Polls: Obama, Romney neck-and-neck in Michigan, North Carolina, New Hampshire

A new round of NBC News-Marist polls shows President Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney running almost neck-and-neck in three key battleground states, with Obama holding a slight advantage in Michigan and North Carolina, and the two candidates tied in New Hampshire.

Click here to read the NBC News/Marist Poll of New Hampshire

In Michigan, Obama is ahead by four percentage points among registered voters, including those who are undecided but are still leaning toward a candidate, 47 to 43 percent.

Click here to read the NBC News/Marist Poll of Michigan

In North Carolina, the president gets 46 percent to Romney's 44 percent, which is within the survey's margin of error.
And in New Hampshire, the two men are tied at 45 percent each.

Click here to read the NBC News/Marist Poll of North Carolina

"Everything is very close," says Lee Miringoff, the director of Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted these surveys.

In 2008, Obama won Michigan and New Hampshire – which had been competitive states in previous presidential elections – by double-digit margins. And he carried North Carolina, a reliably Republican state since 1980, by just 14,000 votes.


In all three states, Obama's approval rating remains above water -- or right on the surface. In Michigan, 48 percent of registered voters approve of his job, while 42 percent disapprove.

In New Hampshire, it's 47 to 45 percent, and in North Carolina it's 47 to 47 percent.

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As for Romney, his favorability rating is upside down in two of the three states. In Michigan, 37 percent say they have favorable impression of the former Massachusetts governor, and 43 percent have an unfavorable opinion. In North Carolina, Romney's fav/unfav is 40-42 percent.

The lone exception is in New Hampshire – which borders Massachusetts, and where Romney owns a home – it's even at 45-45 percent.

Mixed results on the economy
The issue of the economy is a mixed bag in each of these three states, as well.

Majorities say the country is headed in the wrong direction, but nearly equal majorities believe that Obama inherited the current economic conditions.

In Michigan, the president holds a narrow edge over Romney, 44 to 42 percent, when it comes to which candidate would do a better job handling the economy.

Romney, meanwhile, leads on this question in New Hampshire, 46 to 42 percent. And they are tied in North Carolina, at 43 percent.

"The economy plays both ways in all three states," Miringoff says.

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In New Hampshire, adding Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) to the GOP presidential ticket doesn't improve Romney's standing in the Granite State.

A Romney-Ayotte team won the support of 43 percent of registered voters, versus 45 percent for Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

In a hypothetical contest for Michigan's Senate seat, incumbent Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow leads former Republican Rep. Pete Hoekstra by 12 points among registered voters, 49 to 37 percent.

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And in North Carolina's gubernatorial contest, former Charlotte Mayor Pat McCrory, the Republican nominee, gets 43 percent, while Democratic Lt. Gov. Walter Dalton gets 41 percent.

These three NBC-Marist surveys were conducted June 24-25 by landline and cell phone of 1,078 registered voters in Michigan, 1,029 registered voters in New Hampshire and 1,019 registered voters in North Carolina.

The margin of error for the New Hampshire and North Carolina poll is plus-minus 3.1 percentage points, and it's 3.0 percentage points in Michigan.

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It seems like it is getting harder and harder for the MSM to spin these poll results into something resembling a close election...If this becomes a runaway, they know that the campaign ad money from both sides is going to dry up...

  • 42 votes
#1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:04 AM EDT
Comment author avatarrockmebritneyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

if romney wins, i'm renouncing my citizenship and moving to a country like afganistan, because living under the tailban would be far better than being the citizen of a country run by a mormon dictator.

id be happy to tell you all that mormons think they are the only ones going to heaven and that everyone else is going to H3LL. the religion was also founded by a murderer. not really the kind of guy i want making my decisions for me.

  • 34 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:19 AM EDT

@Britney

That sounds like a very sound strategy...that way you win either way...Turn America into Afghanistan or Migrate to Afghanistan...just one Question?? Do you have to take the rest of us with you??

  • 41 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:24 AM EDT

I've been told to go to hell by a lot of liberals, but never a Mormon. Guess I just haven't met a nasty one yet....anyway...I hope you enjoy your new life abroad. I'm sure of one thing....the Afghan's won't tell you to go to hell, but they'll be happen to send you there.

  • 63 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:28 AM EDT
Comment author avatarbigfinn-4815102Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

rockmebritney - when the general public really starts to pay attention and finds out the level of "freak" that Romney is he'll be done. Plus he'll be fried in the debates - objectively he's got the oratory skills of paint drying - he's painful to listen to regardless of what comes out of his mouth. At least Obama is liked as a person by the majority (except of course for the extreme base of the right who'd loathe Christ himself if he were running for office as a Democrat).

Just wait until details of his Mormon beliefs start to come out - and this includes Harry Reid too - the 14 tenants of Mormonism. Jesus coming from another planet will keep most Christians on the right at home in November notwithstanding magic Mormon underwear.

  • 28 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:35 AM EDT
JaneEcoDeleted
Comment author avatarjpegExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Sorry bigfinn, obama's an even bigger failure without his teleprompter.

  • 55 votes
#1.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:44 AM EDT

Really Jane, care to cite a source where he outsourced jobs to China? I can cite where Apple and G.E...two HUGE obama supporters both outsourced jobs to China, India, and other parts of the world.

  • 53 votes
#1.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:50 AM EDT
Comment author avatarsharriannie-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@rockme

start packing. obummer is such a failure, he twists, spins and blames everyone. i think the american people are getting sick of his arrogant, spiteful and deceiving attitude. always blaming someone or something because he can't do the job.

Romney 2012

  • 53 votes
#1.9 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:55 AM EDT
Comment author avatarmowdy5gsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Mr. Romney had his wealth handed to him and then used it to make more off of investments. President Obama worked his way up from a broken home and did it the hard way. That's why he works and pulls his weight in the White House. The tea bagging republican extremist do nothing, they get paid a couple hundred thousand a year to do NOTHING. They wouldn't no work if it introduced itself.. ; ]

Furthermore Mr. Romney will lose. That's what he does he loses. Hes been running for office for how long now? President Obama did it the first time around. I think we all know who knows what works about . ;] That's why Obama is the guy who presented a jobs plan mainly to do with infrastructure. The goper's have done nothing as usual. Get paid to sit around and go on vacation. Not one government jobs bill.

Cheers

  • 26 votes
#1.10 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:58 AM EDT
Comment author avatarrockmebritneyExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

@hugh akston... i'm morally bankrupt eh? what about joseph smith? how about women serve their men on earth and if they do it well the men will pull them through to heaven? what about storing 2 years worth of food in your basement so that if theres a disaster everyone else will die but the mormons will flourish? ANDDD for the record, mormons DO believe they are the only ones going to heaven. oh, and they are also REQUIRED to have 5 kids... and it wasnt until a few years ago that blacks were even allowed into the religion. but yes, I'M the morally bankrupt one.

  • 20 votes
#1.11 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:58 AM EDT

rockmebritney

if romney wins, i'm renouncing my citizenship and moving to a country like afganistan, because living under the tailban would be far better than being the citizen of a country run by a mormon dictator.

Goodbye, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out and don't forget to say hi to Karzai for the rest of us, they're going to love you over there!

  • 44 votes
#1.12 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:59 AM EDT
Comment author avatarask252Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

JANE ECO :

I doubt you are reading this but let's get some facts straight. 1. Obama's Job Czar Immel exported more jobs than any 10 companies combined. You should look it up. In fact GE under his watch was one of the first innovator's of this. Secondly, about three quarters of what has been spent from the 800 billion stimulus was spent on jobs overseas. But it's ok if Obama does it right.

  • 44 votes
#1.13 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:08 AM EDT

jpeg- i believ it was the washington post who pointed it out that when Romney was running Bain he outsourced jobs to china and india, and the campaign doesnt deny it except they call it "offshoring" whatever the hell that means, and reason its pertinent is Romney says he will stop china from taking our jobs. and as far as i know Apple and GE are not running for president

  • 25 votes
#1.14 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:08 AM EDT
Comment author avatarFedupwithFedExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Britney, since you are in Israel, I don't think you need to worry about denouncing your citizenship. As an arab muslim, perhaps you will be much happier in Afghanistan anyway. BTW, Israel is NOT an Arab country!

rockmebritney

this story is BS. all this family did was put religion ahead of a better life, better education, and everything else. soon they'll realize its an arab country and flee like the other 99.8% of americans who migrate to israel do when they try to be "religiously interesting." nice to know you care more about god than your own kids' future. religious with 3 girls, you'll surely have them married off as virgins at 18 so they can carry out their "obligations" of being baby making housewives. (and yes, as a non-jew working in israel for the last 5 years, i know what i'm talking about. i've seen it with my own eyes)

#1.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:12 AM EDT

Having just returned from 2 weeks in Israel, the Jews there do not like Obama, but the Palestinians do! Wonder why?

  • 37 votes
#1.15 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:09 AM EDT
Comment author avatarjpegExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

President Obama worked his way up from a broken home and did it the hard way..........

Did you miss the part about being raised by his rich grandmother. The man has NEVER worked for anything in his life!

  • 46 votes
#1.16 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:10 AM EDT
Comment author avatarjpegExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Man in fla

jpeg- i believ it was the washington post who pointed it out that when Romney was running Bain he outsourced jobs to china and india

Bain capital is an investment capital company, they do not outsource jobs. They buy bankrupt companies and attempt to turn them around.

As far as Apple and G.E not running for president, they support the one who is in office and have partnered with him to do exactly what you complain about...OUTSOURCE!

  • 33 votes
#1.17 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:15 AM EDT

In response to moving to Afghanistan, you may want to rethink that option.

No point in losing your head over a rash decision.....

By the way, how did Feisty miss being first on this thread?

  • 27 votes
#1.18 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:17 AM EDT

@CPO

Romney is starting to slip, MSNBC had to call off the dogs...If he doesn't turn it around soon, they may actually be forced to report on President Obama...

  • 10 votes
#1.19 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 AM EDT

Oh ya the Muslim brotherhood is a whole lot better.

What a fool.

  • 17 votes
#1.20 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:27 AM EDT

CPO... apparently he/she/it had a few to many last night in preparation for the obama crushing SCOTUS decision.

  • 15 votes
#1.21 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:27 AM EDT
JaneEcoDeleted

There are a lot of loud pronouncements regarding the upcoming election. Everybody is sure of the result, and terrified by the alternative.

Obama has not been nearly as bad a President as some of his more shrill critics claim, and all of real crazies and border-line, mental defectives on the Republican side are out now [Caine, Perry, Bachmann & Santorum].

Personally, I can live with the election of either candidate. We survived Bush. Romney could hardly be as bad. Despite his self-characterization of himself as a "severe conservative", he is a pragmatist, who sets his ideological sails to the prevailing political winds. I don't like him, but, if elected, he won't be serving as my best friend.

As to Obama, his biggest mistake over the last 3.5 years was the championing of his half-baked health care reform. He has not been able to turn the economy around enough to satisfy large numbers of voters. But, in judging him, we should look around the world. The global economy continues to be troubled, and many places, such as Europe and Japan, are in much worse shape than the U.S.

So what will happen in November? Barring some major terrorist attack here at home, it will all revolve around the economy. If the sluggish recovery gains strength, Obama will win. If not, he may well lose.

That is it in a nutshell.

  • 6 votes
#1.23 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:33 AM EDT
Comment author avatarsandtrichExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Since President Obama did not craft Healthcare Reform--yet the right continues to call it "Obamacare"--can we officially call Iraq and Afghanistan Bush/Cheney Wars? Romney's healthcare plan for Mass. was the template that Congress used for the soon to be struck down Healthcare Reform.

President Obama promised to close Gitmo but every Congress member screamed--no Gitmo prisoners in my district.

President Obama ended the Iraq war, which Romney said that he wouldn't have done.

TARP 1 and 2 happened on Bush's watch and the economy was on the verge of total collapse. Had President Obama not stepped up and saved US jobs and businesses, we would have collapsed and unemployment would be 50%.

Romney has promised to increase the budget and scope of our military, while continuing to hack away at the domestic budget. That creates debt--not jobs. Romney has had a career of crushing businesses and scattering them to the wind. Let's see if Congress will do the responsible thing and cut Defense.

Obama-Biden is the logical choice for 2012.

  • 15 votes
#1.24 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

JaneEco...(#1.22)...."Where as governor, his state was 47 out of 50 on job creation!"

Perhaps they didn't need as many jobs "created"...

When he was Governor, Massachusetts Unemployment rate was at or below the national average.....It went from 5.6% to 4.6% ....That is nearly what is know as "Full Employment"( You can google it, I won't try to explain it to you)....So, not too bad for a Republican Governor with a Democrat Legislature in a Blue State....

  • 27 votes
#1.25 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:52 AM EDT

It's a darn shame that people like rockmebritney don't follow through with their hot air. Baldwin made the same claim about Bush, and gosh, darn, he's still here. But, I don't doubt that these people would rather live under the Taliban since we've got the next best thing in the WH already.

It's funny the selective rage the left has. Bush was bashed mercilessly because it was better to overlook a democrat mayor who didn't order the buses into operation to help the city's citizens escape Katrina and the democrat mayor and democrat governor refused to ask the federal government for assistance. So, these types of catastrophes were to be addressed so it doesn't happen again. Now, Colorado and Utah have been burning burning for a while and what does our fearless leader do? Well, he's scheduled a flyover and nary a word in the lib press. Of course, if it was a repub in office he'd be bashed fearlessly, just like they did Bush. We've already seen this scenario from this president. The speed with which Obama acted to contain the oil spill was simply amazing. This allowed it to built into to the great catastrophe of the 21st century. Of course, it was a crying shame that fizzled out into being one of the biggest non-events of the century, but at great cost to BP and the oil industry in this country. Can't let it be said that this administration won't take advantage of a crisis, even if they have to create it to take care of it. Oh, that kind of reminds me of fast and furious. We've got to get the guns off the streets and crack down on the 2nd Amendment rights. Opps, well..... never mind that we put the guns in the hands of the criminals in the first place. Oh well, life goes on in the new normal.

  • 19 votes
#1.26 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:53 AM EDT

Let me be clear, transparent if you wish. NO BAMA 2012. Crystal?

  • 25 votes
#1.27 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:57 AM EDT

sandtrich ...(#1.24).."Since President Obama did not craft Healthcare Reform--yet the right continues to call it "Obamacare"--"

Well, if Obama didn't craft ObamaCare and the Democrats in Congress didn't craft ObamaCare.....who did ???

I'll tell you....It was a legislative proposal crafted by the Hospital Corporations lobby, the Insurance Company lobby, the Pharmaceutical Company lobby, AARP, the AMA (Doctors that graduated at the bottom of the class in Med School) and Lawyers...

After all the wheeling and dealing in the basement of The Whitehouse......All they had to do is get Sponsors in the Senate and House...Reid and Pelosi gladly obliged....And then bribed enough of their own to get the votes to pass it.

  • 17 votes
#1.28 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:06 AM EDT
Comment author avatarredvirginiaExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

because living under the tailban would be far better than being the citizen of a country run by a mormon dictator

Here we go, the desperation of the Obama camp is turning in to religious persecution, the religious bigots from the left already forgot the Muslim faith of president Obama. Bunch of haters couldn't resist for to llong before to start with thowing garbage. You can go to hell if you want , better of stay away from people like you bunch of losers.

Is getting harder for Obama to convince Americans that his policies and his administration is not a failure, hard to convince that 4 more years of the same will make a difference.

  • 20 votes
#1.29 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:09 AM EDT

I see the party of tolerance and open minded thinking is now ok with bashing Mormons as well as Christians and Jews. Talk about radical Muslims and you will be labeleda bigot, Islamaphob, and intolerant, but feel free to talk trash about the rest of the religions who don't tie bombs to their children, who don't hijack airplanes, who don't beat and kill their women.

I will vote for Romney mainly because of his views and his successes, but people like rockmebritney make me want to vote for him just to piss people like her off.

  • 21 votes
#1.30 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:13 AM EDT
Comment author avatarItsAboutTime-3704531Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hello.. I am the Candidate Mittens.. you are getting very sleepy...... You do NOT notice that my policies are just like Bush Jr. You do NOT see that tax breaks for the wealthy and less regulations for banks will be good for me and my friends.. but very bad for you.

Obama/Biden 2012..

  • 13 votes
#1.31 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:15 AM EDT

Hey Mike who gives a s%^& who crafted it he was the only person in a position to pass it and make it a law. Therefore it is bammycare.

  • 11 votes
#1.32 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:17 AM EDT

jpeg,

Please show me the source for your 'rich grandmother' statement. It is my understanding that his grandmother worked in a bank for 26 years and his grandfather was a furniture salesman. They had an apartment in Hawaii, not a big fancy house/mansion. They were middle class. President Obama attended private schools on scholarships, and had scholarships and student loans for college. But, hey, if you have credible sources (you do know that Rush, Glenn and Bill O' are NOT credible sources, right?) then please post them.

  • 11 votes
#1.33 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:18 AM EDT

OBAMA wants to divide the United States into Latino and non-Latino.

He wants another CIVIL WAR!

  • 12 votes
#1.34 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:23 AM EDT

jpeg

Bain capital is an investment capital company, they do not outsource jobs. They buy bankrupt companies and attempt to turn them around.

No.. Bain capital bankrupted successful companies, fired all of their workers, and then ran with tax payer money.

  • Michael Rumbin, a vice president for technology management at Dade told the Los Angeles Times, “My experience at Dade during those Bain Capital years was that it was strictly an investment, not to create jobs.” Rumbin

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/01/09/400404/romney-bain-bankrupts-billions/

http://www.romneygekko.com/mitt/

  • 9 votes
#1.35 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:24 AM EDT
Comment author avatarsandtrichExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

AppeasersFate

OBAMA wants to divide the United States into Latino and non-Latino.

He wants another CIVIL WAR!

The right has always came up with catchy names for the delusional games they play--"The Cold War," "Axis of Evil", etc. Get a new game plan because you guys have no platform on which to run.

  • 12 votes
#1.36 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

mowdy5gsMr. Romney had his wealth handed to him and then used it to make more off of investments

If you are going to slam the opponent at least get your facts straight. Romney father left the bulk of his estate to BYU. He left some to Romney who turned around and gave it to charity. By the time Romney's father died, Mitt was already a millionaire from his own successful career. He didn't need the money.

Its funny how Romney's net worth bothers libs, but Obama & Biden's don't. As always, libs use a double standard when trying to make a point.

Polls show, no one cares about their Net Worth, nor their religion, neither one of them. All people care about is whether they can get the job done. The person in office right now can't seem to get the job done. And in his own words, if he can't get the job done, he needs to be a one term president.

  • 15 votes
#1.37 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

Best source right now for the most polls is Dave Liep's site. All the rest have a limited selection of polls that they are using, yes even RCP.

I just re-checked all states that are close with polls this morning. When you elminate the "P" (People) and the "RV" (Registered Voter Polls) and use only LV (Likely Voters) and averaging the 3 - 5 most current polls not older than The EC count is 266 - 266 as it became about 1 week ago.

That said, Registered voters will tell the democrats if they can win IF they can get their base out.

    #1.38 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

    A loony Libbie is moving out of the country? Oh goody!

    • 17 votes
    #1.39 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:36 AM EDT

    It's about time.

    100% of all businesses aquired by Bain Capital were already Bankrupt. 80% of those companies aquired by Bain Capital are still operating today. Some are smaller and leaner, some about the same size, but most have grown and have more than made up for any jobs lost.

    ThinkProgress purpose is to assault capitalism under the cover of being a "truth telling organization".

    Progress is about building, not ripping things that work apart.

    • 11 votes
    #1.40 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

    Bob Jones-3591206 ...(#1.32)...."Hey Mike who gives a s%^& who crafted it he was the only person in a position to pass it and make it a law. Therefore it is bammycare."

    Relax....did you miss the part where I said it was crafted in the Basement of the WhiteHouse ??....All I did was point out why it's called OBAMACARE....and Joe Biden confirms that with his " "This is a big f-----n' deal,''.....after the signing ceremony of Obama's "Signature Legislation"...his legacy enshrined...

    • 9 votes
    #1.41 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:37 AM EDT

    Looks like Obama is ahead and the attack ads are working.

    Even if health care is defeated, all we have from Romney are vague promises without specifics (as with all issues).

    Can you trust the GOP to "replace" health care? They are already saying they don't need to do it anytime soon.

    • 7 votes
    #1.42 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

    Personnally I don't do surveys or poles, they are only samplings and answers given out as a % figure. A percentage figure is a wonderful thing, it can be tweaked around to make you think it says one thing, when the real answer goes the opposite way.

    I offer this, I drove an 18 wheeler for several years. at the end of a run I would have to figure out a varience of miles, based on the miles I was given and the actual miles I drove. If my actual miles were less than given miles I would have to do what was neccessary to get driven miles higher than given miles. I got paid by miles driven but could not come out with. We used % figures to make this work.

    • 1 vote
    #1.43 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:43 AM EDT

    whenever someone wants you to check out a website like 'romneygecko' they lose all credibility as an 'informed voter', lol they too should leave the country!

    Romney/Rubio 2012.... now more than ever!

    Here's my plan for culling the liberals:

    A. Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.
    B. Allow those women who want to marry women, marry women.
    C. Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.
    D. In three generations, there will be no Democrats.

    I love it when a plan comes together.

    • 12 votes
    #1.44 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:45 AM EDT

    sandtrichThe right has always came up with catchy names for the delusional games they play--"The Cold War," "Axis of Evil", etc. Get a new game plan because you guys have no platform on which to run.

    The term "Cold War" was introduced in 1947 by americans Journalist & speech writer Bernard Baruch. Who was also an advisor to Roosevelt & Truman (democrats).

    The term "Axis of Evil" also came from a journalist & speech writer David Frum who came up with the term after reading Roosevelt's Pearl Harbor speech "date which will live in infamy". Frum was a speech writer for Bush II.

    People need to get a friggin education and actually learn about their subject before they post it!

    • 6 votes
    #1.45 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

    Let's forget about Obama Bankrupting a Nation. Focus on Bain.

    Let's forget Obama's "God Damn America" religion. Focus on Mormons.

    Let's forget that unreasonably harsh regulation, taxation, and failure to negotiate fair trade with China that is "outsourcing" more jobs than any single company. Focus on Bain.

    Let's pretend that anyone who isn't Obama is George W. Bush. Hate Bush.

    Let's pretend that all women will have a much better life as long as there are government subsidized abortions. There's a War on Women.

    Okay, but I still have a problem with a large intrusive federal government.

    • 15 votes
    #1.46 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

    ItsAboutTime-3704531 Why would Bain capital invest in a successful company and how would they gain control of a successful company? It doesn't work that way.

    Successful companies don't leave themselves open to takeover bids and Bain capital does not spend billions buying stock in successful companies in an attempt to do hostile takeovers.

    Try citing a REAL source next time....Think Progress? REALLY?

    • 8 votes
    #1.47 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

    DBAKron

    Sources? I have already produced 2 sources and there is a lot more.

    Progress is not taking a successful company, saddling it with large debt, firing all the workers, filing for bankruptcy, and then going to the american people for a handout.

    jpeg

    Ask Romney that same question and then produce a source that shows the answer.

    If you have a better source, by all means, post it here :-).

    TexasT-2966501

    I wouldn't be to concerned if a 'libby' moves out of the country. Doesn't Perry want to leave the Union too, but comes running back for a handout when a natural disaster hits Texas?

    • 6 votes
    #1.48 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:50 AM EDT

    Get serious. NBC is 'in the tank' for Obama, so I wouldn't believe any poll involving them.

    Also, polls of Registered Voters fail to take into account the 'Likely Voter' spread, which favors the Republicans by about 4% - case in point - In 2004, polls of Registered Voters had Kerry ahead by 2% just before the election, but polls of Likely Voters had Bush ahead by 2% - Bush won the actual vote by 2.5%. This 'spread' can vary from about 2% (2008) to 6% (2010), depending upon the 'enthusiasm' factor, and it doesn't look like the Democrats are very enthused right now.

    The biggest problem for Obama is the 'trend', which shows Obama trailing down and Romney gaining each month.

    • 12 votes
    #1.49 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

    So, this means -- with the New York Times' 4 point adjustment towards the more conservative candidate between "registered" voters and actual voters -- that Romney in reality is tied with Obama in Michigan, ahead of Obama by 2 points in North Carolina, and ahead by 4 point in Hew Hampshire.

    • 3 votes
    #1.50 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

    ItsAboutTime-3704531 " Bain capital bankrupted successful companies, fired all of their workers, and then ran with tax payer money."

    Nonsense. Venture capitalists don't make their money on companies by putting them out of business - they lose their 'venture capital' when that happens. It's risky business, which is why they make so much money when they are successful (Staples, etc.), but risky also means that some will fail - or everybody would do it.

    It would be easy to find a few failures and dwell on them, but the fair thing to do is look at the overall results (good and bad), and when you do that, Bail Capital has an excellent record of net job growth - unlike Obama, where we still have 1.3 million fewer people working than when Obama took office, along with about 5 million net new workers entering the workforce, only to find few job opportunities.

    Anybody that looks at Obama's record for his first 3.5 years has to conclude;

    Obama is a huge failure as President.

    PS - Bain is a PRIVATE company, so no 'taxpayer' funds are involved, unlike Obama's attempt at 'venture capital' with SOLYNDRA using taxpayer money, where he lost over $500 million of taxpayer money - but got lots of personal campaign contributions from its owners.

    • 8 votes
    #1.51 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

    ROY WILSON-336103

    In some cases, businesses were loaded up with debt, wages were cuts and, as the business failed, Bain Capital walked away with employees’ pension funds and millions in profits. Workers were left without jobs, health care, and retirement savings.

    http://pollways.bangordailynews.com/2012/06/10/maine-politics/romneys-bain-profiting-from-failure/

    Public funds were USED by Romney via something called "BANKRUPTCY Protection"

    Obama is not a huge failure and certainly not as bad as his predecessor. When Obama took office, all the seeds to create the "great recession" were already growing. To abjudicate Obama without examing the ENTIRE situation is absurd.

    There is no way any President or Congress could resolve in 3.5 years what has taken decades to create. When are the republicans going to accept (along with the Dems) that they contributed to the sitaution this country in as well.

    • 7 votes
    #1.52 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

    Romney, the puppet man. Who would want him in charge during a crisis? The man has no backbone or the guts to make a decision. You would not be electing a man for president, you would be electing Karl Rove, The Koch Bros. and the rest of these kind of freaks.

    • 6 votes
    #1.53 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:16 AM EDT

    CPO Sharkey "By the way, how did Feisty miss being first on this thread?"

    Feisty had better get on the ball or Obama might 'outsource' HER job.

    • 5 votes
    #1.54 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:21 AM EDT

    Roy's got a point that I'd like to elaborate on- Venture capitalists are in business to develop companies and spin them off to make money. They find a company that should be doing well but isn't, that has all of the indicators that it can/should do well (market share, viable products, etc.) and they buy it up for pennies on the dollar. Then they make strategic changes within the company to make them profitable (sometimes selling off a branch, closing a plant, etc.). They front their own money to attempt at changing the company and reap the rewards of the growth in value of the company and the profits. Once the company is doing well the venture capitalists either sell it or keep it within their portfolio building money for other projects. Trust me, you want this folks. If no one is willing to take risks on businesses we would no longer have Solo cups (taken over by a liberal run venture capitalist company), Toys"r"Us, etc.

    On today's Supreme Court finding (I think will strike down Obamacare), I think either way it will show up on Wall Street. If Obamacare falls I think Wall Street will show significant gains, if it somehow stays intact I think the stock market will decline. Watch and see.

    On Holder's contempt of Congress charges/vote, I think it'll stick. Unfortunately the politicians are trying to make it a partyline vote, which is a travisty. The issue is simple and clear- Holder supressed information from Congressional investigators, lied under oath that he didn't know anything, had the DOJ move all of the parties involved in the program moved, sealed the murder file for Brian Terry, and refused to release files for almost a year- but is finally willing to if whatever he supplies is the only release and Congress can't come back if they find interesting information. He's clearly obstructing justice- that's not a political party issue. If Brian Terry was your kid would you care about political parties? No, you'd want the truth to come out so that someone else's kid wouldn't get killed by a government program gone wrong, you wouldn't want taxpayer money going towards the killing of your kid, and you would want heads to roll of those who didn't run the program properly. I find it completely lame that the Black Caucus is calling for a walkout during the Holder vote- it clearly shows that they don't care about the truth, just posturing. Jackasses. Grow a set and do what's right for the country, get the truth out there.

    • 2 votes
    #1.55 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:24 AM EDT

    @JaneEco; good morning, your comment re: "stand on your own 2 feet", reminds me of a statement by Craig T. Nelson (the guy who played Coach on the TV machine), who said " I've been on food stamps and welfare and nobody helped me", tooo funny!

    BTW: to the folks who rag on Obama for using a teleprompter: SILLY, as the prompter has been in use for many years by many people.

    • 5 votes
    #1.56 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

    ItsAboutTime-3704531

    Do you really believe that nonsense? Pension funds cannot be taken by 'venture capitalists', and there is no doubt that Bain cut expenses in an attempt to turn around companies that were on the verge of bankruptcy, but that's what it is all about - saving a failing company.

    By the way - everybody knows that you can find dozens of biased sources on both sides of an issue, some making totally unsubstantiated claims, so quoting one is hardly impressive. Try doing what I try to do - make a point and back it up with links to official government sources - like the government Bureau of Labor Statistics that proves that there are 1.3 million fewer people working in May 2012 than when Obama took office.

    • 5 votes
    #1.57 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:31 AM EDT

    No spin just the 24 hour news cycle.

    Time to wake up and smell the coffee kiddies.

    Tomorrow there will be a story showing Romney ahead. Next week there will be a story showing Obama ahead. Romney will get a big boost after the GOP convention. Obama will get a big boost after the Democrat convention and so on and so forth and it don't mean a thing if you ain't got that bling.

    It will all come down to "butts in the booth". (you may quote me)

    The side that can get the most people to vote on Election Day will win. Butts in the booth. That's all that matters. These polls and predictions and the associated pissing contests are meaningless. Why don't you give it a rest, huh?

    Thank you, I now return you to your regularly scheduled mud fight.

    In the words of Bugs Bunny, "What a (bunch of) maroon(s)"

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 3 votes
    #1.58 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:33 AM EDT

    JoeNY "Venture capitalists are in business to develop companies and spin them off to make money. They find a company that should be doing well but isn't, that has all of the indicators that it can/should do well (market share, viable products, etc.) and they buy it up for pennies on the dollar. Then they make strategic changes within the company to make them profitable (sometimes selling off a branch, closing a plant, etc.). They front their own money to attempt at changing the company and reap the rewards of the growth in value of the company and the profits."

    Exactly right. Poor management is typically the reason that companies fail, and Romney has a business MBA that allows him to make the necessary changes to turn a failing company into a successful one - that's how he made his money.

    • 2 votes
    #1.59 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:37 AM EDT

    I totally understand Mike. The answer wasn't to you but to re-enforce that no matter what excuse the libbies want to use it belongs to bammy.

    • 2 votes
    #1.60 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

    roy wilson: libs have no clue about economics and don't understand, or don't want to admit that they really do understand what firms like Bain Capital actually do. I suppose some really do believe that the objective of venture capitalists and any other corporation is to bleed them dry and bankrupt them and get government money. For some reason they don't believe that people should be allowed to take risks and suffer the consequences, or reap the rewards with their own money. They do seem to believe that it is OK to take money from taxpayers and let the politicians take those same risks (think Solyndra). They fail to realize that politicians are interested in their own re-elections and buying votes as opposed to making money. After all, it's not their money they are playing with.

    It's not unlike their bi-annual scream that republicans want to drink dirty water, breathe foul air, kill babies and the elderly, and whatever else they dream of.

    I still don't think a lot of people understand what Limbaugh meant when he said that he hopes Obama fails. It's precisely because he didn't fail is why we are in this mess. He has gotten just about everything he's asked for. That's why he and other libs thinks he's so successful. And it's also why the country has been in the most remarkable recovery for the past 3 years. It's like magic! The country is booming! The only problem is that people can't see it. The magician has truly worked his magic.

    • 3 votes
    #1.61 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:39 AM EDT

    ROY WILSON-336103

    You're right.. anyone can 'make up facts' and resources to support them. However, real testimony from workers at these 'bain' take overs speak volumes.

    In terms of Obama's record, I could post even more fact about where he has succeeded and failed. However, no matter what is posted, individuals who cannot see the 'entire' picture have a sided view of the events at hand. Those who can see the entire sum of the situation realize it takes more than 1 man to cause it, 1 man to resolve it, and more than 3.5 years to do it.

    Pointing the finger of BLAME solves nothing.

    • 4 votes
    #1.62 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:42 AM EDT

    Why Romney isn't at least 20 percentage points ahead of Obama is beyond comprehension. He needs to get his vision for America and his plan out there and start winning over the voters. There is less than five months before the election and this country is in deep trouble if Obama gets four more years.

    • 6 votes
    #1.63 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:44 AM EDT

    Hilarious, Obama has thrown the ones who bought his election under the bus (unions, Wall Street) so now he is begging for money from the ones who thought he was giving THEM money!

    • 1 vote
    #1.64 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:53 AM EDT

    Romney says...corporations are people.......Birthers should be all over this one....Protect the country from Citizens United allowing Foreigners to buy an American republican politician. ...Republicans allowing Foreigners to buy the republican candidate of their choice. Meanwhile, real Americans were dying and getting wounded In Iraq fake WMD war. Did a corporation get blown up by IED? Did a corporation get wounded, or serve 3 terms in Iraq? Did a corporation come home in a coffin?

    Don't forget ever what Bush/Cheney/ reepubs did to economy and to our soldiers. Romney wants to do it all over again.

    Corporations are NOT PEOPLE! Vote President Obama/Biden 2012

    • 4 votes
    #1.65 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:55 AM EDT

    ROMNEY THE DRAFT DODGER! He went to France and fought the war from the French Riviera. Joined the missionaries and just awhile ago,when asked about it, he said he wished he could have been a part of it. Why didn't he quit the missionary and join the Army? Why did he take numerous deferments ? Why? Because Romney was a DRAFT DODGER LIKE Cheney!

    • 1 vote
    #1.66 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:59 AM EDT

    The money Obama handed over to Solyndra would have bought 18 firefighting aircraft that he said we couldn't afford- sorry Colorado.

    • 2 votes
    #1.67 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

    You're right.. anyone can 'make up facts' and resources to support them. However, real testimony from workers at these 'bain' take overs speak volumes.

    Except most of those "workers" are really Union thugs lie about what shape the company was in and what actually happened. GST Steel ad said Romney colsed them down to make money, except Romney wasn't even at Bain Capital when they went under.

    Romney wasn’t with Bain when GST went down. Romney had left Bain Capital in 1999, two years before GST’s 2001 collapse.

    http://www.rightwingnews.com/democrats/fail-obama-ad-attacks-romney-for-bain-bought-company-that-laid-people-off-but-romney-didnt-work-there-then/

    I guess if your going to link left wing sites as news sources I can do the same.

    • 3 votes
    #1.68 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

    What did Romney do with his illegals?

    ROMNEY CAUGHT with HIRING ILLEGALS!

    When Romney was caught hiring Illegal aliens to work on his landscaping, did he just fire them or did he call ICE and have them deported?....We all know the answer to that one don't we! He did nothing! He kept hiring the same firm and did it all over again.......Good ol turn em loose Romney. Repubs say illegals are criminals, so Romney is a criminal for hiring them. Christ he is a multimillionaire and he couldn't hire Americans to do the jobs. Had to get a few more pennies from American workers......GREED GREED GREED at your expense

    • 1 vote
    #1.69 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

    And you think the Democrats aren't the ones saddling us with debt? WOW! You will NEVER make progress with blinders on like that!

    Federal Budget (not total budget)

    Fiscal Year Receipts Outlays (Deficit) Author

    2004 1,345,369 1,913,330 (567,961) Republicans (Weak Majority)

    2005 1,576,135 2,069,746 (493,611) Republicans (Weak Majority)

    2006 1,798,487 2,232,981 (434,494) Republicans (Strong Majority)

    2007 1,932,896 2,275,049 (342,153) Republicans (Strong Majority)

    2008 1,865,945 2,507,793 (641,848) Democrats (Weak Majority)

    2009 1,450,980 3,000,661 (1,549,681) Democrats (Weak Majority)

    2010 1,531,037 2,901,531 (1,370,494) Democrats (Majority Control)

    Est 2011 1,614,278 3,317,275 (1,702,997) Democrats (Majority Control)

    Bush never signed Fiscal 2009 because it contained 200 Billion more in spending than he proposed. Obama signed it the day after he was inaugurated along with another 50 Billion in spending that Bush refused to sign, not included in the budget.

    The reason 2010 outlays are lower than 2009 is because 300 billion in TARP was returned along with 50 Billion in interest. BTW Obama then sent much of that money back out to middle sized banks. The stimulus was added into the baseline budgeting and now will be spent for ever.

    If you don't have a job, or taxpayers, you have a revenue problem. To make up for a revenue problem, you get another job, (get more taxpayers), or cut spending. Raising taxes is taking money out the economy, which decreases the amount of wealth created proportionally to the amount the taxes are raised. Raise taxes enough and you will have a loss in wealth.

    Republicans want to cut spending, Democrats want to raise taxes. Our economy is telling us that raising taxes won't work. That makes raising taxes to control deficits to be unrealistic which leaves the only choice to be cutting and the current group of Democrats REFUSE to cut anything.

      #1.70 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:01 AM EDT

      Why? Because Romney was a DRAFT DODGER LIKE Cheney!

      You forgot Clinton, I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

      • 4 votes
      #1.71 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:02 AM EDT

      Romney and repubs have no plan...except to take the economy down as they pledged.

      The first economic plan from the republicans ...was to blow up the economy so president Obama would not have a second term. Newt said it was the first seed sown for the 2012 election. 14-15 republicans secretly met the dat after Obama took office to pledge to vote against every bill that would help the economy recover. They pledged this saying they wanted him to be a one term president. They pledged to take the economy down just to destroy the presidents plans for recovery. Bin Laden wrote down the same plan and executed 911 to take the economy down to destroy the nation. These repubs, Ryan, Cantor, DeMint, and Gingrich pledged to act like the Taliban, to act like the insurgents do,(their own actual words) to prevent President Obama from a second term. Acting like the supreme terrorist of all time Bin Laden. Traitors. Deliberately sabotaging the recovery. Ref Richard draper new book.

      Ryan repub Plan...Kills socoial security and medicare. Repubs want to destroy the Post Office and privatize that also.......Take down America and give more tax breaks to the rich 1%. Romney for a worse tomorrow tomorrow.

      Vote President Obama/Biden 2012

      • 2 votes
      #1.72 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:03 AM EDT

      jpeg

      Bain capital is an investment capital company, they do not outsource jobs. They buy bankrupt companies and attempt to turn them around.

      Are you being intentionally thick? What exactly do you think they recommended from a labor stand point to turn those companies around?

      • 1 vote
      #1.73 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:31 AM EDT

      @ Rockmebritney,

      Have you ever noticed that liberals always threaten to move out of the country if the Republican candidate wins, but never actually leave?

      Yet Republicans never threaten to leave the country if the liberal wins. Why is that?

        #1.74 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:42 AM EDT

        @ Starsailing.

        You have a number of posts. But no cites. Without them, nothing more than non-influential opinion of regurgitated left wing rubbish.

        • 1 vote
        #1.75 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:46 AM EDT

        @cdahl; do you recall rash limbaugh saying he would leave the country?? :=)

          #1.76 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:49 AM EDT

          @ Old Dude.

          I do not listen to, nor respect Rush. So, no. But I do recall Rockmebriteny stating they would. And to Afghanistan as early as today.

            #1.77 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:00 AM EDT

            cdal....nothing but facts....prove me wrong! Guess you did not read my post for ref...Richard draper book on the secret meeting, do search yourself and pick your poisen.

              #1.78 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:43 AM EDT

              CDahl.........Like this one? for ref?

              Romney caught with Illegals, did he call ICE?

              By Amanda Terkel on Dec 1, 2006 at 11:39 am

              The Boston Globe reports today that for the past decade, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) has employed a landscaping company that relies heavily on undocumented Guatemalan immigrants. The company, Community Lawn Service with a Heart, also tended to the lawn at Romney’s son’s house.

              When asked by a reporter about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, Romney said, “Aw, geez,” and walked away. But in the past, Romney has been a vocal hardline critic of illegal immigration:

              Runs away instead of answering.......

              Romney the president....Mr President, we are under attack from Switzerland!...Romney responds..."Oh Geez!".....and runs away......aaaahahahaha

                #1.79 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:52 AM EDT

                @ Starsailing.

                Let me make this easy for you. Unless you were at the meeting, where is the link. Without it, wasteful dribble.

                Your link, source. A liberal Think Tank.

                http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2006/12/01/8933/romney-illegal-immigration/?mobile=nc

                Mine. The boston Globe itself. Written December 7, 2007. One full year before Obama took office, and when we all thought Hillary was going to be the candidate. Romeny did not hire an illegal person as you reference. The company that cut his lawn did, and when Romney found out, he fired them. Do you ask for green cards if you hire a contractor to fix your roof after a storm?

                http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/12/05/more_immigrant_woes_for_romney/?page=full

                GOP candidate fires landscaper after Globe shows continued use of illegal workers

                • 4 votes
                #1.80 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:46 PM EDT

                @ Starsailing.

                Same link directly from the Globe article, not from an opinion about the story from the Boston Globe.

                Last night, the campaign issued a statement saying Romney had just learned - apparently from Globe reporters - of the company's continued practice of employing illegal immigrants, and immediately fired it.

                "After this same issue arose last year, I gave the company a second chance with very specific conditions," Romney said in the statement. "They were instructed to make sure people working for the company were of legal status. We personally met with the company in order to inform them about the importance of this matter. The owner of the company guaranteed us, in very certain terms, that the company would be in total compliance with the law going forward.

                "The company's failure to comply with the law is disappointing and inexcusable, and I believe it is important I take this action," Romney said

                http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/12/05/more_immigrant_woes_for_romney/?page=full

                Simply....too easy. But it is why I stick to my values and vote for candidates that reflect them. Both Democrat and Republican. Those that follow a party and vote along party lines have a difficult time finding honest non-biased facts.

                • 3 votes
                #1.81 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:54 PM EDT

                CD...stick to your spin...What did the illegals have to say who worked for him through the mormon church?

                Politico.com Dec 4 2007

                UPDATE: The Globe has now posted their story. Not only was the company still employing illegal immigrants, but Romney himself still had them tending to his lawn.

                The morning after last week's debate "immigrants from Central America who say they are here illegally were in plain view on the lawn in front of Romney’s salmon-colored mansion in Belmont. Chatting in Spanish, they hustled to rake massive clumps of leaves, dump them in barrels, and clear debris from his tennis court.

                Their boss, Ricardo Saenz of Chelsea, was the same man who for a decade brought illegal immigrants and others to work for Romney, whom he had met through their shared Mormon faith. A year ago, the Globe broke the news that illegal immigrants landscaped Romney’s 2.5-acre property.

                In the past two months, the Globe observed Saenz and his crew at Romney's estate once a week, except during the week of Thanksgiving. The lawn work at Romney's usually took place around noon, then the crew drove a few houses down the street to the home owned by Taggart Romney, one of Mitt Romney's sons, where they worked for about an hour. The work was sandwiched in between other jobs elsewhere, on workdays that sometimes lasted 10 to 12 hours.

                Last Thursday, the Globe interviewed two of the three workers who were at Romney's house. Both said they were illegal immigrants from Guatemala; one of the immigrants said the third worker was also here illegally. After the first snow, one of the workers said he went on to another job for another employer after Saenz said they would not return to Romney's house until next spring.

                Maybe you no speaky the English eh CD?

                  #1.82 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:25 PM EDT

                  Obama & Romney nek and neck in Michigan? That is very bad news for Obama.

                  • 1 vote
                  #1.83 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:30 PM EDT

                  @ starsailing.

                  Again, from 2007. And Romney fired the company that hired illegals. Romney met the owner of the company at a church. Was he supposed to ask for the owner's SS#"s then and there? Or anytime they worked on his lawn? How many of the workers were illegal? How many were not? How many were of the same minority? And was Romney home during the gardening? At noon? If that is your angle, I suggest a new one.

                  But NOWHERE does it state that Romney approved of using a company that hired illegal aliens. It does state that he was informed of it in 2006 and gave the owner one chance to clean up the employment. When the owner did not, he fired the company.

                  Your "Romney hired illegals" argument you got from a left wing spin tank is significantly different than Romney actually paying directly an illegal like a house cleaner.

                  Name call all you want, but your argument doesn't stick. And if that is all you have on Romney, I feel sorry for your ability to research.

                  • 4 votes
                  #1.84 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

                  Yeah...interviewing the illeagals...a spin....Now the illeagals are spinners........Ya...it sticks.......your spin doesn't.

                    #1.85 - Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:44 AM EDT
                    Reply

                    Unfortunately we do no elect a president by POLLS from the news media even though the media would love for that to happen. We vote from our heart to sweep out the bad and replace with the good.

                    • 14 votes
                    Reply#2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:09 AM EDT

                    I wonder if these are the same pollsters who reported a close race in Wisconsin earlier this month. The recall election was supposed to be "neck and neck" even on the day of the election, but ended up with an 8 point victory for Gov. Walker.

                    NOBAMA 2012!

                    .

                    • 7 votes
                    #2.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

                    The pollsters used in this poll are a Democrat and Republican that work together. Sheesh.

                    It's definitely not the FOX news pollster that says that tax cuts create jobs.

                    • 4 votes
                    #2.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:39 AM EDT

                    John, you are on to the game. It is the left leaning media trying to supress the conservative vote and goad others into voting for the person of their choice.

                    The entire news budgets might as well be credited to the DNC, especially since 79% of news media is Registered Democrats.

                    The founders felt that a free and independent press was essential to the survival of this nation. if it is not free and independent, it becomes the tool of tyranny.

                    Since 2000, different members of the press have boasted that they can affect elections by their influence by 5 points or more - and it wasn't the conservatives.

                    • 2 votes
                    #2.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:52 AM EDT

                    Eric, neither NBC or Marist are Republican or Republican leaning....nice try though.

                    • 3 votes
                    #2.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:53 AM EDT

                    Some lousy choice this year. It's feels hopeless no matter who wins. Never felt this way before, always perferred 1 to the other, but not this time. I'm afraid we're (middle and lower class) on our own people.

                      #2.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:01 AM EDT

                      So...Issa admits on Fox news...there is no evidence of lying...or coverup By anyone .....yet..." Yet all the rt wingers on the blog say there is.....?

                      Let's see what is known....

                      So repubs don't know, what they don't know. And..they admit they don't know , what they don't know, that they don't know. How can they don't know, what they don't know about what they don't know? We do know that they don't know, what they don't know. But they don't care that we all know, that they don't know, that they don't know. If repubs did know, what they don't know, about what they don't know, we would know what they don't know about what they don't know about.

                      • 2 votes
                      #2.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

                      so, after eight years of reaganomics and the savings and loans debacle, it took clinton eight years to get us back on track, only to be disabled by eight years of war spending and obliterating the middle class to poor classification, from the bush administration, with the only winners there were the cheney/haliburton clan and the bush oil clan. the republicans are drinking the kool aid again, only this time, there's no kool aid, no talk about policy, only obama put downs, no answers, because, their outdated policies and marxist tea partiers threatening us at the state level are dangerous to the country. we need tougher bank regulation, still.

                      can't believe the race is so close. it's a no brainer. this isn't obama's fault, but the fault of the rich, the damage has been done, obama really is doing a good job, considering what he was dealt. we made it through eight years of bush, they can handle eight years of president obama. he put food on the tables of the unemployed who are now poor, thanks to the rich. he wants america to take responsbility for the health of its workers, where the corporations and republicans throw them away to die after they use them. compared to countries like germany, we've almost reverted to a third world country, the way republicans want to treat their own. the opposite of pro in progress, is con, in congress. hasn't there been enough cons by republican ceo's , republican congress, and republican con bankers??? wake up people. the rich do not care about you, only how you vote to support the one percent, not you. if you are on ANY government program, medicade, medicare, social security and unemployment, and you vote republican, you are a hypocrite. you can thank a democrat for their fight to keep these programs in tact. republican memories are short. the dow was dipping down under 7000 points before president obama took office. i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it any more. no more tea party. no more ignorance.

                      OBAMA 2012. for a civilized, better america. we're better than the tea party people. time to send a message, a strong one.

                      • 1 vote
                      #2.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:53 AM EDT
                      Reply

                      lol and this is breaking news how?

                      • 6 votes
                      Reply#3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:09 AM EDT

                      It's simply the attempt by the main stream media to help make Obama appear to be relevant, trying their best to shore up his campaign.

                      NOBAMA 2012!

                      .

                      • 5 votes
                      #3.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:38 AM EDT

                      It's the main stream media attempting to inflate Romney's chances to make the race look close so that the television ad money keeps pouring in.

                      • 7 votes
                      #3.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

                      @eric, you hit the nail on the head.

                      @john, I have your butt on extra duty til after the elactions.

                      • 2 votes
                      #3.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

                      Obama can still win without Michigan, North Carolina and New Hampshire; even though I doubt that it is that close in Union controlled Michigan.

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:51 AM EDT

                      It's the main stream media attempting to inflate Romney's chances to make the race look close so that the television ad money keeps pouring in.

                      Yeah Eric, they have to get it from some where obama's just about broke!

                      • 2 votes
                      #3.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:54 AM EDT

                      2010 Elections did teach us something. Repubs said they want to privatize Social Security and medicare. Teabaggers said leave our Social Security and Medicare alone, and who do Teabaggers vote for?...The very same repubs that said they want to privatize Social Security and medicare.....The Ryan Romney Plan...kill Social Security and Medicare, Give more tax breaks for the rich while cutting food stamps from starving children and familes to pay for tax breaks for the rich!...Insanity...voting against themselves.....Teabaggers are wondering WTF?......Ya we learned who was insane>

                        #3.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:14 AM EDT
                        Reply

                        Obama should be fine talking two out of three of these states. I also believe that if Rubio does not run with Romney, Obama will take Florida.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:13 AM EDT

                        Rubio isn't too loved down here in Florida. He's been a complete failure as a Senator. As far as a politician I guess the right-wing nuts love him. Florida is still a purple state and I doubt he'd get reelected if the 2010 election was a do-over. Charlie Crist running as a democrat will send Rubio packing in 2016.

                        • 11 votes
                        #5.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:25 AM EDT

                        Didn't Charlie already try that.......

                        You are seriously underestimating the intelligent population of Florida.

                        • 7 votes
                        #5.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:31 AM EDT

                        jpeg- bigfinn is correct Rubio has lost a lot of followers, especially after it came out that his parents came here before Castro took over and did not escape from Castro like Rubio said, that and his weak stance on immigration. i dont know about Crist but if things keep going like they are for him, he could easily be defeated next time, at least i wont vote for him(didnt do it in '10 either)

                        • 3 votes
                        #5.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:14 AM EDT

                        Care to cite some polls showing that....

                        His weak stance on immigration is pretty much the plan obama just put into effect. Why do you think the loser in chief did it? Rubio was gaining bipartisan support for his bill.

                        • 6 votes
                        #5.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:18 AM EDT

                        I don't know that Rubio really cares what the voters in Florida think.

                        If Romney is elected look for Rubio in a cabinet post. If Romney is not elected look for Rubio on the speaker/book tour circuit.

                        Either way he's bound to make more money than being a Senator from Florida.

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 AM EDT

                        Not sure about that CPO....he said in the last interview, he could do more good for the people of Florida as a Senator.

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:29 AM EDT

                        I am sure Obama can get his job back as the bathroom attendant at 21 Club

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:58 AM EDT

                        Obama will be just fine. He will be just fine as he packs to return to chicago wearing his ass for a hat.

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:02 AM EDT

                        Obama will be just fine....

                        Yes...unfortunately, has-been democrats never seem to disappear.

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.9 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:56 AM EDT

                        Obama will definitely win Michigan. This nov. the FULL legalization of marijuana will be on the ballot. Not just medical, but fully legal. Now before all of you say "well potheads won't ever make it to the polls" The results of the medical mj vote was 63% for 37% against. Over 3million for, less than 1.8million against. That will drive people to vote and while they are there I think we all know who they will vote for. It sure won't be Romney.

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.10 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:05 AM EDT

                        The problem that Romney has, outside of all of his obvious flaws, there is not a veep candidate out there that can deliver a state of consequence to his side of the electoral count.

                        Ryan of WI, his budget sucks and everyone knows it.

                        Rubio of FL, no one in Florida wants him in the WH.

                        Condaleesa tied to Bush43, a failed administration, biggest failed administration in the history of the USA.

                        Christie of NJ, looks its New Jersey in pants.

                        Bob whatever of Virginia, vaginal probe Bob, women aint buying it.

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.11 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:12 AM EDT

                        Actually, Rod, Carter was the biggest failed administration in recent history. Obama will be a close second. Give me the any of the eight Bush years in office versus the any of Obama's four years any time.

                        Highest unemployment rate under Bush? 6.0 % in 2003.

                        LOWEST unemployment rate under Obama? 8.6% 2011.

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.12 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:06 AM EDT

                        ROMNEY LOST to McCain....who Lost to President Obama.

                        President Obama/Biden 2012

                        • 2 votes
                        #5.13 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:10 AM EDT
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                        An NBC poll is worth the paper it was printed on.

                        Oh and Obama doesn't have a chance in hell of winning N.C.

                        • 14 votes
                        Reply#6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:15 AM EDT

                        Odd that Gallup shows the same thing...

                        • 5 votes
                        #6.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:28 AM EDT

                        Rasmussen has Romney ahead in NC. That is one most rely on.

                        • 9 votes
                        #6.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:34 AM EDT

                        NBC must have written their poll on the american dollar since its just about useless ,or heading that way,thanks to the Obama printing press.

                        • 4 votes
                        #6.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:53 AM EDT

                        yeah its easy to be ahead in a poll when 65% of people surveyed democratic's

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:00 AM EDT

                        hot daddy-4087878

                        Rasmussen has Romney ahead in NC. That is one most rely on.

                        The one to rely on is the one that always shows results divergent to the other polls? That sounds odd. Maybe because it is the poll favored by News Corporation? That must be it.

                          #6.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:19 AM EDT

                          After being in campaign mode for YEARS and YEARS....ROMNEY shows no compassion for flood victims in Florida or the thousands of people in Colorado who are burnt out of their homes. Romney attends two fundraisers of which one is at TRUMP'S mansion at 50K a pop. Romney learning secret from Trump on what to do, keep Gary Bussey or fire him. Romney only fires people, so we know the outcome. Romney will put Bussey on top of his car and fire him while driving around.

                            #6.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:20 AM EDT
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                            Republicans don't even LIKE Rommney, they just want our BLACK president out of office. You know because he is trying to fix our broken health care system, clean up the environment, allow gays and women to have equal rights etc.

                            • 12 votes
                            Reply#7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:17 AM EDT

                            Run up huge deficits, create class warfare, fix the healthcare system by allowing doctors, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals and labs to charge whatever they want while blaming it on insurance costs, keeping unemployment above eight percent for four years and blaming it on Bush while doing nothing, keeping interest rates below one percent which scr*ws anyone trying to save money, etc....etc.... etc...

                            • 18 votes
                            #7.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:29 AM EDT

                            wilman its idiots like you who are the reason were in the mess we are in everything you said is nothing but right wing hate talk and deceptions , look in the mirror and blame yourself for supporting and voting for the idiots you do, unemployment would of never went up to close to 10% if bush and you righties wouldnt of destroyed the worlds economy of 2 unfunded wars, huge deficit spending and encouraging people to buy buy buy on credit, and out sourcing galore, you my friend and people like you are to blame for supporting this

                            • 10 votes
                            #7.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:42 AM EDT

                            Blacks don't even like Obama...They just can't vote for whitey when theres a black on the ballot...

                            • 11 votes
                            #7.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:47 AM EDT

                            not a troll.....facts....+$6 Trillion added to the debt in less than 4 years....medical costs and insurance premiums through the roof....a divided country because the man will not work with both and most of the time either party....what did wilman say that was false?

                            • 11 votes
                            #7.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:47 AM EDT

                            Yes, it's my fault. I need to pay more than forty percent tax my share according to Bozo.... Because that's my fair share for working hard and trying to get ahead. Maybe when you idiots finish blabbering about Bush, the Koch Brothers, sheepie, and whatever repetitive phrases you can come up with, you will man up, take some individual responsibility for your lives without expecting the government to solve all your problems.

                            • 12 votes
                            #7.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

                            Yes, it's my fault. I need to pay more than forty percent tax my share according to Bozo..

                            Nobody is asking you to pay 40% and I I highly doubt you're anyway near that income bracket. Try getting some real facts rather than repeating the talking points spewed out by the right wing noise machine.

                            • 4 votes
                            #7.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

                            obama the freaking MORON is fooling NOBODY!

                            I USE to have health insurance... After obama 'JOKE' I have NONE.

                            The freaking thing tripled over.. Not paying for some obese cigarette inhaling giant liter pop guzzler who will have health issues to the extreme and dead before 60 because they dont give a dam.

                            Go F yourself obama!

                            • 3 votes
                            #7.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:25 AM EDT

                            WherehasAmerica please don't tell us who we like. Thanks. Obama is doing the best he can facing unprecedented obstruction due to the hate and racism of the GOP. And I believe that many of you trolls will be very sad after election day. I hope Faux News gets their comments section back up so you can go home where you belong.

                            But my favorite part of reading these comments is that the wingnuts NEVER believe polls unless they like them. It's hilarious.

                            • 4 votes
                            #7.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:30 AM EDT

                            Facts:

                            Obama inherits a 11 Trillion dollar debt.

                            TeaPartys swoops in and REFUSES to work with Obama on anything. Republicans vote against raising the debt ceiling, but had no problem voting to raise it when Bush was president every time.

                            Medical and Insurance Premiums were already skyhigh.

                            BUSH made it so the government cannot negoitate the prices of prescription drugs.

                            Republicans support corporate tax cuts saying it will create jobs. Corporations are back at pre recession profit levels, but no jobs. Obama attempts to work with Congress to keep corporate taxes low, provided loopholes are closed. Republicans say no.

                            Republicans continue billion dollar tax subsidy for oil corporations already making record profits.

                            Republicans dip into social issues by telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. Refuse to support basic civil rights for gays/lesbians even though they pay the same taxes. Refuse to allow women "equal pay" for the same jobs men do. Refuse to allow women in the military to use their insurance for 'help' when they are raped and end up pregnant.

                            • 8 votes
                            #7.9 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:33 AM EDT

                            It'sAbout Time....Debt under Bush $4.8 Trillion...COUNTING $1 Trilion for obamas tarp spending. TOTAL FOR EIGHT YEARS.

                            Debt under obama $5 Trillion in 3 years.

                            Yeah obama's done a great job...of pushing America out of the ditch and over the cliff.

                            • 3 votes
                            #7.10 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:03 AM EDT

                            @Domewars

                            I know how you libs like to make everything about race, but President Obama is not Black, he is mixed race. He's has as much Caucasian blood in him as he does African. Raised in a middle class white America, not the streets of Chicago's east side. Obama's heritage is pretty much what every American is today, a mixture of races.

                            • 1 vote
                            #7.11 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

                            Jpeg....

                            When Bush took office in 2000, he and the entire Congress became responsible for the debt. What budget did Bush submit to Congress that went into law to reduce the debt? As far as I am concerned, the minute any President takes office, or a new Congressional session begins, they are solely responsible to the American people to practice fiscal responsibility.

                            Bush Failed and Congress Failed. They passed along a LARGER debt to Obama and Congress to resolve.

                            Now here is 2012, and Obama and Congress (that includes REPUBLICANs as well), have failed to balance the budget and will continue to "Pass" along an even larger debt.

                            Obama and Congress have FAILED.

                            Show me Romney or any other "member of Congress' plan to pay off the deficit. Do not show me his website, a bunch of made up bullet points mean nothing.

                            • 3 votes
                            #7.12 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                            jpeg

                            not a troll.....facts....+$6 Trillion added to the debt in less than 4 years

                            You do realize that several trillion are the middle east wars that came on the books in 2009 due to them being removed from emergency appropriations right? Oh nevermind. Who am I kidding. Its just easier to be stupid.

                              #7.13 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:39 AM EDT
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                              runkomunkoDeleted

                              Hey, where is the Feisty Redhead? Must be too early to get up if you don't have a job and spend the entire day on your computer....

                              • 7 votes
                              Reply#9 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:32 AM EDT

                              She is a PMSNBC/DNC paid troll.

                              • 11 votes
                              #9.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:35 AM EDT

                              Feisty is still in bed waiting fot "The Hope and Change"

                              • 11 votes
                              #9.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:37 AM EDT

                              Must be too early to get up if you don't have a job and spend the entire day on your computer....

                              You seem to have plenty of time to spend on your computer. Do you have a job?

                              • 4 votes
                              #9.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:34 AM EDT

                              Romney says he can find some common ground.....meaning ...he will hire some more illegals for cleaning, mowing and taking care of the grounds around each home he own...!

                              Common ground indeed. That's is funny, he has no plan other than supporting the Ryan Plan and his statement "corprations are people." So what have we learned from Romney? He wants to destroy Social Security, Medicare, and replace the Post Office all with his rich friends corporations so they can make a bigger profit after they raise prices on everything and give worse service or none. Ryan plan gives Romney ove $700,000 tax break while you get a 20% hike and pay the taxes the rich would have been paying but won't. Cuts to food stamps and programs for the midlle class while paying for the 1% tax breaks. Why does he not have a plan for jobs? Because he is a job killer and his past work shows it. Repubs need to be investigated for trying to kill the economy so they can regain the whitehouse. Take the economy down...Just like Bin Laden wrote as his master plan. Take the economy down.

                                #9.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:39 AM EDT
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                                almost always , the challenger wins when less than 5 points down going into election day because most all the undecided go with the challenger, obama is in deep trouble because were not even to labor day yet and its this close. If they strike down health care today and gas goes to over 5 bucks a gallon by labor day we might see a romney landslide win with him taking as much as 48 states , the gop soundly taking the senate and adding to the house. If that happens you might as well kiss your medicare and social security goodbye, the gop has not been silent on this and have already convinced most voters below 60 years old they will never see it and they are already willing to give it up to vote for romney and the gop, they have succesfully convinced them that obama and the dems bankrupted the government and thats the reson they must end these entitlements, add medicaid, food stamps and welfare, they end too, unemployment will go back to 13 weeks not 99 weeks

                                • 3 votes
                                Reply#10 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:34 AM EDT

                                Yea, if Reps win, end of medicare and SS!@ LOL Have to get up early to hear these sort of lies. Go Occupy a job troll.

                                • 4 votes
                                #10.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:37 AM EDT

                                hot daddy you are very well uninformed if you think otherwise, read the Ryan plan, the GOP budget , educate yourself, and then apologise to me for your uninformed untrue statement you just sent

                                • 5 votes
                                #10.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:45 AM EDT

                                Yeas not a troll, a you know very well both sides ask for everything and meet in the middle....no one is going to end SS. Obamacare would have ended Medicare, but fear not...it's history today. SS will be saved as soon as common sense measures are put in place...means testing and increased contributions.

                                • 3 votes
                                #10.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:07 AM EDT

                                jpeg I hope you are right, if romney or anyone on the gop could openly come out and say that I might consider voting for them,as of now i cant-tomany saying they want to end all these entitlements especially the tea partiers

                                • 1 vote
                                #10.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:24 AM EDT

                                I hope so too....but keep in mind...plenty of dems have talked about cutting benefits also. A few simple steps and a "keep your hands off" sign would go a long way in sustaining it.

                                  #10.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:36 AM EDT

                                  Wow, dragging out the Social Security scare. The democrats have been using that for 50 years.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #10.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:48 AM EDT

                                  @not a troll; You do realize that Pres Obama cut Medicare by $500 billion with his healthcare bill, which provisions started immediately. One of those provisions, co-pays doubled. Reduced reimbursements to drug companies. What happen? The cuts got added to the consumer's bill. Cuts to Dr's reimbursement. If you go on Medicare, which you have to when you turn 65, good luck in finding a doctor to take you as a new Medicare patient. They are not doing it as it cost them too much money out of their own pockets. So clearly your not on Medicare, because frankly I am steaming at the additional cost put on my spouse and frankly his medicare, supplement & drug cost are far higher that mine! We paid $15,000 out of pocket last year for medical coverage, drugs and dr visits. 3/4 of that was my spouse's cost. We have already paid more out of pocket this year in comparison then last year at this time. We normally do not fall into the donut hole for drug coverage until Sept, we now fall into it in July and his drug cost have gone up considerably. I can't even imagine what a widow or widower are going through who don't have extra income to rely on and are just living off of SS.

                                  This didn't happen under Republicans. Not to say it wouldn't just saying Democrats are not your saviours when it comes to SS & Medicare.

                                    #10.9 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:23 AM EDT

                                    hot daddy-4087878

                                    Yea, if Reps win, end of medicare and SS!@ LOL Have to get up early to hear these sort of lies. Go Occupy a job troll.

                                    The funny / sad thing is you think he's fabricating that. Go get yourself educated ffs.

                                      #10.10 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:42 AM EDT
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                                      The two swing states that matter are Ohio and Fla. if the election is even close. Romney has momentum and this could easily be a landslide.

                                      • 8 votes
                                      Reply#11 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:39 AM EDT

                                      you are correct, with new hampshire and michigan being toss ups, romney should easily win florida and ohio, may now even take states like pennsylvania

                                      • 4 votes
                                      #11.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:48 AM EDT

                                      The two swing states that matter are Ohio and Fla.

                                      Romney has to win them both and he's behind in both. President Obama can win without Florida while Romney can't.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #11.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:37 AM EDT

                                      Romney in a landslide? What planet do you people live on? Seriously. The delusion is creepy. You do understand that the election will be decided by electoral votes, don't you? Have you even looked at the electoral map lately? I am guessing not. Right now, Romney is not winning. If Obama wins PA and Ohio he will probably win. He is currently ahead in both states and he has totally flipped in Florida. He was once down by 6, but now he's up by 4. This is not a good trend for Romney. As he alienates more and more Latinos things will get worse for him. Romney would have to run the table with all the toss up states. It's very unlikely.

                                      Romney may win, but it will never be a landslide. Just delusional.

                                      • 3 votes
                                      #11.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:36 AM EDT
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                                      Oh, I understand now....you just keep polling the people everyday until you get the results you want....

                                      Obama approval 48 - 42....two days ago, your poll was 47 - 48. I wouldn't call less than 50% above water or right on the surface.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      Reply#12 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:42 AM EDT

                                      the polls are somewhat correct and I think you should be seeing romney gaining and obama losing ground, obama having to spend big money in michigan and new hampshire is a big blow to them, they wanted to concentrate on ohio, florida, virgina , n.carolina, states like that, now they cant, the gop should easily be able to out spend him now with more than a billion predicted in gop pact money-its already late-obama team is in deep do do

                                        #12.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

                                        RCP has had Romney leading for quite a while...the last week of lib leaning polls have skewed the results. As soon as the non-partisan polls are factored in..he'll be right back up there.

                                        BTW....obama has already flooded FL, NC, SC, and VA with campaigns and ads.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #12.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:59 AM EDT

                                        Obama has already won Michigan. I gurantee. The only reason the poll is even close is because Mittens daddy was gov. here back in the 60s and the old farts long for the "good ol' days".

                                        Add legalization of pot on the ballot and sorry mittens... you are out of luck.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #12.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:15 AM EDT
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                                        The Supremes own the news today not the polls. Obamacare up or down?

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#13 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:45 AM EDT

                                        I always like Diana Ross songs........

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #13.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:29 AM EDT

                                        Set me free, why don't you babe? Get out' my life why don't you babe?

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #13.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:48 AM EDT
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                                        JaneEcoDeleted

                                        how the hell can about half the country like romney and the other half like obama and then bitch and moan about how our government is broken? IT'S BROKEN BECAUSE OF THESE TWO PARTIES! the parasites like hannity, maddow, schultz and limbaugh do NOTHING but encourage it.

                                        WAKE UP and vote 3rd PARTY

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#15 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:47 AM EDT

                                        who do you suggest? i know of no one running other than these 2

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #15.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:56 AM EDT

                                        not a troll......very good point. A third party candidate running on fly-by-night solutions will never take traction.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #15.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:02 AM EDT

                                        @not a troll

                                        If a seventh century desert people can organize the uprizings in Northern Africa, I think Americans could organize a write in campaign...I was given 10 names...just yesterday...

                                        

                                        R.J.Harris, Robby Wells, Wayne Allyn Root, Gary Johnson, Virgil Goode, Darrell Castle, Laurie Roth,Condie Rice, Robert Burke, Chuck Baldwin

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #15.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:10 AM EDT

                                        maybe in 2016-maybe , we may be ripe for one then

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #15.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:13 AM EDT

                                        You can't have one then if we don't set the stage now...America has to know it is possible...the Media is going to need to be forced to cover them...the only way that happens in the next election is if one makes a showing this election...I'm not talking about throwing an election...I'm only talking about "Deeply" colored states, vote for a principle...

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #15.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:37 AM EDT

                                        IE...Cali...NY...TEX...OK...Obama and Romney are not spending money in these states...and either one winning the others state is as likely as shooting down the moon with a BB-Gun...If Second Place in those states went to Third Party Candidates??? next election they are in the debates, in the polling, people hear their names...etc...it doesn't matter if it is a T-Partier or Greenie (preferably both)...If your vote for President doesn't matter in your State, then Vote for America...but do not stay home, go vote for the locals, vote for the House and Senate (Left and or Right)...And Send a Messsage to DC and the RNC and DNC

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #15.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:06 AM EDT

                                        If nothing else is accoplished, you force both parties to spend money in your state next time, and that is good for you and your neighbors

                                        If you hate Denizens United or Union Thugary, kick them where it hurts...make them spend that money defending your state instead of piling it on in the 4 or 5 states that matter

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #15.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:12 AM EDT

                                        Vote Gary Johnson for one.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #15.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:47 AM EDT

                                        It is interesting to see the lock the two parties have on election coverage, that Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate for President, can't compete for equal time in any of the media.

                                        Then they run the polls, and if Johnson can't poll around 25% of the voters he's barred from ever being in a Presidential debate.

                                        It really is a "good 'ole boy's club", in which the electorate only gets to hear from two parties. Monopolistic competition......

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #15.9 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:18 AM EDT

                                        and the Constitution Party, The Green, literally a dozen or more candidates are running for President...and 11 would be better Presidents than the two choices we are allowed to vote for...You want to know why it seems that the candidates for evry office seem worse than the last batch...it is because the best are no longer accepted into the Shoe-Horn Two-Party System...and that is exactly how they want to keep it

                                          #15.10 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:26 AM EDT

                                          Ted Kennedy says Cuber, your spot on in that both parties are no good and your correct in that the cable news networks are blood suckers.

                                          I also hope the nation starts to see and understand that our two party system needs to go and right now our nation needs real "patriots" in government that won't be bought out by big corporations and or wall street.

                                          It sickens me to read the comments people make regarding their party of choice. They root for their party as if it was a super bowl team. These people have no clue that both parties are not what they stood for back 15 - 20 years ago. Both parties have done nothing for us as a nation and their candidates have become more and more incompetent.

                                            #15.11 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:51 AM EDT
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                                            Today will be the day that ends Odombo, Obama Care is struck down by the supreme court, holder is struck down in a vote. The news casts will have to report all of this and people will see just what a failure Odombo has been as a president, only the sheep will be left on board.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#16 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:52 AM EDT

                                            Baaaaaa

                                              #16.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:07 AM EDT

                                              Hooray for OBAMACARE!!!!!!!

                                                #16.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:14 AM EDT
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                                                living in new hampshire i dont know who the pollsters are talking to but i dont know anyone who is voting for obama unless they are to ashamed to admit it!

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#17 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:55 AM EDT

                                                well you do now, I am and so is everyone in my family, my parents family and most all of our friends-hope that helps and yes we have to keep quiet because you tea partiers are quite violent and quite rude, i dont want my car slashed or to get fired from my job because someone knows I'm voting for Obama

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #17.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

                                                not a troll,,,,Have ANY proof that the tea party does anytype of violence your lieing face spews? Unlike the piglosi/obama endorsed "occupy" democratic party that has murder, rapes ,drug dealing, and destrution of private and public property among other hundreds of charges under your belt?

                                                • 5 votes
                                                #17.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:31 AM EDT
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                                                Once people get to see them on stage presenting their ideas (if Romney even has some solid beliefs by then) then people will begin to see the differences between the two. Obama has a ton of firepower for those debates while Romney can't criticize the president on his policies as his Massachusetts record shows how he once had ideas similar to Obama.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                Reply#18 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:58 AM EDT

                                                Romney's solid beliefs...Obama's broken promises....

                                                What's the difference????

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #18.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:00 AM EDT

                                                Funny, Obama will be toast. Have you looked at his record of pissing money away and his socialist agenda? Romney will have no problem smacking Odumbo accross the head.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #18.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:03 AM EDT

                                                romneyis the master of deception, knows how to be on both sides of every issue known to man and can like a chameleon change his colors to what ever the winning side is in a moments notice, will be very good in the debates, look very presidential and be able to answer most every question without really answering anything at all. I give the gop credit, they picked a masterful politician in romney, dont see how he could lose as of today.

                                                  #18.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:06 AM EDT

                                                  obama is the master of LIES!

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  #18.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:32 AM EDT
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                                                  When Romney is elected, all you lazy bastards will have to find a job. No more free money for sitting on your butt. We are tired of the hand outs.

                                                  ROCKMEBRITNEY you should start the paper work now to renounce your citizenship, it takes about 6 months for everything to go through. You should make sure that the Taliban wants you. Might want to look a little closer like Cuba or Argentina.

                                                  • 4 votes
                                                  Reply#19 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:01 AM EDT

                                                  That 50% of Americans still support the foolish socialist in the White House is troubling. That 50% of my fellow Americans are so deaf, dumb and stupid is mind boggling. Just what actually happened to half of this country's minds?

                                                  • 7 votes
                                                  Reply#20 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:03 AM EDT

                                                  If it's really at 50% now, then it means Romney wins by big margins....

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #20.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:05 AM EDT

                                                  " Just what actually happened to half of this country's minds?"

                                                  Given you post I'd say they've lost their minds.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #20.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:07 AM EDT

                                                  Musts be on drugs. Most Socialist Libtards start out with just a beer, but later you can see them sleeping on a park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent.

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                                                  #20.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:07 AM EDT

                                                  Whats happened to their minds is the education system teaching social/economic outcomes rather than the 3 r's. In public school these days you are not educated you are indoctrinated.

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                                                  #20.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:33 AM EDT
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                                                  I heard Obummer is spending more than he is bringing into his campaign, nothing new he has done that with government spending also, he just friggin cannot budget. Don't think the U.S. can take 4 more years of that.

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                                                  Reply#21 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:04 AM EDT

                                                  Sharriannie...its just the same way he runs the goverment..spending more than he brings in is nothing new to him.

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                                                  #21.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:51 AM EDT
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                                                  Ask yourself one question people: do you really want a member of a religious cult to be the next president of the U.S.?

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                                                  Reply#22 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:05 AM EDT

                                                  Hey Bill, it's nice to know that the left wing bigots are still out there. Most are absolutely gutless and won't dare to show their true colors.

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                                                  #22.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:08 AM EDT

                                                  Frank -- when it comes to separation of church and state, I'm ALWAYS out there showing my true colors!

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                                                  #22.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:14 AM EDT

                                                  Bill-337808 I agree with you Bill!!

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                                                  #22.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:18 AM EDT

                                                  Romney's religious background versus Obama's religious background any day of the week...

                                                  especially with spiritual leaders teaching you to ask God to Damn America...

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                                                  #22.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:20 AM EDT

                                                  WhereHasAmericaGone, you my friend are another lost soul to the evils of the devil! I will pray for you!!

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                                                  #22.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:23 AM EDT

                                                  Well sure we already have one!! Obama

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                                                  #22.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:28 AM EDT

                                                  You might want to use that prayer for Obama and his preacher Wright...

                                                  They are the one's who want God to Damn American. Not me or Romney (or his preacher)...

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                                                  #22.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:32 AM EDT

                                                  Ask yourself one question people: Do you really want to go back to the same economic policies of George W. Bush? That's the real question. As for Romney being a Mormon, I don't care if Mormon, Catholic, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Baptist or an atheist. His religion is a non issue.

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                                                  #22.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:44 AM EDT

                                                  I wish we had Bush back today, Obama is a real Socialist Libtard from hell

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                                                  #22.9 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:13 AM EDT

                                                  Over Obama,you bet. Although your notion that a president would actually govern using his religion is ridiculess.Your hate for all things religious Bill seems to cloud your judgement,not uncommon for liberals though.

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                                                  #22.10 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

                                                  Religion is a BIG issue when it comes to the presidency and ANY government official. Embrace your religion (or no religion at all) as a personal matter, but keep it out of my government. Obama (cf. Bush) disavowed his connection with religious zealots such as Wright, and embraced all religions. And save yourself the trouble trotting out the founding fathers: all you have to do is read Common Sense (which many of you obviously lack) to know what our founding fathers thought about religion . . . and government. Why do you think this country was founded and has succeeded!

                                                    #22.11 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:31 AM EDT
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                                                    Hey rockmebritney, What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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                                                    Reply#23 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:05 AM EDT

                                                    MukMAn God will have mercy on Bills soul, but not yours if you vote for Romney!

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                                                    #23.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:19 AM EDT

                                                    so rand thinks God hates Romney and worships Obama...

                                                    And he talks about saving one's soul...

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                                                    #23.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:34 AM EDT

                                                    WhereHasAmericaGone God Hates no one, but does allow for us to make our own mistakes. That is why we have free will you sinner!!

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                                                    #23.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:57 AM EDT

                                                    Flush out your head gear Rand and try and fill it with something other than rabid liberalism.

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                                                    #23.4 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:45 AM EDT

                                                    Rand -I don't know if you are old enough to remember 1960, but a lot of people were afraid to vote for a Catholic, fearing that the Pope would have undue influence on his decisions. The Catholic was elected (Kennedy), and we didn't have religious rule.

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                                                    #23.5 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:04 AM EDT

                                                    Rapco - trying offering something of substance in your posts rather than the old, worn out labels of liberalism, etc.

                                                    Roger - Catholicism vs Mormonism? Give me a break! Have you ever accessed the LDS website to see their beliefs? Scareeeeey!

                                                      #23.6 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:38 AM EDT

                                                      Bill, my point was that religion doesn't come into play like you think it might.

                                                      I lived in Eastern Washington for 10 years and am familiar with how Mormons operate. Whatever the strangeness in their theology, they were good neighbors and were always willing to volunteer in their children's activities. They wouldn't bother you when they knew you weren't interested in converting.

                                                      I may also point out that there are many atheists that think Christians believe in a Zombie god. If you aren't a member, you can decide that anyone's beliefs are strange. The bottom line isn't the theology.

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                                                      #23.7 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:24 AM EDT

                                                      Beg to differ, Roger. What about Bush's "Faith-based" crap? Secondly, I have known Mormons, too, as neighbors and "friends;" however, when push comes to shove, they'll circle the wagons (pun intended) and look after themselves. Theology mixed with government is bad enough; fringe theology mixed with government is the worst.

                                                        #23.8 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:16 PM EDT
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                                                        the troll must be a transplant m@!$%# move to new hampshire for quality of life then vote like you still live in taxacusetts

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                                                        Reply#24 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:11 AM EDT

                                                        sorry I upset you so much, no transplant, look on the brite side no one like me will ever be elected to any political office

                                                          #24.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:35 AM EDT
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                                                          Oh goody!! I thought the country would be too smart to re-elect Obama again. I guess you can't fix stupid. Spread the wealth.

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                                                          Reply#25 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:11 AM EDT

                                                          You are right, you can't fix stupid and you are proof positive of it. The idea that this country would be dumb if they re-elected Obama is laughable on its face. This man has faced a s&it storm and inherited a country going off a cliff. And morons like you want to conveniently forget that. I am so sick of tea party types going on about how bad the economy is when they and their crowd CAUSED the mess to begin with. This president has presided over 27 months of positive jobs growth and the figures would have been better except the REPUBLICAN TEA PARTY blocked every jobs initiative this president tried.... they WANT this country to have a slow recovery so morons like you can utter statements like that on a daily basis. You need dumb because it is only the stupid that would cast a ballot for Mitt I can create jobs (but they'll be overseas in India) Romney.

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                                                          #25.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:55 AM EDT

                                                          Philly, BOTH parties have shipped jobs overseas. This went on under the first Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr. and Obama.

                                                          Yes he took control of a bad economy, an economy that was crashed by too much government spending by Bush, AND a housing crisis caused by the democrats, Frank and Dodd forcing banks to give home loans to people who could not pay them back.

                                                          After 3 years Obama has done NOTHING to fix the economy and in fact has made the deficit 3 TIMES WORST THAN BUSH!!

                                                          Obama thinks he is a king and that he can roughshot over or by pass Congress. Just look at the illegal invader protection he decreed.

                                                          Romney was not my first choice but he is WAY better than Obama. He certainly can't do any worst.

                                                          And I am NOT a Mormon. I am a proud Roman Catholic who does not like what Obama is trying to do to our hospitals and charities.

                                                          Romeny / Rubio 2012.

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                                                          #25.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:26 AM EDT

                                                          phillycap, from Philly? Have not had a republican Mayor since the 50s. Been a $hithole and broke for the last 40 years. What a toilet. Keep blaming the last guy a$$hole. Idiot. Mindless sheep with their hands out. Keep voting Dumacrat.

                                                            #25.3 - Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:34 PM EDT
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                                                            45 to 47 points. That is about what Obama will get in the end. If an incumbent doesn't have at least 50% by now, he is done in that state.

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                                                            Reply#26 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:13 AM EDT

                                                            Historically, you are correct..the challenger usually picks up the undecided. Keep in mind though...9 out of 10 dead people vote Democrat.

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                                                            #26.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:22 AM EDT

                                                            Not to mention Obama is trying to get all the illegals to vote for him too...

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                                                            #26.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:36 AM EDT

                                                            I know it's wrong to gloat, but even a federal judge agreed yesterday with Florida. Federal law does not prevent them from removing illegals from the voter roles...no matter how close it is to an election. Federal law protects American voters...guess holder missed the American part of "The United States of AMERICA."

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                                                            #26.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:40 AM EDT
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                                                            close race msDNC? Is that just like the race you said was to close to call 10 minutes before Walker showed you socialist lib democratic moochers lost another due to your libtard ideas and total union lies?

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                                                            Reply#27 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:20 AM EDT

                                                            This poll is a complete lie. There is no way Obama wins North Carolina. He won this state by 14,000 votes in 2008. He will be lucky if he loses North Carolina by less then 400,000 votes in 2012.

                                                            I live in one of the most liberal cities in North Carolina. Unlike 2008 there are no Obama Mama bumber stickers, no yard signs or flags and every friend I know is talking about a Romney Presidency...and theses are people who voted for Obama in 2008.

                                                            Obama has NO CHANCE to win North Carolina.

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                                                            Reply#28 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:21 AM EDT

                                                            This surprises me too, especially after the gay marriage thing and the de facto amnesty for young illegal migrants. But then, North Carolina has a lot more cucarachas now that in 2008. And I suspect that they are 90+ percent in favor of Obama. Maybe there's a lot of rednecks holding back.

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                                                            #28.1 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:33 AM EDT

                                                            I am not sure what a "cucarachas" is but if it's Mexicans there a a lot LESS now than in 2008. The construction boom died in this State in 2009 and they left in 2010. Even the Mexican grocery stores have closed around here...

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                                                            #28.2 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:39 AM EDT

                                                            it surprised me too, maybe there are a lot more blacks and hispanics that now vote there? and im a lib im surprised obama is anywhere close

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                                                            #28.3 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:42 AM EDT
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