Well said Feisty! I guess until the Supremes rule on healthcare, we will have to content ourselves with the Willard Waffle on immigration. If curling is an Olympic sport, maybe they can make the Willard Waffle one as well.

I told my crew not to e mail me, but...

Anyway, had to log on, so here I am. Tell you all what - the white sand beaches are the bomb. The service here is ridiculous.

Google Secrets Maroma and clic on the web cam. In one hour I'll be the drunk MOFO on the third lounger to the left.

Cheers!

If curling is an Olympic sport,

Don't forget Willard & Annie's foray into horse ballet!

Interesting article over the weekend on how little Annie sold a lame horse who was beyond drugged up to hide it's condition...

If there was no wrong doing on her part - why did she settle?

If these two PETA nightmares aren't strapping dogs to the roof of the families woody- there doping horses!

When the company I worked for in the 80’s “out-sourced” it was to Mexico and Ireland.

Strapping dogs to the roof of the bus while throwing the country under it!

PS Spanky, enjoy your vacation.

I hope Romney outsourced more than 800,000 jobs because that's how many workers President Obama in-sourced last week.

@ AL in Visalia Ca #1.1, Quite the hypocrite there aren't you ? Let's see, in 2011, Barack Obama said he could not change immigration law on his own. He said he did not have the power to do that. I believe it was like July, 2011 or maybe September.Then, of course, as we get closer to election time and he is desperately PANDERING FOR VOTES .... Obama does what he said he could not do ! Obama waves his magic wand and rationalizes his way to declare he will not be enforcing EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAW and deporting about 800,000 illiegal immigrants !!

So, was Obama lying previously or is he lying now ?? Or is this what you libbies will spin as an "evolution" of his powers ???

Obama contradicting Obama .... gotta love it !!!

No Jim he's not lying, he just exercised one of his special options. And you and others seem so-o-o upset with.....tough......and why wouldn't he pander for votes, that's the American way. .....Just sayin'!

Out-Sourcing or Off-Shoring it the same "BS"!

This didn't happen overnight. It's been happening over the past 15-20 years, but the economy was kept going by middle class Americans tapping into the equity on their homes until they were completely tapped out.

We need whoever wins the next election to Start Protecting American Jobs and do whatever it takes to bring back the jobs they let go. They've got to give us somebody who will stand up for the American people.

We need to bring manufacturing back to the United States of America and both parties are ignoring tariffs as a way to level the playing field, raise money and bring jobs back home. Let's guess why. Oh that's right, tariff is a dirty word. Hum, maybe it’s that our so called leaders (political leaders) are beholden to the same people who are exporting our jobs.

I guess we should keep letting Corp Boards, Wall Street, CEOs and Foreign Lobbyists promote sending US jobs to countries where they work for slave wages, no benefits, no OSHA safety standards or no real environment regulations. How's that been working for us?

The so called “Global Market Place” is not a level playing field. Companies may have made higher profits by "out sourcing", but they've been putting middle class Americans who are a good part of the world’s customer base out of work.

It shouldn't be all about Democrats or Republicans!

It should be about doing the right thing for our country and
the majority of its citizens. I consider myself an independent voter, but going
back to the Reagan days and with the only exception having been Perot, I’ve
always voted Republican. But all this single-minded, left versus right,
ideological one dimensional bull has got to go! This is the problem with our
country. It shouldn't be about Democrats or Republicans! It should be about
Americans, especially our elected officials, doing the right thing for our
country and its citizens.

Both parties have sold out the bulk of the American citizens,
who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the "out-sourcing"
floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem
the tide. (Under Clinton jobs to China, Under Bush I & II influx of
illegals or cheap easily abused labor into the US and jobs to Mexico/NAFTA) Our
leaders are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to
represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself. They are NOT
elected by the Global Market Place or foreign citizens!

We need whoever wins the next election to Start Protecting
American Jobs and do whatever it takes to bring back the jobs they let go.
They've got to give us somebody who will stand up for the American people.

We need to bring manufacturing back to the United States of
America and both parties are ignoring tariffs as a way to level the playing
field, raise money and bring jobs back home. Let's guess why. Oh that's right,
tariff is a dirty word. Hum, maybe it’s that our so called leaders (political
leaders) are beholden to the same people who are exporting our jobs.

I guess we should keep letting Corp Boards, Wall Street, CEOs
and Foreign Lobbyists promote sending US jobs to countries where they work for
slave wages, no benefits, no OSHA safety standards or no real environment
regulations. How's that been working for us?

The so called “Global Market Place” is not a level playing
field. Companies may have made higher profits by "out sourcing", but
they've been putting middle class Americans who are a good part of the world’s
customer base out of work. I’m not a lefty or member of any union. I run a business
that employs over 20 people and produces products that are purchased by
customers that do manufacturing and packaging. I’m just an average Joe, but
I've been saying this for more than 10 years now. If I can see it, so can our
so called leaders (political leaders) who are beholden to the same people who
are exporting our jobs.

We need to add tariffs that are proportionate to the inequities
in wages and regulations in the country where the goods were produced and or
where we’re importing them from. We could then use the money raised by these
tariffs to help companies build state of the art manufacturing plants here in
the USA, which would create more jobs here at home for US citizens, which would
then in turn increase our income tax revenue.

The people with all of the excuses as to why we can’t or aren’t
willing to manufacture products here in the US are the same people who have
provided us with the thinking that’s gotten us into this mess in the first
place.

Over the past 15-20 years, I've seen too many of our customer's
close manufacturing plants here in the USA and move those plants to different
countries, decimating entire areas here in OUR COUNTRY. And I'm not alone.
Returning jobs to American Citizens will provide income tax revenue to OUR Government
versus our government having to pay unemployment benefits to those who would be
jobless instead.

Bringing manufacturing back to the US not only gives jobs to
the US citizens who would be working in those manufacturing facilities, but to
the people that would be working in the businesses that would spring up all
around them. This should also include the safe harvesting, production and
distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for
fuel from countries where they hate us. Let’s keep that money and those jobs
here in the US.

These so-called “free trade agreements” have to go. It was
obvious when they were passing these agreements as to what was going to happen
and sure enough it did. Our leaders had to have known this as well when they
were passing these bills. It’s just common sense. We also need to bring
customer support services back to the United States of America and staff them
with employees who are US Citizens.

The “Global Market Place” is not a level playing field! The
whole idea of the tariffs is so we can pay our factory workers a decent wage
and not be blown out by these other countries where they don’t play by the same
rules.

We may have to pay a bit more for products made here in the USA
by US citizens, but at least we'll still have jobs and a future for our
children.

The bottom line is that “Our Government” has to protect
American industry and the jobs that those industries provide. If they do that,
the rest will take care of itself.

All this single-minded, left versus right, ideological one
dimensional bull has got to go! This is the problem with our country.

It shouldn't be about Democrats or Republicans! It should be
about Americans, especially our elected officials, doing the right thing for
our country and its citizens.

It doesn’t matter who fixes it – Just Fix It.

Spanky!

Nice digs. Beautiful place. All inclusive is the only way to go. I will have to remember that one for February....cause us Michigan folk only head that way in the winter. You must be under the lounger by now, cause I don't see ya and its only been 30min...HA. have a great time.

Queen Feisty does it again. What a way to run your life, sitting there, hitting F5 or refreshing and get to post first. I pity you girlfriend and any other that is so fanatic. Congratulations Beisty

Please stop grasping at straws about Bain and outsourcing. Outsourcing has been in existence for at least 40 years. The Embroidery Factories were one of the first to go to other countries.

By the way Bain Capital also goes to companies to concilidate duplicated Applications that do the same thing. They came to the Company that I work for and left. No one was laid off or fire.

Let's see, in 2011, Barack Obama said he could not change immigration law on his own. He said he did not have the power to do that. I believe it was like July, 2011 or maybe September.

How about you go with the whole statement the President gave in that interview and not just the part that Sean Hannity (Fat As A Manatee, FOX News Insanity) wants you to hear, okay?

I just have to continue to say this notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively. But the fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there’s been a great disservice done to the cause of getting the DREAM Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things is just not true. What we can do is to prioritize enforcement — since there are limited enforcement resources — and say, we’re not going to go chasing after this young man or anybody else who has been acting responsibly, and would otherwise qualify for legal status if the DREAM Act passed.

Do you want to know my favorite quote of the day?

"President Obama has failed to provide any leadership on immigration." - Mitt Romney

Are you kidding me? Mitt Romney, who in the blue hell do you think you are calling out the President saying he has failed to lead? Have you even formulated your own opinion on whether or not you agree with the President's enforcement policy yet, ya jackwagon???

Etch-A-Sketch 2012!!!!

Why are all the liberals so concerned about "off-shoring" and "outsourcing" to other countries when we have a president and his administration who is siding with foreign countries AGAINST his own country and it's states? From what I can see, you people are fully in favor of other countries concerns taking precedence over our sovereignty and laws.

By the way. I love how you Dumbfux were spinning it this morning. The main part of the law that so outraged you people because it supposedly means "racial profiling" (which is a MYTH anyway) was upheld. And you claim victory? You're all pathetic Obama groupies and nothing more.

[From what I can see, you people are fully in favor of other countries concerns taking precedence over our sovereignty and laws]

That's because you are blinded by bigotry and hatred.

Home Land Security has already cut back on deportation over a year ago. Why President Obama decided to announce it now, is anyone's guess.

Under growing pressure from open borders groups that accuse the Obama Administration of removing too many illegal aliens, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in early 2011 began to implement formal measures to relax the enforcement of U.S. immigration laws. DHS has set forth its new policies regarding removal in a series of memos issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton. Together, these memos constitute nothing less than the granting of administrative amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens currently in the United States.

On March 2, 2011, ICE Director John Morton issued a policy memo to ensure that his agency would only enforce the law against a specific subset of illegal aliens by setting forth new priorities for the apprehension, detention, and removal of illegal aliens. This subset, according to Director Morton, includes:

1. Aliens who pose a danger to national security or are a risk to public safety;
2. Illegal aliens who have recently entered the U.S.; and
3. Aliens who are fugitives or "otherwise obstruct immigration controls."

Under this memo, ICE's priorities do not include the vast majority of illegal aliens currently in the United States — i.e. those who have neither been convicted of a crime or have been caught and absconded. Although the memo states that nothing in it shall be construed "to prohibit or discourage" enforcement of U.S. immigration laws in general, it concludes that "resources should be committed primarily to advancing the priorities set above."

On June 17, 2011, ICE Director John Morton issued two policy memos. The first was intended to discourage ICE agents from enforcing U.S. immigration laws against illegal aliens who would qualify for the DREAM Act — amnesty legislation that Congress voted down in both October 2007 and December 2010. In the memo, Morton writes that due to a lack of resources, the agency "must regularly exercise 'prosecutorial discretion' if it is to prioritize its efforts." Morton states that appropriate moments to exercise prosecutorial discretion include:

1. Deciding whom to stop, question, or to arrest for being unlawfully in the country;
2. Deciding whom to detain or release;
3. Settling or dismissing a proceeding; and
4. Executing a removal order.

According to Morton, appropriate factors to consider when exercising prosecutorial discretion include:

• ICE's civil immigration enforcement priorities (i.e. the memo from March 2, 2011);
• The alien's length of presence in the U.S.;
• Whether the alien came as a young child;
• The alien's pursuit of education in the U.S. , with particular consideration to those who have graduated from a U.S. high school or are pursuing a college or advanced degree;
• Whether the alien or the alien's immediate relative has served in the U.S. military;
• The alien's criminal history; and
• The alien's ties and contributions to the community.

These are all eligibility criteria for amnesty under the DREAM Act, legislation which Congress specifically rejected in both October 2007 and December 2010. Moreover, the June 17th memo encourages ICE agents to take steps to exercise favorable discretion early on — without waiting for an alien or his lawyer to request it. As Morton states, "[T]he universe of prosecutorial discretion is large."

Damage123 - and it's the only time I'll address you because you clearly are damaged. Our President has never sided with foreign countries AGAINST the US. Your lies and stupidity must be related to the voices you hear. Please just take your meds and go rest.

You need to re-read the AZ decision. No one may be stopped just because someone thinks they may be illegal. They have to be stopped because they are breaking the law. Did no one explain to you what that means? You're so totally out of touch with reality!

Please stop grasping at straws about Bain and outsourcing. Outsourcing has been in existence for at least 40 years. The Embroidery Factories were one of the first to go to other countries.

Speaking of outsourcing and off-shoring jobs, I see Faux News, Rove and A.L.E.C. are still employing unconcerned non-citizens as trolls on this site.

Jim, I'm glad to see Obama use his executive power in the face of an obstructionist Congress. Looks like he finally got over this quaint notion that if he were to reach out to Republicans and include some of their ideas (ie individual mandate, cap and trade among others) they would meet him half way and they could get things accomplished.

Besides, has the immigration laws actually changed? Didn't the INS have the ability to issue work permits and prioritize whom they would be able to deport all along? Please keep playing the "lying hypocrite" card Jim, because that shows you are holding a losing hand!

Danoid, you just prove the Republicans point. Are you ok? the key phrase is and would otherwise qualify for legal status if the DREAM Act passed.

Danoid, Mr President got ahead of himself in order to save his face by doing exactly what he said he would not do.

Let's see, in 2011, Barack Obama said he could not change immigration law on his own. He said he did not have the power to do that. I believe it was like July, 2011 or maybe September.

How about you go with the whole statement the President gave in that interview and not just the part that Sean Hannity (Fat As A Manatee, FOX News Insanity) wants you to hear, okay?

I just have to continue to say this notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively. But the fact of the matter is there are laws on the books that I have to enforce. And I think there’s been a great disservice done to the cause of getting the DREAM Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow, by myself, I can go and do these things is just not true. What we can do is to prioritize enforcement — since there are limited enforcement resources — and say, we’re not going to go chasing after this young man or anybody else who has been acting responsibly, and would otherwise qualify for legal status if the DREAM Act passed.

Damage@ Why are all the liberals so concerned about "off-shoring" and "outsourcing" to other countries when we have a president and his administration who is siding with foreign countries AGAINST his own country and it's states?

Hey Slingblade - Name some instances where O sided with another country over ours. I'm sure you listen to enough Limbaugh that you can name at least one. C'mon idiot, give it your best shot....

Mickey- I'm sorry. You're RACE CARD has been declined. Would you like to try another card? No, you would not. Because you HAVE NO OTHER CARD. Crying "racism" is the first resort of scoundrels...and liberals.

Seeking- why should I re-read the AZ law when AG Eric "fast n Furious" Holder hasn't even read it once? By the way, from now on, you will address me as "Mr. Damage", you understand me, boy?

Sorry Al, No losing hand here, this is merely another example of Obama "FLIP-FLOPPING" on an issue. What he said he could not do previously, he now says it could be done .... and just in the nick of time.... six month before elections.

The hypocrisy is that you, in post #1.1, like to talk about Mitt "the Willard Waffle on Immigration" when here is a clear cut case of Obama contradicting Obama. Barack should be the poster boy for Waffle House !

How many companies have outsourced jobs as a direct result of the Anti-Business regulations of the Obama Administration? The millions of jobs outsourced from 2009 - 2012 way outnumber those that occurred during Romney's time at Bain!

Check this site out: www.economyincrisis.org

www.economyincrisis.org/content/protectionism-matter-self-survival#comment-6632

Too bad we'll never see these types of articles in the mainstream media

Most US Citizens are not as concerned about the "Global Economy" as they are about being able to earn a living, their children's future and the future of our country. The people with all of the excuses as to why we can't use tariffs and can't or aren't willing to manufacture products here in the US are the same people who have provided us with the thinking that's gotten us into this mess in the first place.

Unfortunately our political leaders are unlikely to do right by the United States Citizens that elected them, because they and or their parties are beholden to the same people who have been exporting our industries and our jobs.

Outsourcing can be domestic, for example payroll services, HR recruiting, or even information technology service contracts. This can be helpful for small businesses. But most folks would refer to this as "business services," not outsourcing.

Another form of domestic outsourcing is contract work. Once again, this has been referred to as "consulting," and typically high-paying.

But now outsourcing means "try before you buy" to avoid labor laws like unemployment insurance and to avoid paying benefits. This, along with other practices like opting for low-paying telemarketers instead of sales managers, or job descriptions saying a college degree is preferred rather than required--all are ways to lower wages as well.

Outsourcing has become synonymous with off-shoring, including good paying technical jobs. Sadly as the high-tech jobs have gone to places like India, the low-paying call centers are all that's coming back to the US.

Romney exemplifies the mentality of profits for the shareholders at the expense of workers. Labor in the US needs to organize if American workers want wages to rise along with productivity the way it used to. Why rightwingers are so anti-union is mind bending. I guess they like that wages have been stagnant for the last 40 years while CEO pay has skyrocketed. Income inequality = Romney/GOP.

Romney -- He's not in it for you.

The President is showing his ignorance on what it takes for a business to survive and be profitable. That is also in terms of how he is running the Federal government. Without conditions to include any acts of congress, the President has promised that the 2012 Federal deficit will not exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet his own White House is predicting that the Federal deficit will exceed what the President has promised by a factor of more than 5. I estimate that this extra trillion dollars that the federal government is spending will end up costing the tax payers more than 9 trillion dollars once it is all paid back. The Obama White House is also predicting that massive deficits will continue for at least another decade. If Obama were at the helm of a private company he would have been fired long ago. It is us tax payers who will have to pay for our President's shortcomings. The fiscal year is more than half over and the President has yet to explain to the American people how he is going to keep his promise regarding the deficit.

Don't forget Willard & Annie's foray into horse ballet!

So, tell me, who is against women now? Mrs. Romney rides horses to help treat her MS. Riding horses is a proven therapy to combat the effect of MS. If my wife had MS you had better believe I would get her a horse to ride, and the best one I could afford (which isn't much on a public school teacher's salary [thank you teacher's union for taking so much out of my pay each month]).

So the horse helps her MS. The Romney family can afford it without being a burden on the tax payer. But you don't want her to have it.

Your jealousy is showing.

RestoreUSmfg, HereInUSA, etc. -- I don't care for false equivalency. There is a lesser of two evils, and that is the Dems and the president who have taken a hit for their stand against Wall Street. While Romney lies about getting tough on China, the president has actually gotten tough with tariffs as well as undervaluing their currency, stealing intellectual property, etc.

The Race to the Bottom crowd -- that's the Teapublicans. They want you to accept lower wages to attract manufacturing in the US. Romney wants zero corporate tax rates. The GOP/TP argue for no regulations, no minimum wage, no organized labor. Heck, the day they support a mandate for employers to use a reliable eVerify system to end illegal labor is the day pigs will fly.

The effective corporate tax rate in the US is no higher than other countries, and over-regulation, along with "Obamacare" and all the other fear mongering is BS. If US companies were so constrained by these things, then why are they making record profits? Historic record profits!!!

Anyone who would vote for a plutocrat like Romney has got to be a few bricks short of a load.

Versys -- Who gives a sh!t about Ann's horse other than Romney using the horse as a business tax write off. What's wrong with you people? Yeh, let's talk about Romney's taxes!

Mrs. Romney rides horses to help treat her MS. Riding horses is a proven therapy to combat the effect of MS.

Give me a @!$%#ing break - little orphan Annie couldn't ride a slummy quarter horse to help her MS?

But...NOOOO - she needed damn horse which she could write off $ 77K on their tax returns last year!

On top of the fact she doesn't even RIDE that horse - she's too busy drugging them!

Thank YOU so much for proving the stuck on stupid crowd is alive & thriving!

SCREW little Annie & her MS - this broad has a Cadillac health care plan to help her cope with it... which is much MORE then the average citizen can say!

Your jealousy is showing.

I carry NO jealousy... but morons like you wouldn't recognize the truth if it bit you on your fat ass!

[Mickey- I'm sorry. You're RACE CARD has been declined. Would you like to try another card? No, you would not. Because you HAVE NO OTHER CARD. Crying "racism" is the first resort of scoundrels...and liberals.]

Damaged, show me where I used "the race card". I merely said you were blinded by bigotry and hatred...there is a H-U-G-E difference.

Unless, of course, you have a guilty conscience.

You DO know the difference between bigotry and racism, don't you?

Sure you do...

So, you know what she was thinking when the horse was purchased? Maybe we can say that anyone who adopts a retired race horse or greyhound is not really in it to help out the animal. They MUST be in it for the money. Right? So, I can't give to charity and claim it on my taxes? Nope, can't do that, that would show how I'm only in it for the money.

she needed damn horse which she could write off $ 77K on their tax returns last year!

So she NEEDED the money? I guess I must be confused, don't all of the left leaning people on here think that Romney already has enough money? But you claim she NEEDED the money.

Don't pretend to know why someone else is doing what they are doing. For all you REALLY know, Mrs. Romney did buy the horse for her illness and the tax write-off was just an extra bonus. When was the last time you spoke with her and asked her about it?

You don't know the hearts and minds of other people, regardless of how much you think you do. I don't agree with the things Obama is doing to our country, but I won't claim to know what he really thinks and feels in his heart.

See, I can disagree with you and not resort to name calling. Can you say the same?

Who gives a sh!t about Ann's horse other than Romney using the horse as a business tax write off. What's wrong with you people? Yeh, let's talk about Romney's taxes!

I'm not the one who brought it up. But since it was brought up by someone else it is fair game to comment on.

Isn't that what a forum is for? Bringing up topics and allowing others to comment about them. Shouldn't this be a sharing of ideas?

Sadly, it seems like most people just use this forum as a place to spout off. Some people must think that whomever shouts the loudest is the winner. I hate it when things turn into a giant virtual pissing match.

Go for it Mr. President, hammer away at the vulture capitalist. Make his life a nightmare, until the ex governor yells Uncle.

When is Obama gonna sieze on to the fact that he has been aiding and abetting the criminals at Goldman Sachs and especially His money budler John Corzine? Where are the billions Mr Corzine?

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Who else is fascinated with the fancy new buzz word Team Willard is tossing around; "off-shoring"?

Off-shoring is what Willard does with his millions, while, out-sourcing is what Willard does to jobs!

actually Feisty, President Obama has the right terminology. "Outsourcing" has been widely used but not properly. Outsourcing does not equal to sending jobs to China. It's contracting a process to another company (like HR for example) but it could be done within the US. Off-shoring means relocating that company's business, such as manufacturing, to another country.

Versys

So, tell me, who is against women now? Mrs. Romney rides horses to help treat her MS. Riding horses is a proven therapy to combat the effect of MS.

That's great that riding horses is a proven therapy for those who can afford the best doctors, best medicine and the horse riding.

Most people, and especially the elderly, must choose between eating and buying medication. So please, stop comparing Ann Romney to every woman in this country. She is nothing like them and she has never experienced what most experience.

Will Haas

The President is showing his ignorance on what it takes for a business to survive and be profitable.

then you can say that President Obama's "ignorance" is paying off because companies are enjoying record profits.

How does that compare to the "business friendly" Republicans that have never had ' corporate record profits during their tenure' on their resume?

Mitt Romney didn't invent outsourcing, wo what really is the point? Is it illegal?

sirie, apparently you are happy that Romney's Bain made billions investing in companies that taught others to send American jobs overseas.

I will not vote for a politician who destroys American jobs by sending them overseas.

In case you haven't read about Governor Romney, he fired Massachusetts call center workers and sent their jobs to India.

I had to buy a new outdoor hose this weekend. I proudly bought the one that was Made In America. No one is forced to buy American, but I was raised to stand by the military and to stand by Americans, not workers in China and India (like Governor Romney has done for 20 years).

Nothing illegal in Romney supporting workers in India and China. If you would rather see a vet without a job, keep supporting Romney.

@ Debbie I am not happy when anyone does it, but to be fair why do you not call out Jeff Immelt?

Show me where Romney taught other companies to ship jobs offshore Debbie...

sirie, have you read the business insider lately? (www. businessinsider.com/barack-obama-mitt-romney-bain-capital-private-equity-outsourcing-offshouring-2012-6)

Even if he didn't directly teach others, Bain's methodolgy WHILE he was there was copied by other private equity investment firms.

Romney did what it took to get the job done. The President does not seem to understand that. If businesses keep running huge deficits they end up going bankrupt. I guess that the President believes that Greece is going to bail us out.

Nice try NoLimit. I am not saying he invented it. I am simply stating that the WP already did. He was a PIONEER in the practice. In addition, it is Romney that wants to make his time (and, therefore, his ACTIONS) at Bain the center of his supposed qualifications for office. It did not do MA any good, nor will that experience do America any good.

Go back to Faux News and see if they can give you something better to parrot that actually makes a cogent argument.

You Liberals act as if Romney invented outsourcing

Willard might not have invented it but, he sure excelled at it...

Pioneer in the practice, what a crock. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law and millions of jobs have left our shores as a result. There are plenty that have moved jobs overseas, including those run by Democrats. But at the cost of doing business in the US, who would blame them? I think we need someone in the White House that understands why the jobs left, and not someone that can only come up with campaign slogans and catch phrases.

Didn't we hear about Romney outsourcing call center jobs while he was governor? His state was 47th down from 37th in job creation and he sent jobs overseas while his state needed them.

Once again proved by the Ryan budget tax cuts for Romney and the richest in our nation are more important than jobs and the economic security of America.

Vote for a republican to protect the rich from fair taxes or vote for a secure America, your choice.

Rick,

I agree that NAFTA did not turn out to be the boon to America and American jobs that we were told it would be. At the same time, however, the American economy created over 23 million new jobs and we enjoyed some of the best prosperity ACROSS THE BOARD than we have enjoyed for over a decade now.

If the Republican cabal would quit trying to damage Obama (at the expense of the entire country), then maybe we could enjoy that kind of prosperity again.

[Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law...]

This may be true, but Clinton merely ratified it, as it was a done deal. NAFTA was a Republican cluster-f*ck from day one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

People move their businesses for a reason. Mainly regulations and taxes.

Utter bullcrap - businesses outsource/offshore for one reason only; to increase profits.

If people are against outsourcing, stop buying from Walmart. If not, cry in someone else's beer.

This may be true, but Clinton merely ratified it, as it was a done deal

Do you people ever, and I mean EVER, take responsibi;lity for ANYTHING?

These so-called “free trade agreements” have to go. It was obvious when they were passing these agreements as to what was going to happen and sure enough it did. Our leaders had to have known this as well when they were passing these bills. It’s just common sense. We also need to bring customer support services back to the United States of America and staff them with employees who are US Citizens.

The “Global Market Place” is not a level playing field! The whole idea of the tariffs is so we can pay our factory workers a decent wage and not be blown out by these other countries where they don’t play by the same rules.

We may have to pay a bit more for products made here in the USA by US citizens, but at least we'll still have jobs and a future for our children.

The bottom line is that “Our Government” has to protect American industry and the jobs that those industries provide. If they do that, the rest will take care of itself.

All this single-minded, left versus right, ideological one dimensional bull has got to go!

This is the problem with our country.

It shouldn't be about Democrats or Republicans!

It should be about Americans, especially our elected officials, doing the right thing for our country and its citizens.

[Do you people ever, and I mean EVER, take responsibi;lity for ANYTHING?]

So, WhiteCollarCriminal, do you disagree that NAFTA was a Republican clusterf*ck?

No, you don't...because you know damned well that my statement is true.

...and just what do you mean by "you people"?

And after you're done explaining your ignorant comment, how about returning to your desk and designing a car that Americans would actually WANT to buy...

[Romney started the NAFTA ball rolling]

I think you mean Ronnie Raygun, perhaps?

Debbie, it wouldn't surprised me if they were doing this already. Just think, a limitless supply of attack ads produced at 1/3 the cost. It is the Republican way!

Same could be said about GE....

GE – the company headed by Republican Jeffrey Immelt

GE headed by President Obama's appointed advisor on Council of Jobs and Competiveness.

LOL even his wikipedia lists his political affiliation as "Claims to be Republican"

And, with the SCOTUS ruling that Montana is not able to prevent super PAC money, look for the Chinese to be among Romney's biggest donors. After all, where do you think many of the jobs out-sourced/off-shored will end up? China must be licking their chops at the prospect of a Romney Presidency.

PAC money, look for the Chinese to be among Romney's biggest donors.

Disgusted,

Long time no see - glad you're back!

How about the billions Sheldon Adleson's is making off of his Macau casino?

Thanks Feisty! Good to be back. :)

Yeah, Macau and many other countries are now just salivating to buy the next round of "public" servants.

Obama is the one running after over seas money. Why are you such a racist?

Why are you such a racist?

Why are you such a troll?

• Post to get emotional responses from other
posters.

• Always post the same tired responses in response to the same tired topics.

• Never answer questions directed at them.

• Never justify their position.

• Always demanded documentary evidence from others to support their assertions,
while offering none in return.

• Always disappear if their bluff is called.

Obama is the one running after over seas money.

Of course you have proof of this... right?

Why are you such a racist?

You just keep looking at your self in the mirror.

Feisty Dumbfux- Your post above at 5.5 is a DEAD-ON, exact description of your 24/7 life here on First Read. Did you realize that when you posted it? Of course not.

Job1- It's been raining a lot here lately. I know you libs would like me to hire an illegal alien to mow my lawn but I'm giving YOU the opportunity! See how nice I am? It's a great chance for you to make a few $$$ and maybe get your nose out of Feisty Dumbfux tail section for a few hours. Whaddaya say? I'm always trying to help out the slackers get their lives turned around.

Romney's PACS are already receiving Saudi money through the US Chamber.

LOL Damage, well said!

I think it is funny how Outsourcing is now the only thing that Obama supporters have. And who says that Romney pioneered outsourcing?

Probably the same people that go to Walmart to get that 55" tv they have to have, made in China but they don't care then, just when it is convienient for them to gripe.

I think it is funny

I think it's funny you think you're fooling anyone with your "I'm an independent bull@!$%#"!

Sure ya are! *wink wink*

I'm not fooling anybody Feisty. You may be fooling yourself, but I'm about as sick of the nutjobs on both sides. Why this country has to cater to the right or left is beyond me, but I guess that makes me a "bad person"?

but I guess that makes me a "bad person"?

Well yes... I tend to consider phonies as what they are!

Why are you so ashamed to just admit you lean right?

People might have a bit more respect for someone who is able to tell the truth!

If by "leaning right" you mean I hold a core set of values, then you are right. But by all means, I have argued against far right policies and posts as much as far left policies.

I'm not a party line voter like you, so you think I'm the anti christ? Maybe, just maybe I'm not blind to both parties weaknesses there Feisty...

Seriously? You are trying to compare a $1.5 million loss to Obama's $500 Million dollar loss?????

[Seriously? You are trying to compare a $1.5 million loss to Obama's $500 Million dollar loss?????]

Hypocrisy is hypocrisy, is it not? Or just when it suits your agenda...but I can understand how you would want to split hairs, as you see this as some sort of game.

So, did you miss the point of the post by accident, or merely convenience?

Ok Mickey, Let's get our news outlets to report the facts in a fair and balanced way using the same number of words for each candidate: Romney invests in solar power company and loses $1.5 million---Obama invests in solar Power company and loses $500 Million.

Are you Happy now????

[Are you Happy now????]

As long as you're agreeing that hypocrisy is hypocrisy...after all, you do like to point out hypocrisies, correct?

Sure..........

Mickey - UAWPleeeeeease didn't bother to read it because it proves he's being an idiot! Again!

Mickey, The article says his backing of the company occurred in 2003. It's now 2012 buckaroo, so I am sure Mitt Romney was personally responsible for eveerything that happened in those last 9 years, right ? And this company lost $1.5 million, huh ?

Compare that to a loss of $535 million .... did Solyndra make it 9 months after those ill-advised federal loans ? A year ??

Mickey

Romney recommends a $1.5 million loan to a solar company back in 2003. Obama provides a $535 million loan to Solyndra in 2010 despite analysts WARNING him it would fail and you say Romney is hypocritical? At least Kanarka lasted 9 years and actually EMPLOYED people during that time. Besides a photo op for Obama and Biden what did we get from Solyndra? H Besides the four this year how many other solar companies that Obama touted have gone bankrupt? Despite that Obama still promotes solar power as a feasible source of energy! Will you agree that a MORON is a MORON?

I'm totally voting for a change in 2012.

Democrats across the entire ticket.

(I voted for a republican city councilman in 2010. Dude turned out to be a worthless schlub)

What made you think he was so worthless?

His reliance on failed PPP's, and developer handouts.

He's only fiscally conservative when it comes to returning taxpayer dollars to taxpayers.

0 problems handing it out to developers though.

The typical Republican tale in congress, but I thought more local representation would call to more moderate archetypes.

I was wrong.

Thankfully I'm a millenial (by 4 months), and have plenty more decades in front of me to not vote for republicans at any level (including dog-catcher).

The 'generation gap' exemplified.

UAWPleeeeeease - yep - we'll be voting out as many Republicans as we possibly can so we can get things moving again!

teknishan - oh please - especially not dog catcher!

No, it's a serious issue.

I'm relatively young (30), and come from a social conservative family.

We cancel each other out. The boomers vote one way, my generation votes another.

Too much reliance on propoganda and not enough independant research going around.

And the wrong battles.

Who cares about solyndra, that's not an issue to me at all. So Obama blew 500Million...so what? Congress (as a whole) blew over 2T on wars against 'concepts'.

That's somehow comparable on the sin-chart? No...

Or the entire post-office issue. "They're underwater!"

Not really. They were given 5 years to pre-pay 100% retirement. That's udnerwater? Sounds like sabotage to me.

The millenials that I know of, at least (middle class suburbia), are much more willing to research. Those who vote, vote informed. And they vote democrat.

Sadly a lot of us don't vote, yet, but not all have turned 18. And many haven't groomed into real 'adults'. I got lucky to join the navy, start a business, get a degree. A lot haven't been so lucky. But I just don't see what the (R) offers to me at all on a personal level.

More wars? No thanks.

Less environmental regulation? No thanks, I've got 60 more years on this planet.

More jobs? They haven't been able to produce, yet, but the democrats historically have.

Family Values? No...family values are tolerance and love. "Golden Rule" and all that. I'm way pro-gay marriage and pro-choice. No one has the right to make decisions that affect morality, for another person.

They just don't have anything but some mighty fine propoganda.

Both parties are corrupt, and maybe in your lifetime you will see a revolution. Until then, we really just vote for the lesser of two evils, and they are both in the 1% trying to make us believe that they care about any of us.

thats my two cents worth...

Yes and No.

I can occassionally find a good Democrat.

But the only times I thought I found a good Republican, I got burned.

So it leaves me in the position thinking that 'there are at least a few good Democrats, but all Republicans are terrible.'

That's enough reason, right there, to never vote for the Elephant.

@Tek Then you don't live in the great state of Illinois....

Romney's record of management is string of deliberately failed businesses that he and his cronies looted while putting 1000s out of work. If you think that is a good model for America, you are delusional beyond belief. By the way, I've been working since I've been 10 years old, I just didn't have a rich daddy to bankroll my education for me. I had to work for it myself. That was hard as Hel and the Republicans want to make it harder. They are doing their damnedest to push this country towards a feudal system and people like you are helping them. I have to ask. Doesn't it bother you when the Romneys of the world sit in their country clubs and laugh at the stupidity of people who vote against their own economic interest?

[Romney's record of management is string of deliberately failed businesses that he and his cronies looted while putting 1000s out of work.]

That's perfectly fine with RSR...it wasn't HIS job that was eliminated...besides, according to RSR we should run the country like a business...so Mittens can run IT into the ground as well.

RSR;

You're welcome that you get to hang out and pretend you are a manager or successful, when the mere fact you can't close out an email/message correctly shows anyone with vague ambition or aspiration that you're not being fully honest in trying to highlight your career highs.

Also.

"You're welcome" is the correct spelling.

You're welcome for the lesson, too.

Now, please, learn to close out a message.

The closing is, after all, the most important part.

Interesting take on it by Factchecker.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/lemon-picking-bain-capital-obama-style/

It was better than what Obama has done. He has demolished the American dream Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago? The overwhelming answer is NO!!!

Its the economy STUPID!

Why is fiesty such a racist?

RedSoxRule - you're crazy. Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago? The overwhelming answer is YES!

It is the economy STUPID. And, although we could have done better had the GOP not blocked everything, we will do better over the next 4!

Obama/Biden 2012 Why are you such an idiot?

RedSoxRule- Keep drinking the GOP Koolaid, and listen to FUX NEWS!!

Fiesty isn't racist, but the GOP sure the hell is!!

Nah man.

I'm way better off now than I was 4 years ago.

But not as good as 2 years ago.

2009-2010 were definitely the best years in the last decade.

Changing demographics.

30 years ago, the white-male vote was enough to get elected. You won by 10pts with white males, you won the presidency.

That's no longer the case.

Now you'd need both white males AND white females...and females don't jive too well with the (R)ominee.

Mitt's going to win on the votes of the politically centric. He doesn't play the race game. He figures people are smart enough to figure out for themselves what a train wreck Obama has been.

The President made the promise therefore it shall be done because after all, he is the President of the United States of America. Please have faith in our President. All hail the Chief!

That's the jest of things.