Obama can't fool the masses anymore ....

He's done ....

His poll numbers are in the dumps more and more everyday now .... "LOL"

Adios , Obamos ....

Now we have a discussion.

"Look, I'm at the start of my administration. One nice thing about the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable. You know, I've got four years," Obama told The Today Show's Matt Lauer on February 1, 2009.

OK.

"A year from now I think people are going to see that we're starting to make some progress," said Obama. "But there's still going to be some pain out there. If I don't have this done in three years, then there's going to be a one-term proposition."

And he's delivered.

Total 2008 Job Loss : -2,600,000

Jobs ADDED 2011: +1,840,000

Therefore. the economy of 2008, and the economy of 2011, has a net difference of 4.44 Million jobs in Obama's favor.

You're a smart guy, and you know history.

Under which parties presidential administrations are jobs created, since the Great Depression?

You know the answer, you just don't like the answer.

Well I have a quick query for all the shills at MSDNC.  

If an American television channel displayed an image of Barack Obama's severed head on a stake would the mainstream media run a story about it? 
Maybe even express some outrage about it? I'm guessing such an outrage would figure prominently amongst all the major networks, perhaps as the lead story.  Sharpton, Jackson?  I'm guessing we'd hear from them - calling for a boycott, marches.  Ed Shultz would devote his entire hour to it, I'm sure.  We're talking about an American President's head severed and impaled on a metal rod!

Absolutely, a disturbing sight.

Well, don't worry moonbats.  It was just our former President George W. Bush's head on a stick which aired on HBO's Game of Thrones.

Dont get overly excited libtards.. I know, I know.  This is one of your long  awaited fantasies come true. Bush's head on a stick. After all he is a war criminal. So says the left.  Never mind that Obama has followed in lockstep and in many instances even surpassed the "chickenhawk" ways Cheney, Wolfowitz, and the other despicable "neocons.".  Am I right?  You bet I am?
With the Obama Drones Barack gets to play judge, jury, an executioner of anyone he chooses and anyone in close proximity to his intended target.  But that is neither here nor there.  We all know there's two set of rules when it comes to the moonbat thought process. 

Hell, I'm sure you're all thinking its time to double down! 

You all can all dream and call for Mitt Romney's beheading, now.  I mean seriously. The mother f&cker is a 1%er just f&cking us in the middle class.  Wouldn't that be great?  He may not be a true" teabagger" but he is a Republican.  Close enough, right? At the very least y'all  should burn down one of Mitt's houses.  (see Joy Behar for more bright ideas).

From the abundance of vile posts by liberals here on First Read and other outlets it's apparent such a display would be relished.  

Can you give me a G?  Can you give me an A, can you give me a B,B,Y?

Shout out to Gabby Giffords.  What was it that Obama said after she took a bullit to the head?  A "lack of civility".  As I recall, his call for decency lasted all of 8 minutes on this board from the leftwing hate merchants.

Understandable though.  We all know Obama says one thing but means another.  He is after all the great divider!  Yet, I'm certain had Game of Thrones used obama's likeness....well just imagine the news coverage that would garner.  

Oh well, you guys are still the best in my book.   Keep at it.  

America is so proud!

Seriously, where would we be without you?

You're...seriously blaming the 'loony left', about 50% of the US population, for an image in Game of Thrones?

Really?

That's like me blaming you for the republican economic melt-down/wars/whatever. You didn't set the policy or kick it into gear.

And where would you be without 'liberals'? Is that a serious question?

Civil Rights Acts, Workers Protection Acts, Unemployment Insurance, Women's Suffrage, All of computing and high-tech, nuclear power...those are all liberal ideas, executed by 'flaming libtards'.

Get a handle on reality, man.

Rob in Mass - I was totally appalled at HBO using Bush's head in their game.

Now, what is exactly your problem? The "left" didn't invent this game. Give it a rest.

I'm disgusted at you for all the hate filled stupidity of that Westboro pastor who pickets soldier's funerals. He's on the far right! See how totally stupid that sounds? Well, do you?

If you're going to pick a fight, at least pick a sensible one!

Rob in Mass - I was totally appalled at HBO using Bush's head in their game.

Chill out guys, HBO apologized. They rented a bunch of heads to do a scene on "Game of Thrones". Nobody noticed (LOL) that one of them was "W's". I didn't see it, but I imagine it was pretty funny. (LMAO)

There's an article about it somewhere on the web..

You're...seriously blaming the 'loony left', about 50% of the US population, for an image in Game of Thrones?

PS - I on the other hand applaud Obama for his drone strategy.

Spanky-

“A year from now I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress,” said Obama. ”But there’s still going to be some pain out there. If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition

Spanky, how cynical!!

You sound lie a member of FUX News Nation; distorting and going around lying constanly.

Shame on you for mischacterizing the President.

The 'loony left' gets about 50% of the popular vote.

So do the RWNJ.

And I totally hate his drone strategy. Har har!

Tek - how exactly has he delivered?

Or more precisely, what has he delivered?

We got some things going up. Like Jobless claims, Inflation, foreclosures, and deficits.

Then of course we got some stuff going down. Like GDP, Real Estate values, and of course earnings.

He understood it was jacked up when he came in. He said he would fix it. He did not.

What he did do was push healthcare. But that failed too.

Bev., dear - that was a direct quote from O himself.

Was he being cynical? Was he a member of Fox nation?

Oh and did he mis-characterize himself?

Bev. do you even know what that word means?

I'm disgusted at you for all the hate filled stupidity of that Westboro pastor who pickets soldier's funerals. He's on the far right! See how totally stupid that sounds? Well, do you?

When Westboro was brewing the chorus of disapproval was just as loud for both sides of the political spectrum. My beef is how deplorable Bush was treated and how the looney left thinks it even comes close in comparison to how Obama is treated.

The vitriol is not even close.

I just pointed it out, man.

A net difference of 4.4 million jobs from Bush's low.

That's a big delivery. You might not like it, or agree with it/how it's calculated. I don't know.

I just know the bottom line was 4.44 million.

In my book, that's a big delivery.

I think our disagreement is in expectations.

You want it FIXED NOW. I am content with BEING FIXED OVER TIME.

GT just proved my point. He finds Bush's head on a stake funny. I just wonder how much he would chuckle if Obama's head was on the stick.

Spanky - no, it was NOT a direct quote in context. You DO know what that means, right?

Rob in MASS - you sound like a first grader. Are you jumping up and down too?

Obama can't fool the masses anymore ....

He's done ....

His poll numbers are in the dumps more and more everyday now .... "LOL"

Get a grip, dude. Obama's had a couple of bad weeks. In June.

Nope Tek - there are far less people employed now than in 2008.

And really numbers and stats are neat, but sentiment is really the bottom line. Few few think we are going in the right direction.

How about this Tek - do you really thin this is a recovery? If you do, based upon what objective economic indicators?

Uh, Sanity - not a direct quote? Really? And can you point out for me where I said anything about context? See I just gave the quote.

Oh man, it really is that bad for you,eh.

You know i don't, but it doesn't prove anything. Obama, in my economic eyes, is fixing the mess Bush's whitehouse left behind.

Someone peed in the pool and now it needs to be cleaned.

But for some real doom and gloom, I don't think the Western economies will fully recover until we adopt a more german-style protectionist model :) I've said it numerous times.

Which is funny, since Protectionism used to be a lynchpin of the Republican Party...until they got greedy with all that cheap foreign labor and the Free Trade Agreements. My money says it gets co-opted by the democrats in a few years. Re-urbanization and protectionism moving forward.

I do, however, think Obama is a much better fit to our national discourse than Romney.

Rob in Mass - we'll agree - Republican vitriol is totally out of control. And if you think the Westboro pastor is anything but far right you need your head examined!

@ Seeking Fred Phelps is a registered Democrat and run in several primaries. Personally I don't think his personal party affiliation has anything to do with him being crazy but perhaps you should learn to "seek" with that Google thing before you speak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

Sure it was a mess, but Tek he said he understood it, and would fix it. In fact he said he only would desrve one term if he could not.

You hire a plumber who says he can fix the broken pipe. You hire him, he fails. You gonna hire him again to fix that same pipe he assured you he could fix?

Nope. It's just not the way we operate.

But as for the national discourse - and that of Germany - it's all about spending less than you take in from here on in. Economic reality has caught up. Europe is toast and Germany cannot, and will not save it.

But hen again Tek, I got some Natty light on the line.

Now that's a fabrication.

He said if there wasn't some recovery.

Not 'fixed'. But 'recovering'.

Again. Our disagreement is in expectations.

And we don't compare well to anyone. Even Germany used a brutal Keynesian model right after the crisis in order to right their import/export market. Then they cut back after 2 years of high-availability monetary economics.

Now they are somewhat balanced, but that's not done on the government side and yo know it. It's because, trade-wise, they make their trade earnings cover their government spending.

Something we used to do, but forgot how around the time NAFTA was signed. A joint Grinch/Billy screwup.

Come on Tek - I expect crap like that from the likes of Sanity, but I quoted the language above.

GO back and read it again. See the part about 'If I don't have this done...'

Or you going Clinton on us? What is the definition of 'done?'

Tek?

Spanky - we know all we get is crap from you. Don't you have some court reporting to do?

@ Seeking Don't you have some Google research to do? Did you see Fred Phelps is actually a registered Democrat.

So?

Politicians grand-stand. If not, they wouldn't get elected.

I think this is more a lesson in critical-thinking than anything else.

Do you really think Romney is going to lower unemployment to 6% within his first year and all the other rubbish he's spouting?

Was Bush correct with his message of 'compassionate conservatism' and how it would benefit the middle class? Or how Homeownership was part of the American Dream and how all americans had a right to it?

Critical-thinking and setting expectations.

If you don't do either, you'll be fairly unhappy.

I am content with 'recovering'. Those were my initial expectations and they've been filled.

All initial expectations with Bush Jr were filled also, i expected to end up bankrupt as a state and the subsequent downturn didn't really hurt me much. He was a fool and we knew it collectively. We still voted him in. How were we suprised when he did foolish things?

spank et al,

you want the economy to improve? You want it to be gone via the private sector? Then go out and buy a new car and get the economy moving. Other wise you're just blowing smoke.

As VP Biden told the grads....."tolerance, respect and understanding"......great words to put into action and live by them.

So Jody, speaking of negativity, do you have any idea what the unemployment rate is for people 18-25?

Well hey, at least Biden didn't have to plagiarize this speech, so that alone is a step in the right direction.

Nice work Joe!

Jody,

I saw some pic's of VP Biden & his daughter at her wedding last weekend!

Absolutely gorgeous bride & proud Papa!

Yeah man!

After all, 2,215,000, were lost in Obama's first 3 months of office alone.

Those are totally Obama's fault.

Good catch, bud. Glad we have the geniuses out in force today.

Not true. In looking at facts and figures, the national debt increase is normal spending that has been in place even before Obama took office. So he is responsible for no increase.

The right wing is selling the big lie. Truth be told, tax cuts we couldn’t afford and two unfunded wars were a main cause of national debt increase.

And if people are silly enough to believe Romney or Ryan on their budget plan, in which more tax cuts and spending cuts are the answer, then they really are fools.

Let’s all think back to September 2008 and the financial storm that had developed and the whole government and the rest of the world that was unraveling in financial markets. The jobs were going down so fast that and the United States had suffered the worst crisis sense the great depression.

Then Obama takes over on January 20, 2009, and suddenly it’s his fault. No way! Obama stepped into this storm on the brink of depression and Obama has done a GREAT job of turning the country around.

I honestly have to say anyone that doesn’t recognize this fact is pretty out of touch with reality, and living in “Rush World.”

Hard to ignore the $800 billion wasted on all of those "not so shovel" ready jobs that was supposed to bring on the recovery summer. I keep waiting for his laser like focus on jobs and the economy.

Are you better off now than you were 3 1/2 years ago? I'm not and I only see it getting worse if this bumbler is re-elected

You? I like you. That's rational-talk.

I do disagree, however.

Our founding fathers were flat-out Radicals. They were the far, far left. Conducting a Social Engineering experiment of epic proportions.

Do you think they intended for calcification and stagnation? They intentionally left the Constitution incomplete, because that's exactly what they didn't want. They didn't want the society to grow complacent, and they didn't want us to quit trying to reach the heavens.

It seems that too many people have a fear-fueled worship of dead radicals...without ever seeming to realize that they were THE radicals of their day and age. I think they'd have more in common with the Progressive Caucus than the tea party. One looks for solutions aggressively, one tries to pull back. I can't imagine old Madison espousing 'pull back and freeze everything right where it is!'

The ultimate irony is that the Founders were acting to stop a corporate monopoly, the East India Tea Company. That's why the use of the name "Tea Party" is anathema. They are acting AGAINST what the Founders did.

But, "teabaggers," the first name they chose, works nicely.

...if that's what you got from history, kudos.

What I got was, they were more interested in local self-governance than being a world-spanning superpower.

And that they didn't like big corporations using their political might to destroy local economies. har!

Remember, the tea was practically free save for the taxes. It was intentionally undercutting the localeconomy and driving Colonials (small businessmen) out of business.

Strange how history never changes, isn't it?

Absolutely. The truth is that Jefferson in particular worried about two things derailing the new country. The religious and corporations.

That hasn't changed either.

He sure did Bev.

But, um from where did the Trillion dollar deficits come from in the following two years?

Oh and Bev - did he, or did he not say he'd cut them in half?

The trillions came from the Great Recession that began in 2007, two unbudgeted wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and from tax cuts for the wealthy (job creators) which created deficits, not jobs. The world did not Etch-A-Sketch itself on inauguration day.

You want the president to fire people in order to ammend your budget. Doesn't help your unemployment rate much, does it?

Affinity - Do you have any idea where that "Etch-a-Sketch" insult originated or are you just vomiting back left-wing slogans that some other idiot fed you? Here are the facts for those who actually care about the truth:

Romney's communications director Eric Fehrnstromon referred to the shift from a primary campaign to a presidential campaign by saying "I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch-A-Sketch" Of course, Romney's opponents immediately pretended the remark had some significance.

Contrast this with Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor and mentor for 20 years saying, “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color.”

Intelligent people will recognize that the "etch-sketch" comment is a cute analogy by one of Romney's campaign workers; while saying that AIDS is a means of genocide against Blacks. represents a core belief that Obama has absorbed.

Right. Cute lying to voters. Right, Obama has no discernment, or is that just "Ditto Heads"? Pathetic spin. Dizzy?

And O's budget [you know the one that got slapped down on a unanimous bi-partisan basis] called for trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see.

Dude loves him so deficit spending. Big deficits.

It's the blue model.

It has failed. Tek - you voting to increase your Cali taxes?

Yes.

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"

Our problem is having a 2T economy and still being managed as a sub-economy, including paying for a sizable portion of the other states out there. Give us the tools every other 2T economy has, and let us develop our own economic policies, and we'd be killing it.

For such a large economy, our unemployment is still lower than most of our competitors :) England, France, Italy...all those pesky 'austerity' nations, yah?

No kidding. How would you stop the biggest recession in post-depression history overnight? The Great Depression went on for over ten years, even though Republicans worked with Democrats on solutions that helped. This bunch of Republican anti-American partisans have obstructed every proven process that has been presented. The private sector is going it alone, except for the stimulus that saved the entire banking system and the highly successful rescue of the automobile industry. At least Bush began the fight back to solvency. Today's syndicate is, with malice and premeditation, trying to ruin recovery so they can blame the president. This time the enemy is in the government.

This didn't become "the biggest recession in post-depression history" until after Obama started his OJT approach to fiscal management!

When Jughead was elected by dimwits, I could stretch my retirement check the entire month and have a little left over. Now, my check lasts about 3 weeks yet liberal nutjobs keep insisting that things are better.

Why is skin color so terribly important to the Left?

The tea party is nothing more than average Americans who are tired of paying huge tax burdens to support a bloated, ineffective government that yearns to become even bigger, more bloated and less effective.

I'll go out on a limb here - if there wasn't so much government waste, crony capitalism, govenrment interference and if all of the BS prgrams were scrapped and the fraud was eliminated, I bet we could almost cut our budget in half and still provide services to the poor and handicapped. Just dont look my way for more taxes until the crap spending is done.

Oh, note to Michele: All those lavish vacations you are so inclined to go on the taxpayers dime? Uh Uh. That is over. If you want a million dollar vacation, you pay for it because you are now one of the 1%