Romney catches up to Obama -- in more ways than one… Obama to hold press conference at 10:15 am ET… Breaking down Romney’s VP possibilities if they were stocks… Romney’s new response TV ad… New poll measuring the Latino vote shows Obama with a big lead… Romney campaigns in Iowa… And if you missed seeing Bachmann, Cain, and Santorum, you’re in luck today at CPAC… And good news for Dems in North Dakota.
*** Catching up: If we learned two things this week, it’s 1) that Team Obama was put on the defensive, and 2) that Team Romney has caught up in more ways than one. Indeed, this is the week Romney caught up in fundraising (his campaign and the RNC outraised Obama and the DNC, $76.8 million to $60 million), in some national and battleground state polls (the national FOX, EPIC-MRA in Michigan, and Purple Strategies’ swing states), and even on the airwaves (the Romney camp is up in seven states versus the Obama camp’s nine). As the GOP presumptive nominee, there was always a time when Romney was going to catch up; just see where John Kerry was at around this point in 2004. But that time is now.
The Daily Rundown's Chuck Todd talks about the latest fundraising numbers as wells as advertising in key battleground states.
*** Obama to hold press conference: Against this backdrop -- his worst week of the campaign year coupled with Romney’s best – President Obama today holds a mini-press conference in the White House briefing room at 10:15 am ET. The issues that are likely to come up: the economy, Europe, Syria. But it’s also an attempt to wrest back control of the narrative a bit as the questions are likely to be a mix of both international and campaign. What’s more, it’s the first opportunity for the press corps to ask him about Wisconsin.
*** If the VP picks were stocks: With some possible Romney VP picks speaking at the CPAC gathering in Chicago (more on that below), we’re introducing a way to look at Romney’s running mate candidates. There are plenty of Top 10 lists out there, but what we’re introducing is a way to look at their value -- much like a stock. Who is overvalued right now (in terms of risk vs. reward)? Who is underpriced? Who is priced correctly? Here are our thoughts:
The most expensive: Rob Portman, Marco Rubio. These guys -- right now -- would be your most expensive stocks to buy because they are being viewed both internally and externally as the clear-cut frontrunners. But you can argue the potential risk each brings has NOT been priced into their stock (Bush years for Portman, unvetted record for Rubio).
Other Overvalued Picks: Chris Christie, Bob McDonnell. These two governors get lots of attention, but maybe more attention than Team Romney is giving them as both present some downsides that too many in the media overlook.
Undervalued: Tim Pawlenty, Bobby Jindal, John Thune: If you were looking for a good deal, you would consider this category, especially Pawlenty, who was McCain’s runner-up in 2008. All of these folks are probably under more serious consideration than the C.W. crowd believes.
Valued just about right: Kelly Ayotte, Paul Ryan, Susana Martinez. Their risks and rewards have all been priced about right by the C.W. crowd.
*** Romney’s new response ad: In a response to this week’s hard-hitting Obama TV ad that criticizes Romney’s job-creation record in Massachusetts -- that it ranked 47th in the nation -- the Romney camp is up with its own ad. “As governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney had the best jobs record in a decade,” the ad goes. “Romney reduced unemployment to just 4.7%. “He balanced every budget without raising taxes. He did it by bringing parties together to cut through gridlock.” Some quick facts: The unemployment rate in Massachusetts was 4.7% in Dec. 2006, which was Romney’s last full month as governor, but that was higher than the nation’s overall 4.4% rate. While the ad states that Romney balanced the budget without raising taxes, he raised revenues and fees as governor.
*** Measuring the Latino vote: Obama continues to lead Mitt Romney by a wide margin, 66-23%, according to a new Latino Decisions poll. And the poll looked at feelings among Latinos toward the Democratic DREAM Act shepherded by Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) vs. Sen. Marco Rubio’s (R-FL) proposed bill, aka “DREAM Act Light.” Latinos strongly preferred Durbin’s. By an 87%-10% margin, Latinos had a favorable view of the Democratic version, as opposed to being split, 49%/46% for Rubio’s. Then, they were asked which version they preferred. They said Democrats’ by an 82%-13% margin.
*** On the trail: Romney holds an event in Council Bluffs, IA at 11:30 am ET, and then he heads to Utah, where he’ll appear with Sen. Orrin Hatch at 4:25 pm ET and then hit a fundraiser.
*** If you missed seeing Bachmann, Cain, and Santorum, you’re in luck: Conservatives are gathering in the Chicago area for another CPAC confab. (Is it just us, or does there seem to be a CPAC almost every few months? The national one, in DC, took place four months ago in February.) Here are some of the notable speakers: Rick Santorum (who has announced a new group, at 10:45 am ET, John Kasich at 11:15 am ET, Rand Paul (who just endorsed Romney) at 11:30 am ET, Chris Christie at noon ET, Herman Cain at 1:30 pm ET, Bobby Jindal at 2:45 pm ET, Bob McDonnell at 6:40 pm ET and Michele Bachmann at 6:40 pm ET.
*** Just askin’: Why is it that Bill Clinton or Cory Booker going off-script becomes national news, but not when Sen. Lisa Murkowski disagrees with the GOP and Romney attacks on Solyndra, or when Jeb Bush praises Obama on education -- a subject on which Romney recently criticized the president? Are those things also going off-script?
*** Good news for Dems in North Dakota: This has been a tough week for Democrats, but they got some good news with a new Mason-Dixon poll out of North Dakota, which shows Heidi Heitkamp (D) running even with Rick Berg (R). In the poll, it’s Heitkamp at 47% and Berg at 46%. Meanwhile, for the Indiana Senate race, the Dem groups American Bridge and Majority PAC are up with a new website, WhoIsRichardMourdock.com.
*** Rick Scott = George Wallace? As the drama in Florida continues to unfold over voter registration and voter roll purges, the influential Tampa Bay Times editorial page scolds Gov. Rick Scott (R), comparing him to Gov. George Wallace: “This June, the governor of another Southern state is challenging the federal government's authority. Nearly 50 years after Wallace's showdown, you are standing between Floridians and their right to vote as U.S. citizens. We agree that only citizens should vote, but your approach to cleaning up the voter rolls is fatally flawed. The U.S. Justice Department and county supervisors of election have reached the same conclusion and told you to stop, yet you persist.”
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I'm starting a new series - highlighting Willard's wonderful world of hypocrisy;
Is being a draft dodger a mandatory prerequisite in order to be a member of the modern day GNOP?
It’s certainly beginning to look that way;
Here is another classic example of a man who will say ANYTHING for political expediency;
Over 58,000 brave young men paid the ultimate price for this country, while Willard was peddling
around France attempting to force his religion on unsuspecting targets.
Nothing like being born into privilege… is there?
Will the real Willard Romney please stand up?
Here's a hot news flash: the "hope and change" guy from 2008 is now the "more of the same" guy in 2012. Heck, all Romney has to do is chime in with "I'll do better" and he's instantly competitive. That's why so many Democrats (belatedly) are now anguishing over Obama's prospects. Good grief, it sure took them long enough. Anyone with a brain has known this president has been in big trouble for quite a while and things haven't been getting better for him. That's why Romney wins, maybe even a landslide.
Are you listening, Dr. Ron?
Barry makes a BJ joke about Michelle and gets a free pass from the MSM and all the lefty liberal women’s rights crowd.
Where’s the OUTRAGE????????????
Imagine the OUTRAGE if a Republican pol had said the exact same thing about his own wife.
The FUNNIEST part is the only one calling Barry out on it is that misogynist pig Bill Mahar.
You couldn’t make this stuff up if you tried!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Maher to Obama: Don’t steal my act
By: Patrick Gavin
June 8, 2012 07:43 AM EDT
Bill Maher may have contributed $1 million to Barack Obama’s reelection effort, but that doesn’t mean he won’t ding the president from time to time.
The host of HBO’s “Real Time” took to Twitter Thursday night to react to a joke made Wednesday night by Obama that was construed, in some circles, as a risque one.
Maher was addressing, in part, recent controversies over his political humor and whether Democratic politicians — given Maher’s foray into campaign financing — should distance themselves from him.
And as for that Obama joke? It was this, via a the pool report:
“Michelle outdoes me in pushups as well,” he said, after saying that she’s taken some criticism on her technique “because she doesn’t go all the way down” — a line that he let hang, naughtily, provoking laughter from the crowd.
Political expediency???? Please. How about this one:
If elected I will close Gitmo in my first year. Now it's a fricking country club for vermin. Take your garbage and shove it.
Get ready for the U.S. to go into Syria (air or land) without U.N. approval. I want to see the same outrage against that move as there was against Iraq. If you don't, you don;t deserve to post.
Feisty Dumbfux- Remind us what military branch and what war Obama served in again? Yeah. I thought so.
Oh, Ben.....there you go again, telling fairy tales. Have you forgotten how all those lily livered conservative cowards in Congress harrumphed NOT IN MY BACK YARD. Of course, that was CONGRESS SPEAK for, we wont help you fulfill a campaign promise.
Corey Booker – Ed Rendell – Harold Ford Jr. – Bill Clinton & the rest of you disgruntled Democrats, guess you were wrong again… lol
What do all these men have in common?
They are resolute Hillary supporters - Nuff Said!
With supposed friends like you – who needs enemies?
Keep hammering the message home Mr. President!
Romney's name should be Cheney !!!!!!!!!!!
As we mourn the passing of Bob Welch -- former member of Fleetwood Mac -- we are reminded of Hussein's campaign theme song. "Little Lies."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiGjxxytLy8
Does the 'C.W.' used in the article stand for the 'Crazy Wing' of the GOP?
Romney is not the person we need as President of this Nation, he will Flip Flop for the 1% and throw the middle class under the Bus !!!!!!!!!!
It is a shame that any given candidate can NOT make a difference in Washington. It really doesn't matter who wins this coming election, it will be more of the same crap that has been happening. Dem/Repub come from the same mold, all are getting rich and clouding the issues of this troubled nation, all the while sipping coctails together at the "exec club" and laughing at all the sheep defending their lies.
All start a bill that they know won't get voted on and approved....
All say that they are against big corportations, yet all accept the huge donations that are handed out...
All make speaches, spread lies, and do anything but answer simple questions...
What has this country become, it is sickening!!
Ah, poor Feisty - trying so hard.
Ok sure Feisty - by all means let's debate the merits of going to Paris to get out of war - and don't all ou libbies hate war? What would COde Pink advise potential draftees?
To overt drug use over many years. Obama was a heavy user of weed and coke. Oh and all this new/old stuff about the New Party?
Yikes - apparently they have documentation of his involvement, including a candidate pledge.
Just more crap to pile onto O's terrible times.
Once again the president is asking the GNOP to pass legislation that will put more Americans back to work.
Once again there is opposition form the far right even here on the boards to help people.
The GNOP and it's followers would rather leave people unemployed just so they can say that the president can't create jobs.
The reality is that it is the GNOP that refuses to create jobs for Americans. If they once again fail to pass a measure that will help the average American, it will prove once and for all that they are the ones responsible for the continuing failure to create jobs.
Let's see what the GNOP HOUSE does and how long it takes for them after President Obamaa news confrence today to say this is a bad idea. The bad idea is that the GNOP House has the ability to keep Americans unemployed.
Yesterday, Romney decided to talk about morality. Problem is he doesn't practice what he preaches.
Bain, under Romney benefitted greatly by way of profits with the help of government. Why didn't Romney do the right thing and turn down the "aid" from government??? Hypocrite be thy name.
Romney Critical Of Government Aid That Helped Bain Profit
By David J. Lynch - Jun 5, 2012 8:30 PM ET
Mitt Romney likes to say that “government does not create prosperity.”
His record in the private equity industry shows otherwise.
Mitt Romney during a campaign stop at Southwest Office Systems, on June 5, 2012, in Fort Worth, Texas. Photographer: Evan Vucci/AP Photo
Arsenio Muniz Rosad, who lost his job at plant after Mitt Romney's private equity firm, Bain Capital, closed it down, in Aguada, Puerto Rico, Nov. 11, 2011. The buyout of an Illinois medical company by Romney's equity firm shows the unintended human costs and messy financial consequences behind the brand of capitalism that Romney practiced for 15 years. Photographer: Christopher Gregory/The New York Times/Redux
During Romney’s years as chief executive of Bain Capital LLC, companies owned by the firm received millions of dollars in benefits from a variety of state and local government economic development programs.
In California, taxpayer money built one Bain company a conveyor bridge between two of its buildings. New York City gave another Bain company tax breaks and lower energy bills to discourage it from moving to New Jersey. And in Indiana, a county government issued bonds to help buy new equipment for a Bain-owned steel plant -- a business success featured in a Romney campaign ad touting his private sector prowess.
“From a national perspective, this makes no economic sense to allow cities and states to do this,” said Arthur Rolnick, former director of research for the Federal Reserve Bank ofMinneapolis. “In general, you want the market to be making these decisions -- not the political system.”
The public-private agreements, which began in the first decade of Romney’s tenure as CEO, show that government played a supporting role in establishing Bain as among the nation’s most successful private equity firms and enabling him to accumulate a fortune his campaign says could reach $250 million.
Criticizing Government Involvement
On the campaign trail, the presumptive Republican nominee has hammered at President Barack Obama for favoring an unhealthy government role in the economy.
“When government, rather than the market, routinely selects winners or losers, or puts its hands on the scales of justice then enterprises and entrepreneurs can’t predict their prospects,” Romney said in a March 19 speech at the University of Chicago.
Asked about the disconnect between Romney’s free market rhetoric and Bain’s track record, Amanda Henneberg, a campaign spokeswoman, said: “It’s not at all uncommon for state and local governments to use competitive incentives and programs to create a favorable business climate.”
Full story here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-06/romney-critical-of-government-aid-that-helped-bain-profit.html
Pifft, he manned up and registered in 1970 where he drew #202, the higest number drawn was #195. Hardly a draft dodger. He had a 2 1/2 deferement prior to that to finish is Missionary work in France.
Now, were was Obama as a young man? Not joining our military. He was traveling in the mid-east visting Madrasah's. Pakistan, and even to Hyderabad India, a city extablished by the Mohgal Muslim Sultan Mohammad Quli Shah and the most Muslim City in India. Not mention Indonisia the most Muslim nation on the planet.
Feisty, you could write five of these Mitt Hypocrisy's a day and still not cover his daily lies.
I still say GOP Jon Huntsman described Mitt Romney best for his own party, Romney is "a well-oiled weathervane". It is one thing for candidates to slant things in their favor, maybe exaggerate a bit but Romney does neither, he just flat out lies, changes positions depending on the way the wind blows. It is one thing to change a view or two over time, it is another to change one's view on everything--that signifies perpetual liar with no real core values. He's had every position on every issue since he began running for public office back in 1994. Why should any person trust Mitt Romney? Does anyone really know what his policies are for the military (besides starting more wars he and his sons won't fight)? Did he support the Obama signed VA benefits legislation, the most sweeping additions since the GI Bill after WWII? Is he pro-choice, or pro-life? I don't know, I really don't know. About the only thing we do know about Romney is he loves the Ryan Budget which cuts taxes for the rich while decimating the rest of Americans.
P*ssedOff, what a crock of baloney you spew. Obama was a boy during the Vietnam War and he went where his mother's job took her. Romney had 4, that's right, 4 deferments from the war not quite as many as Dick Cheney who had 5 but darn close. Romney's answer to the press about why his sons didn't serve during the Irag/Afghan wars, they're "serving their country by helping me get elected." Yes, class act Mitt Romney is. He's a liar and a coward not because he didn't serve in Vietnam but because he isn't man enough to admit his hypocritical flip/flops on it.
Every Thursday, the US Department of Labor releases it's weekly initial jobless-claims number which is among the most closely watched economic indicators by financial markets. Yesterday's report indicated a drop in claims of 12,000 which was in part due to an upward revision of last week's number by 6,000. Still, taken by itself, good news right? Well, not so fast...Lately, financial news organizations have been reporting on a disturbing trend in these numbers.
Perhaps the reason this trend initially went unnoticed was because revisions to the initial jobless-claims number occur on a regular basis and more often than not these revisions are to the upside. What is uncommon is that for the past 49 weeks the number has invariably been restated to the same direction. Historically, the revisions are occasionally to the downside and there are weeks where no revision is necessary. The odds of almost an entire year passing without one of these things happening are statistically improbable if not impossible.
The effect of the constant upward revision of the previous week's jobless-claims number is that it causes a doubling of the percieved decrease in the current weeks number, clearly affecting the public's oppinion of the economy. Now if I were a betting man, I would bet that next week, this weeks number will be revised upwards, erasing half of the 12,000 claim "decrease".
Obama/Biden 2012? Only if you're looking forward to the bread lines...
Once again NoMore,
Harry Reid has a bunch of jobs bills sitting on his desk from the House of Representatives that have already been passed.
This dog won't hunt son. Harry won't bring 'em to a vote so his Liberal Friends won't have to vote "NO" on them.
You're desperate.
With Obama under so much pressure these days, and being POUNDED with bad news, has anyone looked into the possibility that he's BACK ON DRUGS AGAIN? He's an ADMITTED heavy dope user (in the past, of course), so it would make sense that all Americans should be concerned about this. It may be the reason for some of bizarre acts. Remember just a few weeks ago he actually said something like "I was just told that my administration has spent less money than any other" or some such nonsense? What kind of clear thinking person would say this?
Fiesty (post 1.0)
ANOTHER first post by the MSNBC or DNC ghost writer, pretending to be concerned citizen. Able to post the first obnoxiously liberal comment in almost all these political stories as MSNBC attempts to “shape” the news and public opinion instead of simply reporting it.
Yep, the media is no longer able to play a game of smoke and mirrors to help prop up the most unqualified person ever elected President. The Washington Post can somehow locate a High School Classmate of Romney's form 50 years ago, then hold the hazing story JUST UNTIL Obama's "evolution" is complete on Gay Marriage, then blast the 5,500 article on PAGE 1. In Contrast, the Washington Post buries a story on page 6 of Obama's extensive cocaine in High School and college, but oddly, they can't seem to find anyone who sold him his drugs or any of the druggies he hung out with.
Oh well, just like the Media and Fiesty were shocked at Tuesday's results, they'll probably be shocked in November, when Obama looses worse than Carter.
BTW Fiesty, how was that "popcorn" last Tuesday as "things were getting interesting" in WI?
NOBAMA 2012!
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Good Morning Brian!
Once again, the house will take another vacation next week...
Eric Cantor himself, said there will be NO work done on behalf of the people between now & November!
They don't need to create any stinkin jobs like they promised in 2010!
Yet, these jerks are still collecting full pay & benefits!
Feisty, don't you know the Romneys are "royalty?" You wouldn't expect them to endanger their own lives through military service - that's what poor people are for.
Feisty, Bill Clinton was a draft dodger and he did pretty good as President. Oh and how about hearings on all the intelligence leaks coming out of the White House to make the President look tough on terror, but putting peoples lives at risk, makes Valerie Plame pale in comparison. Even Dems want an investigation. Eric Holder what a joke as AG, he dodges question after question about fast and furious.
You bemoan the fact that Gov Walker beat the recall because he spent more money, yet that is how President Obama won in 2008 and what he is trying to do in 2012. Too bad that the economy will trump all.
Ed Rendell, Paul Begala, Bill Clinton, Cory Booker all going off script and not on the same page as the administration. James Carville was allready off script long ago. Scurrying away from a losing proposition.
I would love to see the Flip Flopper chop and hack off Trumps hair !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please Feisty give it a brake.
The subject at hand.
Published June 08, 2012 Associated Press
The President is in trouble and he knows it. I do want to say that it is still early and things can get better or worth. The irony of this election is that he might loose because of the same thing that made him win in 2008, the Economy and we are not stupid of all the games with the numbers to make it look allot better than what it is.
I will promise to be nice and not gloat if Mitt wins as long as you old behave, regardless we should all come together despite of who wins.
Jody,
I like that one, but, I ♥ Rick Perry's description of Willard being a "vulture capitalist"!
Ben...
"Please. How about this one:
If elected I will close Gitmo in my first year. Now it's a fricking country club for vermin. Take your garbage and shove it."
The only "garbage" is your comment. Obama has one of the best records of trying to keep his promises of any president in recent history. He promised health care reform, end of DADT, turn the economy around, end the wars, the list goes on and on. If you had a shred of intellectual honesty...you would admit that. But I guess I expect too much from republicans who almost universally supported a health insurance mandate...right up until the moment that Obama tried to pass it.
@Amy Remind me again in what branch of the service did the President and VP serve? I must have missed that.
Ben, you do realize that when Bush invaded Iraq, there was no civil war going on within its borders; there were no WMDs because the sanctions had worked; there was no Al Qaeda there despite what Bush said? Don't come back with the Hussein killed his people because that occurred after the first Gulf War; we all know he was a brutal dictator but he wasn't bombing his own towns and villages; and Iraqi citizens were not rebeling as they are in Syria.
ksw62118, you miss the point. It does not matter that Romney did not serve in Vietnam any more than it matters that Cheney, Clinton, Obama and countless other Congressional members did not serive. What matters is that he tells conflicting stories about why he didn't instead of just being truthful, he didn't want to go to Nam any more than any other American drafted wanted to. He claimed he did not seek to avoid the draft while having multiple deferments to avoid the draft; he claimed he did not plan to or want to serve in Vietnam in 1994 but in 2007, he said "he longed" to be in Vietnam.
Amy B. Portland, ME
Then the Romneys should fit together withthe Obamas. King and Messiah. What service did Obama attend in the US but he stills praises or Military. Do you see me making an issue of that?
You would think you libbies would be smart enough to avoid the whole "a president isn't allowed to send our guys to war unless he's been IN a war" angle these past few years. Mostly you have...for obvious reasons. Do you really want to start that up again while Obama is president? Do you not realize that he's never been in a war or the military nor has anyone in his family? You used it daily during the Bush years and wisely stopped it when Obama got in.
Rich liberals like Obama? "we wouldn't expect them to endanger their own lives through military service - that's what stupid, Southern, Christian White people are for."
Concerned Citizen..."I will promise to be nice and not gloat if Mitt wins as long as you old behave, regardless we should all come together despite of who wins."
I understand that you can only speak for yourself. But what you seem to be saying is that you hope that if Romney wins...that the democrats won't obstruct him like the republicans have been obstructing Obama for the last 4 years? Well...I don't think you need to worry. Unlike the republicans...the democrats won't deliberately try to sabotage the economy for political gain like the republicans have been doing with the debt limit debacle, the tax debacle, their absurd demands regarding the stimulus, and their refusal to pass any bill, such as the transportation bill, that will generate jobs.
THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW AS FAR AS WHY REPUBS ARE PUSHING NEW VOTER ID LAWS!!!!!!
"He claimed he did not seek to avoid the draft while having multiple deferments to avoid the draft; he claimed he did not plan to or want to serve in Vietnam in 1994 but in 2007, he said "he longed" to be in Vietnam."
So what, Jody? Obviously, his thinking EVOLVED during those years. You don't have a problem with someone's opinion EVOLVING over time...do you?
dizzykat,
I will really do what I said. Don't go spoil it and put words that I did not write. You are a bad mind reader at that. Yes we know the Democrats are good and everyone else is Bad. Sounds like a movie that I once saw. Oh yes Rockie 3.5 trillion.
Damage,
Amen my brother - we is as one. I'm for the militarianism of the dam Tea Party. How bout you, brother???
Arrest Rick Scott and put his butt in jail. Who does he think he is? First he tries to purge any one from the Florida voter rolls who's old, Latino, pro Democrat, or just disagrees with his Dictatorial policies. Then, after receiving a stop order on his purge list from the Department Of Justice of the United States Government he not only defies the order, but sends a hate letter back telling the Justice Department he'll run "HIS STATE" as he wants. Who is this Guy? Does he really think he's more powerful than the United States Government? I hope Eric Holder rips this guy a new one. These Repugs have got so "cocky and arrogant" and into how important they THINK THEY ARE that's it's now time to take these Narcissistic punks to the Woodshed and teach them a lesson.
We can do this if we all get out, and VOTE THEM ALL OUT in 2012.
Romney let's see your tax returns and those "so called" Blind Trusts. We're waiting.
OBAMA IN 2012.
Eric Cantor himself, said there will be NO work done on behalf of the people between now & November!
They don't need to create any stinkin jobs like they promised in 2010!
Good Morning Feisty!
You are absolutely correct once again.
The GNOP will enjoy another vacation and then sit on their fatasses until the election are over without passing legislation to put Americans back to work and without helping to build and rebuild our infrastructure.
The GNOP seems to feel that is perfectly acceptable to leave families across the country hungry and desperate for work. But what do they care? They don't have to endure the hardships that so many in America deal with on a daily basis. All they seem to care about is trying everything in their power to dismiss any bill that would help Americans so they can say the president didn't do enough.
This type of unAmerican activity is something the democrats should be showing America in many of their political ads as they run for election this year. Maybe it's time to remind every voter how the GNOP is continuing to damage America.
Damage123.
What about you - have you served (and no lying please)?? It's usually those with the loudest big mouths that have done the least....
I remember America during the Vietnam War, when some boys of draft age were running to Canada to try to dodge their service, one of whom grew up to be our Tea Party governor Paul LePage.
If you did not grow up during that era, you might not realize what a big deal it is that so many Republicans politicians found ways to not serve, especially with all their saber rattling about invading Iran or Syria. Democrats became associated with the peace movement, because so many protested the Vietnam War, so it is ironic the Republicans have now nominated a candidate who spent the Vietnam War years in Paris, France.
CaliforniaTom,
right on! It's time to start thinking about sending in the National Guard (again)....
Not to mention the wide Obama/Romney gap with women.. Don't worry, I bet they're trying to figure out something with that too.....LOL
WeIst- Amen to you too brother. Good to see a kindred soul on here. It's guys like me and you who will be on the frontlines of the battle to defeat the libbies with all the artillery and firepower we have.
You know which libbies we REALLY have to go after, right? Those condescending, elitist libs with an imaginary superiority complex. You know the kind. They think that any Americans who don't believe as they do politically are stupid, backwards, uneducated. Possibly inbred. They especially think this of all we Tea Party people. Nevermind that it flies in the face of all evidence and is just a desperate attempt to find an excuse for why they can never seem to win on the issues. You know those types right, WeIst? Of course you do.
What about you - have you served (and no lying please)?? It's usually those with the loudest big mouths that have done the least....
Excellent question RushISaPIG!
I served during the Vietnam war but was never deployed outside the U.S. I remember hearing from people like damage123 at that time. People like him seem to forget that all of the great things we enjoy in this country like: voting, equal rights and free speech all came with a price. Conservatives like damage want to exercise their rights, but they don't want to pay the price for them. Just like the GNOP House, all they care about is what they can get from others by doing as little as possible to achieve it. And if anyone tries to infringe on their rights, the very same rights they wouldn't give their life for, they will scream louder than the next that things aren't fair.
p*ssed off
Now, were was Obama as a young man? Not joining our military. He was traveling in the mid-east visting Madrasah's. Pakistan, and even to Hyderabad India, a city extablished by the Mohgal Muslim Sultan Mohammad Quli Shah and the most Muslim City in India. Not mention Indonisia the most Muslim nation on the planet.
Yours a real piece of work the reason why he was in Indonesia is because he was living there with his mother step-dad and baby sister.
when you let PURE hate cloud you judgement your brain goes soft, and after this post your brain is as soft as a 10 year old grape. your all wine.
Mitt and his quest to get out of Vietnam was a reflection of the times, only poor men went to Vietnam unless the enlisted and believe me mitt was not about to enlist and miss out on the millions he has made!!
As martin Luther king said, hate will be the end to us all
please do spell check, then your lies might be believable
RUSH-
Damage123.
"What about you - have you served (and no lying please)?? It's usually those with the loudest big mouths that have done the least...."
I'm not one of those with the "loudest mouth". It was you libbies on here that once again stupidly began the chant of "only presidents who have served should be allowed to wage war." Maybe you need to talk to those loudmouths first and stop trying to distract and deflect.
And WeIst- I forgot to tell you that's a GREAT picture of your mother and her sister in your avatar. Was that recent?
Holder Declares War On State’s Rights
June 5, 2012 By Kevin "Coach" Collins
Amy the intellectual lightweight strikes again. The easiest way "to not serve" during the Vietnam era was to go to college and get a student deferment. So if you had the brains and the financial means you dodged a bullet, if you didn't you probably got drafted. It was a system that explicitly discriminated against those of lesser means and talents, to be sure. But it was also a system that served Bill Clinton just as much as it served Mitt Romney -- and countless others on both sides of the aisle.
Dodging the draft by hightailing it to Canada was (and still is) viewed by many as a dishonorable action. But avoiding the draft by going to college or serving in a ministry never carried the same stigma because it was legal and in accordance with the groundrules of that period.
No spin Amy, just the facts.
Scheduled for 10:15 a.m., the arrogant prick Hussein is making people wait again for his whistling through his "forked tongue." Here it is now. Listen closely.
Blah, blah, blah. Same old crap Hussein. Wise up if you can or you won't even make it a close loss in November.
FR…Why don't you get a job a stop sucking off of the Government? You are as bad if not worse than Rush. I have read your posts with amazement at how distorted your views are and your claims of superior intellect are nothing but self-righteous delusion.
Bill, Fairfax VA
Wow. Just WOW. Only young men not bright enough to go to college served in the Vietnam War? Holy, cow, and they call us Democrats anti-military. I am speechless.
Obama was too young to serve in Vietnam; Romney is a fraud. He is the single biggest liar in politics today, even his republican competitors pointed that out. You had Newt flat out calling him a liar. Rick Santorum same thing.
I wanted to find something in Romney that might give me hope of some kind during his run for the Presidency for an honest man who might actually be good for the country if he were to win, but, with the absolute provable lies he has made in regards to Obama is really very confusing. If he has something to say about Obama not doing a good job (I of course feel with the obstacles he faced from the get go, he has done a wonderful job.) does he have to lie and then brush it off with the Good for Goose is Good for the Gander crap. It is not good for anyone if he is lying about the Obama record.
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE IDIOTS, BECAUSE OF THE COWARDLY REPUBLICANS THAT WERE TOO AFRAID TO HAVE THE TRIALS OF THOSE IN GITMO IN THIS COUNTRY WAS TO SCARY FOR THEM TO HANDLE THAT IS WHY GITMO IS NOT CLOSED TODAY. THIS IS NOT CHINA AND THE PRESIDENT CANNOT JUST SAY WHAT HE WANTS AND THEN GETS IT. YOU MUST HAVE COOPERATION WITH THE CONGRESS. THIS PRESIDENT HAS HAD NONE.
and 46 other states kicked the $hit out of Massachusetts.
"State's rights" is only used because, "I don't want you telling me I can pass discriminatory laws" was too long. Listen, we have a little something called the 14th Amendment, and another little something called the Supremacy Clause. They ensure that the 10th Amendment isn't used as an excuse for the states to pass laws infringing on the civil rights of certain groups of people. In fact, this is soooo cut and dry, a 10th Amendment issue hasn't even come before SCOTUS since the '60's, when they tried to use it to protect segregation. Pssst, they lost.
Amy B. Portland, ME
and while eating baguettes in Paris, Romney longed for to be in Vietnam....
I can't wait for Romney to be elected so he can not fix the economy.
Or Obama to be re-elected so he can not fix the economy.
People then will tell me it is a better future for America, if I pick their candidate that's not fixing the economy, and why (you know, because of experience running a company or because a plan is still working out, or whatever).
Democrats and Republicans, your message is clear...you want us to vote for you so you can do what you want, as opposed to what would actually be good for everyone.
GOT IT!
Little follow up on that Vietnam comment, Bill, Fairfax VA - really, what are you thinking?
Damage123,
I thought so ...
Also, I really enjoy when people call Obama, Hussein. Like any but the most prejudice and bigotted find that scary, or even give a flying rat's ass.
"What?!?!?! His middle name is HUSSEIN!!! Well, that does it, I'm voting for Romney now!"
Feisty:
Eric Cantor himself, said there will be NO work done on behalf of the people between now & November!
Obama said that about a year and 1/2 ago acknowledging that he needed issues to raise in the election ahead of him. (I kept the Article from MSNBC for a long time but it is now lost so I can't quote our eminent POTUS -- but that is essentially what he said.)
BTW: If you do not work for MSNBC how do you always get the first slot. AND, my God, who "creates" some of you material. Do you want everyone to believe that you put together comment #1 before anyone else could get in a sentence? You are not Feisty. You are Fishy.
Sarah, I guess you missed all the names your beloved liberals had for Bush, and now have for Romney.
Hypocrite much?
No not really. Please quote where I've ever called Bush a name?
Also, I have no problem if you want to call Obama names based on personality characteristics or stupid things he's said/done. Call him Prompter and Chief, Ears, 52 States, whatever...
It's when you thinly veil, bigotted ideas that I have a problem. Let's keep it real, shall we??? You all call him Hussein because it stikes a chord with all the Islamaphobics. There's something inherently more malicious about targeting someone for their perceived ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender...
Also, you sound really whiney. Kind of similar to "I know you are but what am I???"
Feisty .. begs the question, does it require a handbrake or a foot brake?
My question to Romney - what do you intend to do about all those Muslims who waltz through TSA without screenings. According to your party darling Landry, it happens daily, and so we must know how you intend to address this atrocity. Will your policy be to enact a no-fly list based upon religious preference or simply enact self-deportation rules to rid America of Muslims.
Romney also needs to tell us what he intends to do with the Nederland problem of killing half of their population over 65 via euthanasia. According to republicans, this is a serious genocide problem rivaling that of Syria so Americans need to know if you plan to wage war against the Dutch. Will you be using the nuclear option, troops surges, or drones to cleanse the country of its mass murderers.
Sir Romney, these are just two of the top priority issues raised by your party and we need to know your stance before making an informed voter choice in November. Please let us know your stance before election day.
That's the most cogent remark you've made in months. There's hope for you yet.
Just watched the President Obama speak. I was caught off guard when he said the private sector is doing fine. Say what? He went on to say that its the States and all that comes with it who are now hurting. Wow, deja vo. Is he signaling for another QE 3, or is it QE 4? The states needs to take care of their own.
Very frustrating.
Feisty, did I somehow miss Obama's military service? Romney has just as much military service as your idol. Receiving a deferment is not draft dodging.
Did I somehow miss the U.S. Military drafting 9 year olds in the late 1960's?
If you say so... *wink wink*
Twist & spin it until you turn blue in the face!
The fact is it only highlights Willard's stellar record of flip-flopping on his positions... lol
Feisty, I see how you conveniently neglected to mention that Slicky Willy Clinton spent his Vietnam Years at Oxford attending and organizing Anti-War Protests.....ON FOREIGN SOIL...Kinda like Obama bashing America on his Apology Tours....
Amy, doesn't that make Bill Clinton a Draft Dodger too ???
theotas -- What President Obama was signaling is for CONGRESS to do their JOB. Stimulus in the form of putting people to work not stimulating the .01 percent through QE. Nice try at spin. He's reiterating the FED's message yesterday. Congress needs to wake up, get to work and quit halting economic recovery. Those obstructionists in Congress need to be voted right out of their cushy GOVERNMENT JOB. That's right -- those obstructionists are abusing taxpayer dollars by only working a few days every few weeks. Talk about leeches!
Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL
Jody,
I like that one, but, I ♥ Rick Perry's description of Willard being a "vulture capitalist"!
OK..I'll play :
Venture / Vulture Capitalism, Whatever.....Is when investors take and put their own money at risk...
On the Other hand, Your Anointed One practices Venture / Vulture Socialism, when he takes Taxpayer money and puts it at risk, doles it out to his political supporters and Bundlers only to lose it by the basket-full after redoing the terms to make sure only the taxpayer loses and not his friends......Can you say SOLYNDRA ??.....Just for starters....I'll refrain from the whole list....it's quite long.
Dont carry,
Please to not accuse me of spinning anything. What you hear from me is honest concern, and I am not buying into this latest request for a QE-3
The states needs to learn to live within their needs.
Sure can - but can you say Konarka??? That is just for starters, I could go on, but the list would be quite long.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-06-06/three-of-12-ventures-funded-by-romney-created-energy-fund-failed
Still waiting for Harry Reid to pass a budget in the Senate.... still waiting for Harry Reid to allow the thirty some bills that have passed in the House to even come up for a vote.... what's Harry afraid of.... oh, doing his job! He knows that if the Senate has to vote on real jobs bills they'll be held accountable for their NO votes... and 2012 will be even worse for them than 2010.... and he knows that if he passes a budget, Obozo won't get to continue to deficit spend $1.3 Trillion a year. If there were a Scott Walker living in Nevada, we could have sent Harry into retirement. Now we'll just have to yank his Senate Majority Leader title...
Oh my God Delray, and what about Cheney's Vietnam years???
And he did it on non-foreign soil and used the "I'm too stupid for college excuse".
Feisty and her friends are really reaching now....but a drowning man will grab for anything I suppose. RedDevPS, what dems and libs miss is the fact that Bain Capital used private funds in their investments. Solyndra was partially, $537 million worth, funded by tax payers. There is a huge difference.
WOW: I see MSNBC "restored" Feisty (Fishy) again. Does she work there and spew it's propaganda. Who else has anyone seen "restored" lately. BTW: Has anyone ever seen her sanctioned for insulting others? AND how is it that she is number 1 all the time with her long comments. Advance notice or does she work there? If she works at MSNBC propaganda must be her full time job as she has no time for anything else.
"damage" wrote:
"damage"....Since it is a pretty big word, you can be excused for not including "ignorant" in your very accurate description of the teabaggers. When you repeat the same debunked lies over and over, it means one of two things. You would be better off sticking with stupid and inbred because the other option is that you are lying, racist scum. At least being stupid and inbred is of no fault of your own.
There is no such thing as a "tea party". Teabaggers are nothing more than parasites leaching off of the Republicans...the Republicans that have sold their souls to the devil for a few votes. The original Boston Tea Party was a demonstration by the colonists against being taxed without representation. As a result, the United States became the best example in the world of a representative government and still remains so to this day. To say otherwise would be unAmerican...which is another description of the teabaggers that you missed. The fact that teabaggers would rape American history to further the evangelical agenda shows that you are either woefully ignorant of American history or, again, that you are lying, deceitful scum.
Stick with stupid. It makes you look better than you really are...and then quit being such a crybaby.
Says the one using the moniker Gil - oh the irony.
Sarah-3043284
No not really. Please quote where I've ever called Bush a name?
How about you provide a link showing where that poster accused you of calling Bush names. I can't reference that particular thread because you did not include that information.
You caught that too! lol
Just another large mouth ass to ignore... ;o)
Why is everything such a conspiracy theory with these paranoid clowns?
For those who were not yet born during the Vietnam era, and the others around here like Amy and Derek who apparently were too stoned to remember it:
"The Vietnam-era draft, said the commanding officer in Vietnam, William Westmoreland, was "discriminatory, undemocratic and resulted in the war being fought by the poor man's son." During the Vietnam War 27 million men were eligible for the draft (women were not drafted). Some 2.2 million men were drafted and 8.7 million voluntarily enlisted. Some 16 million men (59 percent of draft-aged men) received deferments, exemptions, or disqualifications-if they had the right connections or occupations, attended college, or had physical problems that allowed them to avoid military service. Another 500,000 resisted or evaded the draft by declaring themselves conscientious objectors, hiding, or going to Canada. (In contrast, about 75 percent of the men born between 1919 and 1926 served in World War II, and most of the rest were exempted only for physical or mental handicaps.)"
"The Vietnam War was fought by working-class teenagers," writes Loren Baritz in his book Backfire: A History of How American Culture Led Us into Vietnam and Made Us Fight the Way We Did. "The entire nation went to war, except for the rich, the middle class, the vast majority of college students, and individuals who objected to war, or who objected to that war....Poor young Americans, white as well as black and Hispanic, were twice as likely to be drafted and twice as likely to be assigned to combat as wealthier draft-aged youth."
http://www.teachablemoment.org/high/youandmilitary6.html
I loves me soazDans that continually prove that, while they can read words, they can't put them together in any meaningful comprehensive way. Explain to us Drowning-Danny boy, in your acid induced LALA-land world, what is the difference between Governor Romney investing taxpayer money into a failed green energy company and President Obama investing tax payer money into a failed green energy company.
RedDevPS and Feisty (Fishy); First look at the above criticism @ 1.82 and then think about uneducated people, who think they are important but are unaware that the breathing mechanism used by fish is a "Gill" not a "Gil". There are always deadheads around.
Also, you sound really whiney. Kind of similar to "I know you are but what am I???"
How desperate
One work on your reading comprehension, your reply does not relate to my post hardly at all.
I never said YOU called anyone anything, and I never used Hussein ever in any of my posts. I was talking libs and cons in general as you were.
As for the last statement, you really need to get out of mommy mode when you post, I simply made an observationbased on the complete one sidedness of your post and asked a question, because your post was, in fact, totally hypocritical.
The Obama middle name thing to poke at those who believe he is Muslim or whatever is no different that slurs like "Bushie" and "Shrub" to appeal to those who believed Bush was an idiot (with a 125 IQ, but whatever) or to simply demean him.
It appears you have way too much pent up frustration and anger to have any kind of discourse with those with whom you do not agree, that is the very definition of bigotry. Do you really want to come off like that?
So I think we can safely say, compared to Clinton and/or Cheney, Obama faced the highest probability of being drafted had he been of age during the Vietnam War. Thank you for putting this to rest, Bill-Fairfax.
theotas -- A few Fed members and the markets wanted QE3. Bernake chose to take a wait and see approach.
Economists studying the impact of QE say another round would have negligible results. In my opinion any stimulus should be directed at putting people to work. The sooner the better. Such as a massive investment in our infrastructure.
Obama is a run-away favorite? No suspense?
Nobody wants that, at least not the media - which has an ax to grind to put spin on things - more money to be made if it's a close race, or other BS
Can we get some more shovel ready and green jobs like u gave us in your last stimulus mister president?
Oops, I guess the use of the word irony was a stretch, I should have used the word humor. The poor humorless soul must think irony is the thingamajig/thingamabob used to press clothes.
RedDevPS
Sure can - but can you say Konarka
So we are talking about failed green energy concerns now? So you are saying that Romney helped fund some business and 3 out of the 12 failed anyway. How about the 12 out of 12 that the Obama funded with our tax dollars. And what about the executive compensation for those 12
You can read the CBS article on it hare:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57358484/tax-dollars-backing-some-risky-energy-projects/
DCIA - I particularly liked this article, where Bernake basically tells Congress - get off your ASS and do your job. The Fed and the President have done what they can, now it is time for Congress to get busy.
http://economywatch.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/07/12107344-bernanke-to-congress-its-your-turn-to-act?lite
So we are talking about failed green energy concerns now?
Rick - just debunking the bullcrap posted by the indignant right wing freaks. Speaking of which, what is your point? In my view, Romney's 3/12 fail record is comparable to Obama's 5/12 fail record in green energy companies, meaning, if folks are going to post rant after rant after rant about Obama's green investment record, then they better man up and accept equal criticism to Romney's equally poor record.
And what of executive compensation from Obama's list of companies - how is it any different than executive compensation in Romney's list of companies.
Ok I know this is about Obama VS Mitt Romney. And you all are doing such a fine job at arguing points. Some relevant some not.
This is what I don't get. Why does it really matter which party gets into the oval office. Face it most of us are the disappearing middle class. And neither party cares. Dems pander to the poor under served so to say. And the republicans pander to Corporate oil and defense contractors.
We have seen what the republicans have done with Offshoring jobs to India, Mexico and China. And we have seen what Dems have done to hand out wads of money as well.
Is it not our own responsibility as citizens to turn the country around ourselves. Each personally doing our part without the help of the Federal government. Conservatives say they want a smaller Government yet modern day ones. Have the record of starting Stupid wars. Dems say they want to help the middle class and yet still follow suit and Bail out banks and Car companies.
The only way our country can get back to Good times. Is if more of us get that desire to create our own destiny back. Not waiting for Who gets elected, But changing our buying habits, and focus on OWNING a company rather than working for one.
The old way was Go to school go to college, Get good grades, Get a good job. And retire and die. Now its Go to school get into debt. Get no job and complain about it. Or create and idea and go for it. Even if you have to start out of the trunk of a car.
Red Dev -- That's an excellent article and it might give a little clarity to theotas.
Rick -- Why don't you ask Congress why they put aside 10 billion for losses under the energy loan program?
Three Days to Try and Forget the First Four:
(then on to Jody's cogent timeliness)
Wisconsin stayed true to the polling and re-affirmed Governor (and oh so indictable) Scott Walker over now two time loser Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett. Both parties put a massive ground game in effect with Barrett receiving more votes than in the 2010 election, yet Walker received EVEN more votes than in the 2010 contest. Interesting note, private sector union workers broke 50/50, while public sector workers broke 70/30 for Barrett. One lesson might be, don't run the previous loser from the last election, because, he's...you know...a loser. Sure a fine fellow, but a loser, none the less. Second lesson, unions better get their solidarity house in order. When private sector union workers are breaking 50/50 for someone they know is planning on right to work (for less), something is wrong with the communication/persuasion effort. Third lesson, Citizens United is a terrible decision, allowing 75% of Walker's money to come in from out of state, essentially subverting democracy to the aims of plutocracy. Happy plutocracy, y'all.
Speaking of subverting democracy, Florida governor (and Voldemort doppleganger) Rick Scott has been busy turning the Sunshine state into a banana republic with his "Let's purge the Democrats" registration "reforms". Not saying that it's a low down, dirty, illegal move, but the Governor's own Secretary of State (the job Kathyrn Harris made so infamous) resigned rather than implement it. Further, county election supervisors across the state have rebelled against the Governor and are not enacting his foul designs. To add a dash of Federal spice to the banana flan down there, the Dept. of Justice has told Scott that his actions are in violation of the Voting Rights Act. To which the Governor whined, "I'm only trying to have fair elections." You know, where my side votes and yours doesn't. You know, fair. Even more shocking, letters that have been sent to people being purged have found...wait for it...they were registered voters. I tell you, I'm shocked, just shocked to think a Teapublican governor and a Teapublican legislature would try to disenfranchise their opponents. Must have learned it from them communists they claimed to hate for all them years. Well, with Cuba so close by, I can see how those bad influences could rub off. Maybe Rubio can set the Castro's up with a nice retirement villa, if he can remember which charge card to use.
With the summer doldrums wafting about on the zephyrs of ennui, the media is trying to "tighten up the race" between the President and the Mittronic Rombot. The Rombot is clamoring about the President's "immoral" economic policies, because the "Solyndra egg" is still sliding off Mittronic's face (Konarka, much?). To hear Rombot spew such hideous, hypocritical clap-trap begs the question: "Hey, have you read the Ryan budget you're so eager to impose?". Not for nothing, but many religious leaders (you know, the people you supposedly represent) call that budget plan immoral. Moreover, should we talk about the Rombot's days as a capitalist mosquito, where he sucked out the lifeblood and left behind the disease? So, really, don't go there. Assuring that summer will be legislation free and/or unhelpful to the American public, Eric Cantor told his boss to go on a bender and let the rest of the monkeys out too. The Teapublican House is taking the term "welfare queens" to new heights with their bold do-nothing attitude.
Turning to outside the U.S. bubble, President/Prime Minister for life Vladimir Putin has just signed some legislation that must have Teapublicans drooling with envy. In instances where "public order" is violated, the government of Russia can now impose 300,000 ruble ($9,100) fines. This amount represents one years wages to the average Russian citizen. The main flaw in the new law, apparently it violates Article 31 of the Russian constitution which protects citizens freedom of assembly. But hey, why would an ex-K.G.B. colonel let a little thing like "rule of law" get in his way? See, Rick Scott, that's how you do it.
Finally, I usually like to end on an upbeat note, but this week I cannot do that. As a former resident of North Dakota, I saw some interesting things, learned a lot of new ideas and met some really great people. It was where I saw my first northern lights, sun dogs, "snirt" storms and white outs. I learned about lutefisk, -70 actual and -100 windchill (though once it get below zero, the only difference is how fast it kills you, not how it feels), that the state bird is the mosquito and the state tree is the phone pole. I saw that even the flattest landscape can hold surprising beauty. Now what I'm learning is the "drill, baby, drill" crowd is up to their same old tricks, tricks they perfected in Texas and Oklahoma, and they've taken them to the northwest corner of North Dakota among the prairies and the badlands, where durum wheat, cattle and trust are the most important crops. What tricks, you ask? Using fracking, oil companies are dumping millions of gallons of waste water "brine" into aquifers, surface streams, lakes, farm and ranch land. This brine is salty water containing carcinogenic chemicals and heavy metals that poison land and water for decades if not centuries. One of the main reasons for this destruction is the metal sodium locks up nutrients in the soil, not allowing them to be absorbed by plant life. In areas where brine has been spilled, weeds will not even grow, allowing this soil to be lost to erosion and spread the salts to other arable land. Oil companies in the area say, "This is how business is done." The state, controlled by a Teapublican governor and legislature will not hire inspectors to police pollution laws. In on instance, an oil company spilled over 2,000,000 gallons of brine and the state listed it at 12,600 gallons. Said state official Kris Roberts,"If we try and revisit the past over and over and over again, what's it going to do? It's almost like rubbing salt in a raw wound." Yes, salt in a raw wound on land, once usable, now worthless. Land owners cannot get support from the government and often time take low ball settlements rather than risk legal bills in court. So when the "drill, baby, drill" crowd decries green energy and higher mileage standards and more efficient electrical use; ask them to take a few gallons of water to Poplar, North Dakota. Because, thanks to the greed of the oil companies and the sloth of the government, they're going to need it.
Try to have a nice weekend.
Right On Schedule: The republicanCrimeCartel Created this disaster back in Reagan's time and Perfected it with the Bushies, especially during KingGeorge the VaccumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001 - 2008. FACE IT Fellow and Sister Americans, The republicanCrimeCartel IS Causing this Depression we are back into to get people mad at Prez O and vote for Rommel and Christy?? EGADZ!! They are like Dracula and Goring. You know what Rommel's got in mind: HUGE American military, OTHER PEOPLE's Sons fighting Newly thought up And VERY PROFITABLE WARS And NO American Universal National healthCare System. Even Prez O was "forced" to cut a deal with the powerful health insurance industry. Does ANYONE KNOW what the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats: $128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and DIED. The fact that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like the other countries, WHO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS, instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for THEIR Unending Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE... YEAH!!, A lot of US are mad at Prez O; He let the $4.00+Gas and oil go by without a protest OR Complaint to the Justice Dept Going after the oil companies for price fixing And price GOUGING. AND that shaking hands with karzai of afghan after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONEtheless has anybody got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US and ANY economic progress made?? He will GUT US LIKE A FLAPPIN' FISH ON THE DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 30% and NO Social Security..Gotta Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE
AND "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. Don't fall for the republicanCrimeCartelPropaganda and just say NO!!! to MittTaxPittanceRommel, 'cause IF YOU Think Rommel is the Beginning of OUR Healing, He's REALLY the End of America and Democracy.
Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar Fortune.
Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy, ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including Many Many Suicides While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of service to his country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by helping me get elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse car elevator for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up People...This guy IS Count Dracula In carnate.
F----- Redhead
Congrats on your recent success on getting rid of Scott Walker ! You had a great attack plan on that one !
I can only hope that you are just as successful with your new series attacking Romney.
Why don't you call " The Hack Attack" ? That way everyone will know who's leading the charge.
Media Magical Mystery Headline Tour--AKA, Twist & Shout.
"Obama keeps his distance from Wisconsin Recall", Wash Post, Tuesday. Why no equally true version, "Romney keeps his distance from Wisconsin Recall". Seriously, the modern media fair and balanced reporting should have had this headline: "Romney and Obama keep their distance from Wisconsin Recall".
Anyone see Mitt Romney supporting Walker, campaigning for Walker this month or even standing on the stage with Walker (he was barely in the same room with Walker during the WI presidential primary earlier this year? Thought not. So much for that liberal media bias the right whines about.
"Barack on Broadway.....The President Joins Bill Clinton and billionaires....", thus saith Kathleen Parker. This magical twist and shout op ed was written the same day as this one could have been written: "Mitt in Texas....The Candidate Joins Texas billionaires." Please notice the suggestion by Ms Parker of celebrity--"Barack on Broadway". Is Ms. Parker suggesting there is something nefarious about "Barack and billionaires" while she finds nothing wrong with Mitt and billionaires? Yes, we know Kathleen Parker is a conservative editorial writer so her comments will be anti-left, pro-right. But really, what a crock of "pious baloney".
"Walker Wins Recall, Labor Loses". Anyone remember the equally gloom and doom national headline in November, 2011, that should have read Kasich Loses, Labor and Ohio Citizens Win....voters 2 to 1 rejected anti-collective bargaining law passed by republicans. Seems the Kasich headline wasn't worthy of national news attention, just the GOP win in Wisconsin.
"Obama on the Defensive...." (big bold headline)....."Romney, by comparison, largely escapes criticism" (small print). Where was the headline "Romney Continues to Escape Media Scrutiny". Mitt is not just exaggerating or slanting things his way, he is flat out lying but crickets from that biased, liberal media.
"Frustrated Liberals Want More From Obama", (AP) was one headline story in the local paper this morning. Right below it "Conservatives, Romney Work at Working Together" (AP). Both stories, when read, pointed out unhappiness with some members of their party's base yet there is obvious positive tone of the Romney headline versus a negative tone with the Obama headline. The AP could just as easily have printed the Obama headline as a positive and the Romney headline as a negative but for whatever reason these days, Romney goes uncriticized for the same issues that President Obama is scrutinized. It's that liberal, media bias I guess.
One thing we know in today's hectic lives of people. Headlines tell the story for many, the story itself more often receives a scan and not a full read. The impression the headline gives is what many take away from the story even when the story itself often does not match the big, bold, attention grabbing headline.
Our free press is part of what makes this country a democracy. Sadly, today's Internet and social media are replacing printed newspapers, magazines. The media uses those headlines to grab the attention of readers or those passing the news stands. However, it is simply wrong to print headlines which "twist and shout" something that really isn't part of the whole story. Implying negativity to one candidate over the other is just wrong and not what the media should be doing regardless of how badly they want attention. Too many readers never get beyond the headline and that headline is what they remember.
It's been said that 2008 was the year journalism died. Â Today's Washington Post has a long, whining piece on the importance of investigative journalism- how important Woodward and Bernstein are to America, as giants in the field.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/forty-years-after-watergate-investigative-journalism-is-at-risk/2012/06/07/gJQArTzlLV_story.html
While there is plenty of handwringing, there seems to be no acknowledgment of the fact that they have COMPLETELY DROPPED THE BALL.
Dollars to Donors? Â Nope. Â Obama categorically refusing a special prosecutor to look into national security leaks that, incidentally, help his campaign? Â Nope. Â Not even something like this-
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/06/07/holder_emails_with_fast__furious_have_nothing_to_do_with_operation.html
That falls into their laps gets a mention. Â Hey, WaPo- a border agent was murdered with a gun provided to the murderer by OUR JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. Â Eric Holder is likely to be held in contempt of congress very soon. Â Then, there is this blatant lie with the proof, in black and white, staring him in the face.
Get it, WaPo? People don't read your paper because they get the propaganda for free- often even unwanted- in their email every single day. Â Jim Messina disseminates the talking points very well- all while begging for money, to be sure- so, why buy a paper to read the same malarkey?
Tell you what- try actually DOING some investigative journalism, then see if circulation perks up. Â It's worth a shot.
To the harridan in NJ........you might do better addressing you complaints to the corporate owners of the newspapers and the media.
I read where CNN, made a corporate decision to try to make themselves more like Fox and their viewership is down 52%.
Some call Mitt Romney the Big Fish, what's up with that ??????????
GM- I believe the topic was print journalism, not cable news.
I neither know nor care about the ratings of CNN, Fox, or any other 24/7 news outlet.
No chance no joe, print rags are a dying breed. Especially rags like the WaPo that think a 5000 word front page piece on an episode rom Romney's teen years is relevant -- like more relevant than Obama's heavy drug use as a young man. Or rags like the NYT that publish classified information to make their candidate of choice look like a tough guy.
The folks who write for the WaPo should go out and find a real job, while the folks who write for the NYT should go to jail. So explain to us again Jody that there's no liberal bias in the MSM. Rubbish.
Jody,
Clearly Walker did not need a push where Barrett did. See definition of winner if that helps clear up your confusion.
Your desperation is showing.
Well, I've got places to go and doctors to see, so here's my wrap up
Here is what else happened this week-
 Displaying his usual, uncanny ability to misunderstand the economy, Obama proposed that each person who votes for him be given $3000- (no mention of any stipend for Romney voters; never mind where this money comes from).  He thinks it might stimulate the economy- particularly if you use it to pay down debt.  I'm tired of explaining why this is wrong- but, no fear!  He also has another idea- you can use the three grand  to buy a thingamajig for your furnace.Â
.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/06/01/obama_buying_a_thingamajig_with_spare_money_is_good_for_business.html
Perhaps all those green energy firms Obama invested taxpayer monies in that went belly-up were too busy making whatchamacallits, rather than the more desirable thingamajigs. Â
On the other hand, the Obama administration sure knows how to spin things to make  epic failures look like successes
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/07/1098309/-Green-Jobs-Gubmint-accounting-can-t-we-do-better
So, those 3 million "green jobs" he "created"? Â Well, he "created" them by renaming jobs that already existed. Â So much easier than doing the real thing. Â (and, yes, I really did just link to the DailyKos- some things even the far left cannot ignore. Â Funny how the mainstream media can.)
Along those lines, Obama has finally figured out the culprit behind the lousy economy-It's congress' Â fault the economy sucks
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/president-obama-blames-congress-weak-jobs-report/story?id=16476623#.T9COhip5mSM
Or, maybe it's the Europeans fault
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-blames-europe-energy-prices-slow-u-job-182229655--business.html
Or Bush.  Or the Japanese tsunami.  Or ATMs, the Internet, or airport kiosks.  Anyway, it's not HIS fault.  Cause he's, you know, totally  ineffective.
There's big news headed our way on health care, but never fear-Democrats are ready to go when the SCOTUS hands down a decision about Obamacare- with all contingencies covered
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-05-31/obama-tells-donors-health-care-fight-may-loom-after-court-rules?r=bloomberg
I especially love the part where they have plans for both "spontaneous" celebrations and protests. Â Tell me, was it not too long ago when "spontaneous" groups of women were shown weeping over the demise of the North Korean Dear Leader? Â And weren't some of them sent to labor camps for not wailing loudly enough? Â I guess that's where Obama got the idea.
Along those same lines, Democrats got their long used weapon turned against them, when Romney protestors showed up for an Axelrod speech in Boston
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/230261-romney-supporters-shout-down-axelrod-criticism-of-former-governors-record
Seems Democrats think it is just hunky dory when they send plants into crowds-and deny they sent them- but it is "unfair" when that same tactic is used against them- and owned.
More evidence that Obama is completely unsuited to the job of Commander in Chief came to light this week- first, with the announcement that he had used his super cool powers to deliver death at the push of a button on the same day Scott Walker was re-elected in Wisconsin, then, with this
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/06/white-house-mccain-tangle-over-leaks-125471.html
The Senate committee investigating this
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77158.html
Wants a special prosecutor. Â Obama, the champion of transparency, says no way. Â Anyone outside the cult doubt that there is a direct line between these leaks and the Obama campaign? Â
In Wisconsin, Walker won, but many democrats are comforted by Obama's "big lead" in Wisconsin, as reported by exit polls. Â Exit polls that were wrong, by the way, as they showed the race too close to call at the close of the actual polls. Â The race was called forty five minutes later- and Walker won by seven points. Â Now, while it is true that exit pollsters reweight to the raw vote after results come in, that is only done for the top lines-not the down ticket questions. Â
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/06/07/a_closer_look_at_those_wisconsin_exit_polls.html
So, sorry, Chuck Todd- the reweighted questions did NOT continue to show a big Obama lead in Wisconsin. Â There is not that level of cognitive dissonance in Wisconsin-far from it. Â In fact, you really cannot calculate, from these results, where the race stands- but it's probably close.
Of course, the liberals can take some comfort in winning a Senate seat in Wisconsin- except that the vote was so close that there will probably be a recount. Â And the Wisconsin Senate will not meet until well after the November election- where 16 seats are up, in redrawn districts. Â Did I mention the Republicans redrew the districts? Â No? Â I should have, cause I think that's important. Â So, when the Wisconsin Senate DOES meet again in January 2013, in all likelihood there will be a bigger republican majority. Â Oh, well- how much did these fruitless recalls cost? Â Oh, that's right- its only money.
Speaking of money, the Romney campaign out raised the Obama campaign by $17 million in May- but Messina touts Obama's "small donor base"- you know, the people who pony up three bucks for a chance to win dinner with Obama. Â Is it just me, or have winners never been announced? Â I mean, you'd think the person who won the dinner at Clooney's place would have made the news- after all, you guys did a great marketing job on the contest. Â In fact, NONE of the winners have ever been named- kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it? Â
There are reports that the $25 million ad buy Obama had in swing states got him nowhere- his polling is either flat, or actually lower than before the ad buy. Â I also understand they spent mega bucks on campaign infrastructure- salaries, web advertising and links, to say nothing of the computer hardware costs!-so, at least when Obama loses, it won't be because they are using dinosaur computers. Â It's nice to know he wastefully spends his own campaign money as easily as he wastes ours.
Then, just this morning, there was this
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77201.html
Wow. Â So the joke-in-really-bad-taste about his own wife was lifted from the country's biggest misogynist- who objects to Obama stealing his material? Â The wheels really are coming off.
June has been lousy for Team Obama so far. Â There is a mole at Justice who provided a congressional committee with information Eric Holder insisted did not exist. Â Initial claims for unemployment are headed toward 400,000 a week. Â Michigan and Colorado are now rated toss-ups, as polling indicates they are tied between Obama and Romney. Â And whatever decision SCOTUS makes on Obamacare hurts his campaign.
Yup. Â Everyday, in every way, it is more apparent that voters want
Obama shelved in 2012.
Peggy Noonan's comments are incredibly cogent:
"President Obama's problem now isn't what Wisconsin did, it's how he looks each day—careening around, always in flight, a superfluous figure. No one even looks to him for leadership now. He doesn't go to Wisconsin, where the fight is. He goes to Sarah Jessica Parker's place, where the money is."
http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html
Obama talks a good game, but he his liberal orthodoxy has failed and his narcissistic behavior is alienating many of his supporters. If the main stream media was during their jobs, informing the public instead of giving cover for Democrats, our country would be much better off.
NOBAMA 2012
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Yeah, Bill in Fairfax, keep listening to Rush Limbaugh. He will feed you all the fodder you need. No worry.
Snookie Joe, normally I just ignore your rambling but you miss my primary point. My complaint is not about "investigative journalism" because there are many, many journalists who do that hard work of digging in the weeds to find the truth and they do an excellent job of it. My complaint here is the distortion of and misleading headlines for both political candidates which does impact people's perception of what is actually happening.
RationalOne, sorry, desparation is not in my DNA. My point has nothing to do with which candidate needed a boost, it was the hypocrisy of that headline. FYI, the polls right up to election night indicated a very close race that could go either way. To put it more bluntly to you, if President Obama had gone to Wisconsin, you and the others right-wingers complaining that he didn't go to WI would be the first ones to hit FR to gloat that Obama went and Walker won or you would have ignored it completely if Obama went and Barrett one. Now, that's the simple truth.
Draft dodging because of religious obligation.. wow that's a stretch. Conscientious objection is how we describe Mohamid Ali (sp?) because of his religion, President Clintion was just absent, W did join the National Gaurd. Out of all of those Religion seems to be the most valid. I guess there are no legitimate reasons for action - or inaction - in your life, shame its so empty.
As for the vulture capitalist remark, don't be angry but Mr Romeny's record in private equity PALES in comparison to that individual who's is currently running OBAMA's re-election campaign financing operation - A record i would call success but you deem vulture.. spare your venom for him there black pot?
joshua w morris ( not afraid to pee in the wind)
Another great post no joe, no bo!
Peggy Noonan, cogent? God, I loathe that woman.
The Right has their elderly columnists, who were ensconced during George Bush SR.'s reign, but the Left have Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, who, let's face it, are more cogent than the over paid, always wrong partisan pundits David Brooks, Peggy Noonan, Cal Thomas, and Kathleen Parker. (Not to mention Limbauugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, and on and on.) The Right has way too much influence in political punditry, if you ask me.
Oh, good grief, quoting Peggy Noonan, a republican who does not like President Obama, who continues to glorify the myth of Reagan as some expert on President Obama. Where was Mitt Romney, Peggy? Wasn't he paling around with Texas billionaires on Walker's big night, too? George W. Bush was flying around campaigning all over in 2004 so where's Peggy cricitism of Bush. What a crock of GOP baloney. Spin, Peggy, spin, it's obvious the John's and Bill's will relish every nugget of empty caloried sweet candy you provide.
No change in some things this week--No Joe is still afraid to post a weekly wrap up on her own. Mitt Romney still afraid to release his tax returns--what is in them?
Jody---the media these days are the kings and queens of false equivalence. Very sad to me.
A vote for Romney is a vote for lining the pockets of his corrupt friends !!!!!!!!!!
Peggy Noonan is great (and kinda hot for an old chick), but Ann Coulter is even better.
RevengeofPodus
You cannot use Religion as a reason to be against a war so you don't have to go to war and at the same time call for war every chance you get but don't go yourself or ask your own sons to join.
You say Romney didn't join because of his religious beliefs? shouldn't he feel the same before he send other people's sons and daughters to die?
nope, and he didn't start wars, either.
W was a draft dodging chicken $hit. How many times was he AWOL?
again, religious beliefs are not excuses. You either have them or you don't but you don't get you pick and choose when they are convenient.
It's a shame big, bad, Snookie-Joe doesn't have the courage to stand on her own two feet!
She always has to ride someones coat-tails!
And the RWNJ's call her a force to be reckoned with, when in reality, she's a coward with a yellow streak down her back! lol
No Joe - or what ever your tag is. That is one long dumb assed post. I bet you think your a political genius. This is going to be a close race, do not let a bad week fool you.
Republicans and conservatives have lost their way and no longer care about this country or its future. I am absolutely blown away by the way you are doing things and who you are attacking in this country and calling yourselves great americans based on some kind of neo-conservative nonsense.
Bill - most of us just scroll past no joe's post - especially on Friday. She's trying to outdo Jody's weekly wrap-up - which is usually great. Instead njnb posts rambling nonsense that is totaly stupid. So, rather than read it it's better just to scroll past her lack of intelligence.
She shows daily that there is absolutely no sanity in the GOP!
Obama/Biden 2012
Hey, Snookie Joe, in case you didn't notice, you accidentally put your version of a weekly wrap on a completely unrelated post? Was that intentional or did you just fail to notice? Do you plan to attach it again later or quickly write another? My money says old Snookie Joe/No Joe simply looked for my name on Friday!
Jody - (chuckle) nojoe is just soooooo eager to try to top you she doesn't care where she posts her brilliant (NOT) post! What a joke - sad one but a joke just the same!
Safe bet Jody!
In her frenzy to latch onto you - she didn't even bother to read what you had written! lol
Not suprising...
I can't figure out why, if she thinks her work is so stellar, she can't go it alone?
Reminds me of how WCA has to hide behind SpankMe's skirt...
Let's see if I can get this right:: Romney was a pro war draft doger who was against the anti-war protesters?
Rational AmeriCAN
SO talking about anything Mitt is misinformation? Don't you want to know what your candidate stands for? because no one seems to know who Mitt is.
Jody-
I agree with the print media distortion. The headline a few days ago touted how the presidential TV ads were surprisingly almost 50% Positive and 50% Negative. The article then detailed how 70% of Obama's ads were positive and 70% of Romney's were negative, which added up to 50%-50%. How misleading can a headline get?
The newspapers also talked about how outside money was pouring into Wisconsin, and barely mentioned it was overwhelmingly in support of Waker. Exit polls also showed it was not that voters agreed with Walker's tactics, it was just that they didn't think that was a reason for recall.
You have to dig hard anymore to find the real truth.
bayllie....(#2.25).."Let's see if I can get this right:: Romney was a pro war draft doger who was against the anti-war protesters?"
Let's see if I can get this right::....Bill Clinton was a Rhodes (my superior brain is too rare and important to be splattered in the jungles of Vietnam) Scholar Anti-War Draft Dodger organizing and attending Anti-War rallies in Europe....
But he did bomb Baghdad's Aspirin factories to draw attention away from Monica....so he gets a pass ????
Sooner or later, someone is going to leak Obama's college transcripts... then, despite all the slobbering nd fawning by the MSM and the rest of the cult, we'll see that, as Foghorn Leghorn put it:
"That boy's about as shaaarp as a bowling ball"
Mike in Delray
and how many Bill Clinton wars do we have going on or had going on? Do you want to compare it to the draft-dodgin AWOL Bush? How about what Romney wants: wars wars wars?
The point of my statement was Romney being for something while he is againsts it ALL AT THE SAME TIME. He is so ignorant that he will avoid going to Vietnam (for whatever his reasons are) but will criticize people for wanting the same??????? HYPOCRITE!
Ok, this statement is just exploding with facts....seriously!
Bayllie:
Lets be clear on something here. I don't give two @!$%#s about Romney's, Obama's, Bush's, Clinton's, etc military service. Neither should you.
What I do care about and so should you, is putting 15% of our population back to work. Mr. Obama has failed to do that. His experiment in Keynesian economic stimulus failed to do the trick. You can cry all we need is more time and more stimulus all you want but I am not for spending $300k for each job it created.
Take the shackles off the economy and see what happens.
Repeal Obamacare and replace it with a bipartisan healthcare plan to control costs.
Remove the uncertainty over taxation on corporations and individuals.
Tap the Green River Shale's 3 trillion barrels of oil. Use some of the money for spending and most of it for debt payment. 75% of it is on federal land.
Stop vilifying Business and Success.
See what happens.
Mr. Romney is a businessman who understands the economy far better than Mr. Obama. Instead of pointing out all of a human beings perceived flaws perhaps you could focus on the positives the person brings.
Mr. Obama, for example, is a positively great speaker. Mr. Obama, stand up and tell us what you would do independent of payoffs to your special interests - Unions, Environmentalists, and LGBT's. Will he show that courage. No way in hell.
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Who said this?
and
Answer: Grover Cleveland, the first Democrat elected president post Civil War.
Fed Up-2683606
Is that what you said about Bush when his transcripts leaked out? I mean he had a solid C average while not having a financial care in the world. No double shifts to pay for college, no sacrificing time that could be spent on studying.
You make it quite easy to prove you a fool. Clinton led this great nation in these two wars:
Somalia,
Bosnia,
and failed to engage in the war on terror (1993 WTC bombing, Nigerian Embassy Bombing, etc.)
Where did Romney say he wanted 3 wars? Citation please.
You need to study up on your Lincoln and be silent, Bayllie.
I remember when Kerry tried to point this out only to find out Kerry's grades were worse than Bush's.
Well, I backed Gingrich after reading his book to save america, I really learned alot,and because he understands the bigger picture,"Experienced"( Gingrich is not the same man he was when he divorced his wife).. I backed Santorum because Christian or not the ten commandments are a good rule of thumb, and we need to get our principles back. If this nation got back to it's founding principles God and Country, all the other problems would solve themselves.We have too many people acting like uncivilized animals. I backed Perry because I thought he had spine. I will back Romney because we can't have another 4 years of liars and theives. Maybe if we have an example of a president that has worked to get what he has, alittle might rub off on all the slackers.
Because everything about him is fishy?
RevengeofPodus -- I have not been in a position of facing a draft so I do not know how that feels. And I am not against deferments for legitimate reasons. Religion may be a legitimate reason, but the Mormon church was the only church given this exception -- That's the part that doesn't seem right.
In regard to Romney, he received four deferments total for serving a mission and being a college student. Once again, that is not what I question. What is questionable, and even detestable is this:
What I personally dislike is someone who supports sending others to their death, and then on top of it, lies about his/her own evasion or positions on it.
side pocket-2096450 -- How about "Thou shalt not lie?" In his early writings, Adam Smith wrote that capitalism only works with ethics and charity. By all means, let's have this discussion about getting back to basic principles that made this country great, such as equality and fairness, such as profiting from producing goods and services rather than ripping other people off, etc.
Romney is so typical of many churchy people -- -- Just as long as I go to church and do good things in my personal life, business is business so predatory practices, cheating, etc. are okay in business.
you realize we have an all volunteer military, right?
Rational AmeriCAN -- Do you have a reading and comprehension problem? This is in reference to the Vietnam war of Romney's era, and in view of this record he therefore lacks credibility in being a neocon warmonger now or ever. The same has been said about Cheney. This is particularly relevant to those of us who remember the disgusting Swift-boating of John Kerry. Heck, the Teabaggers who made John McCain retreat from his position on torture. What is wrong with you rightwingers?
Rational AmeriCAN
Somalia - hahhaha, we were at war with Somalia??? We started the war with them???????
Bosnia - hahahaha, we were at war with Bosnia???? We started the war with them, too?????
You are comparing these two to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan?
let's see, 9/11 happened (much worse than 1993 bombing) because Bush was too busy clearing brush at his ranch (8th month on vacation?) to listen to the CIA intel. I guess you forgot about that, didn't you?
where did I say Romney wanted 3 wars? I said wars, wars, wars but I can see how you can count up to three. It was kinda a figure a speech so let me rephrase it for you so you understand: Wars! wars! wars! What I meant is that Romney loves wars - they make him feel like the man. He wants everyone to fear the US.
But lets see: even though the 9/11 commission determined that Bush started the war with Iraq either by lying or being incompetent (I'm paraphrasing a little but you can read the entire thing by clicking on my nick - it's posted there along with the link), Romney still supports the entire failure.
Romney doesn’t hold foreign policy positions so much as he mimics those who do. When Romney has to stake out a position one way or the other on a controversial question he is unable to show any leadership at all. So I cannot tell you what Romney is for because today, it's this and tomorrow it's that.
you need to learn the difference between a war, and a support for UN.
Bayllie,
Were Americans killed in the Balkans and in Somalia? Whether they were there because slick Willie was too big a pussy to go it alone or not does not change the fact that Americans fought there and died there, those were his wars. And then there was the Tomahawk missiles launched at milk bottling factories in Iraq because he was too busy getting a paint job from his intern. Last time I checked the UN is also in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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True Pat
Rational AmeriCAN
of course, and there will always be conflicts that we will have to get involved in but to compare Somalia to Iraq is just ridiculous. A 9 year war started becuase of a lie or plain incompentency of the president is sickening and proves exactly how people like Bush and Romney are hypocrites.
What would happen if anyone who was enlisted decided not to got to Iraq? What happens to soldiers who become AWOL - unless your last name is Bush, of course? Going to war is not exactly voluntary for a soldier, is it?
Right On Schedule: The republicanCrimeCartel Created this disaster back in Reagan's time and Perfected it with the Bushies, especially during KingGeorge the VaccumBrained during his NOTORIOUSLY SHAMEFUL Shrubber Reign 2001 - 2008. FACE IT Fellow and Sister Americans, The republicanCrimeCartel IS Causing this Depression we are back into to get people mad at Prez O and vote for Rommel and Christy?? EGADZ!! They are like Dracula and Goring. You know what Rommel's got in mind: HUGE American military, OTHER PEOPLE's Sons fighting Newly thought up And VERY PROFITABLE WARS And NO American Universal National healthCare System. Even Prez O was "forced" to cut a deal with the powerful health insurance industry. Does ANYONE KNOW what the ceo of United HealthCare took Home for 2008 Salary? Hold onto your hats: $128,000,000 *C A S H* WHILE, Mind You, their paid policyHolders were denied and DIED. The fact that America HAS NO Universal HealthCare System like the
other countries, which take care of their citizens, instead of fattening the wallets of the EVIL Rich and paying for THEIR Unending Wars, IS A NATIONAL DISGRACE... YEAH, A lot of US are REALLY mad at Prez O; He let the $4.00+Gas and oil go by without a protest OR Complaint to the Justice Dept To Go after the oil companies for price fixing And price GOUGING. AND that shaking hands with karzai of afghan after what he said????? "thanks sucker taxpayers..." NONEtheless has ANYBODY got an idea what republicanCrimeCartelSoldierRommel will do to US and ANY economic progress made?? He will GUT US LIKE A FLAPPIN' FISH ON THE DOCK.....You're gonna' see Unemployment up to 38% and NO Social Security..Gotta Pay for New Wars And NO MEDICAL CARE
AND "healthcare" policies cost SKYROCKET out of control. Rommel's pals on how to care for people who cannot afford $1000P/M "health Policy" Cost: Awww..Sick???Well, Die Quick!!!!
Here's the rundown on Mitt Romney's devastating record as CEO of Bain Capital, a tenure marked by bankruptcies, bailouts, and mass layoffs — all while Romney and his partners raked in Billions of Dollars in profits for the firm and Romney himself amassed a Quarter-Billion Dollar Fortune.
Romney's Bain Capital Caused Mass Layoffs, Sent Jobs Overseas
Thousands of Americans were laid off by Bain Capital at companies it purchased, managed, and, at least a quarter of the time, drove into bankruptcy, ruining Lives, Destroying Careers and Families including Many Many Suicides While stuffing his pockets, Keeping his Darling son OUT of service to his country with the line "My son is Fulfilling his Patriotic Duty by helping me get elected"...Got that one?? and, Of Course, installing the InHouse car elevator for his "darling little boy's $180,000Ferrari....Listen Up People...This guy IS Count Dracula In carnate.
Well, compared to Obama, Romney is looking good. Dis him all you want. Now Obama is wanting more government jobs, telling congress to hire more bureaucrats. What are they going to pay them with? Oh, yeah, taxes. Raise taxes. All Obama talks about is raising taxes and raising spending. Look how well that worked for Europe, but hey, just because you do the same failed things over and over again, doesn't mean you can't ask for more money.
We understand that there is a hard-core of Obama supporters always sitting on these threads. What is sad is that cognitive dissonance is so prevalent. One can always hope that intellect will prevail.
Well Phantom,
The fact that 1/3 of Medicare expenditures occur in the last year of life for the beneficiary and 1/3 of those expenditures occur in the last week of life, does that mean you are advocating for death panels?
How about the fact that Obamacare includes End of Life Discussions because studies show that people who have had an EOL Discussion are far less likely to spend more in their last week than those who have not had the discussion.
I only ask you these two questions because you are so enamored with Single Payer, Government provided healthcare modeled after the European systems which includes both EOL discussion and truncated end of life treatments. At least they don't issue bullets (yet).
Since Obamacare does nothing to control costs and will be ruled unconstitutional, why are you barking up that tree?
Right-Wing Billionaires Behind Mitt Romney
They're trying to buy a presidency - and they expect a big payoff on their investment
By Tim Dickinson
Even more money from megadonors is flowing into newly created Super PACs, which, unlike advocacy groups, can spend every cent they raise on direct attacks on an opponent. Under the new rules, the richest men in America are plying candidates with donations far beyond what Congress intended. "They can still give the maximum $2,500 directly to the campaign – and then turn around and give $25 million to the Super PAC," says Trevor Potter, general counsel of the Campaign Legal Center. A single patron can now prop up an entire candidacy, as casino magnate Sheldon Adelson did with a $20 million donation to the Super PAC backing Newt Gingrich.
GOLDMAN'S SUGAR DADDY: John Paulson
Position Hedge-fund colossus who profited from the nation's pain by shorting the housing market before the collapse. "I've never been involved in a trade with such unlimited upside," he bragged.
Age 56
Fortune $12.5 billion (Forbes rank: 17) In 2010, Paulson made a record $5 billion haul on Wall Street by speculating on gold.
Current Donations Gave $1 million to Romney's Super PAC. In April, hosted a high-dollar fundraiser for Romney at his home in Manhattan that did not appear on the candidate's schedule.
What He Wants No federal restrictions on Wall Street gambling. Paulson was a key player in Goldman Sachs' infamous Abacus deal. The bank let him pick assets to short, then marketed those toxic securities as high-grade investments. Paulson cleared $1 billion on the rigged deal.
THE VULTURE CAPITALIST: Paul Singer
Position Founder of Elliott Management, a hedge-fund firm that buys up "distressed debt" from Africa and South America, then squeezes countries to pay up.
Age 67
Fortune $1 billion
Current Donations Gave $1 million to Romney's Super PAC. Pushed to get New Jersey governor Chris Christie to enter the race, but Romney – whose personal trust has $1 million invested with Singer's hedge fund – was a clear second choice.
What He Wants Needs backing from the U.S. government for his lawsuit to collect more than $2 billion from Argentina. Also loathes the Federal Reserve, which he calls a "group of inbred academics."
THE QUANT MASTER: Robert Mercer
Position Co-CEO of Renaissance Technologies, a pioneer of the high-frequency "quantitative" trading that was implicated in the 2010 "flash crash" – one of the steepest one-day drops in Wall Street's history.
Age 65
Fortune Made $125 million in 2011 alone.
Current Donations Gave $1 million to Romney's Super PAC and $350,000 to the Club for Growth, an advocacy group devoted to lowering taxes for the wealthy.
What He Wants To squelch a proposed tax on stock transactions – a move that would limit his ability to game the market with algorithm-crunching computers.
THE KING OF CHICAGO: Kenneth Griffin
Position CEO of Citadel LLC, a hedge fund that accounted for nearly eight percent of all U.S. trading before the crash.
Age 43
Fortune $3 billion (Forbes rank: 171)
Current Donations Gave $1 million to Restore Our Future, plus another $1 million to American Crossroads. Believes that he and his fellow billionaires "actually have an insufficient influence" on the political process.
What He Wants An end to the Volcker Rule and Dodd-Frank, reforms that seek to rein in Wall Street excesses. Complains that "every bank in the United States is really under the thumb of the government." Has donated $1.5 million to Americans for Prosperity, a Koch brothers outfit that lobbies against environmental regulations.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/right-wing-billionaires-behind-mitt-romney-20120524?page=4
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My Dear old Redneck Daddy has been on my mind this week for some reason. Here’s another Redneck Daddyism.
“A Democrat will take the loose change out of your pocket and go on down the road just as happy as a Lark. A Republican on the other hand will take all of a Fellers folding money, complain that it’s not enough and then swear you didn’t give him anything to start with and then try to get you to go down to the bank and borrow more. Them Fellers have a much higher opinion of themselves and what they’re worth than is warranted by the circumstances.”
Dirty Little Red State Secret: ALEC is Behind the GOP’s Voter Purge
By: RmuseJune 7, 2012see more posts by Rmuse through Politicususa
The political philosophy that exalts nation and race above individual freedoms, and stands for a powerful autocratic government with severe social and economic regimentation and suppression of the opposition is fascism. It is, in every sense, the opposite of democracy and most Americans would rail against a fascist coup to take control of the country if they were intelligent enough to identify it before it was too late to act. Although it is not too late to act, if Americans continue ceding power to corporations, the wealthy, and religious institutions, America will be controlled by fascists and representative democracy will be a distant memory within a very short period of time. It should be apparent at this point in time that Republicans are driving America toward a fascist corporatocracy with their persistent entitlements for the wealthy, privatization schemes, and economic subjugation of the poor and middle class, and to fulfill their mission, they are silencing the opposition through voter disenfranchisement with help from recalcitrant Democratic voters.
The recent voter purge in Florida and Texas are the result of the American Legislative Exchange Council’s (ALEC) fascist voter ID laws, and even though ALEC announced they abandoned their "Public Safety and Elections Task Force," the damage is done because the ALEC-inspired laws are on the books and being implemented ahead of the November elections. However, even in states without harsh voter suppression laws, Republicans have used subversive tactics to make it difficult if not impossible for all Americans to exercise their right to vote. The recall election in Wisconsin on Tuesday highlighted Republican’s dirty tricks to convince voters that if they signed recall petitions or voted to recall Scott Walker, they were not required to vote again on Tuesday. Another group contacted voters by phone and informed them the recall election was on Wednesday, and both tactics violated Wisconsin law. The incidents, although despicable, are being repeated across the country and the goal is suppressing the Democratic-voting opposition.
Before California enacted a new voter law that allows Democrats to vote for Republicans and vice versa in primary elections, it was not uncommon for a registered Democratic voter to show up to their polling place and be handed a Republican ballot because the party affiliation was changed at some juncture without the voter’s approval. If a California voter registered as “decline to state,” they could request either a Democratic or Republican ballot, but poll workers consistently handed out Republican ballots as a matter-of-course and attempted to convince the voter that because the governor was a Republican, that was the only option available to “decline to state” voters. This author experienced that scenario for the past 12 primary elections and on two occasions it took election officials’ reprimands to finally get the right ballot. At another polling place, election workers cheered when a Republican voter signed in to vote with the comment “oh good, another patriot voting for a real American.” When the workers were reported to the registrar of voters, the person in charge dismissed the complaints and cited the First Amendment’s freedom of speech clause.
On Monday after the Department of Justice (DOJ) announced their personnel would monitor polling places in Fresno County, Cibola County, and the city of Milwaukee, conservative maniac Dana Loesch claimed, “the DOJ has, in the past, sanctioned "election monitoring" (after the fact) by New Black Panther Party members standing outside of the polls with nightsticks. What kind of "monitoring" will these federal employees engage in on Tuesday, an election where Republican Scott Walker is the likely victor?” Republicans and their conservative henchmen are not satisfied attempting to trick voters into voting on the wrong day, demand a voter ID, or purge them from the list of eligible voters, so they employ race-baiting and fear-mongering to keep stir up suspicion among voters.
There is an epidemic of voter apathy in America that allows Republicans to pursue their anti-American agenda with impunity, and between disenfranchising voters and obstructionist tactics in Congress, it is easy to see why so many Americans believe voting is a waste of time. Voter ID laws, intimidation, and purging eligible voters is meant to suppress opposition to Republican’s corporatist agenda where a few wealthy white men controlled the country, and it is just a matter of time before two-hundred years of democracy are lost to a fascist corporate takeover. It is easy to place all the blame on Republicans, but they would not wield their considerable power if Democrats would turn up at the polls. Regardless of the Republican tactics to suppress the vote, it is not uncommon for Democrats to sit out elections to show their displeasure at their party’s representatives and it is the height of stupidity to think they are punishing anyone but themselves and their fellow citizens.
Voting is a privilege that is abused with great frequency, but it is from non-participation as much as Republican voter suppression tactics, and democracy is paying the price. There is one thing to say about Republican voters and it is that they vote. They vote in large numbers and although they vote against their own best interests, Republicans can count on every registered Republican voter showing up on Election Day, and coupled with Democratic voter apathy, harsh voter ID laws, and intimidation tactics, it is a wonder Republicans fail to control the House, Senate, and the White House permanently. However, despite Republicans’ dirty tricks and harsh voter ID laws, Democrats are still competitive and if they would just show up at the polls, Republicans would not be driving America toward a corporate fascist state. The upcoming general election will decide the makeup of the Supreme Court for a generation, and if Republicans win the White House and control both houses of Congress, decisions like Citizens United, eliminating Social Security and Medicare, bans on contraception and homosexuality, and the end of freedom of religion will occur within one election cycle as the country is controlled by Dominionists and men like the Koch brothers.
Americans cannot say they failed to see the warning signs of corporate fascism because Republicans have made no secret that their mission is giving America over to a few wealthy industrialists. They may use phrases like job creators, premium care for Medicare vouchers, parental choice for privatizing public education, and free work zones, but their goal is clear; establish a fascist corporatocracy and use dirty tricks, voter suppression tactics, and lazy ideological Democratic voters to see their goal reach fruition.
Why am I not surprise that ALEC has their hand on this one too? What does it take to for Americans to realize that their democracy/republic is being hijacked by shadowy organizations, paid for by billionaires/corporations and their desires are implemented by GOP/TP elected officials? As with anything in life, you get what you pay for.
Hey liberals. Since your new excuse for losing seems to be "we were outspent", could some of you explain that to the rest of us who aren't as bright as you? Gov. Scott Walker survived the attempted overturning of his election because he "spent more money", right? And when Obama loses in November, you all will be ready and waiting with the same excuse (couldn't possibly be because America wants a change, could it?...Nah.).
Tell me. How does this work? Are the Republicans going door to door and handing out wads of cash to people in exchange for votes? Or are you saying that they use the money to pay for more advertising etc...? Please explain.
And by the way. If the Wisconsin vote turned out the way it did simply because the Repubs spent more on commericals and signs, then aren't you all in fact, saying that Wisconsinites are just stupid people who aren't bright enough to see past the money and vote for what's right? Of course you are. That's the way you elitist azzwipes are.
Easy Peasy libbies - stop being losers and start donating big money.
Dig deep. Real deep and even this up. You all don't want to lose, do you?
So write a big fat check. COe on uyou can do it. $50k ought to be a decent start, but $100k would be better.
Hey I know - Libs R US could pool it's cash. I mean collectively you all could could up with at least 1/2 a million, right.
Now, how about a little less excuse making/whinning and a lot more check writing.
I keep telling you, Spanky-
Boxes and bubbly wrap. That's the real crying need. You know how much STUFF you accumulate in four years?
With four women in the house, the shoes alone might need a truck . . .
Excellent post Gingerbread Mamma!
Yeah, you have to have photo ID to get into the Democratic convention, and even to attend Michelle's booksigning (though who would REALLY want to attend that?) but don't you DARE require ID to vote! Liberal hypocrisy is laughable. Minions.
And hopefully they won't clean out the Whitehouse on the way out like the Clintons....
IR, there doesn't seem to be a shortage of Romney billionaires lining up to buy his support for more tax breaks, de-regulation, and union busting. Great job.
There is no comparison to the million/billionaires lining up behind Mitt and those donating to President Obama--the liberal millionaires support tax fairness and regulation that levels the playing field and keeps workers safe, clean air and water and protects the environment. The Koch boys, big oil and gas want favors for their bottom line regardless of the harm to the public both economically and health wise.
The purging in Florida comes from the Jury duty list, if your called for Jury duty and you excuse your self based on the fact that your an illegal alien, why cant that fact be used to strike you from the voting registration list. I had to present my Lic. to register in Pasco county. I expect to have to so Id if I show up at the polls.
jollyoldsoul1
so according to you, 100% of the people purged by Rick Scott used this excuse?
The point is that you do not do this 5 months before the election. you do not target mostly Democrats and/or Hispanics. And you do not request ORIGINAL birth certificates in a state where most of those people are transplants and do not have an immediate access to the birth certificates.
GM - great post! As usual, you are spot on!
Crystal - I see you're still writing your stupidity. No surprise there. When the Obama's leave the White House in January 2017 they will do it with class - the same way they moved in.
You continue to prove there is no sanity or class in the GOP!
Obama/Biden 2012
Gingerbread Mamma, bravo!
The GOP is practicing voter suppression once again. Rick Scott, the GOP Gov, who had been found guilty of the biggest medicare fraud case to date, who was fined multi-millions for his criminality against the US Government is now guilty of an even bigger fraud perpetrated on the voters of Florida.
ALEC and the GOP's Voter ID is a classic example of fixing a problem that doesn't exist. The GOP tried it in Iowa this year (along with the stand your ground gun law, the private-sector union busting--both failed as well) but when asked to provide specific cases of voter fraud in Iowa--zero, zip, nada, nothing. The GOP claims it is election integrity they seek and they use the notion that you need an ID to get on a plane or cash a check. The Constitution doesn't guarantee the right to fly a plane or cash a check; it does, however, guarantee every citizen the right to vote without poll taxes or the equivalent of poll taxes nor does it say jumping through hoops is a voting requirement.
Have people registered to vote who shouldn't? Probably but the few cases discovered and reported were people who didn't understand they weren't eligible to vote; they weren't intending fraud, they just didn't know they couldn't vote. Do people, when approached to register to vote,play games and register as a fictitious person? Sure they do, they are the Donald Ducks and Mickey Mouses but those names are always thrown out as are the others that cannot be verified. People who register others to vote must turn in all forms completed even if they know some are invalid.
And I see you are still seeking sanity in the liberal arena. Good luck with that!
Crystal - clearly reading comprehension is not your strong suit. As I've stated repeatedly (I guess you need someone to read and explain the big words to you) I've been seeking sanity in the GOP but, as you prove daily, there is no class, integrity, intelligence or sanity to be found in the GOP.
Obama/Biden 2012 to keep class and intelligence in the White House
@bayllie.....Dims Bussing in BusLoads of VOTERS in dane County and Milwaukee County to Register and Vote in Wisconsin.....I live in madison, land of libidiots, and this is nothing more than VOTER FRAUD. THat is WHY We NEED Voter ID.
BK-3328579
and I'm assuming you have proof to support that and you already contacted the Secretary of State about the fraud.
Not one Republican holding an office could prove VOTER FRAUD so why are you implying that you know $hit? BTW, don't confuse it with Republicans holding office convicted of voter fraud.
Jody - Who is richer, a Koch brother or George Soros? Or does it make a difference?
What is pitiful is that all this bile is being vented on which rich people are supporting which candidate, and what the candidates did in their youth. Were you completely on the straight and narrow in your teens? Especially by Iowa standards?
Who isn't looking for favors from the government? Any time someone gets favorable treatment it is at the cost of others. There is a very good chance, Jody, that you and I are not the ones getting favorable treatment, regardless of which side of the political fence we are on.
It we get away from the extreme talking points, I think we all know intuitively that Big Business, Labor, and Government each play a role in our society, and to try to cripple any of the three is not in anyone's best interest. If Government, business, and labor could cooperate, rather than try to grab each other's money and power, things could work out better. If we insist on allowing one or two of them to increase their money grab, things will fail. When things get out of line, like a community's inability to afford public service costs, adjustments are made. Wisconsin did it by not allowing labor to dictate costs. In Ohio, we retained the union rights, but are not passing levy increases, so we are laying off teachers and school bus drivers. There are more ways than one to solve a problem.
The other thing that is pitiful is the tendency to believe we need government to do everything or the government will do nothing. If we get rid of absurd regulation, it does not mean that we will get rid of the regulations that make sense. If we try to control the cost of the safety net, it does not mean the safety net will go away. If business can be profitable in the US, they will stay and expand in the US and hire people who live in the US. When we are working and making good money, we will pay higher taxes to support government programs, rather than being a burden on them.
It would be refreshing for some of the regulars to post what THEY really think instead of living in the smoke screen of Soros and the Kochs, Muslims and Mormons, Greedy rich and Greedy leaches, MSNBC and Fox distortions, and that extraneous garbage.
bayllie....(#3.15)...just some tidbits from Wisconsin.....There were voters complaining of long lines in Milwaukee, only to find out there were 4 poll workers at the same day voter registration tables for every 1 person handing out ballots....Basically all anyone needs is the "say-so" of someone else to "verify" a new registrant lives where they say they do....Like ," yes I rent a room to him her at my address"....Milwaukee had a 120% voter turn-out due to krapolla like that.
Voter ID ....AND Purple Finger Dye....put an end to "vote early and vote often", unless you're so crazed you're willing to lose fingers for your candidate....
"crystal" wrote:
Requiring people to purchase a government ID to vote is the equivalent of the government charging people to vote. This, "crystal" is completely and emphatically unAmerican. I'm not in any way, shape or form surprised that you would support such an action, "crystal".
I have never had to pay for a social security card, so why do you say "purchase"? The correct thing to say would be to obtain, and I don't see an issue with that.
"lahater"...Some places will accept a social security card and secondary ID, but I can't think of any place that accepts a social security card as primary ID. My apologies...when "crystal" mentioned photo ID, I assumed that she meant one of those little card-thingys with a picture on it. Social security cards are not photo ID...not even if you color yourself on it with a crayon.
Shocked - And who said anything about a "purchase"? South Carolina for one is giving them away and even providing transportation to get people who have none (photo ID or transportation) somewhere to get it.
Mike in Delray
again, your post proves nothing. When you have something of substance, please let me know.
Talk to the Hand
SC's law orders the state's election commission to provide free voter-registration cards, to take a number of training, public education, and outreach activities regarding the new photo identification requirements and other provisions of the Act, and to contact registered voters without proper ID to inform them of the change. But they failed to do any of that.
So blame your SC government, and don't punish the voter.
lahater,
Perhaps because a SS card is not a "government ID" that is accepted at the polls?
Anyone can bring in a FREE SS card and say it's them. Heck, why don't I bring in my FREE gas bill with my name and address, while we're add it. Per these new state laws, it still doesn't prove I'm who I say I am unless it's a government ID with photo. And that my friends, is NOT free.
Independent Redneck
You are delusional if you think the only Billionaires Supporting Romeny right wing. There are hard core right wing and hard core left wing Billionares (actually more left wing than right wing).
What you are missing is that the "swing" billionaires supported Obama in 2008, Bush 43 in 2000 & 2000, are moving to Romney.
As far as the payoff comment. Republicans direct a whole lot less direct government money to businesses than republicans do.
In 2008 T Boone Pickens supported Obama. He was looking for Obama's help to get a monopoly on wind power in the Texas Oaklahoma area.
The Koch Brothers accusations are quite amusing. They win whichever party is in power. They have their business split between energy transportation and environmental compliance consulting / epa compliance systems.
Hussein will be talking on the economy this morning. I have figured out that the annoying whistling between his teeth when he says his "Ss" in a handicap caused by a "forked tongue."
It is your hearing Ben......need to get that checked, it can play tricks on your mind...such as it is.
To deny the "whistle" is just plain stupid and to deny the "forked tongue" is downright ignorant.
Good Morning Ginger. I have never heard the whistle however that pause that he does with the HUMMMMMMMMMMMMM, every 10 seconds dives me nuts.
CC short drive for you.
The rich gonna lead us to the promised land.. I like their trickle down way of doing $hit. Even moroons like us can get it.
Ben: Hard to argue with the resident expert on stupid and ignorant!
Liberal mantra, "trickle down", read a book once in awhile- try the Unintended Consequences: Why Everything You've Been Told About the Economy Is Wrong - Edward Conard;
Oh Ben! That was a perfect way to start and end my Friday, thank you! forked tongue, I hope you don't mind if I borrow that one.
Crystal -
I preferred Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future by Robert Reich, someone who has real experience with our economy.
"If VP picks were stocks"----I think this is a great way for FR to look at the GOP VP-stakes. After all, Romney has told us his strength is management and business. I'm sure he is looking at the VP pick like the stock market.
Too bad he won't be able to go offshore for the pick---VP must be a citizen, after all.
Still wondering where all of Mitt's tax returns are---what is he hiding?
Steeler Fan Mitts tax returns are stored in the same spot as President Obama's college transcripts. Neither one is relevant at this stage of the game. Go Ravens
Nice try, Ben---the statute of limitations is open on Romney's tax returns from 2009 and on so it seems to me we have a right to know that he has been compliant with the tax laws.
Tax returns and college transcripts---even aside from the fact that no one else has released transcripts, it is another example of GOP false equivalency.
Steeler Fan,
If Obama never had a basic course in accounting, it might explain his total incompetence in offering a realistic budget proposal. If it shows he never had a course in economics, it might explain why Obama thinks borrowing to spend will have long-term effects on improving unemployment ... which it won't. If Obama never had a course in finance or investing, it might explain why he thinks losing loans on Solyndra and GM will improve our country's financial picture.
It also might reveal if Obama ever committed fraud in his application.
I just can't wait for a debate between the President and candidate Romney... Candidate Romney will be losing big time..
Fiesty...please pass the popcorn over here and also could you please pass the large garbage bags as I don't want to get covered with the peabrains scattered by the republican exploding heads...
Coming right up...
How do you prefer your *popcorn*?
You mean like the ones Willard mocked race car fans about?
He is reffering to the only Bain venture that went to China, rain-coat manufacturing. Now, let's take a peek at Obama's Jobs CZAR GE's Jeff Immelt. He is moving the X-Ray division in Waukesha Wisconsin. Too another State? No. Beijing China where he is investing $2 Billion he got from his Obama Buddy Tax Breaks. Laid off 15,000 here in the U.S. Nice one.
You're right, Feisty Dumbfux. That was horrible the way Romney laughed at those cheap ponchos. What's he gonna do next, accuse them of being small-minded people who "cling to their guns and religion"?
NinjaCodeMan: I've been told by what I consider reliable sources that when Feisty refers to *popcorn* or 'popcorn' or "popcorn" she's actually referring to popping the cork on another wine bottle. Just keeping you informed.
Talk about exploding heads, I wonder if they have all the (brain?) matter cleaned up at all the union meeting halls in Wisc. after heads started popping Tuesday night.
Next headline: Romney surpasses Obama, which he already has, they just won't cop to it yet. We need a new president. period
What is always missing from these polls is the 8-10% no opinion segment that traditionally have leaned away from the incumbent. Even key democrats themselves are now admitting that the President suffered because of his lack of practical experience and not agreeing with his approach to the economy. They promote Obama in one breath, yet jack him with another statement. This does not bode well for the President.
Harley,
Hear is a headline that was totally missed this week.
Romney Still Slow off the Blocks
June 7, 2012
While all eyes were on Wisconsin this week, Mitt Romney turned in more sluggish performances in presidential primaries held on Tuesday. Despite effectively sealing the nomination nearly two months ago, Romney failed to crack the 70 percent mark in two more states: South Dakota (66.0 percent) and Montana (68.4 percent). Through 49 contests, the former Massachusetts governor has eclipsed the 70 percent barrier just six times - in his home state, Nebraska, Oregon, California, New Jersey, and New Mexico. Romney will clean up in the nation's last primary state of Utah, which means he will tie Bob Dole for the lowest number of primary states carried with 70+ percent of the vote at seven. Romney has eclipsed the 80 percent mark in only one state, New Jersey (81.3 percent) with Utah yet to come. Contested Republican nominees since 1980 have averaged seven states with 80+ percent of the vote per cycle.
source: smartpolitics
Lack of base enthusiasm will be his Achilles heel...
Ha ha ha ha more liberal delusion...
I'll pass on Mitt the slick! Mitt reminds me to much of Bush. Born with a sliver spoon and thinks he has all the answers. The problem is politicians can not create jobs. Politicans can give monetary incentives but that is all. And Mitt where will you get the money from? Do the rich need more tax breaks? To much bull@!$%# from Mitt!
Take some economics and stop letting other people shape your thought process. The Private sector is in a FAR better posistion to rish THEIR money as opposed to the Government risking ours. That's how deficits are made. Obama is the wost venture captalist. A community organizer is ill-suited to make such decisions. Romney would never waste $20 Billion of the tax payers money, even. All these Obama ventures have failed:
Abound Solar, Tanopah, First Solar, Light Sqaured, Bright Source, A123 System, Ener1, Fisker, Beacon Power, Amonix, oh, and what that other one? Solyndra. There are more failing everyday
The rich gonna lead us to the promised land.. I like their trickle down way of doing $hit. Even moroons like us can figure it.
As opposed to Obama whose mother and father abandoned him to be raised by communist groupie grandparents? I think Frank Marshall Davis is his real father.
Crystal - and even though his very good grandparents raised him he turned out to be heads above you in intellect, integrity, morals, education, everything! Amazing what intelligent people can accomplish, isn't it? Oh, right, that leaves you out - my bad!
Obama/Biden 2012 because there is no sanity, class or integrity in the GOP!
@#9.5 Do you think you could possibly more hateful or venomous in your personal attacks ? I mean, quite seriously, you really should not leave anythin "on the table" .... we wouldn't want you to hold back !
Crystal is talking about Obama just like you frequently talk about Romney. The difference, however, is you seem to feel COMPELLED to attack on a very personal level. There is professional help for that.
How about asking Mr Obama at todays press conference what he is doing to stop the leaks that endanger our national security and if he knows who it is that leaked the information on the Pakistani doctor, the Stuxnet (Flame and Doqu) attack(s), operational details on the underwear bomber, etc.., etc.... And while you are at it, how about asking him why his administration did not stop the GSA excesses before they happened and why he did not do something about it after it came to light?
Why does he leave it up to Congress to look into and address these matters, when he can take action without waiting for Congress?
Does he think it shows leadership and a willingness to stop corruption by doing nothing?
Or is he too busy appearing on the View and going to Hollywood fund raiser to be bothered?
*** Just askin’: Why is it that Bill Clinton or Cory Booker going off-script becomes national news, but not when Sen. Lisa Murkowski disagrees with the GOP and Romney attacks on Solyndra, or when Jeb Bush praises Obama on education -- a subject on which Romney recently criticized the president? Are those things also going off-script?
Chuck ........ you have to be kidding me ............. You people play up Clinton and Booker comments for days on end. You and the other Republican rumpswabs decide what is national news. Why are you just askin... just look in the mirror for the answer.
GoJoBiden---"Rumpswab" is what Rob uses to brush his teeth and then he's ready to offer his pearls of wisdumb.
The only rumpswabs here are Republican tongues
I apologize for using the word rumpswabs. I should have used cheer leaders instead, but the point of my comment still stands. The national news media decides what is a national story, and they chose to make the Booker and Clinton stories more important, which did benefit the Republicans. There is no denying that.
The truth about "off script" comments is to confuse the public about real intentions. When Clinton says the Bush tax cuts should be extended, it confusion from Obama that they won't. You can still support Obama thinking that his party will not hurt you, but Obama himself does not have to promise anything.
Yes Barack, let's hold a press conference about your jobs bill which wouldn't create any permanent jobs if it did pass and would cost about $100,000 per job. Even Bush's stimulus- sending everybody a check- was better than Obama's- at least you're getting dollar for dollar.
He's proven his inability to create jobs in spite of spending like a drunken foreigner. Pay me the 100,000 and I'll SAY I'm back to work.
Steve thanks for making it clear your just another republican thief and lier. Take the money and run.
Steve the dog man
Another big fat lie. Government spending per capita has DECREASED under Obama. The ones who spent like drunken "foreigners" (an insider joke Birther nutjobs?) were Bush and his crony Big Chief Five-Deferments Cheney, who infamously said "Ronald Reagan has taught us that deficits don't matter."
Houston!
We have a problem.
2008 Outlays---2,982,544,000,000
2009 Outlays---3,517,677,000,000
2010 Outlays---3,456,213,000,000
2011 Outlays---3,603,061,000,000
2012 Outlays---3,795,547,000,000 Projected.
2008 per capita 9843
2009 per capita 11495
2010 per capita 11185
2011 per capita 11,548
2012 per capita 12,086
Now those numbers use the US population for each year calculation. Outlays / # people = per capita spending.
Will you please show us where the Obama per capita spending is LESS that Bush's? Notice if you will the 2008 Outlay was the MOST spent under Bush.
I don't know where you got your info or how it was calculated. But my info comes from the Obama White House web page. Just select table 1.1 for the outlays for each year. You'll need to be able to read XLS files.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
slodon
Yes, and the problem's name is George W. Bush. The 2009 budget is BUSH's budget, not Obama's. FY 2009 started in October 2008, three months before Bush left office.
I don't know where you got your population figures, but they do show that the per capita outlays were less in 2009 -- Obama's FIRST budget than in Bush's last. Paul Krugman is one of the economists who've been pointing out that Obama's alleged wild spending is a big fat Republican lie, by the way.
Houston! Do you not know what Continuing Resolutions are?? There WAS NOT a FY 2009 Budget. The DEMOCRAT CONGRESS didn't pass a FY2009 BUDGET hence the Continuing Resolutions. Can't you comprehend what you read?? Can you explain why the 2011 and 2012 per capita spending is HIHGER than the 2009??
The population figure come from http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html for the years 2008 2009 2010 2011. I just used the 2011 population and added another 3 million for the 2012 projection. Since that seems to be the average growth rate.
Now WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR INFO???
FR:
Now, why would it be Romney's "best" week? This was the week the AP story came out exposing Romney's lies about why he didn't go to Vietnam, sometimes saying he had been"frustrated" that he couldn't serve when in fact he took every draft deferment he could grab onto and got a religious deferment for hiding out in Europe for the alleged purpose of converting the heathen Frenchies to Mormonism (I'll be you could count his converts on one hand).
Oh, I forgot why it was Romney's best week: Every week is a good week for him because the corporate media studiously ignores his constant stream of lies and flip flops. Whoever wrote the AP story is probably getting shunned by other "journalists."
Maybe it's the "corporate media" being blinded by the glare of Obama's stunning incompetence.
If you are suggesting the "media" are leaning right, you need to review the coverage of the Walker attempted recall in Wisconsin. I know you Democrats are finely tuned to lies and flip flops after 8 years of Bill Clinton, but the media is against Obama?????
THAT's a lie and a flip flop.
Doggy man:
Uh, the media was reporting that Walker was likely to win and the polls showed him 7 points ahead. At least, that's what happened in the REAL world. Things must be different on Planet Wingnut where you live.
BTW: What the media did NOT cover about Walker was his 7-to-1 campaign spending advantage over his opponent. They also didn't pay much attention to the fact that he's essentially under criminal investigation for corruption. More "liberal bias" for you. Those stories were only covered on the evening programs on MSNBC, the place where facts inconvenient to conservatives are exiled.
You also had to dig for information to find out that Walker lost his Senate Control..
R.I.F. = Reading is Fundamental. That information was on this website a few days ago. Maybe you slept through it.
Also, check out the news coverage of Jebb Bush's recent comments about the need to raise taxes, and Sen. Lisa Murkowski's comments about the need to promote green energy, compared to the comments made by Cory Booker and Bill Clinton. You'll have to search really hard for the formers' comments.
The WI and CA voters have voted solidly NO to $87,000 lawn mowing jobs at the City Parks Division financed on the backs of taxpayers while OBummer continues to chase the donations of pole smoking Hollywood butt pirates in return for endorsing their sordid behavior.
“Michelle outdoes me in pushups as well,” he said, after saying that she’s taken some criticism on her technique “because she doesn’t go all the way down” — a line that he let hang, naughtily, provoking laughter from the crowd.
Bye bye OBummer 2012!
Jello heads!
If MSNBC says Romney catches up, that means in reality he is 12 points ahead. Compare the press claims of "close race" in the Walker recall and reality.
Sometimes lying works - for a short time anyway.
Let's see how Mitt does talking about his accomplishments, or the lack thereof. It's pretty easy to stand on the sidelines and take pot shots. And yes, that might get people cheering for you, but eventually, you'll run into the problem of those same people asking, what can actually DO? And that's where Mitt comes up empty - nothing more than a lying flip-flopper.
Obama/Biden 2012
He will because he has accomplishments. Unlike your hero who has none. No job (community organizer) he had a political job once but no voting record because he he doesn't believe in anything. Voting present does not count. The only thing more pathetic than Obama is people who support him.
You have to be $hyting me.. The president's accomplishments (In the face of Blatant obstructionism) have FAR outstripped anything that the Miracle Underwear Man has accomplished... And I'm very sure that is going to come out in future debates(if Romney does secure the nomination)
Then why does he continue to deflect, and stammer, and REFUSE to talk about them????
Face it - Romney's only accomplishment is that he made a lot of money for himself. And that's fine - but that isn't enough to qualify someone for being President. Don't sell yourself short and don't sell your vote to abject greed, rukidding47. You may not like who is in the White House, for whatever reason, but you can't deny that the other choice is not a qualified candidate.
Two quick notes. If there is any doubt about the bias of the MSM, the Murkowski and Jebb Bush are a prime example. If Reagan was the Teflon president, then Romney is the silicon candidate. For the news organizations (all of them), hating Obama sells. Second, Romney's response ad - it's a lot easier to claim that you worked through grid lock when 1) you claimed to be to the left of Ted Kennedy, and 2) you had a legislature who still believed in government and governing. The current GOP does not believe in either - they'd just as soon pass their tax cuts, go home and just close down the Capitol to turn it into a permanent museum.
THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW AS FAR AS WHY REPUBS ARE PUSHING NEW VOTER ID LAWS!!!!!!
Why do you libs have NO PROBLEMA with people having to show ID to get in the White House for a tour or a visit, but are completely against showing ID when it comes to electing someone to reside there?
And what are you saying, RUSH? That Latinos are more likely to NOT HAVE any ID than other people? Why would you say that, RUSH? Please explain. Are you racially profiling?
Demorats will lie, cheat and steal the election, if possible.
It’s Alive!
The Progressive elite leadership of the Democratic Party created the “Takers”, people intentionality made to be totally and permanently dependent upon the Government. The Progressive Governing Elite look upon the “Takers” with disdain, objects only to serve their political whims. These elites consider themselves to be intellectually and culturally superior.
The following is part of an article by John Lillpop, October 20,2010 that appeared in the Canada Free Press: “Whacko’s at the Democratic National Committee (DNC) are supposedly convinced that both the House and the Senate can be salvaged by simply focusing on three important voting blocs known to be treasure coves for liberals. The Three voting groups that Democrats are counting to carry the day: - Illegal aliens
- Convicted felons, and
- The Dead
It is technically unlawful for votes to be cast by, or on behalf of, a person in any of these categories. However, Democrat lawyers claim laws that prohibit voting by illegal aliens and convicted felons are discriminatory and unconstitutional.” The Democrats can create voters as easy as the Federal Government can print money.
Damage123,
THERE IS NO VOTING FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP THE LIES!!!!!!!!!!
Libocrasy- Photo ID required to attend Mooshelle's book signing- both of you!
You rob Peter to pay Paul and you will always have Paul's support....
THIS IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW AS FAR AS WHY REPUBS ARE PUSHING NEW VOTER ID LAWS!!!!!!
RushIsAPig - they're referencing all the GOP dirty tricks they used in 2000 and 2004 to get their precious Bush into office - twice - because he was unelectable. Unfortunately the Gross Old Perverts are not opposed to using every lie and dirty trick they can to get Romney elected (that's the only way he would be elected - fraud big time). It's all the GOP has and since they have no morals, they're not opposed to anything.
Crystal you are truly gutter trash. When you have to stoop to calling our First Lady names it shows how lacking in character and how totally classless you are. My guess is you dumpster dive for your dates as no one else would touch a piece of filth like you. Now, isn't it time you get back to your street corner to flag down your next customer?
There is no sanity, integrity or decency in the GOP!
Obama/Biden 2012
Why do conservatives have such a problem with supposed voter fraud that they would deny voting rights to huge blocks of legally entitled citizens? Even when it has been shown that there have been only a handful of cases of voter fraud nationwide?
Why do conservatives insist on spending time and money on an elaborate counter to a problem that does not exist?
So what Crystal is saying is that poor people who are likely to vote Democratic should not be permitted to vote if it is too hard for them to get a photo ID. They can choose not to go to Michelle's book signing. They can choose or by circumstances not to drive a car. They can choose not to buy liquor or cash checks. But they didn't necessarily choose not to vote. Would you allow voter ID, a government issued Medicaid card?
RushISaPIG
Actually, the voter fraud I am personally concerened about is Romney claiming his son's basement as his permanent residence so he could continue to vote in MA. A bit odd for a man with so many addresses, eh?
I am sure the LIBERAL media will get right on that little tidbit!
Romney's base residence is in Mexico l would say !!!!!!!!!!!!
"Remember the Alamo"
The Kocheads are donating one Million tons of toilet paper to the Romney camp !!!!!!!!!!
Just Askin...? Cuz the media is in the bag for Willard?
It looks like the Republican strategy of tanking the economy and preventing anyone from fixing it is working!
Yes, the Republicians forced Obama to add $6,000,000,000,000 to the national debt.
nazarite
You're actually right, but only by accident, of course. Obama has NOT increased federal spending. It's been relatively constant and has actually fallen per capita. The Republicans obstruction of needed tax increases are in part what "forced" Obama to add to the national debt, although the Bush Recession and the unfunded Bush wars Obama has to pay for also played major roles in increasing the deficit.
It was money the republicans had already spent during the previous administration!
Nothing ever is the fault of Obama! Your Demorat lies will not be tolerated.
It's all W. Bush's fault!!
OBAMA:
These are just the easy to remember ones - don't believe fox news and tea party bull$hit.
1). Bush net jobs was 1 Million after his eight years. Obama is running a 400,000 net loss, hence the unemployment rate has never gotten below %8.
2). Save the Auto industry? No hardly. Saved one mis-managed car campany. Gave them $50 Billion. What did they do? Closed 17 plants, laid-off 25,000 here. They took the money and ran to China and opened 11 new plants, and hired 35,000 Chinese. Worse? Those GM Chinese cars have been imported here for a year. Even worse? Last year GM informed congress and the President of their intent to phase out manufacuring here in the U.S. and move all off shore, mostly in China. And that $10 Billion to Chyrsler? That went to the Italians. Nice one Obama, gonna spike the football for handing out $50 Billion of our money just GM can stay alive move off shore at the exspense of American jobs.
3). Just because some guy has the urge to poke another where he poops, has nothing to do with military doctrine or rules.
4). Seriously? Putting lipstick on this economy??? Feel free to run with that one.
5). He hung Iraq out to dry. It is blood-bath now. And will be ceded to Iran. Nice one.
6). Seal team six took out Osama, Obama is shamelessly taking credit? That is something no leader would do. He is a community organizer, so how would no anything about leadership.
7). Obama care is the worst thing that ever happen to the economy and especially students. Obama borrowas money for student loans at %2.5. Does he pass the savings on to the starving broke students? No, he charges them %7 to pay for Obamacare. Obama care will stopped by the Supreme Court and the People. We do not want it.
p*ssed off,
Well now I am pissed off for wasting time reading your drivel:
1. Rate of growth is not the same as NET Loss - PS. a Freefall eventually bottoms out.
2. Delusional hate doesn't make your opinion FACT. PS. Romney said, "Let Detroit go bankrupt"
3. Homophobe much?
4. Points will be given for EFFORT,...since Congress insists on undermining attempts,...the public will respond, I feel certain.
5. ???Are you this ignorant? Sorry, but you should really brush up on the Iraq debacle.
6. The CIC made the call, and it was a risky one. Quit acting like a Republican wouldn't show up in a flight suit on the deck of a carrier, banners awaving to declare Mission Accomplished...oh wait, nevermind.
7. Umm, Obama doesn't charge STUDENTS jack @!$%#. Are you now implying that Obama is personally responsible for the DEBT that students are borrowing? And you cite that under Obamacare?
It is pretty clear here that you are intellectually stunted and determined to pin your hate and bias on things that aren't based in fact or reality. Run along, we simply don't have time to sift through anymore of your fiction.
Ah, another blame everybody else press conference.... Obama is the only person I know who's had to have his teeth capped due to wind erosion.... twice!
The American people are "Fed Up" with your party and all their Repub A TeaCon Garbage !!!!
Don't worry President Obama . . . we got your back! :o)
Obama/Biden 2012
You probably have his front, also.
Jealously is an ugly thing nazarite . . . here's hoping you find someone to get any part of you soon! :oP
Its a frontal assault. So your safe there.
We do not attack from the back. That's the cowardly democrat way.
rukidding47,
Your name says it all . . . and in terms of your lame "cowardly democrat" comment . . . seems to me that President Obama has cowboyed up quite nicely . . . the GOP knows how to play the part of a gangsta, President Obama doesn't talk about it, he just gets it done.
The GOP is the party of stage craft and non-reality based thinking.
rukidding47 sorry republicans are famous for backdoor deals.
nashville fan - does Obama give you a tingle down your leg like chrissy matthews? Is that your real picture? If Obama was a cowboy, he would be in "Brokeback Mountain."
nazarite:
Based on your posts that I have read today, what I am feeling on my leg is the least of your worries. You my friend are ignorant. My original response to you assumed that you were just standard issue confused, but I know see that you are a class A space wasting board bomber.
Consider this our last exchange.
Nazzy seems you are the one with the tingle (can't say were here) evertime you talk about gay matters. Is there something you want to come out on, sorry, over. It seems to be a major talking point for you.
Nashville_fan
nazarite is nothing but a Troll that pops in, throws a crapbomb, and waits for the stink to arise... I'm figuring is really Karl Rove in drag...
Obama/Biden 2012
Nice image of Romeny, MSNBC. You work so hard to enable Barack Husein Obama.
In a couple months we will be wondering if we need to waste the money on an election. Romney will be so far ahead there will be no point.
You are right rukidding 47 lets just appoint a dictator now and stop wasting our time on democracy, we all know it does not work, we should just put republicans in power with no checks or balances until the end of time. Which according to the religious right won't be long since we are in the end times and Mitt is here as the great posser.
It would appear that the left wing .*****s have pretty much lost it. Can you all say desperate? I knew ya could.
Still along way off... Lets hope Romney doesnt peak too soon....
Obama's failures are too big to hide as the affect all of us. Romney will win out of survival.
And Romney won't win because he's not electable... We don't need a president who is beholden to the 1% and of Norquistian beliefs...
Any one with ties to Norquist or the Kocheads should be disqualify for sabotaging this Nation !!!
That %1 Obama is talking about is a heck of alot more that %1. With his %30 tax punishment targeting people in the $250K, $1 Million THI range, he not targeting the so called "rich %1" he is targeting Ma and Pa. These are small business owners who file individually where 90% of them are regestered with the ABA and ABAA. Walk down the main street of your town, all those stores fronts will be closed. Obama has no head for business and in fact danagerous. He has clearly failed.