Why then do we have to have our candidates smear each other's character? I don't care haw they behaved in high school or college. I care about their ability to do the job. Obama has proven he doesn't have the ability, so we will soon see how Romney will fare.

Not the guy I want for my President and I'm not even in the Middle Class.

mj14509806850 Does that make you a self professed snob? (because he is not even in the Middle Class.)

How nice.

That's offensive, like saying, "A white guy is not who I want for President, and I'm not even Black!"

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Enjoy this one:

http://obamanomicsoutsourced.com/

Rob in MASS

Mitt has several offshore accounts – Why?
I assume it is to diversify his investments. Perhaps you should ask Debbie Wasserman Shultz, chair of the DNC, about her investements in Swiss banks and the Bank of India. Let me know what she has to say.

Mitt created an offshore company then transferred it to his wife the night before taking the oath as Governor of Mass – Why?

Probably because those were good ways to minimize his liabilities and were recommended by his accountants. He's not a moron, like most of you sanctimonious liberals who don't pay taxes because they don't earn any money.

Romney is a liar and a crook.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/purdum/2012/07/mitt-romney-age-old-ruse-blind-trust

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/08/investigating-mitt-romney-offshore-accounts

No action period federally by the do nothing republicans. Do you know that they have added the Keystone amendment to over 30 Bills that now sit. Thank God for that! Let them rot! Republican'ts that is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

clwyd -

When did Reid switch parties? I could have sworn that he's a democrat. How many republican-sponsored bills has he pigeon-holed to date? How about mandatory budgets? Why were Obama's last two proposed budgets voted down with 0 (that's zero) votes for them?

clwyd-262

let's see passed 3 federal budget that Democrat Majority Leader won't even look at.

41 Bills that Majority Reid won't even look at.

Passed repeal of the ACA 8 times in some form

The only thing Reid and the Democrats really want to talk about is their way or the Hi-way.

56 - 65% of Americans don't like the countries current direction. The Republicans are offering a different direction, time to remove the democrats and get a different direction!

56 - 65% of Americans don't like the countries current direction. The Republicans are offering a different direction, time to remove the democrats and get a different direction!

Yet, a majority of Americans believe Dems are more suited to govern than Repubs. Until Citizens United is repealed, and corporate money and lobbyists are separated from our representation, our government will continue to disfunction, no matter what party is in the majority.

Bily bob, when you going to realize that nothing can happen until the congress acts on SOMETHING!! The pres can't pass laws, where the he** is your republican dominated House? The house is the one to create a budget and they come up with something that everyone, including them for strictly political reasons, knows can not pass the vote. And you point at the president. Well friend, when you point at him take a look at your hand and see where the other fingers are pointing, right, at you! Get a hint and lets see if you can actually do any work.

Swallowit, all budgets are considered the Presidents. BO had both houses and didn't even present a budget. This Presidents lack of leadership is astounding. He guaranteed the stimilus would bring unemoloyment down to 5.6%. Not.

Leaders take control of a problem and find a solution. BO is still blaming Bush, Regan, and the Easter Bunny for the problems he doesn't have a clue now to fix. And how about the immigration issue he was going to solve? Hope and Chenge?? s/b Hope and we'll try not to screw it up too badly.

The president doesn't present a budget when through negotiations he knows it wont be passed. President Obama was willing to give up much he opposed to get a budget passed, the republicans were strictly my way or the highway. We ended up with the highway. But you know that.

Even Romney acknowledged our economy lost 11 trillion in net worth and 400 billion a year in tax receipts under Bush. Only the blind couldn't see losing 20% of your income would affect our economy until it's made up. It will take years until our economy is back to where it was whomever is president.

Frank - and the entire slate of candidates for the GOP represent YOUR village idiots. You've got nothing and your jealousy is showing - big time!

Obama/Biden 2012

Can you imagine what an entire room of these people must be like? Oh yea we will know very soon! Im cuing up the Monty python music for the convention. 3...2....1 Cue the village idiot music.

well said seeking sanity. frank, so sorry that the gop has nothing to stand on other than not being Obama.

Frank u fail, where do you get your facts? bimbaugh radio entertainment show...lol

Obama/Biden 2012 the CLEAR Choice!

All you can say about this is Bozojoe is the perfect match to Bozobama; we'll enjoy watching them both go down in flames this November after their bumbling 4 years of failure.

The party that brought us Dan Quayle making fun of Biden.

Your tax records are not public records and can also be kept private.

umm, dude. Tax returns are also "not public records and can be kept private". I'm done with this guy.... next.

Da. Tax records have become a tradition from the time taxing started to have the president and other politicians make them public. it has become a tradition. That is not true of school record however and I don't think it should since our Governor of Wisconsin is a college dropout! If the truth were out and the horrible grades he had were made public one would wonder, even more, about his qualifications. Obama on the other hand made it to let's see which college? The tops in the land! That is good enough for me!

clwyd

Romney is a Baker Scholar (top 5% of his class at Harvard), Obama wasn't.

Romney got both his MBA and Juris Doctor at the same time while Obama just got his Juris Doctor.

Famous College Drop-outs

Bill Gates - Micrsoft Windows

Michael Dell - Dell PC's

Steve Jobs - Founder of Apple

Ted Turner

High School Drop-outs

Peter Jennings - ABC News

Albert Einstein - They may finally have solved his theories.

Thomas Edison - had a lot of bright ideas

The Wright Brothers - First Airplanes

Henry Ford - #2 Car manufacturer founder

Self Educated

Abraham Lincoln

Romney not only had a remarkable college record, but a very successful business record to back it up.

Walker won't ever qualify except for the biggest loser list. so Rob from Mass. was asking for Obama's school records. I would suggest, like you, that is doesn't hold up to any test or have anything to do with his governing or success?

Sorry, but Walker balanced his budget and his law helped every school and local government balance theirs.

My kid out of kindergarten could balance a budget. It takes will power, thick skin and courage. Even Palin had no problem balancing Alaska's budget. She got experience by paying for her education without student loans. It takes common sense. You don't get that from a juris doctor.

Yeah...Walker's just HORRIBLE for Wisconsin......Unemployment dropping, business is booming......I live in Illinois & I had to go to Wisconsin to get my current job! I drive 70 miles a day just to get to it!

Pay to play Illinois politics has us in record debt, extremely high unemployment....all typical of Democratic rule.

And in our district he has on his website that he saved us $170,000 because teachers paid 12% of their benefits. The problem is he's a liar, as our district was already having them pay 20%. Now we are cut $400,000. For a small district that is huge. One school is closing and the students will be put in the School Commons with room dividers to learn along with one class in a hallway. Great for the kind of education Walker sees as adequate. He also closed most of Milwaukee's pools when he was Co. Ex. The kids roamed the streets, but not one golf course was closed for his rich friends. He's a Sicko Wacko!

Laker Steve,

Business is not booming here. He's created 20,00 jobs in a year and a half and he promised us 250,000 in 4 years. The figures aren't in for June, but it is suppose to be unchanged or a slight drop. Since he gave $800,000,000 of the money he cut from education in the state to businesses and corporations in the forms of grants, loans and just plain give a ways his record sucks.

I can tell you are a "Flat Lander" by your ignorance of the state to your north! Stop watching so much FOX!

Daddio927

umm, dude. Tax returns are also "not public records and can be kept private". I'm done with this guy.... next.

Do you really not get why tax records might be significant about a man running for public office? Are you really that clueless? This trend toward greed and immorality being a-okay is just disturbing. When did we become a people who think it's okay to do anything for money and excuse it in our public officials? When did we become so stupid that we imagine a man who has crushed people for personal gain, has selfishly pursued his own quest for greed and has divorced himself from the average person will make a fine president?

How are school records significant? What do they say about conflicts of interest or questionable moral behavior? You know Barack Obama graduated with honors unless of course you somehow think Harvard is lying. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get into Colombia or Harvard and to stay there once you're in(unless of course Daddy is a rich alumni and pays for you to stay). You probably don't.

What difference does the rest of it make? Or are you looking for a mysterious class in Muslim studies to running around screaming about?

I'm certainly glad most of you aren't hiring people for employment. You don't have a clue what signals trouble or what might make a good employee over time.

mj-1451595 -

First of all, you are obviously a FLAMMING liberal, so anything you say is not valid. So is the whole msnbc, I mean msnbs* thing actually. You can't call someone clueless, if you yourself are clueless, which is a synonym for liberal. Anyway what I'm getting at is, you are the one that is clueless about Romney and Obama for that matter. Just because you are hating on the rich guy who worked his ass off for his money and success, doesn't mean he is "greedy" "immoral". He has never "crushed people for personal gain" like you claim. He is not "selfish" like you claim. You are just reading off the Left's teleprompter, saying the same bull@!$%# that Maddow and Mathews and all the other moron's on this Obama-centered news channel says. Also, it doesn't matter where Obama graduated or if he had honors, because it obviously doesn't show for anything, the man is incompetent. What you need to get out of this is: you are in fact the one that does not have a clue. You are just a walking piece of propaganda.

DB, you forgot to add yourself to your, "self educated" list above.

First of all, you are obviously a FLAMMING liberal

Interesting. As opposed to what? A pole-up-the-@rse, uptight, sissy?

blueinn

Sorry, Romney head to head wins.

Romney got both a MBA and his Juris Doctor as a Baker Scholar (Top 5% of his class). Obama did not achieve this on just a Juris doctor, but did receive the honor to be the editor of the Law Review.

And where is Obama's transcript from ANY school he attended?

Nobody likes Biden. They just need someone to laugh at while they guard their assets from the leechacrats, led by the Confiscator in Chief, Who's sane Obama, and his Falstaff VP, Joe the Dumber.

And where is Romney's transcript from ANY school he attended?

Where are Romney's TAX returns....what is he hiding?

You idiots don't realize that President Obama's tax returns, high school and college transcripts are in the same locker with his fake Hawaiian Birth certificate. It's nice to be surrounded by people who live in a facts optional universe, and they really think stupid is a virtue!!

You must be extremely virtuous then, Barlow, if you're still hanging on to that birther nonsense.

And where is Obama's transcript from ANY school he attended?

You are unbelievable. You think there is some conspiracy involving Harvard, Columbia and the entire state of Hawaii and the IRS? Really? I mean really? Do you have any idea how craaaazy that sounds? To what end if I might ask? I mean why would they do this?

You do not speak well for your party when you come up with things like this.

Really?? People like Joe Biden for his genuiness? Biden, of all people, can't be take at his word. Has everyone forgotten that he had to drop out of the 1988 Presidential election after being caught plagarizing a speech?

And now he's the Vice President. I guess being a liar and a plagarist don't disqualify someone from being part of this administation. Those qualities might be viewed as assets by this crowd. Didn't Obama cite Rev Wright's major flaw as being that he always has to tell the truth?

Joe might be likable for all the dumb things he says. But he is anything but genuine.

If we have had 28 months of job growth why are the Republicans being vilified for blocking ALL of Obama's policies? Could it be the Bush Tax Cuts that are still in effect?

"Job growth", Frank? You must be kidding. We need about 250,000 new jobs a month just to KEEP UP with the employment market, which mark has not been achieved in any month of this administration. There were more people who went on SS disability in June (65,000) than found jobs (60,000). The real unemployment rate is near 16%. Obama did not "get" Gadhaffi. He did not "get" Bin Laden - Seal Team 6 did. He waffled for months before approving that mission. The War in Iraq was ending anyway, and no thanks to him.

you forgot to mention the 28 conecutive months of job growth under obamas watch while we were hemorraging jobs at the rate of 700,000 a month under the former Republican President

18 months after the Bush tax cuts were enacted we experienced 6 million new jobs. Under Reagan over 6 years 18 MILLION.

Your jumping up and down about an improvement of 4.4 million over 3 1/2 years. That's 105,000 new jobs each month when experts agree that our population growth requires 150,000 to 185,000 new jobs per month? That's just silly!

And your complaint about him losing 700,000 per month. That is considered payback for a germ of an Idea started in 1977 about forcing banks to make loans with lower loan criteria than they would use to give mortgages to people who cannot afford one, then putting the federal power to enforce it on steroids in 1999.

Kurt the only reason the U-6 is under 16% is because that people ran out of unemployment, either became consultants - Like ME or applied for SS Disability (3,000,000) in the last year.

but he also got us 8.2 unemployment

No matter how well you did in math adding 4.4 million jobs over 3 1/2 years is considered a turn around when we were losing 700,000 a month when he took over. Even Romney conceded we lost 11 trillion national net worth and 400 billion a year in tax revenue under Bush. Hard to slash what Obama had to spend by 20% and expect job creation that equaled boom times.

Slodon: You do realise, i hope that we still had the Bush tax cuts as we were bleeding 700,000 jobs a month don't you. Claiming tax cuts that didn't prevent the collapse somehow cured it show's a lack of thought, don't you think?

He has more class in his little finger than you do in your whole body-Lol !!

Just like you!

Wasn't Ol' Joe called a Racist during the 2008 Primary?? Didn't he say that Obama was "articulate"?

I think by the same republicans that in Texas have part of their state platform, " No more teaching of Critical Thinking!" They all want to be alike!

I've said that for years. Virtually no Republican voter fraud, they don't promise food stamps and an ever increasing welfare state, they don't encourage hiring thousands of useless federal employees and they don't try to trick the uneducated voters with class warfare and race baiting. How do they get elected indeed?

bill bob philly - Let me bring you up to Biden's history - right when he was elected to the Senate his wife and his little girl was killed in a car accident - he was 29 years of age at the time and his two surviving sons - one was hospitalized - and he visited the hospital daily

Joe Biden tried to keep his two surviving sons as his family - plus exercising his new duties as a Senator

Joe Biden in his terms as a US Senator excels at Foreign Affairs and that is one of the reasons he was selected to be VP

Joe Biden is a man of honor- a real family man - and an honor to this country

So Billy Bob - whatever your real name is you sir are off base and should be ashamed of yourself

Actually Joe Biden stands behind his real name not some coward who is afraid to tell us who you are - just another uninformed billy bob from who knows where and has not accomplished a gd thing

And all of this 'history' makes him suitable, makes him qualified for the office of "Senator" or "Vice President"?

You have such a feeble mind I am now concerned about your future.

"Joe" would not be able to grab either ass cheek in a well lit room if given 34 minutes. You know that and so does Joe. Joe is so far in over his head that it will take a miracle to pull him out.

Thank you Barbara, well said. I like Joe Biden, at least he's real, unlike what the GOP throw out there. The haters on his vine never cease to amaze me as to how stupid they can go...

Obama/Biden 2012

Actually Barbara making his screen name Billy Bob tells us all we need to know about him.

Yeah, he's like the guy at the bar you buy a round for, just to keep him around.

Biden strategy:

"A fool can fool fools if he is fool of it".

My god logico - you just explained the Republican's mantra - thank you for clearing that up

"Also tell a lie often enough people will believe it" Goebels alias Karl Rove

Barbara,

Your "tell a lie often enough people will believe it", came from the left. How many times has the left told us about the big chocolate donut in the sky. They have repeated this so often that people not only see the big chocolate donut and want a piece of it, they are willing to pay for it.

I realize you will not be able to comprehend the above statement, but that's OK.

By the way, I'm not hiding behind some made up name.

For YEARS the dude who got the prize and entered the Oval Office let everyone in on his health, his finances, his education, his religion and his vision for America. This repugnant dude has done none of that. In fact his FIRST Executive Order was to prevent anyone from ever seeing the paperwork. Why ? Because it would reveal him as a ‘foreign student’, it would suggest strongly that his sper m donor was a dude named Frank Marshall Davis and that he did NOT attend Columbia in the time frame he claimed.

And most of them never really LIED as proficiently as this humbug now in the Oval Office. And as best we can figure every one of the dudes elected were Americans, proud of being an American and never ever bowed to mooslum leaders, or never ever apologized for America's greatness.

These dudes spoke about the scientific, medical and other contributions which the Nation provided to the world. They spoke about highways, schools, water works, sewers, air ports, sea ports and our ever rising, never flagging economy.

And they, to our knowledge, never begged foreign leaders to 'have a pity party ' for us.

This humbug must be evicted from Office this November with a crushing defeat.

Start packing Marion, Valerie. moochelle and 'little barry'. Chicago is calling.

Josh: Obama's first executive order was to protect his school records? LOL. There's an old saying, better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.

The only way the Democrats can win in November is if they rouse the rabble of losers, malcontents, one-issue cry-babies and free-loaders.

This is the ultimate of low-class warfare conducted by a party that believes that the larger the lower class, the more powerful theIr party will be.

They employ the old union tactics of bullying the boss (the taxpayer) into giving them what he can't afford. It was so successful in the last century, that people either closed their businesses or outsourced all their labor to third world countries. One look at Europe proves the point.

The problem with socialist Democrats is that they either DON'T KNOW HISTORY, CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT, or KEEP IT OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS and OFF THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA so that they can contol our ignorant populace even against their own best interests.

Almost everything Obama's done since in office has been to address unemployment. As for debt under Romneys plan his tax cut on the top rate from 35% to 25% will cost us 5 trillion over 5 years and be paid for by increasing taxes by eliminating the home mortgage deduction and taxing curreltly exempt employer health plans. And he's proposed raising the military budget by 260 billion.

A plan to transfer 5 trillion from the middle class to the rich and spend 260 billion more on the military won't by any math lower our debt.

Logico: Try researching Swiss interest rates they're currently at 0. Since Romney refuses to release his tax and financial information how could anyone know he's paid all appropriate taxes? When you're the first candidate in history to have bank accounts in contries known to be tax shelters only a fool wouldn't want to know for sure he's not a crook.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/08/investigating-mitt-romney-offshore-accounts

Ironically, it was Mitt’s father, George Romney, who released 12 years of tax returns, in November 1967, just ahead of his presidential campaign, thereby setting a precedent that nearly every presidential candidate since has either willingly or unwillingly been subject to. George, then the governor of Michigan, explained why he was releasing so many years’ worth, saying, “One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show.”

But his son declined to release any returns through one unsuccessful race for the U.S. Senate, in 1994, one successful run for Massachusetts governor, in 2002, and an aborted bid for the Republican Party presidential nomination, in 2008. Just before the Iowa caucus last December, Mitt told MSNBC, “I don’t intend to release the tax returns. I don’t,” but finally, on January 24, 2012—after intense goading by fellow Republican candidates Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry—he released his 2010 tax return and an estimate for 2011.

Steve - I can top you Republican Party for the Advancement of uninformed people - or alias Fox Entertainment

How about the congressional black cockus, I find that far more racist and disgusting!

Actually Quayle was instructed to wait for the light in front of him before saying correct. The person holding the button was the screw-up.

For YEARS the dude who got the prize and entered the Oval Office let everyone in on his health, his finances, his education, his religion and his vision for America. This repugnant dude has done none of that. In fact his FIRST Executive Order was to prevent anyone from ever seeing the paperwork. Why ? Because it would reveal him as a ‘foreign student’, it would suggest strongly that his sper m donor was a dude named Frank Marshall Davis and that he did NOT attend Columbia in the time frame he claimed.

And most of them never really LIED as proficiently as this humbug now in the Oval Office. And as best we can figure every one of the dudes elected were Americans, proud of being an American and never ever bowed to mooslum leaders, or never ever apologized for America's greatness.

These dudes spoke about the scientific, medical and other contributions which the Nation provided to the world. They spoke about highways, schools, water works, sewers, air ports, sea ports and our ever rising, never flagging economy.

And they, to our knowledge, never begged foreign leaders to 'have a pity party ' for us.

This humbug must be evicted from Office this November with a crushing defeat.

Start packing Marion, Valerie. moochelle and 'little barry'. Chicago is calling.

Qayle got ripped to shreds in the VP debates, he was a talking suit that looked good until he opened his mouth. Anyone watching the debates were embarrassed. He kept trying to compare himself to JFK until put in his place with, Sir, I knew John F. Kennedy and you're no John F. Kennedy.

What's the worst you'd get with Obama's school records that he did a paper considered anti white or had low grades? Then again what's the worst that a check of Romney's business dealings are when he won't even explain to standards his father set?

"The media soon noticed Romney’s familiarity with foreign tax havens. A $3 million Swiss bank account appeared in the 2010 returns, then winked out of existence in 2011 after the trustee closed it, as if to remind us of George Romney’s warning that one or two tax returns can provide a misleading picture. Ed Kleinbard, a professor of tax law at the University of Southern California, says the Swiss account “has political but not tax-policy resonance,” since it—like many other Romney investments—constituted a bet against the U.S. dollar, an odd thing for a presidential candidate to do. The Obama campaign provided a helpful world map pointing to the tax havens Bermuda, Luxembourg, and the Cayman Islands, where Romney and his family have assets, each with the tagline “Value: not disclosed in tax returns.”

Romney’s personal tax rate is a particular point of interest. In 2010 and 2011, Mitt and Ann paid $6.2 million in federal tax on $42.5 million in income, for an average tax rate just shy of 15 percent, substantially less than what most middle-income Americans pay. Romney manages this low rate because he takes his payments from Bain Capital as investment income, which is taxed at a maximum 15 percent, instead of the 35 percent he would pay on “ordinary” income, such as salaries and wages. Many tax experts argue that the form of remuneration he receives, known as carried interest, is really just a fee charged by investment managers, so it should instead be taxed at the 35 percent rate. Lee Sheppard, a contributing editor at the trade publication Tax Notes, whose often controversial articles are read widely by tax professionals, is nonplussed that the Obama campaign has been so listless on the issue of carried interest. “Romney is the poster boy, the best argument, for taxing this profit share as ordinary income,” says Sheppard.

In the face of such arguments, Romney’s defense is that he never broke the rules: if there is a problem, it is in the laws, not in his behavior. “I pay all the taxes that are legally required, not a dollar more,” he said. Even so. “When you are running for president, you might want to err on the side of overpaying your taxes, and not chase every tax gimmick that comes down the pike,”

Jean - If McCain had been elected you had no problem with Sarah Palin would be President? You need to visit a shrink

Or better yet girl rethink your statement and start using reasoning, I know that is a stretch but grow up

Actually, my thought when McCain announced Sarah Palin as his Veep candidate was that he had lost the election well before the election. I use reasoning all the time. That is why I know a jackass when I see one. And i keep my eyes open, and do not close them to jerks.

It must be hard for you to look in the mirror.

Dan Qayle was great wasn't he?

Yahwaaan, you ever have a thought of your own??

Check out this idiot^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If there wasn't so much wrong with Obama, we wouldn't have much t say.

Hey Joe - Have you noticed - she's not running for president? Or are you that obtuse to grap at straws

Let's face it little boy if you are not born of money - you will never be the 1% - however - with the right advantages you can make a good living

But the way this country is skewed right now - it needs an adjustment - OKAY?

Barbara,

Your condescending remarks of calling others on this site, "girl" or "little boy" and perphaps more, leaves me not choice but to offer the following.

Someone once said, "It is better to memain silent and let ALL think you are ignorant, rather than open your mouth and remove ALL doubt". Think about it Barbara.

By the way, any attempt to respond to this will further prove my point.

Barbara: Whatever your intent don't do that. I've agreed with everything you said until the little boy comment it simply makes you seem petty.

Show your grades OBAMA

As Romney would say joe, Screw you.We all know your a closet Obama lover,come out joe,come out.

joe thomas - Show your intelligence!

Ranmarie: So you're saying you have the inside track on Obama school records??? If they are really that good why isn't he releasing them so we can all be proud to have such a smart president. OR could it be that you're just making it all up because that's what Democrats do.

Believe'nAmerica - What the hell has school records got to do with anything? Bill Gates never graduated college and look what he did

Why are you so obsessed in trying to prove this president is a charlatan when you didn't give a dam about Bush's records

Grasping at straws - so cut the crap - we know where you are coming from in trying to discredit this president

You are a fat white guy - who in twenty - thirty years if you live that long this country will be brown

Oh my god, isn't that why the lilly whites throng the beaches to become tan?

And by the way the lilly whites are more prone to skin cancer

Barbara, it's obvious to everyone, they don't have any hope so they are down to school records??? Wow, pretty weak. Grasping is putting it mildly, I think the ones that aren't on this thread are out looking to see if he posted his kindy Garden records.

Thanks for your researching his years of getting educated, however, regardless of his GPA, where he received his degrees or how many he has, it doesn't justify his total failure in leading this great nation to the "MESS" we're in today.

Tell me how the HNIC, with his lack of money as a teen and his lack of focus (he openly admitted that his last years in high school were spent an a drunken, drug induced fog) ends up in a school where the tuition is over $100,000 a year then progresses on to Harvard where the tuition is even greater?

Who paid? Not his mother. She was broke and there is no record of any endowment supporting him.

Verified CIA Front, Business International Corp, Paid for Obama’s Columbia College Tuition

by admin on February 25, 2010

After graduating from Columbia University in 1983, Barack Obama went to work for a firm called Business International Corporation (BIC), a firm that was linked to economic intelligence gathering for the CIA. For one year, Obama worked as a researcher in BIC’s financial services division where he wrote for two BIC publications, Financing Foreign Operations and Business International Money Report, a weekly newsletter. An informed source has told WMR that Obama’s tuition debt at Columbia was paid off by BIC. In addition, WMR has learned that when Obama lived in Indonesia with his mother and his adoptive father Lolo Soetoro, the 20-year-old Obama, who was known as “Barry Soetoro,” traveled to Pakistan in 1981 and was hosted by the family of Muhammadmian Soomro, a Pakistani Sindhi who became acting President of Pakistan after the resignation of General Pervez Musharraf on August 18, 2008. WMR was told that the Obama/Soetoro trip to Pakistan, ostensibly to go “partridge hunting” with the Soomros, related to unknown CIA business.
The covert CIA program to assist the Afghan mujaheddin was already well underway at the time and Pakistan was the major base of operations for the CIA’s support. Obama also reportedly traveled to India, again, on unknown business for U.S. intelligence. WMR has been told by knowledgeable sources that Obama has, in the past, traveled on at least three passports: U.S., Indonesian, and British. BIC also maintained a European subsidiary, Business International S.A., in Geneva. BIC had long been associated with CIA activities since being founded by Eldridge Haynes, a self-professed liberal Democrat. The BIC headquarters was located at the prestigious address of 1 Dag Hammarskjold Plaza in Manhattan. BIC held a series of off-the-record, no press, meetings between top U.S. business executives and top government officials, including the President, and the Secretaries of State, Defense, Treasury, Commerce, and Labor; the Attorney General, Senate leadership, and the heads of the Export-Import Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank. BIC held international meetings in locations like Brussels and Mexico City.

In 1986, BIC was bought by the Economist Group in London and its operations were merged with the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU). There have been a number of reports that the EIU works as closely with Britain’s MI-6 intelligence service as BIC once worked with or for the CIA. One of BIC’s directors was the late Lord Pilkington, who was also a director of the Bank of England. Obama’s work for a company having ties to the CIA barely registered a blip on the 2008 presidential campaign radar screen. At the very least, Obama helped in providing economic intelligence to the CIA as a contract employee. At most, Obama was, like previous BIC employees who operated abroad for the CIA, a full-fledged non-official cover (NOC) agent. Since President Obama has backpedaled on CIA renditions and torture, as well as warrantless electronic surveillance by U.S. intelligence, he owes the American people a full explanation of the circumstances behind his being hired by BIC, what his job actually entailed, and whether he continued to have a relationship with BIC or any other CIA operation while attending Harvard Law School and thereafter.