Hey Congressman Schweikert, why don't you Republicans work on the jobs bill? Or perhaps name a new building.

Regarding Red-Dev's post

Is there a group out there that the Repubes haven't attacked yet? I've tried counting them, but I ran out of fingers.....

Obama/Biden 2012

Regarding Red-Dev's post

Oh, You forgot one: Seniors

The latest Gallup poll (June 7-10) indicates 68% are in favor of immigration reform, this was even before the President's announcement

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Is anyone surprised that it was someone from AZ that is trying to reverse laws that would give certain Hispanic people a chance for a better life in the U.S.?

DUHhhhhh???? Just what exactly would a Republican Congress had our President sought help from Tea Baggers; besides Noooooooooooo? It's nice to see the Baggers finally stop called the President's Actions "AN EXECUTIVE ORDER" . Now if only the media could folow suit, that would reporting the truth.

Add the LA Times to your list of Tea Baggers

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-immigration-20120617,0,1331564.story

Immigration by Executive Order

..and the San Diego Tribune had this to say

Before reaching the White House, Barack Obama voiced similar concerns. He even signed a pledge that emphasized the limits on executive authority: We are Americans, and in our America we do not torture, we do not imprison people without charge or legal remedy, we do not tap peoples phones and emails without court order, and above all we do not give any president unchecked power.

But this is not remotely how Obama has governed. His administration unilaterally rewrote the immense, complex No Child Left Behind education law landmark legislation crafted after a year of bipartisan wrangling between President Bush and Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass. The administration also asserts authority to kill suspected terrorists anywhere, including American citizens, without anything resembling legitimate due process. And now it asserts authority to unilaterally rewrite U.S. immigration policy even though just last year, the president said it was just not true that he could make sweeping changes without congressional approval.

I guess in anybody's language this is a flip-flop, but just like the ACA if the end justifies the means.

Gingerbread Mamma

Glad to see you're back

I t does not matter because illegals cannot vote for the President. Why do you think OBama wants to give them amnesty????? Get a grip and listen!!!!!

Dummy took the bait. They were already looking the other way as long as the children were not involved in any criminal activities. If no country will take these children, then you cannot deport them nor can you keep them locked up indefinitely, so what do you do with them? You help them to get legal residential status. Btw: for all you ignorant people out there, residential status does not give you the right to vote, but it sure has hell give these children the right to die for this country if they chose to go into the military. The GOP only go after the Hispanic population that does not have any issues with getting legal immigration status, like the Cubans who just have to make it to dry land and the Puerto Ricans, who are a commonwealth of the US. Those two group has a totally different migration experience, so they will not connect with all Hispanics like the GOP think they will.

does not matter because illegals cannot vote for the President. Why do you think OBama wants to give them amnesty????? Get a grip and listen!!!!!

Well, it's a lot easier to get a grip if you aren't filled with racist hate, which I'm not. So I have no problem with treating children like human beings. You clearly do.

This president is above the law.

ILLEGAL Immigration is a problem that must be dealt with and step one is to stop the flow. Then we can decide what to do with the 12 million or so that currently defy our laws.

Since they are ILLEGAL they are breaking more than one law, TAX EVASION, ID THEFT, DRIVERS LICENSES etc just to scratch the surface.

Think of the adverse effect on low skilled labor of which America already produces too much on her own,

Not that big of an effect.

I have a grove. Pomegranates and Figs (i'm biblical in my hobbies).

I can't get anyone but latino's to help me pick in late summer. Weekends, weekdays, doesn't matter. I offer 15$/hour out of my pocket.

Alabama has already cited their impending food shortage, and even their 'red-blood 'Merican 'Publican Farmers' have begin asking their state legislature to back off the anti-immigration policies.

This is where reality meets ideaology. And ideaology doesn't feed you.

Nice move, genius, since 65% of the population support the move; way to be on the wrong side of an issue again, Repugs! I can't wait until after November when President Obama has been reelected and the Democrats control BOTH the House and the Senate! Then we can get past this tea insanity and back to fixing the problems of this nation! (Which the Repugs caused in the first place!)

Oh, You forgot one: Seniors

@GT - I had a hard time with that one. I think they like seniors, they just hate the senior life-lines of Medicare and Social Security. Similar to the issue of women, they like them as long as they have complete control over their vagina's, or vajayjay, or whatever we are suppose to call it today to avoid offending their delicate sensibilities in Republi-lala-land.

congressman offers bill to reverse Obama immigration move

Was it written in crayon?

@reddevps - actually, they like it when the seniors get all riled up about "them gays" or "the OWS hippies," but they moth ball them for everything else. Look for some GOP messaging about how Obama wants to kill all the old people (so vote for Mittens Rmoney) in the coming months, then they'll moth ball them again.

I wonder how Rep. Schweikert, as well as the chorus of angry Cons on the web, will reconcile their claims that the president "sought to circumvent Congress" by granting wavers to immigration law with their candidates promise that if elected he will BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, grant wavers to the health care law.....

Seems like selective outrage to me.......

Red Devil...

It is the democrats that hate social security and the people on it

It was the democrats that filled the trust fund with IOU's and spent the money (Johnson)

It was the democrats that decided to tax social security even though it was taxed when earned (Clinton)

It is Obama that went three years without a social security raise (democrat)

It is Obama that threatened in August 2011 to withhold social security checks until debt limit increased

Tell us now just what offenses do Republicans commit against social security and it's recipients?

Someone should file a lawsuit in Federal Court to block Obama's 'Executive Order'.

Since when is a President legally authorized to pick and choose which laws will be obeyed and which will be ignored?

Another day of NO HONOR shown by republicans. Sure is adding up. I'd be ashamed to call myself one. lol

ROY Romney has promised to by executive order, eliminate the ACA......strangely none of you CONs have an issue with a GOP president picking and choosing which laws to follow......

Jahmekan " for all you ignorant people out there, residential status does not give you the right to vote, but it sure has hell give these children the right to die for this country if they chose to go into the military."

I think it's called 'Resident status', not residential status.

Illegal immigrants who serve in our military have had the possibility to be come citizens for some time now - that is nothing new. And no administration (Republican or Democrat) in the last 30 years has targeted the children who grew up here.

Obama is bragging about a new 'policy' that has already been in effect for a long time - with the exception of giving them work visas - which he is not legally authorized to do. A simple lawsuit filed in Federal Court could block that as a violation of existing immigration law.

Greasemonkey-2406068 "ROY Romney has promised to by executive order, eliminate the ACA."

ACA is written so vaguely that it allows the Administration to set or change policies - that doesn't require an 'Executive Order'. Besides, the Supreme Court will soon decide that issue - likely within a week or so.

When did the Military allow Illegal Aliens to enlist??

Roy...The ACA in no way imparts the power to eliminate the law to the president......There is no difference in Obama's order on immigration and Romney's promise to eliminate ACA by executive order......you just cant spin this any other way.....

"Instead of working with Congress to secure our border and reform our immigration policy, Obama sought to circumvent Congress once again," Schweikert said in a statement. "This thinly veiled political ploy is detrimental to Americans and while President Obama asks the Department of Homeland Security to 'look the other way' on immigration policy, I ask him to respect the rule of law."

Oh shut up. Obama tried a partial-reform of immigration by trying to pass the Dream Act. It didn't get passed. And if the Republicans want to "respect the rule of law," shouldn't they be held accountable for supporting torture of prisoners of war (which is against the Geneva Convention), starting illegal wars without even taking the advice of the United Nations, and disrupting the legislative process in the Senate??? You wanna play the law card??? Take account of your own misdeeds.

old fat guy-1144960

This president is above the law.

Got a bit of proof, eh???

ILLEGAL Immigration is a problem that must be dealt with and step one is to stop the flow. Then we can decide what to do with the 12 million or so that currently defy our laws.

First of all, the flow has already been stopped. Net migration rates to across the border has hit roughly zero; essentially, as many illegals that enter the country are leaving. Secondly, a large part of those 12 million are children who were forced by their parents to cross and whose home is technically the United States.

Since they are ILLEGAL they are breaking more than one law, TAX EVASION, ID THEFT, DRIVERS LICENSES etc just to scratch the surface.

Actually, most illegals pay taxes, like sales tax and the payroll tax. In fact, illegal immigrants subsidize Social Security because they pay the taxes but don't get any benefits. Chances are, tax dollars from an illegal are gonna find their way into your SS check; don't like it??? Give it back.

Think of the adverse effect on low skilled labor of which America already produces too much on her own,

Actually, in Alabama corps are rotting in the fields and businesses all over the country are barely finding enough employees thanks to tighter restrictions. Let's face it; Americans, even the unemployed and low-skilled workers are unwilling to work in the fields or in other sectors that pay a few dollars an hour. Not to mention the fact that those jobs, like farming, are excruciating and hard, making it even more uninviting.

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Red Devil...

It is the democrats that hate social security and the people on it

If Democrats hated Social Security and the people on it, then why didn't we ever try to change it??? We even created the damn program!!!

It was the democrats that filled the trust fund with IOU's and spent the money (Johnson)

As did Nixon and Reagan....

It was the democrats that decided to tax social security even though it was taxed when earned (Clinton)

Clinton merely raised the payroll tax to help pay for outlays.

It is Obama that went three years without a social security raise (democrat)

By that I assume that you mean tax increase, right??? If not, then shouldn't you conservatives be cheering that he didn't raise taxes???

It is Obama that threatened in August 2011 to withhold social security checks until debt limit increased

Actually, Obama said that Social Security checks might not be delivered if the debt ceiling wasn't increased.

Tell us now just what offenses do Republicans commit against social security and it's recipients?

Well, Bush tried to privatize it, for one thing. The GOP also are weakening it by advocating the ending of estate taxes and by reducing the payroll cap, hampering the program's stream of revenues.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

Freshieee...

WOW do you need help.

Obama went three years with no raise in social security benefits until this election year that is. I said nothing about taxes which he reduced by the way to hasten it's demise.

Clinton with Al Gore casting the tie breaking vote began taxation of social security benefits. Remember your social security contributions have already been taxed when earned.

No matter what you do to enhance the revenue stream short of 100%taxation there will be a deficit.

There are legal ways for Alabama farmers to get help legally. They should have to operate their businesses legally like the rest of America. What makes them special?

Maybe you liberals should read the constitution so you will understand the roles and responsibility of each of the branches of the Federal Government. The Legislative Branch, Congress, passes the laws. The Judicial Branch, Supreme Court and Federal Judges, enforce the laws. The Executive Branch, President and agencies/ departments, ensures the laws are carried out. What part of President Obama saying that we will not carry out constitutional immigration laws is following his oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States"? If a Democrat controlled Congress passed a law and it was signed by a Democrat President and a Republican President said he was not going to enforce that law, you liberals would have an absolute fit and call for his impeachment. President Obama has done that multiple times.

It is the democrats that hate social security and the people on it

@OldFatMan - We can thank the democrats for blocking every effort Republicans have made to privatize/eliminate Social Security. That was one of the subjects discussed in the Cantor/Ryan/McCarthy book "Young Guns". Now personally, I don't spend time reading Bromance Novellas, where our heroes gaze longingly into each other's eyes, arms intertwined, acknowledging the 'forbidden love - the love that dare not speak its name' they share, that of ending social security. But if you are into that kind of thing, the link below provides a brief synopsis of the book.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/08/31/house-gop-trio-pens-road-map-for-governing/

For my liberal/progressive friends, this article is a great 'brush up' read on the agenda to destroy Social Security by the Republican party.

http://www.democraticwhip.gov/content/real-republican-agenda-ready-turn-over-middle-class-retirement-security-whims-wall-street

Unlike the current POTUS, the Republicans are trying to restrain the unconstitutional immigration changes and not trying to fish for Hispanic votes.

There are legal ways for Alabama farmers to get help legally.

@OldFatGuy - What ways are those? If American citizens will not work for the pay offered, what other recourse do the farmers have get the crops picked? Are you suggesting they hold the local citizens at gun point and force them to pick the crops?

I know of no one getting rich on social security. I do however know several that have gotten rich by investing on a regular basis.

Privatizing social security has some merits worth considering but probably too difficult for democrats to comprehend

old fat guy

Sooo...you think Paul Ryans plan to use vouchers instead of paying Social Security payments is the way to GO The GOP has tried to do away with SS And Medicare for years. Romney said he "favors" the Ryan bill..

BTW. The Repubs. were at the helm when 911 took place, then they started an illegal war in Iraq. Then they gave HUGE tax cuts to the wealthy And big Company's..under the guise it would help the JOB creators.

We all can see how That worked out. OH but they did give help to the seniors (with-out paying for it) with the closing of some of the donut hole. (all this helped create the mess the WORLD is in today.)

And you want a Republican Pres,?? you are pitiful! I was one up until Bush did all that he did to the people of this Once great country. Mitt would just be a replay of Bush.

Red Devil...

No I would not suggest such a thing but maybe migrant workers perhaps through the state agriculture dept.

Not sure about Alabama but I know Arkansas has migrant worker camps run by the government

Praysalot...

Years ago a guy named Bush came to town as the dot com bubble and cell phone recession slowed the economy and 9/11 happened that really devastated the economy.

This guy called Bush did things to save the economy and the media and democrats could not stand his success and convinced America to give them a democrat house and senate in 2006 while unemployment was at 5.3%.

Ain't been that low since which causes this guy named Bush to ask:

MISS ME YET ?

If you can't find Americans to work for $15.00 an hour, how about reforming welfare so that able bodied deadbeats who have made a career out of welfare have to go out and make a living. Why should they do any work, when the government will steal money from somebody else and give it to them? Better yet, exchange a deadbeat on welfare, or somebody collecting workers comp for an injury that doesn't exist, for a hard working immigrant! I'm all for helping those in need, but the social safety net is being ripped apart by the scum who don't want to work.

@Freshieee

Actually, most illegals pay taxes, like sales tax and the payroll tax.

How exactly do illegals pay payroll tax if they haven't already stolen a social security number? If so then they are guilty of identity theft.

BILL A Democratic congress DID pass a law......and the Democratic President DID sign the law......and the current GOP Presidential nominee DID promise not to enforce the law if he was elected.......

Strange, When Romney promises to eliminate ACA by executive order on his first day in office, none of you CONs complain at all......Seems more than a little Hypocritical.....

Democrats who believe that it is all right for a president to issue an executive order to break the law of the land is living in a dream world where there is no right or wrong. It is wrong to break the law. Don't like the law then change it, but to ignore the law and break the law is actually a crime for which the President should be punished. You obviously have forgotten the Oath of Office the President takes where he is supposed to preserve , protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. By issuing executive orders that ignore the law as enacted by Congress, he breaks his oath of office and is thereby fit only for removal from office. It doesn't matter which president does this, if it is the law of the land, he must support it. Obama said as much when he ran for office the first time. Now he has changed his tune. So, he lied then and he is still a liar.

No one seems to mention that if congress did their job and passed a comprehensive immigration bill, or even the DREAM act, the President wouldn't have had to resort to an executive order.

And I notice the critics who whine about how unprecedented it is for a President to say he is not going to enforce parts of a law, seem to have forgotten that George Bush often attached executive orders to bills that he signed saying he was not going to enforce parts of the law he just signed! Seems like a double standard to me.

And I notice the critics who whine about how unprecedented it is for a President to say he is not going to enforce parts of a law, seem to have forgotten that George Bush often attached executive orders to bills that he signed saying he was not going to enforce parts of the law he just signed! Seems like a double standard to me.

So youre saying Bush put that stipulation into the proposals, or did he just ignore active law and change laws however he please for votes?

Heartlight - There are already immigration laws in effect. Just because some people want to modify them "comprehensively" or that some people want to pass the DREAM Act doesn't mean that the POTUS should arbitrarily instruct law enforcement to ignore the existing laws. It is not Congress's job to do your bidding.

Bush had an immigration reform plan and his party refused to even support that. The only reason Bush had any success was the few successful bills he could pass using the democrats. All the republican supported bills is what got us into this mess in the first place and now this wacko party is keeping our economy hostage to their war on pu-tang. Immigration was a joke under the republicans now that some action has been happening the last 40 months there ire is up and once again they go into this trumped up outrage to help weaken our economy once again. Anything to avoid working for the american people.

Bill, you got 2 out of 3 right. The judicial branch in fact interprets the law and the executive branch enforces the law. Your post suggests that both the judicial branch and the executive branch enforce the law.

And everyone seems to have forgotten that the constitution itself doesn't allow the supreme court to strike down laws.

That, instead, was decided in Marbury vs. Madison(1803) and was made by Judicial Precedent.

ILLEGAL Immigration is a problem that must be dealt with and step one is to stop the flow.

There is no "flow" in the president's plan. These people are already here ~ brought by their parents, raised in this country, educated in our schools, and many have served in the armed forces of the US. This is the only country they have ever known. If there was serious concern in congress about immigration, it would have been dealt with already. But there is no such concern ~ its a toy to be played with in the political bloodsport just as is abortion, gay marriage, "family" values, etc. The moment the election is over, you will have heard the last on these matters until the next election nears ~ ~ ~ ~ this its a front burner issue again. Notice that jobs, economy, and national debt ~ those burning issues which consumed our minds just a few months ago ~ are moved into second place among Washington politicians and their lackeys as we "struggle" with immigration, gays, contraception, same sex marriage, abortion, etc. Next week it will be something new. Got a flash for you ~ the voters are still focused on economy, jobs, and deficits. Have fun.

Bitch, bitch, bitch, that is all republican politicians are good at.

There is no difference in Obama's order on immigration and Romney's promise to eliminate ACA by executive order......you just cant spin this any other way.....

There is a major difference -- mainly that Romney can't do what he's promising ... a law can't be eliminated by executive order. Obama didn't eliminate or change any laws. He simply exercised the discretion and authority that the law granted him.

Barry Romney is proposing to offer wavers to allow noncompliance with the law....no difference at all....

This is really a matter for the courts. The constitution says that it is the congress that makes the laws, not the President. Some time ago the President himself said that he would be in violation of the constitution and his oath of office if he took action like this. Let us take the President at his word. All hail the Chief!

Let's see...68% favor immigration reform. That DOESN'T mean that 68% favor giving away 800,000 free rides regardless of the reason. That means that voters want REAL immigration reform including dealing with our border problems. I have no problems with my black and Hispanic neighbors: they are here legally and work hard. What I, and the rest of the 68%, have a problem with is a vote-buying measure that does NOT promote immigration reform.

Obama needs to quit trying all these end runs around the whole Congress (House and Senate both) and start trying to work and play well with others to accomplish his objectives. Instead, he has totally polarized our formerly strong country with political tricks, rhetoric, and threats. I personally commend the Congressman for trying prevent yet another abuse of our Constitution.

Come on, Obama, you get an F for playing and working well with others.

It is really embarrassing to see the media not questioning the president on this matter. First, he is refusing to enforce the laws of the land, second he is completely dodging the issue of immigration by not coming up with a comprehensive and much needed plan, and third, he is basically telling Hispanics that you either vote for me or I deport your family.

And even worse the media then has the nerve to say Romney is avoiding the immigration issue because he actually wants to create a full scale immigration policy, something everyone agrees we need.

I know liberals love talking about helping people and keeping everyone happy but even they have to admit we have a massive immigration problem in this country and allowing illegals to stay is not the solution even on the heart string cases...solve the problem and quit using band-aids for open heart surgery.

Rep. David Schweikert (R-AZ) is just one of those rabid,radical, extremist republicans, who use their low information followers, to manipulate their thinking into believing they are good Christians, working in their best interest by lying to them, and convincing them, that they too can become very wealthy, if they will just work hard for minimum wage and let the wealthy corporations and big bankers avoid paying taxes, so they can create jobs. They fail to tell them, those jobs are slave labor in China and/or bank clerks to count their money in off shore banks ie: Grand Cayman Island, Switzerland etc. Republicans have gone totally crazy and only crazies will vote republican.

sboon398

It is really embarrassing to see the media not questioning the president on this matter. First, he is refusing to enforce the laws of the land, second he is completely dodging the issue of immigration by not coming up with a comprehensive and much needed plan, and third, he is basically telling Hispanics that you either vote for me or I deport your family.

Obama DID have a partial plan for immigration reform-the Dream Act. Unfortunately, that didn't pass. You wanna get things done in Washington???? Use executive orders. If you don't, then don't do anything. But don't bitch about the president not being able to do anything and then bash him when he does in the only way possible: executive orders. Btw, there WAS a comprehensive plan forwarded by Ted Kennedy and McCain, but it failed in the Senate in 2007. And if we cannot get a deal on how to basically balance our budget, how the hell do you expect us to reform a complex immigration system???? And by the way, Obama actually did something to rile up the Hispanic base. And technically, if we were to go with your last statement, it would be vote for me, or Romney will deport you.

And even worse the media then has the nerve to say Romney is avoiding the immigration issue because he actually wants to create a full scale immigration policy, something everyone agrees we need.

But he never even hinted at what it would include. Last time I checked, candidates for office (especially the presidency) ought to offer details of their own policies. Obama did by advocating for the Dream Act; Romney hasn't. Obama also wants a full scale immigration policy; but our only chance at doing so is after the election.

I know liberals love talking about helping people and keeping everyone happy but even they have to admit we have a massive immigration problem in this country and allowing illegals to stay is not the solution even on the heart string cases...solve the problem and quit using band-aids for open heart surgery.

Unfortunately, it is both irrational and impossible to deport the roughly 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States. The only way to solve the problem is to allow some of them (ultimately the majority of them) to stay here. After all, many of them are children who were brought here as youngsters. This isn't being compassionate; it's being rational. Some illegals, those who have recently come here, ought to be deported, but those who have been here for about 5 years or more can stay. In addition, we need to simplify the immigration system to make it easier to emigrate here legally, to increase visas for highly-skilled students, to offer citizenship to foreign college graduates with degrees in fields that will be crucial for the future, and to establish a work permit system to bring in low-skill laborers to the country. This is a mouthful and will hurt everyone, but that makes it appealing and necessary.

OBAMA BIDEN 2012

RedevPS, from your link...

After a lifetime of hard work and paying into Social Security, middle class Americans deserve assurance that they can retire with security.

SS was never set up for oldsters to retire with security. It was set up solely as a suppliment. Regardless, what have obama and company come up with to ensure SS and medicare sustainability? Interesting that they don't want to offer their own alternatives as provided by the US constitution.

Obama... one and done 2012!

Romney said illegals should self-deport because we should deny them jobs. I agree with him. Make it a felony to hire an illegal.

Obama made an attempt to start immigration reform by approaching Lindsey Graham, who was willing - until his peers told him to back off. Working with Obama would have violated their policy of doing everything to make Obama a one term president.

Besides, all Obama has done is prioritize who to go after and deport. He has NOT granted amnesty (like Reagan did), he has merely told law enforcement to get the felons, gang members, and gun runners. Is he supposed to go after the low hanging fruit, or the criminals.

this guy is killing the GOP. first the president has executive priviledge. second he's chasing away the rest of the latino's. so they just lost the election. good luck willard.

Obama this is not a dictatorship- !!! It is a Constitutional government. Go back to Chicargo, clean up that mess and, when you done, if ever, come back and "lead" us some more.

God Save America from a corrupt baffoon of a president.

There are more gang bangers per capita in ILLINOIS, home of Obama, than any other state in the union.

In a June 2012 CNN poll, 75% of Americans support Arizona's ILLEGAL immigration law that is now before the Supreme Court.

The truth that the media refuses to tell is that the vast majority of Americans (including this life-long Democrat) ARE DEMANDING enforcement of our immigration laws (the MOST GENEROUS LAWS IN THE WORLD-- permitting appox. 1 Million LEGAL immigrants EVERY YEAR)! We are NOT in favor of granting rewards and special treatment incident to immigration lawbreaking. Why do some people believe they are above the rule of law. In America the rules should apply to EVERYONE! You do not gain an advantage by breaking the law!

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE! Obama will pay the price in November 2012 (and I was one of his most ardent supporters in '08)!!!

Alan, NJ

@Freshieee

Actually, most illegals pay taxes, like sales tax and the payroll tax.

They also get large tax refunds back, so all the money they have spent on sales tax they get back plus some.

I see this every payday they illegal hispanics come into the bank I work at they cash their payroll checks on their employers account they go next door to the grocery store and western union the money to Mexico. The next day the stores bookkeeper makes the stores deposit with a lot of hundred dollar bills in the deposit. One time I said "wow a lot of hundreds" her reply was "yesterday you guys cashed a lot of hispanic payroll checks and they came over and sent the money by western union the money to Mexico." The hispanics that are here legally actually have bank accounts and deposit their money into their account.

At tax time they come in and cash their $3000-$7000 refund checks and off they go with "their" money. Most people would deposit that money not put it in their pocket.

Every few months after ICE has raided their place of employment we see a whole new group of hispanic employees except for the one that are here legally we see them month after month.

So please don't say they pay taxes such as sales and payroll.

Plus the majority of them (illegals) do not have drivers licences or auto insurance yet they drive. No problem here!

The children are innocent they did not have a choice I do not blame them. The parents knew what they were doing was illegal and they didn't give a sh!t they did it anyway. Just like the legal citizen who robbed the bank they knew it was illegal but did it anyway...they just wanted a better life. They got caught and do time. The illegal hispanic gets a slap on the wrist.

The GOP will single handed defeat themselves come this election, the problem is they should be more worried about the legal immigrants than the illegal ones those are the ones that will vote for OBAMA because of actions like this one, what is shows is the GOP will try to push back any progress made by these Mexicans in this country. And the GOP always say how smart they are, you have got to be kidding.

Alan,NJ

Why is it always the immigrants fault? There are a lot of sleazy employers that pay under the table, so that they can stiff the worker out of pay that they earned. They also don't want a SS number trail to show the IRS. Many illegals know the ropes, but many more don't. They are just being used and exploited. My neighbors all have legal, immigrants doing their picking. They do a good job and work cheap. Most people in my area don't want to stand, bent over, all day in 90 degree heat, to pick berries and tomatoes. if you want to do that type of work, instead of unemployment, You might be an immigrant.

demmie - You are right.  It is also the employers who hire illegals faults.  It would be nice if the Manadatory e-verify legislation in the House (HR 2164/HR 2885 - The Legal Workforce Act ) was moved forward for a vote. There are currently 75 sponsors.

bmac-4314069

I t does not matter because illegals cannot vote for the President. Why do you think OBama wants to give them amnesty????? Get a grip and listen!!!!!

That sounds funny coming from the party that actually granted amnesty for illegal aliens under St. Ronald Reagen. That's right Tpublicans, your saint was the only president in US history to grant amnesty to Illegal aliens.

It's funny that no past Republican president is right-wing enough to get elected now. Reagen raised taxes, republicans ignore it. Bush spent like a drunken sailor, started two wars, gave billions away to wall street and the pharmaceutical companies and republicans claim he wasn't really a conservative. You are the most paranoid/Schizophrenic people I've ever seen.

I remember AG John Ashcroft testifying to congress regarding the 'sneak and peak' provisions of the Patriot Act. The public didn't like the idea that the gov could come into your house without a warrant while you weren't home 'just to see' if there was anything illegal going on there. Ashcroft told the press that they hadn't used that provision. Dems didn't buy it, and wanted to make political hay over the issue. So they asked him - under oath - if the DOJ had used the provision, and if it had worked to find any terrorists. He refused to answer. The dems reiterated that they asked only for general numbers, not names, dates or any other info which could compromise security, and did he think security would be compromised by providing those numbers? Ashcroft said no. They asked him if Bush had asserted executive privilege. He said no. They asked him then what reason could he give for not providing info that congress - who voted for the law and would need to vote for continuance - had a right to know. Ashcroft had no answer. Frustrated dems - and only dems, no pubs joined in here - told him they needed either the info, or a legal reason why he could not provide the info. After lengthy consultation with his lawyers, Ashcroft finally used this justification:

Anything which could hurt the president politically would hamper his efforts to win the war on terror, and thus is de facto a matter of national security.

I'm curious, for all those pubs who now yell about executive limitations, the Constitution and the separation of powers: do you still agree with Ashcroft that the political health of the President is a matter of national security? Or have you changed your minds now that a democrat is in the White House?

The right of Habeas Corpus - the right of a citizen to challenge unlawful detention - comes from the Magna Carta, and was an integral part of English commonlaw. The US Constitution says that Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended except 'when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it'. Before the Bush administration, it had only been suspended once, during the civil war and reconstruction, when half of the US rebelled against the US government over their right to own slaves.

When the Bush admin wanted to suspend Habeas, they realized that 9/11 was not sufficient 'invasion' to invoke the exception to the constitutional guarantee. So they devised a different legal justification, promulgated to the public by Dick Cheney: the Constitution only guarantees Habeas, it does not originate it. Since the Magna Carta originates it, all we have to do is declare that we don't follow the Magna Carta, and that makes the Constitutional guarantee a mute point. With this justification, Bush suspended Habeas Corpus for the second time in US history.

So I'm curious: all you pubs who yell about freedom and unbridled executive power, do you still think that the President can take away your constitutional right to challenge your detention by the government, whenever he wants and without justification? Or have your changed your minds now that a democrat is in the White House?

Excellent! I would love to see Arizona become a swing state.

The Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs (Cabot) to the Ambassador in Mexico (White)

[Washington,] August 12, 1953.

CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Francis: I was sorry not to have talked to you at greater length regarding the Department of Justice’s proposal to use Army and National Guard forces to stop the wetback traffic across the California frontier. Since I have every reason to suppose that telephone conversations between the Embassy and officers of the Department are recorded and since I do not wish the Mexican Government to know all the gory details about this matter, it seemed to me that we had better handle it by an exchange of letters, the more so as the Department of Justice will not act for some days at least. I should perhaps add that practically everything I said to you was aimed at the recording machine rather than at you.

I do not I am sure, need to tell you that the Department of Justice as well as this Department have been increasingly concerned at the enormous number of wetbacks who are slipping into the United States, nor do I need to point out to you how undesirable this traffic is. In California the situation has become particularly bad in that the wetbacks are resorting to violence and the people of Southern California are getting both alarmed and fed up. In other words, whether we like it or not something has got to be done about it. Interestingly enough, the same complaints do not come from Texas despite the fact that the wetback traffic there is also heavy. The Texas farmers seem to favor the traffic despite its inconveniences.

You are also familiar with the many representations which the Mexicans have made to us asking us to take effective measures to stop the traffic of wetbacks. It is true that the measure they have normally requested is that we crack down on the farmers employing the wetbacks. Practically speaking this is not possible for political reasons and, therefore, if we are going to do anything at all, it must be something else.

We recognize that the use of the military to stop the wetback traffic will almost certainly provoke incidents and that those incidents will react on our relations with Mexico. I am sorry that this is the case. Nevertheless any enforcement measures we take, or indeed any lack of enforcement measures we take, are bound to lead to incidents due to the tremendous pressure of the wetback movement. Under these circumstances and recognizing that we face a choice of evils, it seemed to me better to seize the bull by the horns, see how effective military measures could be on one section of the frontier, stimulate both sides to demand a mutually satisfactory bracero agreement and do what we can to convince the Mexican Government that our measures were at least in part due to their pressure. It was precisely to get the fairest possible opinion on the latter point that I talked to Brownell as reported in my memorandum of conversation of August 8.¹1. Not printed.

I would greatly appreciate a detailed expression of your views. Probably we could not stop the proposed measures even if we should make a last ditch fight of it, but naturally I should like to do what is right even if it is not likely to succeed. I shall therefore await your views with the keenest interest.²2. The source text bears the following handwritten postscript: “It seems to me pertinent also that the Mexicans are reported to use troops to patrol their side of the border.”

With every good wish,

Very sincerely yours,

John M. Cabot

The President did not break any law. He realizes that we do not have any money to do everything to protect this country, due to the resounding chorus of noooooooooos!! So, like any good manager, he prioritized those things that must be done and found deporting of students was a really low priority.

Now, all the states wanted to get into the immigration business. They can have at it now, but I bet their craziness will cease now that the federal government can no longer take those that are arrested, and can no longer reimburse the states their cost of harassing students, in the name of doing the federal government job. Those are the main reasons they were so dazed by the announcement and now just become a whining heap of --it!! Hey it's their first step on their way to Waterloo!!! He-he-he-he!

Think Progress:

Barbara Espinosa, the host of an Arizona radio show called “Hair on Fire,” called the President a “monkey” on a recent radio segment. “I don’t believe in calling him the first black president,” she said, “I voted for the white guy myself. I call him a monkey.”

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I hope Americans recognize what the Republican Party is doing to our country before they vote. I hope as well the rest of the world is paying attention.

That is despicable, Pat. How do people like that look themselves in the mirror?

How do people like that look themselves in the mirror?

I know for a fact they cannot see a reflection!

newday & Feisty: Last evening on MSNBC, they went down the list of those who are campaigning for Romney. And then gave backgrounds of each of them, particularly Ralph Reed. It was horrendous when his/their histories were shown. Horrendous.

We even got to see the out house.

newday, don't let these people here bother you. Unless they are completely out of line, let them push their BS.

I want the country to see who they really are. These are the people rooting for Romney.

Pat Boston MA.

If in fact Barbara Espinosa said those words about President Obama than she is an A@@ and she is an idiot. Again freedom of speech. But if I where you I would not bunch together every other Republican with that kind of ideology. I do not think that all the Lierales are like you or for that matter nor the Dems.

Most latin countries do not have the racism that I see in this site.

Pat, good try, you might convince some of your racist baiting, but furtunately your song is old.

This kind of reminds me of when there were fires in McCain's state, and he blamed "the Mexicans". Of course, as it turns out, "the Mexicans" had nothing to do with the fires.

Concerned Citizen, and if I were you I would quit giving advice.

Democrats aren't interested in what you have to say.

I intend to print every last thing I read or see about the GOP's behavior.

Did you see Obama's out house?

Today I would be ashamed to be a Republican. Gosh, they hate everyone except for the group of Likes Red Devil listed above.

Guns

Christians that carry guns

Christians that carry guns that kill non-whites

CORPORATIONS

War

Okay, to be clear.....if a radio personality makes an inappropriate, disrespectful statement, and that personality happens to be considered conservative, then suddenly, they ipso facto speak for all conservatives and represent the views of the majority of conservatives. However, if the same disrespectful or poor taste comment comes from a personality who happens to profess liberalism, then it is simply an exercise of freedom of speech and the conservative folks, unlike the liberal posters to this thread, are just supposed to "like it or lump it" in the name of respecting the freedom of speech for liberal ideas.

Thanks, Pat, and of course you are right. It feels lately like the paranoia level from the rwnj's have reached new and very boring heights!

Home Land Security has already cut back on deportation. The only difference is President Obama came out on Friday and announce it.

I hate how calculated politics can be.

Under growing pressure from open borders groups that accuse the Obama Administration of removing too many illegal aliens, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in early 2011 began to implement formal measures to relax the enforcement of U.S. immigration laws. DHS has set forth its new policies regarding removal in a series of memos issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton. Together, these memos constitute nothing less than the granting of administrative amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens currently in the United States.

On March 2, 2011, ICE Director John Morton issued a policy memo to ensure that his agency would only enforce the law against a specific subset of illegal aliens by setting forth new priorities for the apprehension, detention, and removal of illegal aliens. This subset, according to Director Morton, includes:

1. Aliens who pose a danger to national security or are a risk to public safety;
2. Illegal aliens who have recently entered the U.S.; and
3. Aliens who are fugitives or "otherwise obstruct immigration controls."

Under this memo, ICE's priorities do not include the vast majority of illegal aliens currently in the United States — i.e. those who have neither been convicted of a crime or have been caught and absconded. Although the memo states that nothing in it shall be construed "to prohibit or discourage" enforcement of U.S. immigration laws in general, it concludes that "resources should be committed primarily to advancing the priorities set above."

On June 17, 2011, ICE Director John Morton issued two policy memos. The first was intended to discourage ICE agents from enforcing U.S. immigration laws against illegal aliens who would qualify for the DREAM Act — amnesty legislation that Congress voted down in both October 2007 and December 2010. In the memo, Morton writes that due to a lack of resources, the agency "must regularly exercise 'prosecutorial discretion' if it is to prioritize its efforts." Morton states that appropriate moments to exercise prosecutorial discretion include:

1. Deciding whom to stop, question, or to arrest for being unlawfully in the country;
2. Deciding whom to detain or release;
3. Settling or dismissing a proceeding; and
4. Executing a removal order.

According to Morton, appropriate factors to consider when exercising prosecutorial discretion include:

• ICE's civil immigration enforcement priorities (i.e. the memo from March 2, 2011);
• The alien's length of presence in the U.S.;
• Whether the alien came as a young child;
• The alien's pursuit of education in the U.S. , with particular consideration to those who have graduated from a U.S. high school or are pursuing a college or advanced degree;
• Whether the alien or the alien's immediate relative has served in the U.S. military;
• The alien's criminal history; and
• The alien's ties and contributions to the community.

These are all eligibility criteria for amnesty under the DREAM Act, legislation which Congress specifically rejected in both October 2007 and December 2010. Moreover, the June 17th memo encourages ICE agents to take steps to exercise favorable discretion early on — without waiting for an alien or his lawyer to request it. As Morton states, "[T]he universe of prosecutorial discretion is large."

newday DAWNING...RETURNED

That is despicable, Pat. How do people like that look themselves in the mirror?

It sure is newday.

But the GOP/Baggers are not racist. They just do racist things like hanging simulated "lynching" of our 44th President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama.

http://www.zimbio.com/Pastor+Terry+Jones/articles/E9g74-GblX-/WATCH+Pastor+Terry+Jones+Florida+Hangs+Barack

sue- that's just the normal liberal hypocrisy found everywhere in today's world.

job1

Everyday is a great day to be a Republican. We can think. we do not have to be spoon fed ideas and we can fix stuff.

What can you do but blame anyone else and spew ignorance?

Sue, is it just a coincidence that every Republican I personally know echos this kind of sentiment?

Is it a coincidence that at ball games, concerts and any number of other public events, people that spout this kind of rhetoric identify themselves as Conservative when I ask them.

No, this kind of hate talk of very prevalent among the right wing groupies.

thetotas

Home Land Security has already cut back on deportation. The only difference is President Obama came out on Friday and announce it.

I hate how calculated politics can be.

Correction: you hate anything President Obama does.

In case you missed, this is not the 1st time our President spoke of deportation. He spoke of deportation in his State of the Union address.

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/24/10228920-president-obamas-state-of-the-union-address-full-text-of-prepared-remarks?lite

President Obama had been meeting with Lationo groups opposed to so many deportations I applaude his courage, Repubs have none

@ Pat I abhor racist remarks no matter what their politics. However I do not believe all Republicans are racist and all Democrats are not. It saddens me whomever it comes from.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/barney-frank-makes-awkward-trayvon-martin-hoodie-joke-during-commmencement/

I think it is up to us to call out anyone who makes these kind of remarks no matter what their political affiliation.

What can you do but blame anyone else and spew ignorance?

Correction, I think your team has the market cornered on the above while you dumb down America.

To:

Pat Boston MA.

Concerned Citizen, and if I were you I would quit giving advice. Democrats aren't interested in what you have to say. I intend to print every last thing I read or see about the GOP's behavior. Did you see Obama's out house?

Pat, I tend to disagree with you that democrats aren't interested in what I have to say. Any one from the left middle or right that at this day and age is racist in my opinion is a fool.

However anyone that uses it racism to gain political cloud is in my view an evil and despicable IDIOT.

By your Avatar I would guess that you are a black American, just remember that I'm a black/latina/woman, and I know what is out there. I'm voting for Romney and it is not because of his Color.

Daily Kos/Time Magazine:

President Obama:

A year and a half ago, Democrats passed the DREAM Act in the House. It got 55 votes in the Senate, but Republicans blocked it. The bill hasn’t really changed since Republicans co-wrote it. The need hasn’t changed. And it’s still the right thing to do. The only thing that has changed, apparently, is the politics.

It makes no sense to expel talented young people, who, for all intents and purposes, are Americans. They’ve been raised as Americans and know this nation as their own. To expel these young people who want to staff our labs, or start new businesses, or defend our country simply because of the actions of their parents or because of the inaction of politicians makes no sense.

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Precisely because this is temporary, Congress needs to act. There is still time for Congress to pass the DREAM Act this year, because deserving young people should be able to plan their lives in more than two-year increments. And we still need to pass comprehensive immigration reform that addresses our 21st century economic and security needs.

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Just six years ago, the unlikely trio of John McCain, Ted Kennedy and President Bush came together to champion this kind of reform. I was proud to join 23 Republicans in voting for it. So there’s no reason that we can’t come together and get this done.

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We didn’t raise the Statue of Liberty with its back to the world. We raised it with its light to the world. What makes us American is not a question of what we look like or what our names are. What makes us American is our shared belief in the enduring promise of this country – and our shared responsibility to leave it more generous and more hopeful than we found it.

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There are no Republicans who come close to the type of leadership President Obama presents. These are the words that should be presented to the world from our leader here in the United States of America.

Okay, to be clear.....if a radio personality makes an inappropriate, disrespectful statement, and that personality happens to be considered conservative, then suddenly, they ipso facto speak for all conservatives and represent the views of the majority of conservatives.

Sue - The righty radio people have getting pretty consistent with it lately, though. I mean Its getting pretty bad when Rush calls a bunch of "Nuns", Feme-Nazi's.

Obama/Biden 2012

Hi, Beverly! Hope things are well with you.

Will take a look at that. But nothing surprises me with that bunch, sadly enough.

By your Avatar I would guess that you are a black American, just remember that I'm a black/latina/woman, and I know what is out there. I'm voting for Romney and it is not because of his Color.

Concerned Citizen, as a black woman you don't know who that is in my avatar? You don't know how this man spent his whole life paving the way for black women to have civil rights; the same rights I have had my entire life without having to have gotten them from the Supreme Court?

He was the bravest, most tenacious man who made more of a difference to America than any other single individual, except for Lincoln and possibly Washington.

If as a black woman you don't know who this man is, then I can absolutely understand why you would vote for Romney.

Don't listen to the pundits on Fox, don't listen to Limbaugh or the fake Christians. They have never changed anyone's life for the better.

Concerned Citizen, and if I were you I would quit giving advice.

Amen to that Pat!

Is this the outhouse you're talking about?

From my earlier comment;

Real erudite bunch the modern day GNOP are;

The Montana Republican Party showcased a bullet-ridden outhouse described as the "Obama Presidential Library" at their state convention over the weekend.

Delegates took pictures with the outhouse, which featured what was described as a
"fake birth certificate" for Obama in an effort to showcase the birther movement, The Missoulian reported. State Republican Chairman Will Deschamps dismissed the outhouse, which also made sexual references to First Lady Michelle Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, as a "sideshow

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/montana-republican-convention-obama-outhouse_n_1605567.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

The Republican National Committee managed to cover racism & misogyny in one fell swoop!

This kind of rhetoric is obnoxious enough when done by fringe outside groups, and now we have members of the GNOP illustrating how despicable the party of Saint Reagan has become!

If this is the option to be something other than a tree hugging, lefty liberal, I’ll stick with the kool-aid!

You’ll must be so proud to belong to a party of so much intolerance & hatred!

The most biased site is this vine. msnbc shows their true colors over and over with lies..yall condemn fox but geezzzzzzzz. their editing is just plain ole bias to the bone.

Sue, when a conservative elected official sent out pictures of the presidents face super-imposed onto a photograph of a ape family or when a conservative elected Judge sent out dirty racist jokes about the presidents mother, it tells me that the racism runs deep in the conservative circles. Also do not forget the watermelon patch White House e-mail, the bullet riddled outhouse at the last week's conservative seminar. I wonder if Newt endorsed it on his way in to be Mitt Romney's hand picked keynote speaker. So dear Sue, it is not just independent radio talking heads who happen to be conservatives who are spewing the hate!

Yes Feisty, that's the outhouse. Here in America in the 21st Century. All because we elected Barack Obama.

I've seen people in that party go pretty low, but this topped it all. And it was only this past weekend that they brought that out.

And all these Republicans on television, who attempt to downplay the racism, will in fact still vote that party come November.

Romney says nothing.

Bev,

I dont agee with some of President Obama's policies but that doesn't make me hate him, I think he is a very likable guy.

As for Pastor Terry Jones, he is a demented damaged person who should be ignored. What this man does to get attention is very disturbing, ignoring him will take his voice away.

Pat Boston MA.

Concerned Citizen, as a black woman you don't know who that is in my avatar? You don't know how this man spent his whole life paving the way for black women to have civil rights; the same rights I have had my entire life without having to have gotten them from the Supreme Court?

He was the bravest, most tenacious man who made more of a difference to America than any other single individual, except for Lincoln and possibly Washington.

Pat what makes you think I do not know who he was? Is it because I'm was a Dem turned Independent? Who are you to judge me? Do you know what I listen or not listen to. I think you are assuming too much Pat. For now let's agree that great things have been done in our country by Black Americans, not just men but also women. What gives you the right to pontificate to any American that does not carry your Ideals.

Thanks for the History lesson, I already knew it, but I'm sure that some of the other Pontificating Liberal did not.

Really, concern; so the person in Pat's avatar is......

Really, concern; so the person in Pat's avatar is......

NDD,

NO WAY!

Never gonna happen...

Even if she called a friend & used her lifeline at the same time! lmao!

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Really, concern; so the person in Pat's avatar is......

Hi girlfriend, I thought you had tagged me Ignore this author. Do you know who Maceo is Beisty Red b@#$%. Olle tu necesitas un buen favor. Interpreta mi silencio Liberal!

LOL.....the Liberal Flys are out.

ROMNEY/RUBIO 2012.

Newsflash: SCOTUS just announced the Mandated Universal Health Care Reform legislation as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

I'm obviously a woman of hispanic descent and I'm a conservative and a registered Republican. I cannot believe the amount of hate that is reflected in many of the posts that I have just read here. To voice a difference of opinion that reflects thoughts and perceptions that outline ones distaste for the way government in many ways is impeding on our rights as citizens of this country should promote a healthy discussion of the issues; certainly not promote vile untruths and hatefilled rhetoric; i.e. the list that things that Republicans hate and like for example. Those of you that voted for President Obama certainly express your distain of any opinions that give rise to what you think is hateful commentary about our President...well, I think that those of us that didn't vote for him deserve the same respect.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL and that other Liberal newdayDAWNING...RETURNED

Really, concern; so the person in Pat's avatar is......

NDD, NO WAY! Never gonna happen... Even if she called a friend & used her lifeline at the same time! lmao!

I don't have to do this, but since you all think you are so smart

His name is Thurgood Marshall and you also thought that Romney was NO WAY! Never gonna happen. Just go to show you.

Now tell me who Maceo was. Gorda Fofa.

ldo

LOL.....the Liberal Flys are out.

ROMNEY/RUBIO 2012.

Newsflash: SCOTUS just announced the Mandated Universal Health Care Reform legislation as UNCONSTITUTIONAL

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NEWSFLASH IDO: Time for you to up the dosage.

LMAO frankH, talk about proving sue's comment to be the truth. Way to go!!!

This list is accurate, but don't forget they'll instantly and viciously hate any one of these issues if Obama somehow decided to support them?

Remember how they shrieked about Libya? If it wasn't Obama though, Libya would have been in the favored list.

Today I would be ashamed to be a Republican. Gosh, they hate everyone except for the group of Likes Red Devil listed above.

Guns

Christians that carry guns

Christians that carry guns that kill non-whites

CORPORATIONS

War

It used to bother me reading paid political blog garbage spewers over and over. Now It scares the hell outta me reading the ones who DON"T get paid and actually ARE such mindless drones. Paid bloggers, please raise your pitchforks so we may know who you are. (like anyone with a brain doesn't already know)

@juanita,

It's pretty sickening at times to read the responses from both sides. While there are bad republican posts, the high majority of the racist and judgemental posts come from the liberal side. This definitely isn't a forum where you're allowed to express your views and have adult conversations. Luckily in real life I friends from both sides of the aisle that I can have adult 'debates' with, and still be friends afterwards. :)

justredd64

The most biased site is this vine. msnbc shows their true colors over and over with lies..yall condemn fox but geezzzzzzzz. their editing is just plain ole bias to the bone.

Want to give us some examples of their "lies"? If you can, I'd be happy to demonstrate 4 FOX lies to every 1 MSNBC lie.

Wow, there are actually people here that have vote pandering confused with "courage".

When are you going to get it ???? YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, PEOPLE ! These illegal kids are the ones that will be paying for your futur RETIREMENT !!!

America's population is aging and americans do not have enough kids to support baby boomers and futurs retirees !! THIS IS WHY THAT DECISION WAS MADE !!!

Ido: where is your source for SCOTUS saying the individual mandate is unconstitutional? I find no ruling yet.

You do realize that the individual mandate is a republican idea, right? It was the centerpiece of Newt Gingrich's opposition plan to Hillary's failed attempt at healthcare reform in the early '90's. Poor Romney; he was just following the republican agenda when he put the mandate in place as governor. Now it is so hated by republicans that he can't even discuss his record as gov on the campaign trail. Nor can he defend himself on the issue, for fear of alienating 'his' base. I almost feel bad for him. Almost.

You are missing the point. Congress is responsable for passing the laws even thow they are doing a terrable job its the process like it or not. If President Obama declared and excecutive order on something you were strongly opposed to, would it still be ok

He's all set, he promised Obama the job starting in January.

I hope Boehner holds an up or down vote on this and if it passes the House, Harry Reid does the same thing. Let's get people on record.

I hope Boehner holds an up or down vote on this and if it passes the House, Harry Reid does the same thing. Let's get people on record.

I doubt that it'll happen. The Republican's having nothing to gain. If they vote to change the law, they risk the hispanic vote while gaining nothing from their already angry base. Plus, a ready-made campaign issue will disappear. They're better off complaining about it between now and the election.

Hmmmm. This Uncle Sambamma scheme has some sort of purpose.... What might it be? Hmmm.... Not deporting YOUNG (not children Bankacrat zombies) I.A's. Fed suing Florida for laws keeping I.A.'s from voting......Hmmmm..... Don't act like I'm your buddy either Oilican groupies. I don't understand why you too groups don't get along wonderfully. Only difference in the parties is their names. Used to be during Oilican Presidency oil co's made mountains of moolah, and bankers when a Bankacrat pres was in. Uncle Sambamma made all the super greedy be happy as a tick on Oprah's butt. No more Star Belly Sneetch act. Stop acting like recent labodomy patients and accept that there should be but one party, the Oilybankacratican Party.

No the republicans have carrots they dangle to get the stupid to vote for them.

You want to take the rights away from women then the republicans promise the pretend christians that is exactly what they will do.

You want to take the rights away from gay people then the republicans promise the pretend chrisitians that is exactly what they will do.

You want to take the rights away from innocent people to walk home without being killed then the republicans promise the NRA that is exactly what they will do.

You want to take the rights away from voters in now a pretend democracy then the republicans promise the 1% that is exactly what they will do and the donations pour in from the rich.

The republicans dangle all these carrots for those who think that republicans actually care about anything except gaining power and with their ignorant help can then give more tax cuts to the richest while our country drowns in tax cut debt for the 1%.

Divide and conquer has been working for the republicans for years. Are you going to help them?

Are tax cuts more important than jobs and the economy in America?

They are if you vote for a republican.

If what you say is true newday,WHY DID WALKER BEAT THE RECALL?? Did the 1% of the Wisconsin voters elect him? Didn't the 99% not vote??

American first said- No the republicans have carrots they dangle to get the stupid to vote for them.

So telling the Hispanic voter that if they don't vote for Obama he is going to deport your family isn't carrot dangling? Your currently are apart of a party that holds itself as essentially the slave owners of the non-working poor, please tell me you understand they are the most susceptible to influence by those who have power over them.

I'm not an Oilicrat walkin brainfart. But I am attacking (verbally) the idea there is ANY difference in the parties. So, walk back through the machine and have the star removed from your gut. All the Sneetches are the same and we know it.

If that dangle thing is true, AliensFirst, then either you and BadDayDawning either DON'T like carrots, Or they wouldn't take you. Paid losers like you two turn my stomach. Even people with your I.Q.'s can see that YOU TWO ARE THE CARROTS. Your ilk is turning me GOP. Didn't think anyone was worth voting for B4. But any group that see's the public as just so many idiots as your post shows is worth voting against.

If all else fails just tell lies about the people who blog on here.

That is all the republicans have is lies why should I expect anything more?

It is not our fault that the republicans voted for the Ryan budget which is the same policies that are creating double-dipped recessions in England and Ireland. But Paldude has bought the republican scam hook,line and sinker and is going to vote for a recession republican so the rich can have more tax cuts.

Then he wonders why we question his smarts?

you are aware that being in the country illegally is illegal, right?

You are aware that this executive order only covers people who came here as children with their parents...

I guess the person who came over here with their parents when they were 5 should realize the error of their ways at the age of 17 and self-deport. That is so pointless.

If you want to save money, try ending oil subsidies and close loopholes for the mega-wealthy as opposed to kicking out law abiding people trying to realize the american dream.

And you dont think they should do it ...just like all immigrants have since we opened up the gates at Ellis Island?

All illegals should be picked up and deported. When are they going to deport Obama's illegal Aunt and illegal Uncle?

Obama will be announcing a new executive order shortly to cover that. It will be known as the Uncle Onyago Order, and will allow old drunk driving illegals who have been evading deportation for 20 or more years to permanently remain in the country

TKS,

What do you tell the people who came here legally? What about the people who have been waiting for years to get here legally? What about the people here looking for jobs. What lessons are we teaching our children?

Well, thetotas,

I guess the lesson I would teach my children is that well meaning people who work hard shouldn't have their lives destroyed by the government. Again, this executive order covers people who came here as children and are doing what their supposed to be doing. It wasn't always like this... Immigration, for some ethnic groups used to be very easy... If only there was an Ellis island system now! at some point we began cracking down.

I also don't think exempting people who came here as kids for deportation and giving them work papers takes away from American josbor screws over legal immigrants. People who can afford to do it legally, who aren't being given asylum generally won't be occupying the same type of jobs...

And the illegals stealing American jobs debate is so tired... Look at Alabama... Obama has deported more Mexicans per year came over the border and Alabama adopted a tough new anti immigrant law - And now they can't find enough people wiling to work on the farms for the prices their willing to pay! Make no mistake, we're exploiting them, not the other way around

Who cares about breaking the law or the constitution.

That's funny.

Mitt says Obama didn't go far enough... so I guess you'll be voting for Obama as no president in history has done more to control the Mexican boarder.

The funny thing is....that he is supposed to be a learned constitutional lawyer!

Too bad you don't know what your talking about!

If Congress want do their jobs, well then the President has to do everything possible and do the job for them.

The legislation has been introduced. Let's have an up or down vote on it. Just remember, before Prop 187, California was a fairly reliably Republican state in Presidential elections. It has gone for the Democrats in every election since.

The Republicans block everything the President proposes, then they blame him for doing nothing. So the President uses his Executive Privilege and does something, but they are pissed they weren't able to block it.

Your point is exactly the one I have been pushing for months.

What is appalling is how lacking the media is in pointing the GOP hypocrisy out. The Dream Act has come up for vote 3 times during President Obama's term and each time the Republicans have refused to let it be voted upon, or voted lockstep against it. Yet they come out and rail on the President because he takes steps to move this nation forward when they play partisan politics with the important issues of this country.

Republicans have:

no Jobs Bills;

no Immigration Policy Legislation;

no other ideas except Tax Cuts and Entitlement Reduction;

no morals, compassion, or empathy for the middle & lower class Americans.

As another poster says: Are Tax Cuts more important than Jobs? If so, vote Republican!

I think the O looks bad by being himself....I don't think he needs any help. With 8.2% unemployment illegals will be competing against citizens for jobs.....

Reality does not support your thesis ! They're here because no one was taking the jobs they fill.

For a small percent of jobs you are correct....but I personally know of someone who needed a social security card to keep his job and brought one in 3 hours later....so for the bigger picture they will be competing for jobs....they're not just picking fruit and veggies.

And unemployment is at 8.2% because of the Rights/Conservatives push to eliminate government workers, who happen to be losing jobs faster than anybody else right now.

It amazes me how Republican supporters think that the person who works in the Public Sector is somehow not as human as the person who works in the Private Sector. When a person loses their job (Public or Private) they are classified UNEMPLOYED.

You can't reduce the number of government employed people on one hand and then cry about an 8.2% unemployment rate on the other; that is unless you are a Republican supporter then you can do whatever you want because FACTS DON'T MATTER to Republican supporters; cause and effect have no credence with Republican supporters; compromise and fair dealing are foreign concepts to Republican supporters.

"Making sure President Obama is a one-term President" is THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS TO REPUBLICAN SUPPORTERS.

whatever...

You can if you have states that can not balance their budgets. Would you suggest they open up thier own treasury and print some new Illinois money...... maybe with Rham on the 3 dollar bill! Or better yet the back of Feistys head.

President Obama's social policies are not what makes him look bad. It is his lack of leadership. Also, there are more pressing issues than "social policy" that I sure wish he would use his executive orders on, believe me!!

sirie

President Obama's social policies are not what makes him look bad. It is his lack of leadership. Also, there are more pressing issues than "social policy" that I sure wish he would use his executive orders on, believe me!!

I've watched you Republican supporters push that "It's his lack of leadership." talking point now for well over a year. How about you post an example of "his lack of leadership" instead of just repeating the David Luntz focus tested talking point?

Seems to me, the only people who are lacking in leadership are the Tea Party/Republican members of the House and Senate. You cannot simply vote NO on every piece of legislation that your opposition or the majority puts forth.

Obstruction is not leadership. Continually working against the greater good of this country is not leadership. Openly saying your goal is to defeat the duly elected President of the United States of America is not leadership.

In my view, the Republicans have and are the group that lacks leadership. As the ole saying goes"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make em drink." Republicans were led to the water in the 2010 elections, yet they continue to turn their nose up at the water and refuse to drink anything but hater-aid. No, that's not leadership either; it's obstructionism.

Very nice. Very true.

Great post...

The immigrants that are here LEGALLY are the ones upset that they paid (someone said $15k and 7 years) and now they view this as a "free pass"

I see that Asians are now the highest immigrants in this country. They also boast a 51% Bachelor Degree upon entering this country.

I have nothing against anyone coming to US, as long as they produce and are enriching society.

:-D

A great reminder to all of us, JoAnne, and blessings and hugs to you and your family.

Rustyboy - Can I just add that nearly EVERYONE in Florida has been super nice when I've been there? From the administrator of the assisted living home to the cashier at Beall's Outlet, I've encountered nothing but kindness. I'm a cold weather girl and could never live there myself, but you've got some really nice neighbors!

I really hope most of you are paid to barf garbage on blogs. Otherwise there gonna be a lot of lemur people following each other off the edge. Bet most of ya see the Kings new clothes too. What do they look like anyway? Why can't you groupies see they aren't there for us? ANY OF THEM. (Less u be one of THEM)

My appoligies to all who do not blindly follow a party and actually do vote for who the think is best. To those that do.......hope you get better soon.

Marc- let me help you with a little known process to liberals called thinking and reasoning.

Gingrich proposed LEGISLATION

Obama has abused the Constitution and created a new section of the Immigration Nationality Act through dictator fiat rather than through legislative action of law as required by the Constitution.

If Obama had merely stated that he would order the Justice Dept to use prosecutorial discretion and not deport these people, he would have legal backing.

But Obama has gone beyond that to create a new qualification in the Law for a Green Card or Immigrant Work Visa.

That is an impeachable offense and we need to get rid of this occupier in the White House who despises the Constitution.

Perhaps though you or some other liberal can show us where Obama get's this authority

Here is the link so you can get started

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=80f63a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=80f63a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

BTW, my wife and her siblings and mother are all LEGAL immigrants from Latin America and they resent the way Obama treats immigration. It is a slap in the face to those who came here abiding by our laws.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution permits the president to issue Executive Orders. It's not an impeachable offense, presidents have been doing this since 1789. Immigration falls under the purview of the federal government. Immigration reform has been on the table in congress for many years and they've continued to kick the can down the road. Not only is the president permitted to do this, I'd say it's his duty.

ONCE AND FOR ALL - READ MY LIPS - THIS WAS NOT - I SAY NOT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER

This was an order to Homeland Security to cease and desist on deporting a certain class of people which were Young people under 30 years of age, who were brought to this country prior to when they were 16 years of age and who had lived here no less than fives years - and have no criminal record

They can register and will be given a pass for two years - which can be extended

They can attain driver's licenses and work permits

Now to answer another "lack of knowledge" posting illegal workers in this country contribute $1.8 Billion - Count it Billion dollars directly or indirectly to our country's government and economy

I agree with your post in one area, and one area only:

Our Government was created with checks and balances -

Now, go tell that to your Republican Senator's who think that the word MAJORITY means getting 60 votes in order for a piece of legislation to come up for a vote. I don't think our Constitution was written with the concept of the minority holding the majority hostage to a 2/3'rds majority in order to do the "Work of the People".

As for the Constitution being the law of the land? Tell it to the "Citizen's United Supreme Court" who ruled that money equals free speech therefore a person can give unlimited amounts of money to outside organizations to promote their personal agenda. Money is not equal to speech, since not everyone possess the same amount of money. Therefore the person with the most money to spend gets to say as much as they want? Show me where that concept is represented in our Constitution!

Nothing unconstitutional to see here goofy. Move along.

SATITAINTSO - You are still entitled to have your own opinion - at least for now since were not quite a Dictatorship yet and won't be if we can help it (that would be smart Independants and Republicans)... Good Luck if your unemployed.

Magn - who cares - your hero's did nothing they just wanted to be in power again - and again and look what they have wrought?

Is this what you want? Crumbling infrastructure - teachers fired and defamed - privatization of the entire country? Then little boy go for it is your white masters that have you sewn up just like the 1890's when the Baron's ruled America

I myself would rather have a benevolent dictatorship - rather what Romney's election would give us you are espousing that the Koch Brothers would control this country

No regulation - and their father's view of the US "the Birch Society" look them up they thought it was a communist plot to put flouride in our drinking water

Start researching and see the motivations of Romney's contributors - toxic waste in Texas - no regulations on business - Adellsson who has Casinos in Macao - no taxes for off shore profits and the beat goes on and kiss away middle America

Go for it it's probably what we all deserve for being stupid

Uhhh - Laura You mean they fight what he does Against the Country.... You betcha... The Potus cannot choose what laws to enforce and which to not enforce. The Constitution was written with checks and balances for reasons like this.. Unemployed Americans now understand their position in the pecking order, below illegal aliens that is. We are against Dictators like Obama, too bad you're not smart enough to see the problems created by this. This will come back to haunt him...

Im beginning to think Liberals all wish they had Vagina's, its funny to hear the ahem "men" scream vagina all day. We had a local legislator get up in session and start yelling about her vagina! I heard my next door neighbors 6 year old ask her mother.....if the guy walking on the street had a Vagina. lmao the funny thing is I think he may have.

jolly old soul - where were your grandparents born are you native American? Or are you like most of us who have heritages from a hundred countries? Tell me jolly old soul who are your parents or grandparents and when did they came to this country what were they seeking?

What are your roots? German, Irish, not Jewish surely not the Jews educated their children - maybe what English?

And you think what because your family were also immigrants you own this land? I think not- land cannot be owned but cherished - and what have you done to cherish it?

Fracking - polluting - supporting polluters?

Tell me Jolly what have you contributed? What organizations do you belong to - to the betterment of your fellow man?

Jamie You're reading too many comic books

Laws are passed by the corporate 1% to oppress the working people.

So it's the 1% keeping me from shooting you? Damn them.

The difference between a liberal and conservative is found in your comment - a liberal believes in your freedom to speak your mind and holds no grudge; a conservative is not satisfied with shooting off his mouth, but delights in shooting somebody that doesn't agree with him.

but delights in shooting somebody that doesn't agree with him.

I dont own a gun, but it does please me greatly to laugh at you.

a liberal believes in your freedom to speak your mind and holds no grudge

At statements like that, that are so far from the truth its, well, laughable. The most intolerant people on the planet are liberals.

dls-387641 It appears to me that liberals are the ones who break people's bones, who break their windows, who ransack buildings, who burn things up when they don't get their way. I have yet to see a conservative act like those of the occupy wall street movement. I have never seen a conservative beat up someone like union thugs have, and I have never seen a conservative loot and pillage as those liberals who love a good riot.

Trudat - My husband does own a gun - he served in the Air Force at the Berlin Wall as Air Police - unlike Romney who got four deferments and although I cannot speak for my husband I can speak for my two dead uncles - one my 18 year old beautiful blonde man who was on the Bataan Death March and my other beautiful dark haired gorgeous uncle who had his head blown off on one of the PT boats

Now getting past that - I have a hard time with all of the Chicken Hawks who are advising Willard for war with Iran

And Trudat as a liberal I too know how to handle a shotgun - did skeet shooting on my farm - however we recently got an invitation from the NRA to join them

After we read their vile comments and all but spit on their lies and threw their propaganda in the garbage - you might want to look at what is going on in this country - LIKE STAND YOUR GROUND and the voter suppression being conducted by the Republican Governors

Just saying Trudat - if you can't win legally why not cheat - from Karl Rove's Playbook

Floridamom - How old are you? Did you not see or hear about the 20's and 30's when there was tremendous violence to break the union backs?

And Reagan when he closed down the Air Traffic Controllers

Then there was Maggie Thatcher in England in the 80's hand in hand with Reagan with tremendous violence to break the coal miner's unions

So Floridamom - it has been a lifelong mission of the Republicans to break the unions - why - "RIGHT TO WORK STATES" no minimum pay - no collective bargaining - we can fire you on the spot - nobody standing up for you - at the mercy of the Corporations to dictate what is fair

Well for one, ACA is unconstitutional so it would be upholding the law to fight it.

At the same time, what obama did was trampled on the law by literally saying it is not illegal to be illegal.

So im not seeing the comparison when both unconstitutional "laws" were enacted by the same person.

Way to dodge the point......

If the SCOTUS upholds the law, in whole or in part, then it is the law of the land.....and Willard has promised to circumvent that law by executive order if elected....THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!!!!!!

Your weak attempt at invalidating the comparison tells me that you, and in all likelihood your fellow CONs have not considered this point.....which may lead to problems down the road if you insist on continuing this line of argument...

Im just anti-liberal ignorance, im not a "CON", my point that you dont care about is that obama likes to ignore the laws of the US, which i guess is fine because so do you libs. The truth still remains, illegal aliens are here illegally and shouldnt be getting special privilege, we are the only nation in the world that tramples our own immigration laws, and now our president is ignoring them entirely.

That is the difference, ACA should not be a law, probably wont be a law. Immigration laws are laws and should be enforced, obama ignored them and you libs dont care because you know it is good for party line votes, you people are disgusting.

Romney can say all he wants about waivers because he knows the ACA will not pass the SC, so that is a simple pandering device, as opposed to spitting on every legal immigrant in the country.

You are now giving Romney the power to decide the constitutionality of a law unilaterally......wow...

The point that you are so desperately trying to avoid is that the ACA is currently the law....it was passed by congress and signed by the president. It is the law...and Romney promises to circumvent that law...

Your statement basically states that it is ok for Romney because you don't like ACA but it is an egregious offense when Obama does the very same thing because you do like the immigration law....pretty thin......Obviously CON logic at work....

You are now giving Romney the power to decide the constitutionality of a law unilaterally

Thats wonderful spin, yet its just typical liberal bull@!$%# spin.

Firstly, and i know you libs get confused about this thinking Bush is still president or a candidate or w/e you can spin it into, but romney isnt pres yet. By the time romney is pres (if) the SC will have already shot down ACA because it is unconstitutional, so AGAIN, romney can use it as a pandering device all he wishes.

However, immigration laws are law and obama has trample all over them and the constitution.

Are you still confused, or are you just going to spin it again?

Like it or not ACA is the law of the land....and Romney has promised to dismantle it by executive order on his first day of office.......NOT ONE voice was raised on the right about circumventing Congress or trashing the constitution, raising serious credibility problems with your current arguement.......there is no spin here, only facts...

and Romney has promised to dismantle it by executive order on his first day of office.......NOT ONE voice was raised on the right about circumventing Congress or trashing the constitution, raising serious credibility problems with your current arguement

Is romney president? I must have missed the election dammit.

Again, pandering about something you know will never hold water isnt unconstitutional. Ignoring laws, that every country on the planet strictly enforces, for votes is.

So your saying Romney is only PROMISING to do the exact same thing that Obama did so it's OK.......but if hi actually did it, he would hate America and the Constitution.....wow.....seriously thin argument.....along with raising serious questions about the credibility of your candidate......

Keep spinning you party hack.

Spin....what a CON such as yourself calls an argument for which they have no adequate response....

Youve made no argument.