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Subscribe to RSSWith less than two weeks to go before student-loan interest rates are slated to double, President Obama urged his frequent foil, the “do-nothing Congress,” to extend the low rates before the July 1st deadline.
Addressing a group of college students in the East Room of the White House, the president said despite his efforts, Congress has remained obstinate on the issue.
“We've been stuck watching Congress play chicken with another deadline,” he said.
Susan Walsh / AP
President Barack Obama greets students after he called on Congress to stop interest rates on student loans from doubling next month during a news conference in the East Room of the White House in Washington.
But earlier, during Thursday’s daily briefing, press secretary Jay Carney suggested the administration is bridging the gap with Republicans over how to pay for the extension. While Democrats want to cut subsidies for oil-and-gas companies, Republicans have suggested raising the amount federal employees contribute to their retirement accounts or adjusting state Medicaid payments.
“We’re getting to a point where we can hopefully reach an agreement that everybody can sign onto,” he said during the daily White House briefing.
But Carney refused to specify the congressional Republicans with whom the administration is working, even as one reporter noted that House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) say the White House hasn’t reached out to them.
“I don't have specific names for you to provide," Carney said. "It is irrelevant whether or not I have a roster of names.”
But, he continued, a deal would, in fact, be the result of bipartisan -- if nameless at first -- work.
“It will not be a miraculous conception," Carney said. "It will be the result of negotiations between this administration and Congress."
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Yes, GOP is the party of playing chicken. Hostage-holding, debt-ceiling, you name it.
NO-COMPROMISE and obstruction, as per their pledge in January 2009. Don't kid yourself. This is the GOP/Koch party, how it is now.
NOW GOP/Koch is playing chicken with student loan interest, that goes up for millions of students at the end of this month.
R congressionals only act on behalf of the very top income earners and corporations.
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McConnell and co. demand 60 votes for every measure since 2009. Even if it's something GOP was previously for, they will voted 100% against if the President want to move it forward.
No price is to high for GOP...they are ready to RISK US AND RISK IT ALL.
I caught the Presidents speech in which he was with a group of students who are facing the rising interest rates as of July 1, if Congress doesn't do something to pass the measure to stop the rising rates.
In listening, I realized again just how important it is to vote out as many Republican as possible in the November election.
I also realized that Romney in no way can match up against the President. Comparing the two you clearly see that the President is a winner, and Romney is a clear loser.
What is really sad is the Romney supporters don't love him, but just put up with him.
"But Carney refused to specify the congressional Republicans with whom the administration is working, even as one reporter noted that House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) say the White House hasn’t reached out to them."
That about says it all. Nothing but the same old BS from Obama. Oh and Navy - what does this story have to do with the DREAM Act?? Are you that far off base???
GOP OBSTRUCTION is consistent -- since their pledge to block President Obama, on the day he was sworn in, January 2009.
Blocking jobs bills, the AJA without even a debate, the DREAM act, Violence Against Women act, Payroll Equality Act - ad nauseum.
If you can name it and the President was for it, you can bet they BLOCKED IT.
The grand old party of NO, the party of Filibuster - is what you got. They don't care about You.
As usual Bachouse the POS Sr Sen. from the Bluegrass State, has No idea what Law Making is All about. McConnel is currently into his 5th Term(26 years & counting) & to date, he Has No Law on the Books as being Voted On & Passed that he has Initiated. He's played Defense & Collected a Check from the American Taxpayer for all these Years & will continue to Collect, once, the Conservative Democratic Wing in KY wakesUp & Realizes that, Senator Mitch Mcconnel is a POS that cares Nuttin for America, & he's All about the "Turtle" !
Unfortunately, My State will havta wait until 2016 to Vote'm OUT!
Occupy SoggyBottom!
Why do the GNOP constantly have to be such damn drama queens?
GET IT DONE!
Good to see our KY truth-teller again!
I *giggle* every time I see that! ;o)
Rick,Ky
Speaker McConnell (R-KY) is still busy filibustering EVERY MEASURE.
Right now, GOP can vote Yes to millions of jobs that will put thousands of teachers, police and firefighters, construction-related workers back on the job. They can also create/save millions of jobs via the Transportation bill.
Let me guess...you're calling "BS" because of this statement by Jay Carney...
I'll throw this question out there...because I'm sure someone else is asking it...
Why, if the White House is in contact with Congressional Republicans on this matter, would they not name names?
There's a legitimate reason that I can think of. I'm just curious if anyone else can think of that reason.
Obama will pay your committed bills for you ....
Don't worry ....
Backhoser -
How about Obama playing chicken crap games in pandering to a voting block when the country is on the edge of another recession - when Americans have lost 38%+ of their wealth since this guy has been in office?
Obama is worried about interest rates increasing - what another $6-$8 a month for those with loans ... in an industry that cost has exploded 600%?
Gawd you are clueless.
AMERICA, DO NOT BE FOOLED !
The Carnival Barkers United Front(formerly known as the MSM) will try to Convince Real Americans of Every Shiny Object & Every SmellTest possible between Now & Election Day!
However, Real America needs to be Focused on 1 thing, "The Supreme Court" & its direction over the LONG Term. In 2010, Folks were discouraged because President Obama had'nt succeeded in turning around the The Economic Disaster of 8 years from the Previous Administration, in ONLY 2 Short Years. They stayed Home & Did'nt VOTE, therefore giving Republicans the Enjoyment of Redistricting in Many States after the Census was taken. Another 10 years LOST, due to the Short Term memory of the "I Want Change Now Crowd"!
In November 2012, the LONGTERM Direction of America will Rest on WHO America Elects as President! Does America wanna continue the Corparate Direction of America(started with Bush/Cheney),or does America wanna get back to a "We The People America" ?
America, do NOT be Sidetracked by the Latest Shiny Object, that Americas Carnival Barkers wanna Talk about.
This Presidential Election is about "The Supreme Court" & Who gets to Pick 1-2 or 3 Judges in the next 4 Years!
It's about NOTHING BUT THE LONGTERM HEALTH OF, "WE THE PEOPLE"!
Re-Elect President Barrack Obama !
You Betcha!
Occupy SoggyBottom
30 years of Republican corporate conniving to make the rich richer, via the Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman stategies --
Caused the dramatic loss of wealth for the low income earners, of which you speak. Top income earners walked away with a 275% increase in pay during that period. Meanwhile, the rest of us saw a drop in wages, while costs for everything from food to tuition, went UP.
We need to create a society of INCOME INEQUALITY. For starters, we need TAX FAIRNESS.
*You know this.*
Heck, just crank out another Executive Order. That will take care of the situation.
Wait a minute....how about the 41 Obama White House staffers and some of their aides, along with the HUNDREDS of "elite" Congressional Representatives and HUNDREDS of government workers be taken to Federal Court and PAY THEIR BACK IRS TAXES ? Now, that would take care of this mess.
Yeah....love the Liberals saying TAX FAIRNESS when most Obama Administration officials are CROOKS by not paying their back IRS taxes. HYPOCRITES ALL.
"We know the Obama Administration is just plain crooked." Yep.
Backhouse....Your "society" has worked so well in North Korea.
"In 1980, CEOs at the largest companies received 42 times the pay of the average worker, according to the union. In 2000 the gap hit a high, with CEOs making 525 times the average worker.
In 2010, the gap narrowed, with CEOs making 343 times the average worker."
http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/19/news/economy/ceo-pay/index.htm
Backhouse ... and Ayn Rand spat on religion ... go figure that she is one of their saints.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/wbush.html
The poor liberal lap-dogs have short memories.
They 'conveniently' forget all of the nasty, dirty tactics of the Democrat Congress when they were in charge.
Things like killing USSC appointments in committee without allowing them to come to a full vote.
Here is the truth, from that bastion of Conservatism, the UK Manchester Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/18/filibuster-democrats
Payback's a bitch!
The Democrats had been using the filibuster to prevent the confirmation of conservative appellate court candidates nominated by President George W. Bush. In the Republican-controlled 108th Congress, ten Bush judicial nominees had been filibustered by the minority Democrats. The ten Bush appellate nominees who were filibustered were Miguel Estrada, Priscilla Owen, Charles W. Pickering, Carolyn Kuhl, David W. McKeague, Henry Saad, Richard Allen Griffin, William H. Pryor, William Gerry Myers III and Janice Rogers Brown.
PAYBACK's A BITCH!
The liberal lap-dogs complained mightily about the GOP's reluctance to appoint Sotamayor, with cries of "anti-Hispanic!!"
They forget that Miguel Estrada was torpedoed by the liberals.
How pathetic!!!
This whole issue is just another nasty democrat trick. It was a democrat controlled Congress that wrote the bill that made sure this interest rate increase would happen right before the election. Look it up folks. They cut the interest rate in half when they had complete control of Cogress and specified that they go back uo at this time. They know damn well that the republicans are not going to let them raise any taxes to pay for this so it is up to the dems to negotiate. But they just cry about the nasty republicans. Dems are so full of sh*t it is going to be great to see a lot of them gone after November.
Still backwards job1.
Keep spinning and maybe you will come to a correct conclusion one of these times.
Tearing everything and everyone alter the fact that this GOP party, standing in front of you, is NOT working for you. It does not work on behalf of your future.
Right now, it is working to put the top tenth of one percent of this nation, and transnational and foreign corporations in charge of this country via secret undisclosed cash. Norquist said they just need a President to sign their bills.
Already clearly demonstrated: GOP/Koch will do it at ANY cost to ordinary Americans. This is how it is Today.
REB-1013231
so let me get this right: it's Obama's responsibility to inform the Republicans when to do their job???? They are waiting for Obama to approach them? How about they do it on their own.
All the younger voters out there, especially those with student loans or who hope to go to college -- Romney wants to give back student lending to the banks. Yep, he wants to go backward to the day when banks not only profited from interest on student loans, but also the government subsidies and loan pay-back guarantees. That's right, the banks took no risk but made all the profits.
This is what the Republican Party is all about. Privatizing profit and socializing debt. Corporate welfare, wealth concentrated at the top among the very few, and no one who can hold them accountable for any of the destructive things they do in their grab for more power and more money.
Younger voters -- get out the vote to reelect the president, and give him a congress that will work together and work with him for a better future for ALL. Obama/Biden - 2012!
Yeah - if you trace that article to it roots, looks like both Bush and Obama experienced the same problem. Of course, that was 9/2010 - wonder if Obama has made progress in the two years since. He must have, as the conservative bent article has never been updated.
bayllie
The leaders have reached out and gotten nothing back. This is what this is about.
Da Noid
Looks like you'll have to tell everybody the reason.
TruePatriot
The student loan program has really improved since Obama took it over NOT!
Younger voters better vote republican if they ever want to realize the American dream. Progressives will steal your money and hand it out to some lazy a$$ liberal.
What the heck ever happened to good democrats?
Under President Obama, this Administration took the Banks out of the middle of the student loan transaction. As a result, $Billions of dollars were saved - that have been going towards making College affordable for young Americans.
For Banks it was a freebie for years and years - while the Fed took the risks. The Fed stood as guarantor for the loans, not the Banks.
Wow, what a scam the Banks were running all those years!
GOP wants to give those billions of dollars BACK to the Banks and repeal the help for students.
Sure, and Scott Walker's going to be defeated in the recall.
We'll see you in November!
I'm guessing you be whining about 'Koch brothers' or 'vote fraud' or something that will place the blame on everyone but Obama's stupid ass...
@ Two-Faced Fleabagger #1.21,
Congratulations ! This may be the first time I've seen pure venom and hypocrisy in a single post. Yes, we know you are a libtard and have just proven it. Wishing death upon another seems to be a favorite liberal theme "Either think like US or DIE !"
Then you have the bs audacity to call Romney a flip-flopper only days after your LORD AND MASTER OBAMA flipped-flopped on his ability to wave the magic wand and create amnesty for about 800,000 illegal immigrants ! Hell, Obama is on tape from 2011 saying he couldn't do then what he just did to usurp his power and ignore existing immigration law.
Then he usurps his power just a few days later by claiming executive privilege to cover up for his "boy" Holder. Or was he covering up to protect his own political hide ??
Obama has contradicted Obama so many times that it is laughable !!!!!!!!!!!!!
REB-1013231
show me
that was in May
Student loans should have been left alone in the first place...
Another example of Obama leading from behind.
Yesterday, after a 17 months of Congressional investigation into Fast and Furious, the day the Oversight Committee is going to vote on Holding Eric Holder in Contempt of Congress Obama declares Executive Privilege. It took him 17 Months to figure out the White House was Involved with Fast and Furious?
Here it is less than two weeks before the deadline when the Interest rate reduction expires he decides he needs to step in and do something?
This is not an Interest rate increase. It is the interest rates going back up to where they should be because they were temperately lowered.
If 1 out of 2 college graduates weren't unemployed or under employed would a 3% increase even matter?
If Obama's policies had been working over the last 3.5 years and the economy was really recovering and doing well wouldn't all the college graduates be employed with good salaries and this wouldn't even be an issue?
For his next trick, two weeks before Taxmageddon, Dec 31, 2012, he will decide he needs to step in, around Dec 15th or so, and tell Congress to stop playing chicken and pass a bill to prevent taxes for everyone from going up.
Oh wait. If He's re-elected he will because he will still have to deal with the economy for four more years. If He's not elected he probably wont give a crap. Its not like he deals with anything until He's forced to and he wont be the POTUS in 2013 anyways.
Really, I have to ask... what bothers you righties so much about Obama?
Let's look at the record...
...the numbers for Bush's last three months. Between October and November, 597,000 jobs were lost; between November and December, 681,000 were lost; and between December and January, 741,000 were lost.
April 2012 marks the 26th straight month of gains in private-sector employment, for a total of 4.2 million private-sector jobs.
DJIA Dec 1, 2008 = 8149
DJIA May 19, 2012 = 12369
Dec 29, 2008 U.S. corporate earnings probably fell for a sixth-straight quarter, the longest streak in at least 20 years, as consumer spending on automobiles, homes and retailers collapsed.
May 11, 2012 Fortune magazine released its ranking of the 500 biggest US corporations Monday, which showed that they received a record-breaking $824 billion in combined profits in 2011, up 16 percent from 2010.
And yet, every righty here declares that Obama is the worst US president ever! It is pretty clear to me that George W. Bush was the worst president ever. He trashed the American economy. He involved us in two wars, one of which was fought over totally fictitious accustations that we spent 10 years fighting in areas that are smaller than some US states. Every single thing that righties accuse Obama of, Bush did in spades! But, somehow, Obama is the devil! Can anyone explain this?
Well I had no idea Obama could afford to be such a cynic and a wise ass. What a freak.
Mr Obama as a Senator couldn't be bothered to even vote for the College Cost Reduction and Access Act in 2007, which reduced studen loan rates. Why is it an issue with him now? Hmmm - could it be an election year?
Quoting the Great ex-president Ronald Reagan:
Mitt Romney "TEAR DOWN THAT WALL", of the Secrecy of what you're Hiding in your Swiss Bank accounts, your sham off-shore Cayman Island shell-companies, and what ill-gotten gains you are hiding in the Tax returns you refuse to release. And how come you pay only a 15% Tax rate? Something's fishy!
One more Quote: "SOYLENT GREEN is PEOPLE", is that Republican "code" for "CORPORATIONS are PEOPLE too".
Ron Paul supporters, Independents, and Freedom Loving Americans, VOTE a straight DEMOCRATIC ticket this November 2012, to STOP MITT ROMNEY from DESTROYING gthe MIDDLE CLASS.
To all you Libs, Name call and cuss all you want but remember a few years ago when the GOV bitched about how much money was lost because STUDENTS were not paying back anything on there loans. Hey! Get a student loan and say $#%^%$#@. What are they gonna do. Nothing and now it it a big issue.
Repubs for Obammer!
What the hell does Soylent Green have to do with student loans? What a GOOFY you are.
What a pathetic president. Instead of doing what he can to fix this economy he has worked so hard to screw up he is trying to find pockets of votes. Gays/lesbians, students with loans, women who want condoms, and so on. I have a better idea: why don't you try being a leader for at least a few days?
Obama is simply trying to pander to selective groups. The problem is we have no money. The problem is we are broke. The problem is he is spending money we don't have and have to borrow. Over $5 TRILLION in less than 4 years and we are worse off than we were when he took office.
Then Dems try to make it sound like Republicans don't care. That is ludicrous and any rational person wouldn't think that. Republicans are simply realistic. We don't have the money. Would we like everyone to go to college for free? Absolutely-but we don't have the money. Would we want everyone to get free health care? Absolutely-but we don't have the money. Would we want everyone to get a free house and car? Absolutely-but we don't have the money.
The only solution is to get the economy growing again. With economic growth comes more jobs. With more jobs comes more money. With more money people can afford houses, cars, health care, AND education. So the long-term solution is economic growth and just giving money away is only a short term solution. Like the biblical verse "give a man a fish he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime". Grow the economy and all citizens benefit.
@ ProBusiness -
To prove you point that republicans care, answer these questions for me please....
1. If republicans cared then why have that NOT passed a bill to put Americans back to work? (jobs, jobs, jobs: remember that in 2010?)
2. If republicans cared then why are they against ANY revenue driven bill that would help drive down the GDP and debt?
3. If republicans cared then why are they adamant about SAVING the tax cuts for the rich and gutting every safety net that the poor and elderly have to fall back on?
4. if republicans cared then why are they contradicting themselves? If its all about the economy, why are they holding votes to hold the AG in contempt, talk about the president using his FIRST executive privilege since he was president, trying to create another way to enter the war in Syria?
I agree with you 100%, we don't have the money to continue these programs at their present level but if you are a businessman you should know that taking MORE money out(cutting taxes further) is not a logical solution to keep business(in this case the government) afloat.
Also if we were worse off than when he took office, Asked the 4.2 million people that now have a job if they are worse off. Ask the roughly 300,000 unemployed that just got back into the job hunt BECAUSE of the prospect of getting a job is high right now how confident they are feeling now before their original job was sent overseas. Ask the veterans that sacrificed so much fighting in 2 senseless wars only to come back to home and NOT be able to get a job how they are feeling now BECAUSE of the President's veterans initiative.
Last but not least, I'm sure you should know that one man can't not do anything in out government scheme without the other and when you have one party advertises their SOLE purpose is to make him a one-term president THEN puts party above country, you have to wonder what their sole purpose is. The president has not only made his own party mad but voters too(I'm one of them) by reaching and mostly getting screwed by working with the "our way or no way" house AND senate and I for one am glad that he is finally taking some initiative to do what he can legally to try and keep this country moving towards progress.
I wish that the federal government could go even further and forgive all student loans but where is the money going to come from to pay for all of this? The federal government is already more than 15 trillion dollars in debt with huge deficits predicted for at least another decade. I estimate that any additional money borrowed by the federal government will end up costing the tax payers 9 times the amount borrowed to repay in 170 years.
I want to see the big picture. Without conditions, the President promised the American people that the 2012 federal deficit would not exceed 229.27 billion dollars yet the President's own White House is predicting that the deficit will exceed what the President promised by more than a factor of 5. How does all of this fit in with the President keeping his promise.
Will Haas
Romney's $77,000 dancing horse tax deduction could have paid for someone's college.
So Bayllie......are you dissing all Olympic sports this time around or just the ones you dont like. What about the dancing tri-athletes or the dancing hurdle runners. I know wait.....the Dancing golf teams, you know there are some 1% playing for that gold medal. Waaaaaaa! 3 bad weeks of Obama press and you guys are stretching for anything.
Instead of trying to work with Republicans, Obama just seems to be using this issue to deflect focus on Fast & Furious and the economy.
I wish we had a Clinton or Reagan as president - they were pragmatic leaders that knew how to work with people that had different ideologies from their own...
That's all this guy does is point fingers and blame everything on someone else. Accomplishes nothing, tries to circumvent the other branches of the governemnt with executive orders, now trying to cover up "Fast and Furious," what is going on? And people like Farsty keep worshiping him.
Backhouse (post 1.12)
Since 1931, the Democrats have controlled the Congress for 60 years, or 72% of the time.
Since the House is responsible for spending, perhaps we should look at the real culprit of our Nation’s ills. Reckless spending by liberal Democrats, pandering for votes over the past 60 years has brought out Country to the brink of bankruptcy, and all Obama wants to do is spend more! $5.1 Trillion additional debt in just three years, and this guy wants to spend more!
So college loans are going to increase, really? As anyone asked why college costs have grown by 600% over the past 20 years? I suppose if college costs decreased, then so would loan amounts?
I suppose Obama couldsimply grant amnesty to every college student who defaults on their student loans. I mean, if the nasty Republicans are blocking his desire to help improve the plight of all those poor students, why doesn't he just man up and take care of them all, because we all know, the only solution to a problem is Government intervention!
NOBAMA 2012!
The real idiots in this country are those that have played by the rules while Obama has been in office. Paying your mortgage on time, your loans, credit cards, stupid. It seems all anyone has to do it suggest to Obama that he is likely to get your vote if he will only come up with another government handout and presto here you go. We really dropped the ball when everyone didn't end up with a free car for bailing out General Motors. Some of us might even have been counting on free solar panels, but Solyndra just turned out to be a front for Obama to pay off some of his donors. One thing is for sure, the Democratic Party has become the Entitlement Party, and there is no end in sight as long as there are votes to be bought.
More and more students are becoming deadbeats when it comes to repaying their student loans. The percentage of student loans made to students who never complete their degree is up to 33% (it used to be 25%). It's a lot harder to get this group to pay up.
In addition the first thing many students are wanting to do after they do get a degree is to file bankruptcy to skirt their debt. They can't do that legally....yet.
We have a new generation of deadbeats coming out of college. This is our future, folks.
Backhouse
Explain how allowing students to borrow up to $200,000 for college a job that will make only $40,000 is doing a student a favor? Even with 0% interest the payment would be $20,000 per year?
What a winning proposition that is especially when over half of college graduates cannot get a job and of the others that do get a job up to half are working in unrelated jobs to pay for the loans. Meanwhile I just heard more predictions that the economy and jobs are now expected to remain flat throughout next year. Same prognostication as the last 3 years.
Do you not understand that the reason College Tuition is so high is because students can get such outrageous amounts?
Again, why are banks making these loans? The government says to!
Just like the government did to the mortgage lenders. Use these terms and don't worry about the failures, if they do occur, we will back you and buy them back!
Ronald Reagan once said that the most fearful words you can hear is "Hi, I'm from the government. I'm here to help you!"
JH-479998 -- Opinions are like arseholes--everyone has one. No one gives a sh!t about your personal opinion with no evidence, data, FACTS to back it up. Stop wasting BTU's.
EEngineer -- Agreed. Some of the explanation is righties watch FOX Propaganda exclusively. Case in point:
JH-479998 wrote: "Progressives will steal your money and hand it out to some lazy a$$ liberal." This is code for "everything the black president does is to help black people," and this LIE is why these rightwing ignoramuses are against ACA health care reforms (you'll be getting refunds from your insurance companies soon you idiots), food stamps (most recipients are white and include military families), etc.
jim-1455434 and others clearly marinate in FOX/Hate Radio juices all day every day. They really need to check out Stephen Colbert's satire on Fast and Furious -- How in 2006 then Senator Obama hypnotized Bush to get Eric Holder to get the ATF to get gun sellers to get guns to the Mexico drug cartels (Operation Wide Receiver) so that later they could use the death of an agent as an excuse to take away everyone's second amendment rights.
This is almost as bad as Birthers, with Bennett in Arizona now saying that the president was born in Hawaii but lied about being born in Kenya to get into college (the same crap being used against Elizabeth Warren) though there is no incentive, no logic etc. to do such a thing.
We might excuse jim, et al, for wearing their tinfoil hats too tight, but we can't do the same for Darrell Issa with ethics baggage of his own, or Jeff Sessions, Chuck Grassley and other congressional leaders for embracing the conspiracy theory (started by a blogger who incites violence such as bricks thrown through Dem offices including Gabby Gifford's--no shame?).
JH-479998 -- Forget Manichean 'good' or evil -- What happened to SANE Republicans? Rightwingers, turn off the FOX/Hate Radio anger machines -- The "stupid ass...","a wise ass. What a freak","laughable !!!!!!!!!!!!!","What a GOOFY you are","pathetic" -- Look in the mirror!
Government is "We the People." The only time we are our own enemy is when people no longer use Rule of Reason.
If rightwingers used Rule of Reason, it would be obvious to them that Reagan to Bush-era voodoo economics is nothing but a scam by the richest 1% to avoid accountability for ripping them off. Look at how wealth has become concentrated over the history of our nation, now more than ever it is in the hands of a small few.
Just apply yourself and look at it--It's far worse than you realize because you listen to the mouthpiece of the oligarchy instead of the FACTS. This huge inequality destroys more than your financial well being, it destroys everything including democracy and freedoms you rightwingers claim to be all about.
Jolly, it's not the horse or the sport, it's the dishonesty. Willard could have just said "yes, we own a horse trained for an Olympic event, and I attempted to write off the $77000 on my taxes as a business expense. Instead, he made up some cock and bull story about how his poor sick wife really needed the fancy horse to treat her MS. If the horse was for medical treatment, why is it a business expense?
What BS.
TruePatriot.
Thank you best line I've heard.
Republicans - Privatizing profit and socializing debt.
Two Faced Teabagger-
Please explain to the crowd what economic policy that you are speaking of that Bush enacted that has brought the country down? I'm really excited about this, you know, coming from an intellectual mind like yours...
Pedestrian-in-SF
you answered it better than I could. The funny part is that they only own 1/3rd of the horse!
the student loan debt is now bigger than the credit card debt; they can not even bankrupt from it; they are now serfs in a debtor society; their wages cannot even service the debt; forgive it, it would collapse the dollar, restructure it, how , the principal is still owed; once we destroyed the middle class, we destroyed America, both party's and the banisters are the culprits.
The abject irrationality that is pervasive among those on the right throughout these threads can be confounding, but perhaps it is better grasped when viewed in the context of bully mentality. Looking at the repetitiveness with which shallow and short-sited comments are expressed in language that evokes images of spoiled or angry young children, a case could be made that those who embrace such illogical positions are - to a degree - people who are easily influenced by others. They may be intellectually or emotionally unable to formulate conclusions on their own. With their adherence to the irrational conclusion, they are seeking the comfort of people who they believe will like and protect them. With their intransigence, they believe that they are making a quid pro quo commitment to people who are really just using them to achieve their own agendas. It may be in the nature of the more rational person to expect that everyone has the same potential for objectivity, but consider why we may be surprised to hear which children followed the bully onto the playground. This explanation doesn't account for those forlorn souls who just use vitriol to have their existence validated by getting responses to their comments. It is often the most vile or irrational comments that get the most replies, and undoubtedly there are at least a few socially deprived individuals who may neither believe nor disbelieve the position they embrace, but are reaching to have someone acknowledge them, in much the same way that some dogs will resort to peeing on the carpet to get attention - any attention.
Student loans are DEBT! DEBT! This entire program has pushed up the cost of college dramatically for everyone putting increased burden on those who are trying to "work" through college. When I was in college in the late 80s school loans were considered really stupid. Now, it's the norm. So, all of our new college grads can start their adult lives ... in debt.
This is another manufactured crisis because a few points of interest are meaningless given enormity of the principal. The real argument should be about getting kids out of this mess by forcing schools to discount tuition for student NOT using loans or to have work programs as part of their college program to help them pay for their tuition. There are a host of solutions but once again we allow special interests to rule while Americans fight over scraps.
They are worried about the interest rates going up. I am worried about the cost of a college education...tuition fees.
For Da Noid,
AMy guess is that the republicans that are working with Obama have asked for anonymity in fear of the Republican leadership. We all know that those leaders have made their number one priority "to deny President Obama a second term."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/10/mcconnell-stopping-obamas-re-election-still-single-most-important-goal/
http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cohn/96591/mcconnell-villain-who-me
Lets see...they played chicken with the debt ceiling, the Bush Tax Shift, the Payroll Tax Holiday...why should student loan rates be any different?
Another group thrown under the GOP/TP bus - students, women, gays, Latinos, below-poverty, seniors. Since they are on a roll, could it be that the NRA crowd is next?
This is simply too funny ..... the high-drama TURKEY who resides in the White House is saying that Congress is playing "chicken". The reality is that the high-drama TURKEY is simply playing "politics" ..... his usual style of pitting one group of people versus another, trying desperately to look like the good guy .... while he is still so totally clueless about restoring our economy.
Everything with Obama is about trying to "look good" and get re-elected. Nothing deals with high unemployment, no budget plan and $16 trillion in debt that threatens the very future of these students he is pandering to !
jim-1455434
jim, the Senate Republicans have not done anything since since May - since they blocked the bill. The tax rates are expiring so how is Obama playing politics because the deadline is what it is - a deadline????
Why don't you tell the Senate Republicans to get off their a$$es and stop holding the students' futures hostage.
Reddev, he will throw anyone under the bus to get and keep power. This is all about getting re elected, so he can really start enacting his ideological agenda. If he don't get his way, he'll just try to bully, sign Executive Orders, etc. Why can't you people see it? Are you that blind?
@bay lie #2.3, You are truly becoming quite adept with the distortions. The truth is that the bill previously passed by the Democrats (see post #1.11 above for more detail) was intended to be a temporary reduction. Now, the same Democrats who put that "temporary relief" bill into place with a planned expiration date before the elections are playing to the feelings of entitlement they have created. There is no real rate"increase" merely a return to what existed before.
If Obama wanted to truly help students, he should have kept that vague promise about "laser-like" focus on jobs. Today's grads are finding it tough to even GET A JOB in the economy that Obama has phucked-up so badly.
hey jim,
the dispute is because they disagree over how to pay the $6 billion tab necessary to do so. Senate Democrats want to eliminate certain tax benefits for business owners, while Senate Republicans want to cut a preventive-care fund. get it right.
oh kinda like the Republicans call the expiration of Bush taxes an INCREASE??? Isn't it going back to what existed before????
Da Noid, to answer your question goes to the heart of the differences conservatives and liberals. Nearly every program that a liberals sees as "wonderful" the conservative sees the cost, the special interests that benefit and the cronyism that is so pervasive in government today. It's sad that liberal politicians (not American liberals) are so unbelievably corrupt. Although I am conservative I am a huge supporter of green energy. Solyndra's bankruptcy wasn't about a green company failing. It was about an investor who bundled campaign "donations" for Obama and once elected came to the president and got a $500m loan to back-stop his investment. Solyndra was run by idiots into the ground and when it failed Americans were in the 2nd lien position ... and got nothing. There are hundreds of stories like this for Obama and those are the ones we know.
Republicans blow too but now Independents like myself see every liberal agenda items for what it is; a payoff to a special interest group.
If McConnell and company fail to make Obama a one-term president, what will they do in the next four years? I understand their desire to paint the President as a failure by obstructing everything he does, but it comes at a political price for them as well. Do you think there's enough to gain politically for Republicans to obstruct for eight years?
Ursula - Most of the Bagger's will more than likely be gone by 2014..
I'm looking forward to that. Especially that dead beat dad Joe Walsh.
Anymore time under Obama and America will be gone by 2014 also .... "LOL"
moving more of our capital overseas to survive becoming Greece.
i'm not worried, i'm rich... but you should be sponges
bigbenalaska ... I understand what lol means in many a post but I am at a loss when it comes to yours. Is it just some punctuation thing? Dude, you are not funny so just try being serious.
JasonInNYC
libs don't have capital so that would be your capital ... but then yours is offshore right? Poverty is relative when you are actually the LoneliestInNYC ...
No one is "painting" Obama as a failure -- he did that all by himself. He's dividing this country and destroying America with his horrendous games, pandering to whatever voter block is on his radar, throwing money (that we don't have) at whatever he can. It's always been about his re-election why do you think he's going to those elite/Hollywood/Corp/Union fundraisers.
Boy you can't see the forest through the trees. Oh as far as people leaving the GOP -- get a grip -- I see the dems are jumping ship on your boy like rats, which is what they are anyhow. But keep spinning but beware the last "pea" in your head might fall out.
Well I see Ruken got suspended for a month for all of his highly intellectual comments. I guess now he will actually have to work.
Well, as a matter fact, yes we can see the forest, and it is funny as hell watching you ricochet from tree to tree trying to find 'Wooden' Willard.
@ksw62118, Seriously ? Ruken got suspended ?? He/she has been quite the flamethrower lately.
Still it seems like others have "diplomatic immunity" and never get curtailed ..... they get into name-calling like "idiot", "moron" etc, etc ad nauseam or play the race card with inflammatory remarks ..... and somehow seem to have a "pass". They also like to imply you are mentally deficient, insane or uneducated if you do not agree with them.
Hey don't forget Snuffy - she's shows up today fresh out of rehab & promptly earned herself a time out! lmao!
Poor old broad - I tried to tell her she was slipping... but NOOOO she wouldn't listen!
Of course you are able to provide a source for your claim...
Sorry if we won't just take your word for it! *wink wink*
Obama's tax returns are online, you could always look it up yourself.
Her thick little fingers give her fits when looking stuff up! It would rather be abusive and obtrusive!
Ursula - What liberals call "obstruction" conservatives call "preventative". When Clinton was in office he tried laying this socialist crap on Americans and was shut down. He moved to center-left and now is revered as "one of the greats". Obama on the other hand made it clear since he pushed the stimulus through that his agenda was going to be a mix of crony payoffs and socialist cowpie; and he is being rejected. If he is reelected he will be rejected for 4 more years and then he will have his very own Great Depression if moderates are unable to fix our problems. Romney is a moderate and our country needs someone that can work with congress to fix this country.
look at those stupid kids... sober up... the real world Obama has created is almost upon you.
They are not really slated to double (well, technically I guess), as much as return to what they were before the "break" was put in. The issue arises in that no one can agree on how to pay for the "break" since the government essentially is footing the bill for the other half of the interest.
Soooo .... the tax breaks for the top 1% that was not paid for is ok to continue - which the GOP fought very hard to extend - but to extend a break for the middle class who could not afford to pay for college up front is completely and totally unacceptable????
Exactly Pamela!!!
spin that extension anyway you want, the Bush tax cuts expired at the end of December, 2010 so now they are the Obama tax cuts.
and we've been stuck watching a socialist experiment go very, very badly
The construction jobs bill will benefit mostly illegal immigrants since Obama won't allow them to use E-Verify to prove citizenship
The student loan bill........THIS is why people hate the Rep party
Our fat public servants were able to loan BILLIONS of dollars to private car companies and banks, but they can't help American college students?
They are truly insane. Vote everyone out!
You want anything Prez, you have to cut off Holder and install the AG of GOP choice...then you have to resign immediately and Biden too, so Boehner becomes president immediately. Thank you and have a nice day, probably signed by NRA/Tea Party/White Supremacists...maybe Wall Street and Business Leaders too. No more non-white democrat Prez's for at least another 100 years too. Yes I heard that coming from the direction of the far right, haha.
So whats new,,,,the GOP up to their old(very old and always nasty) tricks again! WAKE UP AMERICA,,,,the GOP, minons of the evil robber barons, don't give a flying f*&k about the average person, haven't in decades,,,the big corps run this country and not all of them are american corps either! We need to stand up and vote, every one of us, and vote out the majority in the house and give the democrats a fillabuster proof senate,,,it's the only way!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Straight democratic ticket!
We've been watching Obama play kick the can with our economy, and he prints money like there's no tomorrow.
Here's the pig Obama, in his own prattling words:
“The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”.
-Barak Hussein Obama
“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”
-Barak Hussein Obama
Failed POTUS
Steve..... How is that party of JOBS JOBS JOBS is working for you??! Oh, they just tolled US people to go f..themselves..
Boehner didn't pass one bill seance 2010, that would help to create one job.
We have Holder, Vagina, Abortion.... you name it. WHERE R THE JOBS MFS??
Yeah you want to Bitch about the 3 1/2 years of President Obama while Bush and his Insane Clown Party ran rampant using the American Taxpayers as their personal ATM machine! And what's unpatriotic is the no compete contracts Halliburton (DICK) has raked in millions and millions rebuilding Iraq's infastructure. You want to talk a failed president look at Bush first and foremost!
Obama/Biden 2012
Steven B
It is truely amazing how Obama's own words condemn him as a failed leader. Here is just another example of this and what he has actually done. Of course the die hard Obama supporters will gag on it, but that's life.
In February 2009, Democratic President Barack Obama stated:
I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay. And that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.
"Remarks at the Fiscal Responsibility Summit." By Barack Obama. Government Printing Office, February 23, 2009. http://www.gpoaccess.gov/presdocs/2009/DCPD200900102.htm
Below are the results of his actions over the past 3.5 years. Look at what the debt has climbed to for our Nation, our households, for us as individuals, and lastly for our children and their children and their
children.
Web page: "The Debt to the Penny and Who Holds It." United States Department of the Treasury, Bureau of the Public Debt. Accessed May 3, 2012 at http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np
As of 5/1/2012, the "Total Public Debt Outstanding" is $15,673,229,738,380.
Dataset: "Monthly Population Estimates for the United States: April 1, 2010 to March 1, 2012." U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division, April 2012. ttp://www.census.gov/popest/data/national/totals/2011/index.html
"Resident Population … March 1, 2012 [=] 313,104,674"
CALCULATION: $15,673,229,738,380 debt / 313,104,674 people = $50,057 debt/person
Dataset: "Average Number of People per Household, by Race and Hispanic Origin, Marital Status, Age, and Education of Householder: 2011." U.S. Census Bureau, November 2011. http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/...
Total households = 118,682,000
CALCULATION: $15,673,229,738,380 debt / 118,682,000 households = $132,061 debt/household
Nice copy and paste action you have going on! I can do that too see below and happy reading!
Barack Obama's Fiscal Responsibility
Within days after taking office, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse.
Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to save the federal government money.
On his first full day, he froze White House salaries.
He appointed the first Federal Chief Information Officer to oversee federal IT spending.
He committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems, and also signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop waste, fraud and abuse in the defense procurement and contracting system.
Through an executive order, he created the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.
Improving the Economy, Preventing Depression
He pushed through and signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as “the stimulus package,” despite the fact that not one Republican voted for that bill. In addition, he launched recovery.gov, so that taxpayers could track spending from the Act.
In his first year, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5%.
He completed the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan, and recovered virtually all of its costs.
He created the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan.
He oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years.
He oversaw a bailout of General Motors that saved at least 1.4 million jobs, and put pressure on the company to change its practices, resulting in GM returning to its place as the top car company in the world.
He also doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership which is designed to improve manufacturing efficiency.
He signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the financial system. It also created a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown.
He signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, which was designed to to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive credit card practices.
He increased infrastructure spending after years of neglect.
He signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures. The bill also provided $2.2 billion to help combat homelessness, and to stabilize the housing market.
Through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first-time home buyers, which helped the U.S. housing market recovery.
He initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses.
He created business.gov, which allows for online collaboration between small businesses and experts re managing a business. (The program has since merged with SBA.gov.)
He played a lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis.
He took steps to improve minority access to capital.
He created a $60 billion bank to fund infrastructure improvements such as roads and bridges.
He implemented an auto industry rescue plan, and saved as many as 1 million jobs. Many are of the opinion that he saved the entire auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest.
Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have otherwise been lost.
He dismantled the Minerals Management Service, thereby moveing forward to cut ties between energy companies and the government.
Provided funding to states and the Department of Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being cut during the recession.
He used recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan.
Crafted an Executive order establishing the President’s Advisory Council on Financial Capability to assist in financial education for all Americans.
Wall Street Reforms and Consumer Protection
Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money.
He pushed through and got passed Dodd-Frank, one of the largest and most comprehensive Wall Street reforms since the Great Depression.
Dodd-Frank also included the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
He made it so that banks could no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers' interests.
He supported the concept of allowing stockholders to vote on executive compensation.
He wholly endorsed and supported the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009 that would close offshore tax avoidance loopholes.
He made a deal with Swiss banks that permits the US government to gain access to the records of criminals and tax evaders.
He established a Consumer Protection Financial Bureau designed to protect consumers from financial sector excesses.
He oversaw and then signed the most sweeping food safety legislation since the Great Depression.
Better Approach to “Defense”
Created a comprehensive new strategy for dealing with the international nuclear threat.
He authorized a $1.4 billion reduction in Star Wars program in 2010.
He restarted nuclear nonproliferation talks and built up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols to where they had been before Bush.
He signed and pushed to ratification a new SALT Treaty.
Negotiated and signed a new START Treaty that will lst until at least 2021.
Through the Defense Authorization Act, he reversed the Bush Administration and committed to no permanent military bases in Iraq.
He developed the first comprehensive strategy with regard to Afghanistan and Pakistan designed to facilitate the defeat of al Qaeda and the withdrawal of most troops, as well as the rebuilding of Afghanistan.
He returned our focus to Afghanistan, stabilized the country, and began the process of withdrawing our troops from the country.
Fulfilled campaign promise and ended our involvement in Iraq, and will complete full troop withdrawal before Christmas 2011.
He took steps to severely weaken al Qaeda and limited their ability to terrorize the world.
He negotiated and signed a nuclear nonproliferation treaty with India.
He took decisive action to use NATO to limit the slaughter of innocents in Libya, so that the Libyan people could topple a despotic government and determine their own fate.
One of the many jokes and LIES for this administration. Is that going to be the speech for a 2nd term? Now $16 Trillion Dollars. Same speech for another 4 years. All Obama could do is change the date on everything he didn't do the first go around! Another 4 year vacation, but no campaigning. Oh, I forgot he is a DICTATOR of the old United States of Republic Corporation.
DefMode66
All that crap you listed looks really nice if you completely ignore what else the president has done. What is the matter with copy and paste? It is a great way of showing what the source that influences your thinking has to say about the subject.
At least and I do mean at least 3.8 trillion of the 4.7 trillion that has been added to the national debt can be directly attributed to Obama's policies. And that is just in 3 years. It took Bush eight years to add 4.9 billion.
Apparently liberals cannot grasp the idea that there are politicians that do what they were elected to do. That is why you hate the Tea Party so much.
There are ways to pay for these programs without going into debt. Maybe if the democrats would consider cutting spending first then the republicans (and definitely their supporters) would be a lot more receptive to increasing taxes.
I didn't budget for this. Should have. I wonder how much this will increase my student loan payment next month.
Its funny how people have changed since America became more Progressive. I borrowed money for 7 years of post-high school education at 9%. Paid it all back on time, with interest. Interest rates are much lower and even if they double will still be lower, yet the youth of today whine and complain. I also notice that despite 8.2% unemployment that many companies seeking to hire still cannot find qualified Americans to fill these jobs. Leads me to believe that a College education here is simply a 4 year vacatioon for the lazy so they can attain their degree in feminist studies, art, sociology or some other useless degree qualifying them to be a dishwasher. Lets try not subsidizing loans at all. Plenty of menial labor jobs for the young and given their intellect I think a 6 week training course on how to clean a bathroom would be more than adequate for their abilities.
Obama lives in a glass house.......
"While Democrats want to cut subsidies for oil-and-gas companies, Republicans have suggested...adjusting state Medicaid payments."
It is an interesting debate. Do we cut welfare for the rich or welfare for the poor? Decisions, decisions.
Okay...
Then let us also return to the tax rates we had before Reagan. Only fair.
If the Norquist pledge is no new taxes, it should be for everyone, but in reality what he truly says is "No new taxes for the Koch brothers, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Willard Romney, or any wealthy 1%ers, but if we have to raise new taxes on the poor and middle working class, that is okay..."
Hypocritical liars!
Un-truthful RWNJ tea/gop ...
Oil and gas companies do not get subsidies - despite Obama's constant lies. They get tax credits to encourage them to drill - which is very costly and risky - just like eveery corporation does for risky research and development. We need to encourage these efforts! Tax credits are not subsidies - it just means they take less, not that they give subsidy. Now the green corporations doo in fact get subsidies as Obama throws billions of tax payer dollars in the black hole of their almost certain failure.
Not
Has your taxes gone up because of the Norquist Pledge?? The Pledge is to the American People not to Grover Norquist. The Pledge does cover ALL income brackets even yours.
The three largest oil and gas companies made 80 billion in profit last year. Profit. Forgive me if I think it is reasonable for them to pay for their own R&D.
If that were true, then why were the pledgers prepared to allow the wages of the working class to be taxed more by allowing the Medicaid with holding reduction to expire? Why are the pledgers willing to allow student loan interest to double?
LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!
You spew the RNC/tea spin and garbage, but Norquist & his pledgers are willing to allow the lower and middle class, the elderly, and students to pay more in taxes JUST SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
Facts my friend...
truth instead of the RNC/FOX lies, spin and B.S.
Lets do the math regarding the potential increase in student loans (Note: I am an Independent voter who recently earned an undergraduate at the age of 30.)
1. The increase in student loans (undergraduates only) after July 1st (only affects Subsidized Stafford Loans)
2. The Subsidized loan disbursements generally equates to roughly 1/3 of an undergraduate's federal student loan debt each year.
3. A return of the 6.8% fixed rate for subsidized loans is slightly less than the average rate students have had to pay back over the last 25+ years.
In conclusion. While it would be nice to have lower student interest rates, the petty partisan bickering between Obama and Congress is at best... petty.
This bill does NOT affect: Unsubsidized loans (undergraduate/graduate), Parent Plus, or Subsidized loans (graduates only.) This only affects subsidized undergraduate loans that make up for 30% of total student loans.
When we get a do-something congress and a do-something administration, the interest rates will find their way back through the legislative process to once again bring down interest rates.
The House has been in continuous session for almost a week now. Isn't it time for Speaker Boehner to declare another recess? LOL
Republican big game: women, students, seniors, unions, minority voting rights, the economy and, for the entire season, doing everything possible to kill jobs. The National Republican Attacks (NRA) are out to kill.
You forgot the poor. Or maybe Obama spending so much time with his elitist millionaore and billionaire buddies - 160 fundraisers since April which is more than the passt five presidents combined - while his war on coal and fossil fuels has driven up electric prices 30% and gas prices over 80% has convinced even youu that he holds the poor in complete disdain! Manwhile helies and says inflation is at 3%?
Dumb A@s replie.
Watermon, who is the source of your numbers, your two year old?
You dems are funny. Even if the interest rates were 0% for the student loans, if the students don't have jobs, they can't pay the loans back. So while your man is focusing on creating more debt for his government and his supporters, he has failed to make it possible for our government or those individuals to pay back the debts he is amassing and encouraging others to amass.
How stupid can you people be? Or better said, you people sell yourselves for pennies on the dollar like some crack hooker needing money for a score.
How can you pay debt, if your people cut everything to everyone? Teachers, police, firefighter, social services that keep the middle class strong. It looks like they want to pull students in to a bigger debt, while the rich continue to stay on " welfare".
Republicans made us to look at the rich as only our "saviors", while destroying the middles class as no needed material, the problem is that the rich are sucking in been our saviors.
No I think Congress has kept this President down which is evident! Every student which is qualified and accepted to attend an Institution to get a higher education has that right. It is our government's responsibility to ensure interest rates on student loans are kept in check! You repubs are not funny at all your sad and pretty pathetic!
Alina77
Government jobs didn't keep the middle class strong, manufacturing did.
We don't have enough manufacturing in this country to sustain the middle class. Obama can't build an economy by amassing huge debts or with government hiring where the money to pay these government employees is coming from China and other foreign nations in the form of loans...
Try thinking about what you are going to post before you post it.
Republicans want to keep the interet rate just as low as the Democrasts do - despite what that lying POS says. It is just that Republicans want to pay for it with cuts in waste but Obama will not allow even a pennyy of duplication, waste and fraud to be cut from his bloated corrupt federal bureaucracy!
And the Repugnicans won't allow one more penny of tax increase to the billionaires, everything has to be cuts and more cuts, especially to education, health, and any program that their delusional minds see as "socialist" while increasing the budget to the corrupt and wasteful Pentagon.
DefMode66 - why have Republicans (and some democrats) decided to keep the president down during one of the worst economies since the great depression? Please answer!
Poor Boehner , he cant go to the bathroom without asking the permeation from a nut-job in Jorge Washington costume...
2010 pulled our progress way back ........ with our blessing.
Jorge Washington - was he an illegal alien?
What progress did we see before 2010? Passed one bill that will be declared unconstitutional and wasted a trillion dollars (including interest) on a stimulus that was geared only to unions and accomplished nothing.
PTI
@bob-1805084
If that's true no doubt it went to the 1%.
I see Mr Obama found another socio economic group to pander to.
I just hope my dog is ahead of the neighbor's cat on his list of panderdates.
So who is Mitt pandering to? Would it be Wall Street and Corporations at his Utah retreat?
College students? Useless wastes taught by tenure for life, six figure salaried, BMW driving stealth commies. Can any of them replace a transmission, hang a chandelier, repair a clothes dryer, set a brick? They'll all be flipping burgers and driving taxis after graduation in Odumbo's economic malaise and with a suffocating debt load to boot. Can any of them spell malaise? Can they write a coherent sentence? Punctuate? Do fractions and decimals? We're doomed.
College is a waste of time? What good is replacing a transmission if you can't design one in the first place.
Studying engineering is not a waste I'll give you that. Gender and black studies, sociology, liberal arts, art history and on and on are a waste. They should be able to spell malaise before entering engineering school though.
Yes.
And wire it properly.
Yes, chances are the problem is electrical.
Doesn't exactly take a genius.
Graduated from undergrad last December. Started graduate school in August. The jobs I have had in between: Designing kitchens, Staff electrician at Penn. Shakes, Lighting designer for a theatre in Memphis, assistant-ship as a carpenter in grad school, and currently Master Electrician at a summer theatre in Colorado. Oh, and I'll graduate with about 16,000 in student loans, since I have a full ride to grad school. Not too suffocating.
Yes, however, I would not use it in the manner that you did, mostly considering that Obama did not cause the recession.
Yes. To both.
Yes.
Why? Because you now have a larger population of educated people who tend to vote democrat?
Why do you think that? Simply because you don't know much about them I figure. I have a BA in the arts, and I will soon have a MFA. I assure you, I'm highly employable.
How is close to 50% of the population NOT paying taxes, TAX FAIRNESS! OF Course, you all want to vote BO back into office. HE GIVES without having a plan to pay for it! What a great life.. until it ALL comes crashing down:o( then we will see how great you think this all is!
I am Happy, those 50% don't earn enough to pay taxes. If they were getting a living wage they would pay taxes. Let me say it again so it sinks in THEY DON"T MAKE ENOUGH TO PAY TAXES!!!!
So you think making them pay income taxes will solve our problem? NOT, because if you make them pay taxes they will have less and since they barely get by as it is they will then go on welfare. So which is better that they don't pay income tax (so the government has less) or you make them pay income taxes and then the government spends that money on welfare?
Tax fairness means that the rich pay their fare share rather than paying 14% on unearned income (capital gains). A person that actually works for their money pays close to 30%.
OBAMA is a doushe bag..i beleive nothing that comes out of that idiots mouth...hes a lying piece of s hit
Personally put him under a lie detector have you?
So if Obama is a DOUCHE bag, then what does that make Rick Perry whom I am pretty confident you voted for in Texas?
President Accuses, President Accuses, President Accuses, President threatens, President threatens, President threatens. The only positive notes Half&Half has, concern either immorals or illegals. Guess it's only fair since there's a good chance he's both!
We'll hear from the politically centric independents come November.
Usually a quiet bunch whose screams you won't see in the vitriolic rants found in some of the posts here.
We don't appreciate what Mr Obama is doing to this country.
His bad June is just a shadow of what's to come in November.
Maybe if Obama would stay in Washington and lead instead of just taking pot shots at the other side from afar, something could get done. 160 fundrasiers since April - more than the past five presidents combined. Over 100 round of golf - also a presidential record and he still has 6 months to play. There is more to leadership than just sitting on the sidelines and taking pot shots at the opposition party! He is pathetic as president! He doesn't even try to work to get things done. Lazy or just incompetent - doesn't matter. As Senor said in "Man from La Mancia" - whether the rock hits the urn or the urn hits the rock - too bad for the urn.
You lie.
Maybe if the GOP would have actually governed instead of fighting for political power we might have been a little further in this recovery. The same recovery that the GOP said didn't happen.
Well said watermoon.
Watermoon,
Really??? I mean really? In your opinion the president hasn't done ANYTHING to lead or work with the other side? So it's your analysis that all the president did for 3 years was play golf? Well let's see if we can educate you and STClaire some:
1. Wall Street reform - YES we know that they were some of his big donors for President in 08' and some of them are still now BUT he had the balls to hold them accountable for their actions compared to Bush who just threw money at them with no strings thus the "golden parachutes" and "lavish" company trips to places like HAWAII. emerged. President Obama held them accountable which stopped the parachutes and trips UNTIL they paid back the money owed to the taxpayers.
2. Bush tax cuts extension - YES, BAD MOVE on the President's part but he worked hard with republicans(remember they demanded that they be paid for initially) to try and get them approved for MIDDLE CLASS only. Even had a plan for which they were paid for, HOWEVER Mr. Norquist saw this as a tax increase for the wealthy and REMINDED the Republicans of their pledge they signed(NOT to raise taxes on the rich). He eventually gave in to republicans(who said we could borrow the money to pay for them VICE finding a way to pay for them) in order to keep taxes from going up during the slow recovery of the economy.
3. Debt ceiling debacle - AGAIN worked with the republicans to come up with a plan to not only raise the debt ceiling BUT also pay for it and in the future by doing away with subsidies in oil and gas AS WELL AS closing tax loopholes and raising certain tax rates. AND AGAIN the republicans tried to tack on the Keystone pipeline as well as constitutional amendment for having a balanced budget for they thought the president would AGAIN cave and allow their demands. THEN as he reached a deal with Boehnor, He couldn't sell it to the Teaparty republicans and thus LIED saying there was no deal reached to save face. So AGAIN feeling the pressure the republicans said AGAIN we will extend the debt ceiling ONLY and will pay for it later.
4. Health Care Act - Say what you want about it but this bill not only benefited my but millions of others in the process. While some of the "questionable" parts of the bill have still to be enacted, the main parts of the bill are helping millions KEEP their insurance as well as helped those who couldn't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions. Also because of this bill my daughter was able to stay on my insurance until she graduates college or turns 26. Don't get me wrong, this bill still needs some work but REMEMBER this was a REPUBLICAN IDEA some 20+ years ago. They just never had the guts to try and get it approved through their OWN party.
5. Executive order for veterans health care and jobs. Something the republicans "claimed" they care a lot about but sat on their hands for 2 YEARS and couldn't get it passed through their own party. As a veteran, I will admit I am non-partisan on this one and in my opinion, this one speaks for itself.
6. Jobs creation. I have made this argument before and no one can dispute it. Through HIS OWN painstaking ordeal,(without his own party's help at times) we have created more jobs in three years than Bush did in 8. Some may say ok but why is unemployment still above 8%? I say 8 is a hell of a lot better than 10.2% when he took office.(yes look it up) If not for the stimulus(which a lot of people say failed) it would have been higher. Also them 300,000+ that came back into the job market, Ask them why they did all of a sudden. Because the prospect of getting a job is the highest it been in a while. While we are on the subject, What about all those "republican" governors that WERE TOUTING the number of jobs their state has created being told to "tone down" or stop talking about the positive job growth because it's making the President look good and Romney look bad. I thought that's what the republicans initial pledge was (JOBS, JOBS, JOBS) remember? Now they are doing all they can to not mention it for the sake of politics.
I could go on and on but HOPEFULLY you get the picture and BEFORE you go spewing that I am nothing but a left craze liberal, I will tell you that I am an independent that DOES agree with mlkboneundrwear in that the president is NOT my favorite person BUT I have enough sense after listening to Romney to know that he doesn't know what he's doing or how to run a campaign. I also find it VERY HARD to vote for someone that only talks to a "select" few. Doesn't take questions from the media, dodges every question when he does and in my opinion really doesn't understand politics IF he thinks that ONLY talking about the economy will get him elected.
I welcome any disputes or well informed rebuttals.
Even if they "double" and go up a few dollars, it's not really going to matter when no one can pay them back because they can't get a job (or are underemployed) in this market anyway.