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ORLANDO, Fla. -- Doubling down on his controversial effort to purge non-United States citizens from voter rolls, Florida Gov. Rick Scott dismissed criticism by civil rights advocates Tuesday, saying the state has a “very good process to make sure that U.S. citizens have the right to vote.”
That right is at the crux of a debate here over Scott’s initiative, which has spurred lawsuits by civil rights groups and a suit by the Department of Justice – which says the purge violates the 1965 Voting Rights Act.
Most Florida counties have backed out of Scott’s directive but two counties have continued to accept it, according to media reports. There, U.S. citizens removed from voter rolls will be given a 60-day period to respond, and after that will be able to vote using a provisional ballot.
“Your vote’s always going to count,” Scott said, saying that he speaks from experience.
Scott revealed during a radio interview last week that he voted by provisional ballot during two elections in 2006 because an election worker in Naples confused him for a man who had died.
“They just said I got to vote on a provisional ballot,” Scott told reporters Tuesday. “The nice thing about our state – when something like that happens, we have a good process. So my vote still counted.”
But just how much a provisional ballot counts is debated by voters’ rights groups, which point out that provisional ballots aren’t counted until after Election Day.
(Scott’s story, ostensibly meant to show that the system works, also seemed to suggest just how easily a registered voter can be thrown from the rolls.)
The remarks Tuesday came during a brief discussion with reporters after Scott addressed a lunch meeting of the Board of Governors, the body overseeing Florida’s university system.
The meeting had drama of its own, as the board votes later this week on tuition hikes.
Scott opposes the increases and is pushing for a review of the university budgets.
While university budgets have put the governor at odds with his state’s university system, the voter purge has created friction with the federal government.
Florida has filed its own suit against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, saying the department refused to share a database containing immigration information.
Scott says the state was forced to rely on a motor vehicle database instead, which critics say has outdated and bad information.
Still, the governor's aides believe the project is necessary and has proved successful.
Reached by phone, Lane Wright, the governor's spokesman, said the Florida DMV identified 180,000 people as potential non-citizens. A "small sample" -- 2,600 names -- was selected for verification.
Of that number, at least 107 people have come forward to say they are not U.S. citizens, Wright said, adding that half had already voted in a prior election.
Asked Tuesday what he’d say to a woman in Central Florida whose eligibility was challenged even though she had a voting record dating back to Eisenhower’s 1956 re-election run, Scott shifted the blame to the federal government.
"What I'd say is she should be disappointed that the Department of Homeland Security didn't do their job," Scott said.
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The DHS under Obama will always be a joke ....
It looks like the DMV is doing a better job than the DHS under Obama .... "LOL"
That's a good one .... "LOL"
But it figures ....
Obama has to go ASAP ....
Or sooner than that .... "LOL"
Puleeze. Florida will always be a joke if they don't clean up their act.
Does this idiot really want to brag about his record with a 31% approval rating...
Apparently... so...
WTF - were the voters of FL thinking when they elected a freakin convicted FELON?
Probably the same the voters in East St Louis Illinois did when, when they reelected a mayor who had been convicted of and served time for VOTER FRAUD.
Hey Feisty - how's Quinn and your huge deficit doing?
Ilinois is awesome and BROKE.
What up with that?
Feisty,
Rick Scott is not a well man. Not all the chairs are under the table.
Ah, looky here - Bachouse fancies herself a doctor now.
But Obama, the voracious gum chewer, looks fantastic, right?
Nicorrette?
Ill has a good track record with Governors Lately, so how can she insult Florida voters?
When was Gov. Rick Scott convicted of ANY felonies? I am very curious...please advise!!
This from an informed Floridian on here a couple of days ago:
"Rick Scott is probably one of the most corrupt individuals ever to buy an election. It is our misfortune here to have to endure his term for 2 more years.
He is a classic example of being elected, despite having admitted to 14 counts of Medicare fraud and was fined $600 million dollars for his role as CEO @ Columbia Health Care Systems...."
Rick Scott stole billions from Medicare as the CEO of Columbia/HCA and Solantic. Rick Scott, while paying $300 PER YEAR for his health insurance (less than most pay per month), wanted to increase health insurance premiums for FL state workers.
Rick Scott is a lying, thieving hypocrite.
Backhouse
actually, Rick Scott never admitted to any wrong doing. His Board of Director's did. "Til this day, Scott claims he did nothing wrong so he was either an extremely incompetent CEO and did not know about the fact that his company had two accounting books: one for Medicare, and one for the company or he is a thief, a fraud, and a liar.
When he became the CEO of Solantic - company he cofounded, "surprisingly" the same thing happened. Solantic allegedly billed for services the physicians weren't present to provide. I have to say allegedly because Solantic had settled improper billing lawsuits with physicians that feature non-disclosure agreements that hamper independent investigation into these claims.
Coincidence?????
there is not one health care company in America that has not been fined for over-billing; they even teach the billing departments how to change the code, in order to get more money from Government coffers; something to think about if Obama care is not found un-constitutional, we will all be at the tender mercy of the giant insurance company's, who will have the ability to take the money they say you owe, right out of any Bank account, social security or retirement check; scary situation.
Wait a minute- the 1965 Civil Rights Act guarantees the rights of non-citizens to vote?!?!?
Of course it does not. Nor is it the right of someone deceased to vote.
As for those who gripe aboutrovisional ballots- if, for any reason, you are not allowed to vote at your precinct, you can fill out a provisional ballot which WILL be counted if you were entitled to vote. It counts no more, nor less, than a regularly cast ballot.
Seems to me that the people fighting this know just whose "rights" they are protecting- it is not legitimate voters.
Busted 53.5 fraudulent voters out of a sample of 206k. So we got a .026% fraud rate or a 99.74% accuracy rate. Question is were the bogus voters part of a block or were they random and cancel each other out? .026% probably will not swing an election, but what level of accuracy is acceptable? 99.99%, 99.995%, 101%?
The reality is there is no accuracy goal. The voting rolls purge is part of a national GOP agenda kicked off in early 2011 to enhance GOP prospects. Perry made this a priority in a TX special session. The puppet masters jiggle the strings and the foot solders flood the blogs.
Spending taxpayer money to score political points. Business as usual.
@No Blow Wait a minute- the 1965 Civil Rights Act guarantees the rights of non-citizens to vote?!?!?
Of course it does not. Nor is it the right of someone deceased to vote.
Hey Skid-Mark- You know this has nothing to do with illegals voting as well as I do. Anyone that can use a little common sense and critical thought can see that this whole voter fraud thing is completely bogus. Its just an attempt to keep certain types of voters away from the poles....
I'd put that bald headed POS in jail if he doesn't comply
Obama/Biden 2012
Its just an attempt to keep certain types of voters away from the poles...
Why are you lefties so insulting to minorities? Why do think minorities are incapable of or to stupid to open their wallet and pull out an ID?
bigbenalaska
WTF are you blabbering about?
Why are you lefties so insulting to minorities? Why do think minorities are incapable of or to stupid to open their wallet and pull out an ID?
Hey Rab -
Its not mainly minorities. Its mostly seniors who are getting screwed on this....
Quit your whining ....
You know that even the seniors are voting Romney ....
Obama's poll numbers are severely in the dumps and have been for weeks now ....
Obama's getting the boot ....
Too bad o requires ID for his own events, as does Holder to get into any court.
More libbie meme fail.
You all got anything?
You know that even the seniors are voting Romney ....
Bigben - Good point! Even Romney voters are getting screwed over by this bull@!$%# that Scott is trying to pull..
Obama/Biden 2012
So you think it's OK to vote in a presidential election without any status type verification ....
How would you verify voters eligibility .... ??
While the media was going Ga-Ga over Mitt Romney's fascination with WAWA, they missed the huge lie he was using his experience to illustrate. Mitt told he story of a eye doctor who moved and needed to fill out Medicaid forms so he could be paid at his new location. Mitt said the doctor received a thirty three page form to get the change made.I found out that the form is really two pages long. Somewhere in trying to count from one to two Mitt got thirty three. With Medicaid fraud as high as it is no doctor should complain about a two page form that ensures that he is correct recipient of the money he earned. If ths is the doctor's major problem his patients migt be better off if WAWA starts selling glasses and puts him out of business, or if Mitt is his only client. Even with bifocals Mitt will not see the truth.
Frank.... have you ever filled out Federal forms? Taxes maybe? A 1040 is only a two page document.. how long are the instructions? It's a booklet of instructions. So, yes, that two page form could in fact have been a 33 page package.
bigben
Haven't you voted lately? Poll workers verify your identity in a number of ways...depending on the state you're in. For example, in WV, you state your name, they look it up in the polls, then ask you to sign for the ballot, then they compare that signature with the one in the polls. If poll workers are doing their job, there's no fraud of this type.
In fact, the excuse of voter fraud is specious. Even SCOTUS didn't try to make the excuse that IDs were needed because of voter fraud because there simply is not compelling evidence. They merely upheld Indiana's voter ID law because it appeared to prevent voter fraud and therefore reassured voters about the integrity of the process. So of course, we have republican-controlled states who find no problem with making it more difficult for the poor (disproportionately minority) and elderly to vote just to prevent phantom voter fraud. And the numbers are significant, Texas admitted that about 5% of registered voters did not have the necessary ID to vote according to their new law...and that is why the DOJ is suing them.
I think it is terrible that Rick Scott is trying to disenfranchise dead people. It is probably because dead voters tend to vote Democrat.
Shhhhh ACLU is listening.
Mr Obama would like the dead to vote so he'll have another group to pander to.
After all, leave no headstone unturned.
Of course, the Liberal/Statists, in all their sound and fury, can't seem to remember that what Governor Scott is doing, is a FEDERAL requirement. Darn those pesky fact thingys.
Yes, Mike...darn those pesky facts...like the time limit to purging polls before an election. Which passed for Florida and makes the purges illegal.
I guess, according to liberals, there should never be a purge of voter rolls no matter what or when. Just keep the same names forever. If they can vote on a provisional ballot what is the problem. We have to have a uniform voting law, because why should some states get to ask for pictured IDs and other states don't? The left always plays the race card, it's as if minorities are to stupid to have or to obtain a proper picture ID. Give me a damn break, most states will issue the ID card free if the person can't afford to pay for one.
Dead People and illegals cant vote if required to show an ID.
each state has the responsibility to govern how the voting laws are to be not the feds. this is in line with the constitution which this Fourth Reich Obama administration has been violating since day one.
government shall have limited power and the power be passed down to the individual states and its people- this is to include health care, voting, education etc.
the federal government has been taking the power away from the states which is a direct violation of the constitution.
I think it is terrible that Rick Scott is trying to disenfranchise dead people. It is probably because dead voters tend to vote Democrat.
Kannin - Most "dead people" voting fraud is done by machine tampering, not by individuals using dead people's Id's.
You sound like an expert on that subject ....
You must be an Obama supporter .... "LOL"
We don't need State issued I.D. New York. But I never here about voter fraud. The state who now require certain people to have Goverment I.D. .They can't tell you the last voter fraud case. This is don't to keep certain people from voting. ONE vote is just ONE vote !! You can't vote twice .
With a current President that depends on the illegal vote Thumbs Up to a Governor trying to stop the illegal voters.
Kind of like in Illinois where Daley, when he controlled Chicago politics in Cook Co., was always the last to submit the voter tally. His first question was always how many votes do you need? and lo and behold a few more than necessary would be counted.
Funny how that worked then.
The 1965 Civil Rights Act, Section 5 requires a pre-clearance by the courts for any attempt to change ANY voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure with respect to voting for any designated State. Florida is one of those designated States as is Virginia, Mississippi, etc. Florida did not follow legally required processes prior to the purge but rather made the decision to knowingly use a flawed database in order to "clean up" its voter rolls. The usage of this flawed database, less than 90 days in advance of primaries which is by itslef illegal, has been shown to have potentially directly and negatively impact the legal voting rights of US citizens by improperly declaring them non-citizens. It has been shown that the population targeted for validation are those with "foreign names." Florida then chooses (in mid June, 2012) to sue the US based on the failure of DHS to provide access to a database for an action that has not yet been cleared by the courts. What else needs to be shown?
Matthew, you're absolutely right. However, this crowd doesn't want any actual facts; they just want to make sure the white allright (with a few Cubans for flavor) and Republicans get to vote in this election. You know, like the time Janet Reno was running for governor in a primary, and polls were closed three hours early 'against the governor's pleading phone calls' (wink wink).
We should have some UN observers for this one.
Matthew, Yes we all know about the civil rights act and the voting rights act. They are obsolete and should never have been extended. But idiots in Congress keep extending these antiquated laws because it is easier than fighting it out in Congress to do away with them. How much longer are we going to play the race card just to satisfy politicians and their so called "constituents"? The voting rights laws were needed, but have outlived their purpose. Sooner or later people have to learn to quit relying on the Government and do things for themselves. How hard is it to get a ID card, especially when one has known for months that they needed one and if they could not afford it, the state would issue one free.
BTW, Matthew, the law suit that Holder is filing has nothing to do with the voting rights act, but is being filed as a violation of the Voter Registration Law, which states you can purge voter rolls 90 days or less before a primary or general election.
sfcret - even if I agree that civil rights acts and voting rights acts are obsolete (and I do not) they are still the law. The National Voters Registration Act was and is being violated. And since registration and inclusion on the voter list (which is what is being negatively impacted) is a "prerequisite to voting" they are clearly violating civil rights too. Why else do you think that so many election officials in Florida are refusing to cooperate? They know the process is flawed and illegal.
sfcret
The "race card" gets played because racism is alive and well in this country. If you believe otherwise you either lack information and empathy (and I don't mean sympathy) or you're just a racist looking to deflect. And don't kid yourself, the Voters Rights Act is still needed to compel jurisdictions to do the right thing because racial gerrymandering and vote dilution STILL occur.
Re voting: in general, it's just harder for poor people (most of whom work) and the elderly to vote. These people already live marginal lives, why would we want to make it harder for them to vote? To make you feel better about non-existent voter fraud? If you were so concerned about voter fraud, why not look at absentee voting where the greatest potential for fraud exists?
This has been in the works since last year. Do a google search on Florida Voter Purge and set a limit from 1/1/2011 to 12/31/2011. You will find a lot of hits back to early last year. How is that not more than 90 days prior to the election? Ninety days prior to the election (November 6, 2012) is August 8, 2012. This is not advance math.
Because the action to IMPLEMENT the process was not started until April 2012, less than 90 days before the primary. The National Voters Registration Act refers to (sic) "actions taken." Example - you can have a car in a garage for years, but until you start it up, it's not running.
As a "former" dimocrat, we had a list in each precinct of the dead and the moveouts who were still on voter roles. We made sure they were voted! They were our most reliable Dimocrat voters:) THis was back in the 70's before Jimmy Carter moved me into the Right light. I am sure that the same crap goes on today. The Dims will do ANYTHING to WIN-they have no moral compass. Rick Scott understands this and at least is trying to stop it. Give him credit for attempting to clean up the crooked mess. It is a shame that Obama does not want to assist Florida in cleaning up its voter role of foreign voters and illegals. But I am sure that foreign voters, illegals, and convicted felons will break hard for the Prez.
Where was Rick's moral compass when he was committing Medicare fraud? Or pushing for a drug-testing provision for state aid receipients that ended up costing the state more money while providing a windfall of income for his wife's company? Yeah ... I thought so.
Every Republican governor should purge the roles in their states for the 2-014 elections. Congress if conservatives capture the Senate, should remove the The National Voters Registration Act lst act of business.
Yeah right "a former Democrat."
And yep, the only way you conservative buttheads are going to hold on to power in the coming decades is by denying as many progressives as possible the right to vote. Guess you just want to go back to the days when darkies and women couldn't vote hunh?
No Republican has respect for any person of color who is an authority position. Eric Holder is the Attorney General of the U.S. and this voter purge falls under his jurisdiction. But Eric only sees, well this is coming from a black man...I don't have to stop. I will sue! It is clear to me that Rick Scott is not doing this because of voter fraud. There is no voter fraud. 500 million ballots cast across the country...346 counts of voter fraud! That is about .00005%. And many of those counts were multiple counts from elected officials and the people under them committing voter fraud and not from private citizens. You would have a better chance of getting struck by lightning while giving birth to twins than seeing voter fraud in this country. No, this voter purge is to ensure PEOPLE OF COLOR WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE! Because it's not just getting I.D.'s that is really not the problem, the problem are the letters are being sent out to folks who are citizens that state they have 48 hours to comply by sending or faxing I.D. photos or birth certificates and social security numbers.
The Republican party is taking us back to the 19th century...that is what conservative means now...19th century life - which is white males are completely dominant, women are nothing short of a body used for pleasure, Hispanics should go back to Mexico and Blacks are not American Citizens because they are property. How many times have you heard Barack Obama is not, in his heart, an American? The Divisive congress, the anti-immigrant speeches all of it is consistent with mid 19th century politics. ALL OF IT. The Right Wing movement comes directly from ideology consistent with the No Nothing Party, the Free Soilers and the Pro Slavery advocates of the 19th century. All the rhetoric is virtually the same. Don't believe me...Do some research. Read about the No Nothing Party, about the Dred Scott rulings and the arguments presented during that ruling. Just do some research and you will see that the rhetoric today is the same as back then, just watered down and harder to detect.
Yep that Eric Holder is a class act! LOL
Hey Prag:) Do you remember in history when Washington DC prevented white Southern males from voting? It was called "Reconstruction". A very dark time for our nation. Washington DC forcing Southern States to allow felons, illegals, foreign nationals, dead folks, and moveouts to remain on our roles is tyranny from the Federal Government.
No Republican has respect for any person of color who is an authority position. Eric Holder is the Attorney General of the U.S. and this voter purge falls under his jurisdiction. But Eric only sees, well this is coming from a black man...I don't have to stop. I will sue! It is clear to me that Rick Scott is not doing this because of voter fraud. There is no voter fraud. 500 million ballots cast across the country...346 counts of voter fraud! That is about .00005%. And many of those counts were multiple counts from elected officials and the people under them committing voter fraud and not from private citizens. You would have a better chance of getting struck by lightning while giving birth to twins than seeing voter fraud in this country. No, this voter purge is to ensure PEOPLE OF COLOR WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE! Because it's not just getting I.D.'s that is really not the problem, the problem are the letters are being sent out to folks who are citizens that state they have 48 hours to comply by sending or faxing I.D. photos or birth certificates and social security numbers.
The Republican party is taking us back to the 19th century...that is what conservative means now...19th century life - which is white males are completely dominant, women are nothing short of a body used for pleasure, Hispanics should go back to Mexico and Blacks are not American Citizens because they are property. How many times have you heard Barack Obama is not, in his heart, an American? The Divisive congress, the anti-immigrant speeches all of it is consistent with mid 19th century politics. ALL OF IT. The Right Wing movement comes directly from ideology consistent with the No Nothing Party, the Free Soilers and the Pro Slavery advocates of the 19th century. All the rhetoric is virtually the same. Don't believe me...Do some research. Read about the No Nothing Party, about the Dred Scott rulings and the arguments presented during that ruling. Just do some research and you will see that the rhetoric today is the same as back then, just watered down and harder to detect.
Misleading through statistics.... Your claim that there were only "346 counts of voter fraud" is utterly bogus. Voter fraud can't be detected if you have no controls in place to validate who are valid voters and who aren't. And that's exactly why democraps don't want any sort of validation. If it were there, the vote packing would be obvious. Nice try though...
Oh, and Abe Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN. Those pro slavery types were democrats. What history book are you reading anyway? You're so uninformed, yet so sure of yourself that it's almost delusional.
And WTF makes you think that validating voters has ANYTHING to do with race?
It has NOTHING to do with race; just to do with voter fraud and the ones who scream the loudest are the ones interested in committing voter fraud i.e. dimocrats!
THe ones who complain about purging the bogus from the voter roles are ALWAYS the Dims as they are the only ones interested in voting the dead, the felons, the illegals, and the moveouts-folks that no longer reside in the voting district but are still on the roles. Voter picture ID is a BITCH now ain't it!
1. Where in my statement did I compare the republican party of now to the republican party of the mid 19th century smart guy? You tell me where? You are not thinking and not reading. Not one time in my statement did I compare the republican party of today to the republican party of the 19th century!!! And not once did I mention President Lincoln?!? What are you stupid? READ WHAT I WROTE AGAIN! I said they are taking us back to 19th Century Life. I then compared them to factions in that time whose rhetoric was similar. Read what I wrote again smart guy. See, this is what I mean...you just do not make any damn sense.
2. There is no voter fraud! From the numbers that are available. And the reason they're aren't complete specifics on the number of voter fraud cases is because they could literally only find several hundred cases among the millions upon millions of votes cast.
3. Among the voter fraud cases, most were done by actual officials who were trying to suppress or steal votes, not by private citizens.
4. Most of Florida's voter suppression is done in minority districts with a high probability of Democratic Voting.
5. And most of the lists that Rick Scott compiled, according to the League of Women Voters, are flawed up to 50%! On one purger roll they had 2500 names and 500 were American Citizens and had the right to vote. Another 1000 or were either accused of having felonies but did not or accused of being Hispanic and born somewhere else?!? Of these some were woman who were born American Citizens since birth but married someone of Spanish Decent. I mean it was so completely stupid...
6. It is absolutely Bogus! And I am not a Democrat. I am someone who looks for common sense in legislation. And the fact is. No one had a problem voting at all until the Republicans did the same thing in 2000 to steal an election. The Republicans, who have nothing in the form of ideas or intelligence have know decided that the Bush experiment will work nationwide and that is what they are doing.
7. And yes sir, it is about race...and it always will be.
Scott, another BIG TIME corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY "HAND-PICKED" political puppet trying to disrupt voting rights!!
99% American People, vote 100% STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC, the lives you save WILL be YOURS & your CHILDREN! Let's rid our selves of this corruption that has MADE SLAVES OF US!!
TR you have been heating those koolaid crystals in the spoon again and injecting your arm with the fluid.
Romney will provide a koolaid 1/2 way house once in office for folks like you=the 99% you talk about:)
What people don't understand is that the Republican Elite planned all of this in 2009. There were 19 Republican Debates with all the candidates except one, Ron Paul, (whom I would consider voting for) saying the same things...we need low taxes on the rich and reduce government and Obama is the devil.
Why so many debates saying the same exact thing? It's called propaganda. They simply keep repeating the same things so you will believe them.
Example: We had much higher taxes during the Clinton years...and things were AWWWWESSOME! Admit it Right Winger, you know they were awesome. All Obama wants to do is get tax rates back to that era but for only two groups (the income elite and corporations) But I bet you didnt know that did you Right Wingnut?
See, they realize that most who hate Obama will not do any kind of research form an independent source because you are actually looking for a reason to hate him without giving away that him being black kind of gets under your skin. Hey, it's okay...I understand, I do. It's a human thing. You are used to reading in history books how Whites basically dominated American society since the 18th century so, it's kind of weird for you to see a guy whose Ancestry used to be considered PROPERTY by congress less than 200 years ago, now become president. You will simply go to Fox News or Hannity and increase the hate on your own. No fact checking needed! "HE'S BLACK! AND THAT CAN'T BE GOOD!" LOL
The Republicans know they can control you Right Winger, because you do not want to educate yourselves. It's the reason why one of the biggest cuts they will make is to Education Grants and Loans...as long as you know nothing, they can fill in that void of knowledge for you. And as long as your kids can't go to school, they can control you for a generation. That's strange because most of the Republican base is also middle class and many of you have kids and they are looking to sharply cut your kids ability to go to school...but you know what, white guys in congress know best, right? So why would you all care? You'll just have less savings and income but whatever...Obama is not American and the Devil, right? Hey, trust me...seeing a Black president was surreal for me too.
At any rate, Republicans all know you are looking for a reason to hate the socialist evil black guy, with a Harvard degree, that plays too much golf and likes sports and has a knack for getting woman to like him...all the things white guys fear...lol. You know its true.
As I said, the more uninformed and uneducated you are the more you can be controlled. Most Right Wingnuts, most of you have no idea what happens if the Romney wins. See, you think they care about the America that Obama is fighting for, but they do not. They do not care about you Middle Class Right Wingnut. You will go down with the 97% ship just like the rest of us. I mean if you just look and see what is going on, it's easy, Right?
Give you an example...and just be honest with yourself about what I am going to say...
See, no one who supports the right actually knows whats in Obamacare. You ask them and they do not know. What they know is if it has Obama's name on it, they hate it...it's a job killer and people are scared of it. Well, these same people don't even know why they are scared of it - Well, you're scared for two reasons:
1. The Republicans keep telling you to be scared
2. You haven't done any real research to see if it really is that bad (And trust me the Republican Elite knows, you are too stupid to do any research)
What is really strange is Marco Rubio and Scott Walker (two guys who have said they have done the research) both said they would keep two of the most important components of Obamacare:
1. The covering of Preexisting conditions
2. The Keeping of kids on the insurance until Age 26
What most of you Republicans don't know is, to keep those two things you HAVE to keep a third component of Obamacare or none of it will work. And it is the part that Romney and someone from M.I.T came up with to make universal healthcare succeed. Do you know what that is?
YUP you guessed it --- THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE!!!
Yes, that dirty word that Republicans have convinced all of you is so bad!!!
Without the individual mandate, Universal Healthcare, in any form will NEVER WORK. The pool of recipients has to be flattened out...you can't have just all sick people with healthcare because then, the premiums they pay will not match the cost of the procedures they get. So, there has to be those folks who simply need a preventative check up every 6 months or health screening or the servicing of minor ailments to also buy in...that is what makes Obamacare so effective and keeps costs for everyone, even hospitals down.
Last thing...according to the CBO (Congressional Budget Office), The amount of people who have to get health care from their employer will go down by the millions...saving the small business lots and lots of money.
I am going to tell you flat out what they are going to do...they are going to go to a voucher program that affords you 8000 (single person) a year for medical expenses. It will decrease the debt but you know 8000 won't cover squat if you have a serious issue. The program does not take into account any corporate insurance activity at all. They will be able to do anything they want to do...more than likely, most insurance companies will move to the state with the least restrictions and sell you private insurance on their terms.
Doesn't that sound familiar?
Finally, after 2 years of that, they will implement a better solution...it will be called Romneycare...it will be the exact same as Obamacare. And of course Right Winger you'll love it because the Black guy didn't do it!
And of course Right Winger you'll love it because the Black guy didn't do it!
Little david-you are a white apologist and a race baiter.