Feisty my dear,

Magnifico.

Love, peace, Healthcare.

President Barack Obama rocks it out.

My, mymymymymymy.

Gotta love Joe/Barack.

Bravo, bravo.

What a great day for 30 million Americans without health care.

September 2009:

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you reject that it’s a tax increase?

OBAMA: I absolutely reject that notion.

All this dude does is lie to us.

Congratulations to the Rational People of America.

VINDICATION...and common sense ruled. Chief Justice Roberts took the high road and justice did reign today.

Mandate Survives as Tax

Victory how s-weet it is!!!!!

Tis a G-0-0-0-0-d day for America

Thanks MSNBC for all you do.

You too; Fiesty. All you hard work has paid off. Don't forget to collect you pay on the newsvine. You deserve it.

Hell, we all do.

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Fired UP; ready to Go

Unconstitutional under the commerce clause! The Obama position lost!

It was only upheld based on Justice Roberts vote that it was a TAX!

Tax increase and this coming under the tax regulations, do not connect those dots. Apples to oranges.

LOL. Now the courts are great. 10 minutes ago it was a Kangaroo court. Fisty, you lose credibility by the minute.

Obama just increased taxes significantly on the middle class. Way to go!

Congress passes a unconstitutional law. Way to go!

You don't have to pay the tax if you don't want to. Way to go!

Crippled the whole thing since there is now no revenue to support it. Way to go.

LOL

Well this ought to mobilize the right.

Yes we can, and yes we did!

Yahoooooo, yippee, yeah! What a great day for the American people!

Chief Justice John Roberts decided he did not want his painting stored in the basement along with that other guy's.

Guess Mitt Romney will have a "sleepless" night tonight trying to figure out which way his weather vane is blowing.

Roberts has substituted his own wimpiness for a correct reading of the Constitution. EVERY Dem including Barry said this was not a "tax". What part of "this is not a tax" does Roberts NOT understand??

PERFECT WAY TO START THE DAY

This is a spectacular day for the American people!

Feisty, BackHouse, Amy, Dennis, Jody, Beverly and so many more of the liberal/progressive supporters that come here everyday should be proud.

We come most everyday showing our support for the President and his ideas. Now the SCOTUS is backing his most coveted accomplishment.

Get ready to watch the RWNJ's heads explode!

And what's better is that NitWitMitt will look like the fool he is because he has stated that the ACA was a folly. This should show how far out of touch the right wing is with matters of the constitution. Even with 5 of the 9 justices being conservatives, the bill still passed!

White Collar Auto

Well this ought to mobilize the right.

WCA, the right is driving a clunker. You should park it in the ditch and try again in 4 more years.

CNN initially reported that this had been struck down. And they're supposed to be in the news business?

Of course it was upheld...even the "conservative" Roberts knew it. There wasn't anything that was going to stop it, not even a "vindetta" against President Obama for calling them out at the STOU.

See...even SCOTUS knows that President Obama knew what he was doing, and his background as a "community organizer" has proven to beat even his biggest critics, right gang?

Yeah, you know I'm right...

mickey,

I will only post one gloating post:

Wonder what Spanky is doing down in Cancun today, crying in his Corona???

Where is our President????????????????????????????

I want to hear from him and our Vice President and all democrats who FOUGHT tool and nail for this legislation. Nancy Pelosi, where are you? Senator Reid, where are you? This legislation almost cost Sen. Reid his re-election, but he stuck by the people of this Nation to get this legislation passed. He stuck by we the people and President Obama. A real class act. Thank you Sen. Reid.

Oh yeah, where's Jeffrey Toobin?

[WCA, the right is driving a clunker.]

Yeah, one that HE designed...even after benefitting from the bailouts.

Right WhiteCollarCriminal?

Yeah, you know I'm right...now back to feilding questions about proper tire pressure....and things...

Question for anyone who knows:

The law was upheld on the basis of it being a tax. Is the reason it is upheld because of that obscure law that says a tax cannot be challenged until collected (which would be 2014)? Or has it been deemed that even then it will be constitutional? Yeesh...this stuff is confusing!!

[I will only post one gloating post:

Wonder what Spanky is doing down in Cancun today, crying in his Corona???]

Northstar, you deserve it...Spanky is probably saying:

...yeabut...yeabut...yeabut... ;)

Pat you wrote: CNN initially reported that this had been struck down. And they're supposed to be in the news business?

It sure wont help their ratings problem.

You are absolutely correct Pat. The President should be making a news conference at the White House with a statement that proclaims his victory for the American people that he and the democrats fought so hard to accomplish!

Bravo President Obama for getting something done that no other president was able to accomplish no matter how they tried to do it!

I am shocked at the affirmative vote from Chief Justice Roberts. I would have bet money that his vote would have been negative. American citizens of the future will be pleased that this is the date when we entered the socially most important piece of legislation of the 20th century. I have never heard of any country that has this vitally important piece of welfare been stupid enough to rescind it. There will be many times when it will need to be tweaked,but it should survive for our future citizens.

I see several conservatives here are enjoying sour grapes for breakfast.

Yesterday, Speaker Boehner said if the mandate was struck but the rest upheld, the House will immediately pass legislation to repeal what was left and if the whole ACA was upheld, they will pass legislation to repeal it. Guess Boehner forgot, the GOP House already did pass legislation to repeal it but, hey, they'll waste time repealing it again rather than work on those "jobs, jobs, jobs" they promised.

Grimey,

That question was one of the 4 issues that were part of the oral arguments. So IMO that question was answered as the SC did not punt till 2015.

Good morning all...a great day for America, and Americans.

Health care will be a right not a luxury.

RedSoxRules wrote:

Obama just increased taxes significantly on the middle class. Way to go!

You don't have to pay the tax if you don't want to. Way to go!

Typical tea people Koch republican response. Hey RSR it's not really a tax if you don't have to pay it. Do you ever read what you post? You should start, you look foolish with posts like this.

I'm happy for the 30 million plus Americans who can now have healthcare. A huge step in the right direction.

Chief Justice Roberts did not want to be on the wrong side of history with the tag line that he was the chief justice of the most conservative court in American history.

Dennis...

Thanks! I am having a tough enough time reading the interpretations of the ruling. I am not about to wade into the actual decision and its wording!! ;-)

Well...no crying over spilled milk...congrats to those of you who got the decision you wanted!! :-) And to those who did not get the result they wanted...use it as motivation and get involved in the political process! :-)

How long is it going to take NitMitt to start running ads and giving speeches touting the fact that "HIS" health care passed in the SC, and stating he was for it all the time....LOL

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How long is it going to take NitMitt to start running ads and giving speeches touting the fact that "HIS" health care passed in the SC, and stating he was for it all the time....LOL

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President Obama plans to speak; heard that this morning. No doubt Pelosi, Reid and others are planning their own comments and possibly to be there with him.

Note to David Gregory, your political bias and your animosity toward President Obama is showing this morning much more than usual. His anger is obvious.

First - what a great day for the country. I'm stunned Roberts did what he was supposed to do! Amazing!

And, Bob in Virginia, WCA, Joe in Albany, RedSoxRule - I seem to remember only yesterday all of you gloating over what a great day you would be having today and how all the "liberals" would be coming up with excuses. As I look at the posts here, the only excuses and whining seem to be coming from you guys! Funny how that works.

Now, you're saying the Supreme Court didn't uphold the Constitution! Oh my - I guess we'll hear excuses from the little righties all day long!

Well done President Obama!

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Pat,

Speaker Reid just spoke in the Senate in praise of the ACA, the biggest step in our history for affordable, quality health care.

A little more, but will just say that he was a gentleman and said let's move on, and to "stop fighting yesterday's battles".

Pat, do you think it is more disinforming tactics, or could news outfits really be so far out of the loop?

Some are going to claim "liberty died today" but I offer this from the opinion:

Just as the individual mandate cannot be sustained as a law regulating the substantial effects of the failure to purchase health insurance, neither can it be upheld as a "necessary and proper" component of the insurance reforms. The commerce power thus does not authorize the mandate.

Interesting that SCOTUS found the mandate constitutional under Congress's taxing power.

My point is I don't think any new law can point to this decision and claim that Congress had the power to enact the new law under the commerce clause. Jumbled words...Starbucks hasn't quite kicked in yet.

Congratulations to my cuddly leftist friends -- although I betcha you're as surprised by the ruling as I was.

Obviously I'm disappointed. The only saving grace from the perspective of the right is that it's now clear the only way to get rid of Obamacare is for Republicans to gain control of the government in 2012. Maybe that energizes Republicans even more than they already are. Disdain for Obamacare played a big role in the Democratic shellacking in 2010, and the question now is will it do so again.

Note to David Gregory, your political bias and your animosity toward President Obama is showing this morning much more than usual. His anger is obvious.

You caught that too... eh... Jody!

Poor little Gotcha should look into some anger management! ☺

On another note - did you notice our usual roosters who have been crowing for weeks on end about this & SB1070 are suddenly silent?

So far this week it;s 2 for 2 for the President!

I think congratulations should go to all of the millions of people that have lost their job, cobra over, and can't afford health care.

At one time I too was one of these millions of people. And then I had a devastating health issue but one doctor treated me for free.

I now have insurance that I purchase myself because I have no benefits at my job of 14 years. Since then in the past 18 months I am now going in for my 4th operation and I still can't afford it. The health companies will do everything in the power not to pay for the bills!

Bob in Virginia-5210392

Unconstitutional under the commerce clause! The Obama position lost!

It was only upheld based on Justice Roberts vote that it was a TAX!

Who are you to deem anything unconstitutional? Your a sore loser who will not admit defeat.

I think congratulations should go to all of the millions of people that have lost their job, cobra over, and can't afford health care.

At one time I too was one of these millions of people. And then I had a devastating health issue but one doctor treated me for free.

I now have insurance that I purchase myself because I have no benefits at my job of 14 years. Since then in the past 18 months I am now going in for my 4th operation and I still can't afford it. The health companies will do everything in the power not to pay for the bills!

I think congratulations should go to all of the millions of people that have lost their job, cobra over, and can't afford health care.

At one time I too was one of these millions of people. And then I had a devastating health issue but one doctor treated me for free.

I now have insurance that I purchase myself because I have no benefits at my job of 14 years. Since then in the past 18 months I am now going in for my 4th operation and I still can't afford it. The health companies will do everything in the power not to pay for the bills!

Anyone have any bets on how long it will take Mittens to string some kind of response together to this decision?

Backhouse, did you see Lawrence's Rewrite last night? I thought he nailed it by saying if this legislation was thrown out, no pundit would have worried about those being left behind. The ACA was always about the game of politics with most of them. Lawrence is awesome.

Something funny - the folks over at DailyKos want to know if the death panels were upheld. LoL.

Yes we are very "cuddly leftists", when we are not being very prickly.

And we look out for our fellow Americans and want them all - rich, poor and very poor to have healthcare.

Just like in all the other developing countries.

WCA --

TEPHANOPOULOS: But you reject that it’s a tax increase?

OBAMA: I absolutely reject that notion.

And it's not a tax increase if you buy insurance. But I do agree with you that this is what's wrong with the mandate. Not that the government doesn't have power to impose a tax, but rather that the people who already cannot afford to buy insurance will be forced to pay more in taxes.

Let's just hope there are teeth in the word "affordable."

That's the only thing I fear. There are no real checks in ACA on what insurance companies can charge, except the 80/20 rule, which does nothing to lower the cost of care.

Double post. Me thinks the Gremlins are at work here......

Although I am pleasantly surprised by the SCOTUS decision, I will temper my enthusiasm with the knowledge that there is still a long way to go to improve US Healthcare.

Although the ACA has many excellent provisions and has been ruled constitutional, it is still a flawed piece of legislation. I hope that after President Obama wins re-election and Congress realizes they will have to deal with it for four more years they can come together in a bi-partisan way to preserve the best parts of the legislation and improve the parts that need it.

The grim fact is a large majority of Americans still do not approve of this legislation. The President and the Democratic party need to take this opportunity to do a better job of informing the public what the legislation does and doesn't do.

Democratic leaders then need to at least try to find a way to work with the Republicans to make improvements. I hope and pray that the Republicans accept the fact that the ACA is now established law and will work WITH the President.

but rather that the people who already cannot afford to buy insurance will be forced to pay more in taxes.

That always seemed odd to me as well

White Collar Auto

Anyone else notice the right wing nitwits aren't nearly as cocky as they were last week! lol

How about we talk on Thursday? LOL

#1.15 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:39 AM CDT

So WCA?

What do you want to talk about?

What kind of egg is all over your face? lol

Looks like scrambled to me!

Oh to see the turd blossum squirm and moan.

Who would of thunk it? Chief Justice Roberts goes all the way around the barn and doesn't splash any bovine excrement.

O.K. R.W.N.J.s, you going to get off the snide and start cooperating or what? Just got your hats handed to you, maybe you can drop the intransigence now. The country has a jobs bill and a highway bill and a student loan bill that needs to be passed NOW. Tea is no longer the flavor of the week (though it is the flavor of the weak).

Great to see the U.S.A. entering the 21st century!

Always remember and never forget...

Rombot.Has.Nothing.

Bill,

Thank you for your post.

Yes, if the GOP becomes really energize so be it.

But the heathcare law stands, and many Americians will be able to find insurance that do not have it.

BTW, was your state one of the 26 who didn't want to increase their Medicaid rolls with federal money to bring coverage to more adults in your state?

Good Morning Dennis, How are you today? I would guess quite delighted. I have in the past seen the liberals take the Supreme Court to task for being to conservative and controlled by the Republicans.

I have never been in favor the the Supreme Court, or any other court, making law from the bench. They should either say the law is constitutional or unconstitutional as written. Chief Justice Roberts and the 4 on the left really violated the oath, in that they MADE LAW with this decision when they made the mandate a TAX even when Obama and the Democrats said it was not a TAX.

IMO, I believe we, the right, will be more fired up to get out and vote for those who will repeal this law. All the more reason to make sure the Republicans take control of the Senate and retain the House and win the WH back.

I was reading on the New York Times website this morning, a story about all the people who are counting on the Affordable Care Act to help them get health insurance, and I thought, now the media starts to cover what this means for real people.

I was on another website at 10:00am that broke in to say the mandate was struck DOWN. Immediately, I thought, "well, folks will now start to learn what we have lost, and perhaps they will support the President for at least trying to get everyone covered with health insurance, removing lifetime caps, and outlawing coverage denial for pre-existing conditions."

THEN I came to MSNBC and l learned that the mandate was actually UPHELD, and I burst into tears (well, to the extent I can, at work.) Thank you Democrats! Thank you Justice Roberts!!!!!

Pat Boston MA.

Pat the President will speak @ 12:00 EST

The Grimm Weeper has just said the RepubliCONS will work on a repeal in July.

How about working on those J-0-B-S you prosimed Mr. Speaker?

Republicans have picked up the gavel; yet have failed to produce zero (0), nada, zilch jobs since over 500+ days.

After all, isn't that what you and the T-baggers promised??

http://www.whenarethejobs.com/

Please cut the crap!

Pat, I never listen to TNN, CNN. To me they are a Baby FOX NOISE. Besides, I enough LMAO at the idiots over @ the Fear Factory Roger Ailes built; aka FOX NOISE; who can't even get their graphics correct; nevermind the news.

This is a huge victory not just for those who will now have health care but for all those men and women who have battled cancer or other serious illnesses and survived--they have a pre-existing condition and now, their insurance can never be cancelled, they can never be denied insurance, and there will be no caps on their coverage for future care. We know FR posters who directly or indirectly are affected by today's Supreme Court ruling. No doubt each of us has friends and family affected as well.

Pat,

All I can say on the macabre, off-the-wall political claims about the GOP "death panels" in 2010:

SCOTUS would have been judged as such if they hadn't endorsed ACA, because so many thousands of Americans young and old, die without treatment every year.

Palin said on Monday "I stand by everything...what was true then is true now.." No principles and every word a lie since she got the mike in the lower 48 --when they drug her down from Alaska.

A brutally dishonest woman. Couldn't give a ....about real people.

How long is it going to take NitMitt to start running ads and giving speeches touting the fact that "HIS" health care passed in the SC, and stating he was for it all the time....LOL

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Congrats all you liberals and welcome to the civilized world.

I heard that Rand Paul said this morning after the Supreme ruling that just because the Supremes say its constitutional doesn't mean that it really is. LOL. Really?

GT, hi

With you on mysterious FR posting events. I was registered but disconnected, on FR - last night and first thing today.

Time went by... and magically somehow OK again. Site is probably (was gonna say taxed) stretched to the limit today.

Special report in from CNN:

Major Explosion in Cancun, Mex

What mexican

How is it that Boehner and the Nobody-Gets-Healthcare-But-Us Brigade:

Immediately swing into attack mode on the rest of the country, saying they will give healthcare back to the Insurance Companies -

OR ELSE.

You will notice that all the liberals on here are sucking up big time to the Supreme Court...last week, they were insulting them as a bunch of paid Koch supporters. It's amusing to see them being hypocrites! So now we have a national TAX for healthcare! I'm sure that will go over well with the general population when they realize that they are going to have a TAX placed on them! All this will do is motivate people to vote for representatives that will commit to overturn this legistlation.

Special report in from CNN:

Major Explosion in Cancun, Mex

UPI: 700amPst

What Mexican officials first thought was a terrorist attack, turned out to be the head of a California man that exploded at about 7:00AM PST. No other details were kwown. However, people interviewed at the scene thought the persons name was Spanky. Mexican officials would not comment.

Stay tuned for further developments...

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I actually took the time to read the opinion of Justice Roberts. I must say, I am still confused how a law is not a tax, yet it is upheld as a a tax.

For the Medicaid expansion extortion provision being struck down, I think that is a bone being thrown to the rabid anti-feds.

Bottom line on the whole thing is that if you can afford it, you have to have health insurance or pay the tax. I guess that now Congress can require the purchase of broccoli or the payment of a broccoli tax, so long as the tax is not an excessively penalty.

GT: truly LOL.

Funny that we haven't heard from our esteemed legal colleague.

I thought the Kochs were supposed to be these genius businessmen. They sure got a shiznitty ROI from the millions they've poured into defeating this.

However, people interviewed at the scene thought the persons name was Spanky.

LMFAO!

Did they identify the remains by his Speedo in a wedgie?

Special report in from CNN: Just in!

A naked madman roaming through the streets of a Virginia town, wielding a vagina probe device, head also mysteriously exploded at or about the same time as the California man's in Mexico did. Authorityies would not comment on whether there was any connection between the two. Stay tuned for further developments.

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Did they identify the remains by his Speedo in a wedgie?

Feisty -

Witness's say it was akin to the Sperm whale that exploded on a taipei street several years back. However, a pair of speedo's was found hanging from a telephone pole with little bits of ass still in it...

Having read the syllabus, here are my 2 cents --

I'm much more impressed with Chief Justice Roberts than I ever was before. He managed this case like a true chief justice, forging alliances to carve out a careful path through the tangled maze of all that litigation. I'm not entirely sure about his motivations, but his skillset is in evidence.

The part about the mandate being declared a tax is a potential bombshell for the President, provided that the Right can portray it effectively as a tax on poor people who already cannot afford insurance. As I said above, that was exactly the part about the mandate that I didn't like from the start.

I was impressed by the Medicaid part of the decision as being particularly Solomonic. The states that opposed the law on the ground that it requires Medicaid expansion will be able to avoid the ultimate penalty if they don't comply. However, that might be a significant downside in terms of what the law will actually accomplish because the states most likely to not comply are probably the ones with the highest populations of poor people, who would otherwise have had hope to be covered. Ironically, under the mandate, these same people may be placed in a position where they would also have to pay more in taxes.

So, I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out. There are many battles still to be fought, not to mention the spectre of having employers decide in droves either to lay off workers or to stop carrying coverage altogether. If that happens before the election, it could easily destroy any political uptick that the President might get from having his law upheld.

And I suspect there are some employers who might not be above doing such a thing as a political move, just as I have always believed that many companies are not hiring precisely because they do not want to make the President look good.

I think it was Albany the other day who said he believed that Roberts might vote with the 4 liberals if Kennedy did so that he could control the opinion. Kennedy surprised me by not siding with Roberts, but I think there is strong evidence within the opinion itself that this is exactly what Roberts did.

However, a pair of speedo's was found hanging from a telephone pole with little bits of ass still in it...

You're killing me! ;o)))

That one really needed a warning label!

Thankfully, I had finished my Diet Coke or what a mess it would of been! LMFAO!

You're killing me!

Feisty - I'm killing you? Think of all the poor people that were running around the streets with entrails hanging off them. One woman found a very "tiny" object that authorities later confirmed as the man's penis.

CONGRATULATIONS TO PRESIDENT OBAMA ON THE HEALTH CARE BEING UPHELD

This is the morally right thing to do!!!!!!!

I'ma guessing that Speaker Boehner is already starting IMPEACHMENT proceedings of Chief justice John Roberts, the George Bush Pick to succeed William Renquist !

You Betcha !

Occupy SoggyBottom !

what a great day to be an AMERICAN!

Of course you're right... but this feisty liberal who worked her butt off for get HCR passed, is going to take a victory lap!

So Roberts finally did the right thing. There is that legacy after all.

Of course it is Constitutional. Founders used mandates in the first Congress about health insurance. I imagine they knew more about the Constitution than Joe in Albany, my friend bob, and our "expert" no joe.

Congratulations President Obama. You did the right thing in the face of considerable odds. It is sad that the right wing has told so many lies about the Act that the American people do not know how they have been helped!

This is a great day. We had a President that acted with determination and courage. So lacking from the Republicans.

NDD,

yes ,is is a good day. And Obama showed true leadership in spending his time and captial to provide ways for the uninsured to get affordable insurance.

But the Medicaid ruling will show for the first time which states really do care about their citizens. Or will they say no thank you for increasing the Medicaid rolls even though the feds will pay 100% for the first 10years?

what will the 26 states say?

Mn has opted in to increase Medicaid for its citizens.

Feisty, I hope to take one myself once the dust settles. For now, just content to breathe a huge sigh of relief. And get ready to work my own butt off to get President Obama his well-deserved second term!

GBM --

This is the morally right thing to do!!!!!!!

Well said!

A victory for the people! And as I write this, someone on the live feed is calling for all christians and religious people to stand against this law! What would Jesus do? Can we all spell "HYPOCRISY"?

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

A victory for the people! And as I write this, someone on the live feed is calling for all christians and religious people to stand against this law! What would Jesus do? Can we all spell "HYPOCRISY"?

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

didn't mean to post twice--what are the gremlins up to?

Amazing, isn't it nurse? And yet they will sit in church on Sunday, totally unaware of what Jesus' ministry was about.

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

Nurse......never was your tag line more true. We will always have to fight the evil forces within us so we are not destroyed by them.

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

Nurse......never was your tag line more true. We will always have to fight the evil forces within us so we are not destroyed by them.

"We have met the enemy and he is us!" Pogo by Walt Kelly

Nurse......never was your tag line more true. We will always have to fight the evil forces within us so we are not destroyed by them.

For Gosh sakes NEWSVINE....get your dam* act together and fix this gremlin problem. I am fed up with all these glitches

I apologize for the triple posts folks.

JoAnne - Good news :}

Who would have thought? All week I thought the mandate would have been struck down. But for some reason, this morning I had an inkling that Roberts would vote with the 4 liberals so as to not besmirch his image down through history.

I may still be critical of what was actually passed, felt a little like Lawrence O Donnell's commentary last night. The ACA could have been much better, but ....

As the song goes "If you can't be with the one you love, honey love the one your with."

I'm very happy. Pleased. Overjoyed. In such a good mood, I would even like to say I agree with Fiesty post 1.

Basically the Mandate was struck down. The 5 justices voting to uphold the provision changed it to a TAX, which Obama and the Democrats said it was not a TAX. So now we have the largest tax in American history levied, not by the congress, but by the Supreme Court.

YD

Man what a heartbreak of a loss for the Thunder, eh? At any rate, hooray for ACA!

Let's all curse the activist bench! (I kid.)

Clara - I am in a good mood. ACA upheld.

Now for the important discussion. Can the Supreme court overturn the officiating of the NBA finals. Even though they swept my Mavs, I was pulling for OKC. Durant such a class act. Lebron played like a monster, always liked his game. Still hate Dwayne Wade. Flops when you put a finger on him, cries when you breathe on him. Pretends he is hurt one play, then seconds later he jumps up when he sees he didn't get the call.

A couple of close games decided because the NBA wanted Lebron crowned. Wade practically punched Rondo (boston) in the head in overtime in the Semi's ensuring one win. James fouled Durant twice at the end of game 2 of the finals. Westbrook scored 43, (game 4) drove to the rim 20+ times and only goes to the line 3 times.

Don't worry your OKC are beast, if they stay together will run the rest for the foreseable future.

Did I say I still hate Wade. Sorry Grimey, but still have the Sports Hate for the Heat.

ahh,...the officiating. Def a 'game changer' (I may have even said, "of course you'll win games when the officials make sure you get to take 3-1 more shots"). But my team is young, motivated and capable. This should just make them hungrier.

HATED seeing LeBron crowned,...win some, lose some.

Yes, today is a good day to be an American! (and a VERY good day to be a LIBERAL American!)

Yes we can, and yes we did!

[The law is unconstitutional under the commerce clause!]

...yeabut...yrabut...yeabut...

WAH!

Now, back to probing, VaginalBob...

The LAW is CONSTITUTIONAL.

EOM

Bob in Virginia-5210392

The law is unconstitutional under the commerce clause!

Obama said it was not a tax...yet it is upheld only on the basis it is a tax, based on Justice Roberts vote.

Get over it vaginal probe Bob supporter. If our great President had used the word tax it would have been even more wrangling since you righties don't want to pay you taxes.

FYI: for all you lovers of the Constitution...

Harvard Law professor says early Congress mandated health insurance for seamen and gun ownership for most men

"In 1790, the first Congress, which was packed with framers, required all ship owners to provide medical insurance for seamen; in 1798, Congress also required seamen to buy hospital insurance for themselves. In 1792, Congress enacted a law mandating that all able-bodied citizens obtain a firearm."

http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2012/jan/13/einer-elhauge/harvard-law-professor-says-early-congress-mandated/

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pps; I knew Chief Justice John Roberts didn't want his legacy tainted after the Bush v Gore & Citizens United debacle.

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Fired Up

Beverly, m'dear! What a fine day! I am supposed to be elsewhere, but it can wait.

Beverly, m'dear! What a fine day! I am supposed to be elsewhere, but it can wait.

Bob is it really a tax if you don't have to pay it?

Only a republican like Vaginal Bob supports forcing mandated vaginal probes and unnecessary medical procedures and making poor women pay for them to access her constitutional rights but somehow health care needed by millions is bad.

Not bad for a community organizer...LMAO

Obama/Biden 2012

newday DAWNING...RETURNED

Beverly, m'dear! What a fine day! I am supposed to be elsewhere, but it can wait

Don't worry girlfriend

newday, Health Care isn't going anywhere. Take all the time you need.

I have registered to volunteer starting Monday evening in downtown Chicago. I'm so excited.

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Fired Up; Ready to go

Northstar

It looks like a complete, utter win. Doesn't seem to be any reason that states can challenge it when it is implemented in 2014 either.

ACA stays the law of the land.

Jody,Iowa & Pat, Boston and Fiesty:

I saw David Gregory this morning and was also puzzled by what seemed a negative tone.
I thought it was just me. And he has had this attitude for quite a while.
It doesn't bother me if he doesn't like the President's policies but as a professional journalist I should not be able to read this in his on-air demeanor.

He must have a massive headache right now.
Go away Gotcha Gregory!

He said it was a moral decision from Justice Roberts. It's what we all had hoped for. Moral decision

I always thought Judge Roberts had it in him...

Just wasn't sure if he would show us...

*HIGH FIVES* all around!

Yep, Pat. Roberts finally does the right thing. Word has been that he is getting concerned about that legacy thing.

Feisty, I'm stunned by this decision. Stunned. We up here were pretty sure this wouldn't go the right way for those who needed this legislation.

Repeal and replace no more. Or as Boehner said yesterday, repeal and nothing to replace it. Stuff it Boehner. Stuff it Romney.

newdayDAWNING, I think the legacy thing was important in Roberts' mind. Good point.

I'm stunned by this decision.

Same here Pat!

I was holding my breath & when it was announced let out a huge *YESSSS*!!!

So Andrea Mitchell reports Justice Roberts is the most important person in DC right now, and not the president? Why? Because he did the right thing?

President Obama is the most important person in DC. He is the only person standing between democracy and nut cases. Roberts has made some really bad decisions, in recent times.

Here he did the right thing. No question. But he doesn't always. My hat is off to him, but President Obama is the man right now. He won.

A HUGE shout out to my dear friend FEISTY!

I have read many comments from people on the right complaining that you are the first to post a comment. I really don't care who posts first, second or last. But it gets under the skin of the RWNJ's everyday.

Thankfully you were able to post first here today with a BANNER statement that was excellent.

Your joy and enthusiasm for the democrats and President Obama are admirable. When a person has a deep passion for politics and this country as you do, you deserve top billing on this site; especially for this article that so many conservative naysayers had stated many times right up to last night that the ACA would never be passed.

NEVER SAY NEVER AND LET THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT MARCH ON!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

I am mildly surprised that so many people are pleased that it will help the people that don't have medical insurance mainly,but it is not only for them but the most important piece of legislation for all of us.It will,I am sure, be refined many times but I am confident that it will be,in future times, President Obama's most remembered act.

A HUGE shout out to my dear friend FEISTY!

Thanks Brian!

You made this fiesty little redhead *blush*!

I am walking on air right now with this win!

You made this fiesty little redhead *blush*!

This is one time I am glad I was able to make someone blush! You deserve one of the biggest shout outs for all of your untiring support for one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had.

I just wish I could be in IL at this very minute so I could you a congratulatory hug!

You fend off the negativity of the RWNJ's everyday and you deserve the opportunity to be singing from the rooftops that the ACA passed. Even up to the minute before the ruling the RWNJ's were boasting that the bill would be defeated. Thankfully the many millions of Americans without health care will soon be able to get the care they so desperately need.

I am sure, be refined many times but I am confident that it will be,in future times,

@listoire - I too am very surprised that SCOTUS ruled in favor of all Americans by ensuring access to medical care. Their record of ruling in favor of American citizens has been piss poor since selecting Bush as president.

Now that they have ruled, it is time to wipe away the last two years of wasted GOP/TP rhetoric and time, and move into the territory of refining the law for improvements. We need a single payer option and stronger legislation aimed at reducing rising costs.

It would be nice to see the GOP/TP step up to the plate and offer ideas and solutions to improve the law vs. tearing the law down. However, something tells me they will stay bitter and continue their NO, NO, NO mantra.

and ironically, David Gregory was extremely QUICK to point out it wasn't a MORAL decision; but rather a Constitutional One,...LOL.

Oh, dear, sweet Gregory - your partisan britches are showing!

Joseph,

You will need 60 votes in the Senate to repeal it – the President cannot do it by himself.

He can defang it like Obama did it with the young illegals but he alone cannot repeal it.

The GOP keeps accusing President Obama of over-reaching and behaving like a dictator...and now you want Romney to use presidential power to overturn a constitutional law....Dennis is right you'll need 60 votes in the senate.

Finally.

Now congress can begin having serious discussions on how to improve the bill. Stop the partison posturing and begin proposing amendments to making it better. Repubs should propose tort reform and their other favorites that aren't already in the bill.

Since the ruling involved looking at the bill as a tax, should they be looking at tax reform? It's something many have been clamoring for anyway, so they should get right on it.

Then we need National ID cards. With the id cards and a link to a national database, we should be able to guard against voter fraud, various healthcare frauds, and illegal immigrants.

Joseph E. Parent - there will be no First Day of a Romney Presidency. He will not be elected. You also were sure the Healthcare law would be declared unconstitutional. You're not the best at predicting. Don't go buying all the bubbly for November - unless you just want to drown your sorrows!

Obama/Biden 2012 because they're best for the USA

Pat Boston MA.

So Andrea Mitchell reports Justice Roberts is the most important person in DC right now, and not the president? Why? Because he did the right thing?

Pat, I pay little attention to Mrs. Allen Greenspan. She gets her talking points straight from the e-mails the republiCONS send her blackberry.

If I had a blackerry it would be ozzing sweet juices from my leftie friends.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Thanks Brian!

You made this fiesty little redhead *blush*!

What am I girlfriend; chopped liver?

I'm jealous

What am I girlfriend; chopped liver?

You're my liberal Chi-Town sister!

You know I ♥ you GF!

I'm waiting by the mailbox for my rebate check from my insurance company!!

How does he do that - it's Congress's responsibility. Remember the Constitution?

It reaffirms my belief in the Supreme Court. It seems like it's been a long time since they've made a decision on constitutional law and not politics!

How about that Mickey!

Newday...and here all the "experts" here thought Roberts was "one of them"...I am surprised about Kennedy, though...oh well...just shows to go you, one never knows, do one...

Enjoy the day

And we have quite the day to enjoy!

I think public opinion will switch on this quickly, now that the Constitutional argument is over.

Especially since Roberts was the one to put his imprimatur on it.

And yes, we will! Obama/Biden 2012

I sure hope not. All he has done was borrow money, raise taxes and terrible plans over these 4 years. And before anyone says anything no I am not Republican. I actually was for Obama and he has been a terrible president thus far. This passing will kill people in their bank accounts. There will be a tax hike and I am in the middle class. Last thing I want to do it pay for other people's health insurance by tax money coming out of my check every month. Remember people thise survived as a tax.

As a tax penalty; that's different than as a tax. Funny thing. I was a republican until George Bush; and I think Obama has been a fantastic president....just ask Osama Bin Laden.

Job1

Yes we can, and yes we did!

Let's celebrate with a little music.

Congratulations, Mr. President. -Lyrics- It was a creed written into the founding documents that declared the destiny of a nation. / Yes we can

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY

Obama - Biden 2012!

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Fired Up Ready to Go!!!!

Opps, almost forgot has anyone seen the looks on the faces of the idiots over @ the RepubliCON/T-Bagger Headquarters aka FOX NOISE?

Sueb1 - Osama says he's really busy - and hot - and can't answer right now!

Shane6783

I sure hope not. All he has done was borrow money, raise taxes and terrible plans over these 4 years. And before anyone says anything no I am not Republican. I actually was for Obama and he has been a terrible president thus far. This passing will kill people in their bank accounts. There will be a tax hike and I am in the middle class. Last thing I want to do it pay for other people's health insurance by tax money coming out of my check every month. Remember people thise survived as a tax.

Sure you aren't a Republican, Shane, I believe that like I believe you actually voted for O'bama. You even work the GOP mantra of how it is wrong to increase taxes into your rant. We ALL pay for the uninsured in the form of HIGHER hospital bills. If you are covered by health insurance already, you will not pay a PENNY in tax. If you are not covered insurance will be easier to get, and if you cannot afford it, a pool of funds will be out there to ensure you are covered.

Sean Hannity must be having apoplexy!!!!

Just saw Jim Talent trying to spin it. He was clearly dumbfounded and did not come up with a coherent sentence.

Hey, where is our "expert" no jo this day?

Sean Hannity can kiss my liberal a$$.

Wow you actually said something besides yes we can, and yes we did

congratulations libs on your supreme court win. i thought it was bad workin having to support 3 people on my back, now the court is forcing more. like the stock market today, looks like the producers will just give up. WHAT WILL YOU DO THEN, TRY AND GET MONEY FROM A LIBERAL!? LOL! OVER 100 POINT LOSS IN 10 MINUTES.

I LIKE MOST BUSINESS OWNERS WILL CLOSE MY BUSINESS IF THIS AHOLE IN CHIEF GETS REELECTED

The RWNJs are probably absolutely speechless (TG)....probably even Laugball doesn't know what to say....I'm sure they will come up with some nonesensical but..but...rebuttal...

rightisright - and for every idiot who closes their business (not one will because of an election unless they're a total moron - oooops! sorry!) three new businesses will open!

Thank you President Obama and the Supreme Court!

rightisright-5861504

congratulations libs on your supreme court win. i thought it was bad workin having to support 3 people on my back, now the court is forcing more. like the stock market today, looks like the producers will just give up. WHAT WILL YOU DO THEN, TRY AND GET MONEY FROM A LIBERAL!? LOL! OVER 100 POINT LOSS IN 10 MINUTES.

I LIKE MOST BUSINESS OWNERS WILL CLOSE MY BUSINESS IF THIS AHOLE IN CHIEF GETS REELECTED

You are a shining example of American exceptionalism. Oh, if i don't get my way i'm going to take my ball and go home... close your business and pout like a 5 year old, another will fill the void as that is what the 'free market' is about.

SURE, LIKE ANYof you lib idiots know what it takes to run a business.

and to seeking sanity, you really are dumb. bemand was cut in half, so there is no room for any new business, cause there isnt enough business for the ones still around. there will be less demand when you stupid f ing morons go looking for your handout and noone is there to give you one.

the depression lasted 14 years due to a communist in the white house. it wont happen again.

I keep thinking of all the people out there who have pre-existing conditions. Could you imagine how they feel today knowing that they haven't been thrown to the wolves.

Spoken like someone without a pre-existing condition.

You HAVE been paying for other people's health care, Shane, in the most expensive way possible. The uninsured use ER's That is what is driving the cost up.

Now, people will be able to access affordable health care, and it will help YOU.

Why should I have to pay for other people's healthcare by a way of a tax? Taxes are already high enough. If you actually read my post sue you will see I stated there does need to be some HCR aka Health Care Reform. But not like this.

Newday you make a good point but this survived because they classified it as a tax. I guess I will wait and see how much taxes will go up. I said their needs to be HCR but not by these means.

Shane6783 - they can work to improve this law if both sides put aside their stupidity and remember they work for the people - not their own specific party. Remember, the Republicans were in charge for a long time and did NOTHING about healthcare. The minute President Obama's plan was put forward they whined they could do better. They still have come up with NOTHING!

Before you complain about the President, you should be damned angry at the Republicans who have done NOTHING but sit on their hands as far as healthcare goes. They have no one to blame but themselves for their inaction.

The only "shady" things done were by the GOP and for once it didn't work!

Try blaming the correct people.

The problem is, Shane, that given the people that President Obama had to deal with, this is the best that could get through at this time.

As people find out how they are helped by this legislation, I imagine that we will see improvements.

Shane/ It is a good thing for everyone ,except some of the present 1% who will still be going to their medical Dr.'s but we will still be going to the Dr.'s of our choice and we will be paying still, for those unfortunates who are unable to pay for their share of taxes . For the foreseeable future the poor will still be with us.

Shane-

If you have Medical Insurance, you ALREADY pay for the uninsured person's healthcare - your rates absorb the costs of those who go to the emergency room, etc without insurance.

Since the ACA requires EVERYONE to get insurance or pay the fee/tax this should take at least some of the burden of healthcare off of those who have insurance.

The "tax" should be only on the uninsured, not those who are currently paying for health insurance.

Lets not forget that we pay for the uninsured through our property taxes as well.

Ha-ha!!!

whats stopping you now? close your business NOW. You can't stand the tax cuts for small business in the recovery act? Or the tax cut you'll get if you provide health care benefits to your employees?

If I understand you. you have three employee "on your back". If thats the way you see your employees...you should close your business.

You people who hate Liberals. A question.Do you hate Liberal Conservatives or only we liberal Democrats?

The SCOTUS said no such thing, and neither did the CBO.

You sir - are a liar!

blearyeyed - Bob in Virginia has nothing but lies to fall back on. It's the benchmark of the GOP - lie, lie, lie!

Bob-

Please explain how this is a "massive tax increase on the middle class"?

If you already have health insurance, no "tax".

If you can't afford to buy health insurance, you can get a subsidy - no "tax".

If you can afford to purchase health insurance but choose not to - "tax".

I thought personal responsibility - paying for your own health insurance - was right up the conservative alley?

The GOP can now properly attack Obamacare as the most massive tax increase on the middle class in history..

What massive tax increase? FYI, Reagan owns the title of passing the largest middle-class tax in history. Obama lowered taxes for the middle class.

Bob, my friend: you are sounding awfully bitter this day:

Now, say it with me. Congratulations President Obama on getting HCR done, something that has been tried and unsuccessful since 1912.

You can do it, I know you can.

newday - Bob had already typed his gloating submission days ago and now he had to put it all away. He's VERY bitter! We won't get to see his smarmy masterpiece!

With you on that, Layton. Also, waiting for our "expert" on everything, no jo.

Or, will they stay silent?

newday - I'm sure no joe, will come along with some hate-filled agonizing piece of garbage any minute. Do you think Spanky (who kept saying he KNEW it was going to be thrown out) is drowning himself in Mexico???

Obama/Biden 2012

I don't read Spanky's post, brain cells die if you waste too much time with him. But will be sure to when a post shows up on this.

newday, I'm the same way with the BigBenAlaska guy ... I've had him on ignore since I read his first post! :)

Yep, me too, Layton!

I think all the "nobamas" are glued to Fox so they can get their talking points lined up. I can hear them now.....kinda like Shane6783.

I suggested to someone earlier that they should move away from fox - after all, fox tried to pass Mark Foley off as a Democrat when he was caught with his pants down. Lying underhanded fox tv. They have no shame.