"Past 4 years, Democrats have held leadership roles w/opportunities to reach across political aisle. For sake of politics, they haven't."

Yup, GT, Jeb joins the cast of liars. He's another LSOS!

Golly Mark Murray, it's almost like you are not aware of what Holder's up to today.

Mark - is the little hearing and contempt charges against the sitting AG just not that important to you?

YOu guys are so very investigative, and all.

Oh, but I'm sure the article on Holder's fun is next up, right?

Holder wants to "compromise" to avoid a "Constitutional crisis". He ought to be fired for even uttering that vapid phrase.

Meanwhile, in the Senate a third Senator has called for his resignation- and it looks like Claire McCaskill will be next. I don't believe it is because of her deeply held convictions about the role of congress to investigate wrongdoing- I'm pretty sure it's because she's so far down in the polls she might endorse Romney-but,I'm pretty cynical.

On the topic of this story, however, it bears remembering that when confronted by the media about some republican who disagreed with some of his policy proposals, and if he was worried about losing allies in his own party, Reagan responded that someone who agreed with him 80% of the time WAS his ally.

He did not respond that the person in question was "dead to him". That's Don Obama- he kills people by remote control.

Isn't it funny how the very important and necessary House Oversight role is now just a pain in the libbies' asses?

Damn it's going to be funny in a week or so when Obamacare is struck down in whole or part [and really, does it matter?]

The libbie angst against another branch of government will be fantastic.

Poor Obama, the sh!tstorm just keeps getting worse.

Contempt charges brought against someone by Darryl Issa would be a badge of honor to any reasonable person.

I sure hope he gets to the bottom of who leaked Valerie Plame's identity one of these days.

As for whether Jeb Bush is dead to the party, I believe that's the clear inference of what Grover Norquist said about it. And we all know that no one in the party has the guts to stand up to Grover Norquist.

No member of the party has ever said that, either, but it happens to be true.

Move over, Colin Powell.

Liberal heads are exploding daily. They just get over the big- time loss in Wisconsin, and now Holder's about to be held in contempt of congress, Obamacare is down the tubes, family net worth is down 40% while personal income is down 7.7%, . .

The hits just keep on coming, don't they?

Yeah, I'm still waiting for Spanky to explain that thing about net worth and personal income being down, no joe, while corporate profits continue to break records and the income of the 1 percent skyrockets.

And here I thought those were the keys to everything.

Maybe you can sort that out for me, no joe. Spanky doesn't seem to be able to do it.

GT, Chilled, definitely Jeb's rejoined the naybobs again after a brief trip off the reservation. Guess his comment about "his time" to run for president may have been now is more true than he wishes it to be. No way that King Grover will let his remarks go even if he does walk them back.

Sure AM, badge of honor.

We all know this ends badly for Holder, which is why he has withheld the documents in the first place.

If no ill intent, and given the House's proscribed role in oversight, Holder would have just released the documents.

Don't know about you AM, but I want my government to be open and honest. They all work for us. It's all our work product.

'I want to see it.

Simple, right?

Oh and MA - I really cannot explain that for you. My income is not down, nor is my net worth. In fact, all in all I'm doing better now than before. '07 was a ridiculous year for me, having settled a very large first party bad fair case, but by and large revenues are up year to year.

You know like you Anna Molley, she who bills $300 per hour.

I bet Amy would take a rate like that.

Spanky must be over his slap down from Domenico last week so he challenges Mark. Keep up the good work, Spanky. Very enjoyable to watch.

Us liberals find it hard to believe that people are so dumb they would vote to return to a recession on purpose.

First the republicans take a good economy and in 8 years manage to vote into place the largest deficit in our countries history. Then after deregulations, that the republicans want to return to, the republicans crashed our economy. Then the only thing the republicans could think to do is give the banks billions to replace that which they lost by greed.

The republicans created this mess of our economy and then have blocked every bill to actually create jobs here in America. Now the no joes of the world want you to then blame President Obama.

Now the big ideal of the republicans is to follow the same plans that brought England into another recession here in America. The republicans are planning on the people being so full of hate that they will vote against America. Just like now after the republicans crash our economy again they will happily blame anyone but themselves.

Yes and liberals are surprised that any ones hate would be stronger than their love for America. But no joe proves everyday that there is more hate than brains in the republican party.

Yeah - it realy was a slap down.

I call him out on his exit polling which at the time had it a dead even race.

So Steeler, how'd that play out for Dominico, Barrett, or Obama?

And wasn't it just precious that the big cheese, Chuck Todd had to go on TEVEE the very next day and 'splain how the exit polling was so terribly wrong?

Yep, a real 'slap down.'

You used the term, but it does not appear to mean what you think it does, eh Steeler?

So Steeler - $250, $300, or $350 per hour? And good god, with rates like those...really sets you apart from the rest of the fine folk here.

Steeler Fan, definitely was a thing of beauty last week watching Spanky get spanked by Domenico; guess he's a bit like Snookie Joe, come back and complain about a different host and hope for a better outcome. Come to think of it, that's what republicans do, they keep trying to same failed policies that failed for 30 years in the hopes of a different outcome this time.

Spanky get spanked by Domenico; guess he's a bit like Snookie Joe, come back and complain about a different host and hope for a better outcome

If they didn't have something to bitch about - they wouldn't have anything to say...

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." - Plato

Any bets on which catagory those two fall into?

Your revisionist history is amusing, Spanky.

Whatever my billing rate may be, I have more in common with the liberals who post here than with anyone in the 1% or any of the right-wingers who post (you all think you are in the 1%). The liberals are caring, genuine people with rich experiences to share and a lot for me to learn. Have you ever noticed when someone from either side shares a personal experience here, the liberals are the first (and usually only) ones to post a congratulations or note of empathy? Have you ever noticed how positive they are, despite a constant barrage of negativity from folks like you? I am proud to be one of them. We don't keep score by wealth or income---that would be the Republican way.

Spanky --

Don't know about you AM, but I want my government to be open and honest. They all work for us. It's all our work product.

'I want to see it.

Me, too. That's why I'm hoping that Issa will eventually get to the bottom of the Valerie Plame thing, and maybe tell us what was discussed at Dick Cheney's secret meetings with energy companies in 2001 -- you know, the meetings where the agenda for war with Iraq was evidently established.

How do I know? I don't know ... and neither do you.

But that was our "work product," too.

And what about those millions of e-mails that disappeared during the Bush administration. I'm still waiting to see those. Those were "work product," too.

And then, maybe, Issa could find out all about Ronald Reagan's and George H.W. Bush's role in Iran-Contra. As I recall it, Reagan couldn't remember his role. And that pardon to Caspar Weinberger sure left a lot of questions unanswered, didn't it?

Boy, Issa sure has a lot to do, doesn't he?

After which, maybe he could look into the REAL reason why George W. Bush let Osama bin Laden go at Tora Bora, and then maybe where the $20 billion that Bush gave the Pakistanis to fight Al Qaeda actually ended up.

Condoleezza Rice never seemed to know, did she?

But Issa will get to the bottom of it, mark my words.

Issa is the most ethically challenged person in the world. His district really must not give a good, well you know, who they put into office.

Geez, AM, I thought you paid more attention to things. Richard Armitage admitted to being the source of that leak.

I suspect, however, that this is a little game of diversion you are playing. Tell me, was it the news of bipartisan outrage over White House leaks of national security secrets designed to help Obama's campaign that drew you out of your bunker?

If so, it's a pretty big fail. See, the country saw a Special Prosecutor take on that mess- so, rational people are asking why there is none to unmask the identity of someone who has leaked a lot more- with serious ramifications, at least for the Pakistani doctor who helped us locate bin Laden,; Seal Team Six- or, at least the members who were shot down right after the raid; and the double agent who had to be withdrawn because he was named as the mole in the underwear bomb development project.

I guess the only leak that did not endanger any of our people or allies was the news that Don Obama personally put the hit out on people and their families we suspected of being terrorists. That, of course, is far more humane than dunking them in water. At least they die with their skin in-puckered, and are not likely to have a bad hair day afterward.

I too quickly gave Jeb applause for being his own person and telling the truth. Should have known the right wingers would yank his chain for telling the truth. Too bad - he gave at least one Bush some integrity.

So let that be a lesson to all gang - Steeler works for the man.

See although Steeler and AM both bill out at $300 per hour they are not 1%-ers. Like I said - you will never get ahead working for the man.

Just some basic math, by way of illustration.

Steeler bills $300 per hour. A reasonable and light billable year is 1600 to 1800 er year. That's $480,000 to $540,000.

Nice work if you can get it.

And yet both Steeler and AM say 'oh no I'm not 1%.'

So they choose to work for ht man. I'll hazard a guess and say the each actually get paid somewher around $120k-$150k. Maybe up to $200k, but still that's a lot of cash going into the man's pocket.

Like I say - life is a bunch of choices. Choose wisely.

But hot damn they sure are empathetic. :)

Yes, life is, indeed, full of choices. And I see that you've made yours.

See you around, Spanky.

Too bad about Jeb. He should stick to being a real leader. Who can argue with Jeb about the 10 to 1 cuts to spending ratio? Of course this is absurd. And how can one make the observation about such extremism in the GOP/TP, and then accuse the Dems of not compromising?

The rightwing crazies lie to themselves and each other all day long every day, or otherwise known as cognitive dissonance, group think -- Or in the case of the troll, he's a legend in his own mind. With such coping mechanisms of denial, one can get spanked big time and act like nothing happened. He believes his own lies. Just don't feed it.

total Jeberish from Jeb Bush?

Steeler Fan and AM---I see why he calls himself Spanky. You guys just gave him a good Spankin.

Democrat voter fraud functioning well....how many dead people and illegals voted for this fag ???

Ah, but Obama wouldn't have even been glanced at by the dems back in the day.

But yeah, 'rabid righties.' Who of course have unleashed such hardcore conservatives as McCain and Romney.

Extreme indeed.

More libbie meme fail.

SO gang - is the private sector doing fine?

Really?

Mark - is the little hearing and contempt charges against the sitting AG just not that important to you?

Last I heard, Issa was backing off on the contempt charges. Wonder what's happening there?

That's true, Feisty.

What's funny in all this is that today's republicans have NO clue about the real Ronald Reagan, all they know is the magical, mythical version the GOP created since he left office. Reagan ran on decreasing the size of government yet increased it; he ran on tax cuts but spent like a drunken sailor and despite the 11 tax increases he signed into law, the deficit and debt never recovered which is exactly why Bush 41 had to raise taxes again. They never bothered increasing the high-income tax rate; that was off limits to both St. Reagan and Papa Bush--it was the middle and the low income wage earners who paid higher taxes. Also odd is how the GOP continues to sell that same premise despite the fact that trickle down never trickled down under Reagan, Bush 41 or Bush 43--it all just stayed at the top.

Mark, nope, Darryl Issa's witch hunt isn't important to me. FYI, Issa's backing off because he's got nothing to use. Eric Holder has provided what he requested, has testified before them, answered their questions and been respectful at all times. Issa is a partisan hack to put it bluntly and anything he says is worth a grain of salt.

Jeb has been scolded by Norquist ..and had to walk it back !

It doesn't matter if Jeb walks it back. He has spoken the truth and it is now archived for all eternity.

Norquist cursed Jeb out a fare-thee-well but he and his policies have been exposed by one of his own so he can just go sit down. We all know, Democrats and Republicans, that Bush 41 nor Reagan would win their party's nomination in 2012. That party is corrupt and hypocritical to the nth degree.

Reagan must be doing gymnastics in his grave the way this all turned out so badly.

Its hard to back the truth even if Repubes are holding a torch to your butt.

Truth and the Repubes = Oxymoron

Jody--I guess it is a sign that Jeb can't say this with a straight face so he tweets it instead. A lame walk-back for sure. In 2008, when the nation faced its worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the Republicans chose to do everything they could to prevent an economic recovery so to defeat President Obama. That is hyperpartisanship, Jeb.

As much as I normally disagree with the Bush crime family I
must agree with JEB on this issue.

Daddy and St. Ronny of Reagan would not make it in the
current Republican party. Although the policies of St. Ronnie made much of
today’s extremism possible St. Ronnie,
himself, would not have condoned Grover and his extremist (sig heil) bunch.

sub·ver·sion [ səb vúr'n ]

1.activity undermining government: an action, plan, or activity intended to undermine or overthrow a government or other institution

2.overthrow of something: the destruction or ruining of something

This perfectly describes the current party formerly known as GOP!

Adler, agree. Jeb Bush was right about Reagan and his dad. We only need to look at the current version of Mitt Romney who has shifted his previous views to meet the TP/evangelical requirements to realize that the republican party has moved into the John Birch & Libertarian Wing and taken up residence there.

Its time to get rid of this 2 party debacle, we should have more choices than dumb and dumber, this monopoly has got to be broken, its a proven the 2 party system is a sham and doesnt work and never did, other countries have 6or 7 different partys running an advanced country like ours has 2? just a breeding ground for corruption, nothing more, and with the media anointing and choosing our candidates utterly disgusting, term limits on all congress critters and senators, cut their pay and perks get the monkey off the tax payers backs, and puleez not another worthless bush from the bush crime family, good lord, lets end this 2 party monopoly once and for all and end the best politician money can buy and make lobbyist and campaign contributions illegal, period.