Romney: If health reform is stricken, Obama's first term 'wasted'

Speaking in Virginia, Mitt Romney offered his first public response the Supreme Court decision on Arizona's immigration law saying the Court had to weigh in because President Obama "failed to lead."

 

SALEM, VA -- Mitt Romney said Tuesday that President Obama will have "wasted" much of his first term if the Supreme Court decides Thursday that the president's health reform law is unconstitutional.

Amid a flurry of politically important rulings by the high court this week -- including yesterday's immigration decision -- Romney positioned himself in anticipation of Thursday's scheduled verdict on "ObamaCare."

"If Obamacare is not deemed constitutional, then the first three and a half years of this president's term will have been wasted on something that has not helped the American people," Romney told a crowd of some 1,500 supporters here today. "If it is deemed to stand, then I'll tell you one thing. Then we'll have to have a president, and I'm that one, that's gonna get rid of Obamacare. We're gonna stop it on day one."

Romney has long been forced to wrestle with conservative skeptics, who see Romney's health care reform law in Massachusetts -- including the requirement that individuals to purchase health insurance or face a penalty -- as a model for the president's reform. Romney's pledge to repeal the national law is a daily part of his stump speech, but takes on added meaning as the clock ticks down toward Thursday, the final day on which the court has scheduled the release of opinions.

If the entire law (or just the individual mandate) is struck down, Romney's comments today suggest he will use the ruling to batter the president for wasting his time and political capital on a law that was ultimately wiped out, rather than focusing on the economy.

Romney also used his rally here today to respond for the first time publicly to yesterday's Supreme Court ruling on Arizona's stiff immigration law, elements of which Romney praised during the primary campaign.

The former Massachusetts governor described the court's involvement in the Arizona case as an example of a presidential failure in leadership, saying that had the president and a Democratic congress just passed immigration reform, immigration issues would not be the "muddle" they are now.

"The Supreme Court had to step in because states had to step in," Romney said. "States looking to find a way to solve the problems he didn't address, tried to address it in their own ways, and now the Supreme Court's looked at it, and what we're left with is a bit of a muddle, but what we know is the president failed to lead."

Romney also addressed the immigration case at a private fundraiser yesterday, in which he pledged to pass his own immigration reform plan -- which revolves around simplifying legal immigration and placing strict limits in place to prevent the hiring of illegal immigrants -- within one year of taking office.

In neither appearance did he clearly state whether or not he agreed with the Supreme Court's ruling, focusing instead on each state's right to address immigration issues if the federal government fails to do so.

Today's rally took place in the Roanoke media market, which NBC's First Read reported this morning is the second most active media market for political advertising in the country this week with Romney and his GOP allies narrowly outspending Obama and Democrats. With that focus in mind, the presumptive GOP nominee said today that he would take back the Old Dominion this election, after the once-reliably Republican state flipped into the Democratic column in 2008.

"We're going to win in Virginia," Romney said as he wrapped up his remarks. "We're going to win in November."

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Comment author avatarTunde AkinsExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

"Romney: If health reform is stricken, Obama's first term 'wasted'" says Mr. No position...

I was for it b4 I was against it....

Me: So Mr. Romney, why are you against the health care reform;

Romney: because it's popular to?...

Me: So why did you pass it in MA

Romney: because it was popular to be for it at the time.

Me: So would you change your position with the wind?

Romney: Let me check with my staff... and I'll get back to you on that.

Romney: If health reform is stricken, Obama's first term 'wasted'

  • 62 votes
#1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:52 PM EDT

The Great Decider aka Mitt Romney: “You know, we will see kind of what the calendar looks like at that point and I am not going to tell which items will come first, second, or third. What I can tell you is that those people who come here by virtue of their parents bringing them here, who came in illegally, that’s something I don’t want to football with as a political matter."

He won’t specify which tax loopholes he’d close.

He won’t say which federal agencies he’d eliminate.

He won’t say whether he’d support the Paycheck Fairness Act.

He won’t say whether he supports the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.

He won’t say whether he’d support full reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act.

  • 49 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:56 PM EDT

Romney is either a moron or simply bent on destroying what is good for the American people.

He said: "If Obamacare is not deemed constitutional, then the first three and a half years of this president's term will have been wasted on something that has not helped the American people," Romney told a crowd of some 1,500 supporters here today. "If it is deemed to stand, then I'll tell you one thing. Then we'll have to have a president, and I'm that one, that's gonna get rid of Obamacare. We're gonna stop it on day one."

So in his world, if the SCOTUS deems it to be unconstitutional he believes Obama has wasted 3 1/2 years helping the American people. First of all, I guess we'd have to forget everything else the president has done to help the American people.

But more importantly is Romney's next thought or lack thereof. If it's deemed to stand, then it is constitutional that he will do everything in his power to eliminate it he were elected on day one. And then what? What are all of the working people across the country who aren't offered insurance or can't afford it supposed to do? What is Romney's plan? I doubt he has one. The only thing on his mind is to rebut everything the president does.

In other words, Romney, just like the other RWNJ's out there are simply bent on destroying anything and everything the president has done for the American people simply because HE did it.

  • 49 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:02 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbob-1805084Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

First term wasted?

Yea Mitt, that's a nice effective sound bite, but at least it is one less mess to clean up.

Still need to reconcile the $5 trillion wasted for nothing, need to undo Frank Dodd that threatens another financial collapse (few have a clue the disaster unfolding) - Holder's war on banking, need to un-do Obama's war on coal and energy in general, that threatens millions of jobs and the economy .... then there's the lost years of Obama being Putin's poodle and the mess in Iran ...

What a mess.

  • 16 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:04 PM EDT

Mitt Romney said Tuesday that President Obama will have "wasted" much of his first term

Well if NitMitt said it, its gotta be true. HAHAHAHAHA!

But what is Mitt's stand on it? What is Mitt's stand on anything?

  • 36 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:07 PM EDT

"We're going to stop it on day one."

See, this the part I never understand. My question is "Why?" What is so god-awful about it? Only specific answers will be considered.

  • 40 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:08 PM EDT

Sorry Mr. Romney, you are incorrect - again, the president more than filled my needs when he took out Kadafi (reaygun or bushey 1 should have done this) and ben laden (bush 2 should have done this), so to all those families directly affected by the 2 evil ones our President eleminated, this has not been a waste, it has been a great success.

  • 41 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:13 PM EDT

What's wasted is your vote if you vote Republican. These guys had 6 years with full control over all three branches and did nothing to find a solution to the healthcare crisis, immigration, education, etc.

The entire economy was built on a bubble under Bush, Republicans sat around pretending they knew nothing about it.

  • 48 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:17 PM EDT

What did Governor Romney do in MA on his first day? Or the first 100 days?

Can anyone fro MA tell me?

  • 23 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:18 PM EDT

Wasted? Like your last 20 years of trying to stay relevant but also failing at that to ! Your also the guy who talks out of his a$$ and says nothing !

  • 31 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:20 PM EDT
Comment author avatarFeisty Redhead Roselle, ILExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

To think there are people in this country who would vote for this policy challenged clown sends shivers down my spine!

It's bad enough he can not take a position on anything, but then surrounds himself with George "W" Bush retreads!

Wasn't 8 years of having a puppet in the WH with Cheney pulling his strings enough?

  • 42 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

Seriously, Feisty, what will you do when Romney wins in November?

  • 18 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:25 PM EDT
Comment author avatarbob-1805084Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

The entire economy was built on a bubble while they sat on the asses doing nothing.

Thank you, you might add a bubble Clinton and the dems made.

Withregard to Bush and crew sitting on their asses ....

2001

  • April: The Administration's FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is "a potential problem," because "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity." (2002 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 142)

2002

  • May: The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in the President's 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

2003

  • February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market.
  • September: Then-Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact "legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises" and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.
  • September: Then-House Financial Services Committee Ranking Member Barney Frank (D-MA) strongly disagrees with the Administration's assessment, saying "these two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis … The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." (Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," The New York Times, 9/11/03)
  • October: Senator Thomas Carper (D-DE) refuses to acknowledge any necessity for GSE reforms, saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." (Sen. Carper, Hearing of Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, 10/16/03)
  • November: Then-Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any "legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk." To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have "broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards" and "receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

2004

  • February: The President's FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital and calls for creation of a new, world-class regulator: "The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore … should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator." (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)
  • February: Then-CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to "not take [the financial market's] strength for granted." Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by "ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, "Keeping Fannie And Freddie's House In Order," Financial Times, 2/24/04)
  • April: Rep. Frank ignores the warnings, accusing the Administration of creating an "artificial issue." At a speech to the Mortgage Bankers Association conference, Rep. Frank said "people tend to pay their mortgages. I don't think we are in any remote danger here. This focus on receivership, I think, is intended to create fears that aren't there." ("Frank: GSE Failure A Phony Issue," American Banker, 4/21/04)
  • June: Then-Treasury Deputy Secretary Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and calls for reform, saying "We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System." (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)

2005

  • April: Then-Secretary Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying "Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America … Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system." (Secretary John W. Snow, "Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee," 4/13/05)
  • July: Then-Minority Leader Harry Reid rejects legislation reforming GSEs, "while I favor improving oversight by our federal housing regulators to ensure safety and soundness, we cannot pass legislation that could limit Americans from owning homes and potentially harm our economy in the process." ("Dems Rip New Fannie Mae Regulatory Measure," United Press International, 7/28/05)

2007

  • August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying "first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options." (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, the White House, 8/9/07)
  • August: Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd ignores the President's warnings and calls on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. (Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," The New York Times, 8/11/07)
  • December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying "These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I've called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon." (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, the White House, 12/6/07)

2008

  • February: Assistant Treasury Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, saying "A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully." (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)
  • March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and "move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages." (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)
  • April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and "modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)
  • May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.
    • "Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow state housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)
    • "[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)
    • "Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)
  • June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying "we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)
  • July: Congress heeds the President's call for action and passes reform legislation for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.
  • September: Democrats in Congress forget their previous objections to GSE reforms, as Senator Dodd questions "why weren't we doing more, why did we wait almost a year before there were any significant steps taken to try to deal with this problem? … I have a lot of questions about where was the administration over the last eight years." (Dawn Kopecki, "Fannie Mae, Freddie 'House Of Cards' Prompts Takeover," Bloomberg, 9/9/08)

SOURCE - The White House - President George W, Bush

  • 11 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:27 PM EDT

Seriously, Feisty, what will you do when Romney wins in November?

V-Bob, Mitten's can't even hold on to Va, let alone win in November.

  • 28 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:30 PM EDT

V-Bob, Mitten's can't even hold on to Va, let alone win in November.

You sure got that right GT!

What are you gonna do probe-boy when Willard loses and President Obama has 4 more years?

  • 31 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

To Bob in Virginia-5210392whho writes.

Seriously, Feisty, what will you do when Romney wins in November?

I don't know Bob, she will them blame MSN for Obama not winning in November.

Seriously, have you google feisty redhead. She has a least one website where she is making quite some money. She has pages and pages (just like Obama's Health Care) of entries. I think she might be in the 1%. It is all public information.

  • 13 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

WHAT!

It is IDENTICAL to YOUR LAW!!! This guy is a piece of work! It's cool, oh it's not cool. I have a policy but you will have to wait to hear it. Mitt gets elected in 2012, the White House becomes the Waffle House (tm).

  • 23 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

Bob 18-#### --Plenty of blame on both sides. Republicans had six years of full control of all three branches why did they not do something to stop it? ALL THREE BRANCHES Bob, what's their excuse, blame Clinton? Blame didn't stop the bubble that popped in 2007. What were those guys doing for six years beside watching it grow????

  • 23 votes
#1.17 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:46 PM EDT

Bob-1xxxxx,

You can try to spin it any way you want with ancillary issues, but housing collapse was primarily as a result of lowered interest rates that spurred interest in buying... lowered interest rate that started as a result of bush's policies to lift the economy out of a recession that started at the end of Clinton's term.

Greenspan theorized that making homes affordable would spur the economy, and it worked... unfortunately the housing/banking industry accelerated its deregulation helped by both parties in the house, but especially republicans.

So in my humble opinion this is Greenspan's and Bush's are primarily to blame... while there are also blames left to smear everyone else... including people who bought homes they couldn't afford in the 1st place.

  • 13 votes
#1.18 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:09 PM EDT

Don't -

The repubs tried to pass the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005.

Blocked by dems.

Repubs 55 - Dems 45.

Tunde -

Haven't seen you in a while, welcome back.

Regarding low interest rates causing the collapse ...

Very creative and funny ... haven't heard that one before.

  • 3 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:02 PM EDT

In 2005 under the 109th Congress, that bill died in committee. Chaired by a Republican. Never made it to a vote. At least that's my understanding.

  • 6 votes
#1.20 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

Yea like I said ....

55 repubs for it 45 dems against.

What is that you guys are always saying about obstructing ... the filibuster?

  • 2 votes
#1.21 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

Instead of calling it "Obamacare", call it what it is. Healthcare reform. Doesn't Romney think we need it?

  • 8 votes
#1.22 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

Obama's first term has been wasted regardless of the Obamacare outcome...

  • 4 votes
#1.23 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:17 PM EDT

All you repubs out there have another round, because Wasted is what you need to be to vote for A$$hat Romney.

  • 8 votes
#1.24 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

You can see this coming. The right-wing crazies have been screaming their heads off now for almost four years. They're angry. They are so angry that they refuse to listen to the truth.

For almost a century, one President after another has pushed national health care. Republican or Democrat it didn't matter. Indeed, it was Republicans who pushed for forced inclusion in such a program. Romney himself referred to the problem of "free riders".

Until President Obama came along, only the Clinton Administration had the cojones to go for health care reform. The responsibility for passing a health care bill was handed to Hilary Clinton. She and the President were knocked ass over teakettle for their efforts.

For all their bluster and noise, the last thing Republicans understand is courage under fire. They can't run away fast enough from the program of their putative nominee - Mitt Romney.

Guts? That's President Obama who actually jumped into this fray, fought the fight with every tool at his disposal including compromise and opened the door to national health insurance.

It doesn't matter how the Supreme Court rules. We WILL have national health care for all soon enough. We WILL crush the death merchants and their profit above all mentality.

The President has his warts for a certainty. None of us who support him think he's done everything right. But, he got it done with health care, like it or not. That alone, gets my vote.

Now, if he could find a way to get Fox to reopen their comments section and get these ill-educated trolls out of here, I'd really think he was wonderful.

  • 13 votes
#1.25 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

Best picture I've seen - female SENIOR citizen holding a large sign that says:

NATION OF SHEEP

RULED BY WOLVES

OWNED BY PIGS

**Sheep = right wing lemmings, wolves = RETHUGS/GOP, PIGS = Koch Bros, mega corps, big business.

  • 5 votes
#1.26 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:23 AM EDT

If the Pubs had the majority then how did the Dems block them? The Pubs can get into lock step during this admin and block and filibuster anything they want...I don't understand how anyone today can say that the Pubs couldn't do ANYTHING because of the Dems when the Pubs had a majority. It just doesn't fly. Maybe this piece can shed a little more light...

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=24851

  • 3 votes
#1.27 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:28 AM EDT

Who else but a vapid airhead like Mitt Romney would say such a thing? This is laughable! Where has he been the last 3 ½ years?

  • 4 votes
#1.28 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

Obama's 1st 4 years are already a WASTE! So is Obama. Let's get rid of this petulent child this Nov and elect an adult.

    #1.29 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:20 PM EDT
    Reply

    In neither appearance did he clearly state whether or not he agreed with the Supreme Court's ruling...once again.

    • 36 votes
    #2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

    You don't have to agree with it, but as President you should uphold it and enforce it.

    • 8 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:39 PM EDT

    And the Republicans will have done everything they can to make sure that nothing got done.

    They'll sacrifice the economy to make Obama a one term president.

    • 36 votes
    #2.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

    We know what Obama thinks of the decision, he didn't like it so has ordered the Home Land Security to not enforce the federal law. Once again we see Obama thumbing his nose at the laws of this country, the ones he swore to uphold.

    My question to the lefties that like the directive put out by Obama on illegal aliens being given work permits, not facing deportation if between age 16 - 30, and have completed high school or served in the military. We do not have enough jobs for LEGAL residents so how in the hell are we going to employ illegals under Obama's guide lines. Are these, approx 800,000, people going to be counted against the annual quota of immigrants allowed annually into the U.S.? Still a lot of questions to be answered before this directive can go into effect.

    • 6 votes
    #2.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:34 PM EDT

    Ursula

    The time for reaction is after the decision, not before it. Before it is trying to influence the decision.

    If you are looking to pick a fight, at some point you will find a way to get in one. Why not live at peace with all people and not just the ones you favor.

    • 3 votes
    #2.4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:44 PM EDT

    Oh, BS! Obama's first term will no have been wasted:

    ...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

    April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

    DJIA Dec 1, 2008 = 8149

    DJIA May 19, 2012 = 12369

    Dec 29, 2008 U.S. corporate earnings probably fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

    May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

    • 19 votes
    #2.5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:05 PM EDT

    When sferet can tell us how many illegals were given instant U.S. Citizenship under GWBush or cheap amnesty citizenhip (how many millions)???? Then compare that to Obama.

    • 1 vote
    #2.6 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:40 PM EDT

    How do republicants do it?? Somehow the GOP has figured out how to talk out of their asses without shi*ting their brains out!! Romney and his minions want to turn this country into America Inc. but you know what Mittens, my country isn't for sale!!

    Maybe you should put your magic underwear on and go back and ride your bike around France again only now theres no draft, you chickensh*t.

    • 12 votes
    #2.7 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:31 AM EDT

    I'm kind of tired of all the misinformation coming from the right. Under Bush, 4.2 million illegal immigrants were granted amnesty and provided a path to citizenship. Under Obama, deportations of illegals has more than doubled.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/obamas-record-high-deportations-draw-hispanic-scorn/

    As for Romney's comments in this article, he is off base, as usual. He claims American's have not benefited from the Patient Affordability Act. 3.2 million young Americans that have been added to their parent's health coverage might disagree; as would the 45 million that have or are receiving refund checks from their insurance companies.

    The CBO has scored the Act and has determined that the Act slows the growth of Medicaid spending, and saves tax payers approximately 10 billion a year.

    I have yet to hear or read any details of any of Romney's plans. He hasn't told us how he will create jobs, reform health care, or proceed on immigration. Is he just full of hot air?

    • 17 votes
    #2.8 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:14 AM EDT

    I dunno why other conservatives are for Romney....it baffles this conservative.

    I am all for a rewrite starting back to the original Constitution. I do not need a law telling me I can vote, as a member of man kind the Constitution already gave me that right, we as a society will not tolerate slavery here. Somethings need to be rewritten to be so simple to understand that no one could possibly misconstrue it. If that means saying " All living and of legal age registered American citizens can vote." Then so be it!! Works for me!!! Simple enough and sexless, colorless and religion-less.

    Have a plan in action, execute it and throw out the hundreds of filler pages. We need a 100% idiot proof and un-corruptable Constitution, that way scotus has a 10 minute decision and it includes an 8 minute coffee break!!!

    And yes Romney and Obama could fill a few Goodyear blimps with their hot air!!!

    • 2 votes
    #2.9 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:38 AM EDT

    It is typically audacious of Romney to declare Obama's first 3.5 yrs a failure if...when in fact, by that same criterion, since he has done nothing to help anyone but his rich buddies, his whole life is a failure. Obama had to be persuaded to run for President. Romney just wants one more trophy for his mantle.

    • 10 votes
    #2.10 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:19 AM EDT

    And of course, Romney has already taken credit for GM being #1 in the world, taken credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden, taken credit for 100,000 jobs created at Bain, flip-flopped on more issues than websites can hold.

    Romney is a liar, he cares only about the very wealthy ("I am not worried about the poor"), ignores the needs of women, childrem, the elderly and the infirm.

    Just out of curiosity, IF the health care act was completely gutted, what do the Republicans have ready to offer? Loss of Social Security Disability? Loss of care for children, women, elderly, infirm?

    Not one Republican can give an intelligent answer to that...(or anything else for that matter)

    • 13 votes
    #2.11 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:30 AM EDT

    @EEngineer: please don't confuse the lemmings with your pesky facts, they might get lost on their way to the cliff because they had to think for themselves.

    We have reached such a partisan divide - and getting worse at the moment - where every fact and idea is in dispute. Congress couldn't pass a resolution right now that grass is green and the sky is blue.

    • 6 votes
    #2.12 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:31 AM EDT

    Ray in Jax
    I'm kind of tired of all the misinformation coming from the right. Under Bush, 4.2 million illegal immigrants were granted amnesty and provided a path to citizenship. Under Obama, deportations of illegals has more than doubled.

    Ray - can you cite verifiable sources to support either of those statements that you claim as fact?

      #2.13 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:48 AM EDT

      I assume no one told Romney that President Obama shut down TWO Illegal Republican WARS. What a dork!

      President Obama got us out of the worst depression since the 1930's but he hasn't done anything.

      Romney will say anything to get elected maybe some time he might even tell the truth.

      • 2 votes
      #2.14 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:36 PM EDT

      What wars are those?

      • 1 vote
      #2.15 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:39 PM EDT

      Carl how quickly you forget. Those Wars were voted on unanimously by Congress with the same information the president had. Arm chair quarterback is for those who squirm and make judgement after the fact. Real men/women do it in the heat of the battle....for instance, after we were attacked on 9/11 President Bush responded. And obviously you don't keep up with current events. We still have active military personell in Iraq taking fire on a daily basis. They are not "classified" as combat troops but they are damn sure trained as infantry troops at Ft Benning, GA and they are in country. You also might want to know Afghanistan is still going strong. My son has returned but some of his comrads did not........It's not an illegal war. President Obama DID NOT shut anything down! Perhaps you should consider what the current commander in chief is doing on the borders of Syria with active personell entering that country. Is that a legal war? Did congress vote on it?Just because you disagree, doesn't mean you get to re-invent history.

      In my opinion and my observation, yes I think Obama's 3 1/2 years was a huge waste. Not all of it but a great deal of it. Like President Clinton said, it's the economy stupid. Obama made promises he knew he couldn't keep. Made commitments he never intended to honor. He was groomed to be president and he became president. He's had his 4 year vacation and I will be happy when he moves on to something more productive. Hopefully the next president will be able to work with BOTH democrats and republicans. Now THAT would be spectacular!!!!

        #2.16 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

        Simply because (the best) congress (money can buy) voted to fund illegal wars does not convert these wars into lawful conflicts. In order to legally prosecute a war congress has to declare war and congress failed to do so.

        • 3 votes
        #2.17 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:42 PM EDT

        Cool revisionist history, bro. Why do you think Colin Powell won't associate with most of the people from Bush's administration anymore, or really any neocons at all? First, because he was and is the only one in that cadre with any integrity to begin with, but mostly because he realized too late in the strangely unified daze of post-9/11 collective American shock, unfortunately just like most of the rest of us (Congress included), that Cheney, Halliburton, and their corrupt, Constitution-hating allies in the defense industry already had their hand up Bush's butt and would sink lower than any group of traitors America has ever had the misfortune to survive. They colluded to manufacture a fear-based case for preemptive invasion of Iraq, and Bush was too stupid and/or arrogant to realize even HE, the POTUS, was being played by Cheney and his private interests. That's right, I choose to believe Bush was dumb, not evil. The rest of his puppeteers tricked Powell into going in front of the UNSC (and indeed the entire civilized world) with those BS satellite photos and permanently destroying his own credibility worldwide, just like they fooled all of us...not because the case for WMD in Iraq was so convincing, but because we made ourselves vulnerable to their manipulation by buying into the frenzied calls for patriotic unity by people like those on Fox New Channel, because we wanted to believe that they wouldn't sacrifice the lives of our servicemen and women for pure profit, not realizing that Cheney would betray his country in the worst way possible, needlessly putting thousands of American servicemen and woman in long-term harm's way, just for a chance to dip their hands into the taxpayers' pockets while we weren't looking. Thousands of AMERICAN SOLDIERS are dead because of their greed for no-bid military contracts and a cut of Iraqi oil, not to mention the tens of thousands of innocent foreign men, women, and children we've slaughtered along the way. Afghanistan was understandable, indeed we basically needed to chase Bin Laden, but we gave up at Tora Bora because a dead Bin Laden would create an expectation of near-term withdrawal and peace, and they just weren't done in the cookie jar yet. So we finally get a guy who CAN and DOES catch Bin Laden, and they want us to believe he's the devil because he believes the richest country on earth should be able to take care of all its own. UNBELIEVABLE!

        The irony today is that Mittens is driving hard at the Oval Office by doing his best NEOCON impersonation with every word from his lying snake mouth, day in and day out. He sounds more like a neocon than Bush ever did. He may actually win in November despite the fact that he can't hold a position for longer than a week and lies as easily as he breathes, and if he does slime his way into office, it'll be for NO REASON other than that the SCOTUS performed forcible rape on the 99% with the Citizens United decision, tragically allowing the most megalomaniacal super-rich old white guys we have in this country to quite literally buy the US gov't, without having to so much as report the receipt to the taxpayers. All that and we know Mittens also believes in Mormon orthodoxy, so his actual sanity is also rightly in question. The funniest (albeit tragic) outcome will be if he slides right back into his Massachussetts governer mode once in office, as we at least would get a half-decent Pragmatic Corporatist as Pres., kinda like a stupid, extremely square and out of touch version of Obama, but at least it'd be funny watching all the racist white-wingers go apoplectic over him revealing his true colors as a pragmatic corporatist who will say anything at any time to get whatever he wants, up to and including passing substantially "liberal" legislation in a potential second term.

        • 3 votes
        #2.18 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:44 PM EDT

        Key comment from Carl is that clearly Barack never intended to honor the committments he made on the campaing trail (I am still waiting for Gitmo to close). Face it, he was going to say he would do whatever got him elected. Tragically for the US, he is in way over his head and the results show that.

        • 1 vote
        #2.19 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:49 PM EDT

        To victorkingdom -- There's nothing about Obama that's tragic for the U.S. The tragedy started with GWB and Cheney, I mean, President Cheney and Vice President GWB. If you want a good overview of GWB's eight years, read #2.18. To say Obama is in over his head is absolute nonsense. He could have accomplished even more without the Republican nitwits and TPers in Congress who've tried to sabotage his every move. If it's one thing that drives Repubs crazy it's smart Democratic presidents -- absolutely sends them over the edge. Their treatment of Bill Clinton is another excellent example of that, where they tried every means possible to drive him out of office and keep him from doing his job. Clinton still managed to accomplish a lot in spite of the disgusting treatment from his "colleagues" in Congress.

        As far as closing Gitmo, a lot of people want it closed. However, some of those held are terrorists and not easy to relocate. I accept the fact that Obama's campaign promises about Gitmo were made before he had access to Oval Office information. You bring up Gitmo, but you're ignoring all the campaign promises he HAS kept.

        I'm sorry, but your statement about Obama saying whatever would get him elected is a not very successful attempt to take the spotlight off Romney's lies.

          #2.20 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

          In Agreement, why is it that whenever one is critical of our current President, those such as yourself come back to GWB and Dick Cheney? I am not sure if you are aware, but Barack Obama is our President and Joe Biden our VP. GWB and Cheney are done....out of office....and have been for 3.5 years. It was Barack who promised to close Gitmo in one year (he either misled or was ignorant on that one), unemployment continues to be above the 8% he promised were he to get the stimulus passed (that is a bummer), the deficit has obviously not been reduced by 50% that he promised in his first term (again, either misleading or uniformed campaign promise), be the most transparent administration in history (er, except when it comes to implementing insitutional bribery to get the votes for the potentially unconstitutional ObamaCare. Though, the nice thing about that bill is that it will bring the deficit down---bridge in Oklahoma to sell you as well), etc.

          These are all committments HE made. Not previous adminstrations or Congress. What is it about that that you do not see. Everytime I hear Barack or Biden blame the prior adminstration or Congress what they are really saying is: "I am not up for the job and not equipped to fix the problems of our country--regardless if I inherited some of them". In essence, our current POTUS has said many times he cannot handle the job.

          I think based on the above you will agree with me that he is in WAY over his head--tragic. Time for a change and I wish him the best in his next professional endeavor. End of discussion.

          PS: you forgot to mention that he had complete control over Congress his first two years of office. Not sure why he did not get more done then but symptomatic of his lack of experience...

            #2.21 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:49 AM EDT

            Oh come on, victorkingdom. Barack Obama had the courage to give his views when running for President (unlike Romney). He's carried out many of his promises and if he hasn't been able to close Gitmo so far, well, he never said he could work magic. He's also privy to more information as President than you or I can guess at. You righties complain about Obama ONLY because he's a Democrat and deliberately ignore the disastrous, greedy, nightmarish eight years of Bush that brought this country, and the world, to the brink of economic disaster. Economists, in hindsight, are saying that the auto bailouts helped save the country from going into a depression. Obama is ending two wars as he promised in his campaign, thereby saving lives and tax dollars. To say that Obama is "over his head" and to ignore the fact that Bush was the most unqualified president, probably in this country's history, is insulting to everyone's intelligence.

              #2.22 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:34 AM EDT

              Romney says "his first term"

              Giving up a bit early Willard.

                #2.23 - Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:51 AM EDT
                Reply

                Obama's time in his first term would have been wasted if he had not tried to address health care reform. He also had to address all of the problems related to the recession.

                I like how Romney says "Obama's first term" as if he realizes Obama is likely to get a second term!

                • 39 votes
                #3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

                Yeah, he could have wasted it on something else, like the economy.

                • 19 votes
                #3.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:57 PM EDT

                In neither appearance did he clearly state whether or not he agreed with the Supreme Court's ruling...once again.

                Ursula - He can't say anything positive about it or he'll piss off the right. And he can't say anything bad about it, because its basically his plan, and we all know mitten's doesn't flip-flop on any issue........

                Obama/Biden 2012

                • 27 votes
                #3.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:11 PM EDT

                WCA--stimulus? bailouts? These were done to address the economy. And they were much criticized, despite the fact that most economists said the stimulus bill did not go far enough. That's probably part of the reason that the recovery has been so slow. Fortunately, we seem to be doing better than Japan did during their recession/recovery. The Japanese government would not provide enough stimulus to get their country back on track economically, so it limped along for years.

                There are several good provisions in the ACA; for example, 100% coverage of preventative screenings like mammograms and colonoscopies and the ability to cover children longer if needed (up to age 26).

                Besides, health care is a part of most people's budgets. It is an economic issue, so it is not irrelevant. Too many people are not able to get coverage--think of the expenses they must deal with!

                • 20 votes
                #3.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:23 PM EDT

                Yeah, he could have wasted it on something else, like the economy.

                Another spineless comment by someone who doesn't understand the word economy. Back up your claim that Obama did not work on the economy.

                • 22 votes
                #3.4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

                WCA--stimulus? bailouts? These were done to address the economy. And they were much criticized, despite the fact that most economists said the stimulus bill did not go far enough.

                You think that maybe "most" economists are academics? You think maybe they simply have computer models where by the more money you put in at one end the bigger the stimulus comes out? You ever read what these economists say is the 10 or 20 year effect of all this borrowing? You ever read how much "projected" growth is cut once the stimulus is over? I find it quite amusing that this President in the last month has

                - Supported Gay Marriage, but left it up to the states so that nothing really changed

                - Announced a directive to allow potential DREAMers to stay in the country for 2 years but with no proposals for what happens if he is not re-elected

                - Supported college students to borrow money at 3.4% while borrowing trillions in their name that they will have to pay back so that Medicare as we know it will not have to change.

                He really is the master of bait and switch.

                • 7 votes
                #3.5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:38 PM EDT

                Wait, wasted?

                Our paper had a story the other day on a 25 year old woman who has been able to stay on her parent's health insurance plan while she gets a double lung transplant. (Thanks to the Affordable Care Act.)

                The question is, will she still be able to get insurance with her pre-existing condition when she turns 26, and will she be able to afford the premiums? (Not if Romney is elected and the Affordable Care Act is repealed.)

                Wasted, huh? Tell that to this young woman and her family.

                • 34 votes
                #3.6 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:39 PM EDT
                Comment author avatarWhite Collar AutoExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                Amy what do you have to say to Brian Terry's family?

                • 9 votes
                #3.7 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:42 PM EDT

                WCA,

                That was the war on drugs so I assume that what anyone would say would be the same as Bush would say to the families of the 4000+ Americans killed in the war over WMD’s.

                • 18 votes
                #3.8 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:47 PM EDT

                Dennis,

                President Whats-His-Face thought that the whole search for WMDs thing was pretty darn funny that one time at the White House Correspondents dinner.

                • 13 votes
                #3.9 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:01 PM EDT

                Bob-1805084: What's your point? We know that GW wanted to legally hobble Fannie and Freddie....he wanted to create an agency that could manage ONLY fannie and freddie when it was the banks writing the bad mortgages. He was trying to saddle those two agencies, necessary fo the little guys to get into their first homes, with all the bad mortgages from all the banks and then let them go belly up.

                Mankiw said "legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk." Which means that he wanted this new agency to be able to stop the banks from writing bad mortgages ALSO, or have fannie and freddie excused from purchasing them (leaving them in the banks' balance sheets, since they chose to write these liar loans). THAT was unacceptable (to Bush)! So the bank lobby probably had dinner with the president's daughter and offered her a job in exchange for letting that proposal OUT of the greater proposal, therefore Barney Frank, being an intelligent creature who saw this whole proposal as the SCAM it was, said it's not fannie and freddie who are writing the liar loans and dumping them off into it's own books, it's the BANKS doing it. THEY need to be regulated. Which was true.

                Bush, meanwhile, knew all along about the banks crookedness, knew that fannie and freddie were required to buy their bad loans (by law) and that's why he tried to conveniently dump it all on them (the American peoples' mortgage clearing house) and let the greater public's only options dissolve. (Incidentally, he wanted to do the same to Soc Sec and Medicare; still does; so does Mitty and every other Repub) and therefore collapsed the economy and hoped to dump it on Democrats after it happened.

                In other words, like we all knew all along, the recession was totally, 100% BUSH"S FAULT. The collapse of Bush's "ownership society" (bubble, scam, whatever) was always unavoidable because of the way Wall St set it up, with aquiescence from his puppets the Republicans.

                So, what's your point?

                • 12 votes
                #3.10 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:07 PM EDT

                Amy what do you have to say to Brian Terry's family?

                I would tell them to ask their Congressman to tighten Arizona's gun control laws, as Democrats and law enforcement have been begging to do for years. THe guns that got into criminal hands durng Operation Fast and Furious were hardly the first or last to do so.

                The big "scandal" Issa is looking for, is in regards to possible efforts by the Obama administration to use this Fast and Furious fiasco to push for stronger gun laws. All emails regarding the inception of this program and it's aftermath have already been turned over to Congress. Issa wants the White House emails after the operation was already made public and agents had been punished.

                But you knew that, didn't you?

                • 15 votes
                #3.11 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:11 PM EDT

                [Yeah, he could have wasted it on something else, like the economy.]

                Poor, poor WhiteCollarCriminal...can't muster up a humbling "thank you" directed at President Obama for saving your job...

                The "auto company" you "work" for did get bailout money, did it not?

                Maybe you should stick to hiding behind Spanky's skirt...you're WAAAAAAY out of your element.

                Or just stick to fielding questions about proper tire pressure...it's more your "bag".

                • 15 votes
                #3.12 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:28 PM EDT

                If these people don't like President Obama the should not have picked mittens to run against him. Very poor choice.

                • 13 votes
                #3.13 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:29 PM EDT

                Sure Mickey, maybe you should get your own lines. They are stale coming from Feisty and even flatter coming from you.

                Don't you broads have anything original to add?

                Boy Amy, I am really starting to feel sorry for you. You have been so badly co-opted by the left that you don't seem to even know what you are talking about anymore. Just talking point after talking point, followed up with some make believe anecdote.

                It really is sad.

                • 7 votes
                #3.14 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

                So, WhiteCollar...Did your company get federal dollers or not?

                Simple question for the simple minded...or are you going to plead "the 5th"...

                Sure you are...you can do it...you know you can. But then, again, you think I'm a woman, which explains a lot about you.

                You are so far out of your league, that is what's truly sad. Maybe you should wait until Spanky comes back...there's no place for you to hide otherwise.

                And what's with you running off yesterday and not sticking up for your "NAFTA" comment?

                • 6 votes
                #3.15 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

                Nope Mickey, no Federal dollars for me. Sorry to burst your bubble. Some companies are actually run well.

                Now, do you have an original comment or do you just parrot Feisty's lame comments?

                I responded to your lame NAFTA comment. Sorry if you didn't have time to check, sweetheart.

                • 4 votes
                #3.16 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

                [Nope Mickey, no Federal dollars for me.]

                Yeah, sure...good one. But it is understandable how you wouldn't want to admit it...I mean, you have to stick to the script, right?

                Yeah, you know I'm right.

                How long have you been "in the auto business"? Oh, about 20-30 years? It's no coincidence that Detroit hasn't put out a decent product in ohhh...about 20-30 years.

                I'd say it's no coincidence...

                [I responded to your lame NAFTA comment. Sorry if you didn't have time to check...]

                Psst....no you didn't...maybe if you didn't spend your employer's money here posting deliberate misinterpretations and utter bull@!$%#, you may have checked yourself, "sweetheart".

                But that's what you've evolved into, right WCA? A perveyor of misconceptions and utter bull@!$%#?

                Sure it is. Now back to washing those cars.

                • 4 votes
                #3.17 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                Amy

                You are left misinformed as usual.

                Okay one person you read about benefited from the ACA.

                My mother-in-law benefited from the no pre-existing conditions. All that meant was that more than a handful of companies now offered said plan, but the premium was high (exactly why they weren't offered before - too high for most people to afford).

                My Sister still doesn't have Health Insurance. Pre-existing condition also. Same thing as the mother-in-law. She can get it, but it costs too much.

                Meanwhile, if you are a parent who cannot afford insurance, but want to cover you kids, you may no longer get health insurance for children only. The reason. No Pre-existing conditions can be excluded. The largest and pretty much only child only insurance company folded upon the enacting of the ACA. Most Health insurers (including the ones the Unions used) also dropped Child only policies.

                I wonder how many millions of kids are no without insurance because of this. Yeah, bad news like this get's burried on the pro-Obama team.

                • 1 vote
                #3.18 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:56 PM EDT

                Oh, BS! Obama's first term will no have been wasted:

                ...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

                April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

                DJIA Dec 1, 2008 = 8149

                DJIA May 19, 2012 = 12369

                Dec 29, 2008 U.S. corporate earnings probably fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

                May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

                • 2 votes
                #3.19 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:07 PM EDT

                What was the healthcare before the Obama initiative?? 45% of Americans cannot afford health insurance, 75% claim that even with insurance, the high price of medical care has created a decision dillemma when deciding how to care for themselves or a family member, so after OBAMA care is defeated we will go back to the norm. NOTHING, and in 10 more years when 60% of Americans cannot afford to pay health insurance premiums and 85% say that health care dents their budget severly, another Democrat President will come up with another health care initiative, this time most Americans won't be crying about not getting their choice in physicians, they'll be grateful for any care.

                • 4 votes
                #3.20 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:49 PM EDT

                Hey White Collar Auto, what's with the broads and the sweethearts? Do you think being condescending and throwing around diminutive terms for women makes you seem like a big strong smart man? Our hurts our feelings? Think all the little ladies here feel threatened or impressed? Cause dude, you sound like a retro hick of limited intelligence. Take yer pretty li'l mouth to Fox, sweet buns.

                • 4 votes
                #3.21 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:41 PM EDT

                Why you liberals call woman cun ts and beotchs.

                • 1 vote
                #3.22 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:26 AM EDT

                al....no that is conservatives....i.e. your lord and master, Rush.

                • 2 votes
                #3.23 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:41 PM EDT
                Reply

                This may be one of the more intelligent comments I've seen from Romney ever since he entered this race. It's largely true, and he just might be able to sell it to a number of undecided voters. I'm personally hoping the ACA doesn't get struck down at all, but I don't doubt that the Obama Administration debated the issues internally and decided, given that they had only so much political capital to spend, they decided to go for the enactment of what they hoped would be their "signature" piece of legislation rather than, say, trying to stimulate the economy further than they were able to do with ACA in the picture. In short, they rolled the dice, probably banking on a stronger recovery without much more in the way of stimulus, and feeling they could have their cake and eat it too if they could pass even the flawed version of the ACA which they did manage to pass. If the SCOTUS strikes down the whole act, then indeed a good argument can be made that they did waste their and the country's time while other pressing matters were left by the wayside. If the SCOTUS simply strikes down the individual mandate, then by their own admission the administration's claim that the ACA will actually save the country money in the long run will be hard to defend too.

                • 7 votes
                Reply#4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

                I think, if the mandate is struck down, and the rest of ACA stands , it will save everyone in the country tons of money. Everyone, except the blood sucking, death panel, insurance companies, which will go broke. Leaving us with Medicare for All, which we should have had in the first place.Win/win.

                • 2 votes
                #4.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:57 PM EDT

                That's a lie. Even Obama says the bill is unworkable without the mandate.

                If you watched the Frontline report on it, Obama's own aids say he had a choice between fixing the economy and Obamacare, he chose wrong.

                • 1 vote
                #4.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:50 PM EDT
                Reply

                A first term as President is something that Willard will never experience for himself.

                • 15 votes
                Reply#5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:03 PM EDT

                Yet another 2010 denier.

                • 1 vote
                #5.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

                Another 2010 check in reality after seeing what Tea Party Republican extremists have done in congress

                • 1 vote
                #5.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:50 PM EDT
                Reply

                So when Willard loses the election this November, will the 7 years that he spent running for President be wasted?

                • 20 votes
                Reply#6 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:20 PM EDT

                When Obama loses in November, it will be a waste of 4 years for him and the country, except at least Obama will have managed to get in an amazing 200 free rounds of golf ....

                • 13 votes
                #6.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:28 PM EDT

                The last 4 years have not been wasted if you want to destroy the country.

                If you want a stronger country then they have been a TOTAL failure.

                • 9 votes
                #6.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:35 PM EDT

                Destroy the country? You mean you want Willard to finish the job that Bush started?

                • 19 votes
                #6.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:58 PM EDT

                The downward spiral started with de=regulating the banking and finance industry then added NAFTA. Along with two unfunded wars.

                • 8 votes
                #6.4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:32 PM EDT

                [The downward spiral started with de=regulating the banking and finance industry then added NAFTA. Along with two unfunded wars.]

                Question: What was the common denominator in those three examples?

                Answer: Republicans

                ...just goes to prove that you can dress a turd in a $1000 suit, but at the end of the day, it's still a turd.

                • 12 votes
                #6.5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:36 PM EDT

                Mickey, that nice $1,000 suit looks real good on you !

                • 2 votes
                #6.6 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

                Gee, "jim"...somebody pulled your string, I see...

                But I noticed you didn't comment on the three examples, or their common denominator.

                Huh. Now why is that?

                • 6 votes
                #6.7 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:33 PM EDT

                Didn't the destruction of the Country start when Ike warned us of the Military Industrial Complex. Lets live in the past. Oh Ya he was a Republican, the party of (Bush), so was Lincoln he save the County from splitting itself into two parts. Kennedy saved us from a Nuclear war he was a Democrat, gee I bet Obama wishes he could be like him or maybe Clinton they both smoked big cigars. Lets start living in the present and build for the furture. When your the President you get somebody's old crap.

                  #6.8 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                  Mickey, NAFTA=Clinton. Sorry.

                    #6.9 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

                    [Mickey, NAFTA=Clinton. Sorry.]

                    Um, no...but you should be sorry for being so misinformed.

                    The Republicans own this one, and you know it...now show some balls and just admit that you're wrong...you can do that, can't you, Phil?

                    Sure you can...

                    • 1 vote
                    #6.10 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:30 PM EDT

                    If Obama was a waisted 4 years, then the previous administration was a waste of an entire decade.

                    • 3 votes
                    #6.11 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:52 PM EDT

                    romney is an IDIOT!~!~ Looking forward to the DEBATES!!!!!!!

                    hope these tb/gop bs stall tactics BLOW up in their faces.

                    OBAMA/Biden 2012

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.12 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:58 PM EDT
                    Reply

                    "We're going to win in Virginia," Romney said as he wrapped up his remarks. "We're going to win in November."

                    One way to lock up Virginia is to select popular Governor Bob McDonnell as your running mate.

                    (As a bonus, it will drove moonbats crazy... speaking of which , in what passes for 'wit' among the witless, a crude reference to women's private parts is coming in the next post )

                    Romney will win Virginia in any event, no question.

                    • 8 votes
                    Reply#7 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:22 PM EDT

                    VA - In the poll from Harrison Hickman, voters say they would support a pro-choice candidate over a candidate who is pro-life by an unexpectedly large margin, 68% to 23%. The resulting backlash from women in Virginia forced Governor Bob McDonnell and his allies at the statehouse to moderate their efforts.

                    • 14 votes
                    #7.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:32 PM EDT

                    Romney will win Virginia in any event, no question.

                    That is not a shoe in. Northern Virginia is a progressive area that could very well swing the state to Obama. Plus, I think VP Bob will hurt Romney, because Women in Virginia don't like VP Bob.

                    • 12 votes
                    #7.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:34 PM EDT

                    Popular???

                    "Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell sits on many potential VP lists but problems
                    might be brewing in his home state where his approval rating has slipped in the
                    past 12 months, according to a new Washington Post poll.

                    His approval rating dropped to 56 percent from 62 percent in the past year,
                    the poll found, and 35 percent of Virginia voters disapproved of McDonnell’s
                    work in the state, a 9 point increase from last year.

                    McDonnell, who is barred by Virginia statute from running for a second term,
                    still enjoys a high approval rating compared to other governors, but the drop
                    comes after a difficult year in the state legislature and a controversial
                    ultrasound bill that brought national attention to the state. He assumed
                    office in January 2010 after three years as state attorney general.

                    The Virginia governor and retired Army lieutenant colonel, 57, has the
                    support of 52 percent of the state’s women, a constituency with which
                    presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney is looking to boost his own standing this fall.

                    And would a Romney-McDonnell ticket help turn out independent voters in the key battleground state of Virginia? Seven in 10 independent voters said that adding McDonnell to the GOP ticket would not affect their pick in November. Eight percent said McDonnell’s spot on the ticket would make them vote for Romney while 18 percent said they’d opt for Obama."

                    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/va-gov-mcdonnell-approval-rating-drops/

                    • 11 votes
                    #7.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

                    Obama should win NO States.

                    • 6 votes
                    #7.4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:36 PM EDT

                    A new poll from We Ask America shows Mitt Romney leading Barack Obama in Virginia, a key swing state Obama won in 2008. Of the 1,106 likely voters in Virginia polled, 48 percent support Romney, with just over 43 percent supporting Obama and nearly 9 percent remaining undecided.

                    • 1 vote
                    #7.5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                    In the RCP average of polls (which includes the one you list) President Obama leads Gov. Romney by 1.4 percentage points. Our President also leads in the delegate count by 51 (221 to 170) with 157 in the 12 toss up states. Romney needs 100, Obama needs 49.

                    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/va/virginia_romney_vs_obama-1774.html

                    • 4 votes
                    #7.6 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                    Does anyone really care about the polls? Who are they calling, who are they missing? Who are they mailing? Most people aren't revved up about the elections until November.

                    • 2 votes
                    #7.7 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:34 PM EDT
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                    Remember Obama was laser focused on the economy. Recovery summer was two years ago. Is your shovel rusty? Five trillion dollars in debt in less tha 4 years. Unemployment over 8%. What Obama wasted was our money.

                    • 10 votes
                    Reply#8 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:44 PM EDT

                    Romney, just like Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, Ryan, Bachmann and others, rants and raves with criticisms but really offers nothing more than promising to do “something” better. Their actions clearly indicate their total concentration is on placating and patronizing “the money”, who strongly support them and who dictate to them, and on using the power, influence and money provided to con the people and to manipulate public opinion. They insultingly take the majority for granted in assuming that they are just “pawns” to be used and abused and add insult to injury by first, irresponsibly and stubbornly focusing on their political ambitions at any cost to the people and, second, in arrogantly being cocky confident that they can just spend to control the voters. They have actually been effective with their powerful backing and are thus emboldened by past successes: the manipulation of the “conservative” Christian; the Swift-boat propaganda; the Tea Party movement; as well as with the mega-millions spent in the recent Wisconsin recall voting; all being well funded, well designed and well directed efforts to sway and control voters thinking, always for success in a single direction.

                    This country is continually being pushed into being a two-class society with “the few” competing in having it all, while the majority continually struggles; that reality is readily apparent in the facts and results all around us. If the people are satisfied with that, then fine, all they need do is ignore all of the money being spent to dupe and control them, accept the propaganda being aggressively feed them and like sheep following the Judas goat, accept being led to the polls to vote as conned to.

                    But, ... if the people actually think more of themselves and want to be honestly considered and represented, then it is time to recognize “the money’s” aggressive self-serving efforts, reject their abundant propaganda aimed to excite and control and to then firmly and totally reject their “puppet” candidates / representatives who really only serve “the money”. It has been said that today’s Republican / Tea Party, in being completely owned and controlled by “the money”, can’t possibly responsibly govern for the people; the last twelve years have clearly substantiated that. If the people want the Grande Ole Party back, with a real and sincere concern for the people, then they have to completely reject what they have become. Simple? Maybe not, as it is dependent on the people not being conned, on their getting angry and refusing to just be used and abused. The Republicans are betting the people can’t do that.

                    • 11 votes
                    Reply#10 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:48 PM EDT

                    Those folks you mention are in postitions to make reforms happen. Boehner has been House Speaker for nearly one term but has any reform come? Of course not.

                    It is all talk and no do. I wouldn't mind their criticisms of the Administration or the opposition if they actually had a WORKABLE plan of their own. Unfortunately it is all bluster and no substance. I don't like everything the Democrats hsve proposed but at least they are proposing SOMETHING.

                    • 5 votes
                    #10.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                    More pathetic liberal lies. Boehner has sent plenty of bills to Reid and that's as far as they go. If democrats are so incompetent that they let the house run the senate and the executive branch they deserve to be kicked out this Nov.

                      #10.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:57 PM EDT

                      Absolutely right, they cry and whine about Obama, but bring nothing of a substantial alternative. They cry about Obama care but bring nothing to the table, but the competition theory of crossing state lines, all this competition crap, as if insurance companies will play that line. They will send the cost to the consummer like they always have.

                        #10.3 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:24 AM EDT

                        Yeah, at least President Empty Suit NEVER promised anything to us that wasn't delivered. I'm glad he told us unemployment would stay about 8% for his whole term. I figure that had they lied or misrepresented themselves with what they could have promised with our trillion dollars, he would surely have been held accountable.

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.4 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:22 PM EDT
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                        2008 = He's doing too much! Going too fast slow down. The American people aren't ready for all these changes.

                        all the years in between = blocking all legislation and appointments made by the President that would help get anything meaningful done.

                        2012 = He's done nothing and has wasted 3 yrs.

                        Keep on rolling with the nonsense you GOP clowns.

                        • 13 votes
                        Reply#11 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:51 PM EDT

                        2010, Scott Walker, San Jose, San Diego, Montana, fast and furious, and Obamacare, and still you can't take a hint. Talk about a clown.

                          #11.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:59 PM EDT

                          Bush accomplished alot didn't he?? Two waisted wars, 6000+ bodybags, tax cuts that did nothing but lead us to the GWB depression starting in 2007. Those great stockpile of WMD that Saddam supposedly had was worth all that!!

                          • 1 vote
                          #11.2 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:27 AM EDT

                          Just a quick question to your "depression starting in 2007" statement. Can you remind us who controlled both the House and the Senate in 2007 and 2008? Also can you educate everyone here as to who controls the purse strings? Just curious....

                          • 1 vote
                          #11.3 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                          LOL I'm sure you were ranting about the same things in the 2010 midterms right?!?

                            #11.4 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

                            Can you tell me who launched us into two wars consuming 9 years of everything we had plus no financing for these wars, tax breaks at the same time, gee, I thought tax breaks cured everything according to Republican ism. You mean a decade of tax breaks and two wars accelerating the debt to 10+ trillion didn't prevent THE GREAT GWB DEPRESSION?? Your normal depression takes about 10 years to recover from so 2014 with a deep recession/depression most economists have earmarked as a recovery period after 7 years of GWB policies.

                              #11.5 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:38 PM EDT

                              Notice that in the GOP presidential debates, I watched 10 of them, not ONE time did I ever here any of them bring up GWB as a gleaming example of great Presidential mentorship, they stayed away from him like the freakin plague!!!

                                #11.6 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:55 PM EDT
                                Reply

                                ...but, Mr. Romney, don't you remember?

                                This Health Care Reform legislation...

                                ...IT WAS YOUR IDEA!!!

                                • 14 votes
                                Reply#12 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:54 PM EDT

                                As governor you are supposed to represent your state, as president you are supposed to represent your country. Mass wanted this, the US did not. Romney listened to the voters, Obama did not. Even a room temp IQ liberal should be able to understand that.

                                  #12.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:01 PM EDT

                                  Oh it's not the same he claims

                                    #12.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

                                    Yeah and most conservatives aren't happy with even the state mandating something. However, if you would take the time to educate yourself on the version he signed, it is vastly different than what Obamacare does. Then again, you can just spew talking points from the left and never fully understand what you are even arguing for.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #12.3 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

                                    I'm in the medical field and have billed from both the professional and technical aspect, and have treated people who are filing banckruptcy based on an avalanche of medical debt. I know our current Republican lead system, that they don't desire to change, until of course a Democrat has enough balls to legislate something, has many upsides to covering a majority of Americans under an umbrella of health care. Not like the one we have now that will implode on itself in the next 10 year. I'm fully educated. And I will say that major components of the Obama legislation would help millions of Americans.

                                      #12.4 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:00 PM EDT
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                                      Apparently Romney can't count. ACA was signed 3-23-2010. That was a year and two months into Obama's term. After that it was the GOP that was busy wasting their time advocating repeal and figuring out how to defund it. It's funny how even the MSM ignores the fact that the GOP filibustered the Dream Act at the end of 2010. Romney is simply saying that the only "comprehensive" reform that the GOP will accept is the "reform" that they propose - incremental, and starting with closing the borders. E-verify is a joke. It's Romney's small business owners that violate this when and where they want. And the very red Ag. states will all seek waivers so as not to risk agricultural workers. I thought it was so ironic that Kris Kobach's (I wrote the AZ law) Kansas sought a waiver through their state's Secr of Ag. Boy did the proverbial s#*! hit the fan after that. There was so much back peddling that the Earth momentarily stopped its rotation.

                                      • 10 votes
                                      Reply#13 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:59 PM EDT

                                      [President Obie can't count either: 57 STATES?]

                                      Apparently, you have problems with simple reading comprehension...

                                      ...apparently...

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #13.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:33 PM EDT

                                      President Obie can't count either: 57 STATES?

                                      2008 called...they want their talking point back.

                                      • 8 votes
                                      #13.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:45 PM EDT

                                      Nov 2010 called, they want a repeat performance.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #13.4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:02 PM EDT

                                      Oh, BS! Obama's first term will no have been wasted:

                                      ...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.

                                      April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.

                                      DJIA Dec 1, 2008 = 8149

                                      DJIA May 19, 2012 = 12369

                                      Dec 29, 2008 U.S. corporate earnings probably fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.

                                      May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.

                                        #13.5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:09 PM EDT

                                        I have a question for you libtards. Why is it that you like to throw out the filibuster excuse to his failures. Do you really believe this empty suit is the first president EVER to have to work with another party in the congress? Go do your homework. Clinton had to work with a Republican congress, Reagan had to work with a dem congress. Not once did you hear either of them whining about the other side not working with them. Some additional info for you on this. Back then, both presidents had to work with both chambers of congress being controlled by the opposite party. This clown in office has had a dem House and Sentate for the 1st 2 years and still has the Senate. Also, the last 2 years of Bush, the House and Senate were controlled by Pelosi and Reid. Imagine that.

                                          #13.6 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

                                          Same reason, Republicans make excuses for 2 worthless wars, no funding for them, tax breaks at the same time and a 10.5 trillion dollar debt when your man left office, and what we now know as a Depression-modern day version of it, in 2007

                                            #13.7 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:52 PM EDT
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                                            Gov. Romney is throwing so much "red meat" out to the conservative base.....just seems a little bit desparate.

                                            He got caught flat-footed big-time (again) on the immigration ruling, so now he's weighing in on the health care ruling even before it comes in??? Does he have other responses/opinions already worked out, like Mourdock in Indiana, in case today's doesn't fit the ruling on Thursday?

                                            • 7 votes
                                            Reply#14 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:03 PM EDT

                                            Isn't that Mourdoch a major chump? He was a failure as treasurer and he would be a bigger failure as senator.

                                            • 1 vote
                                            #14.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:36 PM EDT
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                                            Seven in 10 independent voters said that adding McDonnell to the GOP ticket would not affect their pick in November. Eight percent said McDonnell's spot on the ticket would make them vote for Romney while 18 percent said they'd opt for Obama."

                                            Governor McDonell aka Governor Vaginal Probe will be the last thing Governor Romney needs to carry Virginia.
                                            Creepy guy all up in vaginas! eeewww!

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#15 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                                            Sheila,

                                            McDonnell will help carry Virginia if he is selected, no question... 56% approval rate , Obama is quite envious of that ...

                                            Your nasty extremist pathetic rhetoric is precisely why McDonnell will appeal to moderates and sane Democrats. No one will listen to nasty insults and lies, it only backfires to McDonnells benefit...so keep it up.

                                            1) The informed consent abortion law, in accord with many other states, was not McDonnell's bill.

                                            2) the bill was modified at McDonnell's request to exclude any internal ultrasound requirement.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#16 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                                            It still amazes me how Republicans can use the word "consent" to describe forcing women to undergo unwanted medical procedures regardless of their desires or the medical opinion of their doctors. To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #16.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                                            No, imagine the word "freedom" associated with vaginal probing:

                                            Imagine getting raped by a psycho and being forced to undergo this procedure as a reminder of what a slut you are for asking for it. One would almost have to visit the Middle East to feel such love from your government:

                                            But Republicans advocate this. Why?

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #16.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:14 PM EDT
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                                            Mitt Romney: President Obama's first term was a total waste. He did not achieve even one worthwhile goal in those four years.

                                            Ghost of Osama Bin Laden: You're telling me.

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#17 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                                            Nathan,

                                            Even a squirrel gets a nut sometimes... Nice that you could praise all the intelligence folks that have worked since day 1 (yes...even under the your big bad Bush) for collecting and analyzing the information so that it was nearly a slam dunk for Obama to say "yes". I suppose they don't count, nor the SEAL team that actually did the work, right?

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #17.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

                                            I guess the Democrats will desperately try to keep feeding off the dead carcass of Obama for about another 4.5 months. Navy Seals did the work while Obama lap-dogs claim the glory. Waterboarding intelligence was the key.

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #17.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

                                            I guess the Democrats will desperately try to keep feeding off the dead carcass of Obama for about another 4.5 months. Navy Seals did the work while Obama lap-dogs claim the glory. Waterboarding intelligence was the key.

                                            I would guess Obama only dealt with achievements; not words! What the hell did Bush accomplish? Nothing! BUT he did give Pakistan $16B in payments... while bin Laden lived less than 3 miles from their largest military school... how Pakistan must have laughed whiled they cashed each American check!

                                            The hell with Bush! Obama killed bin Laden! Bush couldn't care less! If fact, Bush wanted bin Laden alive - that meant mo0re money for Halliburton!

                                            • 2 votes
                                            #17.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:21 PM EDT

                                            EE,

                                            And what HAS Obama done? Ok...besides say "YES", go ahead and kill Osama... Has he reduced the national debt like he promised? NO Has he closed Gitmo like he promised? NO Has he implemented a comprehensive immigration policy? NO Has he lowered the unemployment rate below 8% like he promised? NO

                                            So, what has he done besides tell us over and over again about hope and change, and how he has been laser focused on the economy??

                                            To use your words...To hell with Obama!

                                              #17.4 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:40 PM EDT

                                              jim1455434 - I believe you mean the "dead carcass of Osama"

                                                #17.5 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:17 PM EDT
                                                Reply

                                                My opinion Mr. Romney can say what he wants but he better be ready to eat his words if it goes againist him.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                Reply#19 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                                                exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH is at it again! He can't do anything on his own but he sure as hell knows how to critizise our illustrious President Obama who speaks for the 99% American People, NOT LIKE EXLAX, who speaks for his corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY that has MADE SLAVES OF US! He's saying FIRST TERM WASTED, how about the 8 previous years of WASTED REPUBLICAN RULE! He just doesn't get it, does he? What a jerk! Just another DO NOTHING, BUT SAY EVERYTHING!

                                                99% American People, vote 100% STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC and let's get rid of trash like exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH! He's NOT A LEADER, HE'S A POLITICAL PUPPET!

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#20 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                                                Many of the low information Republican conservative folks don't understand facts. They just hate President Obama no matter what.

                                                However, I get great pleasure in knowing that President Obama is going to stick it to these Republicans by winning re-election, and helping to stop the dumb down of America crowd from advancing their empty suit Willard with the Nervous Nelly laugh.

                                                I also find it amazing that people, consisting of low information mind sets actually overlook the total lies that Flip Romney tells on a daily basic. I bet the new definition of “Snake Oil Salesmen,” is going to be listed as Willard M. Romney, aka Etch a Sketch Man.

                                                • 5 votes
                                                Reply#21 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                                                So your president is already mobilizing thousands of lawyers for the election.

                                                http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_LAWYERING_UP?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-06-26-12-58-13

                                                What makes this article even more interesting is that it cites the 2000 election and how Bush won by 537 votes and then has a democrat lawyer saying that if Gore had better attorneys, he would have won the election.

                                                That would be called 'stealing the election' right?

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #21.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:31 PM EDT

                                                Psalms 109:8&9 claim the fundamentalist Christians!!!!

                                                  #21.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:57 PM EDT
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                                                  Romney wants to eliminate Obama's HCR - OK - BUT what's your plan?????

                                                  NOTHING!! The only plan he has is to eliminate whatever Obama has done. That is why this Independent will vote for Obama - the Republicans have NO plans for ANYTHING and Romney has already proven he is a failure when it comes to running a state - what will he do with 50 of them????

                                                  • 6 votes
                                                  Reply#22 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                                                  If Romney outlined his plan today, you wouldn't remember it by the weekend.

                                                  • 3 votes
                                                  #22.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

                                                  Since he has no plan, we don't need to remember it for a nanosecond.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #22.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

                                                  By two to one people would rather have no reform rather than Obamacare, you'd think 2010 would give you a clue.

                                                    #22.3 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

                                                    Plan? Plan? Romney has a plan? Then what the hell is it? I'm sorry, Romney has no plan!

                                                    • 3 votes
                                                    #22.4 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:27 PM EDT

                                                    But Valhalla Phil the two to one ratio, those 2 can't even tell you whats in their own insurance policy let alone be able to tell you whether Obama care is good or not. Whish is the real problem, people have no clue what would improve their healthcare.

                                                    For example, everyone of those people have no idea that their primany care physician has done nothing to improve their health. That 90% of these physicians should be FIRED. and replaced with ones that will confront their patients and tell them to drop the FAT, get in shape, start eating right and then follow up with them and demand the patient conform to the outcomes. Or the patients FIRED.

                                                      #22.5 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:03 PM EDT

                                                      What you all fail to realize is that Romney believes in STATES RIGHTS and that the reason he opposed this version of health care is because it violates States Rights and tramples on the Constitution. If a State wants to require you to have health insurance, you probably would find Romney in that corner. This isn't about not letting you have health insurance, it is about a federal government takeover.

                                                        #22.6 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:58 PM EDT

                                                        Republicans have no plans, they don't know how to run government, they want simple legislations that allows certain individuals to run crazy within the petry dish called "free market enterprise" with no stipulations, no regulations, do whatever they want business. So therefore you can spill over a million gallons of brine fracking in North Dakota and sterilize large areas of land and report it to the understaffed North Dakota EPA as 26,000 gallons. Yeah, that's Repulican Rep. Paul Ryan government.

                                                          #22.7 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:50 PM EDT
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                                                          WASTED.....our President Obama has NOT wasted one second since we have had the good fortune to see him represent the United States of America! He has accomplished more than the media would admit!The right wing pundits will never give him credit!He has done it all Houdini style mostly...with his hands tied behind him by the corrupt congress, irresponsible republican Senators, and a loaded Supreme court! All of this is taking place while right winged bigots plott against him, take over each state, corrupt voting laws and allow the corporations and their money to rule against the people!

                                                          • 11 votes
                                                          Reply#23 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

                                                          Yea, $1.3 trillion deficits year after year with no end in sight, 9% average unemployment with no end in sight, record number on food stamps, even I didn't think he could accomplish that much!

                                                            #23.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

                                                            record number on food stamps

                                                            That would be George W. Bush. Who else put put so many employed people on food stamps?

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #23.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:30 PM EDT

                                                            It would also be called The Great Bush Depression starting in 2007.

                                                            • 1 vote
                                                            #23.3 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:14 AM EDT

                                                            Completely agreed. Don't let your children watch Por, I mean FOX news.

                                                              #23.4 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:15 AM EDT

                                                              If you call trampling on the Constitution doing something.....The man should be tried for high crimes against the country by breaking and ignoring the laws of the land and by being a dictator who thinks he tell everyone that they don't have to follow the law. He is a criminal.

                                                                #23.5 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:56 PM EDT

                                                                floridamom1. Since you are living in Florida (by your moniker), I can only think that your brain is fried from the heat.

                                                                  #23.6 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:11 PM EDT
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                                                                  I really wish reporters would read as many Republicans and Americans remember the following:

                                                                  In his 1974 State of the Union address, President Richard M. Nixon called for comprehensive health insurance.[19] On February 6, 1974, he introduced the Comprehensive Health Insurance Act. Nixon's plan would have mandated employers to purchase health insurance for their employees, and provided a federal health plan, similar to Medicaid, that any American could join by paying on a sliding scale based on income.

                                                                  Barack Obama was 13 years old and during the speech the Law Makers stood and cheered President Nixon's health plan. This is not an Obama plan this was done 38 years ago and it has just came to a bill. High Court must decide if Nixon's plan which was formed after the Social Security plan is unconstitutional. In short if the Justices do decide this Nixon plan is unconstitutional then all programs can be repealed. Mitt will be able to end SS Act and who knows pay checks will no longer have deductions for that program.

                                                                  • 3 votes
                                                                  Reply#24 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:14 PM EDT

                                                                  I can think of other ways Nixon and Obama are the same. What did Obama know about fast and furious and when did he know it? What did Obama know about the security leaks and when did he know it?

                                                                  Oops, perhaps comparing the two wasn't such a good idea after all.

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  #24.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                                                                  Obama can answer that when Bush answers the advanced Nuclear WMD that Saddam supposedly had, and the correlation of Haliburton with Dick Chaney and forcing us into Iraq, which had nothing really to do with Islamic terrorists.

                                                                  • 1 vote
                                                                  #24.2 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:18 AM EDT
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                                                                  "Wasted" is a very mild word to use whether or not the Supreme Court rejects this socialistic welfare plan. It may take years, if ever, to undo the damage Chavez Obama has done to this country. If Obama is reelected, this country may be "toast". If elected, Romney may not, or will not, be able to stem the tide of the special interest groups attacking America. "Change" is deperately needed before all "Hope" is lost.

                                                                  • 5 votes
                                                                  Reply#25 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                                                  Well, here's to hoping and praying President Obama wins his bid for Re-election! I know I'll sleep better knowing that jerks like yourself are having nightmares! lol

                                                                  • 7 votes
                                                                  #25.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

                                                                  It won't matter if he does win, republicans will increase in the house and easily take the senate. The most idiotic thing democrats did was foist Obamacare on us just before the census. Now all those new republican state houses are in control of redistricting. Oops! Proof positive liberals have no concept of unintended consequences.

                                                                  • 2 votes
                                                                  #25.2 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:17 PM EDT

                                                                  Valhuh?la Phil: Proof positive liberals have no concept of unintended consequences.

                                                                  First of - trolling for the special intererest groups? Insurance Industry lobbyist lackey perhaps?? Or just plain numbskull who just don't get it, that you and your ilk are just PAWNS of your ReTHUG overlords. Your party of NO is OWNED by the Koch Bros, the Adelsons, the Big mega business corps. that will run this country. All they want from you your vote to complete their power control, then they'll ditch you. Yeah vote against your best interest and you'll be in for a rude awakening.

                                                                  Best picture I've seen - female SENIOR citizen holding a large sign that says:

                                                                  NATION OF SHEEP

                                                                  RULED BY WOLVES

                                                                  OWNED BY PIGS

                                                                  **Sheep = right wing lemmings, wolves = RETHUGS/GOP, PIGS = Koch Bros, mega corps, big business.

                                                                    #25.3 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:37 AM EDT

                                                                    No more than a near decade of GWB and two waisted wars, no funding for it, and ridiculous tax breaks that did nothing to divert us from this GWB depression that started in 2007.

                                                                    • 2 votes
                                                                    #25.4 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:20 AM EDT

                                                                    whether or not the Supreme Court rejects this socialistic welfare plan.

                                                                    That would be our current system, and not want Obama wants.

                                                                    We already pay for all those that choose not to get coverage. You can't get anymore socialized than that.

                                                                    Why you still want to subsidise our out of control health care model is beyond me.

                                                                      #25.5 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:51 AM EDT

                                                                      You mean WE as in those of us who have health insurance have seen our premiums, deductibles and co-pays go up 350% in the last 10 years. We pay for the no-pays, and medicaids, and medicares. The good ole Republican "do nothing" to the health care system model. Notice it's a Democrat who brings up health care reform?? Notice never Republicans. Why? Would the AMA a special interest group of Republican ism have anything to do with it?

                                                                        #25.6 - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:44 PM EDT
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                                                                        All the Republicans have done is cock block every Obama move. Screw making the country better, they just don't want a black man to be president. Obama has more moral character and dignity that all of those lying rich bastards.

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                                                                        Reply#26 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:32 PM EDT

                                                                        Yawn.

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                                                                        #26.1 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:43 PM EDT
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                                                                        3 things..first, if Romney's own party members hadnt botched every effort to get reform done, then the issue isnt one anymore..alas, they did, and now Romney is trying to use it as if its Obama's fault...well Mitt, why was it YOUR party that continually voted no then?

                                                                        Second, his statement about it being a failure if it got struck down just goes to show how desperate he is. GM was saved, Osama was killed (along with much of Al Qaeda), and the unemployment rate went down..hardly a failure.

                                                                        Third, Its funny to me how he says he would strike down the healthcare law when he signed the same thing as Governor of MA! Uh Mitt, your actions dictate otherwise...

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                                                                        Reply#27 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:38 PM EDT
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