You have absolutely no clue about my moral values.....what a completely meaningless sentence. And not a very good try at insulting me.

Economics is a moral science and has one of its tenents 'moral hazard'.

1. Government can legislate fair play and prevent fraud through regulation.

2. Financial wealth is not created by labor but by creating a speculative bubble.

3. The wealthy got their capital from the government who gave them property from the commons, such as resources, tax expenditures, and corporate welfare.

4. Money circulating in an economy has a multiplier of 5 - for every 1$ that is earned and spent in the economy another $5 is created.

5. The 1% have the idea that they don't have to work because they can take their wealth from the 99% by interest, fees and speculation

Corporate welfare kings want it all.

So you think that is whats going on? What a trite little list of "truisms" you have there. Doesn't seem relevant to anything though.

What cons can't understand:

When you talk for 30+ years about protecting the "job creators", it would make your argument believable if they would create some jobs! The majority of jobs in our country have been created under Democratic President while Republican Presidents have created the majority of debt.

Prove it celticman2...................

Of course it would not be relevant to you upstate....

Things conservatives don't understand-

1-The wealthy are not solely responsible for their success.

2- Success in not the result of hard work.

Given these two these two facts, I don't know how much authority the wealthly have over their own wealth.

So your success is the result of not working.....sounds like a liberal on the system to me.

So corporate welfare kings are liberal?

Democrats believe in the idea that anyone, regardless of birth, can work hard to better themselves. They believe that every child has the right to a good education, and if they work hard they can raise themselves above the station into which they were born. They don't think everyone should be equal, just that everyone should have the opportunity if they choose.

Republicans believe that everyone needs to stay in the same social and wealth status in which they were born, and poor people should stay that way.

As far as general "hard work" goes, poor people work a LOT harder, generally speaking, than rich people. Go drive through the poor neighborhoods at 5 am, and you'll see people waiting for the bus, off to the first of two full-time menial jobs to support their family.

GCCAL, yes..you know, there is a reason for the term "trust fund baby" you know...

GCCal, you've been reading to much Ayn Rand, remember she died a bitter and lonely adulterer. Her whole philosophy was built on her hatred for the lost wealth of her aristocratic family. She is the sad "Fountainhead" of a generation of Repuknics and their ideology of "I've got mine, you get yours"! The irony of the Ayn Rand philosophy is that in operation and taken to its extreme it ensures the enevitable economic and societal revolution that led to the collapse of her family wealth.

GCCAL: The idea that most people want something for nothing is getting old. Most people, including probably you, are not lazy..

I paid 35% income taxes last year and made a considerable amount less than Mitt Romney. I don't see any reason someone making $24 million a year should pay 13.9% and someone like me, that made $325K should pay 35%...

And if you look it up, RED states (other than Texas) get more in federal assistance than that pay in...Most Blue states do not.. Alaska for example gets $1.87 in federal assistance for every $1 they pay in....and it's like that in most RED states. So by your argument, it's the RED states (populated mainly by the GOP) that's getting the handouts....right?

GCCal

Something libbies can't understand:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of
prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for
without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not
first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because
the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea
that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they
work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Something "libbies" can definitely smell out of Republicons and I just need one point. Your whole idea on the life and liberties in America is premised on wealth. On money.

Don't you think that people can have an exceptional life without wealth? Money is needed, but greed isn't, and that is what this Republicon party is about. That is what you are about.

Sniff...sniff...I knew I smelled bacon.

Romney's economic plan for Europe.....you have got to be kidding me....the President, any President, has very little control over what other countries do or don't do. Geez..............you are really reaching and struggling now.

Romneys plan is to sell Europe some more faulty derivatives that will make him more money.

When the stock market was rising because US corporations were growing profit from overseas, Obama would take the credit. He should take blame when overseas hurts the economy.

Romney's economic plan for the U.S.A. IS the economic plan of Europe: create massive debt with giveaways to the wealthy and huge borrowing and then scream that the sky is falling and you have GOT to slash spenidng, fire people and rob from the treasury. Come to think of it, that was his economic plan at Bain so we already know what Romney is planning even if he is trying to keep it hidden until after the election. Sorry Mittens, we are on to you

Cripes, if you knew what his plan was for Europe dls.......then what is you point about waiting for him to explain it.

He has absolutely no plans, no strategy, and no ideas except one - keep hammering away at blaming Obama for Party Boy Bush's screwups, and try to convince people that the less than total recovery from the biggest economic disaster in 80 years is all the fault of the guy that inherited a house under forclosure in 2009.

Romneycare is the failure here. He couldn't even beat McCain. Let's send him back to his Mormon dream world and their multiple levels of heaven. For good.

He can always go back to predatory hostile takeovers and laying people off. He likes to fire people. Remember?

Actually Romney did mention China.. One of his first acts is to label them a currency manipulator and impose taffifs on them..

You know, Herbert Hoover did that during the great depression, impose tarrifs in theory to protect american jobs. Resulted in a tariff war and almost all economists agree, lengthened the depression. Most conclude that act alone was the single worst thing you could do in a recession/depression.

Romney's clueless..you know he never studied economics or history..

GCCal,

Romney's economic plan for Europe.....you have got to be kidding me....the President, any President, has very little control over what other countries do or don't do. Geez..............you are really reaching and struggling now.

Well, geez, the EU (and China, Japan) seems to have a lot of influence on WS! They seem to effect the markets every day.

And, by your logic, if POTUS doesn't have influence over other countries then they have no control over the economy, at all. No foreign and domestic policies? Geez....what in the world does the POTUS have control of? Hmmm.....I wonder.

That bacon is crisp now. Sniff....

Obama has no plans either,

Unless mounting a massive PR campaign badmouthing Congress will fix everything.

Don don don, stop listening to fox buddy. They are the TeaPublican propagand machine.

At this point, Romneycare is hoping nobody will notice that he has never produced anything, has no plan, has no firm positions on anything from abortion to gun control to foreign policy, and no new ideas of his own at all. He plans to recycle Party Boy Bush's failed presidency.

Anybody that votes for this fool deserves whatever they get. I only hope that they take the hit; not me.

Romeny's plan is the Ryan plan......and of course self-deportation...

And the Ryan plan gives a $5 trillion tax cut to the wealthy....and the elimination of ANY tax on capital gains...so he'd gain 13.9% of his annual $24 million income.. Doesn't matter if he's re-elected, can you imagine how much he'd make with 4 years of NO taxes.....

And the GOP complains about some poor person not paying taxes...those bastards

DON9876543 - Obama put out a jobs plan that would have created $1 million more jobs, and it was paid for... He has a plan, and congress has a plan, which is to stop anything that helps the economy.

Going after that lame congress is exactly what he should be doing...they only way to get out of this mess is to get back control of congress and get a filibuster proof Senate...and the later is impossible...

But the blame for the last two years rest with Boehner and the Tea party congress....

Read my post 18.1 if you dare to find out who the King of Flip Flops really is......in his own words.

So when Obama flipped on the debt limit, you were not smarter than that.......geez.....

Folks could write a book about Obama changing his mind. They are major issues.

Etch-a-sketch Romney doesn't flip-flop, he only changes his tune whenever the wind of public opinion changes direction - a well oiled weathervane.

You were well oiled by Obama. Apparently his flip flops are just fine with you.

Too bad Mitt heads! You have a dishonest candidate that is Norquist's dream: someone with enough working digits to hold a pen. He was a failure as governor (and we would know more about how big of a failure if he hadn't taken all the government computers and destroyed the files) and he was a failure as a job creator when he was a vulture capitalist at Bain. What he IS a success at is uniting various factions that couldn't stand him before because he is all they've got in their quest to defeat Obama. No plan, no sense, no morals just Mittens.

I won't be surprised to hear that Romney has claimed he is really a minority woman. He's all over the place on everything else.

Geez....laker....for a while there I was sure you were talking about Obama.

I hate to tell you GCCal, but the reason the entire world economy is still here is because the American voters rejected McCain/Palin. You remember McCain, right? The guy that spanked Romneycare in the last Repugnican race? That was the guy that declared in September, 2008 that 'the fundamentals of the American economy are strong'.

That same day Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy.

Try to remember the past, people.

And here I thought only the people who disagree with Obama are bigots...guess I was wrong..

Whats good for the goose. Most republicans think Obama is a muslim and are racist. Birther losers.

Nope I have never care what religion Obama uses, I also wanted either Rice or Powell to be President, and I could not care less where Obama was born. Rather I care where he lives now.

royalstar05 is a bigot - thanks for confirming that for us.

RIGHT GCCal, just keep telling yourself that. And Working, i could care less what you think.

My...my...my....did I hurt your feelings? And what I said was true where you care less or not. Plus I am retired.

Try to structure a sentence right you moron.

Well, well.....more hurt feelings. Feel better now?

And I do believe it is "Try to structure a sentence correctly, you moron".

Oh, you really hurt me with your retorts.

Anyway enough debating with a fool because you will best me everytime with your vast experience.

My God above, why are rethuglicans SO stupid? Oh thats right, mental issues. Ok i have it now.

The Moron religion is not cheap. It is one of the most successful corporations masquerading as a church in the modern world. They are awash in cash. Believe me, they are putting it to work to try to get their empty suit into the White House, where he will work to enrich them even more.

Right on Starderup, they are right up there with Scientology. Weirdos.

gccal, glad you came to you're senses.

@royalstar05 says "Romney says talk is cheap. Well, so is the Mormon religion."

Congratulations royalstar05! For your expression of extreme bigotry against a religious minority, you have won a lifetime standard membership in the Ku Klux Klan.

If you will now show equivalent hatred for another religious, racial, or ethnic group, you will be upgraded to a deluxe membership.

Royalstar

your senses.

You had a 50/50 chance of getting it right and you blew it. You can't even pick the right word and you expect people to be influenced by your political views? Lucky for you libbies are so easily led.

The mormons are kind of lunatics. I have been reading to try to become a little informed, and most fundamentalist Christians should do the same. For all I know, Romney is indeed the antichrist wanting to come to world power. He will probably surround himself with antisaints, and there goes the country.

Kannin, i dont care about the religion part of this deal, just the idiots who believe in such drivel. They are mindless people. Come on man, a guy who runs around in the woods looking at plates but noone else can see them. Gets tared and feathered for wanting to have sex with other mens wives. Its not bigotry, an ability to see the forest for the trees. You are the one who is a bigot for not knowing what you are talking about and then calling me out. You're an idiot. And yes Sheila, you ARE correct.

o'really = childish.

Taxing the rich at 100% will not even come close to correcting the problem.....the problem was found by the Grace Commission in 1984...........

That is just a political wedge issue that Obama puts in all bills for partisan politics . Won't give us squat.

Who is saying anything about a 100% tax? Fox? Sarah Palin? Some anonymous conservtard?

When you consider that the problem of coddling the ultra rich has been going on for over 30 years it will take a long time to work ourselves out of the mess that Reagan, Nixon, Bush et al have put us in. As for that "taxing the rich at 100% nonsense" that is just another nonsense statement floated by fox and other righties to try and draw people's attention from the real problem. Too little revenue and too much tax spending for the wealthy and corporations.

Can you not comprehend, upstate? Anything up to and including 100% will not solve the problem.

He was making the point that taxing rich only won't solve the problems and trying to imply that is dishonest.

You know laker man, I really don't care if the rich are taxed more. My problem is that your side thinks this will SOLVE ALL OUR PROBLEMS and I think that is incorrect.

GC CAL: No one on this side believes taxing the rich will solve all our problems. What we need is tax policy that levels the playing field so that both the wealthy and the middle class grow at the same rate.

And we have to make tough choices....but there's a lot of easy ones too. For example, oil companies shouldn't be getting subsidies when the price of oil is over $40/barrell. That's what the oil executives testified to congress....that's something that's an easy choice.

We should look at all subsidies, mainly agriculture, and yes, we'll have to do something with medicare, everyone knows it's not sustainable. But not covering people in there latter years, like the Ryan plan proposes is a non-starter..

Gccal,

My problem is that your side thinks this will SOLVE ALL OUR PROBLEMS and I think that is incorrect.

Well...that is the least of your REAL problems, but getting back to increasing taxes for the rich, yes, it will solve many problems....and increasing public sector jobs.

If we do just those two things we would be on track to pre-Bush era status.

The strange thing about Obama is that he is a great public speaker before a large crowd, but it is said that he lacks communication skills in person to person interactions..

You don't call a emergency room physician who resusitates a dying patient a failure; President Obama resusitated a dying capitalist system and now the patient is in recovery. A lot different than the conservatives who would have pulled the plug and waited to see if the dying patient would recover on his own.

Please tell to us how much "The Obama policies passed into law when he had complete control of Congress" have cost America.

I bet when you have the real answer, you'll pivot away from your own statement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/adding-to-the-deficit-bush-vs-obama/2012/01/31/gIQAQ0kFgQ_graphic.html

Another of the wing nut talking points: "when Obama had complete control of Congress" If they really believe that they are deluded and if not the are liars. When did Obama have "complete control of Congress" There was never a "super majority" when you had self-serving Lieberman, Ben Nelson, and the congress woman from LA. The Republicans filibustered the majority of what Obama tried to do, especially tax cuts for the middle class, help for small business, stopping tax breaks to Big Oil and corporations that moved jobs overseas. Cons lose again!

They passed Obama care even though no one has the slightest idea how to pay for what we already promise.

They passed Obama care even though no one has the slightest idea how to pay for what we already promise.

ACA was a bipartisan bill. Republicans demanded their pound of flesh in that legislation and they got it in order to get their votes.

Obama has never had complete control of Congress, despite your revisionist history. The last President to have majorities in both houses was Party Boy Bush. Maybe you don't read the papers or can't read at all, and rely on Faux 'News'.

I wonder if Romney will ever draw a large enough crowd to judge his speaking capabilities. Right now they are kind of nonexistent. I shudder to think of him in sensitive international talks.

BearDown

Do you think you would have been better off prior to those policies?

The country would have been ruined without them, don't fool yourself by something you deem solid by one news article's perspective. Come on, now.

Do you think you would have been better off prior to those policies?

Conservatives often make the mistake of thinking because we all allign ourselves politically that everything must be partisan. That's so far from the truth....unless you're a conservative.

I accept that the GOP occassionally has good policy. I accept that we elect politicians to represent all of us. So when a good idea comes from the right, I embrace it.

Very good analogy. The GOP House would be the doctors complaining that the patient needs a blood infusion because it's his own fault that he didn't store HIS OWN blood in anticipation of getting hit by a bus.

The fed has the most control over the economy and independent of the president. In 2008 , Bush and Democrats started work on bailouts and Gm to help rescue the economy. Bush passed many stimulus things as Bush.

How much different is a tax cut to all brackets and stimulus spending ? Giving out money or tax cuts are the same.

Even Romneycare had to admit he was wrong when he proposed letting Detroit fail and wither on the vine. Of course, now, he will say that he was in favor of the bailouts. It is what Romneycare does. FlipFlopFlipFlopUhWhoIsMyAudienceAndWhatDoTheyWantToHear? Quick, write me some cool talking points and make sure you have 'failed President' liberally sprinkled throughout. Thanks.

Starderup, I like your style! ;)

Obama never asked to repeal the Bush tax cuts except for one bracket and would have kept the vast majority anyway.

Lesson !:

In 1984 then President Reagan charged the Grace Commission with the task of uncovering government waste and abuse. The commission came back with over 1000 recommendations. In this cover letter, Peter Grace, a DEMOCRAT and now deceased said the following.

Resistance to additional income taxes would be even more widespread if people were aware that:

• One-third of all their taxes is consumed by waste and inefficiency in the Federal Government as we identified in our survey.
• Another one-third of all their taxes escapes collection from others as the underground economy blossoms in direct proportion to tax increases and places even more pressure on law abiding taxpayers, promoting still more underground economy-a vicious cycle that must be broken.
• With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government.

Now not one Congress ever passed even one recommendation thus we have the debt to revenue problem of today.

Fixing our infra structure would create millions of jobs. Spout your federal government waste all you want, that won't fix any roads. Bain capital won't fix any roads. The "job creators" (friggin' joke) can only barter so much crap from China. Put America to work, pass a jobs bill. But that might make Obama look good, we can't have that. Better that our country falls apart physically.

Obama never asked to repeal the Bush tax cuts except for one bracket and would have kept the vast majority anyway.

Obama was always fine with repealing the Bush tax cuts for people who make more than $200k/year.

Another reasonable tax position held by POTUS.

Don: Wrong and wrong! First, the Bush tax cuts do NOT need to be repealed: when Bush crammed them down the throats of the American public they had a 10 year limit and were set to automatically expire at the end of that time. When Obama wanted to extend unemployment benefits the Republicans refused to do that by threatening to flilbuster the measure unless they got to extend the tax cuts for the ultra wealthy for another year. It is time we end this entitlement for the wealthy and allow the Bush tax cuts, which are the major driver of our debt, to expire.

GCCal, since you bring up your hallowed savior, Ronald 'Here, let me chop some wood for your photographers' Reagan, tell me how wonderful his trickle down, voodoo economics worked.

<crickets>

GCcal,

Hey, thanks for another hollow lesson, from 1984, no less.

Any findings from that would be considered relevant today? No one ever doubted government waste, but Repbulicons are out of touch when it comes to trying to solve any of the current problems we have now.

Thanks for playing, come again. XD

Now that is totally DS (d as in donkey not bull)

We can make a case that in some ways , Obama is George Bush on steroids. Bush passed Medicare drug plan, Obama pushed Obama care.

Bush lead the economy into a hole

Obama lead the economy out

Bush lost 800,000 jobs a month

Obama created 60,000

Complain all you want about the recovery being slow, there IS a recovery. A recovery from the failed policies of a president who cut taxes during a recession and 2 wars. What happened, the economy tanked.

Obama comes along and increases spending, the economy starts picking up.

GOP takes over the House and puts an end to all domestic spending, the economy starts to suffer again.

With all other things equal, we can say definitely that GOP policies will tank the economy.

I don't want to argue with you, but I see the economy completely tanking anyway,

GC: that is how cons deal with truth: deny it and try to change the subject.

Don: wrong. The Bush medicare drug plan was a give away to Big Pharma in that did not allow any negotiation for reduced price due to volume and was not paid for. ObamaCares is a first step in ending the stranglehold that Big Insurance Corporation have on our health care system. And, as much as Flipper wants to distance himself from the fact, he told the nation that he advised Obama on the health care bill and said that the federal government should do what he did in Mass.

GCcal, you really like DS, huh? Better than BS? *eyeroll* =S

I don't want to argue with you, but I see the economy completely tanking anyway,

I can't wrap my mind around people who would say a .1 uptick in unemployment means doom and gloom for the economy but the 1.9 decrease over the last 2 years wasn't a massive success.

It seems to me that 1.9 is a much larger change than .1 and considering that it was done over years and not just one month, it's more indicative of the trend.

That doesn't mean all is well, but that somewhere in there, our policies worked.

His firm bought companies that were going bankrupt anyway and tried to save them . You cannot be 100% successful and the go down anyway. Some he did save.

Don, you make that sound noble when, in fact, it was predatory. David is right that Romney destroyed jobs.

They were going under anyway without cost cutting . How would would you save a company on the verge of bankruptcy without cutting costs ? Were there not jobs lost at GM due to restructuring by the government ?

Don: it is NOT "cost cutting" to borrow money from a bank in the name of the company that you want to buy, load up the company with additional debt and then pull 10s or 100s of Millions of Dollars out of the company - including pension and health care money - and then walk away leaving the company in much worse shape than it was so that they have no choice but to go bankrupt. I believe that is what organized crime calls "busting a place out". And that is the guy you want to be President???

lakerman2, you are confusing Don####### with the facts. Slow down. He can only absorb so much in one day.

Speaking of which, are we talking about The Don? The one that is campaigning and fund raising for Romneycare? The one that wears a dead squirrel on his head that is finding himself with about 200 other birthers in Detroit's Ford Stadium talking about Kenya?

Because that would actually make a lot of sense.

going down or not, that still doesnt excuse putting up a fraction of the purchase price in cash while leveraging the rest, then paying yourself out nearly 5 times what you put up thus causing the company to go into BK. That was 500 + stores of employees with jobs who lost them so he could turn a profit...and KB toys wasnt the only one. But believe what you want..how long have the GOP been saying they must keep taxes down on employers so they can create jobs, only for the "employers" to then take the hand outs and proceed to take the jobs overseas for cheaper labor!?! Been 8 years now, and NO RESULTS! Time for them to admit its bs and try a different approach.

Maybe the animal house is better than the zoo we have now.

Someone trying to say Romney is a worse liar than Barry is really nuts.

Hahaha, and Rmoney will be grabbing the scissors to cut our hair!

Don and cons: You have GOT to know that you are backing a flippy floppy liar who hates animals and people - except I guess the ones he can tie to the roof of his car and the ones he LOVES to fire!

I have analyzed many of Obama's statements and could write a book about his dishonesty. Even the liberal media called his material on the costs as less than honest. I have noticed distortion, exaggeration, leaving out relevent facts and so on in just about every Obama speech.

Don: provide us with links to your analysis please

Don: Yea, I'd like to see one as well.

poopdle...you are a stupid woman and please do us a favor and post in your own country....or do they hate you as much as we do? and you spell poorly....guess your schools suck in France!

sigh, you're an idiot. So you think Obama didn't spend enough? 5 trillion in 4 years? Are you nuts? Do you have children, and if you do would you like them to grow up in Greece?

I think it is very very simple. If you are such a big fan of social programs, socialized medicine, MOVE TO FRANCE! They just elected a socialist president, and you will be very happy...

The Bush tax cuts have added 7 trillion dollars to the debt.

Ok, there you go again with the Socialist talk. This, for a person that the American Socialist Party has publicly disavowed several times, and never endorsed.

If I was called a Nazi, at least it would help if the American Nazi Party endorsed me. I simply don't have enough time to educate you fools. Obama is not a Socialist. Not a Muslim. Not an alien. (Like the 'God' that Mittens thinks was born as a man on the planet Kolob). What the hell are you people smoking, and why won't you share?

I'll be here, waiting for your proof to back up your claim, because that is all that is. The FACT is, there is NO WAY you can even come close to proving that a tax cut in a changing economy has added to or reduced a deficit.

I know you liberals don't enjoy dealing in facts because it ends up exposing the majority of your lies and random false claims like " The US only have 2% of the world's oil" but people really aren't as stupid as you think they are. Things are bad enough in this country, that people are taking the time to educate themselves about what is going on, and finding the truth, which is why Obama is walking a tightrope as an incumbent President, in JUNE... Viva November!

Star,

name one policy of the Obama admin that does not fall in line with a socialist style government. Thanks!

Non - Almost every policy you name that involves GOVERNMENT has some level of socialism embedded in it. The Bush Tax cuts could be called Socialist, because it re-distributed wealth. You'd probably call any policy to regulate the environmnet Socialistic...even though Nixon created the Environmental protection agency.

But here's one, his policy on wanting to closing GITMO....how is that socialistic...and don't go off in another direction on whether or not it was implemented. It was his policy, and if he could have gotten congress to allow the prisoners to be brought to leavenworth he would have finished the job...

Hey Non Marxist/Socialist (you sure?)

Being a proud Greek, I take exception to your incentive inspired comment about growing up there. You have no freakin idea what its like to grow up there, or what is going on there, except what Fox is selling you, troll.

name one policy of the Obama admin that does not fall in line with a socialist style government

Okay, the very first one, the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay act. Or, is that too lib for you?

I have a recurring theme, in my head, for folks like yourself. Pink Floyd The Wall.

And what is ComradeObama a commisar

al: you are confused, i fear. Socialist and communist are two different things. You had better check with your fox paymasters and see what is the slur du jour!

You do then why did you vote for one.

laker,

You're saying someone is confused, right after calling Romney a fascist. Irony.

I'm not a George Soros sucker either, who outspends the Koch brothers 50:1 on political donations. But we won't talk about him, because he's on our side and has a bit of a "shady past".

non socialist- can you document the 50:1 ratio?

Can you document anything you say?

You do realize Romney has an average donation of approx $700k versus under $250 for Obama and like a 10,000:1 ratio on number of donors

Starderup!!!!

LMAO ROTFL XD Classic!

Socialist/Marxist?

You are so full of it. You surmising that Dems outspend Republicons? Sell that somewhere else, troll.

That being the case then you need to get on the horn and ask Harry Reid why he is sitting on 30 bills in the Senate and refuses to vote on them.

He is still trying to figure out how to draft a budget, from 09.....

Al: yeah my favorite Republicon jobs bill is HR2681 cement industry. Get rid of regs like those requiring breathing apparatus for workers so they dont contract lung cancer.

Wonder which lobbyist paid for this teaparty fart

Would that be a bill were he can spend whatever he wants as long as we flip the bill. Democrats are such hypocrites.

Well said.

I will ask the question again why are you not asking Harry Reid to vote on those 30 bills he is sitting in the Senate.

Question where are the jobs bills that dont hand out cash to the unions. Oh thats right the Democrats havent produced any have they.

How about building the keystone pipeline where is that bill oh yeah Obama squashed that didnt he you hypocrite.

al151998

got this right from cantors web site

my favorite is HR2681-cement sector regulatory relief act.

A number of workers have contracted lung cancer from breathing in cement dust. This bill calls for the relief of these beleagered captains of industry from having to provide these expensive breathing apparatus'.

now thats a jobs bill al151998

He deserves to be a one term president he is worst then Jimmy Carter ever thought of being.

al151998- I answered your stupid jobs bill comment- can you post any fact based reponse or only your "feelings"?

I guess they call you low information voters for a reason

Why dont you face facts Obama is a POS. Its that simple.

oh the poor beleaguered liberal he cant create anything and sucks the life out of everything they touch.

Probably because they were sent forth with some rider that has no bearing on the bill at all. I wish there was a law for one-item legislation.

o'really-1470447

180+ and counting filibusters. More then in the history of the republic.

Now how is he supposed to get around this roundblock?

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I am a crying whinning liberal whats wrong you cant take the same tactics you started.

I have posted many facts why hasnt Harry Reid voted on those bills you chicken sh it. Why did he not sign the Keystone pipeline bill.

Al

Troll. The keystone pipeline:

1) would only create a minute amount of jobs that is only segmented to one private sector arena.

2) we have been drilling more oil than the previous administration has in 8 years.

3) Fact remains that Republicons have filibustered more, regardless, of what, or who started it.

So take your troll a$$ to another Republicon thread that cares for your BS, please. Thank you.

demtothebonehead,

He's supposed to LEAD.

Playing the blame game is not going to work. Waaaa, the Republicans won't let me get my way. Waaaa, waaaa, the Republicans don't want me to be President. They're not playing fair, waaaaaaaaaa. Racists, waaaaa.