I wasn't too far off when I posted this yesterday. Poor Romney had to burn the midnight oil to prepare for interviews this morning. Must have been a knuckle-biting sleepless night having to address immigration and having to face the nation on a non-Fox news program.

It was the right thing to do, and it was also a brilliant and shrewd political move. Caught poor Romney so off guard, he will be spending all weekend on damage control. Touche, Obama, you managed two birds with one stone, as the saying goes.

OH - Where is the coffee. Knuckle-biting, nail-wringing, hand-dragging; one day I'll get those body parts correct. Either way, in true right wing fashion, I am curious if he used a teleprompter, 3x5s, or the tried and true pen on palm note system.

Issues where Romney has yet to state his position:
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT – Said he is not familiar with the issue
PAYCHECK FAIRNESS ACT - Refused to say if he for or against
PAYROLL TAX HOLIDAY - I'm not going to throw gasoline on what is already a fire
MISSISSIPPI PERSONHOOD - Repeatedly refused to take a position on this bill
AFGHANISTAN - Leave it up to U.S. military commanders
IMMIGRATION - Still deciding what his position is and won't say if he will undo the EO

That's what he does. He STEALS democratic talking points, even ours here on First Read.

Like the as he ran last weekend which was plagiarized from a 2008 Obama ad!

Right down to the exact same music!

Feisty, I missed the ad but it doesn't surprise me.

Gotta love Republicans and their lingo, "long term reform", "save Medicare", "save Social Security".

All buzz words for cut, remove, or tighten.

Look for some phony boloney plan on immigration that doesn't give a path to citizenship, or if it does it will take 25 years, but will allow unlimited guest workers for the corporations.

Hi Michael1969 aka Mike in Delray aka Crystal aka............ are you going to stop adding logins anytime soon? Oh probably not.

He said he would focus on the economy. Is Romneycare in full FlipFlop mode already?

He also might know that even with a Republican majority in both Houses, the Presidency, and the Supreme Court, this failed miserably back in 2003. Or, maybe that tidbit is just another on the huge pile that Romneycare considers unimportant information.

Dennis, great post!

Mitten's GREAT ADVENTURE!

Mittens, who is more accustomed to the rarefied atmosphere at a Dressage Event, where other every day folks like he and little Annie gather with their Warmbloods, who go for the high six figures, was AMAZED when he saw a touch screen where he could order what?

HIS VERY OWN SANDWICH! MADE JUST THE WAY HE WANTS IT!

Will these miracles NEVER cease?

Why Mittens was stunned at the very convenience! He ordered a sandwich with chicken and bologna. He wanted to make sure that he was well fortified to continue to avoid any difficult questions on immigration, and bologna helps him to blather on, as though he were full of the same!

NewDayDawning: THE ARISTOCRATS

As millions tune into the Olympics in prime time this summer, just before Mr. Romney will be reintroducing himself to the nation at the Republican convention, viewers are likely to see “up close and personal” segments on NBC about the Romneys and dressage, a sport of six-figure horses and $1,000 saddles. The Romneys declared a loss of $77,000 on their 2010 tax returns for the share in the care and feeding of Rafalca, which Mrs. Romney owns with Mr. Ebeling’s wife, Amy, and a family friend, Beth Meyers.

So the Romneys wrote off more than $30,000 in horse-related losses last year than the average yearly household income.

What will happen to low income households if health care is overturned? Meanwhile, the Thurston Howells will hang out at the Olympics while Mrs. Obama continues with her work alongside Mrs. Biden with our veterans, trying to get them into the workforce. They already succeeded in getting them better health care.

Think Progress:

Kristol’s transformation, however, closely maps the GOP’s efforts to paper over their recent anti-immigrant positions as the November election draws nigh. During the primary, GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney campaigned with the former hate group attorney that wrote Arizona and Alabama’s harsh immigration laws — on Martin Luther King Day. This morning, however, Romney twice refused to say whether he would reverse Obama’s recently announced pro-immigrant policy. As Kristol put it this morning on Fox, the Republican standard bearer’s hardline past on immigration is a “big problem for Romney.”

Pat: isn't that the dirty little secret? So much of the costs can be written off. Rafalco spends his time with trainers, in a stable being bored out of his mind with schooling. Annie and Mittens have NOTHING to do with the success of this horse, except write checks. This horse would not know them.

Mine on the other hand, was born and raised on our place. First person she saw was me. First person on her back was my daughter. When she was grown enough, her schooling was MINE to do.

And when I whistle, she comes, from wherever she is in the pasture.

NewDayDawning, it is all about the trainers with her horse. No question.

As you said - they just write the checks. As always.

I'll take Romney's vow to solve the immigration problem in the same light that I take his support of a women's right to choose. It's...uh...fluid. Romney has a very troubled relationship with the truth. You might say they're estranged.

Go out and have a barbecue or something. Of course go to Church first.

What is it with these right-wing nut jobs and their utter fascination in telling other people what to do? Romney tells us we have to borrow money from mom/dad, get an education, get a job, get married, and make babies. This one tells us it's Sunday, so go to church and have a BBQ. This from the same crowd that screams when they are told they have to take responsibility and pay their fair share by purchasing health insurance.

so go to church

I did go to church this morning...

I worship at the church of Saint Mattress!

Nothing like not having to wake up to the alarm clock! ☺

ConcernedCitizen,

Thanks for reminding me about Father's Day...My dad's passed away. This WAS a nice diversion. Hope you enjoy your barbeque...

I worship at the church of Saint Mattress!

Nice - and nothing better by following it up with a leisurely visit to "Our Lady of St. Mimosa".

Immigration reform! How about enforcing what is already on the books first?

Mitt Romney would pursue some type of comprehensive, long-term reform to America's immigration system, the former Massachusetts governor and his supporters said on Sunday

Of course. Mitt Romney could not do any less. He "promises" to do this. Someday over the rainbow..

Never mind that the Republican Congress had AGAIN to be bypassed to pass this reform. The GOP does not mind taking us to the cliff, as long as it serves it's purpose. They are determined to win the election, whatever it takes.

OBAMA 2012

It was not too long ago that Romney said he would repeal the immigration reform law and deport all illegal immigrants. But today he sings a different song called, "Flip Flop". More lying politics anyone? Of course, it seems as if the Democrats have been doing the same lately. Who said, "The truth shall prevail?"

OF COURSE Rommel will bring in $7.00 A DAY illegals much like KingGeorge the VacuumBrained tried to have "Guest Workers" come here for $1.00 per/hour during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001-2008. Here Is What You should know: PhantomBeast Has a SHOCKER for All Of US. Prez O is "A New Order" MOLE. That is Correct; a Mole for the 1%ers Riches and Corporate/Police State Controllers, WHO ARE NOW going to fill our skies with Attack Drones like those used in these ruinous Middle East Wars; don't believe it?? Yahoo/Google it: "Attack drones to operate in American skies". You say the wrong thing or rouse "the Rabble"? ZOOM-Bang You are GONE. Prez O IS SUPPOSED To Lose to Rommel and Goebbels of the republicanCrimeCartel which is THE essential vehicle of American Socio/Economic order Transfer into an Indentured labor nation which brings in $7.00Per/Day "Illegal labor" coming accross the border so the Elite Wealthy and Corporations can compete with globally produced products for a Rapidly Shrinking Consumer Base, and THE EVIL RICH here can profit from American Products made from American Worker Slave Labor. Has Not Prez O cut "unusual deals" with the "Health Insurance Industry"? WHILE We see The Other Nations TAKE CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS with their Universal healthCare Systems. And That shaking hands with the other Politophile Karzai of afghan and pledging 10 more years to his 1stCenturyIslamicCountry is VERY Suspicious. Face It Sister and Brother Americans: There is only One Obvious Choice Short of A New Armed American Revolution. Yeah Ron Paul looks like a beat up tired old guy, but his thoughts are New Age

PhantomBeast Has a SHOCKER for All Of US. Prez O is "A New Order" MOLE. That is Correct; a Mole for the 1%ers Riches and Corporate/Police State Controllers, WHO ARE NOW going to fill our skies with Attack Drones like those used in these ruinous Middle East Wars; don't believe it?? Yahoo/Google it: "Attack drones to operate in American skies". You say the wrong thing or rouse "the Rabble"? ZOOM-Bang You are GONE. Prez O is supposed to lose to Rommel and Goebbels of the republicanCrimeCartel which is THE essential vehicle of American Socio/Economic order Transfer into an Indentured labor nation which brings in $7.00Per/Day "Illegal labor" coming accross the border so the Elite Wealthy and Corporations can compete with globally produced products for a Rapidly Shrinking Consumer Base, and THE EVIL RICH here can profit from American Products made from American Worker Slave Labor. Has Not Prez O cut "unusual deals" with the "Health Insurance Industry"? WHILE We see The Other Nations TAKE CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS with their Universal healthCare Systems. And That shaking hands with the other Politophile Karzai of afghan and pledging 10 more years to his 1stCenturyIslamicCountry is VERY Suspicious. Face It Sister and Brother Americans: There is only One Obvious Choice Short of A New Armed American Revolution. Yeah Ron Paul looks like a beat up tired old guy, but his thoughts are New Age

To SKOR 154: WELL SAID, And You should see their Hordes at Walmart in Oxnard, Ca. OMG!!! They come here from MEXICO in Armies, Get Social Services Money, buy out all the best medicine, food AND DIAPERS and Leave empty shelves Like Hordes of Locusts, Which they are!!!As they are Pushing "new Arrivals" in their strollers; Little Mexican Anchor Babies ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!!!these Mexican Women Are Baby Factories And MoonBeam Jerry is giving them Free College Education, Room and Board, Food allowance, Transportation, Tuition, Books,and Spending Money which we taxpayers have to Pony Up as the southern california COPS prey on decent and good law abiding citizens with DREAMED UP Traffic Citations for $150 - $1000. Once they get through the border "gauntlet" which is a farce; just walk accross accross and "Feed Your Face AT Jerry's Place. How is America going to survive this once we know THIS: PhantomBeast Has a SHOCKER for All Of US. Prez O is "A New Order" MOLE. That is Correct; a Mole for the 1%ers Riches and Corporate/Police State Controllers, WHO ARE NOW going to fill our skies with Attack Drones like those used in the ruinous Middle East Wars; don't believe it?? Yahoo/Google it: "Attack drones to operate in American skies". You say the wrong thing or rouse "the Rabble"? ZOOM-Bang You are GONE. Prez O is supposed to lose to Rommel and Goebbels of the republicanCrimeCartel which is THE essential vehicle of American Socio/Economic order Transfer into an Indentured labor nation which brings in $7.00Per/Day "Illegal labor" coming accross the border so the Elite Wealthy and Corporations can compete with globally produced products for a Rapidly Shrinking Consumer Base, and THE EVIL RICH here can profit from American Products made from American Worker Slave Labor. Has Not Prez O cut "unusual deals" with the "Health Insurance Industry"? WHILE We see The Other Nations TAKE CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS with their Universal healthCare Systems. And That shaking hands with the other Politophile Karzai of afghan and pledging 10 more years to his 1stCenturyIslamicCountry is VERY Suspicious. Face It Sister and Brother Americans: There is only One Obvious Choice Short of A New Armed American Revolution. Yeah Ron Paul looks like a beat up tired old guy, but his thoughts are New Age

Exactly what this nation needs. More and more populations of planet gobbling breeders.

Do you realize that he is talking about the children that have been living here ALREADY? It does not matter what you think of them; they are here TO STAY, and it would be better that they contribute with taxes to the economy by turning them into LEGAL citizens.

Stop pretending that you can come with a magic wand that will make all these people disappear. Many of them are actually very good students, not drug addicts, and interested in working hard, just like the parents. It's likely that they will not be the type of people that would be a burden to society.

This is perfect. President Obama has forced Mitt to actually take a position on something. All we've gotten up until now is is Obama is for it I'm against it.

He's unfamiliar with so many issues before this country yet people keep giving him a pass because he's not President Obama. That is by far the most ignorant reason to vote for somebody. It works well if you're an incredibly lazy person and don't want to actually make the effort to study all the issues. What is he going to do when things get serious and he's asked to actually state a position during the debates? Telling everybody that he'll tell them after he get's elected won't do it for him. That is where President Obama will kick his over privileged butt.

Exactly what this nation needs. More and more populations of planet gobbling breeders

I get it now! You are talking about the MORMONS. Go and see HOW MANY CHILDREN each mormon has. Not less than 5.

Pat Boston MA......with that kind of write off, it is actually the tax paying working stiffs that are writing the check for the horsey set.

@Irespond

You are so correct. They pop them out like little (not)Christian PEZ Dispensers. They treat their women like brood mares.

The U.S. already has a path to citizenship to the tune of 1 Million LEGAL immigrants every year. What is being proposed is to REFUSE TO ENFORCE OUR MOST-GENEROUS-IN-THE-WORLD-LAWS! That is UNACCEPTABLE TO MOST AMERICANS. Americans (including this Democrat) do not support special treatment and rewards for immigration lawbreaking! And, Obama's plan will be a deal-breaker in 2012!

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!

The sharply dressed and stately crested President came riding proudly into town atop a stubborn but digressive steed on Sunday.

Like I said earlier - Obama's plan is very similar to the one Rubio endorses. Romney, et al are just pissed that they weren't able to make the announcement first and get some creds with the Latino population. You bigot/bully's who think Obama is so Un-American for supporting immigration reform should realize that this was coming regardless of who was in office. Timing is everything.

A GOVERNMENT WHICH REFUSES TO ENFORCE ITS OWN LAWS IS INTOLERABLE!

How many times have you paid a speeding fine? How many times have you driven over the speed limit? Do you see your own hypocrisy?

You bigot/bully's who think Obama is so Un-American for supporting immigration reform should realize that this was coming regardless of who was in office. Timing is everything.

Just as the so-called Obamacare is Romney's plan, and one that many Republicans endorsed till Obama actually started work on getting it passed.

I think the Mexicans who were not born in this country and all other illegals, should have to do it the way everyone else has to do it. Come into this country with a passport and seek to become a citizen and there should be a requirement that everyone should speak and understand English, period. A an Anglo, I can tell you that Obama's little @!$%# kicking liberal crap doesn't hold water. He can do what he wants but when other Mexicans, legals, and others who have come into this country legally and sought citizenship hear about his new policy about illegals, he will play hell getting their vote in November. We all want to see these people prove that this is where they want to live and become productive members of society. So far, they all want a free ride including education, medical and no taxes. Kick them all out.

Feisty - You go to the same church I go to! I also attend the chapel of backyard bird feeders

Maureen - Or they could just come over, kill all the people they can, spread disease and then heard the rest of us Americans on to reservations to insure that we live in poverty and humiliation. Too bad the Indians weren't able to do a better job of kicking the white man's ass.

Romney’s like a wind sock he points in whatever direction the wind is blowing at the moment. I stopped listening to this serial liar a long time ago but apparently many people are still being taken in by his Karl Rove style of spin and deception. I mean seriously folks would any of you even buy a used car from this guy?

Michael1969...Phanthombeast........

"It is a small man that uses rudeness thinking he is showing strength"

President Obama/Biden 2012

@RedDevPS

Poor Romney had to burn the midnight oil to prepare for interviews this morning. Must have been a knuckle-biting sleepless night having to address immigration ...

So where is your criticism of President Obama for doing basically the same thing. Rubio is already working on actual legislation that would accomplish much the same thing. With a book coming out on Monday all of the attention over this issue would have gone to Rubio and the republicans. So Obama sticks his nose up at our system of government solely for the purpose of stealing the spotlight. Re-election is the only thing on his mind. He will do anything to pander to those whose votes he needs just like he did in 08. Hard to criticize Romney for doing it if you aren't even more critical of our President. After all, Romney's just a candidate without any power, Obama is the President pushing policy that has no purpose other than to buy votes.

Romney quote from above story........"He said that question would be rendered moot — "overtaken by events," he said — by the long-term solution he would instead put in place."

In other words he has no plan. Like every thing he whines about, ask him for his solution...he has none. First deport, now flip flop..."rendered moot" ........huh? Flip Flop Mitt once more!

I am so sick and tired of these politicians using the Hispanics or African Americans for their politicial gain. These people (voters) better wake up.!!!!!!! For the Politicians and our Government why don't you morons control and secure our borders First, Dont you elected officials comprehend that? If any illegal immigrant wants to be a part of this country then learn english and serve the military for 3-4 years to earn your rights in the USA but to offer these illegals speacial fringe benefits on tax payers dime, that I am totally against. The law is the law and these politicians better shape up or be voted out.

@phantombeast,LOL you are a Freaking joke.

Annie and Mittens have NOTHING to do with the success of this horse, except write checks

Illustrating the "talent" of most of corporate Americas execs.

This is war between the peace loving American citizens and the drug pushing, border jumping, Mexicans who want to steal US resources.

Long term solution: Round up and deport squatters.

Bush Jr went to Beijing Olympics and made a complete fool of himself. Do U Tube search on President Bush drunk at Olympics. Shows him as a heckler during women's volleyball game. People poured out their sympathy for Bush being heckled, while he was a drunk heckler himself! Mittster will show up at Olympic event for photo ops for sure then will deduct it all as a business expense.

The ONLY immigration reform that should be done and will ever make any sense will be when the US stops the anchor baby BS. Enough of this already! Babies born of illegal immigrants should NOT be automatic American Citizens. This is the dumbest blip in the constitution and needs to be changed. Are our politician that stupid that they cant understand this or see it? They know! But why they aren't acting on this? This dumb a$$ country............

Romney 2012! Wake up Americans! At least Romeny isn't a commie and hates America like Obama does.

Here is what Mr. Obama said last year:

“With respect to the notion that I could suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case, because there are laws on the books that Congress has passed and I know that everybody here
at Bell is studying hard so you know we have three branches of government. Congresses passes the law. The executive branch's job is to enforce and implement those laws and then the judiciary has to interpret the law. There are enough laws on the books by Congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system, that for me through simply an executive order ignore those mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as president.” - President Barak Obama, in March of 2011.

The problem with Romney is can't tell the truth, one minute he says he would deport everyone who is here illegally, then today he would have some type of immigration reform, can't wait for that one. He talks about Obama and jobs, maybe he should look at his record in MA, ranked 37th in the nation when he left. He says Obama is out of touch, well, to me Romeny is out of touch, the middle class is the core of this economy, we need to make descent wages, we will spend, the businesses will hire and our economy will take off. Oh lets not forget the poor, "I'm not worried about the poor, their are safety nets". All Romney wants to do is get rid of govt. job(more job loses), give more tax breaks for those making $200, 000 year, while the rest of us will be taxed to death, I thought the good old boys hated taxes(Norquist).

The people have to decide who to vote for, are you for the rich or middle class, tax the middle class, poor, seniors, disabled, or tax breaks for the rich, deport or not deport immigrants, keep plan parenthood open to help those who do not have insurance, or get rid of the all together, end all wars and bring our troops home, or just let the commanders figure it our(Romney quote), Obama's job bill which would put thousands of teacher, policemen, firefighter, construction workers back to work and it would help businesses thrive, or like Romeny said, we don't need anymore teachers, policemen, firefighters this President is so out of touch I thought he wanted to put people back to work, maybe he will flip flop on this somewhere along the line.

Don't forget Congress, the do nothing, party of NO, and the ones who said they would not pass one single bill until after the election(Repub. & teaparty promise), sounds like they are keeping their promise, they will do everything no matter who it hurts just as long as Obama is a one term President, makes me wonder if they are deliberately trying to sabatoge the economy, jobs ect...

This is how bad it is, I have a REPUBLICAN friend that hates Obama he refers to him as that Monkey, but he aired his discontent with the Republican agenda and said even though he hates Obama he intends to vote Obama and I asked why would you do that, he said Romney would finish what BUSH started and totally destroy America, and I asked if he had a problem with Romney being a MORMON he said religion is not the problem, he said Romney has NO COMPASSION and anyone that can find humor in firing people will never get his vote. And he said he has never vote for any Democrat and this year will be his first, How's that for being so discouraged, but then this guy is very smart and I respect him for using his brain and not just voting party lines ....

KimH...wrote..."Too bad the Indians weren't able to do a better job of kicking the white man's ass.

If you knew anything about Native American history, you would know that all tribes made war against each other, killing each other, torturing and mutilating each other, and taking taking captives/slave of each other. Indian lifestyles all were based upon survival of the fittest, where all males were raised to kill as many enemies as they could. The more kills/coups of the natives the higher the status was among the tribe/band, which gave them certain rights like marrying. The U.S. was not perfect...however the Native Americans were much worse between themselves the the U.S. government.

"Comprehensive" = "mass deportations of tens of millions" according to the GOP..

President Obama was 100% clear in what he said. To bad the GOP are all old and foggy and can't hear anymore. President Obama said, this is NOT a path to amnesty. Not a path to citizenship.. So what is the problem?

The GOP think that by making anyone and everyone who doesn't kowtow to them, illegal in one way or another. If you're gay, well the GOP will find a way to make them 3/5th of a person, like the olden days. "wink wink" right McCain..

Mittens thinks CONgress will actually work with him. LMAO.. There are 535 individuals who don't give a rats ass about this nation or anyone else but themselves. CONgress, especially the House of Misrepresentation should go back to part time work, like it used to be.

A Wormney Presidency would bring war with Iran, which will bring war with China and Russia. A Wormney Presidency would bring unemployment of 10%+ by the end of year 1. Gas would be $8-$12/gallon within the first year and shortly after the Iranian invasion led by lies propagated by Israel. They dragged us into 9-11 & Iraq.. It was Israels lies to Colin Powell and the UN that led to our misguided attempts to tie 9-11 & Iraq together.. A Wormney Presidency would also have him running the Mormon church from inside the WH. A Wormney Presidency would end America and this fragile recovery.

Wormney or Obama. The choice is clear. One cares about America and her people. One cares about cash and profits, Hate and intimidation. One cares about putting people back to work without strings. The GOP only want to give jobs to the poor and middle-class if and ONLY if the rich get the permanent tax cuts.. The GOP or Gods Only People care about war and hatred and control.. They care more about morality and the unborn than they care about reality and the already living.

"This was obviously a way to divert attention from very bad news the president has received the last three or four weeks,"

No kidding. Obama has failed miserably on the economy and jobs, so his strategy is to divert attention with a 'manufactured' issue.

Romney got burned, I asked this very question just a few hours ago. How can you vote for Romney now?

What Romney REALLY is about....a liar

Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office for Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’

By Eric Scheiner
October 19, 2011
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(CNSNews.com)- During last night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nev., former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney admitted that a lawn company he had used hired illegal immigrants and that when he found out he told the company it could not have illegal aliens working on his property because he was running for office.

His word is "SEEK" like I have the slightest idea what to do..then why ask to run the country..on just one simple matter for the USA????

Obama has failed miserably on the economy and jobs, so his strategy is to divert attention with a 'manufactured' issue.

the issue was "manufactured" by Republicans. They have use illegal immigration issues any time THEY want to divert attention from the 4.2 million jobs that were created due to Obama policy the downward trending UI the lower rate of spending, the lower deficit than when he took office.

Thats how the "illegals taking all our jobs" came about.

Obama has been highly successful, especially in the face of our traitorous right wing who has decided to try and bully their way back into power.

Whew thank god was getting worried for Obama. He finally has been able to get the conversation off of the economy and on to something else. He failed with Gay Marriage, but succeeds by changing the subject to immigration reform.

Never changed my mind the least have always been for Obama. I just had to jump in here It was just on the News Mrs. Obama comes from white heritage. That will Have you Republicans spinning in your graves. LOL!

But, Seriously, where in your tiny little minds do you get the idea that a man that cost people their job, homes, and just about ruined the state Of Mass. Created no jobs and increased the states sales tax. He is the biggest contributer to the jobless market and than says how pathetic it is that people are not working. He's a 2 faced work of art. Go ahead you'll will only shoot off your own foot and when you start bitchin about him I will be right here to rub your nose in it.

President Obama has not failed in anything he has done. Repubs pledged to bring the economy down the day after his election. Never in history has this happened before. Repubs pledged that they needed to act the way the Taliban does, to act like the insurgents to take the economy down to make President Obama a one term president. Repubs planned just like Bin Laden wrote in his plan, take the american economy down to destroy the nation. 14-15 repubs...just like...BIN LADEN. Ref: Richard Draper new book.

Romney has no substance. He constantly proves he can not stick to a position and support a decision. It constantly amuses me, he thinks the public forgets the things he says and actions he has taken. One day he "Flips" and the next he "Flops".

No thanks....

Kimberly, don't you mean Obama. He flips and flops on gay marriage, immigration policy, gitmo, debt ceiling, Patriot Act, most open adminstration...

timmillinois, latest theory is Fiesty is not a person, but rather either an arm of MSNBC or the Obama campaign. How else does "she" get the first post almost all the time, including stories that most in the middle of the night, days, weekends, holidays...its hard to imagine any person sitting on MSNBC all day and night waiting to post a comment.

Chuck1968

They have use illegal immigration issues any time THEY want to divert attention from the 4.2 million jobs that were created due to Obama policy the downward trending UI the lower rate of spending,

What you don't understand is that job growth is required just to maintain current levels of unemployment. Republicans sure as hell do not want to divert away from the 4.2 million jobs because that level of growth is literally the minimum required. That is why those 4.2 million jobs has not lowered the unemployment rate one bit. Basically the job growth under Obama is anemic and you can bet the republicans will focus on it even if some people are naive enough to be conned into believing it is a positive.

...the lower deficit than when he took office.

Here's your problem, you listen to politicians. Lower deficit? Deficit spending is at an all time high, literally unprecedented levels. Bush averaged 410 billion per year in deficit spending Obama has jacked that up to well past 1 trillion per year, double hat Bush was doing. Here's the trick, Bush increased deficit spending by well more than double what Clinton was doing so that's how they con you. Bush increased it by say 4 times as much whereas Obama "only" increased it by 2 times as much. Do you really think that is the same thing as a "lower deficit"?? Of course you don't. no one could be that stupid after they actually see how the numbers con works.

Kumar

You are probably correct, but if this is a real person from Roselle, That is up in liberalville!

We don't need any reform, what we need is our laws to be upheld! Neither of these two idiots should be President. I would rather have someone that change laws just to get votes or satisfy their wives or kids. Laws are made for a reason. Enforce them! If you feel it necessary to come up with new laws, put them to a vote where we can decide if your ideas will work for (us) American Citizens! We shouldn't be imposing our Constitution on citizens from other countries.

Hey Michael1969, I sure hope Willard has on those "magic underwear" that Mormons wear after getting married because when he sees the results coming in on 11/6 and Obama has won Nevada, Florida, Ohio & Colorado, I wouldn't want the $-hit running down his leg. watch, before the election, the truth is going to come out about Willard and that "Cult" he belongs to. The Right wing was so worried about Obama going to Rev Wright's Church but at least it was a Christian Church. Check out what Romney believes in. Jesus & Satan are Brothers!!!! Magic Underwear, Your own "world" when you die, populated by you. Any of that sound anywhere near Christian Dogma to you? Don't allow your hatred for a black man blind you to the truth and vote in someone that is not even close to our faith.

Some of these post merit a idiot badge. To support Obama who has put us more into debt then any president in the history of the U.S. is moronic, to state that somehow Obama is firm in his beliefs and Romney is any different is dumb because both change according to what will give them the best votes (oh wait, Obama according to the press that is so far up his a$$ he does not change he evolves in his thinking), I do not think that Romney will have a hit list like Obama (funny how the press leaves that alone, but if Bush had such a list they would have gone crazy. Nothing but a bunch of hypocrites). In regards toward immigration if anyone believes that Obama did this for any other reason then political is both stupid and needs some new brain cells (the truth is Obama cares for nothing but Obama).

What we need to ask if we can handle another 5 to 10 trillion debt load (I believe Obama will do everything in his power to bury us so far in debt it will ruin us because he will not worry about reelection but rather pushing his liberal agenda down our throats if we like it or not), can we maintain our current unemployment rate (and this will go up much further if these illegals that he is rewarding for breaking the law and trespassing into our country have their numbers counted), last- without being held back by a possibility of reelection I am worried that Obama will ignore the constitution that he supposedly taught (even though he seems to know nothing about it), and will skirt it at every attempt to take away our rights and put more czars that are put into power outside the confines of the constitution to dictate how we eat, what we watch and start to infringe on other parts of our lives. Personally I do not think we can handle another four years and stay a viable country, Obama if given his way will turn us into another once great country now on the verge of a third world country (look at the European countries he so much wants to set on the same path as, they are all at the door of financial ruin and anarchy).

Kumar-889209:

Isn't it strange that Fiesty RedHead Roselle almost always posts first. It doesn't matter what day or time (even when MSNBC posts a story when it is middle of the night in the USA), she almost always posts first. I just wonder if she is a real person or if its really MSNBC that posts support for Obama on every political story. She (or rather they) are most likely an arm of MSNBC or the Obama campaign

Fiesty RedHead Roselle is Ed S. from the 'Ed Show' on MSNBC.

Kumar and Timlmillinois or whatever the hell your name is. Why don't you guys actually join the conversation instead of being stupid?

I agree with you Tbenton, some of these posts deserve an idiot badge.

What's astonishing to me is that everyone spins EVERYTHING according to the results they want to elicit. Very few posted what the REAL issue is in immigration. WE NEED TO CLOSE AND CONTROL OUR BORDERS! Then, and only then, can we deal with how to fix the cultural and immigration problems in the US. Do I think we should deport the kids of parents who came here illegally, when it's no fault of their own? Nope, and it wouldn't solve the problem anyway. The fact that Obama hasn't taken steps to actually control our borders shows he is as ineffective as all other Presidents, Democratic or Republican on this issue.

Wonderful how Obama took Rubio's ideas as his own and pre-empted him, all in the name of politics and re-election. Wow, just wow, but he didn't come up with his own policies for this issue.

I'm hoping Romney kicks Obama out of office, for the simple reason that we can't afford (or I should say my kids can't afford) four more years of him, especially when he wouldn't be worried about re-election.

Byron Raum (#1.41) said:

How many times have you paid a speeding fine? How many times have you driven over the speed limit? Do you see your own hypocrisy?

EVERY TIME I'M CAUGHT AND RECEIVE A TICKET, I HAVE TO PAY IT. By your very own analogy, when ILLEGAL FOREIGN NATIONALS are caught, they should be detained and deported. YOU ARE THE HYPOCRITE BYRON! Your very own analogy proves my point!

How DARE any one of you call Good ol' Mr. Romney a flip flopper or even imply as such. When it is clear he is a liar. A pathological liar driven in total by his insecurities. Unable to even stand on principal let alone sit on it or have a stand to take he reverts to the moment. What he thinks will make the sale in the moment. Hes comfortable lying out the front back and side of his mouth all at the same time.

I am quite tired of so called "journalist" acting as though it is ok to lie. Never calling anyone on lies told let alone this man. A supposed religious man who lies through his teeth. When a regular joe does it its a lie but we are to be brainwashed into believing politicians are simply flip flopping or changing a position. He lies period my friends. [.]...

He is NOTHING more then a gangster who used to "bust out" companies as a vulture capitalist willing to do and say anything for a buck. Make no mistake Bain did nothing more then what the mob does when people owe money and cannot pay.. ; ]

Cheers

Mr. Obama is a flip-flopper. What he said in March 2011 and June 2012 about presidential authority via His Personal Fiat are contridictory. First he said the Constitution did not allow him to rule via Executive Order, and now he does it.

romney has more experience screwing americans in the private sector.yet president obama has shown he can follow orders thus screwing american labor too.look at his free trade/outsourcing treaties and his new open the door policy to increased illegal alien labor competition.im sure the millions of unemployed americans strongly support more competition in the labor market.the important thing to remember as your cashing that last unemployment check is your getting things cheaper because an american lost his job

ps if you want to stop illegal aliens just get the people at the dmv to process their paper work.theyll be held for years

Starsailing

If you knew anything about Native American history,

My comment was somewhat metaphorical in response to Maureen's rather superior rant about how wonderful Anglo s are.

Fact of the matter

I think you should crawl under a rock with Feisty and all the other tax robbing liberals that are posting on this page! You people always want to blame the other guy but the fact is Obama voted for everything that he has "inhereted" when the Democrats controled the House and Senate during the last two years of the Bush administration. Don't even play the "Give me the proof" BS, get off your liberal ass and do the research yourself. Oh I forgot, you need other people to do everything for you!

KIM H...My bad........True about Native relationship between each other...but I missed your meaning....mea culpa..etc. Hey but note my Texan rant...below...Texas..belonged to.....who before it became Texas?

Obama vote three times against Bush immigration reform, Obama never have layout a plan to a comprehensive solution to our immigrations problems. He is putting a band-aid in the middle of an open wound, this is just cheap politic to buy Latino votes in swing states. This is hypocritical and goes against his base , the young African American, whose level of unemployment is over 20%. Romney is "evolving" his position about immigration , however he never was against a comprehensive reform , he only demand close the border first, status verification from employers and deport the bad guys. Obama fix is nothing more then a copy of STAR from Marco Rubio , nothing close to Dream Act.

There doesn't need to be immigration reform, just follow the laws that are already on the books. Every election year all you hear is "I promise immigration reform during my administration", just to get votes, then after the election back to the same old BS. I have no problem with anyone who wants to immigrate to the republic of the US. Just do it legally and through proper channels. As for illegals, arrest and deport them as soon as arrested. Quit playing the political game with our country(That was to the congressmen)

PS: Learn to speak english should be required. IMO

Against Union Thievery:

Very stupid comment by an obviously stupid idiot.

I worship at the church of Saint Mattress!

Oh Feisty!!! You're such a madcap.

Mitt Romney and Republicans think they're bullies, but they run and hide when confronted.

That makes them cowards.

Well, the hate filled liberal left is most definitely out in force tonight!

Like the republican guy said when Romney won the repub nomination, "everyone should like Romney he has been on both sides of every issue at one time or another!" Mitt , even the repubs call him a flip flopper.!

I think way too much attention is paid to Feisty. Do I care if she's always the first to post or that she is so volatile in her comments? Nope. If we all razed her, MSNBC would just come out with someone named "First in Line", "Connected" or "Just tell me what I need to write", (tongue in cheek). Have fun "Feisty".

"What I would do, is I’d make sure that by coming into office, I would work with Congress to put in place a long-term solution for the children of those that have come here illegally," Romney said Sunday on "Face the Nation."

A top surrogate of Romney's, Arizona Sen. John McCain, went slightly further. Romney was "certainly willing to address that issue and immigration reform in a comprehensive way," McCain said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

That's political-speak for "I have no idea what I'm going to do, but I do plan to look good doing it".

Romney flop-flop and Obama evolve. What a joke are those lefties pretending to make different to Obama's flip-flops .

Well, the hate filled liberal left is most definitely out in force tonight

Is desperation because Obama is losing, one year ago he got 60% aproval , now 48% , he is losing ground , Romney after the primaries is moving up. Nothing work for obama , not even is statement about "private industry is doing fine" , only in his liberal mind.

I just can't believe how simple minded you Obama lovers are. I can just picture each of you gathered around Obama saying "yes sur massa, whatever you say."

Howllen

at least Romney isn't a whiner

No, Romney is not a whiner...but he is a shiner. He likes to shine everyone into thinking that he actually gives a damn about the average U.S. Citizen.

skor154 said

We should focus on quality and not quantity.

Yes, I know skor was referring to people, "illegals" in particular, but how about a slight paraphrasing of the statement, and use it to refer to the one thing that is always uppermost in the mind and heart of every die-hard, hard-core Capitalist Reich-winger:

We should focus on quality of life and not cost.

Obama has consistently lied in the past and the present for political gain. No question about that!!!!!! He feels the need to address illegals in this country? What about ten's of thousands of people who have had their papers held up because the Obama administration refuses to do something about them?

Is it right for anyone and I mean ANYONE to circumvent the laws of this country? Would these children who are here illegally give up their parents for citizenship? Of course not! So it makes sense, that these children of illegal immigrants are still benefiting regardless. The parents can still come here without any repurcussions. It doesn't deal with the immigration problem at all; only puts it away until after the re-election.

Obama caters to the hispanic vote, and doesn't care about the rest of the country!!!!!!

Wake up Mr. President! Your foolish laws mean nothing to us!!!!!! We are only biding our time till November!!!!!!!!

This is just more MSNBC garbage to take heat off the President and everyone knows it!!!!!!!

phantombeast, ALL politicians are liars. they promise the moon and the stars just to get the votes, once they are in office they do all the contrary of what they promised before.

see how many republican trolls despise feisty.he/she must be doing something right

@floyd with you being a limbaugh lover.youve got some never calling anyone else simple minded

Maureen-2162031

I think the Mexicans who were not born in this country and all other illegals, should have to do it the way everyone else has to do it. Come into this country with a passport and seek to become a citizen and there should be a requirement that everyone should speak and understand English, period.

Ok, Maureen, then everyone who vacations in any European country, or travels through what is called "Indian Country" here in the "Western Hemisphere" (we call the "Reservations"; they are actually lands reserved via Treaty for the use of Sovereign Nations) should be REQUIRED to have a passport AND speak and understand the language of the country they happen to be in. Here's a hint for ya, Maureen:

In "Indian Country", there are more than 50 languages, and an average of more than three separate dialects for each of those languages. Good luck next time you decide to drive anywhere in the U.S.A and HAVE TO use a road that just happens to go through an Indian Reservation, Maureen.

p.s., There are no "Mexicans" living the U.S. who were born in the U.S. because EVERYONE born in the U.S. is a U.S. Citizen. Look it up in the Constitution of The United States of America.

Feisty doesn't belong on this newsvine. It should be off limits to those who work for MSNBC.

As for everything else, my cousin will finally be coming to this country after waiting 15 years for her papers. The first thing I'm going to tell her after she gets her citizenship is why it took so long. How the Obama administration/democrats wanted to screw her out of her American Dream because they felt that it was easier to deal with those who came to this country illegally rather than having law abiding citizens come first.

She's going to find out the hard way that only stupid people obey the law while the rest of the immigrants are no different than the politicians. It's all done for votes!!!!

A great many goper's have taken to The Slow Rush's NEW argument that the "left" is panicking. I do not see panic anywhere but from The Slow Rush's right. ; ] You see why would there be any need to panic? Hmm. Women, Hispanic, Blacks, Indians, and college educated people in general are not voting gop my friends. True enough Mr. Romney is out raising President Obama in cash super pacs. Even when they all cried loudly about President Obamas billions in cash on hand. But where is it? Who knows.

What I do know is Mr. Romney is already done. The choice is made and history already written. And although such a lack luster candidate that BARELY won his electorate has been chosen by default for most in his own party, it is only the illusion of choice for the heard. The heard of folks who just want argument and fighting to continue. Those who despise problem solving and working together those unable to set aside difference for compromise. And what I already know and you in question will soon find out is there really is more of US than you.

Panic?.. Ha ha... Because panic is seen in suppressing the vote, panic is seen in a republican justice charge to repeal a law that stood for 65 years was it? Panic is the gop trying to buy elections while quashing opposition turn out and saying NO to everything all the while throwing the uneducated the proverbial bone of anti abortion anti gay and women are inferior non sense. PANIC my good friends is seen in the dictatorship in Michigan now. Because in the end it is all they have EVER had to go on.

God made time move forward for a reason my friends.. ;] So why do Evangelicals and the right continue to insist on taking us backwards? Hmm. Indeed. ; ]

Cheers!

There is no panic on the right...... You just happened to have caught us on Father's day. We actually care about our Dads, so most of us didn't get to show up on your silly site. At least, not until now.

AppeasersFate

This is war between the peace loving American citizens and the drug pushing, border jumping, Mexicans who want to steal US resources.

Umm....really? PEACE LOVING!?! Have you been living under a rock somewhere in a vast desert, that you are completely unaware of all the wars that the "peace loving American citizens" have willingly and willfully started and joined just so they can be called "Patriotic"?

Regarding "American resources", just which "America" are you referring to? Is it North, Central or South America?

As for the drug pushers and border jumping -- better take a long look at what many U.S. Citizens do in Texas, New Mexico and Arizona: They cross the border with a passport, too. Remember back on 30 September of 2010 when the vacationing couple in Texas were attacked by a "Mexican drug gang" while they were boating and jet-skiing on Falcon Reservoir on the Rio Grande? The U.S. Citizens happened to be on the MEXICAN side of the reservoir when it happened -- because THEY decided that they somehow did not have to go through Customs just to go jet-skiing where they wanted to go jet-skiing. Yes, "AppeasersFate", those U.S. Citizens flat IGNORED the International Boundary Markers in that reservoir.

Hey, all you Obama haters out there:

ALL POLITICIANS LIE, DECEIVE AND "FUDGE" THE TRUTH!

Yes, even your Reich-wing heroes do it.

It is all about the votes. No politician really cares anything about illegal aliens but if you can grant amnesty and get a vote go for it. They are as sleazy as used car salesmen. Anything to make the sell to a stupid customer. And we know who the stupid customer is right? I do not feel as if I should have to pay down the road for what should be fixed today. Kinda embarrassing.....

and i bet he's going to do it on his FIRST DAY IN OFFICE along those other million things. That's going to be one long day that will never happen.

I need a nap just thinking about it ................. yaaaawwwwnnnn

It's the method that gets President Obama in trouble. Why in the heck did he not do this when he had a super majority. President Bush tried to but couldn't get past the conservative base. President Obama could have done this with minority Republican support. He didn't need Republicans as Obama Care proves but he would have gotten some moderate support. Now the only thing he has to show for his super majority is Obama Care which is most likely going to be struck down. None of the scumbags that collapsed our economy have been punished.

He admits he played politics when he voted against raising the debt ceiling as senator. He hasn't closed Gitmo. He uses drones to kill people, somehow that is more humane than waterboarding. He voted against the surge. He wants 4 million public sector jobs even though Europe and California are going bankrupt because of public jobs. He raises tons of money from wall street but is anti corporation. The banks are sitting pretty but good old USA corporations are villainized. He saved Chrysler so Fiat could take them over. Instead of a structured bankruptcy in the auto industry he pandered to the unions at the expense of the workers. He takes credit for ending the Iraq war even though he followed Bush's withdraw plan. Wake up people, he is the worst kind of politician.

Floyd has internal racial problems bubbling to his surface and unhappy is unhappy because he doesn't get his way with only paid right wingers controlling the news like it is done on Faux news.

Patrick spouts same old spin about accomplishments when there is a ton of them under President Obama. Just saying it over and over as if it would stick......Repubs block every attempt to reform the wallstreeters and banksters then blame everyone else...Same with Corporations are people mandate to give the control of the country to foreigners who now can buy their republican candidate.

Only reform needed is to round up all illegals deport them,close the borders and no more immigrants at all. That's the solution this country really needs. To many traitors would side with them though.

I must address a simple minded idea of deport all illegals. I will tell you it doesn't do America ANY good to do so. History tells us and shows us all WHY we as the country of America need illegal immigrants. It is hidden in the look the other way policy for decade after decade. To use illegal immigrants as a scapegoat for why the economy has failed is hogwash. A LIE! When we all lived through the housing wall street insurance company debacle's.

The illegal under the table paid immigrant gives the start up little guy a leg up to compete with the big guy the cooperate guy. All of the tax breaks and incentives that the "rich" corporations etc get , well the little guy does not have access to them because of the rate or lack there of of capital. BUT! That can be made up to a large degree by under the table pay and the slight rate differential paid to an illegal immigrant who would still make MORE by CHOICE then he or she would in there home country. It is why it has been as it has for sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long period[.].. Because it works. ;]

Take contractors in the housing boom for instance. How can a little guy compete with a corporate company building houses? One house to ten houses? Not cutting it. But to grow like the gop CLAIMS it wants sooooo many Americans used illegal labor and grew to match those companies which keeps monopolization of industries to a minimum. And besides my example there are so many instances from restaurants to hotels cleaning companies etc. ; ]Farms anyone? Hmmm. ; ]

So do yourself a favor and realize your hate and misguided party loyalty means squat. Your blind to facts of decade after decade. Deaf to what it is that allows a Congressional hearing of Jamie Dimon who was a HUGE part of the downfall of our economy in the first place, gets treated with a slap instead of a handcuff and baton. Your stuck in the politics that keeps this government from moving forward and in turn moving the countries private market backwards.. ;]

A shame you same folks cannot recognize a bust out, let alone have the morals or principals to stand on yourself. Or NONE of you would have "settled" for Mr. Romney would you. Hmm

Cheers

"What I would do, is I'd make sure that by coming into office, I would work with Congress to put in place a long-term solution for the children of those that have come here illegally,"

Interestingly, the only other significant 'immigration reform' bill was by a Republican President (Reagan), working in a bipartisan manner with a Democratic Congress.

Perhaps Hispanics should consider voting for Romney if they want any REAL chance for immigration reform.

Obama's move is pure politics - if he really wanted this, he should have done it 3 years ago - not 4 months before an election - and his move could be cancelled in only 7 months - leaving those young people in limbo, again - actually in far worse shape because Obama's plan requires that they self-identify as illegal immigrants and give the government all of their personal information (name, address, etc.), making them prime candidates for deportation. Obama could be putting them at risk - all for a cheap, cynical political stunt.

patrick demarco "He admits he played politics when he voted against raising the debt ceiling as senator. He hasn't closed Gitmo. He uses drones to kill people, somehow that is more humane than waterboarding. He voted against the surge. He wants 4 million public sector jobs even though Europe and California are going bankrupt because of public jobs. He raises tons of money from wall street but is anti corporation. The banks are sitting pretty but good old USA corporations are villainized. He saved Chrysler so Fiat could take them over. Instead of a structured bankruptcy in the auto industry he pandered to the unions at the expense of the workers. He takes credit for ending the Iraq war even though he followed Bush's withdraw plan. Wake up people, he is the worst kind of politician."

Nice summary of Obama's failures - Pure Chicago-style politics, so we shouldn't be surprised.

And in spite of his 'rhetoric' about job 'creation', the official government Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that 1.3 million FEWER people were working in May 2012 than when Obama took office.

Obama promotes self-deportation too. But Obama does it harming our economy. For illegal immigrants is more difficult each day get a job, especially in construction, the amount of money sent to their families has declined considerably, many have self-deported to their countries a and many others have chosen to not emigrate to US , for fear not find work. All this is misrepresented by Obama and his followers as an achievement, when it is only as a result of their economic failure , what a losers.

As usual, Mittens can't answer a question for the life of him. He has to run back and ask his advisors what to say so he waffles back and forth trying to cover the whole enchildada. What a joke!!!!

This man is dangerous. We don't need a pansy @ss like this for president.

Apparently the collapse feisty brigade was out in full force today.

Starsailing - No problem. I am a fellow liberal, right-wing Democrat. I am sarcastic but a friend so when you see me on here - remember... It cracks me up that all the bully boy/bigots were on here ranting and raving when Obama's announcement was made about immigration - huge number of hysterical rants. When Romney more or less admitted that this was his plan, as well and that it was endorsed by Rubio, things calmed down. They are just angry that Obama beat them to the punch.

Where was all this deficit outrage when Bush put 2 wars and 2 tax cuts on the credit card? I dont remember you all in here yelling about how he was going to destroy our country. Or is it just because its a democrat in the white house now. After all we all know ITS OK IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN!

Starsailing you are a naive little puppy. Go to PBS's Frontline and view their back episodes on the financial collapses. Maybe your rhetoric about blue knight being better than the red knight will change. They are all a bunch of corrupt monkeys.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-power-wall-street/

Yes, they've got Romney hiding from the press and McCain doing all his talking for him.

Does everyone notice, anytime there is a hard time in the Romney campaign there is McCain on the morning news shows taking on the battle for Romney.

Romney has no plan. ROMNEY IS THE RUBBERSTAMP FOR THE KOCH/ROVE AGENDA.

Exactly. Romneycare will do whatever his corporate masters tell him to do. He has never created a single job, yet he wants everybody to think that somehow, he would be able to do just flip a switch without spending a penny, and cut revenues at the same time.

But the people the Kock suckers are targeting don't have the critical thinking skills to understand this is nothing more than an empty promise.

Since our President announced that the government would no longer seek the deportation of immigrants who were illegally brought to the U.S. as children, under certain conditions. Romney now says he would pursue some type of comprehensive, long-term reform to America's immigration system after previously berating our President and had no answer to what he would do. Romney continues to use everything and anything that comes from our President as completely negative because of Romney’s lack of confidence in himself, failure to have solid road map for this country, lack of leadership.

I frankly hate both people on this issue.

Our borders are not secure. When you have people getting shot and killed at lakes in Texas, and a good chunk of Arizona wilderness and parks off limits because of drug smuggling and immigration mules it's clear this isn't a problem we can continue to ignore. Amnesty will not fix that problem either. We have to crack down on southern border security.

In addition to that, which NEITHER candidate has stated, you have to start including serious jail time and fines for EMPLOYERS who hire illegals. Until you put the people encouraging illegal immigration into a 6x6 box and take their companies and their homes away from them you're not going to ever really stem the tide.

Yes, they've got Romney hiding from the press and McCain doing all his talking for him.

Republicans run and hide when the going gets tough.

I have a plan that will help all Americans. DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS!

Listen! I was once a Proud Republican, proud of my Grand Old Party, but I can no longer vote for any Republican, and here's why! All you Freedom Loving Americans, brave Independents, and Movie-goers maybe or maybe not know this, but the scenarios in the two recent sci-fi movies the "Hunger-Games" with Woody Harrelson, and "In-Time" with Justin Timberlake are exactly what Mitt Romney and Republicans and the 1% have planned for the rest of us. They want us Middle-class folk to be turned into Serfs to assure warm bodies for their minimum wage jobs for their Luxury-goods, and to have our precious kids be "Cannon-Fodder" to fight in their obscene foreign intervention Wars. See those two Movies! Those two Movies, along with Rush Limbaugh, are the "Face of the Republican Party" You know what I say is True!

Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office for Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’

By Eric Scheiner
October 19, 2011
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(CNSNews.com)- During last night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nev., former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney admitted that a lawn company he had used hired illegal immigrants and that when he found out he told the company it could not have illegal aliens working on his property because he was running for office.

DAMN THEY ARE IN HIS YARD!

So appeasersfate you can't vote for romney if you want total deportation. Mabey it is time for you republicans to start the Ron Paul write-in campaign

Pat Boston MA. 1.3 comment:

Excellent! Republicans only "want to work with everyone" when they are campaigning and trying to win an election. I never heard of him trying to encourage his fellow-Republicans in Congress and in the Senate to try to work with/compromise with President Obama OR any Democrats. Yeah, right. You Republicans are total morons if you believe this B.S. from Romney......

@ Appeasers: GOOD PLAN! Wanna go work out in the fields picking strawberries for 4 dollars an hour after they're all gone? :D Didn't think so.

Fact,

Actually it's an excellent plan, or at least getting them out of the workforce is an excellent plan.

First off yes there will be pain in the beginning. Because an American will not pick strawberries at 4 bucks an hour. But they will pick them at $15 to $20. That means the price of food goes up. Then guess what happens in the cities. They start saying that hey McD's and Walmart I can't work your job at 10 bucks an hour it doesn't pay for food. So McD's and Walmart will eventually have to pay 15 bucks an hour. That's how economies work. Illegal hiring and an illegal labor force actually depresses wages. We don't want to depress wages. We want pressure to increase wages, that's good for everyone in the long run.

Second, little statistical data, 74% of agricultural jobs are actually done by Americans, only 26% are on average done by illegals. So you're not replacing the entire work force, only a small part of it.

Third, the biggest problem where you actually have illegal hiring is in your food processing plants, canning facilities, slaughter houses and packing plants for beef, chicken, etc. That's also why you're having and seeing those e coli and salmonella outbreaks over the country every year. You're asking a group of people who have no idea about personal hygiene to handle your food. Trust me having a legal work force doing these jobs is in everyone's interest.

Deporting them all or not is a completely different matter, but getting them out of the workforce is not a bad idea.

You democrats are a bunch of morons for thinking Obama will finally enact his hope and change policy!

While I am not totally thrilled with Romney, I do believe he deserves a chance, much like we gave to President Obama. Obama hasn't done anything worth mentioning except cause our country to become more and more divided. An issue like illegal immigration is a strong issue that should have been addressed at the beginning of his Presidency. He has failed to put no laws into effect except to cater to illegals? Does he not even care, that the rest of the country is awaiting their relatives from other countries, those who will to come here legally? NO!!!!!! Because they are not in this country yet, he doesn't care at all.

My cousin will finally be arriving in the US after waiting for 15 years. The minute she gets her citizenship, we will be enlightening her on why it took so long and how this administration made her wait, while others got here for free!!!!!

@Unhappy.. I am trying hard to think what Obama has done...... He gave me hope for a brief moment? It is sad when you have to pick one or the other and neither one is stellar. I think many people are thinking it could not be any worse with Romney.

Burning Brightly?.......so giving more tax breaks to the rich, destroying social sec, medicare, and the Post Office under Romney would be a good thing?...Where you would be paying the taxes Romney is supposed to be paying....that would not be worse? Not worse if you are a 1%ter! I could list a hundred things Obama has done and a hundred more repubs have blocked, but your fake "I am trying hard to think what Obama has done" is so fake......disingenuise..funny fake as all hell. It takes two seconds to type in President Obama's accomplishments in search..........

this isnt a problem let alone something that needs a solution- we have the solution its called enforce our immigration laws. we cannot let in every single human being who "just wants a better life" we dop not have to room or money to deal with 2,3,4 billion people who would love to just show up here. why should mexicans get a pass because they are close. bloom where you are planted

President Obama's accomplishments

Obama promotes will deport themselves. But Obama does it harm our economy. For illegal immigrants is more difficult each day get a job, especially in construction, the amount of money sent to their families has declined considerably, many have returned to their countries a and many others have chosen to not emigrate for fear not find work. All this is misrepresented by Obama and his followers as an accomplishment ,a big succes, when it is only as a result of their economic failure. They just foolish them self.

Romney changes what he says every other day..according to what he is told to say. Ihave yet the hear actual proposals for anything fromhim or the republican party..other than more tax cuts for their wealthy friends..and more trickle down economics..which cost this counrty over 600k in jobs that went elsewhere..and around 200k + in job losses per month here. Not counting cuts that help many of our own citizens. This used to be a country for "we the people"..today, it is for we the few at the top.

Welcome to the waffle house! Romney stands for NOTHING. All he will do from here on out is try to waffle away from everything he has said so far. Add up what he has said and it all cancels out. He has said NOTHING.

What is he good for? NOTHING.

As for all you "ship 'em back to Mexico morons", you are ignorant beyond belief. Immegration is the ONLY thing that will save us. We need MORE YOUNG PEOPLE to pay for all the old ones. OPEN THE BORDERS COMPLETELY. FREE IMMIGRATION FOR EVERYONE. THAT is how you grow a nation.

If your policies were followed in the past, YOU WOULD NOT BE HERE.

That is looking better and better all the time. I am looking at YOU, tea baggers.

Hell, the Republican's wouldn't even work with GW on immigration reform, and it is one issue that cost McCain his shot at the Presidency. You really think they are going to offer any sort of plan above mass deportations. There is a lead article in the Washington Post this morning talking about what has happened to Alabama businesses after they passed their tough immigration bill. None of us want illegal workers, but we all want the cheaper costs that they provide us as a result of their labors.

We need MORE YOUNG PEOPLE to pay for all the old ones

This is what Democrats are worry about , who is going to pay their bills when they get older. Get your butt and put it to work, save money for your retirement. SS is not going to last, you are willing to sell your country to any illegal immigrant, who want to jump the fence. What a jerk you are. Bunch of hand outs, big government dependants .

"What I would do, is I’d make sure that by coming into office, I would work with Congress to put in place a long-term solution for the children of those that have come here illegally." So, Mittens anticipates that the single priority of Congress will NOT be to make sure that he's a one term president. Hmmm.

WOW! Romney will ACTUALLY seek legislation!!! What a miraculous thing that will be!!! <sarc>

It is easier to seek than to get. Anyone can seek anything as President, Senator, Congressman, staffer, reporter, Tea Party person dressed up like a colonial militia who never served a day in the military...anyone. Hell, I can stand on a milk crate and scream about how we need immigration reform. In the end, its all just hot air with no substance to follow, just like Romney the candidate.

How about that obama.....had to come out today, 6/18/2012, and say he couldn't do what he said because a silly thing called law stopped him - and this educated man (?) and lawyer didn't know the law or was not informed by his "educated" staff that he couldn't do it???? Let me ask a question: IS THERE ANYONE OF ANY INTELLIGENCE AT THE WHITE HOUSE WHO CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION - I THINK NOT! AND YOU WANT TO GIVE THIS MAN AND HIS STAFF ANOTHER 4 YEARS? - ARE YOU ALL INSANE?????....I'll give obama this - he is real good at sound bites as he panders for voters. He is such a pathetic leader.........LMAO.

Romney won't be specific. He'll make some kind of vague remark then go back in his trailer to find out from his staff if he's put his foot in his mouth again. He should wear one of those t-shirts that says, Needs Constant Supervision.

Romney's rule of thumb is WWND (what would Norquist do?).

Fred Owens.... com #2

These friends of all colors in Nevada that are ILLEGAL and VOTE why is this ok?

Maybe we should just start registering voters in Mexico or Guatemala

"I have a plan that will help all Americans. DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS!"

That's not a plan, that's a talking point. When we can't even round up the top 10 most wanted, how are we going to round up between 12 and 20 million people?? Tell us Mitt --- what IS your plan and more importantly --- how are you going to get it through congress??

Great White North Observer: As far as the jeans, we here on First Read said Mitt looked ridiculous in his jeans and commented how we hardly ever see President Obama in jeans. Next day, the jeans were gone. Just like that.

Yes Pat - I commented at the time that someone besides himself had broken in those old man jeans. He's a big phoney - no gut reactions. He has to confer with his cronies to see which way the wind is blowing.

Romney = no style and no substance.

It's like water and food coloring !

Just wait until he gets one on one with Obama in the debates. You'll see backtracking, slip sliding, nonsense doubletalk like you never saw before. It'll go something like this:

"Well, you know, when we get those jobs and cut those taxes, then we'll be fine. We don't want to say, "Gosh, where are the jobs? We want to, you know, have jobs for everyone, and once we do that, then we'll go ahead and fix the other things. Whichever is most important. Because, you know, the American people are saying, "Gosh, we want this stuff fixed, and I will be the fixer guy. I have the business experience. I have had a job in the private sector, and another one in the public sector, so I have experience on all of the sectors. Gosh."

What you'll see in the debates from Romney is the deer in the headlights look. Like he did when anyone ask him a serious question, before he went into hiding.

Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL

Really?

That's not what Willard was saying during the primaries!

That's not what Obama was saying when BUSH TRIED THIS.

Oh how we forget the left howling at the moon when Bush wanted the same damn thing.

Hypocrits the lot of you.

Just wait until he gets one on one with Obama in the debates. You'll see backtracking, slip sliding, nonsense doubletalk like you never saw before. It'll go something like this:

and the right wing will claim Romney won the debates. lol

That's not what Obama was saying when BUSH TRIED THIS.

Oh how we forget the left howling at the moon when Bush wanted the same damn thing.

Hypocrits the lot of you.

It was the GOP who rejected it NOT the DEMS! and Obama is not giving amnesty. Patiently awaiting your full written apology to Dems and Obama.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/27/washington/27immig.html?_r=2&oref=slogin

Yesterday most of the right wing posters on here said things like all illegals need to be deported no matter what, illegal is illegal. So how is it today? Not so much venom, or are you finally realizing what a sham Mitt Romney is?

You are partially right Great White. Strictly political. Like OBLAMA himself, no substance.

You'll be waiting quite awhile Chuck. Let me know if he ever gets back to you.

Did John McCain say that dark money is flowing in from Sheldon Ayers' China holdings into the Romney Campaign? If so this dark red money is actively buying the presidency for the GOP courtesy of the SCOTUS. What will our rich masters want in return for their investments?

Yesterday most of the right wing posters on here said things like all illegals need to be deported no matter what, illegal is illegal. So how is it today? Not so much venom, or are you finally realizing what a sham Mitt Romney is?

No!!!!! Today is Father's Day...... Unlike so many of the left, we actually care about our Dads. That is why you aren't seeing that much of us today. Nice try, though!

Pat from Boston Speaking of credibility! Just wondering when the fourth speaker of the house on Beacon Hill goes down for a felony conviction? God knows Martha Coakley would never investigate a Democrat! So of course we will have to wait for the feds to go in and clean up one of the most corrupt democratic strongholds in the country.

For teabaggers whining is not just a job, it's a way of life.

If Romney is going to counter then he'll have to put forth a plan.

The best he can do is "for the children of illegal immigrants". How is he going to handle the illegal that's been here for 25 years, working, and paying taxes?

Eric, currently, the wind is about 5 MPH out of the northwest, if that helps. Tomorrow is another story.

sharky, absolutely 100% dead on. It's a way of life for these whiners. I can't stand them. They are nothing but a bunch of self-centered crybabies.

Sure is a nice day.

Yes, because a long term plan for the children of illegals is so much more comprehensive than a plan for all illegals...... (rolls eyes/sarcasm intended).

Someone on Huffington Post has a suggestion -

Why doesn't Romney just tell the GOP to pass The DREAM Act? Yeah, why not?!

It's being written that Mitt isn't leading, he's actually being led. Worst.kind.of.leadership we could possibly end up with. He's like the teabagger supporters who love being led around by their noses by the likes of Limbaugh and the Koch Bros.

Right On Schedule: The republicanCrimeCartel Created this disaster back in
Reagan's time and Perfected it with the Bushies, especially With KingGeorge the
VaccumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001 - 2008. THEY
ARE Causing this Depression we are back into to get people mad at Prez O and
vote for Rommel and Whomever his love mate is. YOU KNOW what Rommel's got in
mind For US???: A HUGE American military, OTHER PEOPLE's Sons fighting Newly
thought up And VERY PROFITABLE WARS for 1-5%ers Riches and Corporate Wealth, And
NO American Universal National healthCare System. Even Prez O was "forced" to
cut a deal with the powerful health insurance industry. Does ANYONE KNOW what
the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats:
$128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and
DIED. The FACT that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like THE OTHER
COUNTRIES WHO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS who need medical attention and
help instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for Unending
Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE. FACE IT Sister and Bother American, Rommel IS ON
THE SIDE OF THE FAT INSURANCE COMPANIES And WILL MAKE SURE We Americans Are
Denied A Wonderful HealthCare System like in Germany or Israel, WHICH WE
AMERICAN TAXPAYERS PAY FOR TOTALLY FREE FOR ISRAELIS. YEAH, A LOT of US are mad
at Prez O; The Man Has ROYALLY SCREWED UP LATELY: He let the $4.00+Gas and oil
go by without a protest OR Complaint to the Justice Dept Going after the oil
companies for Price Fixing And PRICE GOUGING. AND that shaking hands with karzai
of afghan
after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONEtheless
HAS ANYBODY got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US
and ANY economic progress made?? He WILL GUT US LIKE A FLAPPIN' FISH ON THE
DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 38% and NO Social Security..Gotta
Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE At All; republicanCromeCartelPanacea:
Sick??, No "health care insurance policy"? awww.. Sick?..Wel, DIE
QUICK!!!!!
AS "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. And Rommel
and his LoveMate Rubio, Like Rommel and Goebbels, are gonna' give you the
republicanCrimeCartelPropaganda Lies; You Love Your Family? Don't Go for it. You
Don't care?? Go Ahead vote for these two Politaphiles and see what
happens.........................

Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as
CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure
marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his
partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself
amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar Fortune.
Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass
Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain
Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time,
drove into bankruptcy, ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including
Many Many Suicides While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of
service to his country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by
helping me get elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse
car elevator for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up
People...This guy IS Count Dracula In carnate. A vote for ANY Republican
politico is a vote against Yours and YOUR FAMILY'S Well Being. You can take that
to the bank.

Why doesn't Romney just tell the GOP to pass The DREAM Act? Yeah, why not?!

Even better question, why doesn't one of these so-called professional journalists ask him that question?

Talk about getting a free pass...

Pat - you are on fire! Keep bringing this little tidbits out into the open!

Feisty, there is one thing I am sure of. History does in fact repeat itself. Funny isn't it how some in this country banged the drums for years how "We Won The Cold War" against the communists.

And now these very same people are looking for a society similar to what took place in Russia with regard to how they treat their people. We are the peasants who should be satisfied with low wages and whatever crumbs they want to throw our way. Health care?! That's for the rich.

Well, we're not going to stand for it.

As far as the health care Supreme Court decision goes, if they get rid of the mandate, then they will be getting rid of what the GOP wanted all along- the mandate. How ironic.

Good luck to Mitt/aka as Thurston Howell if this is overturned. People aren't going to like it. Not one bit. I see the conservatives on the Supreme Court and Mitt in the same light. Not a single thought to the welfare of our democracy. They're opting for a society sustained by the rich only. The rest of us can die because of lack of medical care or lack of decent wages.

As Stalin said, a single death is a tragedy, millions of deaths is a statistic - or something along those lines.

Meanwhile, Mitt flies on a corporte jet campaign stop to campaign stop. And he has the audacity to call it a bus tour.

Communists were real good at something - lying. Just like Mitt and the GOP.

Well, we're not going to stand for it.

You know what is going to be intersting, Pat?

Whether or not Marco Rubion now backs off of his version of the Dream Act...

Scratch that - should read just a matter of when he walks it back!

Was that an earthquake I just felt or Willard shaking his etch a sketch again?

Wow, bumbling Barry's sycophants are out in force today. Since he didn't have his own ideas on immigration he went ahead and stole Marco Rubio's before it could be proposed as legislation. That's pretty well noted in The Atlantic article from 2 days ago. Too bad Barry's imperial ukase isn't actually law. I guess he couldn't politically afford to work with the legislature to create a permanent solution, even though republicans were actually coming around, or maybe because they were. Still, this hasty move should come as no surprise from a president who seems to revel in making fast decisions that cost the taxpayers much, create little in terms of results, and in some cases are constitutionally questionable (stimulus, big taxpayer giveaways to crony corporations that fail, health insurance reform) I guess with a record like that Barry and his supporters have to resort to throwing mud at the other guy. At this point the only thing that you can really credit Barry with is three and a half years of experience running the United States - into the ground.

Feisty & Pat - Rubio is sycophant and is the poster boy for the Tea Baggers down here. He is like Romney in that he will do or say what ever he thinks a potential constituent wants him to do. I heard him last night on TV say he was born a Catholic, switched to Mormon, switched back to Catholic and now attends a Baptist church. I guess he is evolving.

Romney would work with congress....That would be a hoot. ..That is the "Dream Act!" ....Norquist already said, all they need is somebody to sign the bills.........As if Mitt has a say in anything on his own. Whatever Rove, Norquist and rush want is what Romney signs.

Romeny does not need to give a knee jerk reaction to yet another thing Obama pulled out of his nowhere to get votes. He was working on a long term plan and should give it thought rather than the Obama way...like all good little Pelosi and Reid Democrats voting for a health care bill without reading it that will affect every single person legal or not for the rest of their lives. At the time the Democrats did NOT know that Obama personally would exempt 1200 groups of his friends/unions from the bill. At least they did not have to read this bill because there is NO bill/law. It is just a declaration to get votes.

I want a immigration bill that will FIRST take into consideration for the legal people that live and work here and need jobs. This by pass the congress just threw all legal Americans in that age bracket seeking employment including blacks who have the highest Unemployment rate under the bus.

If this is an example of what Obama meant when he told the Russians that after his next election he would have more flexibility what can be next?

Romney has a long term plan alright...and that plan is not to have a plan, and to not talk about his plan of not having a plan, because every plan that Romney planned, was not the plan, that he previously had planned.

Prresident Obama/Biden 2012....you can plan on that!

Personally I think this sinks rubio's chances of getting the VP nod. Now Romney has to pick another boring white guy which is what they did not want to do, but a woman is out after the Palin debacle

Even if he has a long term plan no republican can vote for him now because he showed his hand on immigration, he wants them here. Why are you not so pissed about that today?

Not only are these people the life's blood of America, they are, but let me just say to you tonight, on economic terms, the illegal immigrants are also the life's blood of this society. And I'm going to be hard core with you. They produce high quality labor at low cost and they cheat on their taxes. It doesn't get any better.

Arthur Laffer, conservative economist, in a speech delivered to the Heritage Foundation, a conservative "think tank" cum rich boys' club. There's the real GOP plan. The fake plan is to pretend they might actually do something about it.

Of course, Oblama is not too worried about Rubio.

I see Feisty won't shut that liberal, welfare grabbing pie hole!!!!!!!!!

Timmy ....welfare for the rich is ok with you eh buddy? 72% of ALL Americans want the rich to pay more taxes. It is the rich and corporations getting the welfareallowing them to pay no or little taxes. What is funny is...YOU end up paying the taxes they should be paying. You vote against your own self interests.....Now that is welfare grabbing at its worst.

I have a simple plan for illegals: MAKE THEM LEGAL.

THEN, let more and more and more into the country. Open the doors. Let the huddled masses breath free. You know the STUFF THAT MADE AMERICA GREAT.

No. The GOP would not be for that. That would mean opportunity for everyone, not immense wealth for the very few.

DISGUSTING. The GOP does not have the FAINTEST CLUE what made America great.

I got news for you, you bone-headed GOP tea baggers, IT IS NOT A WALL AROUND THE BORDERS!

If Obama had done immigration reform the first year, the whiners and the party of NO would have complained about Obama forgetting about he economy. I bet,secretly that they want illegals here, so that they can screw the American worker out of a nickel.

Take in information these Dream Acters put on an application and use it to go round-up the law breaking illegal alien parents who brought them.

They are the ones sucking up our tax-dollar, and draining our system.

Here is an idea

Immigration- Build a fence on both borders, Make 100% of the materials for the fence manufactured in the US. Have a moratorium on new immigration. Have all immigrants register, must give fingerprint, DNA, documents from home country, resident address. They will pay 1500.00 fine and once all criteria is met the will be granted temporary citizenship. We will do background checks from the country or origin and if they are not criminals or fugitives they can stay after 7 sevens if they violate no law and file taxes they will be granted full citizenship. As for guest workers they will to the register, fingerprint, DNA and background check they will pay 500.00 dollars per year to work in the US. Anyone that doesn't comply will be deported immediately.

Ah, but we know his tax plan is to cut taxes for the rich and "broaden the base" and make the poor pay more.

Anyone notice Romney's tax plan, which is supposed to spur job growth (like tax cuts have done that?), blows a 5 trillion dollar hole in the economy?

If the past is any indication, it would be perfectly fine for Willard to run a deficit, or do whatever his puppeteers tell him to do. But if a DEMONCRAT does it, there'll be hell to pay!

the right are so fortunate- with their selective memory. They successfully position themselves as the keeper of responsible econimics, but in reality they are responsible for the behavior they attack.

Government spending and government workers increase under W.- then decrease with Obama...yet Obama is the 'big government socialist'.

They hate Obama for cutting immigrants so much slack....but Obama has already deported more immigrants than W.

They hate Obama for his gun laws, even though gun laws have relaxed under his administration.

Its all BS and the 'liberal media' helps sell the narrative. They get away with everything.

They hate Obama for cutting immigrants so much slack....but Obama has already deported more immigrants than W.

Yes and the GOP just voted to stop the focus on deporting illegals that are violent criminals . Now why would they do that?

The House voted on Thursday to kill nearly every action by the Obama administration to reform the immigration enforcement system, approving amendments that would separate U.S. citizens from their undocumented spouses and end prioritization of deporting dangerous unauthorized immigrants.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/08/house-republicans-immigration-defund-obama_n_1581052.html

Don't forget Romeny has to ask permission from Norquist, Rove, Koch babies, and of course his billion dollar donors before he tell the American people his plan on this or that, God forbid he could come up with a plan on his own, just not the Teaparty way, just lie, cheat your way to White House, now that's the Teaparty Way!

Eric, the "poor pay more" . Man, wake up! 50% don't pay taxes now. You sound like one of them. Your Welfare check late this month?

hJack.......spouting the ol faux news false rant. Poor people pay all kinds of sale taxes on foods, clothing etc, but only the rich get to itemize those taxes so they end up not paying taxes on those in the long run. All the laws are skewed so the rich get tax breaks and loopholes to avoid paying taxes. Even Pres Reagan got ticked off when his rich friends told him they had all kinds of write offs and loopholes to use to end up paying NO Taxes at all. Peddle that false story to your faux news friends, it doesn't fly in the REAL world of journalism!

starsailing (#5.12)

Love it! Your comments are all excellent but this one is the best! (Also gave me a great laugh!)

Keep it up!

Hi Jean ..thanks.........I have a sister in Calif that is a teabagger all the way and as far right as a christian as can be. So I get all kinds of "God loves you" emails, then she sends me stories about how she hates everyone that Jesus loved......Painful sorrow for people like that. Then I have a brother that became a millionaire and completely hates everyone and everything he owns including family members. Nothing is good enough. Greed has overcome him so much , his only purpose to to get more money. The two most unhappy people I know. This blogging shows the same exact lesson. Rt wingers hate everyone that are not the same as them, and they worship greed. So a dash of Groucho Marx now and then is like taking a shot of Pepto Bismal while blogging........Sez me...!

Tell you bro & sister that you have nothing to be angry about. You have given your soul to the Democratic party and you are at peace now.

God loves you AND SO DOES FATHER HARRY REID (that Thin, Austere Priest in all black robes)! Be at peace now my son.

If we allow illegal aliens 30 -years old and under to stay; how about deporting the illegal alien parents who knowingly broke our laws and put their kids into this situation?

I think that should be the trade off. If the younger stays; the parents should step up and be deported! They are a drain. No rewarding law breakers.

I wonder if Mitt will elaborate to his Hispanic voting base, a law that alienates Hispanic families, before election time?

I wonder if Mitt will be non-political and pick Marco Rubio, because he's VP material, and not because he's Hispanic?

I wonder if Mitt will keep the landscaping company that hires illegals, that he supposedly knew nothing about?

I wonder if Mitt will speak in Hispanic and take a photo-op of himself and family members going back to Mexico for old time sake to his father's birthplace?

I wonder if Mitt will show his real birth certificate to the public in good faith?

Parties should worry less. 56% of Americans want a path to citizenship for illegals.

Eric: The majority of America wanted health care reform and look at the toxic liability it has become for Obama. The power of the mis-information campaign has been staggering. Genafan may have a good point on the potential blowback. None the less, I support the Dream act. We should enact it.

I want to give them a path back to their home country

They are greedy criminals....no one back in their home country is starving

Hey JW101...been watching faux news again........how do you know....that no one is starving...have you traveled through the country....i didn't think so jack......ass

What part of illegal doesn't the DOJ understand? If it is illegal it is not legal. This is American law not Chicago law.

So Rightiesd want to place blame eh?...Welllll.......Problems actually started when those Texans took over Mexican land. That's when Texans were "Illegals" Blame the Texans...not President Obama.

Romney: ‘I’m Running For Office for Pete’s Sake, I Can’t Have Illegals’

By Eric Scheiner
October 19, 2011
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(CNSNews.com)- During last night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas, Nev., former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney admitted that a lawn company he had used hired illegal immigrants and that when he found out he told the company it could not have illegal aliens working on his property because he was running for office.

Romneys plan is work on my yard after the election

starsailing- Guess you never took Texas history, huh? The land was offered to anyone who would pledge loyalty and become a Catholic.

Eric, how many of those 56% are illegal? Oh, that's the Dem way, though.

Jeanette and that loyalty was real huh?.....Land speculators all the way. Americans overan the land like every other place moving west and they took it. Some wanted it as a separate country before it became U.S.

So you're suggesting that the republicans do what they have been resisting for years? ...interesting concept but wouldn't that make them look like fools having obstructed the same policy for decades?

upset - the Republicans need no assistance looking like fools. Look at the guy they reluctantly are sending out onto the field. I have never seen such tepid support for a candidate in my 58 years.

Who cares what they look like if they win. The Republican Party is trying to redeem itself after the idiocy they showed during 8 years of Bush. They took a beating for that in 2008. Now, they had four options: (1) They could have supported Obama and if through their support Obama succeeded (however we want to define "succeed"), they would have validated the notion that their Party was irrelevant. The people would view Democrats as the savior. (2) They could have supported Obama and if Obama failed, the Republicans would look like part of the problem, (3) They could have obstructed Obama and if Obama succeeds, they are no worse off than they are now, essentially out of power, or (4) They could obstruct Obama at every turn to have him fail and then they win power. Guess that they chose--and, frankly, it is the right strategy for them to gain power. Now, to make sure that they marginalize Democrats for years to come, they need to accept the reality of demographic and economic changes, or they risk being out of touch and/or supporting dying "boomers". Boomers, whether you like it or not, demographic trends among younger voters favor minorities, gay rights, pro-choice, alternate energy and environmental protection. A party that ignores these trends will be relegated to the scrap heap of history. So, the real fools in this situation are the American people. We would have wasted 12 years (8 Bush and 4 Obama), avoiding solving our problems.

THe leadership of both parties want open borders, a ruling and slave class. Get ready America

Yea, and his dad ran for president illegally! Never hear the Birthers, Fox and Fools and media ask him about that! Crickets......

It will be sooner than that. Adios America.

It's a good thing you wingnut xenophobes will be an even smaller minority in the future...

enjoy I.H:)

German Gem,

It's odd hearing your statement from a culture like yours that started both world wars and remains infamous for a xenophobic society..........

Extraordinary ignorance. Most of the Latinos here in the US now were born here, in many cases so were their parents. They've adopted the ways of the US, including our system of laws and Constitution, they speak English, many can't even speak Spanish! Those who have immigrated here and became citizens did so because they prefer our way of life.

So what will happen if Latinos become the new majority? Not much, maybe more Mexican restaurants and taco stands. Stop being so xenophobic and embrace diversity. it makes for a much more interesting and enjoyable life.

Yes the Mexican Mafia is a much bigger threat to us now than Iran, Iraq and Syria combined. They are taking over private US property all over the border areas for importing druds and the illlegals. We have the ruling elites to thank for this too. Once the US economy is completely destroyed it will be a fire sale for the real rich, not what the politicians are calling rich. Then they can bring in their Facso-commie-Nazi system of total control..

I remember back in the late 80's and 90's when Daddy Bush, Clinton and Gore were all yapping about how NAFTA would stop the illegals because it would lift both or our economies. We got suckered on that one too. and yes we have been hearing the sucking sounds of the jobs and the real economy going overseas

Sorry, Mexico is not a nasty place - on the contrary it is a beautiful and plentiful country. It is the people that make a country, not the coordinates and frankly with 30,000 good people already killed in Mexico over the last few years I do not want to see our once great nation follow, but it is already well on its way.

As for embracing change etc... fine, but lets start by abolishing ALL forms of welfare. Predominantly it is latinos who collect welfare and I for one am sick of it!

A good friend came here from Mexico as a child, excelled in school and went on to college. I worked with him as a programmer some years back while contacting with the company he worked for. When he needed a job I gladly recommended him, not because I am xenophobic but because he was a great engineer and an asset to our team, so cut the racist craap!!!

I just wish he were an example to ALL latinos. You are not here for a welfare check but for an opportunity to do great things!

Harry Reid is a Mormon and you Democrats voted him in. Nevada was stupid enough to vote him in after he voted for a healthcare bill with out reading it. He has 12+ jobs bills on his desk he has not read and refuses to bring to the committees!

Coco...not one of those bills is a jobs bill.....as repubs screamed they would be putting forth. Giving tax breaks to the rich bills are officially over. 72% of americans want the rich to pay more taxes. Killing Social security, Medicare and the Post Office, and giving more tax breaks for the rich while making the middle class and poor pay for the rich tax breaks......are not on the table.

COCO dems don't care about someones religion like the right does

@Bailey

You're correct. What President Obama has doe is force Mitt to actually say something, even if he was incredibly vague. I think it was a brilliant maneuver on the Presidents part. The conservatives going nuts over this would never vote for him anyway but it does solidify his Latina base. I just love how the conservatives are reacting to this. They're coming so unstuck there are parts falling off of them.

This is an incredible perfect storm. Twist in the wind Mitt.

Actually, that is why Holder does not want photo ID to vote.

Bailey Quarters....Now you have me thinking of Jan Smithers because of your moniker........The most beautiful woman that was on tv..........WKRP........Nice diversion...thankyou!

sounds like the koch brothers carl rove fox news romney camp just cant stand it and cry the blues and have every rightwing teabager idiot apear on fox to say that the president is playing unfair politics when they`ve been using race, voter supression, birther, the romney bus riding around in circles blowing its horn, scumbag senetors and rightwing justices calling him a lier at state of the union speeches, filabustering everything he does, and vowing to never raise taxes execept on the 99%,disrespecting the office the president and the president, from day one do nothing to get this country back to work, and had our credit rating down graded and still want the economy and unemployment to be in the @!$%#house to make him look bad, and their only goal is to win the his office back take control of house and senete to push their rightwing for the rich agenda, i think its about time dems start playing the game tit for tat because they aren`t above doing or saying anything and i mean anything.

This was an absolutely shrewd political move by the president, read 'em and weep

This 'shrewd political move by the president" is all he does - politics. Be nice if he tried being a president and leading, rather than playing this game. He is taking us down, Dems.

Put your hands to work rather than keeping the palms up waiting for handouts.

hjack wrote...."Put your hands to work rather than keeping the palms up waiting for handouts"

hjack as soon as you get the billionaires and the top 1% and ceo's and big oil etc to quit forcing tax breaks on themselves from the politicians they buy, we will listen to reform. Then again, get rid of the tax breaks and loop holes for the rich, and there won't be any need for handouts to the poor people who lost their jobs because of the rich banksters and wallstreeters who crashed the economy. They will all be working!

Got it right except for "reincarnation", that isn't part of Mormon doctrine.

Romney is being deliberately vague, trying not to offend anyone, hoping people will apply their own biases to those vague pronouncements and think Mitt favors their position, whatever it is. Of course, for those who are paying attention to actual words, it only reinforces Romneys image as a pandering, wishy-washy, flip-flopping, political weathervane.

America, just what are the policies of Oblama? Other than give away to non-workers.

Get the money back from the banksters and wallsteeters who caused the people to lose their jobs and their life savings. Repubs block every attempt at reform like putting Glass/Stiegal back in place because they want to crash the economy again to get the rest of the money they didn't get under Bush. Don't blame the people who lost their jobs, blame the greedy rich who stole the money.

You cannot claw it back Starsailing. They spent it all they were having fun. They gave most of it to Nancy Pelosi to buy her thong. She used what was left to BUY OBAMA!!!!

From my experience, many Mexicans do not adopt American values or way of life. They go back and forth to Mexico often missing lots of school - not wanting to make up the work, and they get financial assistant in school with free or reduced lunches, school fees, etc. They are not quite Americans because their families do not want them Americanized; however as shepherdo886 indicated they don't quite belong to their home countries either. What does this leave us? A bunch of teens who are angry, not sure where they belong and will find the "wrong type of people" and cause problems. They grow up poor, without wanting to conform to American ideals since this means they are turning their backs on their home countries, have problems speaking English while loosing their home language as well, have problems finding work since they struggle with the language and have a horrible language as well, and turn to a life of crime because they don't get a good life here. We are keeping these people down because they don't fit in since they are not quite legal. If we are going to let them stay, we need to treat them like every other American. It is when we have the attitute that you don't quite belong here, cause much tension in these communities. Of course, their attitutes affect this as well.

Not sure what the answer is, but what we are doing isn't working; therefore, it is stupid to keep doing the same thing and wonder why nothing is getting better. I personally am tired of Spanish speaking need to apply. This is what causes some of the rifts. They don't want to become like us, they want us to become like them. Love America and embrace it, or get out.

At least the President's position has been consistent.

Romney would probably follow the constitution. Wish Oblama would.

Sorry hjack, the powers used by the president were constitutional.

Creep is exactly the word that comes to mind when describing Romney given the facts and history that have come to light. The assault of the classmate, Seamus the dog, joking about firing a hotel maid and the creepiest, dressing up like a state trooper to pull people over.

You must have forgotten about Pelosi.

No Coco we have not forgotten about Pelosi!...What a woman. Check out the accomplishments the first two years. http://www.democraticleader.gov/about?id=0002

We do remember that 14 repubs secretly met the day after Obama's inauguration and pledged to vote against every bill that would help the economy to take down our nations economy just like Bin Laden planned in writing. 14 repub terrorists said they needed to use the same plan the Taliban used......Ref Richard Draper new book. Ryan, Cantor, DeMint and Gringrich to name a few of the traitors.

Yes Starsailing . . . WHAT A WOMAN!!

Pelosi would look FETCHING IN A HABIT!!! Don't tell me you haven't Dreamed of that!!

Well quit....so you just exposed your fantasy to the world...hope it makes you feel better. I have the habit of preferring women without the habit, and the habits they have, always match the habit that I am in the habit of having. Why my habits would concern you...?..as creepy as it gets.....!.....A crying Boehner....what a non man........

Ha,ha,ha . . Tell us MORE!!! Did she wear A THONG UNDER IT?? 100% she Removed the tag. NO POINT IN THE TAXPAYERS SEEING THAT!!

We do remember that 14 repubs secretly met the day after Obama's inauguration and pledged to vote against every bill that would help the economy to take down our nations economy

Now that's just old fashioned retarded. Obama had control of both the house and the senate for 2 years and failed to do anything with his own party in control. That is pathetic. Americans voted you retards (liberals) out in 2010 and they are about to do it again this year. Don't worry welfare won't be taken away from you yet...

Mexican heroes like Pancho Villa who killed innocent Americans citizens inside the US in the early part of the 20th Century should be discussed. Mexico should be made to pay reparations! We are still waiting for an apology for Mexico killing helpless American immigrants in Texas at the Alamo and Goliad.

Tell Romney's dad to apologize then he is from mexico? LOL

What a joke, whatever issues you have with the president Obama, surely they can't be so bad that you would actually vote for Romney - this guy is a joke, vote against your own interests if you dare, but Romney is worse than GBII.