That banner says all there is to say. LOL

Romney and his guests received a loud – and at times profane – welcome from dozens of protesters representing organizations from Occupy Long Island to Greenpeace...

Ironically, they probably caused the donations to increase.

SI

[Ooooooh, all of sixty protestors?....]

According to local law enforcement officials it was more like 200...Mittens better get used to it...it's only going to get worse for him.

The Koch Brothers and others who attended are set for more greed and know that multi-millionaire Romney, with off-shore hidden funds can be bought . They also know he knows what they want $, but not what Americans need. Mitt and his pit-crew have no idea what life for the middle and lower class is like!

Occupy the presidential campaigns!

Old fat guy - since you are blogging I doubt you are in the elite group of Willard, but a troll. I doubt you are even paid. Willard kept millions in offshore banks: Ireland, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands to name a few. Google it and it's been known he keeps 30+ million in tax free Cayman Island and 3+ million in his swiss account. Yet, he has NOT shared his income tax for this year, opting to request an extension. I can only presume so he can earn more interest.

YET the right wing lemmings would rather have this greedy/selfish/conniving swindler run this country when you all should know he is not in this for the American people. He is in this to protect his own selfish interests. And this is fine with his fellow 1% elitist group. The Koch brothers and Adelson along with other multi millionaires even outside the country are pouring in millions to Carl Roves Super Pac. It's unbelievable that you can use over 100 million in negative ads. GUT feel - because anyone with an ounce of sense should see that those monies will also be used to BUY people that will help their cause in winning the WH. Why are all these ReTHUG governers in several states suppressing voters that would most likely vote Democratic?? Think about it! Because for those of you who continue to support the vile GOP party - obviously it hasn't sunk in that you've been had.

Romney, like congress, are already all bought. Very few representing us are not. Money is the problem. Always will be until rightous leaders lead. We can fix congress. We must engage more when selecting our reps. Common sense tells us there are people amoung us with visions better than these stains we have now.

I wonder what the protesters have accomplished financially under Obama or any other administration

It is what they know most of us won't accomplish under a Romney administration that's the question.

old fat guy-1144960

Banner financed by George Soros?

Q: What do the Koch brothers want? A: Continued record profits from fossil fuels. Q: What would Soros want? (Jeopardy music here...)

Also, rightwing simpletons think progressives are against Romney because he's rich. Uh, no, it's about policy. FDR was very rich but his policies were about the rest of the country who were not rich. It's somewhat about how Romney got rich--Vulture Capitalism via Private Inequity--and what he does to keep his riches as well.

It's not illegal to cheat on your wife while she has cancer, but is that they type of person we want as president? It's not illegal to evade taxes by keeping money in offshore accounts (per the Tax Evasion Industrial Complex that only the rich enjoy), and also being secretive about it, but is this the type of person we want as president? Character matters.

From MHP: Republicans are against the mandate. Republicans are against President Obama because [they claim] he is an out-of-touch elitist. Republicans are against outsourcing of American jobs. Therefore they nominated Willard Mitt Romney. WTF?

Mitt Romney's Human Rights Facts:

1. Wants a federal marriage amendment to divorce legally married gay couples.
2. Laughed-off his leading roll in bullying a fellow classmate for being gay.
3. Has donated $10,000 to NOM - one of the most vehemently anti-gay groups.
4. Wants to form a gov. commission to investigate activities of equal advocates.
5. Thinks it's a "burden" that business can't fire LGBT people.

Learn more about Mitt Romney's anti-gay stances at:
www.hrc.org/mittnmatch

Ooooooh, all of sixty protestors?

Wait until the Republican convention when the entire country is watching, smarta$$! Flip Flopmey's a loser and you know it. This is just the beginning.

Obama is clearly the better choice in my opinion. PROVEN rightous leadership even with a dysfunctional congress.

Republicans are against outsourcing of American jobs.

So they've convinced their teabag sheep of that, when in reality, they started that ball rolling under their patron saint Ronnie Raygun.

Therefore they nominated Willard Mitt Romney. WTF?

Like they thought we wouldn't notice. LMAO. I knew their stable was thin, but you think in four years they could've come up with someone better than this. I mean, really. Even these dumba$$ baggers have a hard time defending him.

tonybeeerm

Even these dumba$$ baggers have a hard time defending him.

One would think, but try they must. Sorry about the length (format issues), but this is from a chain Email being distributed among the Teapublican faithful:

Some Interesting Facts about Romney:

Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store in Massachusetts,

turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores employing 90,000

people.

Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of business miracles

again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather

Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and

many others.

He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial

campaign 1 year.

He was an unpaid intern in his dad's governor's office for eight years.

He was an unpaid bishop and stake president in his local church organization for ten years.

He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee for three

years.

He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts for four

years.

He gave his entire inheritance from his father to charity.

Mitt Romney is one of the wealthiest self-made men in our country but has

given more back to its citizens in terms of money, service and time

than most men.

And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost 19% of his

income.... Just for comparison purposes, Obama gave 1% and Joe Biden gave

$300 or .0013%.

Mitt Romney is Trustworthy:

He will show us his birth certificate

He will show us his high school and college transcripts.

He will show us his social security card.

He will show us his law degree.

He will show us his draft notice.

He will show us his medical records.

He will show us his income tax records.

He will show us he has nothing to hide.

Mitt Romney's background, experience and trustworthiness show him to be a

great leader and an excellent citizen for President of the United

States.

You may think that Romney may not be the best representative the Republicans

could have selected. At least we know what religion he is, and that he won't

desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or practice fiscal

irresponsibility. We know he has the ability to turn this financial debacle

that the current regime has gotten us into. We won't like all the things

necessary to recover from this debt, but someone with Romney's background

can do it. But, on the minus side, He never was a "Community Organizer",

never took drugs or smoked pot, never got drunk, did not associate with

communists or terrorists, nor did he attend a church whose pastor called for

God to damn the US.

Holy f-n cow, there is so much wrong with this.

Bain was started by Bill Bain. When Romney was hired on, he negotiated zero risk of his own. Romney doesn't accept earned income and/or donates it to charity (e.g., speaking fees) because EARNED INCOME is taxed at a higher rate than the 13% he paid in his 2010 returns. Ditto on other charity, mostly 10% tithing that all Mormons pay.

But the most outrageous is the claim that Romney is providing his tax returns -- Even Nixon provided three years worth. And of course the trustworthy part. Hahahaha!

Know your enemy, the blind, ignorant Teapublican supporters who will vote for ABO with an 'R' next to his/her name. They believe this BS. Progressives, get out the vote! Those of you in swing states, get out and take three other people with you--and check ID and other requirements first.

Obama/Biden - 2012!

They were protesting about deep pockets? Where were they when Obama was in Seattle and had a fundraiser in Medina (you know, that place where Bill Gates lives) and in Bellevue (you know, where all of Bill Gates' employees live), where each plate costs just as much as at a Romney fundraiser? Oh, and then drove back to his plane, closing an entire bridge during rush hour traffic (if you are from this area, and especially if you live on the Eastside, that is a big freaking deal), even though he had a helicopter at his disposal. Yeah. What a friend to the working man. Whatever anyone says about Romney or Obama, they are exactly the same. They both court rich donors, because that is who pays for their commercials and signs. Frankly, I don't see the big deal. These people have the right to support whomever they want, and give their money to whomever they want. My husband is a veteran who served his country in Afghanistan, came home, got a college degree, and hasn't been able to get a job in over a year. Obama hasn't done jack squat for jobs, and it is insulting when terrible jobs numbers come out and he tries to spin it so that it looks like he has done something, when everything is just as crappy as it was before. Awesome. I am tired of trying to figure out which is the lesser of two evils. It would be great if there were actually a decent option in an election for a change. Where is an Abraham Lincoln when you need one?

OldFatGuy: I imagine a good many of them have accomplished as much as they possible could given the fact that the financial deck is stacked against them and Romney wants to make it more unfair. The Kochs are a pariah on the American landscape. They should be relieved of ALL their fortune and made to get real jobs so they can see how "easy" it is for those who work for a living. Romney is just a Koch wannabe who will do and say anything to get elected.

My bad, he didn't close a bridge. He closed and entire Interstate. Even better.

Just look at how many fools are running around carrying water for the Koch brothers tonight.

To the 60 protestors who decided to grandstand YOUR opinions at the Hamptons;

1.How many of you use cell phones or computers? The odds are they are manufactured in non American facilities.

2. Check your clothing labels. Odds are they are ALSO designed in China or Central American sweat shops.

3. If you drive any vehicle ala Nissan,Toyota,Saab,Volkswagon it too is non American manufactured.

So,as you all stand tall and rattle the sabre of "Truth and Making a Statement" bare in mind a major Obama supporter is George Soros and his support of Obama is just like the people YOU condemn today.

I laugh at your efforts. I also chuckle at your nieve thinking. Enjoy the sunburn from the beachhead.PS: the sun tan lotion has derivitives from China you are utilizing. MMMUUUAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

.

ldo,

Seriously?

Please explain how Romney would improve your life. Please include details and FACTS. Exactly how much of the Romney, Koch, Adelson, etc. wealth tinkled down on YOU? Maybe, if we gave them even more, they would look kindly on the rest of us. Without our labor, they would have nothing!!

As to the fundraising issues: Yes, President Obama is going to fight back against those who would destroy our beautiful land for their own profit. Sadly, these people could become even richer, if they embraced the future and worked FOR us, instead of against us.

The banner reads: 'Romney has a COCK problem?'

Well, erectile dysfunction as a preexisting condition is now covered under ObamaCare, Romney should be grateful to Pres. Obama

Mitt deserves some privacy on this.

@fuzzybear ,

As a 20 year veteran myself I can understand your frustration with the job piece as it took nearly a year before I was able to find work. The only difference is that I retired in '09 when we were shedding more jobs than making in this country. As for shutting down an interstate, that would have been done REGARDLESS who the president is for security purposes. As for jobs, I look at it from both sides: Giving EVERYTHING he has gone through, I will say the President has done his best to create as many jobs he has in the 27 months of continued growth. Remember he has done this with a republican base that has vowed to do NOTHING to get this country on the right track and EVERYTHING to make him a one term president. The other side is that the president could have done more to make the republicans comply or put them on the spot. In my opinion, doing that would have forced the GOP to do "something" for the country instead of giving them a pass. Just something to think about. Having said that let me address the "fundraising" issue:

I don't believe that they are protesting the "fundraising" issue but rather what the Koch brothers stand for. They are for the same thing the democrats are with the opposite intention. Have the government give them(the ultra rich) all the tax breaks while the poor and middle class pay for everything. Basically the same policies that are in place now. Most people are fed up with the notion that the 1% of this country and literally throw millions and millions of dollars into a "Super PAC" and remain nameless while dwelling in "fear" tactics to distort and manipulate the truth to the uninformed voter in order to achieve their objective. This goes for both sides the only difference is the republicans have been doing it for years (using superpacs) while the democrats are started recently.

As far as the job numbers, I LOVE how republicans can say that these numbers are unacceptable when they have done NOTHING to help create jobs (jobs, jobs, jobs. remember) UNTIL last week. They say the president is a failure on the economy BUT if you look at his numbers since he has been elected, he has created more jobs in less time than ANY president in recent history, since he put in place the regulations on wall street, there is less corruption, golden parachutes AND the stock exchange has grown roughly 5%(ball park figure).

The republicans say he has applied more money to the debt than any president BUT they don't want to admit they are part to blame. Every idea or policy he has propose was paid for(closing loop holes, tax increase for those making over 1 million, cuts in certain programs, etc) yet oppose by republicans AND some democrats over and over again. Yet they don't want you to remember this part.

President Obama has NOT been the "leader" we expected him to be as he allows himself to get bullied and pushed around. This IS an issue with me and it is sad because he has the potential to be a great president in my opinion HOWEVER he he needs to learn to stand his ground and not give in for the sake of "compromise".

To me this election is a no brainer. Given the two candidates we have, Obama is the logical choice. UNLESS Romney shows or produces SOMETHING other than the "standard republican response"(speak negatively, say they have a plan, give no details), I can't honestly see voting for him. I honestly feel in my gut he just wants to be president just to say he did what his father couldn't do. he's not liked by most of the republican base BUT they will vote for him because he's not Obama(there's another reason too that is obvious). What the will come to realize is that Romney has stated clearly who he is for and it's sad that those who he is NOT for THAT vote for him will be asking themselves why IF he wins in November.

The Koch brothers employ almost 70,000 people.

HOW MANY DO YOU AND YOUR BROTHER EMPLOY?

No wonder I spend all my free time trying to learn paint (oil - to express my feelings about death and money) and writing in my journal. Think it is time to blow this Popsicle stand, we Americans have lost our collective minds!

Here is an example of what is wrong with the "reporting" on this site-context is never used, if it might show Obama in a bad light.

When you have this
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/anti-romney-protesters-say-theyre-paid-to-heckle

It's pretty hard to take this story seriously.

This is, however, another example of Obama's approach to absolutely everything- if something is wrong, THROW MONEY AT IT!

So, now, he's paying protesters, airing ads filled with provable lies, and making idiotic pronouncements about the economy- all while deficit spending his campaign coffers.

Buh bye, Obama. It's been real.

no joe no bo nj Show some proof that these protesters are paid. What do you think mitts ads are all true? If you do you must be the most gullible person in America.

By the way koch kills.

Nice try at deflection, old fat guy, but the protestors have a point. We need to get control back from the big government, big bank, big investor, big cheat corporations. I'm tired of corporate welfare that lets people like the Kock brothers mooch off working Americans. Down with them, and their mouthpiece Romneycare.

j.d.still Union Goons who force workers to give them money to fly around in private jets....... Dude thats a bold faced lie. If you have some proof of your lies show it. Do you type with your nose because it gets longer with each lie. Your quite the wooden right wing puppet.

Smitty

Really DUDE?

Try working for a Union controlled business and refuse to pay union dues, see how that works for You,(and Who do you think controls that required , forced, coerced, money, and just how do You think Union bosses became part of the one percent? look it up, check out their salaries and where they go to hold their fancy ,oh, sooooo important meetings when they are deciding what politicians to buy,between massages and golf, and how they travel to get there),then try taking Your nose out of Your nether regions long enough to read and think.

And all this time, liberals say they don't do this kind of thing LOL.

Obama sucks less.

Obama 2012

j.d.still Yes you DUDE.

In my younger days I was a union carpenter, all the members of that Local were all good Americans. No one was coerced or forced to do anything they didn't want. You know it sounds like your comparing Union Leaders to the heads of corporations who are doing the same thing to lower wages, lower benefits make one work more than a forty hour week. By the way do you like your weekends off thank that to the Unions. If it were not for the Unions There would be no middle class. Take a look back at how Ford hired thugs to beat workers in the early days of the Unions. Also remember when the people regained power in Poland in the eighties it was the Union that did that. It may take awhile but the Unions will be back, people will see that giving the corporations all the say is not in their best interest.

Dont_carry_it_all:

"That banner says all there is to say. LOL"

Are you refering to Obamas actual coke (cocain) problem he has admitted to?

"You know, I made some bad decisions …. You know, got into drinking and experimenting with drugs."

Quote from a speech he gave in 2007

Bob - 162#####s -- Relax and go smoke something.

Smitty

The most essential ingredient embodied in the liberty championed by the classical liberal writers of the Enlightenment and beyond, is INDIVIDUAL CHOICE and RIGHT OF EXPRESSION. The RIGHT of Persons to say what THEY think, decide for THEMSELVES what groups THEY want to join. What religion THEY want to profess. What Person THEY want to marry. What goods THEY want to buy or sell and what Persons THEY want to represent THEM. ONE IMPORTANT ECONOMIC DIMENSION OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY IS THE RIGHT TO SELL ONE'S LABOR SERVICES WITHOUT ATTENUATION,THAT IS, WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE THEIR TERMS OF AGREEMENT,(e.g. wage rates and hours of work),OR WHO WILL REPRESENT THE WORKER IN REACHING THOSE TERMS.

RIGHT TO WORK LAWS:LIBERTY, PROSPERITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE by Richard Vedder

According to the 2009 Census between 2000 and 2008, 4.7 million workers moved from Union controlled to right to work states, (That's more than one worker per minute!).

So You go ahead and stay in Your "Worker's Paradise",of Detroit, New York, or where ever, maybe You too can be among the lucky few unemployed union day workers selected to hold a protest sign on a beach somewhere.

Bain Capital invests in failing companies (their money) and has a 79% success rate of making profitable.

Profits mean jobs!

Man, you baggers realy need to stop worshipping BAin and the rest of Corporate America as Jesus.

Lots of companies spend their profits on automation and outsourcing (both job killers despite the higher profits) American corporations are sitting on over a trillion in profits right now, and they arent hiring. Therefore your direct coorelation of Profits and jobs is false, sport.

But hey, just keep bowing to kiss the ring azz of your new God ; The Koch Brothers and their idol the Golden Pig

"So, now, he's paying protesters"

Your source cites folks who won't give their names or who speculate that other people in other groups may be getting paid. And this is what you consider credible evidence? It seems to come from the Faux News School of Journalism where 'a source' is "Some say that......"

Phine - Having cancer will do that to you. You spend so much time concentrating on yourself, your friends and family that some of the crap you see and hear and read that used to make a difference in your life no longer seems to matter. You just have to strain it out. Since almost 8-years have passed since I went into remission, I find my self actually letting some of the crap back in. Kind of freaks me out but I have always been fascinated with history and politics. Be selfish and rest and take care of yourself now. Read the book Me Talk Pretty One Day by David Sedaris. It will make you laugh.

You know the liberals and their willing media accomplices are desperate when 60 protesters make national news.

What's next, the Obama campaign using Mitt's donors for their campaign quotes? Whoops, already did that too.

Sad that after nearly 4 years and $6 trillion in new debt the only thing liberals and their President have it to try and vilify the other guy.

The self appointed, overly self righteous, "saviors of our nation" are at it again.

@TruePatriot, yes, there is so much wrong with what's in that Teabagger e-mail. One of the many LIES that sticks out is the claim that Obama only gave 1% to charity. Maybe that's just a typo there and they forgot one of the digits, but the true figure is 14% --- the Obamas gave FOURTEEN PERCENT of their income to charity (same as Romney), not 1%! Lying seems to be the only way these rightwingers know how to try to win an election. Facts never help them, so they have to lie.

Funny, I don't recall any MSNBC articles about protests at Obama/Binden fundraisers.

Maybe they never happen, or maybe MSNBC chooses to not report on them. ALTHOUGH, I know that Biden was confronted by over 100 angry coal miners in West Virgina last May during a speech, but not from reading about it in MSNBC.

http://www.wtov9.com/news/news/protesters-voice-concerns-during-bidens-campaign-s/nN8KX/

NOBAMA 2012!

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No, John, we just saw endless coverage of teabagger protesters screaming at town hall meetings of Democratic members of Congress, drowning out everything they were saying.

They're a freakin' joke. That's why Mitt can't find anyone to be his running mate.

Mitt should pick, Dick "the Water-boarder "Cheney.

I heard that Cheney now has a heart, for the first time in his life...LOL!!!

Romney would be tough to protest.

He changes his positions so much, that protesters would have to have three sets of signs.

• Question: What is a Romney?
• Answer: A tool used by the richest 1% to drill and screw the remaining 99%.
• Question: Then why are so many people thinking the tool is the right tool for the job?
• Answer: Well Billy, Americans have difficulty connecting the dots. It's hard for so many to think about cause and effect. They'll buy the tool even if screws them hard and fast with no refund in sight.
• Note: Obama may not have used his political capital wisely during the first term, but the guy does have a heart and head that are connected and function fairly well. Officially, Romney's Marvel Comic name is: the Jeckler.

If 48% of Americans aren't paying Federal tax (that's only one tax Americans pay) then it is because they don't make enough money to do so - no matter how hard they work. Chump change in comparison to people like Romney who pay 14% on unearned millions of dollars a year, or 0% on money they hide off-shore.

Diamond60

It looks as if a lot of very successful people are backing Romney. In case you have been living under a rock we all know the rich have always ruled the world. The cool thing about America is you can become rich by working hard. That's assuming the government doesn't steal (please note Chuck, it's steal not steel) their hard earned money. The richest 10% pay the lion's share of taxes, why aren't you screaming at the 48% of Americans who pay no federal taxes? They are the ones dragging the rest of us down. Obama is a failure and he only won because of the anti-Bush sentiment. I think any Democrat would have won in 2008.

So many of you talk about the Republicans plotting against Obama and their vow to make him a one term president. The losing party always wants their party to win back the White House. The way some of you talk the Republicans should have kissed Obama's butt when he won. Don't you think the Democrats will plot against Romney when he wins?

Paid protesters for a photo op.

Obama won by 367 electoral votes and more than 10 million of the popular vote. And the biggest reason he won by so many is because of that !@##@@ palin.

Everything democrats do now a days is a photo op for you guys. Call it whatever you want to call it. Its working and people don't like Romney one bit and you Republicans know it.

Some posters here seem heck-bent on chasing the poor, elderly and disabled for tax revenue. I think it makes much more sense to ask the super rich to share the same tax burden we face.

Although that seems like common sense to many, the matter has been overcomplicated by those who intend to keep the status quo. Tax fairness seems like the easy part to me. The real question is where to cut expenses. This is where the real fight should lie.

Diamond60

The cool thing about America is you can become rich by working hard.

Or you can inherit your money from your rich daddy like the Koch brothers did. That's cool, too.

But Obama's $45000 a plate dinners are ok huh! And George Soros 16 trips to the white house is ok. Absolutely desparation of the Democrats to start sending protesters so early. What a bunch of hypocrites, as usual.

Ironic that the democratic 529 group, MoveOn funds the protests against the republican 529 group!

Lets cut the crap. Now here a easy question for all you REAL AMERICAN REFUBS tell me why its OK for 45,000 to 50,000 to die in this country each year. Tell me why its GOOD for this country to send our jobs over seas and get tax breaks for doing it? And which one of you refubs will walk into the hospital in your town, find the kids that will be there getting government paid for cancer treatment, and pull the plug when Romney repeals their health care? And will you have the conviction of your beliefs to tell the parents "He/she Has to die because I won't pay for his/her health care, so get a job or you can die too!"

Thats what you keep spouting here, DIE YOU WORKING POOR! Your not as American as I am, Your not as Patriotic as I am, Your Genetics aren't as pure as mine are, or the stupidest one GOD LIKES ME BETTER!

AH, those liberals. Such a classy bunch.

Claude...How about you ask Obama that same whose Jobs Czar sent thousands of GE jobs overseas.

And, newsflash we've all been paying for the healthcare of the indigent all along. And now we get to pay for another 800,000 illegal immigrants care too. All with or without Obama's MANDATE.

Pulling the plug on children? You ARE sick..in the head. You libs just looove hyperbole and manufacturing scary scenarios. I wonder if you have a problem with "pulling the plug" on 59 MILLION babies

jrae-1215199

If 48% of Americans aren't paying Federal tax (that's only one tax Americans pay) then it is because they don't make enough money to do so - no matter how hard they work. Chump change in comparison to people like Romney who pay 14% on unearned millions of dollars a year, or 0% on money they hide off-shore

Here's something to chew on. Forbes has come out with the list wealthiest politicians. 60% of them are Democrats. You think they don't have tax shelters? Think again. Romney donates huge amounts of money to charities and causes, not counting what he gives to his church. Do you think it's wrong for him to keep some of HIS money for HIS family? He took NO salary as Gov. of Mass. and NO salary for his work for heading the Olympic Committee. He also donated his inheritance from his father. Yeah..real shady, greedy guy, isn't he? Any money he has now he EARNED, and he risked his OWN money in investments. Unlike Obama who risks OUR money on already dead in the water Solyndra. But what are friends for? You scratch my back, and I'll see to that taxpayers scratch yours.

lol @ 48% of Americans don't pay taxes.... that is how you spot a Fox news lemming... they heard the talking point on Fox... didn't read the study done by Fox's Heritage foundation.... because if they did they would of noticed that little foot note that 87% of that 48% are retired elderly and children..... So yes continue complaining about them not paying taxes that makes perfect since when comparing them to the most wealthy and corporations.

Please return to Fox News for your most recent "ignore the details" facts.

Why weren't these protestors out in front of Clooney's house when he was having 40K per plate fund raisers?

Because George Clooney isnt trying to.... make your pay equivelant to a Chinese peasant , or give you fewer benfits, or automate you or outsordce your job, poison your food and toys, or poison the planet or reclassify the Amrdican worker as a cost drag on profits, or perpetuate corporate greed That employees are costs to be eliminated, automated or outsopurced.

The Koch brothers need the Guillotine. Corporate Pigs bent on buying Ameica and then selling its soul to the new Jesus of Corporate 'citizens'

Whch 'his' money are we talking about? The prots on the backs of the middle class workers he outsorced? Or the money he has in Bermuda and Cayman Islands that is helping pay less taxes than we in the middle class? Or is that America just isnt good enough for Romney? to bank the money for use in loaing American small business' capital?

By the way, jut where are Romney's SOLUTIONS? Perhaps they are offshore like HIS money and OUR Jobs

Lane Gypsy

Show me the facts of where Romney and bain outdsourced jobs overseas, has bank accounts in Bermuda or the Cayman Islands.

I will help you out- Unlike you Lane, I have done extensive research and can tell you that there is no outsourcing or private offshore accounts.

There was a business account in Switzerland for Romneys consulting fees when Bain was helping struggling European businesses.

All you are doing Lane is posting lies directly from Obama and Biden

Wrong John. Romney makes $57,000 a day from his investments so I really don't think he has ever had one single day concerned and bothered about how the middle class and working public is doing. Romney has shipped jobs overseas and he is on video saying that President Obama does not know how to ship jobs overseas. Romney has bankrupted companies while making huge profits for himself and his shareholders. He and his wife have stashed billions of dollars in Bermuda, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Ireland and the Cayman Islands. None of these Blind Trusts have been disclosed in Romney's tax returns.

Gosh...the "Amazing Vicki" she knows all, sees all...Since the Dems. are screaming for Romney to release his tax returns...how do you know WHAT is or isn't disclosed on them? Where did you get your $57,000.00 a day figure? Do you have a crystal ball...better check it, I think it's cracked. FYI, Romney and his company have RESCUED companies, restructured them and many are now thriving, expanding, and creating thousands of jobs. Ever hear of Burger King, Staples, and scores of other familiar named companies and enterprises? Had Romney et al not rescued and restructured them, you would NOT have heard of those companies...they wouldn't have succeeded or gown. Or existed...

My vote is with VICKY. Go Girl....

Riddle me this Batman: MSNBC admitted that "Gay money has replaced Wall street money" as referring to donations to President Obama. How can Gays that make up less than 2% of the nation keep pace or out give corporations?.... I guess we know who is really in the top 1%

Romney 2012

lol @ 48% of Americans don't pay taxes.... that is how you spot a Fox news lemming... they heard the talking point on Fox... didn't read the study done by Fox's Heritage foundation.... because if they did they would of noticed that little foot note that 87% of that 48% are retired elderly and children..... So yes continue complaining about them not paying taxes that makes perfect since when comparing them to the most wealthy and corporations.

Please return to Fox News for your most recent "ignore the details" facts.

Your post is 100% not accurate. Yes, some are elderly but it does NOT include children. It includes tax credits TO PARENTS who have children. It is NOT my problem that someone opted to have children. Poor planning does not equate to a tax break, if you cannot afford kids, then don't have them.

Additionally, the % of people who don't pay Federal Income taxes are ONLY on tax-filing Americans which would dictate does NOT include children. The number also is not from Fox news, it is from a non-partisan group that has been reporting it for decades.

In ending, I don't care if you make $1000/year, you should pay a minimum FED tax even if it is 1%....life is not free and I'm tired of paying $30k/year in FED Income taxes to support people who clearly should pay something, ANYTHING.

drc...

Read an article this week about the state of New York trying to come up with a system where recipients would not be able to use food stamp money to purchase alcohol or tobacco products. It's due to the method of payment being 'debit' cards.

Thought you'd be pleased to know where some of your tax dollars are going !

In ending, I don't care if you make $1000/year, you should pay a minimum FED tax even if it is 1%....life is not free and I'm tired of paying $30k/year in FED Income taxes to support people who clearly should pay something, ANYTHING.

And I am tired of paying $192K/year in FED Income taxes to support YOU. You think your paltry little $30K is worth anything?

See? It's not difficult to be an @!$%#.

Byron...

Be careful or the occupiers will be camping in your front yard.

Actually the majority who do not owe federal taxes includes the elderly, the disabled, students, and some whose income is so low that they do not owe taxes. See here: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3505

Hey Old Fat Guy do your own homework. You post it

Robert

if you haven't got anything intelligent to say why are you here making a fool of yourself?

Because ignorance is bliss for some people.

SPIDER: Who the hell are you kidding pal?? The Koch Brothers made there money the old fashioned way, they INHERITED it from there father who was a charter member of the John Birch Society. You know, the insane Commie hunters who accused Dwight Eishenhower of all people of being a Communist.

There are those who make tons of money and use it as a force for good. Bill Gates being an example. These bastards are simply greedy, blood sucking monsters who are quite literally trying to buy our government. You celebrate wealth for wealth's sake. I don't. What these people are doing is blind greed, pure and simple. If you want to worship at this alter, that's your perogative but thinking people choose to do otherwise.

Hey Spider hasn't anyone strpprd on you yet

Do you have a Swiss bank account?
Do you have an offshore bank account? As far as I know, it's pretty unusual for any American to have one -- especially someone who wants to be president of the United States.

Witchking

The Koch's are actually one of the big outfits who help industries comply with EPA Pollution Regulations, through consulting the design, manufacturing some anti-polution equipment.

To Spider and others like him. People like Romney and Koch's Steel from working people. Koch industry pollute the air and land and water, they make billions and leave the mess to be cleaned up by the tax payers. That is always the way, The ones that do all the taking leave the mess for the taxpayers. Romney bought company's and stole the retirement fund, and walked away leaving guess who with the bill, that's right, us the taxpayers. These people would starve to death if they weren't allow to steel there fortunes. None of these people know how to make a honest dollar. Koch's bribe people like Scoot Walker and in return for their donations, get control of WI power plants, And all the wood they want for free for there paper company's. They can contaminate the land, Water and Air, while making billions and paying no taxes. They call it capitalism. I call it steeling.

Now post a comparison of Obama's supporters please

Sorry, that would take far too long. Romney gets multi-million dollar donations frrom a few hundred billionaires, while Obama has been getting multi-hundred dollar donations from millions of working class people (you know, those people that actually work hard for a living, the ones the Republicans want to strip minimum wage and union representation from).

Ozzie boy...you mean soros? He is trying to demolish the wealth in this country to a simple few. Romeny earned his own money. Took nothing from his father and when he did inherit money he gave it to charity.

MARY: Keep dreaming. Romney was BORN TO WEALTH. His father was not only a 2 time Governor but the head of American Motors and other companies. Willard went to the finest schools and had every advantage in th book. Yes, he did go out and make ever more money on his own. Unlike you, I don't think that warrants a medal for him.

The Right is always calling Obama an "elitist" which is ludicrous. I can think of few others who are more elitist than Romney and he proves it every time he opens his mouth. "I have friends who own Nascar teams" "I'll bet you ten thousand dollars", mocking a group of fans at a Nascar race for wearing plastic ponchos "hey I'll be you folks really sprang for the big bucks on those ponchos" and a thousand more.

Kannin -- Perhaps it's time put a law in place that says anyone donating to a campaign can never, ever be allowed to do business with the government. Then there will be no idiots screaming about the appearance of cronyism. Emphasis on appearance and idiots.

BTW -- Romney got in rich part by taking advantage of a loophole that allowed him to pay only 15% taxes on all his income.

Correction:

Romney got rich in part by taking advantage of a loophole that allowed him to pay taxes at a rate of 15%. The same tax favoritism that hedge fund managers enjoy.

@Dont_carry_it_all "Romney got rich in part by taking advantage of a loophole that allowed him to pay taxes at a rate of 15%"

According to IRS.gov "Capital gains and deductible capital losses are reported on Form 1040, Schedule D (PDF). If you have a net capital gain, that gain may be taxed at a lower tax rate than your ordinary income tax rates. The term "net capital gain" means the amount by which your net long-term capital gain for the year is more than the sum of your net short-term capital loss and any long-term capital loss carried over from the previous year. Generally, net capital gain is taxed at rates no higher than 15%"

That is hardly a "loophole"

There's nothing wrong with success, I applaud it in most cases. It's about how you get there that matters. If your path to success includes harming other people, like selling defective or tainted products, selling harmful products, slashing companies apart leaving people jobless and without pensions they were promised, then I have no respect for you. Mitt Romney falls into the last category, and thus, is a man without honor.

Thank goodness Romney is so far behind on the electoral map and in swing state polls. He's poisonous to our country. The good news is we will never know how much worse he'd make things because he'll never be president.

Go read up Kannin, Romney uses the carried interest loophole.

Private investment companies, organized as hedge funds or private equity firms, have recently grown into major economic forces in the U.S. economy. They mobilize capital, and often leverage it with borrowed funds, in order to accumulate a tremendous amount of assets under their management. These investments include leveraged buyouts; market-neutral investment strategies in publicly traded stocks and bonds, energy, and other commodities; various arbitrage strategies; as well as many lesser known and some entirely unreported transactions. Hedge funds are big players in the large corporate take-over activity that reached $3.6 trillion in 2006¸ and they are also responsible for a significant share of trading volume on the major stock exchanges and in some over-the-counter derivatives markets.

These private pools of capital are unregulated, or exempt from Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) regulation, under both the Investment Advisors Act and the Investment Company Act. While these exemptions were once justified on the grounds that such investment firms were small, closely held, and did not raise their capital in public capital markets, the exemptions are no longer consistent with today’s reality. Today these firms are huge, have a wide number and range of investors, and the Internet has blurred the distinction between public and private marketing.

In addition to being unregulated, these financial institutions also reap substantial benefits from special tax provisions that, like the regulatory framework, are no longer appropriate. The professional fund managers of these hedge funds and private equity firms are allowed to treat a substantial portion of their compensation as capital gains, meaning they are most likely taxed at 15% rather than the 35% rate that applies to ordinary income such as wages and salary. Such an exemption, however, makes little sense: in economic terms, the fund managers (also known as investment advisors) perform a professional service, much like lawyers or doctors, and receive remuneration for their labor.

These investment advisors and hedge fund managers can take advantage of this tax structure because they are often compensated through a scheme that, in part, pays them according to the returns on the fund. The industry standard for hedge fund managers is “two and twenty,” which is shorthand for an “overhead” fee of 2% of capital under management plus carried interest (often called a “carry”) of 20% of the returns on the fund. Thus a $100 million fund earning 20% would pay its fund manager $2 million for overhead and $4 million in carry. The carry portion of their compensation is treated under the tax code as capital gains for the fund manager and is taxable at the much lower capital gains tax rate of 15%.

This policy memo focuses on this special tax break, explaining why it is not economically sound and offering reasonable estimates of what it costs the U.S. Treasury and ultimately other tax payers in terms of lost tax revenue......

Congress has the opportunity to correct a bad economic policy and free up resources to fund better priorities. This analysis points to the need to update the nation’s tax laws dealing with private pools of capital. The current law is generating inefficiencies and great inequality by granting tax breaks to individuals who do not need and do not deserve such favors. The nation has greater and more deserving priorities. If the amount of tax revenue lost to private equity firm managers is equivalent to that lost with hedge funds, then the combined amount would be $12.6 billion. This forgone revenue stream could, for example, fully fund the five-year, $35 billion expansion of SCHIP, the public health insurance program for low-income children.

http://www.epi.org/publication/pm120/

BTW --

Good old Mittens is coming to let us know how much he really cares about us lazy, overpaid average citizens.

He has our welfare at heart and this corporate raider turned politician wants you to vote for him. He wants us to know that it's nothing personal, we're just leeches on the body of society and we have to accept corporate rule.

Witchking-

I'm not sure about the other contributors to Romney, but I work for Marriott International and know that the unfounded statement about Richard and Bill Marriott wanting foreign labor at slave wages is a disgusting lie. Those 2 men take great effort to ensure that the employees are not only paid very well, but are also taken care of both inside and outside of their place of employment. I have worked in the food and beverage industry for over 20 years and have never worked for a better company that is more caring about their employees.

In many of the hotels, the associates are fully paid benefits for themselves, their spouse or partner (yes, they are completely accepting of gay marriage) and up to 2 children. There is profit sharing accross the board for employees and their benefits packages are among the elite in the food and beverage industry.

Please stop with this partisan garbage, both sides!! It is disingenuous and dispicable at best. Not only do many people on the vine parrot information of which you know nothing about, you scream it all over these boards as if it is fact. We all need to start being part of the solution and stop contributing to the problem.

chef lackey, I will not be staying at the Marriott going forward and will warn everyone I can stay away.

Hey Witchking, plagarizing from Rolling Stone magazine is grounds for getting banned here at Newsvine.

You really shoiuld cite your source.

Just ask Cynthia, she seems awfully worried about the COH again.

Do your homework? What a joke.

You get an "F" WitchKing.

And it looks like YOU are one of them elliot-3020456. NO NEED TO KEEP SPAMMING YOUR LAME CRAP!

Witch-King. I fully support your right to make your statements. My concern is that so many uninformed people will fall for your ignorant statements. I for one am tired of the ignorant statement that the Deep Sea Horizon incident was the "worst environmental disaster in US history." How about a history lesson. Look up the Dust Bowl and the disasterous effect it had on thousands of people, the crop lands of the mid-west, and the economy. It far exceeds that of the Deep Sea Horizon incident.

Witchking. I fully support your right to make your statements. The concern I have is that so many uninformed people will fall for your ignorant statements. I for one am tired of the statement that the Deep Sea Horizon incident was the "worst environmental disaster in US history." Even our president has made that statement. How about studing some history. The Dust Bowl disaster of the early 20th century effected thousands of families, thousands of acres of farmland, and the nation's economy for years. This was a far worse disaster than the Deep Sea Horizon.

Witchking. I fully support your right to post your statements. My concern is that so many uninformed people will fall for and believe your ignorant statements. I for one am tire of hearing that the Deep Sea Horizon incident was the "worst environmental disaster in US history." Even the president has made this statement. How about studying some US history. The Dust Bowl of the early 19th century had a disasterous effect on thousands of people, thousands of acres of farmland, and the US economy for years. This was a far worse disaster than the politically charged Deep Sea Horizon incident.

Sorry about the dupliate posts. I kept getting an error when I tried to post, but evidently the posts went through anyway.

CM

Sorry, that would take far too long. Romney gets multi-million dollar donations frrom a few hundred billionaires, while Obama has been getting multi-hundred dollar donations from millions of working class people (you know, those people that actually work hard for a living, the ones the Republicans want to strip minimum wage and union representation from).

ROGLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you believe that %(*#$_$, then I have some beach front property to sell you.

I agree, another unintelligent, uninformed, ignorant idiot posting nonsense about getting donations from working class -- seem to conveniently "forget" about the HUGE Hollywood elite fundraisers, along with Hedge Fund managers fundraisers, and the unions to name a few. CM needs to try to do his/her own research instead of parroting what the lame stream media feed.

If you go here: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php , you can look at each candidate and the percentage of their funds that come from large or small donations. 43% of Obama's donations came in the form of small donations, 17% of Romney's did.

Read it qnd weep, dittoheads. That is if you still CAN read after having your brains fried by the Faux News and Limbaughs of the world.

60 people paid to show up on the beach and hold signs is news?

Witch...

I'm sure that Mr. Obama's big contributors are all wonderful people with the purest of intentions.

ChefEric13

I'm not sure about the other contributors to Romney, but I work for Marriott International and know that the unfounded statement about Richard and Bill Marriott wanting foreign labor at slave wages is a disgusting lie. Those 2 men take great effort to ensure that the employees are not only paid very well, but are also taken care of both inside and outside of their place of employment. I have worked in the food and beverage industry for over 20 years and have never worked for a better company that is more caring about their employees.

I have often stayed at Marriott's and it is, in fact, my preferred chain, because it seems that the employees are all happy at their jobs, unlike many of the other so-called 'elite' chains. Staying at a place where people hate their jobs makes for an unpleasant environment, not matter how plush the surroundings. So Mr Marriott is a decent man. I will happily agree to that, as it certainly agrees with my own experience. But perhaps you need to pay attention to what some of Governor Romney's other campaign contributors think of you:

One of Mitt Romney's donors, who would not disclose her name said, "I don't think the common person is getting it. Nobody understands how Obama is hurting them. We've got the message. But my college kid, the baby sitters, the nails ladies everybody who's got the right to vote, don't understand what's going on. I just think if you are lower income - one, you are not as educated, two, they don't understand how it works, they don't understand how the system works, they don't understand the impact."

More here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#48128657

thief??? please explain how Romney is a thief. Please be very specific

Hey Robert

Do you have a Swiss bank account?
Do you have an offshore bank account? As far as I know, it's pretty unusual for any American to have one -- especially someone who wants to be president of the United States.

itchking? ...are you going to tell us how Romney is a thief?? And last time I checked - its not illegal to have a swiss bank account

Information source on the US/Cayman Islands tax treaty: w.lowtax.net/lowtax/html/jca2tax.html

Long story short, in order for the US to acquire this information from the Cayman Islands it must directly accuse Gov. Romney of criminal tax evasion or get his permission to view his records.

Somehow I don't think either is going to happen right now. If he is accused then he will claim it's all a political plot by President Obama and the Democrats. If he is asked, all he has to do is say "no."

He has been asked and hasnt obstructed anything ..like say birth certificates or college transcripts. Romney has so far disclosed EVERYTHING legally required of him

You apologists for Mitt Romney will excuse anything he does. But wait - suppose for a moment it was revealed that President Barack Hussein Obama was stashing away large sums of his personal wealth in foreign bank accounts.

Again, just imagine for a moment if this was the case.

Would you Republicans be just as dismissive?

We all know the answer, don't we.

PC/NOT - " Romney has so far disclosed EVERYTHING legally required of him" . . .

As has President Obama and then some, many times.

really? your not refering to that scrap of toilet paper that indicates he was born in Connecticut? How about his college transcrips? seen any of those?

Ohhhhh...pc/snot delving into the conspiracy theories again...some things never change.

Pc you are so full of Sh t, Your eyes are brown. The Truth is that it don't matter what The President shows, People like you will never be satisfied. It just kills you and the Koch brothers to see a black man and his family living in there White house. Koch's old man tried this same thing with JFK, The Old man had a hand in killing JFK most likely. I wounder if Koch's will have John Roberts killed for upholding the Health care law? Most Americans don't vote because we all know that elections are bought by the rich. That is why they don't want all Americans to get an education. They can't control educated people.

Robert n23456, you re-regged again??! How's that little Tea Toy Party of yours in Tennessee doing?Pack those bags for Costa Rico yet? tic, toc, tic, toc...Bon Voyage! ;-)

Hey Cyn...how's it going, dollface?

PC/NOT,

Well, at least you're admitting that you're a racist.

really ? in what way have I done that? oh right - to liberal bigots anyone who doesnt like obama is a racist

If only the only thing there was to hate about obama is that hes a negro

You're saying that being a "negro" is something to hate. I'd call that racist.

Willard, SHOW US THE MONEY!!! Why are you hiding your tax returns, it will truly show how UN- american you are and your sleazy ass should be in prison. Me thinks. Willard, you are hiding things. The truth will come out, people are digging for the goods on you!! just a matter of time.

Id bet youd call anything racist

Nope, mostly just people who say things like;

God - If only the only thing there was to hate about obama is that hes a negro

The Koch brothers employ almost 70,000 people.

HOW MANY DO YOU AND YOUR BROTHER EMPLOY?

PC/NOT,

"there's upchuck with that old liberal bigot standby - the race card"

The sad truth is that there are a majority of people out there, republicans AND democrats that won't vote for Obama simply because he looks "Black". Me personally, I believe that because he is interracial is the main reason.

On a side note, In my opinion, Because he IS who he is, that's why he has been the most disrespected President in history not to mention it would be "un-American" (given our history of racism)to have a man of color not ONLY institute the passage of Health Care reform for the Country(something no president could do in 50 years of attempting) BUT possibility be one of the most successful presidents of our time......AGAIN just my opinion.

I do wonder why Willard is refusing to release prior year tax returns. All prior Presidential candidates have done so to demonstrate that they have nothing to hide.

Willard has something to hide.

Hey PC/not- 1. How many people do you know with numerous off-shore bank accounts-why Mitt has them is obvious to me, even if he refuses to release his tax forms.

2. How many people do you know who took a 77,000 dollar business expense for a dressage horse? Unless he's riding that bad boy to work, in my opinion, that's no business expense.

3. Romney's company ( Bain Capitol) has been indentified as a "Pioneer" in outsoucing American jobs to foreign countries, like China and India. ( Romney's campaign called"foul" and said he wasn't outsourcing, but "off-shoring", just like his money,no?).

I am truly amazed when I read about conservatives defending this guy. He's completely out of touch with the American people. The man is arrogant,a liar, and wouldn't know how to take a stand on something if his life depended on it. I'm sure there are some intelligent conservatives out there; I just haven't heard any.

"How about his college transcrips?"

Not a requirement for running for president. Period. When they become required, then you can complain if they're not released. And the word is "transcripts" just so you know.

commonsense, ok..lets keep playing the race card..if you dont vote for romney then your a racist..sounds just as pathetic as so many here who play that game about not voting for the president

Bill - It's a sad truth. One that I can attest to as I've heard many say it from their own mouth and were quite frankly happy and proud to say it so it's not a "game", it's reality.

On a side note I, like you(I hope) would love to live in a world where race wasn't an issue but when you look at the jobless rate in this country, It's kinda hard not to scratch your head and wonder.

Witching does the name George soros mean anything to you? One of the richest communists in the world who backs Obama.

Do you realize how the very phrase 'richest communist' is an oxymoron?

George Soros is a decent man who has seen fascism take hold once. Is it any wonder that he's doing his best to make sure it doesn't happen again?

so - you have no problem with liberal elitist obamas association with say...soros? Or how about buffet or the hollywood elite? Romneys out of touch? please - Romenys been out in the real world and has been very sucessful. We have had a long and PAINFUL look at how a elitist liberal egg head CANT handle the job of POTUS

Hey PC/NOT

Romney has been in the real world

Let me sum up how Romney economics works:

Romney and his partners bought companies across the United States, often loading them up with debt in the process.

Too often, they slashed pensions, benefits, and jobs, while paying themselves and their shareholders straight from the debt they'd accumulated.

Because of that debt, several of these businesses went bankrupt, leaving workers without jobs, without pensions, and without health care -- all while Romney and his partners walked away with millions.

Everyone understands that businesses rise and fall -- and sometimes fail -- and no one is challenging Romney's right to run his business as he saw fit or questioning private equity as a whole.

But when a handful of people make a fortune by putting thousands out of work and bankrupting once-healthy businesses, it's legitimate to question whether those are the values America needs in a president -- and whether those are the values that will create an economy built to last, with a strong, secure middle class.

On the campaign trail, Mitt Romney claims that what he and his partners did is the very best of what capitalism can be. He claims to know how to create jobs based on that experience, but even his former partners admitted their business was never about creating jobs -- it was about creating wealth for investors.

Just listen to the workers of GST Steel: Mitt Romney came in, ravaged it with debt, and it ended up filing for bankruptcy. 750 workers lost their jobs and health care, and Romney's managers left their pension fund $44 million short. The 113-year-old steel mill closed its doors, and Romney's company made a 150% profit on their initial investment.

As RomneyEconomics.com shows, stories like that happened time and time again. That approach, where a few people do very well no matter what the cost to others, is the last thing we need in a president.

Romney's economics would be a disaster for the middle class. We can't afford an economy where even when the company fails, the financial wizards walk away with millions, while the workers who have invested years growing the company are left holding the bag. That won't make our economy -- or our country -- stronger.

Tick tock, Robert...tick tock...

Mitt Romney talks a lot about his time as a corporate buyout specialist, but you know what we don't hear very much about?

His experience as governor of Massachusetts.

That may be because he made promises to the people of his state during his '02 campaign that sound an awful lot like the ones he's making to the country today -- and he failed to deliver on them.

Just like now, he claimed his success in the private sector meant he'd be able to create jobs, cut taxes, and bring down the debt. He did the opposite.

Even as the rest of the country was enjoying a brightening economy, during Romney's term, Massachusetts plummeted to 47th out of 50 states in job creation; manufacturing jobs declined at twice the national average; and for the first time since 1995, its unemployment rate was above the national average.

Long-term debt ballooned by more than $2.6 billion -- leaving the people of Massachusetts with the highest per capita debt of any state in the nation. State spending increased every single year, and Romney raised taxes and fees by $750 million per year -- leading to a higher state and local tax burden of $1,200 for every Bay Stater. Over his term, fees at public colleges skyrocketed by 63 percent, and during his first year, K-12 schools saw the second-largest percentage cuts, per student, in the nation.

All that in just four years.

Mitt Romney promised more jobs, less debt, and smaller government for Massachusetts based solely on his experience as a corporate buyout specialist. Turns out that being good at maximizing profits for yourself and your investors, but leaving companies bankrupt and workers without jobs, doesn't exactly prepare you to lead a state -- or a country.

Yet Romney's out there making the same empty promises all over again. And we've got to make sure no one buys it this time.

The bottom line? Romney Economics didn't work for Massachusetts then, and it won't work for America now.

Who looks lke a boob now I'll tell ya who Mitt Romney

Witchking...

Bain Capital only buys failing companies and has a 79% success rate in saving them.

Want to compare this to Obama's failed leadership of shovel ready jobs, Solindra, or maybe consider how many people lost their job at family car dealerships when Obama took them over?

Obama/Biden FAILED LEADERSHIP and BROKEN PROMISES

Witchking

Of the 8 Companies the left has targeted as examples of Romney Greed, Two are listed under both names, Of those listed. Actually all of them still exist in some form including Damon! That's right.
Only one actually totally failed, and GS Steel. Two years after the Georgia Plant was closed a company bought the plant and now is profitable operating.

all companies, except Dade-Behring were failing or failed.

Bain may put the majority of the money into a company, but typically works to owns less than
20% of on-going investments. This is not enough to control a company. Federal Laws make it that 20% share holders are entitled to sit on the board of a company. What Bain does occasionally do is act as a paid consultant to assist when asked.

Bankruptcy is pretty common in businesses when things don't go as planned. Is it bankruptcy ideal? No, but sometimes the way things are structured makes bankruptcy the only way to make a successful major
change.

Romney left Bain in 1999 to run the Salt Lake Olympics (bankrupt) and turned it into a huge profitable success. He returned to Bain, but left again in early 2001 to run for Governor of Massachusetts. Anything that happened after he left especially 1 year after he left is probably not his responsibility.

Here's the analysis on the list of targeted Companies, what they do, and what really happened.

a) AMPAD - Profit: $102 million - Bankrupt: 2002.

– a business and professional paper supply company. Ampad was purchased and dumped by Mead inc. Ampad under Bain had grown to over half of the business supply through a series of acquisitions -
bigger than Mead who had sold them. To make the aquisitions a large amount of debt was accumulated. By 2000 the computers replaced much of the need for such materials. With the market for these items shrinking, sales dropped and still bearing costs of the acquisitions forced them to declare bankruptcy
to re-organize and downsize. Is it really a failure? NO. Bankruptcy for purposes of re-organization saved the company and made it profitable again. Ampad though the years has never been a big profit maker since 2000 because of the continuing advances of electronic media. The unimpressive performance has made Ampad bought by 3 different companies in the last 10 years.

b. DDI CORP - Profits: $36 million - Bankrupt: 2003.

Circuit board manufacturer. Bain cut payroll to make the company profitable, but also purchased other companies as it grew (that is what the “loading up with debt” was all about). Since the
Bankruptcy organization DDI has stayed profitable and recently was bought by another Circuit
board maker to “Balance” their Chinese Production.

c. DAMON CORP - Profits: $1.5 million - Bankrupt: 2009.

Medical Testing Corporation – found to be engaging in Medicare Fraud with the Federal Government. Sorry, Romney was no longer with Bain by 2001. The charges came in later years and No Charges were ever pursued with Bain. The reason Bain was not charged is because Bain limits their involvement to a investor that is not involve in the day to day operation. Bain sold the company to another company who closed Damon corps main facility.

d. DADE BEHRING. Profits: $365 million - Bankrupt: 2002.

Medical Test Equipment manufacturer and more. Created in 1997 by Bain as part
of a $440 Million deal merging Dade International and Behring Diagnostics. At the time they had 6400 employees. There was a attempt to expand to Puerto Rico with government funds, but the expansion may have been the final blow to lead them file for chapter 11 Bankruptcy in 2002. But by 2006 Dade Behring
(with BAIN on board) still with over 6000 employees had grown to be the #1 international manufacturer of Medical Testing Equipment before being bought by a German company called Siemens.

e. STAGE STORES. Profits: $100 million - Bankrupt: 2000.

Once again, the simplicity hides the whole Truth. Stage Stores was formed out of two failing retail chains. Bain backed it with a load of money, put a management team together, then worked itself to owning only 15% by selling stock. The packaging was great so Stage Stores started of with a big bang and expanded rapidly. The management team, while still profitable, over expanded and was caught in a retail collapse in 2001 and filed Bankruptcy along with it’s 3 largest competitors. Stage Stores closed nearly 1/3 of it’s stores laying off people, but survived to begin growing again. Stage Stores became so profitable, that it has since reopened many stores it had closed by purchasing a competitor who had bought a large number Stage Stores that had to previously abandoned.

f. GS INDUSTRIES. Profits: $65 million - Bankrupt: 2001.

Better known as GS Steel and World Wide Grinding.

One of the few actual total failures by Bain. Bain tried to do everything right. They came in streamlined the company and made a large profit quickly. Steel began to suffer from stiff foreign competition with more
modern and efficient equipment. So the profits didn’t last. Bain re-invested in modernization with Federal help, but the profits still were not returning as before. They bought the Georgia Steel Company to obtain
seasoned management and the ability to cut costs by consolidating administrative, sales and management staffs. One year after acquisition, the manager quit and left with his golden parachute in early 2000. Bain tried to find management who understood the steel business but failed to find anyone and in 2 years GS had run up a $553 Million dollar debt and GS was closed by Romney’s successor. Two years later, the Georgia plant was purchased by a new investor an is operating profitably today.

g. DETAILS. Profits: $93 million - Bankruptcy: 2003.

I had to scratch to find this one a bit. No real verifiable facts under this name other than Bain expanded “Details” by buying a Colorado based circuit board maker to in 1997. Then I found that Details was another name for Details Inc, and Dynamic Details Incorporated also known as DDI. Whoever your sources
are don’t really care about all the facts, just the ones that they can use to make someone look bad. See DDI above please.

h. WORD WIDE GRINDING. Profits $16.5 million - Bankrupt: 2001.

Ditto for this one too. World Wide Grinding was the Kansas City
Steel company and the Kansas City that was merged into GS Steel. At the Time of
merger, WWG was still profitable, but headed to read ink.

guess you missed out on all the companies Romney saved, ever heard of Staples? Dunkin donuts?, maybe Raynolds? or Fairchild / Midland? Between just the few Ive named - saved Tens of thousands of jobs.

So you can list a few companies that actually survived the capital-sucking depredation of Bain? All of those were in business before being "Bained", somehow they survived, then managed a comeback after being spun off from Bain. Not really "creating jobs", more like failing to destroy jobs in a few cases.

Bain didn't do the type of venture capitalism that actually creates new corporations and new jobs. Bain did vulture capitalism that drains as much money as possible from undervalued companies that they bought control of, cheaply.

PC/NOT,

You attack someone for not knowing about Mitt's time at Bain (which if you look at the companies that were "saved" it was done by slashing jobs, closing stores and cutting benefits) and then you tell us that President Obama quadrupled the debt? Where'd you fish that lie from? If what you said were true, the national debt would be $44,000,000,000,000.

It's such a good feeling to know how bad you'll be feeling the night of November 6th. Romney has no viable path to 270 electoral votes and thus will fizzle into obscurity by the end of this year.

DB Akron,

I can personally attest to what Bain does to companies. I work in the mattress industry, and the company I worked for was Mattress Discounters. After Bain bought both them and Sealy (Bain was under Mitt's "leadership" at the time), Sealy went bankrupt once, Mattress Discounters twice. Bain closed half of our stores, cut 60% of our employees (many good friends of mine) and cut and run as soon as a private investor ponied up enough for what was left of the company. Bain did a lot of damage to the mattress industry, damage from which it is still recovering, but only recovering because Bain isn't part of it anymore.

CM says "So you can list a few companies that actually survived the capital-sucking depredation of Bain?"

"After examining 77 Bain investments made between 1984 and 1999, the [Wall Street Journal] found that 22% of the companies declared bankruptcy or closed within eight years of Bain's initial investment. And poor performance led Bain to forfeit its investment in another 8%.

But there were notable successes, including pizza chain Dominos and office supplier Staples.

Typical private equity funds only receive a fraction of the winnings from their successful deals. The rest goes to investors.

But the winnings were so large that Romney earned millions.

The Journal estimates that for those 77 deals, Bain generated about $2.5 billion on investments of $1.1 billion. Overall, Bain posted gains of 50% to 80% over the period."

Considering he started with failing companies, a 70% success rate is spectacular! Just as he led Bain to success, so too can he lead the US back to greatness. He clearly also has the toughness to cut failing programs and fire deadwood to accomplish it - Toughness and excellent judgment is what the US needs right now!

Kannin. From the article I cited in my other post to you.

They mobilize capital, and often leverage it with borrowed funds, in order to accumulate a tremendous amount of assets under their management.

They privatized profits, with little personal risk, and socialized all losses. The taxpayer picked up the tab.

"Mitt Romney never blames..."

This is laughable. All Willard has done for years now is blame Obama for everything. Things that were broken before he even took office are no exception. When will Willard Romney offer solutions? When will he talk about himself and his policies instead of just Obama and his policies?

"quasi socialist"

Could you explain exactly what you mean by quasi-socialist, how Obama fits the definition, and tell us exactly which policies of Obama's have moved the US toward socialism? Thanks.

upset-1557697

"Mitt Romney never blames..."

This is laughable. All Willard has done for years now is blame Obama for everything. Things that were broken before he even took office are no exception. When will Willard Romney offer solutions? When will he talk about himself and his policies instead of just Obama and his policies?

#5.18

So how about giving us an example. Keep in mind that Obama has continuously blamed Bush for everything even things that were broken before he took office.

WHy doesnt Romney have any IDEAS or SOLUTIONS to our problems? WHy doesnt he have any policies to solve anything? SHouldnt he have a plan with 4 months to go?

Romney has no plan, no ideas and no solutions. He cant get votes if he doesnt have a plan. Notice that no one on here after asking the question dozens of times, can tell us what Romneys solutionbs are besides that table of contents he calls a 59 Points of light (or whatever he calls it)

Romney is toast

Considering he started with failing companies, a 70% success rate is spectacular! Just as he led Bain to success, so too can he lead the US back to greatness

So whats his policies,. then? Please tell us Romney's detailed plan to solve our problems?

Got Solutions?

We don't care we would vote for an igneous rock, to get the inept lying quasi socialist out of the white house.

Things Teabuggerers say when their candidate sucks and they doent have any Solutions (chuckle)

GYPSY>>>

Not hard to figure out, if it makes money GREAT if it loses money STOP.

Example U.S.Postal Service is not even close to break even. Step one recognize there are competitors today. Imagine if we still used Pony Express because of some out dated rule. Someday it has to stop if not making money. Stopping Saturday delivery will cut 20% of labor costs.

Get it done.

Yeah, and how will that help struggling businesses and individiuals who can't afford to pay UPS or FED Ex to send a Christmas card? Any civi8lized country needs a government postal service. esides which what do you think will happen to our unemployment rate when these job losses of postal workers laid off are added to the fired police, teachers and other local government employees who provide services to ordinary citizens bu who have lost their jobs so the ideologuees in the Repug Potty can smugly claim theyslashed government spending. You are a total fool if you think the answer is just "cuittingn 20 percent of labor costs" and everything with the Postal Service will be hunkey dorey. You don't deserve the right to vote.

You are in dire need of a liberacy and history comprehension test. The Postal Service is Not profitable bec ause it's revenues have been raided time and again by other federal government oiperatives: Thanks, politicians. I hope you are the first to sufer when you find out you aren't going to \get your mail or be able to send it off for a mere 45 cent stamp. This country is going backward every day the Repugs have any say so about our country and its policy. Get rid of all the Rethugs in 2012. Restore the House and Senate plus the White House to the Democrats or see America become even more unliveable for ordinary, hard working middle class Americans.

so - you have no problem with liberal elitist obamas association with say...soros? Or how about buffet or the hollywood elite? Romneys out of touch? please - Romenys been out in the real world and has been very sucessful. We have had a long and PAINFUL look at how a elitist liberal egg head CANT handle the job of POTUS

Ad hominem attacks are very unbecoming. So it's not ok for, say, Mr. Soros, but it's perfectly kosher for the Kochs and company? (And for the record, I'm not comfortable with such monetary influence PERIOD...no matter who's side).

Lil...

Prior to insulting others by stating they need a "liberacy comprehension test"...double check your spelling and sentence structure. However...should you not be claiming that others are simply "fools" who don't have "spell-check"...spelling & grammar errors are good to go.

no they could never think of something like this

Haha. very true. they just get violent.

ghost your right..look at PC

elvis!! glad your here!! Skipping dungeons and dragons tonight?

@Ghost - I say we never vote for another millionaire.

Becoming world-class at anything takes a huge amount of training, experience, and natural aptitude. Governing a country is no exception. It should have been apparent at the outset that Obama could no more be an adequate president than he could be a chess grandmaster, or a symphony conductor.

Choose an “average American” at random. Chances are that he or she would:

Cause an NFL team to lose if playing quarterback

Sound awful playing a violin solo with the Philadelphia Symphony

Be quickly checkmated by a Russian chess grandmaster

Hurt the country's economy and world position if chosen as President.

The point is that becoming world-class at anything takes a huge amount of training, experience, and natural aptitude. Governing a country is no exception. Romney has demonstrated that he is truly extraordinary at planning, organizing, negotiating, etc. Everything, in fact, that is required to be a world-class US President. If that makes his personality a little inaccessible to the common man, that is understandable … and acceptable.

nah i see you as the dragon

Romney has demonstrated that he is truly extraordinary at planning, organizing, negotiating, etc. Everything, in fact, that is required to be a world-class US President.

Romney has demonstrated an extraordinary talent at making himself rich by scheming, manipulating and taking advantage of loopholes in the law. His "success" in the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics consisted mainly of hiring a lobbying firm to get nearly a billion from the Federal Government. Not exactly a formula that will help the US Government.

More telling is Romney's "success" as Governor of Massachusetts. As Wichking posted:

Even as the rest of the country was enjoying a brightening economy, during Romney's term, Massachusetts plummeted to 47th out of 50 states in job creation; manufacturing jobs declined at twice the national average; and for the first time since 1995, its unemployment rate was above the national average.

Long-term debt ballooned by more than $2.6 billion -- leaving the people of Massachusetts with the highest per capita debt of any state in the nation. State spending increased every single year, and Romney raised taxes and fees by $750 million per year -- leading to a higher state and local tax burden of $1,200 for every Bay Stater. Over his term, fees at public colleges skyrocketed by 63 percent, and during his first year, K-12 schools saw the second-largest percentage cuts, per student, in the nation.

All that in just four years.

Political experience is different than business experience, and Romney's political experience is most unimpressive.

If that makes his personality a little inaccessible to the common man, that is understandable … and acceptable.

We might overlook that cold standoffish "out of touch" personality, if his record promised great things as President - but it doesn't. Romney's "inacessible" personality is a liability, not an asset, for a job that requires diplomacy and tact. Romney made a bad governor and would be a worse President.

do you have any protest for obamas association with soros or aires or buffet or the hollywood elite? no problem with them trying to buy the election? hypocrit!

PC Obama wants no tax breaks get it.he said tax me i want you to..thats a true American

PC: Clueless as ever. What you fail to recognize, thought it's staring you right in the face is that the "Hollywood Elite" along with George Soros and Warren Buffett are VOTING AGAINST THEIR OWN BEST INTERESTS. While the scumbags attending this little junket are INVESTING their money in the hopes of winning big returns.

What does the Hollywood crowd expect to receive from supporting Obama other than higher taxes??? And the same for Soro and Buffett. They are supporting the person they feel will do the most good for this country, not their own selfish, greedy interests. That's what REAL PATRIOTS do. They are not thinking about themselves every single god damn minute.

The monumental HYPOCRISY lies with simpletons like you. Time to get an education.

hahahaha

What the elites and the soros are doing is to make sure that no one else surpasses them. They could give a darn about "whats good for the people." They will NEVER see the likes of Obamanocare in their neck of the woods because they will have enough money to bypass everyone else on the waiting list for healthcare. Get it ..."simpleton."

ozzzy ozzy ozzzy - its getting to be a career trying to straighten you out. Dont you know , son - ANYONE voting for obama is voting against their best interest - especially those like you - even if you do get to stay on mom and dads insurance till your 26

Pc what do yall have for working Americans???right now??

@Mary-946660#12.5: Simpleton? Waaaaa, ha, ha ,ha ,ha, ha, ha, ha.

What the elites and the soros are doing is to make sure that no one else surpasses them. They could give a darn about "whats good for the people." They will NEVER see the likes of Obamanocare in their neck of the woods because they will have enough money to bypass everyone else on the waiting list for healthcare.

Now that's just being obtusely silly. Neither Soros nor Buffet are the richest, they've already been "surpassed", and an increase in tax rates wouldn't "make sure no one else surpasses them". Moreover, they will be just as subject to "Obamacare" as everyone else, though they certainly have no trouble paying for health insurance and certainly wouldn't need (or get) a subsidy to pay for it.

But there is a "method in their madness". Soros and Buffet are both investors, their wealth is tied directly to the success of the whole economy, so they're backing the one they think will boost the overall economy the most. Even with a higher tax rate, a booming economy will benefit their bottom line. In a similar way, the "Hollywood elite" know a booming economy means more leisure spending, thus more ticket sales and more income for them, in spite of higher tax rates.

The businesses of the Koch Brothers, on the other hand, do not depend on the whole economy growing, so they're favoring the one who will eliminate restrictions on their polluting industries thus cutting their compliance costs, cut their tax rates, give them fat Government contracts, squelch labor unions, maybe even cut minimum wages to boost their profitability. The failure of the rest of the economy does not concern them at all.

one protester per attendant at any of Mitts Ralleys. Seems fair...

@CM 6969;

FINALLY someone that sees the overall picture of what's going on. Would love to see what PC, Roberts and the rest of the Romney loving people would say to counter your statement. Took the words, Literally, out of my mouth.

CM-6969

Interesting fairy tale... but Soros and Buffet and all the other Obama supporters are in it for the special favors... wonder why GE paid no taxes?... Immelt is Obama's good buddy... wonder why unions are exempt from Obamacare?... they're Obama supporters... wonder why Billions were thrown away on failed green companies? Obama supporters run them... the crony capitalist corruption explains why anyone would be supporting Obama... typical Chicago politics.... and he profited BIG from Wall St in '08... doesn't that make him a "1%-er"? What a bunch of mindless drones you Liberals are....

Where are Romeny's (or GOP at-large) Solutions? I read his 59 point plan and its vague and offers no explanation of the 'how' Its an empty shell of a plan. NO specifics and NOTHING that can be scored.

All one can gleen from its table of contents level of detail is basically that Romney wants to double down on trickle down; Lower taxes for the Corporations and the wealthy, moving backwards on healthcare with NO SOLUTION to replace it and hoping it all magically trickle down to you.

FAIL

Romney has NO IDEAS, NO SOLUTIONS, NO POLICIES. He an empty suit. Sorry Mitt....no policies...no Vote!

WHere are the GOP Solutions? NO SOLUTIONS, NO VOTE

the crony capitalist corruption explains why anyone would be supporting Obama... typical Chicago politics.... and he profited BIG from Wall St in '08... doesn't that make him a "1%-er"? What a bunch of mindless drones you Liberals are....

And yet your candidate has NO actual SOLUTIONS to any of our problems. What a JOKE Romney and the entire GOP are.

We await the debates when Romney actually has to tell America how he is going to solve anything.

ROMNEY AND THE GOP HAVE NO SOLUTIONS, people. You cant vote for someone who throws rocks from the VIP box, handed to him by the Teabuggerers but has NO POLICIES to solve anything.

Romney has no IDEAS, SOLUTIONS or PLOCIES. Romney is an empty briefcase.

CT: Guess what pal??? "Brown Shirts" were Nazis as in Fascists as in RIGHT WING. You can't get anything right can you???

Oh its gonna be funny watching these racist knuckle-dragghing neanderthal Teabuggerers lose in November. They are going to LOSE IT and its going to be quite entertaining.

Keep up your wet-dream of a Romney victory, teabagger.

I think you ran him off

ok - ozzys a twit! hows that? You still here elvis?

And Obama's million dollar vacations are elitist? So there are 27 protesters in the picture, most look like they don't have a clue so I know they are true Democrats.

And Obama's million dollar vacations are elitist? So there are 27 protesters in the picture, most look like they don't have a clue so I know they are true Democrats.

So Sonny, what are Romney's solutions for the economy, exatly? . Surely as an informed voter, you know what Romney's plan for economic recovery is, right? What is it? Can you name them? Or are you just throwing rocks at the President again beacsue YOU dont have a clue either?

JENNIFER: How dare you!!! Yes, how dare you give Melba Toast a bad name like that.

Willardo is about as exciting as.................... well Willardo I guess. I have a sneaky suspicious that in fact Willard is nothing but a department store mannequin wired and modified to look like a human. The proof of this is that there is absolutely no blood coursing through his veins. If they ever open him up you find a couse of R2 D2.

Hey Ozzie, don't insult R2D2 like that... At least he was LIKABLE!

koo koo koo koo

Romney telling the truth about anything would be a shocker.

Tell me one thing Romney is for that he was at first against, one thing smart guy. The man believes in nothing( except Mormanism, but hey that's a different blog!!)

I dont know ask glenn beck???

DR: You've never seen so much hate as that coming from Democrats??? Guess you've never been to a Tea Party hodown?

What do you suggest a group of common citizens do to fight a group of the quite literally the most powerful and corrupt citizens of this country??? Had I been there, I would have had more than a few choice words for the Koch Gangsters and their hired goon squad.

you obviousley have never been to a Teaparty - whoops - I mean Teabagger "hodown" little oz , but then lack of knowledge on a subject never prevents a liberal bigot like you from blathering on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vrXJ5-EuoE

Ozzie....from your claim it is pretty evident that you have never been to one either. They are pretty docile events where people sit around and talk policy, clean up after each other and talk about solutions for the US. They don't spout hate. That is the propaganda you have been fed though, so you will continue to believe the lie.

By the way, that was apretty pathetic youtube clip. It had nothing to do with hate and I am sure you would find far more ignorant people at an OWS than at a Tea Party, but there will always be a few wierdos in every group.

PC: Wrong again, you dunce. I've seen their handy work on several occassions up close and personal.

AMERICA LAST: The political gatherings I attended with my Democratic Congressman had some pretty violent and hateful tea crazies there. So don't go preaching to me about what good, clean wholesom citizens they all are. Besides which, they sure do look like a bunch of dumbasses in their Tri-Cornered hats. LOL

i sent them a video to look at?

wrong again? Ive never NOT bested you little oz. You must be refering to the left wing plants showing up a Teaparty rallies with signs saying @!$%# or whatever. Arrests at Teapartys - 0 , arrests at occupy riots - in the thousands, go do a bong hit ozzy

> Dr Knowitall? Dems being hateful? What news r u watching? Oh yea, reily & hannity? Wake up guy

Funny... PC/NOT

I mean using a gay sex act as an insult to conservatives. See, I haven't seen any teabagging at Tea Party rallies. That's definitely more of an Occupy activity. But the fact that you hurl it as a term of ignominious disdain implies that you don't think too much of your gay brethren do you? You must be homophobic.

have always been a independent but I have never seen so much hate as I have with the democrats in the last two elections.

'Kill Him", 'He's not one of us". "He's a Muslim", 'He is the Other", "Hitler would love Obamacare', "Obama is the Antichrist', 'Obammy', the "NIg$$ in Chief" , placards depicting Obama as Hitler, the Unibomber and that good ole' respectful spitting on Congressman... and I can go on and on....and lets not forget the vile and profane Teabuggerers who drown out debate at town halls. SHould I go on about how much of a moron you are on this??

SO Dr Knowitall, looks like your lying about being an Independent. BUt I dont blame you, Romney sucks and DOESNT HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS and neither does the GOP. I wouldnt admit to being a Republican either (chuckle). THey suck.

Ozzie BOI proves my point He does nothing but spew hatred at othersThere are too many little children like him on here. You can tell he was probably bullied in school. And I Know Glen Beck is a idiot too. I never said the Rebubs didn't have freakozoids I am talking about the sheer volume of foaming at the mouth zombies. Anybody that blindly votes on party lines needs to reevaluate what they are doing.

Bain took their jobs away get it..not George or Parker

MARY: I get tired of posting this over and over but you are evidently a real slow learner.

Please tell me how Sarah Jessica Parker or George Clooney would personally benifit from an Obama win??? The answer is nothing but higher taxes, that's what. They are not supporting their SELF INTERESTS but rather what they think is best for the country at large. They are in fact, voting AGAINST what would personally benefit themselves. They see no personal gain. Why do you think Clooner goes to Africe all the time, to line his own pockets?

The Koch Brothers are INVESTING money in a candidate, that if he wins, will reward them will lower taxes, relaxed enviornmental regulations and perhaps smooth the way for them to invest in foreign countries. They are seeking TO LINE THEIR OWN POCKETS. They are among other things in the oil business and hate the fact that Obama actually wants to keep them from destroying our enviornment. Their father by the way was a founding member of the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY. I'd say that says it all right there.

You got that now???

bet she dont

liberal bigot ozzy doesnt realize that obama along with all the other democrats have oil all over their hands, aah......... youthful niave tay....grown ups dont have the luxury of ignorance , ozzy

PC,

that is true but they are not going to base their policies based on what the oil execs say. Do you really think Big oil wanted the Pres to close down drilling after the BP spill? If he was a dog for the oil companies he would not have been allowed to do so. I am 100% sure that if it was McCain or Romney the wells would have stayed open.

I would much rather have politicians bought out by people that want to move us toward cleaner energy then ones that want to strip all regulations from the energy industry if the politicians will be bought regardless.

Really it does not matter who is in with who, the main goal is top stop all of the prostitution. Make it completely illegal and a jail-able offense for bribing politicians for subverting the will of the voters of this country. Since corporations are people according to the supreme court the entire board of directors should be thrown in jail.

Cap yearly donations to any and all political groups or elections to $50,000 with strict rules about transparency. Individual names must be attached to the money or it is not accepted. These donations cannot be claimed as deductions either. Anyone found violating this cap get fined 4x the amount in excess of the 50k.

Disband the Chamber of Commerce and outlaw lobbying.

We need tough regulations on political donations and lobbying and we needed them six years ago. The only time the business world should intersect with the political world is during hearings to get the opinions of field experts before crafting legislation.

like what a privatized government you tea party want...that's t otal control..around the laws of the land..that's your rich party plan

KANSAS: And you are a major league clown. Do you actually expect ANYONE to take you seriously when you call our president a Marxist?? Since you apparently are incapable of having a sane argument but rather are hell bent on being an inflammatory bomb thrower I will treat you in kind.

If Obama is a Marxist (and BTW dimwit, socialism is not Marxism) then I guess that makes you a hobnailed booted, goose stepping, Brown Shirt, Facist, Nazi. There, we're even pal. See how easy it is to call people stupid names???

Kansasbob,

I'll go a step farther and challenge you to tell us exactly which of President Obama's policies are either socialist or marxist (the two, btw, are mutually exclusive, but you probably didn't know that, hell, you probably don't know what mutually exclusive means either, lol) and, tell us what makes those policies either socialist or marxist.

My expectations are not high.

Oh, and as for your assertion (another word that's probably too big for you to understand) that Obama will be voted out, you must not be paying attention to the electoral map or the swing state polls. As it stands right now, Obama has a massive lead on the electoral map and in order for Romney to get 270 electoral votes, he'd have to win every single swing state. Unfortunately for him, however, Obama leads in most of them (VA, PA, OH, WI, MI, IA, NH, NV, CO and now he's even taken the lead in Florida!)

Oh, the far-right lunatic fringe keeps accusing the President of being a "Marxist" "Commie" "Socialist" and worst, without ever presenting any valid proof. They apparently think the accusation alone is enough.

Sure, occasionally they point out how Obama had a avowed Marxist neighbor - which proves exactly nothing, or point to the auto company bailout - signed by the President Bush Jr. before he left office. Like I said, not valid proof.

It probably comes from their Bircher origins - the John Birch Society was notoriously paranoid in seeing "Commies" everywhere, also without the slightest shred of proof.

In August 2009, Obama announced he was giving $2 billion in U.S. tax dollars to state-owned oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA of Brazil for offshore oil drilling. At the same time, George Soros increased his stake $811 million in the same oil company. According to Bloomberg Press, 22 percent of the $3.68 billion of stocks and American depositary receipts of Petroleo Brasileiro are held by Soros Fund Management LLC.

@ Kansasbob,

Would you PLEASE inform us what makes Obama a socialist marxist? Also what does the people need??? President Obama and those "politians" you speak of decided that America needed jobs and while he hasn't been able to put all the americans that were put out of work thanks to the previous administration(At the current pace it would be done in 2014), he HAS created 2.4 million jobs so far against the still opposition of a "do nothing" congress (that's republicans AND democrats). If you want to have the argument that he LIED about getting unemployment down under 6%, REMEMBER in order for that to happen ALL the pieces have to play their part and they didn't. Other noted liars that were presidents:

Bush 41 - "Read my lips, No new taxes!"

Clinton - "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman!"

Bush 43 - "Iraq have WMD that are capable of reaching our shores."

If Boehner would have accepted the deal he INITIALLY agreed to with the President, The national debt would be down roughly 300 billion dollars this month.

Common Sense 23 Kansasbob, Would you PLEASE inform us what makes Obama a socialist marxist?

He can't because he read it somewhere and though it sounded good. Thats the same crap the right has been shoveling for years.

Because he believes in total govt control of every aspect of our lives, abhors the Constitution and all fo the limits it places on the Federal Govt, despises capitalism and its inherent relationship between work an wealth, and has done everything he can to extort wealth from those who earn it and give it to those who do not in exchange for votes.

Tell 'em jarhead! bho is nothing but a soros puppet, hell bent on finding new and creative ways to get around the U.S. Constitution, and with holder in his front pocket, is doing an outstanding job of it! It's not surprising to see all of the die-hard liberals, lining up to support this clown. And @lakerman2, who said, "They should be relieved of ALL their fortune and made to get real jobs so they can see how "easy" it is for those who work for a living." Is that tactic straight out of the soros textbook? History shows that he found "delight" in the power of taking others property for the Nazi party. And @juno6, who stated, "Old fat guy - since you are blogging I doubt you are in the elite group of Willard, but a troll. Why are all these ReTHUG governers in several states suppressing voters that would most likely vote Democratic??". Once again, you ignorant liberals take to the "troll" moniker, which is actually more suited for you silly liberals, who sit in front of your computers all day, and just "troll" for any comment you deem unsuitable to your liberal tastes, and pounce on it like a rabid dog. And as for the voter suppression conspiracy theory, are you freaking serious? It should be manditory to have a state issued identification card to vote, period. The only votes that would be suppressed would be the vote of the illegal aliens, who have to business voting in our elections anyway, and those of the 1918 New York Yankee baseball team lineup, as well as the entire cast of Walt Disney. I believe the intent is to keep the election as honest as possible, but that flies in the face of what every liberal believes! One person, one vote, not matter where they are from, if they are living, or if they are even legally in the country. Un-freaking-believable. But then again, you silly liberals aren't know for having much common sense. Have a great day you silly liberals! And don't stop believin'! Oh crap, that was clinton...

Socialist/Marxist,Really?!? Get some perspective, get an education !! Hell, I just noticed, you're from Kansas; it figures

....Obama and all the other politicians who have decided what is best for the American people, instead of listening to what we need are going to be voted out of office this fall

Great, then please tell us Romney's SOLUTIONS and POLICY to solve our problems. You have the hate,,,,but do you HAVE THE SOLUTIONS? Im ready to hear them....go ahead...tell us specifically how Romney will solve our problems. And Sorry, no plattitudes thats what his '59' points of light or whatever it is.

@2_LANE

It seems all of YOU liberal morons have NO IDEA how economics work...as most all owe people you want to stay home, get everything for nothing and hit the upper class (Class warfare). How do you really think jobs are created? The government does NOT create lasting jobs, the private sector does; as much as you love NObama, you are another leach on society! Communism, Socialism and Fascism fails as has been proven! MOST honest AMericans WANT to work and feel proud of themselves and their accomplishments - you apparently are to lazy to even want to try - opportunity has left you behind because of your laziness. OWS - go to h e 1 1 or Russia or China! Better yet Afghanistan.