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Subscribe to RSSNow that the Supreme Court has ruled the health care mandate is constitutional and Mitt Romney has renewed his commitment for a full repeal of the law, Democrats have continued to point out the similarities between Romney's Massachusetts law and the Affordable Care Act.
But some Republicans aren't on message.
Yes, it’s the return of 'Obamneycare.'
The term -- linking the Massachusetts plan with the federal one -- was first coined over a year ago by Romney’s opponent-turned-surrogate Tim Pawlenty during an appearance on Fox News Sunday.
“Well, you don't have to take my word for it. You can take President Obama's word for it. President Obama said that he designed Obamacare after Romneycare and basically made it Obamneycare,” Pawlenty said.
On a conference call this morning, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) got a little tongue-tied during his defense of Romney and a repeal of the law.
“There's only one candidate, Gov. Romney, who's committed that he will repeal the Obamney -- the Obamacare tax increase,” Jindal said. “He will repeal Obamacare as soon as he's elected.”
Though Jindal quickly correct himself, the damage was done. Just an hour later, Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (D) had already seized on the comments to show the similarities between the two laws.
Speaking on a conference call organized by the Obama campaign, O’Malley said of the tax penalty for people who do not buy insurance, “It was a penalty provision that was also in Romneycare, or as Gov. Jindal just called it, Obamneycare.”
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STILL STUCK ON STUPID!!!!!!
Were all of these idiots sent to the same school of lower learning?
You folks do realize what is happening here right?
House passes the infrastructure/Studen Loan bill, Obamacare/Immigration is an Obama winner by the SCOTUS.
Obama was all set to run against a "Do Nothing Congress" and "Activist Supreme Court".
He has now run out of excuses.
He can try Bush again, yeah that ought to be a winner for him..
Now he has to run on the economy.
Wreckovery Summer part 3.
Bring it on.
I guess Pawlenty just got himself scratched off the Romney VP list. Thanks to Pawlenty, everyone is reminded that the ObamaCare is RomneyCare.
P.S. When Romney says he will repeal ObamaCare if elected (yeah, right!), does that mean he is really planning on repealing himself???
The sweet sounds of grasping at straws. What beautiful music to my ears.
WCA -- One or two bills passed does not make for a case for good governing.
That's funny about Jindal's slip. LOL Wonder if he's still in contention.
Obamneycare! AWESOME! How long can this guy run from his past? I love, LOVE, that this Is the alternative to electing Obama...wet wood. Gag reflex activated...
The fine is officially a "tax" in the eyes of the court. The law stands.
easy re-election. no suspense.
Uh-oh, maybe Pawlenty won't be the VP pick after all...
Am I the only one who is still stunned that Teapublicans are backing Romney, the pioneer of "Obamacare?" Amazing what the 'R' next to his name can overcome, huh?
And that faulty argument about Romneycare being the model for the nation, and then not for the nation and only good for states... Well Vermont has passed single-payer, and now that states know the SCOTUS upheld ACA and even the mandate, more will do the same. Another great suggestion by Romney -- He could have it both ways after all - Hahaha!
thetotas -- The fine, tax, whatever you want to call it, is meaningless. Not only are the amounts comparatively small, but there is no enforcement to make folks pay it. This is why the insurance companies got pissed and bailed at the end, and started running ads against ACA -- Because they thought people would be forced to by insurance. Well if folks do buy it, at least 80% paid must be used for actual health care thanks to ACA!
The fact is, the republicans have NO health plan to replace the affordable health care act... And what is even stranger, most of what President Obama passed in the health care had originated from the Heritage Foundation and the republicans... How do the square that? They just hate the president, plain and simple...
White Collar Auto is going to get pretty darned dizzy from all that spinning. It doesn't change the fact that our President is on a roll of successes and the American people aren't blind to that fact:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
Glenn Beck's photo should be next to the definition of Drama Queen. Never let good anger go to waste -- Get those T-shirts on the market pronto.
Some one said the ACa is an "awful" law my question is Why??? no one has been able to answer that question with the exception of some paranoid rants about government take over. The reps have no replacement health care plan because they have to check with the health insurance companies first.
I hope Willard picks Bobby "The Exorcist" Jindal as his running mate. Maybe Jindal can show him the giant sand pile he made in response to the Gulf oil spill.
According to Think Progress, Glenn Beck is selling tee shirts aimed at Chief Justice Roberts.
It says -
COWARD - For just 30 bucks.
So these people want to be free loaders when it comes to health care?
That's nothing new with this crowd.
Pat Boston MA.
I guess that's up there with Beck's fake gold business
Romney wants BainCare instead so his fellow Mormon can get in on the action.
Leavitt wants RomneyCare as an encore to Medicare Prescription Drug Plan (Part D). He's already set up insurance exchanges in all fifty states that are 'Leavitt Partners'.
Conservatives Wonder Why Romney Picked Obamacare-Loving Mike Leavitt To Lead Transition Team
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/conservatives-attack-mitt-romney-michael-leavitt-transition-team-obamacare-exchanges.php
Paul Krugman/Posted @ DailyKos:
At one level, the most striking thing about the campaign against reform was its dishonesty. Remember “death panels”? Remember how reform’s opponents would, in the same breath, accuse Mr. Obama of promoting big government and denounce him for cutting Medicare? Politics ain’t beanbag, but, even in these partisan times, the unscrupulous nature of the campaign against reform was exceptional. And, rest assured, all the old lies and probably a bunch of new ones will be rolled out again in the wake of the Supreme Court’s decision.
But what was and is really striking about the anti-reformers is their cruelty. It would be one thing if, at any point, they had offered any hint of an alternative proposal to help Americans with pre-existing conditions, Americans who simply can’t afford expensive individual insurance, Americans who lose coverage along with their jobs. But it has long been obvious that the opposition’s goal is simply to kill reform, never mind the human consequences. We should all be thankful that, for the moment at least, that effort has failed.
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Never mind the human consequences.
These are the people you need to stay far far far away from. They are beyond cruel, and that includes, no surprise - Romney, the guy who got rich while people lost their jobs.
Pat Boston Ma, My thinking exactly! You just said it alot better than I could and a whole lot of politicians for that matter.
Amen excellent post
Romney is the true Creator and Godfather of Obamneycare and now he has to run against himself. Mitt Romney is already constantly at war with himself and lacks integrity to such a degree that he hasn't a clue where he stands on any issue. Anyone with an IQ above a tomato understands that the Republicans created the Great Recession, which began in 2006 as a result of 14 years of failed Republican policy. It was Republicans that controlled Both Houses of Congress from 1994-2006 and the US Presidency from 2000-2008. Obama has in fact created 5 times the number of jobs than Bush and the do nothing republicans. The country was losing 800,000 jobs a month when Republicans were in power and it is now gaining 100,000-250000 jobs per month.
these facts are a b@#$h aint it! good post
The Affordable Care Act has been a daunting process on most Americans. Its decision has played a great role in not just the lives of everyday Americans, but has an impact on how the American economic landscape will recover in this economic crisis. In this case now that the law has been upheld, businesses can expect to face some uphill challenges in trying provide this new healthcare. Undoubtedly, we will see the job market adapt (perhaps strangely) to comply with () new practices.
Maybe someone should tell NBC's Matt Loffman that the Mandate was not ruled constitutional. In fact the Court ruled the mandate could not be used under the Commerce Clause. The only reason the ACA was ruled constitutional was the Supreme Court changed the wording of the law to make the mandate a tax.
sfcret - it really doesn't matter - it is now law. Spin it any way you like!
Obama/Biden 2012
Obama/doesnt/care!
What a ridiculous statement fashioned simply out of hate.
It is so hot Romney's dog did not mind being tied to the roof of the car.
Romney boasted that Congress and the President could learn a lot about health care reform from his Massachusetts plan during an interview with CNN in 2009, "I think there are a number of features in the Massachusetts plan that could inform Washington on ways to improve health care for all Americans," he said "The fact that we were able to get people insured without a government option is a model I think they can learn from." Start at 1:05 and note the lack of concern about constitutional issues.
The republicans LIED when they said Obamneycare was unconstitutional.
There will never be a Rummey the Dummy Presidency! Obamneycare lives on!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012 GOING FOREWARD! Rummey===REVERSE.
You and Obummer can suck a loaf out of my azz.
Big?Jim
Mark the spot. You seem to be all azz.
Very interesting, ObamNEY CARE in MASS. exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH must have somehow stolen it from our illustrious president because he could have never figured it out by himself; he doesn't have the brains, he's just a corrupt Republican corporate political puppet! OBAMNEY CARE! It doesn't even sound good. It's REAL NAME is The American People's HEALTHCARE Program. Thank you, ILLUSTRIOUS PRESIDENT! We know you won't MAKE SLAVES of US like the corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY has!
Vote 100% STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC and let's take our country back that our forefathers of our Constitution gave us!
TR - Do you have any idea where the "Etch-a-Sketch" insult originated or are you just vomiting back left-wing slogans that some other idiot fed you? Here are the facts for those who actually care about the truth:
Romney's communications director Eric Fehrnstromon referred to the shift from a primary campaign to a presidential campaign by saying "I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch-A-Sketch" Of course, Romney's opponents immediately pretended the remark had some significance.
Contrast this with Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor and mentor for 20 years saying, “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”
Intelligent people will recognize that the "etch-sketch" comment is a cute analogy by one of Romney's campaign workers; while saying that AIDS is a means of genocide against Blacks. represents a core belief that Obama has absorbed.
Can someone explain why this article is anything more than one of Obama's attack ads?
The individual mandate may be similar in Romneycare and Obamacare. However, there are still some differences:
Romneycare enables people to purchase plans that include abortion coverage. Obamas ACA, on the other hand, lets states opt out to not cover the procedure.
Where is the right-wing outrage about Romnecare in this case?
Further, Romneycare covers illegal immigrants: "The Health Safety Net (Free Care) is for uninsured or underinsured Massachusetts residents who do not have access to affordable health coverage. People of any income with large medical bills that they cannot pay are also eligible. Your citizenship or immigration status does not affect your eligibility." (Source: http://www.massresources.org/hsn.html )
Where is the right-wing outrage about this?
In 2007, Romney said that when the uninsured show up in emergency rooms and get free health care, that's a "form of socialism."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIPynMZuQtI&feature
Where is the right-wing outrage about Romney's flip-flop?
Romney about the individual mandate he now opposes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmihmlb1LBY&feature
Where is the right-wing outrage about this?
If you are ready to vote for Romney you vote for man who created and signed into law a health care reform that is more strignent than Obama's.
Just as I thought, and many others as well, the white house is now saying that it's not a tax LOL. First they say it's not a tax so they can peddle it to the American people. Then they peddle it as a tax to the court to get it passed. Now, they're saying, again, that it's NOT a tax. Just how stupid are liberals? No question that they're stupid, just of how stupid.
The Republican Death Party wants to deprive 30 million Americans their access to life saving health insurance. They were also for big tobacco and defended their donor tobacco corporations from Congressional investigation.
100,000 innocent Iraqis and 4,450 American military were killed by their war in Iraq. The Death Party wants your vote so that they may continue killing.
Romney and the GOP/tp have had 3 years to put together a workable alternative to Affordable Health Care. what have they produced for us to study? Haaa, oh, I know...NOTHING!!! That's right folks. After three years of spewing hatred of this bill and President Obama and they still have no alternative. Even with this, all the conservative sheep on this Vine defend the their masters, trying to tell us that their masters are right and we are un-American and wrong. Thanks but no thanks guys. If wanting 31 million Americans, mostly poor women and children, to have access to affordable health insurance that they previously had no access to makes me un-American, well, I guess I can live with that. Just as they seem to be OK with those same people having to go without affordable health insurance. Yeah, that's real Christian and American, wish ill on our most vulnerable citizens. Now it's our job to fight the lies that will be coming at us non stop from those so called "real Americans". Real Americans my butt. What a laugh.