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Obama the amateur!
Obama's war on America must end. Obama's war on capitalism must end. Obama's war on the middle class must end.
OMG -- Obama must go!
More debt under Obama than all the presidents combined before him!
The welfare president must go! End the food stamp presidency!
Good morning RedSox...............
I see you have the first posted comment. I guess you must have changed jobs and came to work for MSNBC/First Read. Afterall, so many of the RWNJ's that come here continue to state that Feisty has to work for MSNBC because she posts first.......... just sayin'........
As far as your comment, you are joking right?
Red Sox,
You just proved that you cannot do math
In Jan 2009 it was at $10 Trillion
Today it is at $15.8 Trillion
Much less than all others combined
Dennis, look for facts and what the projected deficit is by the end of dumbo's 4 years.
Dennis, I have read many terrific comments from you over the time I've spent here about the economy. I am hopeful that maybe you could shed some light on our mounting debt.
It is my thought that most people lend money with interest.
Is our debt any different? I mean how much interest are we paying on our national debt?
The reason I ask is simple. If we are paying a percentage in interest to the countries that have lent us money, no matter how small, we fall further behind when our country has a lot of unemployment.
If I am correct and we are paying even 3% on the money we have borrowed, wouldn't that mean that even if the country spent almost nothing our debt would continue to grow?
The other reason I ask is because people like RedSoxRule and other RWNJ's continue to claim that President Obama has caused all this debt. The fact, if we are paying interest, should dispel this claim. Unless we get more people working and a stable industry base again, I don't see an end in sight. And that is exactly what the repugs seem bent on preventing in their efforts to oust President Obama.
GOP/Koch have put all their energies into PREVENTING JOB CREATION and growth since the President was sworn in, and they did it in the worst recession in 60 years:
To this end GOP/Koch has laid off as many government workers as possible (700,000 so far), and blocked every single Jobs Bill, including 2 million jobs in the AJA.
Republican GOP seniors made a pact to block all efforts made by the President to help our economy recover from the worst recession in 60 years. And they made that pledge on the day of President Obama's Inauguration. Treason, sedition or conspiracy? Take your pick.
Since then, GOP congressionals have carrried the Kill-the-Economy torch by blocking all Jobs Bills, most recently two million in the American Jobs Act.
GOP has abused the filibuster, filibustering at 3 times the pace ever seen in American history. Thus they did not allow the Jobs Bills to come up for debate.
GOP governors have fired 700,000 public sector workers since 2010 - teachers, police, firefighters. Constructions workers were laid of due to the housing bubble and thousands of them could have been put back to work via the AJA and Infrastructure bill, that GOP-ers are blocking in Congress.
Previous Presidents have increased government workers to help recovery from recession, including GWB.
Without those layoffs, the unemployment rate would be around 7%.
That is why GOP did the layoffs, and why they refused to pass the American Jobs Act.
RedSoxRule - when you stoop to calling our President names it shows you've got nothing. No intelligence; no integrity; no honor; no class - nothing
Obama/Biden 2012
OMG - Obama My God
In Obama We Trust
Red Sox,
That is 6 months from now and will be just over $16 Trillion.
How about the Romney / Ryan budget that projects out National Debt to be $22 Trillion by 2022 !!!
nomoresameo,
As of last year we are spending over $200 Billion a year on debt interest.
Currently out interest is the 6th largest budget item at 4.75% of our spending.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/08/news/economy/national_debt_interest_costs/index.htm
As of last year we are spending over $200 Billion a year on debt interest.
Thank you for the information Dennis.
Simple math points out that since President Obama has taken office we have spent almost $1 Trillion dollars just in interest on what he inherited from previous presidents. And the bulk of that was the president immediately preceding him Bush. And now the repugs want us to elect a fellow named Romney that would follow in Bush's footsteps? Idiotic.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
If OweBama actually submitted a budget the interest could be included in that number. 4 Billion Dollars per Day in new debt. The worst part is that the US treasury is the largest holder now. That means we are just printing money. We are not selling the debt. That means inflation. That really brings home the decifit.
Yes. There have been deficits in the past. Has there ever been a president that did not submit a budget for his entire term? (rhetorical)... I don't want to hear about the republican congress stopping him either. For the first two years Dems had control of both houses. I have not heard anyone justify why there was not a budget for the first two years.
Because they did not have a super majority, stop pretending you people do not know that and repeating that "they had both houses" nonsense. Anytime you here someone using that BS, you know they are lieing or mindlessly parroting the talking points. The republicans set a record for fillibustering when the Democrats help both houses. Nothing is getting passed because the only political play they have is to block everything and then point fingers. To many republicans is the heart of all your problems today.
Wow, the thought that we would be down around 7% had we NOT laid off all those government workers is a huge thing. That many additional people working would do a lot to increase economic activity, which probably would have put us in an even better position than that.
The Republican ideology of deregulation created the economic implosion of 2007/08, and the Republican devotion to austerity is preventing our recovery. This is, of course, all information we could easily have predicted from looking at the past, but Republicans like to party like it's 1899.
Republicans and their deregulation, where did you hear that? MSNBC? John B, you are a tool.
you must be talking about the republicans, all of them.
Actually Owe, the president has submitted a budget every year, just like his predecessors. You can go to the website for OMB and read them. They even have simple plain English explanations of what is in the budgets for math-challenged conservatives.
No Congress over the past three decades has actually passed a budget that even remotely includes the changes proposed in the budget initially submitted by the president.
Also contrary to conservative talking points,a budget for FY 2010 was approved by both houses. For FY 2012 and 2013, the House managed to pass a budget, but that budget could only gain 41 votes in the Senate. Several alternative budget measures also failed to get a majority in the Senate.
p.s. We are not a parliamentary democracy, while a caucus may have a majority in a house of Congress, the party leadership does not "control" the house and individual members of a party can do what they want -- which is why at least 6 Republicans in the Senate have voted against every Republican budget proposal.
We know who kicked us in the gut Romney, it's people like YOU.
I don't know about others, but I'm PISSED about it. Look at the jobs report and you'll see the additional loss of 4,000 public sector jobs as well. If Teapublicans had passed the Jobs Act, and if they and GOP/TP governors had not fired so many government employees -- unemployment would be below 7% right NOW. And those folks would be creating demand in the private sector helping other people get hired right NOW.
Just blaming the president and not proving he is able to make things better doesn't earn Romney the presidency. In fact he has shown zero leadership and only self promotion in regard to just about everything. Thanks for reminding us Romney about kicking us in the gut -- Now F-off and take the rest of the treasonous Teapublicans with you.
Ted-668152 the Tool -- There are so many examples of "Republicans and their deregulation" there isn't enough time and space. So here's just one example -- Republicans trying to block limits on speculation per Dodd-Frank as I type. These limits would prevent wild fluctuations in gas prices that would help consumers and businesses. One word describes them and Romney - disastrous.
Throw the obstructionist Teapublicans out! And Romney -- He's not in it for you.
Tmess ....No Congress over the past three decades has actually passed a budget that even remotely includes the changes proposed in the budget initially submitted by the president.
No.. no they haven't, that being said would you care to share the vote count for the Organizer and Chiefs budget? What was that count now..... Oh yes... it was 414-0! HOLY SH&T what a Joke it must have been!
Romney = success
Obama = failure.
It is real simple. Even for the liberals out there. Obama has had four years to turn it around and as he said himself if he doesn't this will be a one term proposition.
Really, Ted? Did you sleep through 2008, when the world came within days of a complete financial collapse? Did you forget that this collapse started in the unregulated derivatives market? Did you miss it when even Alan Greenspan, high priest of financial deregulation admitted he was wrong to insist that this market remain deregulated?
Well, the numbers are right where the RWNJ's want them to be.
The deep pocketed repugs own how many businesses? Who hires?
Coincidence or master plan to quell economic growth?
When you look at the biggest donors to Mitt's campaign, you gotta wonder, how much better off the country would be if they focused on creating jobs with the money instead of playing in politics.
Sheldon Adelson is Romney's biggest donor (at least, I think so. I understand the campaign has not been transparent about the identity of those giving them money)
Wishfull thinking on your part perhaps?
Contrary to popular belief, more & more people are waking up and not being led around by the nose by the MSM.
We are capable of thinking & talking about many things at the same time!
Thankfully, there is a light at the end of the tunnel - vision.
Good Morning Feisty.
How sad is it that an entire party like the GNOP would be cheering that 8.2% of Americans are faced with continuing unemployment?
They had an agenda and have stuck to it from the 2008 election. Bravo. In their quest to insure that Obama is a one term president they have helped to stagnate America.
Where are all the jobs the Tea Party promised? Pathetic!
how true, the pubs have participated in no job growth. americans? no! traitors to those they represent? yes!
The jobs numbers are just another nail in Obama's coffin. With the falling economic growth and his new ObamaTAX he is done in one.
No second term for Obama.
Have not heard Romney have a conversation about
Romney's JOBS PLAN.
Sandy the Romney job plan is the SOS - cut taxes for the 1%.....raise leg...trickle down....
Mitt Romney has job plan to rebound the economy goto Mitt Romney.com. What is sad the main stream media refuses to to offer Mitt Romney job plans to the public.
I read Mitt Romney's Jobs Plan on mittromney.com a few months ago. It is the same old formula of tax cuts and deregulation.
Of course there are no specifics on what regulations would be cut, or how jobs would increase just by reducing EPA regulations. No explanation as to why demand for goods and services (which drives job growth) would increase just by cutting taxes on the wealthy (again).
The scary part is that the tax cuts and miitary spending increase would dramatically increase our deficit without doing anything to increase jobs.
never will and if he can get out of the debates, he will.
Sandy...and what exactly is Obama's jobs plan???
Devdoc12able
[and what exactly is Obama's jobs plan???]
Sine you haven't been paying attention it is called "The American Jobs Act" and includes a 41 point plan that has 400 pages of details rather than Romney's 57 point plan that is not much more that an outline of ideas with very little detail that many Conservatives have been complaining about.
oh You mean the one that got voted down with not one single vote even from Democrats?? That jobs plan??
Devdoc12able,
No - that was his budget not the AJA, it got filibustered by republicans in the Senate.
The American Jobs Act:
1-Tax Cuts to Help America’s Small Businesses Hire and Grow
2-Putting Workers Back on the Job While Rebuilding and Modernizing America
3- Pathways Back to Work for Americans Looking for Jobs
4- Tax Relief for Every American Worker and Family
5- Fully Paid for as Part of the President’s Long-Term Deficit Reduction Plan Read the rest at the link below
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/09/08/fact-sheet-american-jobs-act
I seem to recall that, in June of 2009, Obama blithely told us his stimulus would create 600,000 jobs during that summer.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/06/amidst-questions-about-their-numbers-white-house-says-stimulus-will-save-or-create-600000-jobs-in-the-next-100-days/
We're still waiting on those.
Then, in June of 2010, we were told that that would be the Summer of Recovery.
Still waiting on that, too.
2011 did not see any pronouncements. So far this summer, we are hearing a lot about "visions",(maybe Thorazine would help with those), blame, and more of the same failed policies.
Obama may be a nice guy, but he's a lousy president. Time for him to live up to one of his own pronouncements- this is a one term proposition, and it's time for him to go.
more garbage from the "under the rock" dweller no joe
no joe, just like the no pubs. no does not create, no destroys. which, makes you and those with your belief system, destroyers.
Not as many as you
safecracker !!
No Joe...Obama is just that speeches and promises. He has not done anything he promised.
Like cut the debt in half his first term.
Close Gitmo.
Bring the terrorist to trial in NYC
Be transparent and have everything online to be seen before voted on
NOPE.......NOBAMA 2012
Biggest fear of the Obama trolls is that their gravy train maybe coming to an end.
iowaview - that comment shows how little you know - or care to know
I don't know anyone who doesn't work - as I do. We all pay our bills, mortgage, grocery, etc. And, we contribute both our money and time to help those less fortunate.
It appears to me the only people on the "gravy train" are the idiotic Republicans.
Obama/Biden 2012
Well seeking then your the sucker...your paying for the other Obama bottom feeders to sit at home and play xbox.
80,000 jobs a month? How pathetic is that! Presently 10,000 baby boomers retire every day thats 300,000 less employees to the US work force. Since Obama has came in office 7.7 million less employees are in the work force. Obama numbers can not change these facts.
no GB, the party of no created the great recession, the great depression, millions of jobs sent over seas and then blame it on the president, thats reall americans? i think not!
Kr do some fact checking and stop repeating nonsense that you heard.
Devdoc12able,
Over the last 30 years our manufacturing base and export business is down 70%.
Where do you think all those jobs went?
Dennis....they went were greedy Labor Unions cant bankrupt their company with ridiculousness demands.
Devdoc12able,
Citation / link to support your claim !!
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/23/151223955/bankrupt-american-airlines-spars-with-unions
Just one little example....And I made sure it was from a liberal site. Because you are not able to see anything with out a liberal spin.
Devdoc12able,
How about a creditable source that covers 30 years of lost job losses due to union excessive demands not a “one off” example?
There are always examples of organizations acting badly like the Banks causing a financial disaster.
The real kick in the gut is the actions of the backward leaning TEA-Republican party. It astounds me when driving through a friendly little suburb you see two-story mansions with tennis courts, volley ball courts and swimming pools next to three bay garages and a covered parking area for their RV's. And then you see, TEA-Republican candidate political signs in the front yard. The most well-to-do backing extremist in this political climate. Deep within Texas' barrios and hoods few signs signal involvement in the political decisions. The rich should be producing jobs with all the money they are saving, but not. Romney has no inkling of the trials and trivialization's of the lower or middle and that should have been very evident with his comments: "I'm not concerned about the very poor" and "I like being able to fire people."
Obama has provided numerous proposals which were included with poison pill legislation knowingly sent on with knowledge it would never pass the Senate. Romney tries to use these new jobs numbers as fodder while the Congress is the real culprit in the stagnant jobs numbers.
Sadly Romney's primary concern is with those living in the luxury outlined above. He wants to save those people taxes while passing the bulk of taxation onto the middle class and lower echelon of society.
Hi, I'm Rudy Gonzales. Without mommy government there to feed all my fat, useless kids I wouldn't be having more fat, useless kids.
ted, do you realize what shape our country would be in or any industrialized country without a social net?
think man, think!
So was the Titanic
But at least the Titanic didn't see the iceberg....Americans is in plain view sitting in the White House.
The captain of our ship and his steadfast crew don't see the iceberg. In fact, they don't even believe that there even could be an iceberg.
Government run health care... make sure all the useless welfare cases get free medical and make whitey pay for it. That will help close the wealth divide. Typical stupid f'n ni66ers.
Ted, as a conservative and as a human being, I find your comments ignorant.
Yes, oh yes: and here is one for you :BULLETSTOPPER
I take the jobs offshore to Chinaland
and send my stash in switzerland.
while paying only 15% tax as wealthy as I am.
Let the poor and working class go to hell.
because all I have to do is to press the bell.
my luxury car will come to me on my elevator.
while the children can't go to school, because their is no pay for their educator.
who cares about education for them. keep those cells filled up, and build more jails
who needs school anyway, when I can invest in jails.
tax payers will pay for the cigarettes,
the clothing, the food, the laundry and the glasses
and what a return on my investment, all I pay 15%, and leave the rest to those middle classes
they will pay the rest, and fill those jail cells up, after all I need to reinvest.
so I can keep those uneducated boys and girls a coming, the middle class, we can take the stress
Blame, Blame, Blame.... Come on Obama can we play another game now? This one is old already! Stop blaming Bush for your mistakes! (even thought I know you won't, that's how your kind are) Come on America!... WAKE UP!!! lets vote this bum out of office!! We need jobs not health care!!
For ALL of YOU with anal vision!
Romney says the jobs number is "a kick in the gut", but did he explain that the right foot that kicked in the gut belonged to G W Bush and his Administration, the Great Recession of 2008 thru ? (2023), did he explain that the left foot that kicked in the gut, belongs to McConnell, Boehner, Kyl & Cantor who have said "NO" to doing anything to assist the economy on an improving trajectory?
The GOP, Repuglicraps have NEVER under their terms in the Presidency, NEVER ONCE had an improving economy, EVERY SINGLE GOP, Republicrap administration has slowed the economy, increased unemployment and lowered our standard of living, this is just a PLAIN VANILA FACT!!!!!!!
The GOP, Repuglicraps did bring us THREE STRIKING ECONOMIC EVENTS, the 1930 DEPRESSION, the 1981 REAGAN RECESSION and the 2008 GREAT RECESSION!!!!!!!
Really how long are you going to continue to use the wore out excuse of Blaming Bush. It will not work, it has not worked.
Get a new talking point. One were maybe Obama takes credit for the horrible economy.
Devdoc12able,
Regan was still blaming Carter when he ran for reelection in 1984.
Says the man who supports the worst President in history. I mean do you have and altar chant OOOBBBAAAMMMAA??
x
Obama made promises. He made very good speeches and promised to be a change.
Well he broke his promises and the speeches are not helping anyone get a job. I see all you liberal sheep asking for details about Romney's 59 point plan. But not one of you can tell me one point of Obama's plan. ( I mean other than blame someone else).
It is time for the Obama experiment to go away. He didn't work, he was nothing more than a cheap suit with a good speaking voice.
ROMNEY 2012
Military Members, Veterans, Military retirees;
please note that Swiss Bank account Romney PROMOTED THE DRAFT during the Viet Nam War,
then skipped out to France for extraordinary length of time when church missionary tours were limited.
When Romney came home, he sided with his dad that the whole Viet Nam War was a scam and that he was against the war.
Promoting the draft, while Americans were dying, he skipped out, then says he wishes he could have participated. His whole life has been a lie.
Romney is a COWARD, Lying, Draft Dodger, who promoted someone else to die for him, that is his way of management.
Some may want anyone but Obama, but this guy ranks with Jane Fonda and should not be given anything or elected for anything.
For those who are not old enough to remember the military draft, it was a mandatory commitment for two years that was implemented during the Viet Nam War. If your number was called, you went and served like it or not. Young people may say, I wouldn't go and they can't make me, think again.
This is what Romney promoted as if he were a "responsible citizen", then he left his fellow citizens to serve and some died for us and him. I am ashamed of him as I am retired military member, and forget about representing our country Mr. Romney.
I am one of the Military members who are against Romney, and against his bid for the presidency.