The GOP/Koch strategy for bringing workers to heel - is to go backwards and leave us once again at the mercy of Health Insurance companies, drive the debt and deficit up further, drop wages to un-sustainable levels for ordinary families, and take away safety nets.

GOP and the corporations intend to stamp out unions, the voice of the people.

And get rid of voting rights.

At the same time, they aim to put folks into leadership positions that are rotten to the core.

It must be hard for Fisting Red to speak from under the house that fell on her - Look her shoes are red also - they must match her hair.

At the same time, they aim to put folks into leadership positions that are rotten to the core

Where have you been - Obama already is president

My lord, my girlfriend is on a roll, always manages to to first.

Hey Girlfriend I hope you are feeling better this morning. I remember when I use to work in Hackensak, New Jersey for Faberge and was a shop-Stuart for the AFLCIO. Totally different Union back then. Now they are just into Politics. What sore losers. I bet you the rest of the group will follow with Bev and then Ginger ect.

On another note, I saw that Bev declare herself and her friends LIBERALS. Does that mean they are to the left of the Democratic party? In other words extremist. I did not know, lol really.

This President is working around the clock under the watchful media eye 24/7.

There may have been a couple of gaffes which the gop-ers like to mention ad nauseum because they have a do-nothing Nix the Fix party to defend, and it is not easy.

They had to bring out the Big Money guns to get anywhere at all with Walker, who is the hatchet man for the corporations. He has shown he will stop at nothing. Ethics, morality - zero, zero, zero.

Walker is an evil little man and we all know it.

Mitt Romney cannot get hold of the mike without mouthing gross lies. He does it for political gain - and because he is a compulsive liar. Walker is the same. Snyder, Rick Scott same. Etcetera.

I would suggest to all of my progressive friends - you save a copy of this for future reference!

The best defense, is a good offense... ☺

Notice how the Reputhugs droped the Repeal and Replace Obamacare talking point.....for the last year or better it's only been Repeal!

That's all it is, talking points. No substance. Their plan, should this be struck down, is to continue to practice socialized health care through Emergency Rooms.

Funny, but Romney said kind of the same thing when he pushed for his mandated health care in MA.

Using an argument deployed today by the Obama administration, Mr. Romney defended the mandate by noting that taxpayers generally foot the bill when the uninsured seek health care.

"Either the individual pays or the taxpayers pay. A free ride on government is not libertarian," the published op-ed stated. In a line that didn't make the edited version, Mr. Romney added: "An uninsured libertarian might counter that he could refuse the free care, but under law, that is impossible—and inhumane."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303640104577436300587354714.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

If the House Republicans had spent half as much time on the economy as on obstructionism, we'd be in a better place today.

Lots of talking points to cover, but still NO Plan from the GNOP.

They won't rest until they @!$%# up the country.

I see the GOP as usual, has no plan - just objections because President Obama put this through. And, if I remember correctly, they kept whining they had a better plan - just never produced it! Why is that NOT surprising?

Obama/Biden 2012

I wish people spent as much effort to work together as you eggheads spend pointing fingers. Here is a hint, the people that are out there creating businesses are taking matters into their own hands, you bots just seem content on the "my side is better" platform even though many of you don't understand the bigger picture, which makes you look clueless.

And by the way, the GOP does have a plan and if the Dem's want to remain viable, they had better come up with a much better plan themselves. For me, I vote for the candidate with the best plan!

So Sirie - what is their plan??

· Health care coverage has become too expensive for too many people. The number-one health care concern of families and small business is the cost of health care, and Republicans' health care reforms will lower costs.

Interesting, because it's hard to see how this favors them -- especially since they have never offer ways to lower costs. The only way they could lower cost better than the ACA would be single payer. That business in the US are burdened with health care at all is a fact they never address as well -- amazing.

The part about women making health care decisions is even more ironic. So they wage a War on Women, starting with their health care and reproductive rights? WTF?

Obamacare was and is a "piece of crap" legislation. One should not "REPLACE" a piece of crap, it should be properly flushed.

Any plan that does not include plans for reducing the COSTS of delivering health care in this country is pretty much an exercise in futility. You start by meaningful TORT REFORM so that the greedy trial lawyers will no longer feel compelled to "ADVERTISE FOR VICTIMS".

Call Goldberg ... 800 ...600 .......... we want to make more !

When doctors no longer feel the need to practice "defensive medicine" instead of using their highly-trained diagnostic and surgical skills, then the ordering of unnecessary tests to "CYA" will diminish, and with it the costs of medical care.

Can't wait to hear that plan, Sirie.

So Sirie - what is their plan??

Can't wait to hear that plan, Sirie.

Right now... all I hear is *crickets*...

Right! The GOP plan is not to have a plan. They are not fit to govern, as in these last three plus years, all they have done is say "no." That is not governing. That is poor politics morphing into bad government or no governing at all. They are all acting like toddlers going through the terrible two's for three and a half years.

If we don't allow this plan to go through, the entire system could collapse. The only way to make health care affordable is for everyone to chip in. The president is right. The deadbeats should pay a fine. Everyone needs healthcare. It's just a matter of time.

-- So Sirie, what is their plan

All you need to do is listen to Rush a few times (hint, take some tylenol beforehand), or like today's post on the "leaked talking points" they have a "ONE MESSAGE" plan that everyone conforms to, making the GOP "seem" knowledgeable and focused. Americans like a vision, a goal that their public servants seem to be behind and excited about...

You start by meaningful TORT REFORM so that the greedy trial lawyers will no longer feel compelled to "ADVERTISE FOR VICTIMS"

Rather than telling us your personal beliefs for rising health care costs, why don't you cite folks who study this for a living. Tort reform will not solve rising health care costs. This article discusses primary reasons for rising health care costs. Notice, administrative costs for private insurance company policies are cited as an issue. ACA helps keep these costs in line by forcing insurance providers to refund overcharges for policies vs. pocketing them just for fun.

http://www.kaiseredu.org/issue-modules/us-health-care-costs/background-brief.aspx

It was also during the Reagan era (I believe) that the Repubs came up with the "never mention new taxes" which was a joke because the middle class receive the floor drops while the rich received huge tax breaks. However, a great many Americans had the "no more taxes" in the backs of their minds when going to the polls, and you really see the current republicans sticking to the same plan, however misguided the message.

And, btw, the Dems plan of blaming "everyone and everything" does not bode well in the majority of Americans... ask any kindergarten teacher! it's dodging responsibility!!

jim-1455434

Any plan that does not include plans for reducing the COSTS of delivering health care in this country is pretty much an exercise in futility.

I have a plan for the Republicans, jim: they should give up all raises, health insurance, vacation pay, and any benefits that they will get after leaving office.

Rick Scott - the one that stole billions from Medicare (who gives a crap about old and sick, right?) - pays $360 per year for his health insurance. Most pay more than that a month.

Lying, thieving, hypocrites!

Why not talk to actual doctors who practice under the daily threat of litigation if something goes wrong, whether it is their fault or not ? Why not examine in great deal how much MALPRACTICE PREMIUMS cost, and how that cost ultimately is passed on to the consumer ?? Why not examine some of the enormous amounts awarded by some juries in some states, where a game of "legal lotto" is played regularly ???

Sure, you can deny the possibilities because your mind is closed to reality.

Why is the cost of malpractice insurance substantially less in Canada ? Are their doctors better than here, or are the litigation results different ?? Does Canada allow for contingent fees ???

@bay lie, Ranting a bit today are we ? Are you still pissed Walker won ?? All you did was pour out venom with no substance to back it up. Good to see you continue to ignore the topic.

sirie

-- So Sirie, what is their plan

All you need to do is listen to Rush a few times

you mean the stupid drug addict who thinks that you have to take a birth control pill every time you have sex?

Thanks for the laugh Bayllie! :-D

sirie

Thanks for the laugh Bayllie! :-D

and which one is false, sirie? the drug addict part of the birth control part?

She’s having so much sex she can’t afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex. What does that make us? We’re the pimps.”

she's having so much sex, she cannot afford contraception ??????- News my friend, regardless of how much sex you may or may not have, you only need one pill per month.

Here is an article about how your idiot Rush was arrested for drugs

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-1561324.html

so what's so funny sirie????

jim-1455434

@bay lie, Ranting a bit today are we ? Are you still pissed Walker won ?? All you did was pour out venom with no substance to back it up. Good to see you continue to ignore the topic.

jimmy, I love how you keep getting creative with my nick. But that's all you've got because NEVER EVER have you proved that I lied about anything.

You got any facts today, or is this just like any other day for you: FACTLESS?

Since typo nazis are fierce lately, I meant to say proven

Rightwingers seem to think Dems are delusional like them. The Left is aware of indicators in advance of elections, and why the media begins talk of caution and playing down expectations before the election. This was done before the 2010 mid-term as well as this recall, but also keeping in mind these are different from presidential elections. That Walker still won by the same 7 points as last time was the only surprise--folks knew he was likely to win, but thought it would be closer than that.

Are folks disappointed? Yes, they are sad about money in politics, attacks against the middle class and the right for labor to organize. The Teapublicans in congress behave like no other time in history, thanks in part to ending Senate rules that need to be reinstated, but more importantly due to an ugly mindset. Also, the Echo Chamber of FIXED News that prevents factual information for voters. It is all an erosion of our constitutional democracy, and that is disappointing.

Democracy takes vigilance, and always will. Dems, fight the fight, get fired up, get out the vote.

Backhouse It has been shown that this idea of the health care reform decreasing the deficit is all accounting tricks!! Take the CLASS act. The premiums are collected for years before the benefits kick in, which causes a pot of money to build up (and decreases the deficit). When the benefits start, the pot of money disappears and the plan becomes fiscally unsustainable (the conclusion of others, not me, which is why this part has been removed). Yet the left argued against removing this part since it would increase the deficit!!! Only the morons on the left would believe that we can place 30-40M people on Medicaid and not increase the deficit!!!!!

How feeble minded these liberals/socialists are. They seem to forget that their own kind has continually neglected to come up with a budget-Any budget for 4 years!! And they had control up until 2010 and still do in the Senate. I know, facts are damn inconvenient aren't they my commie friends. As to healthcare-come on even half of the democrats didn't like this turkey of a healthcare plan. That's why it had to be passed in the dead of night and why Botox-babe Pelosi said "we have to pass it in order to find out what's in it". What crap!! I may not agree with everything the republicans suggested, but a few were quite good but got the ax because Obama and his minions (being so inclusive) wouldn't even listen. To name a few: allowing the taxpayers to Cross state lines for the cheapest health insurance (I know this helps because my sister in S. Carolina pays far less then my younger sister who lives in N.Carolina), 2nd.-Tort reform with Teeth-it's high time we tell the lawyers "stop your feeding frenzy" as doctors aren't God, they are human like the rest of us and sometimes a tragedy is just that, nothing more-an act of God, but hey the doctors are "rich" so let's take em for all they have". #3-how about letting folks who want contraceptives and other "personal choices" PAY for it themselves, instead of forcing us to pay thereby raising OUR coverage costs. #4-Medical savings accounts thru tax rebates with the stipulation that these rebates are for HEALTH CARE COSTS ONLY. But none of these ideas got thru "San Francisco Nancy or Obama. Why???

Hey feeble Rose of Sharon Joad, shall we talk about that great budget-eer Bush, ya know, that one that drove this country into recession with his unbalanced budgets and trillion dollar deficits to cover wars and Medicare Part D. But surely, your feeble mind won't recall that now, will ya or your fascist friends.

As to healthcare, the plan was a republican plan based completely on Romney care, that passed. Nothing 'dead of night' about it .. unlike your feeble pregnancy that likely occurred in the dead of night while you were passed out.

Tired of your nastiness yet? No one is against tort reform, as long as that reform doesn't stop people from being able to sue for gross negligence, such as having your brain removed when you went in for tonsillitis. Speaking of which, is that what happened to you? Tired of the snark yet?

Birth control is medical related - please don't tell me that in your brain removal operation, you suddenly fail to realize that birth control pills are used to treat many medical conditions beyond stopping pregnancy. Now Viagra, that is another thing all together. There is only one purpose behind that drug, it is called sex .. that thing that knocked you up in the middle of the night causing your feebleness.

Medical savings accounts - eliminate them. If everyone has insurance, and insurance covers medical costs, they are unnecessary. I'm personally tired of subsidizing hypochondriacs and barefoot/pregnant irresponsible Rose of Sharon scum.

Sadly, none of those ideas got across Boehner the boner, Mitch the witch, and the Dandy Cantor. Why??????

Only the morons on the left would believe that we can place 30-40M people on Medicaid and not increase the deficit!!!!!

Only morons on the right believe Medicaid bears the brunt of 30-40M people on affordable health care. Interestingly, you believe the fact that 40M people are without medical insurance. Why shouldn't they have access? What will be the tune you sing the day you are one of them and are diagnosed with cancer? Will you take the high road and go without medical treatment or will you take the low road and make the state pick up your bill? We all know it will be the latter - you will expect everyone to cover the cost to treat your sorry condition.

Why not talk to actual doctors who practice under the daily threat of litigation if something goes wrong,

Sorry Jim .. Hob-nobbing with lounge-lizard lawyers and doctors in Beverly Hills is very passe .. it went out in the '80s. Arbitration is pretty standard routine these days. Why even your concierge doctor will insist upon arbitration.

Meanwhile, leaping forward to 2012, we are dealing with issues such as affordable health care for all, starting with insurance premium reforms. As we tackle this issue, the medical community will follow. You see, their are medical professionals that believe health care is for all .. not the select few. Doctors Across Borders is a fine example of those in the medical community willing to use their expertise, at great personal expense, to provide medical treatment to all in need.

jim-1455434;

Why not talk to actual doctors who practice under the daily threat of litigation if something goes wrong, whether it is their fault or not ? Why not examine in great deal how much MALPRACTICE PREMIUMS cost, and how that cost ultimately is passed on to the consumer ??

Why not look at some studies that have been done since Texas enacted tort reform in 2003, instead of useless questions????

Despite the sales campaign to promote Texas as an exhibit of the merits of limiting doctors’liability for mistakes, the real world data tell the opposite story. Health care in Texas has become more expensive and less accessible since the state’s malpractice caps took effect.

Why have

Medicare Costs in Texas Have Far Outpaced the National Average Since the State Imposed Liability Limits.

Health Insurance Premiums in Texas Have Risen Faster than the National Average Since the State Imposed Liability Limits.

Percentage of Uninsured in Texas Has Risen Since Imposition of Caps.

Liability Insurance Companies Reap Large Windfall from Liability Caps.

Source

Thanks MN Man - tort reform in Texas was first introduced in the 80's to eliminate home builder liability for failed products. I would like to find those references, but they are long gone from google. The point being, once home builders were excused from faulty building, they moved it to the the medical community. Today, tort reform (a Perry love-a-gram) means being able to sell you neighbor a house that will collapse within a year and you have no recourse. It means that in Texas, you can have an operation to remove your gall bladder, but if they remove both of your kidneys, tuff luck. Gotta love Texas - buy a faulty product - your fault. Attempts to collect on faulty product, you are sued for defamation of character.

It is no wonder that Texas is filled with the worst examples of corporate greed ever produced in the nation. Enron, the oil companies, nationwide home builders and worst of all, it's ugly politicians.

Sounds good to me ! Go Republicans ! Get out and vote Republican in november !

We haven't heard much about Republican plans to reform health care, they don't talk about it much, so one could be forgiven for thinking they have no plan at all. So what are those plans that they don't like to talk about?

First was "health savings accounts", an idea they put into place several years ago. The idea is to put aside some money in a special tax-free savings account that you could tap to pay insurance deductables and co-payments - or even the entire bill, if you could put aside enough money. Big benefit to the very wealthy, they could literally "self-insure" and do it tax free, and even earn interest. Unfortunately, few middle class folks could put aside enough to do much good, and of course it was totally useless to the working poor.

Next, the "insurance mandate" - yep, the idea of requiring everyone to purchase health insurance was originally a Republican idea to benefit their insurance company buddies. Unfortunately, Obama copied that idea and made it the centerpiece of his own plan, so the Republicans turned against their own idea and pretend it was a horrible unconstitutional idea. Now, having totally demonized it to their base, they cannot even consider bringing it up again

Then came "Tort reform", the idea that reducing liabilities for malpractice would reduce malpractice insurance thus reduce health care costs. But malpractice insurance is a small part of healthcare costs, reducing or eliminating malpractice costs would have little effect. The big beneficiaries would be companies producing defective products, the big loosers would be consumers and lawyers.

Then there was the "out of state insurance sales" proposal, supposedly to increase competition to drive down costs, but really set up to evade laws in certain states that banned certain unethical practices and controlled costs, thus crimping insurance company profits. Laws like the state of California has. If this proposal had gone through, all the insurance companies would have moved to a state with little or no insurance regulation and consumers would be unprotected - and facing higher premiums to boot.

Their final plan is to eliminate any requirement for employers to provide health care coverage to employees, perhaps even going so far as to ban employers from providing health care coverage. This would definitely benefit the employers by cutting their costs, shift the costs onto employees, and since individual employees can't get the good "group rates" companies do, it costs them more and makes more for the insurance companies.

That's it, 2 proposals that would do little or nothing to reduce costs, and 2 that would actually increase costs. Their only proposal that could substantially reduce costs they've abandoned completely. No wonder they don't talk about it much.

Of all the unamerican crap republicans have brought to american politics this health care debacle takes the cake. Nothing more unhonorable. Nothing more unethical. Republicans would not know honor if it were staring them straight in the face. Even the old republican guard has said it. McConnell, boehner, Kochs, Nordquist, all without an honorable bone in their bodys. And fools carry their water. UNbelieveable.

Yes, Healthcare has raised their prices during this interim period before the measures kick in.

The simpler way would have been to let health care be sold across states and let the market set the price.

TexasT-2966501

The simpler way would have been to let health care be sold across states and let the market set the price.

That won't work. Everybody would flood one state leaving other states without.

beverly.... I would not expect you to understand why flat screen TV's have dropped in price IN EVERY STATE. Pull the string on your back and "Understanding market forces is hard"

They don't care who is screwed by their hate of Obama. The mandate was THEIR only way to lower healthcare costs, but since it was attached to Obama, they refuse to accept it. If the mandate IS struck down they will really have no way to fix the problem at all. Tort reform won't do it, selling across state lines won't do it, what is left? Nothing but single payer, which a large majority of the country wants, but they won't do it.

I'm with no stress - the prices would be competitive in each state.

But to Beverly's point, there may be some medical research suggesting some states are too risky to provide health care coverage and the big boys would stay away; enter the supplemental insurance providers.

wtf does flat screen tv's have to do with healthcare?

supply / demand , why do you think that generics are outselling the name brands in the prescription world, everyone want's the "wallmart" price.

sirie

supply / demand , why do you think that generics are outselling the name brands in the prescription world, everyone want's the "wallmart" price.

supply and demand backed by the purchasing power but that's a small detail. Wal-Mart is able to have low prices because of economies of scale (of their manufacturers), their buying power, and their economies of scope which would not work in the insurance industry like it does with TVs.

The simpler way would have been to let health care be sold across states and let the market set the price.

You mean, let the insurance companies evade local and state laws that curb unethical practices and control price increases? Yep, that's the one. The Teapublicans are all for "states rights" until a state passes laws that they don't like, then all of the sudden its "we've got to stop that - or at least get around that!"

You don't think so? Well, just go to your friendly Republican representative, and call for an addition to their "sell insurance across state lines" proposal to require those insurance companies to obey all the state insurance laws where their customers reside. Hear them thank you politely, then never hear another word about it, ever.

BoTheDog

So, Republicans want to take a piece by piece approach to healthcare as opposed to 2000 plus pages that no one has read

Hey Dawg

Actually, they want to deny healthcare to anyone; particularly women.

Boehnor, just told a two faced lie. He doesn't want people to make their choices otherwise he and the morons in his caucaus wouldn't oppose contraception.

Come on Bev-the-racist.

You know that republicans dont want to deny healthcare to women.

You are just lying to try to make a point.

You have been listening to Alan Graysom to much.

Are you aware that planned parenthood kills 10 times more black babies than white babies - why are you in favor of that?

There are over 300,000 places in the US to get free contraception - why do you insist that My Church pays for your day-after pill.

Don't you mean Bo the rabid racist dog, Bo? Nothing you posted today even resembles the truth.

Wade,

It's good to see you're up and running again!

Welcome back! ☺

Ahh yes. Birth control, abortion, and the ACA. Population control at its best. See the agenda for what it is.

Windows is working for now Fiesty, though far from stable. Fortunate I have the skills to keep my system operating. Ty for the welcome.

Talking to the hand, what is wrong with population control that doesn't involve pandemics, or mass starvation? Either humanity limits it's numbers voluntarily, or nature can impose solutions no one will like.

I heard Congress cannot even agree on outlawing the new drug called 'bath salts.' Consequently, the DOJ had to step in with a temporary regulation to prevent the sale of this extremely dangerous drug.

Is bath salts a drug, or merely a product being abused ? How about the old "Wite-Out" ? Then again, I remember a California guy telling me about "huffing" freon that had been put into a bread wrapper. I guess freon would also be a drug then, eh ?

Repubs will bring down the cost of health care by praying to the invisible gods on planet Mongo

Well, Mike...at least that's a PLAN!! You did more for health care costs in 5 minutes than the Republican party has done in 20 years!!!

Bo - If you are going to waste cyberspace by only posting snide-snippy Obama-bashing snippets, and least be original and try to come up with something new. The crap you repeatedly post has been debunked so many times, it is plain and simply tiresome.

And how is that different from the ongoing tripe posted by "PatrioticAmerican" ?

Unconcerned Anti-American - read 8.1 - same applies to you.

Thank you bo...you epitomize the nasty stupidity common among all teabaggers. Please keep posting and exposing your kind for what you are.

splash - glug glug

Don't knock Bo's hobby, namely that of being a bully who never grew up.

Just more broken promises from the posting left. Come on Wade, there are lots of bridges in Tampa you could use - Just dont wade in to deep - Ha Ha

I will dog paddle out to rescue you - because thats just the kind of dog I am.

It’s D-Day and President Obama is hitting the beaches – of sunny California!

Instead of scheduling a brief event to mark the 68th anniversary of America’s brutal landing on the shores of Normandy, Obama is already on his way to San Francisco, where he will hold two fundraisers before moving on to Beverly Hills to stage two more.

Obama failed to mark D-Day with either a speech or a written proclamation both last year or the year before. He did give a speech in 2009, the 65th anniversary of the event. First Lady Michelle Obama, who has made much of her “Joining Forces” campaign to support military families, also has nothing planned for D-Day. She’ll be in New York City for a fundraiser and then in Philadelphia to meet with campaign volunteers. Obama’s failure to mark D-Day in any significant way is both a shame and a political mistake.

When asked about it, Obama replied - "Its just another letter in the alphabet"

"When asked about it, Obama replied - "Its just another letter in the alphabet"

Proof please

I will check back and see if you come up with proof otherwise I call BS

Oh, Sharon...Calling BS on bo is like calling pig poop smelly. Typical nasty, brainwashed teabagger. It's best to ignore him and send a donation to his group home.

I challenge Bo to take some Obama advice and further his education by getting his G.E.D. A mind is a beautiful thing to waste, an immature mind is just a waste.

Good advice, RedDev...but you know bo will ignore it. Edumacation makes folks commie socialists, you know...

Bad dog Bo, bad bad dog.

I'm waiting to see what he'll do to make the voters sorry, now that he thinks he has a mandate.

I have a few words for you NOENLIGHTENED-2779594, wasting our time with your BS posts

Perhaps you could clear something up for me, Bob. Will the ACA cover the cost for your sick, perverted governor to probe rape and incest victims? I would think you and your "kind" would be all for that.

I really want to land on you with both feet Bob, but aside from disagreeing with you completely, you have not given me any ammunition, Obamacare and the word democratic have not been misspelled. I will be watching your posts.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, bo. So...the Republicans really do have a plan. Cut the benefits for retired workers while dismantling the ACA. Instead of living up to the obligations that were promised, they will just kill off all of the retired people. Social Security and Medicare? If we kill off the financially challenged elderly people that rely heavily on both systems, then it will be even easier to dismantle both.

Thank you again, Bo, for clarifying the Republican health care plan. Let the poor and the elderly die and we'll save a bundle. I've always suspected as much, and now you have provided the proof.

That's funny, I have health care for me and my family. My employee portion is expensive, but I gladly take on that RESPONSIBILITY myself.

Government "SUBSIDIZED" health care is on the Democrats wish list. They want someone else to be reponsible for maintaining their health care. The desire for Uncle Sugar to provide freebies still exists.

Jim, all health care is subsidized. Who do you think helps support the cost of residency programs and medical schools.

More importantly, if you are unable to pay for emergency care, emergency rooms still have to provide you with care which comes out of the pockets of patients who do have coverage. Since emergency care tends to come after the health care problem has progressed somewhat, it tends to be more expensive than patients who get care before it becomes an emergency.

The issue is whether we as a society subsidize care by having people pay nothing upfront and then covering the large bill on the back end or do we subsidize care by paying a little toward the insurance premium but requiring that everybody purchase insurance.

I personally am tired of so-called conservatives who want may to cover the free riders.