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In his interview with CBS over the weekend, Mitt Romney joined the chorus of GOP critics arguing that President Obama played politics with his immigration announcement on Friday.
Romney: I think the timing is pretty clear, if he really wanted to make a solution that dealt with these kids or with illegal immigration in America, than this is something he would have taken up in his first three and a half years, not in his last few months.
Schieffer: So he did it for politics.
Romney: Well, that's certainly a big part of the equation.
But when it comes to immigration, perhaps no presidential candidate has politicized the issue more than Romney has over the past five years -- during his 2007-2008 bid and during his current one.
Indeed, the issue was a clear way for the former Massachusetts governor to prove his conservative credentials. And it was a weapon he used -- often with success -- against John McCain, Rick Perry, and Newt Gingrich, all of whom had supported some liberal policies toward illegal immigrants.
For instance, before the New Hampshire primary in Jan. 2008, Romney's campaign blasted McCain on immigration. "McCain pushed to let every illegal immigrant stay here permanently -- even voted to allow illegals to collect Social Security," went one Romney TV ad. "And Mitt Romney?... He opposes amnesty for illegals."
Here's another Romney ad, which aired in Nov. 2007 and which used Romney's own words: "We all know Hillary Clinton and the Democrats have it wrong on illegal immigration. Our party should not make that mistake. As governor, I authorized the state police to enforce immigration laws. I opposed driver's licenses and in-state tuition for illegal aliens."
Romney added in the ad, "As president, I'll oppose amnesty, cut funding for sanctuary cities and secure our borders. Legal immigration is great, but illegal immigration -- that's got to stop."
And during this cycle's GOP presidential primary, Romney hammered Perry on the fact that young illegal immigrants in Texas qualify for in-state college tuition rates.
"With regards to illegal immigration, of course we build a fence. And of course we do not give instate tuition credits to people who come here illegally," Romney said at a Sept. 12, 2011 debate in Florida. "That only attracts people to come here and take advantage of America's great beneficence."
At a following debate, Romney stated, "I've got be honest with you, I don't see how it is that a state like Texas -- to go to the University of Texas, if you're an illegal alien, you get an in-state tuition discount. You know how much that is? That's $22,000 a year."
More from Romney: "That kind of magnet draws people into this country to get that education, to get the $100,000 break. It makes no sense."
And after Gingrich began to see his poll numbers climb in the fall of 2011, Romney knocked Gingrich's call to give illegal immigrants who have lived in the U.S. for years a chance to gain residency status.
"To say that we're going to say to the people who have come here illegally that now you're all going to get to stay or some large number are going to get to stay and become permanent residents of the United States, that will only encourage more people to do the same thing," Romney said at a Nov. 2011 debate.
"People respond to incentives. And if you can become a permanent resident of the United States by coming here illegally, you'll do so. What I want to do is bring people into this country legally, particularly those that have education and skill that allows us to compete globally."
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You have to love it!
Willard flopping around harder then a guppy who escaped it's fish bowl!
This guy wants to be leader of the free world? You have GOT to be kidding!
When is some intrepid reporter going to ask him why he doesn't just tell the GNOP to pass the Dream Act?
Will the real Willard Romney please stand up?
Didn't Hussein say last year that he did not have this authority under the Constitution? Isn't that a flip flop?
So by his own words, Hussein is admitting that his role as president is "inappropriate." Interesting.
What ever Mitt says today will change tomorrow. He hasn't had held a solid position on an issue during his entire career in politics. Piss on Mitt Romney.
Well at least First Read admits that Obama was just "Playing Politics" with this announcement.
Ben is becoming increasingly frantic about his President. What are you Bennie, a birther?
Here is what is true about Mittens. He seems himself as a product. He is selling Mittens, the wannabe Presidential puppet. Therefore, he will say whatever he has to say to please the particular audience he is in front of, even if it totally discredits what he said the day before.
Think of him as the screaming television shyster manipulating people into buying junk.
That's our Mittens, JUNK!
Bennie who? lol
**waves to Feisty**
Romney is unable to say if he would reverse Obama's policy on immigration.
Now who is playing politics?
One thing is certain, Romney is a chicken.
He is afraid of answering questions.
He is afraid of Republicans and Democrats.
He is afraid of taking a stand.
It's impossible to envision him as a leader.
I can see this playing in the background as Bennie types up his comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
The 'it's tyranny!' argument seems to work up the right, who weren't going to vote for him anyways, so really...who cares what they have to say?
They cry about everything that isn't a tax-cut, unfunded war, a slash from the Bush budget (which they pushed through originally), or doesn't put the government in a woman's vajay-jay.
BTW - the population of latino's in north carolina has gone from 80,000 in 2008 to around 140,000 in 2012.
Could this move put North Carolina back in play and fire up the latinos?
Hope so.
OH Ruken!
That was priceless! ROTFLMFAO & *wiping away the tears*
Thanks!
Like, the Do-Nothing GOP congress was going to do something on the DREAM Act?
They didn't do anything under all those years under President Bush.
Congressionals are paid good taxpayer cash (for life) to get on with governing, but GOP vowed to block it ALL, ALL, ALL no matter who got hurt, from Day One. In the middle of the worst recession.
WE REMEMBER.
New day -- You seem to be increasingly frantic about the governor who has no chance of winning so why bother? Only ignorant a$$es worry about someone like that.
Ruken -- What part of what I posted is not true??? Only cowards hide behind cutesy little one liners and won't engage the truth. I believe that is your ilk.
Whoops, struck a nerve with poor Bennie. Guess he is a birther.
And after he clicks "Post Comment" he spins a few times in his chair.
LMAO!
Now, I have that damn song stuck in my head!
Well said MSN. They are not called Politicians for nothing. They both play Politics. I still prefer Mit Romney over Obama. President Obama has divided the Country in 6 parts. I Voted for him becasue he said he wanted to build a differrent America. I guess he did? The wrong Change.
Gays, Women, Men, Black and White and last Latinos. Tell me that is not Social Politics.
The White House is for sale, and it seems that SuperPacs can throw all the money in the world at the prize, but reality is that giving away our nation lock, stock, and barrel to the very subgroupings of citizens that our President has created and then created enmity between is the way of politics. I hope that you all appreciate that you are all just pawns in one huge worldwide political game to be spent and used as the President chooses. I cannot believe how everyone is just queueing up to worship at the shrine of somebody who hasn't kept a single promise to the American people (And before the chorus of "He killed Bin Laden" goes up, let us be realistic enough to give the military and the intelligence community the credit for actually going into that compound and doing the deed.) I am further appalled that you can scream about the 1% without ever acknowledging that the Democrats on Capital Hill are just as wealthy and just as much part of the 1% you seem to despise. There are no "common men" in government and haven't been for a very long time. And why should I believe any 1% member over another regardless of their party affiliation. According to your posts, they are all evil, money grubbers with no sense of social justice.
Romney played politics with immigration?
FR: Was that when Romney took his Campaign to talk to the cows?
PhotOH! Mitt Romney will never find a more captive audience
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/tag/2012-presidential-election/
Or when a fake dog was strapped on top a cadilac circling Romney's event in Milford, NH
Real Sweet
http://obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/610x-26.jpg?w=655
http://distilleryimage8.instagram.com/f86f38feb71611e19894123138140d8c_7.jpg
Or is Romney talking about his wife, Ann's addiction to dressage horses?
Ay You, it is your memory cells that are 'for sale' here, or are being re-written for you.
REMEMBER -
This President tried from Day One to bring the sides together and you know it. Even when it wasn't going to work, he still kept trying. Now the jury is out on GOP/Koch = no compromise, period.
You cannot blame the President for the lack of bi-partisanship in Congress, when GOP seniors like Cantor, Coburn, Ryan, Kyl, Gingrich, swore from DAY ONE of his presidency in a treasonous pact, to block everything.
= ZERO, ZERO compromise coming from GOP congressionals. No compromise = 100% partisanship from the right wing.
@ Feisty --
Romney will stand up when sitting down becomes unpopular.
He remains adamantly committed to sitting until then.
Ruken, now I also have that song stuck in my head. Good one.
LOL, amazing, how conservatives claim it's politics when President obama does something but it isn't politics when Mitt Romney kisses up to the evangelicals by being anti-gay marriage and anti-abortion even though his previous positions were the opposite; and he will repeal RomneyCare--oh, I mean ObamaCare--etc etc etc. Pssst, it's a political election for President--everything either of them does is political; in fact, one could make the argument that everything pertaining to government is political. Government and Politics are siblings.
If Mitt wins then the next President will really be Grover Norquist:
All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff. We don't need someone to think it up or design it. The leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the House and the Senate.
The requirement for president?
Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the United States. This is a change for Republicans: the House and Senate doing the work with the president signing bills. His job is to be captain of the team, to sign the legislation that has already been prepared.
Obama/Biden 2012
White Collar Auto..interesting thing to actually say about Obama..that he is playing politics..What then is all of congress and presidential want to be Romney doing then if not playing politics ? So far Romney has not laid claim to anything he will do as president other than cut taxes further for the wealthy...which includes himself. Romney goes from one statement to another making changes to his statements...I wonder what he really stands for other than himself.
Ben-
Here's where you're wrong: Obama didn't issue an executive order, which, as he said, would be inappropriate. He implemented a policy of enforcement which is completely within his prerogative.
DHS doesn't have the resources or the time to enforce/prosecute all of the cases they have, so it is his prerogative as the head of the Executive branch to dictate how available resources shall be used.
If you don't like it, write a letter to your Representative and Senator and tell them to quit obstructing our governmental process. I'm sure you live in a tea bagger's district.
BTW- I'm sure Ben is your middle name, since you insist on calling President Obama by his.
"Romney also has played politics with immigration"
I guess that's NBCs way of saying "It's OK for Obama to play politics with immigration because Romney did as well.
Somehow, that's like saying "Yes, I cheated on the exam, but it's OK because he did too".
YOUNG HISPANICS!You've made it! Welcome to the Wonderful, divide and conquer, feel good, Socialist World of Barack Obama!He NEEDS You!(for now),so he has PROMISED You that he will put a moratorium on deporting a certain of your number that fall within a certain age group,(those not over the age of thirty, kinda like the college kids he's going after, the young,pliant, impressionable, and naive), FOR TWO WHOLE YEARS! Cross His heart and hope to die! BUT,nothing predicts a mans future actions better than what he has done in the past, so this is what You should be aware of, and what You can actually expect from this man, listen to his words,then LOOK at his actions,He has deported more of Your people than any other President, EVER!, and he has made NO promise about stopping or even slowing down those deportations, so what do You think he will do to You when Your usefulness is up two years from now? What LEGALLY binding document has he actually sponsored through the legislature to protect You?(protect You, that's actually an ironically evil concept when You think of the thousands of weapons this man's "Justice "Department has allowed to be smuggled to and armed the Drug cartels with, and all the deaths in Mexico and South America those weapons have caused,Yup, this is a man who really cares about Hispanics), He also needs gays, their supporters and their MONEY, so he comes out and says "I support Gay marriage", again, what is there there to back up his words?, When You add this to the demonstrably empty promises he has already made; keeping unemployment under 8%,(40 straight months above 8% and not even close, although he is working on manipulating the numbers to make it look smaller than it actually is), cutting the deficit in half,(while actually increasing the deficit more than all previous Presidents combined), saying He will end wars While We are actually involved in more conflicts than We were when He came into office,Closing gitmo,.... No,and ending torture,..... by personally selecting individuals for political assassinations, with no thought of the collateral damage, including the deaths of innocent noncombatants, women, children, and other American Citizens, murdered, without trial,(but They didn't have water run up their noses!), so finally, You really have to ask Yourselves, if this guy will totally ignore the actual laws of the nation and the promises ha has already made,what do You think is the actual value of his words and promises to You? Buena suerte y vaya con Dios
Do you have anything to add to a discussion or just campaigning again?
Seems to me that Romney's position on immigration is "evolving". What's the problem with that?
This post has no byline, but I would like to thank the person who wrote it, for finally holding Romney accountable for his political trash talk. Immigration is a serious issue, and shouldn't be used to yank people's leashes. The President was very clear about what this order does and does not do - no amnesty, no path to citizenship, just an end to deporting illegals who came here as children and who do not have a criminal record.
If Romney has a problem with that, he should argue on the specifics, and say what he would do differently, otherwise, it's just another "wedge issue" the Republicans are so fond of exploiting with low-information voters.
I agree, Amy. Immigration is such a complex issue and I understand that reasonable people have differences of opinion. I don't get the inability to relate to the people the DREAM Act was meant to help---they were brought here as little children, have grown up in this country and have served our country in the military or gotten an education and the ability to earn a living. How can anyone oppose helping these young people?
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I agree, Amy. Immigration is such a complex issue and I understand that reasonable people have differences of opinion. I don't get the inability to relate to the people the DREAM Act was meant to help---they were brought here as little children, have grown up in this country and have served our country in the military or gotten an education and the ability to earn a living. How can anyone oppose helping these young people?
Just ask the GOP they have tried to make every problem with immigration the fault of the brown people. did any body see Jan brewer she is still bitching that we need to secure the boarders, not being humine to the problem the kids face being brought here by there law breaking parents.
Mitt said a few months ago that every illegal should self deport them selves, so mitt where do the kids go, this is the only place many consider home.
if obama is playing politics, good for him because mitt is too far behind the times.
SELF DEPORT!!! WHAT A GOOF!!!
I watched most of the interview yesterday. Romney also refused 3 times to say what tax breaks he'd end to balance his proposed rate reduction and prevent lower revenues from further increasing the deficit. He mumbled something about working with Congress, something about Simpson-Bowles, and something about not being his place to provide all the details.
For cryin' out loud, he's been running for President for SEVEN YEARS!! He still doesn't know what he thinks about the budget? Management of a budget is supposedly one of his strengths, and he can't figure THAT out?
"What the executive order does or doesn't do" Let's see, if you reason this out the the logical conclusions....not only do we have people from other nations coming here to give birth (the anchor babies to keep them in this country as the children are considered citizens by birth) Now we create a new class of anchor baby, who no longer have to be born here, but just have to arrive before 16 years old to get themselves and the whole family on the public gravy train. Now, not saying that is the motivation of the children, but the parents are using their children to break laws. But if we aren't going to deport those, by definition, young people, then it is safe to presume that we will have to honor the caretakers of these young people....American citizens are tied to their parents until well beyond the age of 21, but these kids can be 16-18 and automatically they get the same benefit, and actually more than American citizens, because if your parents aren't here illegally, then you can't have their wealth and income taxes held against you for financial aid post secondary......Kind of neat how that one works.
We're all immigrants unless a person is native American indian. Anyone coming to this country from Ireland, Germany, Russia, France, Britain and all other countries who have children, those children automatically became citizens by birth. That is the way my great, great-grand parent's children became citizens, and ultimately, their citizenship passed down to me.
In the world of conservative logic, it seems that none of us should be considered US citizens just because we were born here; afterall, minus American Indians, we are all children of immigrants. Think about it.
Sue-
It's not an executive order- the President only stated a new policy of enforcement by the DHS. Not even close to the same thing.
And you obviously don't actually know any immigrants. The notion that they would look at this change in policy as an incentive to come to this country is absurd! The reasons that people risk their lives to come to this country illegally don't involve whether they'll get social security or whether their children will get or have to pay back student loans.
The ignorance on the right in this country is staggering!
Mike, which laws do we need to ignore next...how about if none of us sent our taxes to the federal government because we don't agree with the tax policy...anything wrong with that. How about traffic laws, do you really think we need those laws or should it just be a free for all out there. Now here is a question for you...if your parents robbed a bank thirty years ago, should you be allowed to keep the "proceeds" of that illegal activity? We are either a nation of laws, or we are a lawless nation, which do you want?
OK, we should just go out and capture all 10M illegals tomorrow and deport them the next day. By that time we'll have in place an iron gauntlet that'll keep anything bigger than a jumping bean from getting across the border.
Where will the manpower come from?
Where will the money come from?
Who's willing to pay for that sort of border security year after year in a world where all government is defined as "waste" and "stealing"?
Law enforcement has to prioritize. They do it every time they decide to let someone drive by at 5mph over the limit because someone will be going 10+ within the next minute or so. They do it every time something goes on the cold case list because there isn't enough manpower to keep everything alive forever.
Would you prefer the authorities concentrate their resources on finding undocumented school kids as opposed to drug dealers and gang members?
Romney is just the new bush puppet. Romney will say and do whatever he is told, just like Norquist ask for. Just like bush, Romney is ready to follow the republicans into another recession for the rich 1%.
You have to be pretty dumb to think that is a smart move. But that is what the republicans count on, more hate than brains. From reading the post from the right the republicans have succeeded.
If president Romney has the deportation record of Preident Obama's administration, i as a republican would be thrilled.
A President Romney would be a third term of W Bush.
as long as there is no Obama second term..
Next time, ask the mothership for a better retort.
Obama is already doing a superb version of Bush's third term
More Debt
More War
Less Rights
More Entitlements
More Spending
If he had an (R) after his name would you notice?
Statue of Liberty: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door. "
Romney: "...particularly those that have education and skill..."
Ellis Island was famous for turning away the tired and poor wretched refuse of your teeming shore if an immigrant was determined to be too high a risk of burden on our American society.
That's true - about 2%, generally for health or legal reasons...not for lack of education or skill. Romney's comment is a stark contrast to the spirit of Liberty's quote and makes his idea of immigration sound like an employment interview for the talented rather than an open opportunity.
Romney is such a flagrant liar even his lies are flip flops. Apparently, he ignores the numerous attempts by the Senate to pass the DREAM Act and the equal number of GOPTP filibusters which blocked those attempts. So, just as with so many other pieces of legislation blocked by the GOPTP with the filibuster, President Obama took the action he can and signed Executive Orders. Cheers to President Obama; if you can't get Congressional republicans to get off their collective, filibustering rear ends, then take whatever action allowed by law to go around them.
Question for Mitt and the GOP: Why is it that President Obama signing E.O.'s is treated by the right as circumventing Congress while Reagan, Bush and Bush signing of E.O.'s is viewed as a President exercising his executive authority. To put it in terms Mitt Romney would understand: "what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."
It's called selective amnesia...
i would ask to what Executive orders under Reagan or Bush 1 and 2 your referring, but its unlikely you have knowledge to that (very unlikely).
In terms of Obama's; he is sweeping, some say millions of non-american citizens, into a single order. J Carter did a simialr thing welcoming back draft dodgers, but those were US citizens. Obama did not need to stop at just illegals here in the US, he could of offered Amnesty to every child around the world. There is limit to executive power, and congress does have opinions on the subject.
I do find it odd that Obama did not have congress pass this same issue when he had Both chambers of congress under democratic control - perhaps he lacked the will, or even cared enough to think of the matter. I find it far more likely his own party is not as "liberal" as you people like to pretend. Since at every opportunity "liberal" politicians have failed to deliver on "liberal agenda" time and time again. Healthcare, Gitmo, environment, ect ect. Hell OBAMA straight REFUSED to support the union recall of GOV walker, if thats not a disavowment (sp?) of the Labor movement i do not know what is. yet still you mindless fuzzy brained sheep bleat out his praise.. pathetic
Take your pick, Revenge; Reagan, Bush and Bush signed hundreds of EO's. Of course, there's also Bush 43's tendency to attach signing statements to legislation passed by Congress where he says he won't follow that part of the law. Now, that's really circumventing Congress. Nuance, it throws conservatives for a loop everytime.
Administration of George W. Bush (2001-2009)
Disposition of Executive orders signed by President George W. Bush:
Administration of Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
Disposition of Executive orders signed by President Ronald Reagan:
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Elise, thank you for the listing of EOs issued under President Bush, however you seem to miss the point. The number of EOs issued is not the issue, it is the number of EOs that circumvent the Constitution and give powers to the executive branch that the Constitution defines as being part of the legislative branch. Since you are the expert on these matters, can you list the number of such violations under both administrations?
Under the "Unitary Executive" theory of Neocons in the Bush Administration NOTHING the President did could be illegal. The very fact that the President wanted to do it made it both Constitutional and legal.
Under those circumstances do you really think it's advisable to start a big debate over lawlessness?
Too bad Nixon isn't still around, he'd have been right at home with that "Unitary Executive" thing.
It looks to me like Romney has had the same consistent no amnesty, anti-illegal ,enforce the law position on immigration ever since the beginning.This article verifies his solid consistent position except for the deceptive title" Romney Has also Played Politics With Immigration". Obama has done a number of reversals on illegal immigration and is the real flip-flopper on this and on other issues. To save America from more of the same( and to get Americans back to work ) I suggest voting for Romney.
If that's the case why doesn't he say so?
I suggest voting for Romney...if you want to go back to the same policies that didn't work during George W. Bush's two terms - privatize government services (that added millions to the cost of the war in Iraq) and cut taxes (ran up the debt and did not create jobs.)
Th economy has already added more jobs under three years of President Obama than it did under eight years of George Bush.
There wasn't near the need to create jobs in Bush's eight years as there is now. Had low unemployment and a semi-sound economy. That talking point is easy pickings for you liberals. And he didn't add the jobs unless you are talking public sector. The private sector and business added the jobs. Not the administration. All they can do is make for a favorable environment in which to do business. Business hired in spite of them. And if you look at it the right way, all those jobs more than likely existed and were being refilled by the people who did the laying off to begin with.
Amy - have you been drinking already today? It is much too early to be drunk.
Obama is averaging 97K jobs per month. Bush averaged 132K. Look it up and don't patronize me by asking me to show you where I got my numbers. They are in the public record.
rebelwcause, Bush 43 created a total of 3 million jobs in 8 years. President Obama has created 4.3 million in 27 months.
rebel, I did look it up, because that would be 12.7M jobs created in 8 years. In reality during his term only 3M jobs were created. That would be a 2.3% increase in jobs while the population increased by 7.7%.
By contrast Jimmy Carter, every Conservative's model of a "failed" President increased jobs by 13.1% while population increased by 4.3%. His net increase was 10.5M jobs, 3 times GW Bush's total in half the time.
You really want to brag about those numbers, reb? http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/01/09/bush-on-jobs-the-worst-track-record-on-record/
But the difference is -- Jody -- Bush had a "net" job increase added to the economy while President Hussein has a "net" job loss. Period. You will also find that the states where the jobs have purportedly been created under President Hussein are in RED states. I wonder why????
I suggest voting for President Obama.
Obama/Biden 2012
Elise: so you want 4 more years of expensive gasoline, unemployment, underwater mortgages, recession?
LETS deport the ones who DO NOT CARE about other HUMAN BEINGS but treat others as if they are MONEY and only MONEY !! To these SICKOS in Congress and Rompney the Clown that is exactly how AMERICANS ARE TREATED. They claim your FREEDOM as THEIR freedom to DICTATE !!
Well that is exactly what we have here! A Willard the RAT Romney and all his GOP and SHYSTER CONGRESS entourage. Out for themselves and the GREED of it all !!!
i am in it for the money, nor do i care about you - learn that and deal with it
joshua w morris
According to Willard and the Right Wingers on the Court Logic, Corporations are people. By this logic, aren't people also Corporations?
Let's just Nationalize all of the Corporations, then give them Republican Tax Breaks!
If you're so worried about Corporation influence, how exactly are unions treated?
You'd think with family in Mexico he'd have some thoughts on the subject of immigration since his family immigrated in and out of the US on numerous occasions.
Good point Suzq; and they did it to defy the American laws, so dear to the heart of the fringe right wing that marriage, as they claim is;
between one man and one woman!
So, teanuts, what excuse will you use to vote for Mittens who was raised to believe the opposite?
I believe he does have a sense. Latinos are a proud race. They are strong family units that understand if they are coming to America for hope and opportunity, that there must be laws. They are escaping countries where there is rampant lawlessness and don't want to enter the same. Why would they leave on dictator regime to go to another? Hispanics believe in traditional marriages and the rule of law.
The governor should not get involved in the heat of the moment was Hussein continues to insult various groups and races with trying to hinge their vote on a single issue.
My excuse is that i do not want Obama to have a second term, nor Pelosi (is she getting dementia?) return to the speakers chair. Ill vote for your horse in the picture if he has a reasonable chance of beating Obama, the man just cannot govern under a guiding principle, liberal or whatever. I dare you to identify his reason for being president. At least Romney says hes running because he wants to reverse everything OBama did, why is Obama there? is he hoping he finds a reason?
You got it newday....One Man and many women!.......
Does Willard know who his 'granny' really is?....He's got lots of kin still in Mexico!
He sure does, chilled. And I am curious how the "teabaggers" excuse that behavior since they seem to be so interested in what everyone else does.
Then, "Revenge" you have no moral core, and we must assume that the President's ethnicity or party affiliation (or both is the sum total of your objection to your President.
Same old garbage from newday and his ilk - one disagrees with President Obama's policies and he/she is automatically identified as a probable racist.
Yes, President Obama really is the great unifying force he claimed he was in 2008. If you have your head buried in the sand somewhere.
Hmmm, poor rebel: if someone says they would vote for my horse to avoid voting for your President, simply to nullify what the President did...
racist IS the first thing that comes to mind.
But, my horse is a good liberal. She knows that you work together to reach a goal, if you are harnessed with another horse and pull away from the traces, you get NOWHERE!
The "teabaggers" do not know the lesson that my horse learned when she was a filly.
I've wondered if Mitt's dad was an anchor baby. If you leave one country because you don't like it's laws and move to another, live and have children, then move back to the original country for making money - is that any different than what Mitt's family did?
So--according to Romney and the GNOP--the Pres should do nothing until after the election lest he be accused of being "political"??I hope he rubs their noses in it every day of the week. Obama 2012
opajack - President Obama should work through Congress to implement his recent immigration power grab by edict and then enforce the laws Congress passes.
But he is such a lousy executive he can't even negotiate effectively to get something on the table to be hashed out then passed. He couldn't even outline Obamacare effectively - he just passed it off to Reid and Pelosi with her increasingly declining mental capacity and told them to give him a Bill.
More nonsense, rebel. Overcoming a filibuster has never been a normal part of doing business until Republicans met in private ON INAUGURATION DAY to plan how to maximize their ability to obstruct the functioning of the government.
Blame it on "negotiating ability" all you want, success of the GOPTP depends on it. The facts of the matter are that Conservatives are deliberately negotiating in bad faith. In such situations it's normal to crank up the pressure. Guess you don't like that...too bad.
Wow Obama is truly the president for all people (except law abiding responsible citizens). Refusing to deport illegals for votes? What a great idea. I wonder how many votes he could get if he just pardoned pedophiles, made marijuana legal, Pardoned all the meth dealers, gave every pre-schooler a puppy and lower the voting age to 3, Abolished all right to work laws, etc. etc. etc. .. We just need to give Obama 4 more years to mandate thru Executive order his dream of irresponsibility for all!
Seriously Folks, Let's vote for a better leader who can lead this country not ruin it.... VOTE FOR CHANGE IN 2012!
Why don't you take the time to get facts instead of speaking from ignorance?
Who specifically was Obama talking about?
What did he actually say?
What will be done as a result?
EXTRA CREDIT: What party is suppressing Hispanic Americans' votes in 20 states?
Hmmmm
1. Illegals brought to America by thier illegal parents?
Extra credit: Suppressing votes? The Black Panthers...
How many illegals voted during the last election?
How many people did the Black Panthers prevent from voting?
Keep talking nonsense, UAW, we're all used to it by now.
Hey mark murray, how about (accurately) reporting on the ASTRONOMICAL NATIONAL DEBT????? Can we please see THAT in the headline for once?! Or is it too many digits to fit on the page?!
Great idea. I'm entirely in favor of accurately reporting how the Reagan and Bush tax cuts have destroyed the fiscal soundness of the US government. I'm totally OK with reporting on how it's impossible to balance the budget without an increase in revenue, and the entire GOPTP has signed a pledge to not do that.
That was what you had in mind, wasn't it?
What else is new in the game of politics?
However, to compare Romney's position in 2007 regarding immigration with a power grab in implementation of policy driven by politics as President Obama has done is ridiculous.
Let common sense be the guide to immigration policy. Welcome those who come here legally and deport those who are here illegally. And illegals deserve zero in the form of public assistance. That has to stop it is moronic.
This isn't brain surgery.
exactly rebel. its just the media trying to make up for obama's big blunder last friday. almost 9,000 comments on the deportation announcemnt and it appeared that a good 75% or more were mad at obama.
I find it laughable President Obama points out with pride on the stump that illegal immigration has fallen during his tenure. Because he is such a great enforcer of the law.
Our rotten economy is causal to those lower numbers. Just another example of how easy it is to make President Obama look the fool this election season.
Romney is correct in his statements.
Obama is incorrect.
Same as always. Whats the news here?
Romney
So that's why he wants to bring in people from India and Israel on Visa's to take are engineering jobs huh mr. rukidding47???!!!! In other words if we give them Visa's and they're working for 5.00 an hour then that's alright but if a little boy or girl has to be carried on there backs of the parents and come in the country illegally then it his or her fault and they should be deported immediately!!! I get it now if you make money for us you can stay but if your parents brought you here then and no matter what you've done or how good a person you've become we don't need you here sound kinda of two-faced to me but that's my opinion.
Willard has broken new ground and has changed the political paradigm.
He has worked hard to establish the fact that he has no moral substance, no core values.
Once the American voter accepts this as who and what he is, he can take any position on any subject, then he can spin 180 degrees and head in the opposite direction with no consequences.
This is Willard being Willard!
Brilliant!
WOW! You mean he's just like Prez-0!
He couldn't take this issue up any sooner! He was much too busy trying to fix up what the corrupt Republican OIL & FINANCIAL corporates messed up and ultimately brought on our ECONOMIC COLLAPSE! If it hadn't been for all the corruption & ZERO HELP from the Republican political puppet Congressmen, he may have had time to fix these other problems! Where have you been exlax ETCH-A-SKETCH? NOT ONLY "OUT OF TOUCH" with the American People, but "OUT OF TOUCH" with government otherwise, you wouldn't be making these irrational remarks! And you want to be our leader!
99% American People, vote 100% STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC and let's rid ourselves of the corrupt Republican corporate MONARCHY that has MADE SLAVES OF US!!
Really, TR? What drugs are you on? Do you honestly believe that? What is your take on the Democrats?
Do you honestly believe they will guarantee individual freedom? If so, how? Wasn't ObamaCare just a sellout to the Health Care Corporations?
SLAVES? Last I checked, I am no ones slave nor master. Fact is, if government (both the dems & the reps) has its way, we all will be enslaved to the State in a 'soft tyranny' version of the old Soviet Union.
...the bottom line is that Prez-0's announcement Friday on selectively enforcing immigration policy is in direct violation of constitutionally and congressionally passed federal law. Additionally, no President can create policies that ignore the US Constitution.
Look it up, if you do not think so.
Prez-0 does not give a damn about the US Constitution, the separation of powers therein or the Rule of Law - he only cares about getting reelected.
...and liberal lemmings will ignore the law just to see that he gets reelected.
If the citizens of the US have come to the point where it is "Party before Country" then America is already doomed.
Yet another winger that never , Actually read the Oath of Office .
Hate to break it to you, comrade, but it's the tea baggers in Congress who have said, in so many words, that they don't care what effect it has, they will block everything President Obama tries to do between now and the election.
...hate to break it to ya, children, but
A) Little Carpy, the oath states,
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
The immigration laws are PART OF THE CONSTITUTION! Please, Carp, buy a clue or something.
B) Mikey who is ZZZZZ in AZ - see comment A.
...lemmings...their minds are terrible things...a waste...
I forgot how juvenille these articles are written here at MSNBC. No substance no real point at all. I'm surprised they have the time to write anything on this site when they have Prez's D*&^K in their mouths 24/7. There's a huge difference between campaigning on immigration reform and violated law. But liberals are too stupid to tell the difference.
It's going to be nice to see Obama lose in a landslide this fall... :)
Thanks for contributing so much to the quality of debate...
Obama's bag of political tricks enacting this so called
"Dream Act" is really nothing different than what is already
happening in the United States. It's a safe move for Obama and
doesn't really change what's going on as far as allowing these illegals to
remain while they feed off our resources and continue to victimize legal
citizens needing work, especially our American youth who need to learn to work
and break away from there Iphones and joy sticks and start flipping hamburgers.
If illegals really wanted to be legal citizens they would have taken the steps
to legalize themselves once they were adults. But they want what all illegals
want, a handout at the expense of every legal American citizen. What Obama did
was to remember those Chicago mob antics and publicly state that it's okay to be a criminal and take from
legal citizens without expectation or any accountability. The criminal parents
who brought these illegal children into our country need to be fined for all
the years they were in the United States illegally with their illegal
offspring. After which they need to be swiftly deported without question never
to return unless they enter legally. Of course this is pandering... If you
believe that two illegals make a legal, then Obama is your president. And if
you believe that fully employed illegals are okay when we have millions of
unemployed legal citizens then Obama is your president. That makes no sense to
me so my vote must goes elsewhere!
This tricky move by Obama will also box in the Republicans
if Democrats lose the White House. For, Republicans will then have to put up or
shut up! If they do go ahead and dismantle this and other compassionate acts
put in place by Democrats, they'll ultimately be held responsible.
The real bottom line is Romney will change his mind to accommodate the audience kinda like the 'Etch-a Sketch" theory. Romney never answered the question if he would do away with the Obama doctrine of allowing children of undocumented workers to stay here if they are citizens or have complied with all the pre-requisites outlined by Obama. He's begun to him and haw over these issues, so he's just not sure how he would address this contentious issue. I believe it's more than decide the election, it is taking back our country from extremist. The main problem is getting everyone registered to vote in November. It has been my contention that the bigotry and prejudice have devastated decency in America just for one reason. Obama is a black man who won the presidency. Sam Donaldson hit it on the mark that "people do not oppose Obama on principles or politics, but merely because he's black."
Boy that really is some bang up journalism with a question that, if not at all probing,is at least bordering on a somewhat non-pointed and ridiculous question! Way to go Schieffer: "So he did it for politics?" If romney thought that President Obama should have done this prior to fixing the wrecked economy that the failed policies of the GOP left behind then he would have been complaining some other fake position and he would ha said that the economy is priority which President Obama turned the GOP recession into a recovery. The GOP endless wars into victories. Failures on the part of the GOP to protect the Nation and to "kill Osama Bin Laden" have been corrected with a our Nation protected and Osama Bin Laden is dead. The GOP wanted to let Detroit go bankrupt and President Obama and VP Biden and Secretary Geithner knew enough about history to understand that "as GM goes so goes the Nation." If romney had his way the Nation and GM would have been bankrupt and piece mealed out to the highest bidder for pennies on the dollar. Does romney not understand as "GM goes so goes the Nation?" Why would he want the Nation to go bankrupt? There is so much this administration has had to clean-up from the failed GOP policies. We cannot afford to go back. Look at Europe with their "austerity measures" in place. Is that what we want? Don't listen to the GOP they don't know what they are talking about. The GOP is so foolish when it comes to business that they want to keep on giving tax break after more tax breaks to the "job creators." Yet, the job creators have failed to produce even one net new job in over a decade. Why would we keep paying for something we never get? If the GOP wanted to buy a car you could convince them to keep making the monthly payments even though no car ever materializes. Just like those jobs that the GOP keeps insisting the "government doesn't create jobs the private sector does." Then they give a trillion dollars in freebies to the thieves who the GOP calls "job creators." The problem with the "job creators" is they never produce even one job that is over and above what already exists. I am the air creator pay me millions and I will continue to produce exactly the same amount of air that already exists. In fact I may just use some of the air for a net loss but don't worry the GOP will keep paying even if you don't produce anything whatsoever or even if you fail miserably then that entitles you to a several million dollar bonus or Golden Parachute.