Obama camp: We're going to be outspent

 

Top Obama campaign officials today said they would be outspent by Mitt Romney and allies, especially when you include all the various outside groups.

Jason Reed / Reuters

President Barack Obama speaks at a news conference at the conclusion of the G20 Summit in Los Cabos June 19, 2012.

"We are going to be the first incumbent [president] outspent," said one of these officials at a pen-and-pad session with reporters in DC.

The ad-spending numbers for the general election show the two sides to be even right now. According to data from NBC/SMG Delta, the Obama campaign has spent nearly $61 million on advertising, versus $14 million for the Romney camp.

But when you factor in all the outside groups -- including the Super PACs (which have to disclose their donors) and 501c4s (which don't) -- Romney and his allies reach parity with Obama and his allies, $73 million to $73 million.

The same Obama campaign official predicted that Romney, the Republican National Committee, and the Romney Victory Fund would raise $100 million in June -- more than Team Obama would. In May, Team Romney outraised Team Obama, $77 million to $60 million.

When a reporter mentioned that the Obama campaign had a clear financial advantage over John McCain in 2008, another top official shot back that all of that money was transparent and disclosed, and much of it came from small donors. But this time, the official added, there are a slew of GOP-leaning 501c4 groups -- like the Karl Rove-backed Crossroads GPS and the Koch Brothers' Americans for Prosperity -- that don't have to disclose their donors and are being funded by seven-figure and even eight-figure checks.

The purpose of this pen-and-pad meeting was for the Obama campaign to discuss the state of the race, and these officials maintained that the Obama-Romney contest was close as expected. "We've got the race we anticipated," said one official.

And what's especially striking, these officials continued, is how stable the contest has been, despite all the polls and the various ups and downs. "The reality is there hasn't been a great deal of change in the last few months," the same official added.

That said, the campaign discussed all of its different paths to 270 electoral votes, its strength with minority voters (predicting they would represent 28% of all voters, up from 26% in 2008), its appeal with female voters, and its organizational advantage over Romney.

The campaign also said it wouldn't be backing away from its attacks on Romney's business background at Bain Capital, contending that they're working and they highlight Romney's economic values.

Meanwhile, it said, the advertising attacks on Romney's record as Massachusetts governor are intended to point to his competence -- or lack thereof. "Most Americans don't know he was the governor of Massachusetts because he's trying to put that behind him," argued one official.

The campaign officials emphasized another point to the assembled reporters: Romney has yet to receive scrutiny for his policies and plans, and they hope that scrutiny comes.

In fact, they pointed to five issues -- the Simpson-Bowles deficit-reduction plan, how to pay for Romney's $5 trillion tax cut, immigration, foreign policy, and the Romney jobs plan -- where the former Massachusetts governor has been vague or unspecific.

If Romney wants to be president, one of the officials said, "he ought to answer single, direct questions about his positions... If there is one consistent quality he has shown, it is evasiveness. They don't want to be scrutinized."

And another official charged that Romney "is the most secretive presidential candidate in our lifetime," noting that he hasn't released the names of his campaign bundlers, his income tax returns (beyond one for 2010 and an estimate for 2011), or many of his records as Massachusetts governor.

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Outspent may in fact be the "new reality" for the POTUS'S campaign....I am almost sure that President Obama will exert "Executive Privilege on how much he has currently collected compared to what he collected in 2008 just 140 days before that election! I suspect the number is much lower this year and I agree that Obama will be outspent......and for a reason!

  • 72 votes
#1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:03 PM EDT

Corporations are people too.

  • 41 votes
#1.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:04 PM EDT

If Romney wants to be president, one of the officials said, "he ought to answer single, direct questions about his positions... If there is one consistent quality he has shown, it is evasiveness. They don't want to be scrutinized."

In my opinion, it is the ONLY consistent quality he has shown.

  • 67 votes
#1.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:07 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Never fear - our man nomoresameo will save the day.

$50, BAM, coming you way O.

Right Nomoresameo?

Oh and for kicks and giggles I was looking at the seminal executive privilege case US v Nixon (1974).

Seems to apply to communications directly with the president, and is otherwise limited in scope.

Holy Moly gang, looks like O gave the green light on this super awesome idea to arm the drug cartels.

Fantastic, right?

  • 38 votes
#1.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

I thought all of Hollywood was on the President's side. I figured Hollywood could allow the President to easily outspend Romney. Romney doesn't need a lot of cash, just a good message and clock management.

  • 39 votes
#1.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:11 PM EDT
Comment author avatarSpanky-Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Yeah - how about this for a direct question : SO O, where are your transcripts?

How odd that he will not answer. Almost like he doesn't want the records to be scrutinized.

  • 41 votes
#1.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

Got to love the Citizens United bull@!$%# ruling. Now, as the article alluded to, wealthy persons can practically buy off elections. That Anderson dude and the Koch brothers have put in hundreds of millions and that is just 3 people. More evidence that our entire system is rigged against the small guy. Elections should be publicly financed.

  • 46 votes
#1.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:19 PM EDT

How odd that he will not answer.

Really Spanks? When did you ask him?

  • 24 votes
#1.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

Every lib whines about the Kock brothers...but they seem to turn a blind eye to George Soros, Warren Buffett, all the Hollywood freaks (ie. Bill Maher, Sean Penn, Danny Glover, etc.)....wasn't it just last year when all the Dems were bragging about Obama being the first pres to raise a billion $$$s for his re-election? And now we see that's probably NOT going to happen and all of a sudden the money is bad!!!! Once again, liberal hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 59 votes
#1.8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

GOPisextinct - Spanky is trying to deflect from the fact that Romney will not release his taxes. Obama headed Harvard Law Review and Spanky is jealous because that is something he is nowhere qualified to do! It totally upsets him!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 43 votes
#1.9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

@!$%# all the big money jwilson1234. It is all a scam.

  • 12 votes
#1.10 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

Who is paying for all the pro 0bama ad spots on MSNBC? Oh yea, its the MSNBC super PAC for reelecting 0bama.

  • 41 votes
#1.11 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

A couple points:

  • The President is being outspent because his policies are detrimental to the United States;
  • Governor Romney was very successful as Governor of Massachusetts given that he had to deal with a liberal legislature and big unions; and,
  • President Obama voted "present" on many issues while serving as a Illinois State Senator and later as a U.S. Senator. (Now that's vague and/or unspecific).
  • 50 votes
#1.12 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

Spanks,

The expertise and acumen you put on daily stunning display here must be the reason your clientele rushes to engage your "services" out there in San Diego.

I'll bet your customers cast their eyes heavenward and bless the day that Mummy Spanky met Daddy Spanky. All those clever witticisms you spout must be well received in courtrooms around the left coast.

I'll bet your professional standing is a model to aspire to. I mean, look at the activity you are billing to your clients right now. What a Legal Eagle you are Buddy-Boy. A pillar of the Barrister Community in ol' Cali!!

I quote from Young Frankenstein: "You got it Mister."

  • 19 votes
#1.13 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

No problem, Mr President we Obamabots got your back. When you consider millions of us donate to you in comparison to several gazillionaires you're in the winning column.

Money doesn't vote; people do!!!

4ward for 44

Obama/Biden 2012

Fired up and ready to go!!!

  • 38 votes
#1.14 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

It looks as if Pres. Obama is laying crepe for the November elections. He can't blame it on Bush yet, he's blaming it on his coffers, guess he lost a lot of support,

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#1.15 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

"We are going to be the first incumbent [president] outspent," said one of these officials at a pen-and-pad session with reporters in DC.

Pretty sad when you consider Obama has devoted more time to raising money at this stage than the last 5 presidents combined.

Some may think that fact might help explain why his performance / economy sucks so bad ,....but in all honesty Obama has never had a clue ... never understood the economy.

Oh well, just another first worst distincion among the many.

Chris: Corporations are people too.

Yea ... unions too, huh?

Not only must be a bummer for the unions to not be the only big money game in town for the dems anymore, but they blew a boatload on Wisconsin for ultimately nothing.

Guess the unions are not going to be able to scrape up $400 million for Obama / dems this time.

I can't tell you how sad that makes us.

  • 37 votes
#1.16 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:38 PM EDT
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The President is being outspent because his policies are detrimental to the United States;Governor Romney was very successful as Governor of Massachusetts given that he had to deal with a liberal legislature and big unions; and,President Obama voted "present" on many issues while serving as a Illinois State Senator and later as a U.S. Senator. (Now that's vague and/or unspecific).

Now that is a big fat lie!

  • 33 votes
#1.17 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

You nailed it Sanity - I was not law review material.

Of course I did work my way through law school, and although I was not on law review, I did graduate debt free.

But then again, I get resumes in here all the time from law review people, and I always toss them. The last type of associate I need is a law review person.

Nope, no practical insight, and never the scrappy type.

But golly, like when I hire associates I'd like to see O's grades.

So how come they are secret?

Kinda like this fun Fast and Furious thing-y - we all know they are trying to hide something.

And this from the most transparent president evah.

  • 30 votes
#1.18 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

Thanks Seeking.

Spanky deflecting? The Teflon J.D.? The Dancing Wu Li Master of political debate? Ya' don't say. He is a veritable well spring of political knowledge wrapped in a force field.

I am not sure, but I don't think I have ever read Spanky taking on a direct question shoulder to shoulder. He invariably resorts to deflection, redirection, and always descends into a scatter-gun fusilade of leading questions meant to distract. Ol' Reliable. Indicates a total lack of vertebral or testicular tissue.

  • 26 votes
#1.19 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

Of course I did work my way through law school, and although I was not on law review, I did graduate debt free.

No, you didn't.

  • 21 votes
#1.20 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

What accredited law school could you possibly attend where you graduated debt free? Unless your wife, husband or parents paid for your tuition. Or you dropped out, maybe?

I worked through law school, and I went to a state university paying in-state tuition, and I still owed over $60,000. Either your parents paid for you to go to law school, or you're making up a story. I hope so, since there is something seriously wrong with the Republican Party, if people are tossing out resumes of people who are too qualified or intelligent.

That's how we got George W. Bush, remember? Flaunting mediocrity? I prefer intelligence, work ethic and hard work.

  • 28 votes
#1.21 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

Honestly I dont much care how much the Super Pacs, Unions and other groups spend on the elections. They are just trying to get their guy elected.

What gets me is the huge gap between the two guys running for the office. Obama spent 61 million compared to Romney spending 14?

WHO is outspending who here?

  • 9 votes
#1.22 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

Or you dropped out, maybe?

We have a winner.

  • 13 votes
#1.23 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

Seriously - what is with you libbies and testicles?

Is it really that bad for you all?

I get that Feisty is stalking WCA's nads, but in hte last couple of days...

Or is this all there is now that Wreckovery Summer, Part 3 is in full effect?

Fantastic.

  • 14 votes
#1.24 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

How sad for you Clotho.

Let's see I worked as a public accountant for two years, and saved every penny I could. SO that took care of the first year tuition. Then I started clerking during my first year and contiguously thereafter. Live cheap and incur no debt.

It worked then and still works now.

So what's the problem?

Sounds like you got some money issues Clotho. Wait let me guess - you are a democrat.

  • 24 votes
#1.25 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:57 PM EDT

Beverly in Chicago

Fired up and ready to go!!!


Just like in Wisconsin !!!

  • 20 votes
#1.26 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

You know it cost a lot to buy an election, and the Koch brothers with their friend have invested a lot. Plus, they have to spend a ton to keep the 5 Judges happy on the Supreme Court.

Remember America goes to the top bid, and the blind little republican sheep will follower in lock step.

  • 19 votes
#1.27 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

How odd that he will not answer.

Really Spanks? When did you ask him?

......aaaannnnnnnnnnddd still no answer from Spankaroni.

  • 18 votes
#1.28 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

Let's see I worked as a public accountant for two years, and saved every penny I could. SO that took care of the first year tuition. Then I started clerking during my first year and contiguously thereafter. Live cheap and incur no debt.

Look at the dumbf*ck try desperately to reinforce his lie. LOL!

I get that Feisty is stalking WCA's nads, but in hte last couple of days...

One problem: BCA doesn't have nads to stalk.

  • 19 votes
#1.29 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

Spanky-

Funny, I had two brothers who graduated from law school and they were not allowed to work for a significant portion of it.

  • 18 votes
#1.30 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

If life is like a box of chocolates. Whoever the hell opened the one with Obama and Holder in it would you please do us a favor and put them back in the box.

  • 10 votes
#1.31 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

Oh yeah, and Clotho - you need to open up your own office.

Ain't never gonna get rich working for someone else.

Just ask my pals Anna Molly and Steeler Fan. Both Bill out at $300 per hour = about $500k a year in revenue, but each work for a firm and only get a salary of about $120K.

Bad news Clotho. Especially with all that debt you carry.

Glad I could help. :)

  • 9 votes
#1.32 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

Oh and one final point for my financially challeged libbie friends.

I get a lot of resumes in. Many use text abbreviations and such.

Bad habits gang, bad habits.

But I'm sure Ruken is his own boss, so he's all good.

  • 12 votes
#1.33 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:09 PM EDT

WOW, making excuses for a loss in June?? That is a bad sign for the Barak Hussein camp.

I like how the president is more concerned with finding out who the donors to the GOP are then the 8.2% unemployment, debt, pretty much anything else in the world right now. Ohh except covering his ass in the FnF case they are losing ground in. Transparency remember?

I love sitting back and laughing while liberals implode.

  • 14 votes
#1.34 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

Just ask my pals Anna Molly and Steeler Fan. Both Bill out at $300 per hour = about $500k a year in revenue, but each work for a firm and only get a salary of about $120K.

No, they don't.

But I'm sure Ruken is his own boss, so he's all good.

No, and I wouldn't want to be either. I went to school for a CPRE degree, not to manage a business.

  • 13 votes
#1.35 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:11 PM EDT

Of course I did work my way through law school, and although I was not on law review, I did graduate debt free

If you weren't such an obnoxious fool you would be pathetic. Instead, you fall into the group of Internet user who begin to believe the lies they perpetrate. Judging by your posts the best you could ever hope for is to become an ambulance chasing lawyer. But again, judging by your posts, I would believe that you may have graduated high school with a 2.0 grade point average. That may be a bit generous on my part but I'll give you the benefit of doubt that you ever graduated high school.

I want you to imagine an attorney worth their weight that would have the time to spend on the First Read everyday as you spend. Not in my wildest imagination would this be plausible. After that, look back on some of your previous posts. Now try to imagine as we do why anyone would believe even for a moment that you were, are, or ever could be a lawyer who earned a degree from any accredited institution in the United States of America.

I suggest you retreat from the computer, run to the medicine cabinet and medicate per your doctor's orders.

  • 21 votes
#1.36 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

Sadly, they do.

Again, working for the man is bad.

But I suspect you are all over that, eh Ruken?

What's a little self employment tax anyway?

OUCH nomoresameo. But it's ok, someday, if you work really hard, create a business, and hire a crack staff, you will get it.

Plus that out to allow you to up those paltry $50 checks. Too bad it'll be too late for O.

  • 7 votes
#1.37 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

Again, working for the man is bad.

No, it's not.

I suggest you retreat from the computer, run to the medicine cabinet and medicate per your doctor's orders.

Bah-zing!

  • 15 votes
#1.38 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

Skanky's credentials are diminished by his credibility ... you know how that works right Skanks?

How's that judge vote in SD coming along?

Who did you vote for?

Are you really going to vote for a starched shirt tucked into starched jeans come November?

Spill it Skanks ... the gang all have their barf bags ready.

  • 16 votes
#1.39 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

Uh oh....Spanky caught in yet another fib...gee...we never saw that coming, right "counselor"? Too bad he has me on "ignore".

Spending a lot of time here lately, Spanky...so, just how much IS lawyerin' down in SoCal? Must be a lot. Have to "lay off" any of that staff from those jobs you "created"?

And I see you're still sticking to the same old, tired talking points. Got nothing new to bull@!$%# about? I guess when you're still rubbing your ass from the beatdown Domenico served up last week, you kind of have to take what you can get, right Lionel?

BTW, I saw the little circle-jerk you, WhiteCollarCriminal, and BigBen had yesterday. Classic whining of the first degree. So, you have nothing left but the cry baby tears. Classic!

Oh, and as far as you graduating "law school" debt free?

I call bull@!$%#, just like I do on the rest of your posts. But, here on the "internets", you can aspire to be anything you damn well please.

Bravo "counselor"...bravo.

  • 19 votes
#1.40 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:22 PM EDT

I don't vote for SD city matters. I live in the county, which is actually fiscally solvent.

Nov.? Romney is a lock, but come on it's on millionaire of another.

Obama=Bush=Romney.

Besides, good old economic reality is crashing down.

Gird your loins, you hoser.

  • 5 votes
#1.41 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:23 PM EDT

BTW, I saw the little circle-jerk you, WhiteCollarCriminal, and BigBen had yesterday. Classic whining of the first degree.

I f*cking love you.

  • 12 votes
#1.42 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:24 PM EDT

Spanky - delusional again. November a lock? And, you believe that fairy tale? Good for you! You'll be sooooo sad later this year. Now go back to the counter - someone is waiting for their happy meal!

  • 17 votes
#1.43 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:29 PM EDT

The judge vote out here is sad.

I chose Shaeffer (who got ousted in the primary) and Roberts (who also got ousted in the primaries).

Then again, San Diego isn't quite the fiscal powerhouse of LA, San Fran or Silicon Valley.

Not because we don't have the tools, but because we don't have the college graduation and too much poverty. 20% in some areas.

But our voting base is coming around and realizing that, county-wide, they've got issues. Give it time :)

And San Diego County is most definitely NOT solvent, Spanky. Not even close. The city is the only economy this area has. North County is laughable. So is Imperial. Both are wretches of poverty and ignorance...but holy smokes they love them Republicans out there...

  • 16 votes
#1.44 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:30 PM EDT

Not true that you cannot work while in law school. I had two people working for me attending law school and a family member who is an attorney also worked during law school at Tulane. Some schools recommend you only work 20 hours, or 1st year students are encouraged to not work at all. All depends on the school and if the student call balance the workload.

  • 5 votes
#1.45 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:34 PM EDT

Y'all should take Skank's use of hoser lightly ... it is a term of male bonding up here in the Big White ... Skanky is just trying to get the lingo down so he can sneak into the promised land.

  • 8 votes
#1.46 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:36 PM EDT

No Tek - I'm pretty sure the county is solvent.

In fact it ofter loans money to the city.

Oh and ideo - what was the name of that movie back in the 80's - with Rick Moranis, and Max VOn Sydow?

Comedy gold.

Of course you can do it ksw. But most, like Clotho don't plan ahead, and are not fiscally prudent.

  • 3 votes
#1.47 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

Geesus GOP you told us you were headed to some isolated lake here in Michigan. What are you sitting in a 1950 motel room with a leaky AC unit. Tapping away on a 15 year old compac 386 processor. Id hire Spanky before I would hire any law review flunky. I interview 4 to 5 people a month for engineering positions. Number 1 rule, if they mention their school/GPA/intelligence NO second interview. See people in my industry have to work together, they dont like snooty im smarter than you team members.

  • 4 votes
#1.48 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

Contempt 23-17.

Terry's family saying Obama making things worse.

You think?

  • 7 votes
#1.49 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

teknishan, California is in the crapper and your governor's solution, more taxes and fees. All those poor people you have don't care though because they don't think they pay much of either of those. That's what keeps the Democrats in power in California- A dumb electorate.

  • 4 votes
#1.50 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:45 PM EDT

... the name was 'Strange Brew' Skanks and we have better comedians than Ricky.

  • 4 votes
#1.51 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:50 PM EDT

Dude, San Diego County is not solvent right now. Nowhere near it.

Go ask the County Supes. Esp. District 3. That's a dog-fight.

Excerpt from 2008 Solvency Report, published May 2009 "Overall, San Diego County appears financially sound. However the jurisdiction does demonstrate weakness in budgetary solvency due to its reliance on intergovernmental revenue."

Said intragovernmental revenue has been cut, and that's why prop B was even devised by DeMaio.
We're not solvent, bud.

Because San Diego County is a welfare city of California.

Too many rural communities, not enough metropolis.

Rural communities cost more, per capita, than urban communities.

Rural communities also tend Republican, urban communities tend Democrat.

What do all these cities have in common?

NC 1,210
LA 716
Chicago 517
DC 410
Houston 365
Dallas 358
Philadelphia 336
San Francisco 329

Not only are they all the largest GDP cities in the US, they all (yes, all) vote democrat on a cook PVI.

And their gross GDP is next to them, in hundred of billions of dollars.

  • 8 votes
#1.52 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

[Contempt 23-17.]

Spanky, you make a great pivot man...

You conveniently left this out:

A House committee voted Wednesday along party lines...

It was the first sentence of the story...or did you just read the headlines as usual, Lionel?

More preening and parading by the GOP while people starve. Maybe they can vote on another "commemorative coin"?

You know damn well Holder isn't going anywhere. The GOP has waaaaaaay too much to lose if they pursue this any further, just like the feigned outrage over the Obama Administration's decision on immigration.

Now back to the drive-thru window for you.

  • 10 votes
#1.53 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:59 PM EDT

[I f*cking love you.]

Ahhh Ruken...I love it when you talk dirty ;)

  • 6 votes
#1.54 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:02 PM EDT

Ahhh.. Citizens UNITED.... gotta love the way the GOP tries to "BUY" what they can't win on their own merit.

  • 14 votes
#1.55 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:03 PM EDT

Spanky -

But then again, I get resumes in here all the time from law review people, and I always toss them. The last type of associate I need is a law review person.

you are too funny.

BTW: I knew an Architect who's boss put him in charge of screening all applicants to the firm. He would bury any new applicant out of school that requested more salary than he was making. There is no room for a primadonnas anywhere. They usually break much more than their qualifications make them look like they would fix.

Most people who head up Architecture firms don't have even a Masters degree. But they might hold a 5 year Architecture degree Plus one or more of the following; an accounting degree, a law degree, Finance, or MBA.

I'd bet the same is true of Law firms and Accounting firms too.

  • 1 vote
#1.56 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

Yeah, party lines.

Like Obamacare, right Misckster?

Oh and say it with me - by by Holder.

Tek - SD county rules. SD city bites. :)

  • 5 votes
#1.57 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

run Spanky run ... see Spanky run ... editions in braille are available

  • 9 votes
#1.58 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:09 PM EDT

Mickey, NY - yep, straight party lines. The GOP has to deflect from Romney. He looks so pitiful at every event they plan for him - plus so few show up. So, they try to deflect - think it will help them. Not a chance!

Mark 390433 - Mitt Romney was less than successful as governor of MA and the people could not stand him. That was probably the reason he didn't run for re-election. And, he hasn't had a job in years. Let's see - 2 runs for the Presidency and the GOP wouldn't even consider him. Great little resume going there.

If you check on Senators votes, many times people vote present. The number of time he did is not unusual. (You DO know McCain has voted present many times, right?)

President Obama is in no way detrimental to the US except in the minds of the mental midgets on the right.

You got no game!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 12 votes
#1.59 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

Instead, you fall into the group of Internet user who begin to believe the lies they perpetrate.

Brian,

Blogging mistake #1 - enhancing your internet resume always comes back to bite them in the ass!

Just look at Snookie-Joe, the only thing missing from hers in Indian Chief!

We did give her bonus points for having a PHD in economics! lmao!

My wise mother always told me, give them enough rope & they will hang themselves! ;o)

  • 13 votes
#1.60 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

[Yeah, party lines. Like Obamacare, right Misckster?]

Sorry Spanky...no more bull@!$%# from you. So, you have nothing but stale talking points, and blatant fabrications...somehow I'm not surprised.

You.

Have.

NOTHING...

We aren't talking about Obamacare...but I can see where you would want to deflect. The House "vote" to repeal Obamacare was also mostly along party lines...nothing but a symbolic vote (their words, not mine) and waste of taxpayer time and money...

And you know damn well, Lionel, that Holder isn't going anywhere. The GOP are nothing but little pussies regarding this matter and will stop short and claim some BS about "moving America forward" and such... and Issa is nothng but a modern-day McCarthy.

But you sign your name to anyone you like...

Now remember those words of advice I gave you? You know, the ones about which direction you should be going?

Or maybe you can arrange another chat room circle-jerk with WCA and BigBen...that's right up your alley, now isn't it?

Sure it is..."counselor"...

  • 10 votes
#1.61 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:24 PM EDT

Beverly's right "money doesn't vote, people do". So what if Romney has more money, if people are motivated enough they'll get out and vote. Obama's problem is the record he has to run on, not being outspent. If people don't know what he's about by now, they never will.

  • 2 votes
#1.62 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:43 PM EDT

The rightwingers and their ignorant, shallow existence... Anyone who is okay with their "one man, one vote" becoming meaningless in comparison to Sheldon Adelson's 10 million installments is a fool. Stand with Montana’s Corrupt Practices Act (1912), and put a stop to the Citizen's United ruling. May democracy prevail!

  • 10 votes
#1.63 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

sadindependent - so what Romney plans - specifically - impress you enough to vote for him?

  • 6 votes
#1.64 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:49 PM EDT

Ruken

Romney isn't a Romulan, he is a Ferengi.

Proof: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lydyatB3WR1qz864mo1_500.jpg

Damnnnnnn, that looks just like him.

  • 6 votes
#1.65 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:53 PM EDT
Comment author avatarMickey, NYExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Where'd you go, Spanky...I'm not done with you, you little pussy...

  • 5 votes
#1.66 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:55 PM EDT

Where did I say I was voting for Romney? My point was that I don't think spending is going to win this election. Obama already has the biggest bully pulpet in the world, he doesn't need to outspend Romney. I don't think either one of them has a clue how to fix the economy, to be honest.

  • 1 vote
#1.67 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

Keep looking for sanity. Anybody that equates the murder of two US citizens and hundreds of Mexican citizens with tax returns is not insane; they're just not capable of reasoning in the first place. What an idiotic comparison.

Do most senators have a 29% voting record? or have pastors that say "God d_mn America?" or buy their lot from a Chicago slumlord named Rezko that wound up in prison? or that started out their political career in the house of Bernardine Dohrn & Bill Ayers - the same Bernardine Dorhn that thought it was so hilarious that Manson's demons stuck a fork in Sharon Tate - "She's done" (hilarious, isn't it?); "Hung" with Frank Marshall Davis/Fa3rakhan/Pfledger, etc. His mother was a communist http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/barack-obamas-mother-was-a-communist/

and he appointed the communist Van Jones, as well as the safe schools czar whose "Hero" was an old pervert that wore dresses. http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2009/12/safe-school-czar-pervert.html

Oh, there's nothing detrimental about any of this.... or the fact that Putin and Ajad look at him with contempt and ignore anything he says. He has made the US a laughing stock; weak-kneed and pathetic.

Romney is rich enough that he need never work again - good management. His tax returns bother you, but not the fact that this president won't release documents that are suspect in the deaths of two American citizens - one of which was a border patrol officer; and hundreds more Mexican citizens. Oh, you have such a distorted sense of priorities.

Bet you never complained when the then 29% voting Illinois senator had his college transcripts sealed, while it was the public that paid for his education - through Affirmative Action. Never once thought that was hiding anything did you? No; and you wouldn't no matter what he did.

How ironic that the man whose campaign had record highs in 2008 will now be sucking hind teat. He should be used to that though: He's sucked government teat for his living since birth.

  • 6 votes
#1.68 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:57 PM EDT

Where'd you go, Spanky...

Don't disturb him - he's blowing WCA right now! ;o)

  • 7 votes
#1.69 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:00 PM EDT

sad independent

Beverly's right "money doesn't vote, people do". So what if Romney has more money, if people are motivated enough they'll get out and vote. Obama's problem is the record he has to run on, not being outspent. If people don't know what he's about by now, they never will.

sad independent

So how do you account for all those lackluster campaign events, people booing him, people falling asleep, and people protesting him in the state he was born in; Huh?

You do know if the election were held today Romney would lose. It's going to get worse day by day since Romney cant answer any question. When he does say something; it's so repulsive.

Even FOX NOISE criticizes him at this late date. Now you know that's bad.

  • 9 votes
#1.70 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:01 PM EDT

sadindependent

Where did I say I was voting for Romney? My point was that I don't think spending is going to win this election. Obama already has the biggest bully pulpet in the world, he doesn't need to outspend Romney. I don't think either one of them has a clue how to fix the economy, to be honest.

ALERT: Right Wing TROLL posting.

  • 5 votes
#1.71 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:04 PM EDT

arslp - well certainly won't find sanity with you! Where did you EVER see me equate murder with tax returns? You DIDN'T because I never did. Reading comprehension not your strong point, is it????

Your 2nd paragraph is all lies based upon right wing sites - maybe you should actually try finding facts - then you won't look so da**ed stupid!

Romney is where he is because of daddy's wealth and the rape of middle class and poor workers - nothing he did on his own. Get real!

Putin and Ajad look at anyone from the US with contempt - with the exception of Bush who they laughed at!

And, you're a lying idiot. The President got student loans to go through college which he and Michelle paid off prior to moving into the White House. Your ignorance is only overshadowed by your eagerness to show it!

Your hatred of the black man in the White House is so out of control that facts don't play into your posts. You truly are a mental midget. Now try to get an education because you just look like an utter moron!

Your post indicates you are a filthy excuse for a human being. Truly pathetic! But, perfect GOP material!

Obama/Biden 2012

  • 10 votes
#1.72 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:08 PM EDT

So, if I don't agree with you I'm a troll? Sad that you are that intolerant Beverly. What did I say that was so offensive? That Obama has an advantage being the sitting President? How is that trolling? I just speak the truth and I guess you can't handle that. For an open minded liberal, you sure have problems with anyone who doesn't toe the line.

  • 5 votes
#1.73 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:11 PM EDT

sadindependent - I think fixing the economy is going to take longer than anyone anticipated. The fact that the problem is worldwide makes it harder to correct. This will take longer than two terms. But, I believe we are on the right track. Derailing the middle class is NOT the way to make things better.

  • 10 votes
#1.74 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

Thanks for the "sane" answer, those are awful hard to come by on here. Like I said, I don't think either of them have a clue how to fix this mess. That's why it's so hard for me to decide which way to go. We can't afford another four years of this economy.

  • 2 votes
#1.75 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:20 PM EDT

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL -- LMAO, thank you for reviving me after reading arslp's drivel. Wow, what's worse, one-issue God, guns, gay voters, or conspiracy theorists who live in their Cone of Silence?

arslp -- Get a life. Lay off the rightwing chain emails, WorldNetDaily, and Glenn Beck. Stop worshiping at the Alter of Fear and Hate. No one is a baby killer and no one is coming for your guns!

sadindependent

...We can't afford another four years of this economy.

We've had a Lost Decade due to GOP/Bush-era voodoo economics, and that goes for the last four years of Bush tax cuts for the rich, blocking of regulations to prevent "Too Big to Fail" and the debt/deficits from unpaid, unnecessary wars. If you don't want another four years of this crap, then reelect President Obama and give him a Congress that will work together and work with him for change.

  • 10 votes
#1.76 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:28 PM EDT

sadindependent - I agree to an extent. But, I honestly believe Romney is going to go back to the Bush ways and we cannot afford to take a step back. Plus, the GOP isn't an inclusive party. That's important to me. First, I'm a woman and a party that thinks they have the right to tell me how I can live is not acceptable. Second, I have friends who are black, Asian, hispanic, etc. Again - GOP is not inclusive. And, let's not start on gays. I have people I work with, friends, etc. who are gay. They are great people and need to be treated as everyone else.

I can't vote for a party that bases their programs on hate.

  • 9 votes
#1.77 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

What we had TruePatriot was 8 years of Bush hatred from the left. It was nothing more than that. My gosh you liberals still can't get over Bush and he's been gone for over 3 years... You really got hooked on hating him and can't find the door. Most normal people give it up when their lies stop working. Not the democrats. They blame fast and furious on Bush... It's completely incredible how far the liberals will take things that are not true, just because Bush rattled them so much.

Now those same liberals are hooked on Obama, one of the most corrupt presidents we've seen in our lifetimes. His attorney general lied to congress and is covering it up. Obama envokes Executive Privilege to do what? What is Obama trying to cover up? Over 10000 pages of requested documents are being withheld from Congress, but you liberals will never ask why. The reason is, is because your worshipful master is guilty. All the cover-up, all the lies and liberals across the nation still march and chant Obama's name like he's some sort of god. This man has you looking like real fools. Enjoy!

  • 1 vote
#1.78 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:36 PM EDT

Gee, find a job yet Brianb?

Nahh...still sucking from the "big bad gubment teat", right Brian?

You're full of crap too, what with you're teabagging conspiracy theories...

  • 6 votes
#1.79 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

Nahh...still sucking from the "big bad gubment teat", right Brian?

Don't pick on BB Mickey - it is always nice to hear from the trailer-trash crowd!

Poor BB - he wants a piece of the action that is going on between SpankMe & BCA!

BB - Every circle-jerk needs a pivot man and having the displeasure of listening to your qualifications... I would say YOU are the right man for the JOB!

  • 4 votes
#1.80 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:03 PM EDT

Thank you Feisty Redhead I love reading your post. Awesome.

At every turn you beat back the Crazy FUX NEWS, Tea Baggers Nut Jobs.

Do me a favor Feisty Redhead Roselle ask the RWNJS why are the repukes in the senate voting for a 969 Billion Dollars Farm spending bill - Farm Welfare while taking 4.6 Billion Dollars in food stamps from the elderly and poor. WOW

  • 8 votes
#1.81 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:10 PM EDT

Back to the article - Obama had major bundlers last time around that are ignoring him this go round. Obama outspent McCain by a huge margin. Obama had no problem being a richie rich bully. Obama has spent more time golfing and fundraising than any other President in world history. Golfing alone he has spent 4 months (100 rounds) in 3.5 years and counting, or more golf than 99.9% of Americans.

As to Mitt and his plans, Obama wasn't spilling the beans with specifics in June when he ran, but suddenly the left wants a different standard? How surprising.

As for Obama, he won't even take questions let alone answer them, and has expanded Presidential power that would make Nixon blush. Yeah, great candidate you got their lefties. You may think the polls are close, but I have news for you, Obama is going to lose big. The MSM will look on in horror on election night, much like 2010, and the follow up in WI just a few weeks ago. Caught all the leftie "pundits" off guard. Hilarious!

  • 3 votes
#1.82 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:08 PM EDT

Leave it to a stupid liberal to ask stupid questions without getting past the democratic talking points. The farm spending bill will stay in America. You do realize farmers feed the nation... it's called food and even you liberals need to eat it, although if you ever quit, it wouldn't hurt this nation one bit. Thank goodness Dumb Fux and Mickey Mouse have been on ignore for a long time. Any comment those two slurping women make amounts to spittle on the ground.

  • 1 vote
#1.83 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:10 PM EDT

"When a reporter mentioned that the Obama campaign had a clear financial advantage over John McCain in 2008, another top official shot back ........"

I guess that old saying "Do as I say, not as I do" applies to the Obama campaign.

  • 3 votes
#1.84 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:33 PM EDT

First, I'd like to say GOD BLESS YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA, and THANK-YOU for KEEPING my FAMILY SAFE from Domestic Terrorists, Teabaggers, and those right-wing-wacko Republicans!

Of course the Republicans are outspending you. Having been a Republican before I know the innerworkings and hidden-agendas of the GOP party. The Republicans think they have more Money than God, because they don't pay Taxes, hide their Money in Swiss Bank Accounts, and set up phony Shell Companies in the Cayman Island. Why it's my understanding that even their Presidential candidate Mitt "RobMe" is guilty of evading Taxes through these nefarious and other semi-illegal means. He should be Ashamed of himself, but he isn't. That's not just sad, that's Sick

Anyway I'm encouraging all my Republican friends, Conservatives, Ron Paul supporters, and Teabaggers to "jump ship" from the Romney bus, and Vote a straight Democratic ticket, come this November 2012. It will be Fun, and drive thos Republicans crazy with all things Obama for 4 more years!

  • 8 votes
#1.85 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:54 PM EDT

Job1..(#1.27)..."You know it cost a lot to buy an election"........"Remember America goes to the top bid"

That explains 2008 ......

This is funny watching the Dems Self-Implode....and it's only June !!!

Guess BarryO isn't gonna quite reach that $$ Billion $$ he predicted......How long you think Hollyweird is gonna keep opening their checkbooks ??

  • 1 vote
#1.86 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:56 PM EDT

If Obama is the only "alternative" we have to Romney we're in trouble, because both of them are horrible.

Obama's economic “vision”

By Andre Damon and Barry Grey
21 June 2012

A week ago, President Obama gave a speech, billed as a major statement on economic policy, that was remarkable only for the brazenness of its cynicism and dishonesty….

….“Over the past few decades,” Obama said, “the income of the top 1 percent grew by more than 275 percent—to an average of $1.3 million a year. Big financial institutions, corporations saw their profits soar. But prosperity never trickled down to the middle class.”

He continued: “Without strong enough regulations, families were enticed, and sometimes tricked, into buying homes they couldn’t afford. Banks and investors were allowed to package and sell risky mortgages. Huge, reckless bets were made with other people’s money on the line. And too many from Wall Street to Washington simply looked the other way.”

After the financial “house of cards” (Obama’s words) collapsed in 2008, American families’ wealth “declined at a rate nearly seven times faster than when the market crashed in 1929. Millions of homes were foreclosed. Our deficit soared. And nine million of our citizens lost their jobs… hardworking Americans who had met their responsibilities, but were forced to pay for the irresponsibility of others.”

This description amounts to an indictment of the political and economic system—greed, criminality and official corruption working together to plunder the people and multiply the profits and fortunes of the corporations and the rich.

Obama, of course, drew no such conclusions from his own words. Nor did he offer any proposals to address the social catastrophe he had described. Somehow, his “vision”—supposedly vastly different from that of the Republicans—failed to include any measures to create jobs, provide relief for the victims of the crisis, or hold the criminals responsible for the disaster accountable.

On the contrary, Obama, as usual, talked out of both sides of his mouth. He took pains to reassure his real constituency—Wall Street and the corporate-financial elite—that his quasi-populist posturing meant nothing and he remained committed to the policy of austerity and attacks on working class living standards that he had pursued throughout his first term in office—a policy that is in all essentials identical to that of his opponent.

Thus, he declared that programs “we can’t afford” had to be cut. His vision, he stressed, “despite what you hear from my opponent,” had “never been a vision about how government creates jobs”—meaning no government jobs or public works programs. The vision did, however, include “a federal government that is leaner and more efficient,” i.e., thousands of federal worker layoffs and cuts in pay and benefits.

Obama boasted of signing a law to cut the deficit by $2 trillion and “reduce our yearly domestic spending to its lowest level as a share of the economy in nearly 60 years.” What was America like 60 years ago? No Medicare, no Medicaid, no food stamps, no federal aid to education, no interstate highway system.

Obama’s vision turns out to be a nightmare scenario of social retrogression that amounts to a social counterrevolution….

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jun2012/obam-j21.shtml

  • 1 vote
#1.87 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:33 AM EDT

take it easy people listen to Jimmy Buffet and have drink ... and simply vote based on your OWN thoughts ...

don't let the marketing machines manipulate you...do your own fact finding mission

  • 4 votes
#1.88 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:40 AM EDT

If you factor in the kid gloves treatment that Obama gets from the press, he doesn't have to spend nearly as much money to get his message out. I mean, when you have NBC news editing Romney tapes (for free) for the sole purpose of making him look bad on the nightly news, why pay for advertising?!

Obama has hollywood, the mainstream media, the unions, and the liberal institutions of so-called higher learning touting is messiahship, all for free. It's a good thing that you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig and it's still a pig!

  • 3 votes
#1.89 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:34 AM EDT

nomoresameo

I want you to imagine an attorney worth their weight that would have the time to spend on the First Read everyday as you spend.

you nailed it with your comment. What lawyer in their right mind would spend all day, every day posting instead of being a lawyer????

Spanky, you keep bragging about how smart you are with you finances, yet you lose money every time you are here posting (1hr posting = -$500). Instead of making money, you lose money - you're not as smart as you claim to be.

  • 5 votes
#1.90 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:27 AM EDT

Tnsevol

Working is discouraged. BTW, most of my years I went to school I worked. My worst grades happened when I wasn't working.

Working some isn't a problem provided If you can take off at the appropriate time to meet deadlines and take exams.

  • 1 vote
#1.91 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:40 AM EDT

nomoresamo

Only Jr colleges and trade schools accept less than a 2.5. There are some law schools that accept just over 2.5 but the far majority require 3.00 or greater.

  • 1 vote
#1.92 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:45 AM EDT

Waaaaaaaa!!!! We can't unilaterally buy elections with union money and unlimited MSM coverage anymore!!! Waaaaaaa!!!

    #1.93 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:34 AM EDT

    what is there to argue about ....Corporations and Foreign Governments want this country back and they will spend any amount to get it ..the sad thing is most republicans dont believe our country is being taken over ...Our politicians and courts are being bought by special interests ... all they care about is there right to carry a gun and restricting womens health care.. wait until they completely take over ..then nobody except their bought and paid for police will have a gun and nobody on fixed income will have health care

    • 3 votes
    #1.94 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:52 AM EDT

    Brianb - pathetic, as usual. Editing tapes to make Romney look bad? No one need to try to make Romney look bad - he does that all by himself. He can't talk which is why his handlers won't let him talk to the press or answer questions. He is a poor excuse for anything - much less a presidential candidate.

    President Obama answers questions - even the rude ones - and handles them well.

    Face it - you've got no candidate - just a bumbling idiot but that fits the GOP.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • 4 votes
    #1.95 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:37 AM EDT

    SeekingSanity

    Face it - you've got no candidate - just a bumbling idiot but that fits the GOP.

    You are being too kind. I think he is a lying hypocrite who doesn't care about anyone except himself and his bank account.

    • 4 votes
    #1.96 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:38 PM EDT

    "We are going to be the first incumbent [president] outspent," said one of these officials at a pen-and-pad session with reporters in DC.

    Yup, and there is a very good reason for it. Dumbama lies too much and the Dems just want to spend money. Who needs this crap?

    • 1 vote
    #1.97 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:08 PM EDT

    The way this campaign is imploding, it would not shock anyone if Obama was broke by Labor Day.

    • 3 votes
    #1.98 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:13 PM EDT

    i am sensitive to immigration but i am also sensitive to American's who have suffered unemployment and underemployment these past 4 years since OBAMA took office. with his support for immigration, i have to wonder how many of these new citizens will be competing for the same jobs out of work American's are.............i personally feel, these folk (not their fault) will work for lower wages, no benefits and much less than out of work AMERICAN's will and they are the one's who will be hired. i wonder if OBAMA considered that when he sided with lowering the immigration status. as POTUS, he is at fault, as POTUS he cannot point fingers at anyone except himself. as POTUS, his inner circle of friends have no advice. he needs to go, we cannot afford another 4 years of his blasphemy against this country. he has never been for US!

    • 4 votes
    #1.99 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:18 PM EDT

    So, because money = speach in politics, what I say means more than what you say because I can send more money than you to my political candidate's war chest. If that war chest then is used in semi-false advertising that pisses off people who would have voted your way and convinces them to vote MY way, I win, and you lose. And this is how you want America's political system to work?

    • 1 vote
    #1.100 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:21 PM EDT

    Feisty, someday I hope to read one of your post and find that you actually bring something to the table other then insults, name calling, and four year old rants. Try to add to the discussion once in a while instead of bringing it down into the gutter where you seem to feel the most comfortable.

    The simple fact, which is stated in the article is that both campaigns and allies have about $73 million dollars and are basically tied for right now. Both use these other methods of getting money but Republicans seem to either use them more or are better at doing it. No one thought money bought elections when Obama out raised and outspent McCain 4 years ago so stop with the whining.

    If Romney was getting his butt kicked because Democrats were killing it using SuperPacs none of you would complain because it works towards your advantage, as soon as it doens't work to your advantage you cry foul like child. Grow up, and let the best man win.

    • 2 votes
    #1.101 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:22 PM EDT

    further more, i encourage all hecklers who go to obama speeches, where ever they are to speak up, interrupt, make him mad, this seems to be the only way american's can get him to listen to us. he is not speaking or concerned about the american people, he lost sight of american's along time ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 1 vote
    #1.102 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:24 PM EDT

    So, because money = speach in politics, what I say means more than what you say because I can send more money than you to my political candidate's war chest. If that war chest then is used in semi-false advertising that pisses off people who would have voted your way and convinces them to vote MY way, I win, and you lose. And this is how you want America's political system to work?

    So for people like me who don't have a lot of money and don't get heard, I can choose to send my money to a group that believes and thinks the way I do and our money put together lets us have a voice speratly we wouldn't have. Sounds American to me.

    I don't feel your "Semi-False" advertising comment can be taken seriously since 1.) Semi-False adds are done by every politician everywhere since the beginning of time. 2.) Some of what you would call false I might think is very true, and some things I think are unfair and false you may seem very relevant and true. 3) Voting is a big deal and if you're an idiot who does noresearch on your own and believes what ever your told by a commercial, then you get the leader you deserve. 4.) I'm surprised you worry so much about the commercials campaigning for someone, but don't seem to care if someone has an I.D. to vote? I guess you figure voter fraud won't help much if all those misleading commercials don't tow your parties line.

      #1.103 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:33 PM EDT

      Spanky is trying to deflect from the fact that Romney will not release his taxes. Obama headed Harvard Law Review and Spanky is jealous because that is something he is nowhere qualified to do! It totally upsets him!

      LMFAO! Obama never published ONE THING in HLR, NOTHING! Anybody is qualified to not publish in the HLR!

      Also a question, how in the world do some of you have the nerve to criticise Romney for not answering questions or being specific... Obama NEVER said anything but "Hope" and "Change" and "Let me be clear", but he really never said or answered anything with specifics. Tom Brokaw stated that flat out.

      Reporters in Alaska outnumbered reporters in Hyde Park 10 to one trying to dig up dirt on a VP candidate. How embarrasing for the press, now they get no respect and wonder why...

      Quit being such HYPOCRITES!

      • 2 votes
      #1.104 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:43 PM EDT

      Obama can't blame Bush, well wait a bit and he will find a way to.Obama's claim to fame...telepromter and blame it on Bush or someone else...Lord help us if he gets re elected......:0(

        #1.105 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:41 PM EDT

        Top Obama campaign officials today said they would be outspent by Mitt Romney

        Obama must have thrown the towel in and is not spending his campaign money. Probably saving it for his presidential library. I'm surprised there are even any rats left on that sinking ship. Even the big eared jug headed idiot has jumped.

        • 2 votes
        #1.106 - Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:35 PM EDT

        Seeking Sanity-

        Editing tapes to make Romney look bad? No one need to try to make Romney look bad - he does that all by himself.

        Time to diversify yourself...you need to read more than Left Wing Radical publications! this is real and you are the one that is delusional! But go ahead and refute this...because it just discredits you and your talking points for those of us that are better read...

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/19/msnbc-romney-edit-andrea-mitchell_n_1609298.html

        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/20/nbc-ignoring-call-for-explanation-in-wawagate-gaffe/

        http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/06/msnbc-misportrays-romneys-wawa-remarks-126545.html

          #1.107 - Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

          He should raise the cost of a diner seat (roast chicken) from $40,000 to $50,000. More of the "middle class" would surely attend and he would get more dough.

            #1.108 - Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:16 AM EDT

            4.) I'm surprised you worry so much about the commercials campaigning for someone, but don't seem to care if someone has an I.D. to vote? I guess you figure voter fraud won't help much if all those misleading commercials don't tow your parties line

            Well, first off I am not a party member. I watch as both sides blast outright lies at the public to see which ones stick. And as for voter identification you are simply putting words im my mouth, which is another despicable practice of politicians. I absolutly feel that each individual voter needs to be identified. I just don't see using that as an excuse to purge voter rolls of opponents as anything close to fair! I should also mention that during the 2000 election fiasco, as a former member of the military who voted absentee, I was appalled that the party I was against was trying to get those absentee ballots tossed out, only to find that the party I affiliated with at the time was ALSO doing the exact same thing in a different county. Screw them all.

            • 1 vote
            #1.109 - Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:09 PM EDT
            Reply

            You can blame" PARTY LINE ROBERTS " for this !

            • 19 votes
            #2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

            Damn NoLimit -- You are dead on. What goes around . . . .

            • 9 votes
            #2.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:18 PM EDT

            NoLimitSoldier50, and Ben.

            Today is a real bad day for these socialist-capitalist Liberals. Even Feisty Beisty has disappeared.

            • 14 votes
            #2.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

            Today is a real bad day for these socialist-capitalist Liberals.

            How are those "Liberals" in any way socialist?

            Be specific.

            • 13 votes
            #2.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

            1. They believe that the tax code is a tool for bringing economic equality by bringing the top down rather than the bottom up.

            Rather than as a tool to pay for the necessities of government used to protect our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

            • 5 votes
            #2.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

            Oh and they believe the 'private sector is doing just fine.'

            Cause they have never been part of it.

            • 13 votes
            #2.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

            For starters, the top would actually have to be paying the "top" rate to be brought down. If you are in tune, you know that is not the case.

            • 6 votes
            #2.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

            You can blame Obama for this when he refused to take public financing such as McCain did.

            Republicans went to court PREPARED and said never again. If the Democrats didn't frikken demonize big money so much, maybe you wouldn't be crying the blues now.

            Just love it when right-wing nut jobs re-write history to fit their narrative. This is very far removed from "The Way it Was".

            • 10 votes
            #2.8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

            Yes, how are we socialists?

            There was a conference call today with Romney campaign; when they got three straight questions about immigration, they ended the conference call. LoL.

            Couldn't/wouldn't provide an answer to the press.

            That's how they operate. Karl Rove & Co. are back again.

            • 14 votes
            #2.9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

            Did you have a problem with 0bama being insulated during the 08 election?

            Doubt it.

            • 6 votes
            #2.10 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

            Romney is a coward. Rove always was a coward. McCain is a liar. Condi didn't do her job.

            This is what all that money will bring back.

            Losers.

            • 14 votes
            #2.11 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

            Republicans are the actual Socialists.

            They privatize profit and socialize the risk. Case in point: bank bailouts.

            How bout' those republicans using government money to build their bridges so that private firms / fat cats can profit? They suuuuuuure know when to sidle up to the government pig trough when they need to don't they? Republicans also know how to suckle off the government teat when they want to use my Socialist roads, fire departments, cell phone satellites, dams, roads, police protection,...etc.

            And how bout' those republican defense firms lining up their Brinks trucks for government money for those fat defense contracts? Mmmmmm, .........mmmmmmm,.........good!

            • 17 votes
            #2.12 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:55 PM EDT

            That's how they operate. Karl Rove & Co. are back again.

            Yes, they are. The funniest part is they have all the GOP/TP welfare queens convinced to vote against their life-line support of welfare and food stamps. I would be downright hysterical if it weren't so pathetic.

            • 10 votes
            #2.13 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

            [Oh and they believe the 'private sector is doing just fine. 'Cause they have never been part of it.]

            Spanky the pivot man...you know EXACTLY what Obama meant by his comment...'cause you're "smart", right?

            So, "counselor"? You are "smart", right?

            ...sure you are...

            • 8 votes
            #2.14 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:11 PM EDT

            Mickey - in Spanky's mind he towers over all of us! But, only in his mind!

            • 6 votes
            #2.15 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:13 PM EDT

            RedDevPS you got that right. A family relation of mine who shall remain nameless is not even 40 yet, disabled (not really, except by choice), on the dole, hasn't worked a single job he's ever had more than a couple years, is all talk and no action, ALWAYS magically knows more than anyone else about any subject you care to bring up, and any political discussion devolves into him bitching about welfare queens... and he votes a straight Republican ticket (while claiming to be an "Independent," naturally).

            And I don't think he's Spanky, though I can't be sure. *shudder*

            • 6 votes
            #2.16 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:03 PM EDT

            Mickey, when Obama says "The private sector is doing just fine" and then went on to explain he believes we need to add even more debt to hire more city, county and state government workers as a fix to the economy, you don't need a big dictionary to know what he meant. The words were clear.

            If however you want to parse words like liberals are so apt to do, just like Clinton wanting a definition for the meaning of the word "is", you will find yourselves chasing your tails in search of a destination.

            Obama believes what he says, and many of us think this makes him a useless idiot.

            • 1 vote
            #2.17 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:18 PM EDT
            JaneEcoDeleted

            JaneEco: Where did that all come from, you are one angry person with alot of false accusations.

              #2.19 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:20 AM EDT

              Wow, that's his concern at this point in the election cycle? How about he's has no record after nearly 4 years that is positive. How about becoming an international laughing stock? How about his record on the economy, or unemployment, or health care, or taxes, uniting the country behind a vision? How about his sworn duty to enforce the laws of the land? How about firing an attorney general who has badly misled the country and had to retract every major statement made about F and F, and the Terry family is still without an explanation and no one is held accountable? All of these reasons lead to a conclusion, America's faith in Hope and Change of 2008 turned into empty promises and policy decisions that were all about Obama and not about America.

              • 1 vote
              #2.20 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:25 AM EDT

              Where as governor, his state was 47 out of 50 on job creation!

              Great line, but what was the unemployment rate in his state? Let me help you out. It was 5.6% when he took office and went up to 6.0% in that same year, but as he started Governing the rate started coming down until it was at 4.7% when he left office .

              Because of the numbers it would of been IMPOSSIBLE to be in the top ten states, yet you guys use it anyway. Ask any American how they would feel about a 4.7% unemployment rate?

                #2.21 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:54 PM EDT

                SeekingSanity:

                What is a lie about the 2nd paragraph of my post above as you said? the 20-something percent voting record? Nope; that is not a lie. Where Obama got his extra lot? From Antonin Rezko, a Chicago land slumlord who wound up in prison? No; that is not a lie. That Obama's political campaign for senate started out in the home of Bill Ayers and the monstrous Bernardine Dohrn, who thought it hilarious that the Manson murders stuck a fork in Sharon Tate? No, that is not a lie. Look up the witch on Wiki - you can at least do that, can't you? That Jeremiah Wright didn't say, "God d_mn America?" Nope, that's not a lie.

                Nothing else written in the 2nd paragraph was a lie, either. You think just because you say it, it is? You are as delusional as Obama. You, like the rest of your ilk, didn't check out this community organizer. Blind.

                  #2.22 - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:52 PM EDT
                  Reply

                  As long as he's not out-smarted....

                  • 5 votes
                  #3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:05 PM EDT

                  The President cannot be outsmarted...maybe by Michelle, but not by Romney.

                  • 29 votes
                  #3.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                  Amy - Romney could not outsmart a 3rd grader! How sad he is the BEST the GOP has to offer!

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 23 votes
                  #3.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                  Romney couldn't out smart my dog.

                  • 18 votes
                  #3.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                  Sure, that's the ticket.

                  He's super smart and all. Plus, and as you continuously proclaim [Amy, Sanity] you are soooo very much smarter than Mitt.

                  Ah, now there. Feel better?

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:44 PM EDT

                  Spanky - I have a 10 year old niece who is smart than Mitt. Your point????

                  • 14 votes
                  #3.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                  Sure you do Sanity.

                  Sure you do.

                  But please tell me, upon what do you base that?

                  You have met him?

                  • 3 votes
                  #3.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:59 PM EDT

                  You know it cost a lot to buy an election, and the Koch brothers with their friend have invested a lot. Plus, they have to spend a ton to keep the 5 Judges happy on the Supreme Court.

                  Remember America goes to the top bid, and the blind little republican sheep will follower in lock step.

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:00 PM EDT

                  But please tell me, upon what do you base that?

                  I'll field that one.

                  I think Sanity's niece knows that corporations are not people Spanks.

                  That clear it up?

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:04 PM EDT

                  and the blind little republican sheep will follow in lock step.

                  You mean Goose Step don't you Job1?

                  Hi by the way.....

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

                  Funny, cause I bet she loves Ronald McDonald.

                  And I buy happy meals. I know he and Hamburgler are people.

                  I know that because I saw them on the TEEVEE

                  • 3 votes
                  #3.10 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                  Spanky - you SERVE happy meals.

                  My niece is in a program for gifted children. She has participated in many competitions with other high achievers and held her own.

                  Mitt Romney cannot answer a question without sputtering and eventually making a nonsensical comment. He is less than high quality as far as intelligence can go.

                  Spanky - you have to get over your jealousy of Obama. Just because he achieved far more than you could ever hope for - don't worry. Someone has to serve the happy meals!

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 17 votes
                  #3.11 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:15 PM EDT

                  You mean Goose Step don't you Job1?

                  Hi GOPisextinct, You are correct!

                  • 9 votes
                  #3.12 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

                  Spanky - you SERVE happy meals.

                  No, he gets served in the soup kitchen.

                  • 15 votes
                  #3.13 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:18 PM EDT

                  @ Seeking So your 10 year niece graduated from Harvard??? That is quite an accomplishment... LOL you guys are too funny.

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.14 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:20 PM EDT

                  ksw62118 - no but when she goes to college she very well could. She can still walk circles around Romney - a lot of people could.

                  Amazingly, you're not funny but a little sad. Nothing I wouldn't expect from a Republican!

                  Obama/Biden 2012

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.15 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:33 PM EDT

                  @Seeking I see you still haven't found anything useful to say and still wrong. I am not a Republican..

                    #3.16 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:39 PM EDT

                    lmao....... such a waste of good (ahem) comedic talent. You guys should be on CNN (comic national network) Cute mask GOP wear it out in public much. I do....... I get a lot of compliments on the glasses. PS I will wave as I drive by the union hall!

                    • 3 votes
                    #3.17 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:48 PM EDT

                    ksw62118 - so when someone calls you on your stupidity they "haven't found anything useful to say" but your "put down" was useful? Pathetic And, you're clearly a Republican!

                    • 4 votes
                    #3.18 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:16 PM EDT

                    Oh and Spanky - my niece doesn't like McDonalds - too greasy!

                    • 4 votes
                    #3.19 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:18 PM EDT

                    Aw... Seeking you really hurt my feelings with the FR regular mean girl routine... Not....

                      #3.20 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

                      ksw62118 - aw I'm so disappointed - NOT!

                      • 4 votes
                      #3.21 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:14 PM EDT

                      Don't you just love these left wing idiots like SeekingSanity and others claiming they and their children are all smarter than Romney, what a joke, if you all are so smart where are your millions of dollars.

                      • 2 votes
                      #3.22 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

                      sfcret - you have no idea what I make. But you clearly are a low information voter and pretty much nothing in life. Perfect for the GOP!

                      Obama/Biden 2012

                      • 1 vote
                      #3.23 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:38 AM EDT

                      SeekingSanity - I really don't care what you make or how you make it. I can tell by your postings that you are lacking in the education category. Anyone who claims they and their children are smarter than Romney tells me all I did to know about you. Do everyone a favor and get your head out of your rear end.

                        #3.24 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:20 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        waaaahhhhh they're going to outspend me, maybe if the unions hadn't wasted so much $$$$ in Wisconsin they could pony up more for the big baby. Ask Michelle if you can borrow your nads back for a day.

                        • 15 votes
                        Reply#5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:08 PM EDT

                        LOL!!!! I wish I had thought of that comment:)!! So true......... So very true.............

                        • 9 votes
                        #5.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

                        Huh? The Unions were severely outspent in Wisconsin as well by the these corrupt businesses/ wealthy donors (not saying that unions aren't corrupt as well, they are)

                        • 10 votes
                        #5.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                        Umm, no they weren't. Unions spent about the same. You need to add all spending including those from other organizations that were supporting unions. Not saying that was right or wrong but the argument that Walker won only because he "spent more" is just not true. Walker won because his message was better. Unions put all their money in that election knowing it was so very very important - and they lost. So the point that unions spent their money and now can't give those millions to Obama is a valid point.

                        • 3 votes
                        #5.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                        It is interesting that the unions were bled dry in Wisconsin, and lost, and yet the Republicans complain that they are powerful?

                        • 5 votes
                        #5.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:17 PM EDT

                        The Union spent money for people on the ground which does not count as funds to a candidate.

                          #5.5 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:54 AM EDT
                          Reply

                          I guess "Hope and Change" meant "after 3+ years of failed Obama policies we Hope we can find some Change"

                          • 9 votes
                          Reply#6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:09 PM EDT

                          What do you have to say about 8 years of lies and failed Republican policies? If Republicans had any brains they'd wait for the Democrats to finish cleaning the huge mess they left before starting their usual policies of slash and burn all over again.

                          • 8 votes
                          #6.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:10 PM EDT

                          Or, "hope to gawd he does not get another four years"

                            #6.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                            Maria - the Americans as a whole don't see a lot of cleaning, just power grabbing, record spending, complaining about Republicans and the rich, and blaming Bush, Republicans, and the rich for everything.

                            • 2 votes
                            #6.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:14 PM EDT

                            Maria: It was not 8 years of "Bush". It was 2 years of a Democrat Congress (2006-2008) that blocked everything Bush wanted to do. Keep in mind the economy was doing great in 2006. Then Dems block everything (the original party of "No") and it got much much worse. You stop Republican policies the economy starts to decline. THEN somehow convince enough lemmings to vote MORE Democrats in 2008 AND a guy as president that has never had a real job in his life and the last 3 years it has been made worse.

                            But let's stop the whole "it's George Bush's fault". Obama said the economy was driven "in a ditch" and elect him and he will fix it. 3+ years later it is worse. So he did NOT know how to fix it (of course what do you expect from a guy who has never been a leader to as much as a lemonade stand his entire life. Then give him the most powerful country. Of COURSE he was going to fail!!). So Obama has caused this economy to nearly collapse. He wants 4 more jobs to finish the job of collapsing this economy?

                              #6.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:55 PM EDT

                              Wow Pro, where did you get that time-line, from Faux News? Bush was Pres. and could have vetoed or threatened it, and acted like a Pres.. But NO, his hands were tied by what? 2008- 2010 was the period where the filibuster was used more than any time in history in the Senate, by Repugs, and you say the Dems. where the party of "No" from 2006-2008? Get Real and stop deflecting the truth. Oh, I suppose the party line vote by the Republicans from 2008 to 2012, is their way of protecting our rights and the American way,LOL.

                              • 3 votes
                              #6.5 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:34 AM EDT

                              ProBusiness, Oblama said he "owns the economy" in 2011, and so did his Dem Chairwoman. Well, they are right. It's theirs and they have totally screwed it up.

                              When we vote in November, the economy is going to be the thing that destroys Oblama. He owns it, he caused it, and he'll pay in November.

                              • 1 vote
                              #6.6 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:39 AM EDT

                              Maria - Bush vetoed Fiscal 2009 for it's overspending. Obama signed the vetoed budget his second day in the Oval office. He and the Democrats are blaming Bush for the 2009 Budget. What is also key about this is 2009 the official budget jumped by $535 Billion and is the new high water mark that Obama is using to say he has not significantly increased spending. Previously, average annual increases were about 50 Billion.

                              • 1 vote
                              #6.7 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:02 AM EDT

                              http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2010/01/cato_dont_blame_1.htm, again DB uses deception and no facts just his precudiced view of history........ LOL.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22981657/ns/politics/t/bushs-proposed-trillion-budget-biggest/ and,

                              http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/bushs-2009-budget-shouldnt-be-ignored

                              http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100727085339AAboi04

                              http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110608044534AAaQKOA

                              not one veto from Bush during the Republican controlled Congress of 2001-2006 and one appropriation bill veto out of twelve from 2006-2009,,,,,,,,,,, give us a break...........and don't be a stooge.

                              • 2 votes
                              #6.8 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                              Straight from the history timeline,,,,,,,,,

                              George W. Bush

                              Main article: George W. Bush

                              1. July 19, 2006: Vetoed H.R. 810, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, a bill to ease restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Override attempt failed in House, 235-193 (286 needed).
                              2. May 1, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1591, U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007. Override attempt failed in House, 222-203 (284 needed). A later version of the bill that excluded certain aspects of the initial legislation that the President disapproved of H.R. 2206, was enacted as Pub.L. 110-28 with the President's approval.
                              3. June 20, 2007: Vetoed S. 5, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007. No override attempt made.
                              4. October 3, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 976, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 ("SCHIP"). Override attempt failed in House, 273-156 (286 votes needed).
                              5. November 2, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1495, Water Resources Development Act of 2007. Overridden by House, 361-54 (277 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 79-14 (62 needed), and enacted as Pub.L. 110-114 over President's veto.
                              6. November 13, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3043, Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008. Override attempt failed in House, 277-141 (279 votes needed).
                              7. December 12, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3963, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007.[24] Override attempt failed in House, 260-152 (275 votes needed).
                              8. December 28, 2007: Pocket Vetoed H.R. 1585, National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008.[25] A later version of the bill that changed a minor provision of which the President disapproved was quickly passed by Congress (H.R. 4986) and was enacted with the President's approval as Pub.L. 110-181 on 28 January 2008.
                              9. March 8, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2082, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008.[26][27] Override attempt failed in House, 225-188.
                              10. May 21, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2419, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill.[28][29] Overridden by House, 316-108 (283 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 82-13 (64 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-234 over the President's veto. Due to a clerical error, this act was repealed by Pub.L. 110-246.
                              11. 18 June 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6124, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill, re-passed by Congress to correct a clerical error in HR 2419.[30] Overridden by House, 317-109 (284 votes required). Overridden by Senate, 80-14 (63 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-246 over the President's veto.
                              12. July 15, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6331, Medicare Improvements for Patients and Providers Act.[31] Overridden by House, 383-41 (283 votes required.) Overridden by Senate, 70-26 (64 votes required). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-275 over the President's veto.

                              Source: wikipedia and Congressional Record,,,,,,,,,

                              Notice the last veto was over-written by a 70 vote yes in the Senate,,,,,,.Did the Dems. have 70 seats?,NO and how about the House ,383 yes votes, all Dems.? No,,,,,,,,,,,LOL.

                              Maria, your right. Some people can't handle the truth........

                              • 2 votes
                              #6.9 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                              My question is , Who is the party of "No" from 2000 to 2012? Looking at the history time-line it appears Republicans have had many more party -line votes in both the Branches of Congress, used more filibusters than any time in our history, and the Republican Pres. has vetoed more legislation (11)during a Congress with a majority of Democrats, and used only one veto when the Congress was a Republican majority, and the one veto of a appropriation bill was overturned by a majority vote of both Republicans and Dems........... Gee, I answered my own question,,,,,,,,fancy that, pat on the back to myself.......Thanks me,,,,,,,,LOL.

                              • 1 vote
                              #6.10 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:52 PM EDT
                              Reply

                              Maybe obummer can get a bailout from GM. Wait doesn't solyndra have a few bucks to spare???

                              • 8 votes
                              #7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:10 PM EDT

                              Actually Bush was the one that bailed out GM. It was one of the final things he did as President.

                              Of course, you don't remember that. It was 3.5 years ago after all...

                              • 12 votes
                              #7.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                              what does Bush have to do with my statement??? I was implying the unions that obummer supports can return the favor.

                              • 6 votes
                              #7.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:16 PM EDT

                              Bush who? Talk to Wasserman, the head of the DNC, Obama owns this economy since 2010....right around his 1st "Summer of Recovery".

                              • 8 votes
                              #7.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                              Damn shame the republicans will spend all that money just to see Romney go down in flames, but that is the way it will be.

                              • 10 votes
                              #7.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                              Down in flames like Scott Walker

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:38 PM EDT

                              One word.........WISCONSIN!!!!!

                              • 6 votes
                              #7.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:41 PM EDT

                              Does it really matter which candidate has more money to out lie the other?

                              • 1 vote
                              #7.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                              So you're saying there will be a tie... the Wisconsin Worm was saved but neutered as he lost control of the senate..

                              • 5 votes
                              #7.8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

                              @Desperation2012#7.6: How about 2 words? John Doe!!!

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                              Funny, I didn't hear the Democrats complaining in 2008 when they had MORE money?!?!? What goes around comes around........ It is the MESSAGE that is most important and Obama no longer has a message - he has a record. And the people are making it quite clear they don't like the record. So contributions drop way down.

                              BTW, how is that whole "Hopey Changey" thing working out for you now??

                              • 5 votes
                              #7.10 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:53 PM EDT

                              Right ninja the unions came out the best didn't they??? A tie it was not the unions got BUSTED

                              • 1 vote
                              #7.11 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

                              BTW, how is that whole "Hopey Changey" thing working out for you now??

                              A heck of a lot better than that pro-business bullcrap being tossed around. When was the last time business did anything to help move the economy along?

                              • 5 votes
                              #7.12 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:05 PM EDT

                              car556 - what ninja meant - and anyone knowledgeable about politics would know - is that Walker was neutered because the WI senate went under the control of the Democrats. Therefore, Walker was neutered!

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.13 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                              Seeking Sanity

                              I wonder how car556 will feel when that cross eyed badger Scott Walker is indicted for his John Doe.


                              Romney may regret photo-op with Walker in Janesville visit with future John Doe indictment pending

                              Then there's that FCC violation.

                              I can't wait to see those Fake J-O-B-S numbers WALKER put up. June 28th can't get here soon enough. Soon Walker will be a discredited Tinfoil hat conspiracy buffoon and Koched Up lying idiot

                              Tick, tick, tock.

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.14 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:40 PM EDT

                              SS, The Wisconsin senate is recess until the Novemner elections so there is nothing to nueter. Nice try.

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.15 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

                              Desperation....... Hot as hell here in Deeeetroit. Im fast on the track of that Union flunkie GOPmaskboi! bev's been going off all day about her vagina......of as she calls it her pu pu pu....err cat! See that left horn......up there! Right up GOP's Buuuuuuu....Anus!

                              • 3 votes
                              #7.16 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:54 PM EDT

                              Rocco - Walker cannot get many things approved until the senate signs off on them so, now or November, he's neutered! You really don't have a clue, do you????

                              • 3 votes
                              #7.17 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:18 PM EDT

                              jollyoldsoul1

                              Desperation....... Hot as hell here in Deeeetroit. Im fast on the track of that Union flunkie GOPmaskboi! bev's been going off all day about her vagina......of as she calls it her pu pu pu....err cat! See that left horn......up there! Right up GOP's Buuuuuuu....Anus!

                              I belive if I did do that; that horn would now be coming out you throat. You are one sick woman. That was another thread. You got so exicted you had to bring over here.

                              What kind of bytche are you anyhow??

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.18 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:29 PM EDT

                              What kind of bytche are you anyhow??

                              A fat f@ck who has been married a half dozen times & he couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it!

                              See his Viet Nam tales for evidence!

                              He likes to troll around her getting his jollies since Match.com kicked his nasty ass to the curb!

                              • 6 votes
                              #7.19 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:42 PM EDT

                              Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

                              A fat f@ck who has been married a half dozen times & he couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it!

                              See his Viet Nam tales for evidence!

                              He likes to troll around her getting his jollies since Match.com kicked his nasty ass to the curb!

                              Still, I don't believe it's a man.

                              • 4 votes
                              #7.20 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:30 PM EDT

                              Still, I don't believe it's a man.

                              Trust me GF - it is!

                              I'll send you a pic of him - just make sure you haven't eaten before viewing! ;o)

                              Fat man wouldn't be able to get lucky in a whorehouse with a fist full of hundreds!

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.21 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:52 PM EDT

                              Beverly in Chicago(no surprise here) and Fiesty Redhead: You'll both be the reason for the ratings drop of MSNBC. Your posts have nothing to do with the subject article. I guess you're trying desperately to bring down MSNBC, good job.

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.22 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:26 AM EDT

                              Carr, "Right ninja the unions came out the best didn't they??? A tie it was not the unions got BUSTED", finally a true statement from a Republican. The Bill was to bust the unions, that was a goal set by the Walker agenda. Now who will they come for next?

                              • 2 votes
                              #7.23 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:42 AM EDT

                              Bob-1920561 - my guess is "they'll" come for Walker. Can you say John Doe?

                              • 1 vote
                              #7.24 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:40 AM EDT
                              Reply

                              "Fresh off a major donation to the pro-Mitt Romney super PAC, Nevada billionaire and major Republican donor Sheldon Adelson is expected to continue his support for some other GOP causes and may donate as much as $100 million this campaign cycle, a source with knowledge of his donations told CNN."

                              - CNN - June 18th, 2012

                              The Obama Campaign spent $745M in 2008. Here's one guy who potentially is going to donate $100M on his own in support of Mitt Romney...and isn't this the same Sheldon Adelson who paid for Winning Our Future PAC's ad "The King of Bain" that ripped Mitt Romney apart for "vulture capitalism"?

                              • 16 votes
                              Reply#8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:11 PM EDT

                              Something is truly wrong with this country if it takes a minimum of 73 million to be elected president...

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:12 PM EDT

                              Just remember that these tycoon billionaires cannot actually buy your votes. They are pushing for Romney to benefit themselves, and they will spend hundreds of millions of their own money. But on election day, they can't force you to vote for Romney.

                              Middle class Americans need to ask: Why would billionaires want to support Romney? And why do they oppose Obama? I doubt the answer is that they care about average Americans.

                              • 8 votes
                              #9.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                              TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS!

                              • 5 votes
                              #9.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                              not all the money allow a EQUAL amount for ALL parties with limits. Term limits for all members of congress. Supreme court will have a limit for time on the bench also.

                              • 3 votes
                              #9.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:07 PM EDT

                              Clotho - the rich sent $2 to Obama for every $1 McCain got in 2008. In 2000 & 2004 the bulk of the corporate money went to Bush.

                              There are a certain number of rich that contribute will contribute only to the Democrats or only to Republicans. The rest contribute money to support the candidate they think will handle the economy better. 2000 & 2004 that was Bush. 2008 that was Obama. 2012 appears to be Romney at this point.

                                #9.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:27 PM EDT

                                Either way we end up with some career politician (and you think they get to the top through honesty and integrity?)....Any way you want to cut it; the fact the these folks boast about the millions they rake in for dog and pony shows while a large number of Americans are financially struggling and looking for work should let you know the real content of their characters. It's disgusting really, and how anybody can back these folks is beyond my comprehension. A REAL LEADER would take that kind of money and use it to help their countries citizens, not caring if they are re-elected, because they would actually be too busy doing their JOB.

                                  #9.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:47 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  In 2008, Obama outspent McCain by a 4-to-1 margin from Sept. 1 through Nov. 24, FEC records showed. Not even counting the hundreds of millions from the unions...

                                  On a level playing field, Obama will lose.

                                  • 10 votes
                                  Reply#10 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:13 PM EDT

                                  But how much have you spent on that toupee?

                                  • 11 votes
                                  #10.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:14 PM EDT

                                  That is neither hair nor there...

                                  • 12 votes
                                  #10.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                  Today's Bloomberg poll has Obama up by 13%. Obama 53%, Romney 40%.

                                  Yes, the election is not based on the popular vote. Still, that must set Republican teeth a-gnashing. A shocking 39% of Americans view Romney favorably. He can't win with those numbers.

                                  http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-20/obama-leads-in-poll-as-voters-view-romney-as-out-of-touch.html

                                  • 8 votes
                                  #10.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                                  That is neither hair nor there...

                                  OMG - Bob cracked a truly funny joke : ) I'm still laughing!!

                                  • 7 votes
                                  #10.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                                  Me too RedDev. That was a funny one,....I don't care which side of the fence yer' on,.... that was a hoot!

                                  LOL

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #10.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:19 PM EDT
                                  Reply

                                  Wow what a war chest for both candidates. I do not believe in the final analysis Big Money for Mitt will give him a victory it actually hurts his chances. What would give him an edge would be straight clear talk without dodging or hesitation. No one other than solid republicans will vote for someone who refuses to get specific about anything that makes a difference.

                                  • 12 votes
                                  Reply#11 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

                                  Well, Mitt Romney was able to destroy Gingrich by carpet bombing during the primaries with negative advertising, but I think you are right, it will be harder to hurt President Obama, especially considering how ineffective the ads are I've seen so far. I mean, what mother doesn't secretly wish her adult children would never leave home, especially the happy, and helpful ones in Karl Rove's recent ad?

                                  I mean really, where are the wolves?

                                  • 14 votes
                                  #11.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

                                  Amy - and let's remember, Obama will use the Gingrich and Santorum anti Romney talking points against the GOP's "fearless leader"!

                                  • 12 votes
                                  #11.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                                  Ads?

                                  No ladies the economy is doing him him.

                                  Oh, and don't forget Holder's little issues o' the day.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #11.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                  SeekingSanity

                                  Good to see you back home. I made a mistake last time . The Gay Parade is this Sunday.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  #11.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                                  oh, goodie

                                    #11.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:12 PM EDT

                                    Beverly - ah ha! Let's talk - always a fun event for everyone!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #11.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:21 PM EDT

                                    SeekingSanity

                                    Beverly - ah ha! Let's talk - always a fun event for everyone!

                                    Okay, either we'll e-mail each other or we'll call each other. I'm bad with e-mails. We should call each other or text each other.

                                    We have to leave early. Last year traffic was so heavy I could not get ther due to the detours. I love going on Diversity and Pine Grove, Sheridan etc. since the Parade ends there and goes into the park.

                                    Also, the bars are there too. Uh la la la!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #11.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:52 PM EDT

                                    It sure is great to see the "motherhood of the liberal vagina" all singing Kumbaya. When things get bad.... dress up in funny clothes and dance around the maypole. If Mr. Obama died of natural causes you guys would crop him like a scarecrow and still try to elect him. Hell you might even be able to convince Mrs. Obama to stay with him.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #11.8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:05 PM EDT

                                    jollyoldsoul1 - we don't dress up - we just enjoy the parade. It's always fun unless you're a homophobic old man. You really have issues don't you - but, wait - that's a requirement for being a Republican, right? My bad!

                                    And, the Obama comment, he'd still have more life than Romney!

                                    Obama/Biden 2012

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #11.9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:21 PM EDT

                                    jollyoldsoul1 - we don't dress up - we just enjoy the parade. It's always fun unless you're a homophobic old man.

                                    Man??? I always thoght that "B" was a woman. Whatever s/he is it certainly is getting aroused. Maybe h/she needs to come out the closet.

                                    For the record thing, I'm neither gay or homophobic. I were gay I'd have no problem admitting it; jolly.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #11.10 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:35 PM EDT

                                    Beverly - same here. I DO have several gay friends and I'd choose them any day over Jolly. They're a hoot to be around!

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #11.11 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                                    SeekingSanity

                                    Beverly - same here. I DO have several gay friends and I'd choose them any day over Jolly. They're a hoot to be around!

                                    That's why the parade means so much to me. My friends will be there; we always met @ that same corner. We have had so much fun thru out the years. One died of AIDS 5 years ago; but his spirit is still with us. Usually, there's this pastor with a loud speaker standing on a ladder condemning the LBGT community. One time he told a guy in the parade you're going get it in the end; you're going to hell. The gay guy pulled his pants down and mooned him. It was hilarious.

                                    I'm sure if we get together we'll have so much fun.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #11.12 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:44 PM EDT

                                    Hey what about me? Harumpfff! lol

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #11.13 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:53 PM EDT

                                    Feisty - of course you too!

                                    Beverly - sorry about your friend. So far I haven't lost any but almost all of my gay friends have - of course. It's so sad.

                                    We'll definitely have fun.

                                    Will call either tonight or tomorrow! Plus, you have my number - don't hesitate to call - both of you!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #11.14 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:37 PM EDT
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                                    BS.. between all of the Super Pacs, the DNC and Obama's own campaign stash the liberal left has got Romneyy beat 10:1. Additionally, obama has no campaign costs other than advertising. All of his travel, meals and logistics are paid for by the taxpayer. Romney has to pay for everything.

                                    Not to mention, obama has a six year head start on campaigning over Romney who just got into the game.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    Reply#12 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:21 PM EDT

                                    Dishonorable discharge alert!

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #12.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                                    Are you serious? Mitt Romney, by his own account, has been running for President for about 10 years now.

                                    • 13 votes
                                    #12.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                                    upset - and hasn't won once! We'll make it another defeat in November!

                                    • 10 votes
                                    #12.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                                    proud american veteran

                                    BS.. between all of the Super Pacs, the DNC and Obama's own campaign stash the liberal left has got Romney beat 10:1. Additionally, Obama has no campaign costs other than advertising. All of his travel, meals and logistics are paid for by the taxpayer. Romney has to pay for everything.

                                    Not to mention, Obama has a six year head start on campaigning over Romney who just got into the game.

                                    ====================================================

                                    LOL, you couldn't be serious?

                                    Romney has been campaigning for the last 8 years. Futhermore, the bus Willard the "MYTH" will traveling on the Secret Service bus; now that his cross tour bus flop has ended.

                                    Willard the "MYTH" should really pay for everything. That's the least he can do to give back to America since he pays very few taxes.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #12.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                    Republican vets crack me up. Sucking off of the government tit and complaining about it at the same time. It kinda reminds me of the old farts wanting to keep the government out of their medicare, and congessmen that tell you how bad government is while they get paid for life off of tax dollars.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #12.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:49 PM EDT

                                    Proud.... I have to get to work so just a quick rebuttal. Mr. Romney has been campaigning for president since he was governor of MA. He has been laying the goundwork since then.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #12.6 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:19 AM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Mitt Romney is a disgrace. Nobody likes him.

                                    If he wins, he'll be the first to literally buy the presidency. And we'll all pay the price.

                                    • 15 votes
                                    Reply#13 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                                    Romney/Rubio 2012!

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #13.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:28 PM EDT

                                    Anybody/Anybody 2012!!!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #13.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                    Yeah Romney 2012! He does not even know how to make up the 5 trillion his tax cuts will cause! And he supports cutting taxes on the successful job creators and raising them on all those lazy poor people who just suck money from the government 24/7 while spending their welfare on drugs.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #13.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                                    Please write a big fat check to Obama today.....you will feel better in the morning!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #13.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:39 PM EDT

                                    Romney and Obama can @!$%# off for all I care :) Both of them are just backed and controlled by the 1%.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #13.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                                    @Desperation2012 #13.4: I did. Didn't have to wait until morning. Feel better already.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #13.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:58 PM EDT

                                    Anybody but Obama/Anybody but Biden 2012

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #13.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:16 PM EDT

                                    We like him.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #13.8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

                                    Apparently you forgot how much Hussein spent to win in 2008.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #13.9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:50 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    We need big money out of our political system. Super Pacs, and 501C4's are bull@!$%#. Big money is what keeps this retarded two party system alive. Take big money out and we could see some true political competition that is not backed by the 1%

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#14 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:23 PM EDT

                                    Funny, I never heard any liberals complain about the 100's of millions the unions have "donated" to Democrats from their hardworking members, half of which are Republicans. I do find it amusing to hear "Team Obama" whining that they might be outspent when they were the one's who outspent their opponent by a 4 to 1 margin in the last election.

                                    • 6 votes
                                    Reply#15 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                                    Republicans have no problem with lobbyists, unless they are lobbying for teachers, firefighters and cops.

                                    • 12 votes
                                    #15.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                                    Ummmm, Amy - Obama's cabinet has how many lobbyists?

                                    Come on you know, we have already covered this.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #15.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:48 PM EDT

                                    easy on Amy, shes a rare bird..... In Maine outside of Portland they call people like her "game" Above Bangor they dont even understand her.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #15.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    How could the guy who bragged that he was going to raise a BILLION dollars to get re-elected be out-spent? More to the point - when your message and performance is worth less than $.02 why do you need to spend a billion dollars to tell American citizens that which is obvious?

                                    • 6 votes
                                    Reply#16 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:24 PM EDT

                                    Right on, Rick! They WERE bragging about raising a billion dollars...but now that's not going to happen. So instead of admitting that their message is crap, they do what they've always done...demonize success: first, successful (profitable) business; now, successful fund-raising!!!!

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #16.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:36 PM EDT

                                    jwilson: to quote a not so famous Republican "you lie." Check the news. Obama never bragged, nor did his campaign ever claim that he would raise $1 billion. If anything, it was a stalking horse created by Rove to get the GOP contributors to open the vaults.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #16.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:51 PM EDT

                                    Good 'ole Karl Rove. He's back. 2001-2009 wasn't bad enough for Republicans. They want more.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #16.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:16 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    How much in dollars is it worth to have a TV cable network pumping out your campaign propganda 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?

                                    MSNBC's contributions to the Obama campaign ought to be included....

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#17 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:25 PM EDT

                                    The MSNBC ads from Maddow, Schultz, Mitchell, Odeonnell, Matthews, Sharpton..........SAVES him MILLIONS!

                                    DISGUSTING (and creepy)!

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #17.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                                    ^ hahaha... said the foxbot

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #17.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:31 PM EDT

                                    How much in dollars is it worth to have a TV cable network pumping out your campaign propganda 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?

                                    Not as much as you've spent on Rogaine.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #17.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                    It is amazing that even with the liberal media's free infomercials. Many people arent going to make the same mistake they made in '08....

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #17.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                    I have my own stalker obsessed with my hair, how quaint...

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #17.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:35 PM EDT

                                    I have my own stalker obsessed with my hair, how quaint...

                                    Not much to be obsessed with, unfortunately.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #17.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:45 PM EDT

                                    Bob -

                                    How much in dollars is it worth to have a TV cable network pumping out your campaign propganda 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?

                                    I don't know, ask Fox "News" - they have been running 24/7 anti-Obama propoganda for over four years now. That doesn't even include the radio side of things with Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity (who are both on Clear Channel radio, owned by Bain Capital......)

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #17.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                                    Well, Ruken.....maybe you can make a deal....you dont mention Bob's hair or lack of(who am I to say anything Look at my avatar) and perhaps he wont mention your 4 shot run at a GED.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #17.8 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:52 PM EDT

                                    UAW, with all the conservative a/k/a "lying" media, President Obama is still going to win. Money can't buy Romney R.E.S.P.E.C.T.

                                    No one in the GOP is respected in this country. Or around the world.

                                    That's what Karl Rove did.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #17.9 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:14 PM EDT

                                    Pat Boston MA. when, as a party, you have to stoop to use the likes of Karl Rove you know you've hit bottom. That's all the GOP is - bottom feeders!

                                    Obama/Biden 2012

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #17.10 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:39 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    "Top Obama campaign officials today said they would be outspent by Mitt Romney and allies, especially when you include all the various outside groups."

                                    -----------------------------------------

                                    GOOD, Mr. Hollywood! 160 fundraisers which is more than the past 5 Presidents have had!

                                    Selfish Rock Star Narcissist!

                                    The FAKE First Lady spent about 6 months bragging that she buys J-Crew.....and the past 4 yrs. buying DESIGNER Gowns for everything!!!!

                                    Really loved the STAGED shoopping trip to Target!

                                    Yeah, we're Stupid!

                                    • 8 votes
                                    Reply#18 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:26 PM EDT

                                    Patty - actually - you are!

                                    • 8 votes
                                    #18.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                                    Assuming that he has had more fundraisers, he has to and is that really something we want our president to need to do? To keep pace with the likes of Rove, the Kochs and the US Chamber who are spending everyday raising campaign funds and running ads to oppose him. And remember, Romney has been running for president since 2007. He admits that is his only job. So he as all the free time in world to do nothing but raise campaign funds. It would be nice if the president could just be president, but that would be foolish when everyone else is spending all their time to defeat you. And I know there is this aura surrounding Hollywood, but people like De Niro, Baldwin and Spielberg don't have anywhere near the kind of money that the Kochs have.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #18.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:37 PM EDT

                                    Patty-Virginia Beach

                                    Selfish Rock Star Narcissist!

                                    The FAKE First Lady spent about 6 months bragging that she buys J-Crew.....and the past 4 yrs. buying DESIGNER Gowns for everything!!!!

                                    Really loved the STAGED shopping trip to Target!

                                    Yeah, we're Stupid!

                                    I have to agree with Seeking Sanity; you are Waaaaaaaay too STUPID.

                                    The First Lady came from the South side of Chicago's Woodlawn neighborhood. Google it so you can learn something. She worked very hard to get where she is.

                                    At least First Lady Michelle Obama knows the difference between Target and very exclusive stores like Alfred Fiandaca Couture. Mention the word Target and Ann Romney would think it's a gun range.

                                    First Lady Michelle drew over 2800 people to attend her early AM campaign event. Ann Romney can hardly fill a restaurant. When the Romneys do come out they are booed.

                                    SEE for yourself. The First Lady's crowd of 28,000.

                                    FYI First Lady also out funds Mittens and his fake wife.... you're worse than the "Furious Five"(exclude the Democrat) on Fox Noise who replaced that idiot Glenn Beck and get paid to sit around a table and conjure up lying, BullSh!t.

                                    https://twitter.com/utaustinliberal/statuses/215536118324670464

                                    How about that ballet practice on the tax pYERS?

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #18.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:13 PM EDT

                                    Beverly - how embarrassing for Romney - Michelle Obama draws a bigger crowd than he can ever hope to draw!~

                                    Obama/Biden 2012

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #18.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:45 PM EDT

                                    Bev, the horse was a "business" deduction, even though it is for Princess Anne's personal enjoyment.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #18.5 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:12 PM EDT

                                    SeekingSanity

                                    Beverly - how embarrassing for Romney - Michelle Obama draws a bigger crowd than he can ever hope to draw!~

                                    Everything about the Romneys is embarrassing.

                                    4 ward for 44

                                    Obama/Biden 2012

                                    Fired UP; Ready to go

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #18.6 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:58 PM EDT

                                    Pat Boston MA.

                                    Bev, the horse was a "business" deduction, even though it is for Princess Anne's personal enjoyment

                                    That's why we don't need the Romneys in the White House for their pleasures.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #18.7 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:02 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! How can you be more vague than "Hope and Change"? I think alot of people see the direction this country has taken since '08 and are willing to invest thier money into a candidate who can restore our greatness. Let's vote for change in 2012!

                                    • 12 votes
                                    Reply#19 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:30 PM EDT

                                    REALLY..........

                                    Those $40,000.00 dinners "totally" relate to the middle class.......which is more than we make in a YEAR!!!!

                                    • 9 votes
                                    #19.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:32 PM EDT

                                    Patty, Don't let them convince you that you are poor because someone else is rich. America has more than enough room for everyone who wants to better themselves. Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for yourself. While Obama's policies and rhetoric try and convince you different. The truth is even the most lucrative government sponsored social programs payout many times less than poverty. Don't vote for that! VOTE FOR CHANGE IN 2012!

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #19.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:42 PM EDT

                                    I hope we have some change in November. Barry said he should be kicked out if he couldn't fix it in 3.5 years, so we should give him his wish. Maybe he can find another block to organize after he goes back to Chicago in January. Maybe he could organize the South Side so they can kill 3 or 400 in a weekend instead of 7 to 10 people. Talk about a "shovel-ready" job; he could shovel as much as he wants to there.

                                    I just love all the whining and crying from the liberal socialists now that the messiah is starting to sweat his campaign. If he ever decides to quit running in place, someone please let me know. I need another good belly laugh.

                                    Romney/? 2012

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #19.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:47 PM EDT

                                    UAW, we applaud the rich here in America. What we don't applaud is them screwing everybody else. That's something Rove needs you on board for. To applaud it.

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #19.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:10 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Glad I got rid of the TV years ago. I don't have to watch those ads. lol

                                    I lost all hope for the future. No matter who gets in. The future doesn't look bright.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#20 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:33 PM EDT

                                    Between the Supreme Court extremists (corporations are people & money is speech, hahaha) and the oligarchs (including Romney & the 1%ers), Democracy doesn't stand a chance. Keep your power dry because we're on the path to another civil war.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    Reply#21 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:40 PM EDT

                                    anddon'tcallmeShirley - the only idiot is the person who doesn't think those illegal immigrants were already working here. And, the idiot is the person who didn't have a problem with them until Obama. You DO know they were here during Bush, right - this isn't a new issue. And, you DO know President Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other President, right?

                                    And, you DO realize that now, instead of being paid under the table, they will be paid AND PAY TAXES, right idiot?

                                    We've wised up since President Obama was elected. We see what a good President he is IN SPITE of the stupidity of the far right!

                                    Obama/Biden 2012 (maybe YOU should wise up!)

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #21.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:43 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    So the AG has been voted for Content, My husband just called me and gave me the news. I have to say that it has not been confirmed by me or MSN yet.

                                    Oh by the way, my hubby is a Democrat and has been for 20 years and he is not voting for President Obama.

                                    So don't count on all the register Dems to vote for Pres Obama.

                                    • 8 votes
                                    Reply#22 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:43 PM EDT

                                    My husband*

                                    Damn he has some low standards.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #22.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:46 PM EDT

                                    Concerned Citizen - and not all of the Republicans will be voting for Romney - most wouldn't pull the lever for Romney no matter what.

                                    And, no the AG has NOT been voted in Contempt (correct term). The House is deciding - but since it is GOP controlled it will not be surprising if they do.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #22.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:52 PM EDT

                                    Sorry Kuken and good try but no reply from me on my husband. Do you have one?

                                    Insanity, I stand corrected, us independent/black/latin/woman are not liberals, therefore we do not know anything. Forgive me Maaaster!

                                    I had lots of fun today, and I will see you folks tomorrow. This has been a great week so far.

                                    Romney/and anybody for 2012. Let's correc the error made in 2008!!!!!

                                    • 6 votes
                                    #22.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:02 PM EDT

                                    Do you have one?

                                    Do I have what? "Someone that toils endlessly to financially support my dumb ass?"

                                    Am I supposed to be like, in envy of that or something?

                                    • 3 votes
                                    #22.4 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:20 PM EDT
                                    Reply

                                    Speaking of garbage, where is Feisty and her usual first-place load of garbage? Or has Obama's impending loss made her drown herself in the koolaid pitcher? Actually, I kind of miss the old broad. I haven't had my usual 15 or 20 belly laughs per day for several days now.

                                    • 5 votes
                                    Reply#23 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:50 PM EDT

                                    Bob in KC - we'll be celebrating Obama's win in November while you try to drown your tears.

                                    Feisty has posted several times today - reading comprehension not your strong suit is it?

                                    Obama/Biden 2012

                                    • 5 votes
                                    #23.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:54 PM EDT

                                    Bob, glad Romney has your support. We don't want you in our party. We don't seek out the ignorant. That's Rove's department. You fit the bill.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #23.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:08 PM EDT
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                                    Why does Obama have to spend a cent running for re-election? We all know who he is, we know what his record is. You either like him or you don't. Will spending a billion dollars on ads change your mind? So why is he worried? Could it be he knows running on his record is a losing proposition????

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                                    Reply#24 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:01 PM EDT

                                    Obama needs the money to counteract the GOP lies, and the fact that they didn't lift a finger to help the American people. Did you see what our Congress did today instead of working to help our country?

                                    Are you okay with that?

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                                    #24.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:06 PM EDT

                                    anddon't.....yet he's still not as incompetent as the idiot the GOP is running for President or the idiot the GOP had as our last President! Actually, President Obama is heads above anyone the GOP has for any office!

                                      #24.3 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:45 PM EDT
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                                      The Obama campaign may be OUTSPENT by the exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH campaign but exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH WILL BE OUT ELECTED by the 99% American People! They DON'T LIKE him, they DON'T WANT him and they sure as hell DON'T NEED him or any more of the corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY political puppets! The 99% American People's SLAVERY is coming to an ABRUPT END!!

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                                      Reply#25 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:03 PM EDT

                                      TR Rose II - and outclasses by a mile. Romney is just an empty suit - yet he's the BEST the GOP has - pretty sad isn't it????

                                      The house did vote to hold Holder in contempt - right along party lines. Not surprising - the GOP is grasping at anything they can to deflect from Romney!

                                      Obama/Biden 2012

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                                      #25.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

                                      The trouble with republicons is that they dont realize that the party is OVER. Corporations can no longer RAID the pockets of the middle class. There IS no middle class after the ponzi scheme Ronald Reagon and his anti-Christ sidekick--Alan Greenspan brought down on our heads. SUPPLY side economics...otherwise known as VOO-DOO economics. Stockholders loved it...they shared in the spoils from the raid on the middle class.

                                      What the CONS are scheming to do now is to squeeze out every last drop from the government...by denying benefits to all the workers who paid in the taxes and continue to make the middle class pay for it all.

                                      Like Mitt Romney...they are the corporate raiding party. In every raid, there has to be a target. The middle class is done except for the vote and they are working hard to take that away.

                                      What shareholders must realize is that the party is OVER. No more fast profits. No more plunder. The damage has been done. Ponzi schemes do not last.

                                      When you listen to republicons, you are hearing the words of a corporate raider at the head of a corporate party. Once they are elected...they TELL YOU how its going to be. They dont ask for opinions. And they will grant no favors to the middle class.

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                                      #25.2 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:46 PM EDT

                                      Holder's office lied in correspondence to a US Senator.

                                      Now he refuses to answer questions.

                                      "If I can't lie, I'm not going to talk"

                                      People died, Holder lied!

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                                      #25.3 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:22 AM EDT

                                      Pat Boston Your comment about Condi not doing her job kinda makes you a racist since anyone who disagrees with the President's policies is called one.

                                      As far as being outspent, if the President is not raising enough money, maybe his message is bad. And if the President gets a billion from all those donors then I guess he has been bought and paid for since the majority of liberals seem to think that money buys elections.

                                      Fast and Furious Don't care who is in power, Questions need to be answered for the Terry family and I find it funny that the President who said he learned about the op on tv, is now exerting executive privilege.

                                      Either he knew or he didn't and he should be the one demanding answers as this happened on his watch. Guess he was sleeping when that 3 am call came and missed it. The President can't stop intelligence leaks from his own administration and they are compromising National Security yet doesn't want documents from fast and furious turned over to Congress. Wonder what he is hiding. So much transparency.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #25.4 - Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:12 AM EDT

                                      SeekingSanity you better keep searching buddy.. Ron Paul 2012

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                                      #25.5 - Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:07 AM EDT
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                                      How did President Obama get elected in 2008 anyway? He had a lot of luck to get elected the first time considering he was so secretive about his positions and his past. He was literally a nobody before rising out of nowhere to beat Hilary Clinton in the primaries. It will be the will of Allah if he gets elected again.

                                        Reply#26 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:06 PM EDT

                                        "Secretive about his past"? Gawd. I have heard every nauseating detail about his childhood, and so many friends that I can't imagine he has had ten minutes of privacy. There are girls talking about sleeping with him on the first date. We never, ever, knew that much about any president in my memory.

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                                        #26.1 - Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:30 PM EDT
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