More from the exit poll: A divided electorate

How polarized is the Wisconsin electorate in this recall contest?

According to the early exit polls, 51% of voters said they approve of the way Gov. Scott Walker (R) handled the issue of collective bargaining in the state -- the very issue that ignited this political battle in Wisconsin. By comparison, 48% disapprove of that job. 

Additionally, 50% say they approve of the legislation limiting government workers from collectively bargain, while 48% disapprove. 

What's more, voters have identical impressions of the two political parties -- 47% view the Democratic Party and GOP favorably, and 50% have a negative view. 

And minds in this recall were made up long ago: Just 11% said they decided their vote in the Walker vs. Tom Barrett contest since May 1. But a whopping 88% said they made up their minds before that. 

Where voters weren't necessarily divided: A majority -- 54% -- said the government is doing too many things, versus not doing enough to solve problems. And 52% say they have a favorable view of unions for government workers, while 43% have an unfavorable view. 

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For all the good people in Wisconsin. I hope you guys win this recall. Unfortunatly there are several good people there who are led by the powerful media hype and anti union fanatics.

Good luck!!!

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:09 PM EDT

If all of the people vote that can Democrats would win everywhere.....Unfortunately poor people don't always have a ride or the time ....Nor do they understand the implications of letting these fascists have power.....Like Walker said " Divide and conquer" I think Hitler had the same plan...Matter of fact I know he did....

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

Voter turn out was excellent. Latest news said it was at 114%.

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#1.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

Where voters weren't necessarily divided: A majority -- 54% -- said the government is doing too many things, versus not doing enough to solve problems. And 52% say they have a favorable view of unions for government workers, while 43% have an unfavorable view.

I think that this is where most independents are. Government should be smaller, only performing specified tasks and not expanding into every aspect of life (and yes I am including Virginia).

Second, there is nothing wrong with negotiating with a union as long as it is a negotiation and the person representing the taxpayer is not in debt to the union for getting elected; and being a member of a union should be a choice not a condition of employment.

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#1.3 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

Whoever wins, it's democracy in action, and people have spoken.

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#1.4 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

And Eric The Racist Holder is there. Fool

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:21 PM EDT

Division and bitterness in embattled Wisconsin. Harmony and cooperation in Michigan. Both States elected Republican Governors in '08. Wisconsin elected a narcissus. Michigan elected an empathetic roll-up-his-sleeves Governor bending the noses of both parties to turn the State around. Mlive.com/politics "Michigan profits from Snyder's long view" for the story.

  • 1 vote
#1.6 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:38 PM EDT
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I'm sorry... but this news hardly comes as any surprise!

After all, by Walker's own admission, his strategy was to divide & conquer

But a whopping 88% said they made up their minds before that.

This & the record turn-out is certainly good news for the Democrat's!

The choice is simple, either vote Walker out or let him do the 'perp' walk in hand-cuffs!

  • 11 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

So sorry....Right about the turnout....Like I said Above...If everyone votes, Democrats win...

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#2.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

That is the problem, all US citizens should vote, it is easy and getting a state approve ID is free and simple. But Non US citizens, Criminals doing time should not vote. In Wisconson, more non State Union, taxpayers, and privite union workes showed up more then the State Union members. Thank God, there is hope for America.

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#2.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:27 PM EDT
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People that are against unions and collective bargaining are just jealous...

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:10 PM EDT

But they sure love 40 hour work weeks and overtime pay.............

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#3.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:16 PM EDT

Well philly - it seems as though the people have spoken. Now onward to the November elections and the huge loss of Obama.

What you liberals can't seem to grasp is there are more people in this country that do NOT want your agenda. We conservatives know liberals will never compromise, so you will have chosen to make your way into mediocrity. Finally!

  • 9 votes
#3.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:12 PM EDT
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Feisty,

It is going to be a long night.

These dribbles of "early" exit polling will keep all of us political posters at the ready.

Cheers!!!

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Reply#4 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:13 PM EDT

These dribbles of "early" exit polling will keep all of us political posters at the ready.

Hi Northstar,

I don't think we are going to get a clear winner this evening... but ultimately Barrett will prevail! ☺

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#4.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:40 PM EDT

and don't forget: -- 10-12% of Wisconsin electorate voted in absentee voting, and those numbers are not reflected in any exit polling today.

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:00 PM EDT

If the Democrats gain just one seat in the state Senate tonight, they would control that chamber in Madison.


Walker is still red meat. He is going to jail. Don't forget the Jobs number still will come out in the end of June. Those people who voted for Walker obviously were confused by Koch bros., Alec, & NRA money.


Citizens United won tonight not Walker!!!

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#4.3 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:05 PM EDT

carrot top -I don't think we are going to get a clear winner this evening... but ultimately Barrett will prevail!

The 'pundits' called the Walker - Barrett race 'too close to call', lol! I'm afraid the old liberal media and the progressives all took a direct hit from a conservative 'cow pie' last night with lasting implications! It wasn't even close with Walker winning.... 58-41%! !!!

I have no doubt that the exit polls showing obama leading Romney by 7% is also a fabrication!

How's that hangover this morning carrot top? Romney 2012, for real Hope and Change!

  • 6 votes
#4.4 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 8:20 AM EDT
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http://gazettextra.com/news/2012/jun/04/second-statewide-recount-may-decide-tuesdays-recal/

Feisty,

If the margin is less than .05% then recount will take at least 6-8weeks....

We in MN have been there and done that more than once in recent years.:)

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:51 PM EDT

No recount needed as much as you liberals wanted one... It appears as though the numbers indicate an almost landslide. I guess you liberals were hoping against hope but the voters are much smarter than you are.

60% to 40%.... WTG Walker!

I guess so much for the Tea Party! ROFL!!!! I've always said liberals live in their own little itty bitty world.... What happened tonight is a referendum against liberalism, union thuggery and democrats in general... all in a blue state too! I have tissues for all the liberals if you need them.

  • 7 votes
#5.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:17 PM EDT

Brian b,

Good to see you.

It is now 10:41 and Walker is winning 54 to 45 % with 88% of the votes counted.

Liberal democrats and public employee union lost.

But your summary is an overreach.

I have been part of the losing side and the winning side in many elections in my lifetime. I don't need any tissues but thanks for the offer.

As a woman once said, "tomorrow is another day." Lot of truth...

  • 2 votes
#5.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:48 PM EDT

Congratulations to the folks in Wisconsin! It is very satisfying to see that a large majority of your citizens have embraced the concept of fiscal responsibility in government. God bless Scot Walker and his efforts to free your state from the irresponsible public service unions that seek to mortgage your children's future for benefits that todays economy cannot provide.

  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:53 PM EDT
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Why don't Obama run on his record. He has all these great accomplishments like Obamacare and that stimulus and what about his economy. What about all the billions of taxpayer dollars he invested in green energy and the wonderful returns we got on the investment. Come on Obama lets bring these great accomplishments into the spotlight.

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 7:56 PM EDT

and what is YOUR problem?

The President's record is fantastic - consider Bin Laden and the other numerous terrorists, ending the Iraq invasion, getting rid of Ghadaffi without loss of any American life - as well as his domestic record measured against Romney as Governor and as head of Bain AND against Dubya....

All you TEA/RNC naysayers are a hoot trying to sell voters your lies.

But what on earth does your post have to do with Governor Walker's recall????????

Troll!

  • 5 votes
#6.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:06 PM EDT

Americans sell votes and not buy them with taxpayer dollars. Walker is an American and you are a socialist two different outlooks. Socialism is a proven failure.

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#6.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:18 PM EDT

"ending the Iraq invasion,"

The invasion was 2003 and the agreement to pull out of Iraq was done in 2008.

"getting rid of Ghadaffi without loss of any American life"

U.S. didn't get rid of him, NATO did

"as well as his domestic record measured against Romney as Governor"

Really? ok..........

"But what on earth does your post have to do with Governor Walker's recall????????"

Don't know, but you bit and it's funny!!

  • 2 votes
#6.3 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:43 PM EDT

HAHAHAHA!

yeah... you trolls got me.

hehehehe.

Golly - and to think everyone reading this vine can see all this.....

including your poor, lame, assinine RNC/TEA spin, lies and "explainations" that don't hold water and can be seen for what they are.

trolls.

    #6.4 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 9:58 PM EDT

    Not as , you can tell by your name you are a Democrat. True Increasing the national Debt by 1,300,000,000,000.00 a year is being a good Democrat. Using the IRS to inforce Health Care laws is good in the sight of Democrats. Stealing from everyone that makes more then you do is good in the sight of Democrats, Appointing Czars to important positions without Congressional approval is good in the sight of Democrats, the problem is we are a Republic, and the rest of us have rights too. Most of us will fight to prevent you from perverting the Constitution, and making sure it is still the law of the land.

    • 1 vote
    #6.5 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

    But you are willing to support a man who has pledged to put the interests of Norquist, Rove, the Kochs and the 1%wealthy above the best interests of the United States, aren't you Michael...

    Sort of makes you a grand hypocrit doesn't it.

    We can tell by your post that you are an unthinking RWNJ unable to see past the next dollar, without any regard for this nation...

    Romney has poledged his allegience to Grover, so what is he going to do if he is elected? He is unable to fulfill the Constitutional obligations; yet YOU support him.

    Funny how you RWNJ's like to spout off about the Constitution when it suits you, but are willing to ignore it when it is at variance with the RNC-TEA platform planks....

    Really NOT so funny... just sad.

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    #6.6 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:13 PM EDT

    It would seem that Not as Supid as yo uthink may be just that!

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    #6.7 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 8:49 AM EDT

    yeah,yeah,yeah Ben =

    We know...

    You only WISH

    so that I would just accept the garbage you spew as fact without punishing you with the truth.

    Guess I am pretty inconvenient for you, huh....

    Norquist said his group plans to spend about $8 million in the campaign season preceding the Nov. 6 elections, highlighting candidates who have signed the pledge and those who have not.

    Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has signed the pledge. So did nine of the 10 initial Republican presidential candidates.

    Norquist's pledge, which started in 1986, has become Republican dogma for many federal or local party candidates.

    Only six Republicans in the House of Representatives have not signed the pledge. Seven Republican senators have not signed.

    © 2012 Thomson/Reuters. All rights reserved.

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    #6.8 - Wed Jun 6, 2012 10:29 AM EDT
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    Obama is god. Free housing free cars free phones free food free everthing and all we have to do is print money and borrow. Why didn't some body else think of this. The tingle is going down my leg

    • 1 vote
    Reply#7 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:08 PM EDT

    No 1776 that's piss running down your leg, the tingle goes up. FYI

      #7.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:48 PM EDT

      Hey 1776,

      All this free stuff and yet you would think the president has INCREASED spending dramatically. It is fact however that President Obama has increased the amount of spending our nation has committed itself to the least amount out of the last 6 presidents. Tax and spend democrats is what you call us but look at histrorical numbers and you will see out of the last 6 presidents.......the Democrats Increased spending less than any one else, conversely your god Ronald Regaen increased spending the most. Funny how you believe the hype based on debt number not really thinking that some of the debt is from previous obligations.

      Its hard to swallow so you may want to chew a little longer before trying.

      • 1 vote
      #7.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:39 PM EDT
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      Hey stupid why are you bashing me. With all his great accomplishments why don't he run on his record.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#8 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 8:11 PM EDT

      Feisty is always so right and knows evrything I cant understand how she was so wrong on this result must be something wrong with her thinking(if she ever thinks)!!!!!!!

        Reply#9 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:14 PM EDT

        @1776freedom#8: Um,uh, the President is running on his record. See, ummm, He took office in 2009. He's been serving all this time, visible to us all. Right cher! Problem is 17; Uh, don't mind if I call you 17 do you? Well, anyway see, the republicans were there serving too. Now, that there is a serious problem 17. See?, these republicans made themselves a record too. I mean a gwaddamn ugly record! 17!, them republicans made themselves a record so repulsive, grass, and even some self respecting weeds just keel over and die at their sight. At right air is the mainest problem 17. Then 17, you got your Romney. Gwad!, what a proposition that is. He's ah trying to hide most of His record. The rest of It He's ah trying to change! Gwaddamn 17!, all them republicans got themselves in a mess. I mean an ass shining mess! They all are running around ah trying to camouflage their records, but most of the people know the difference between a rat and an elephant, and they just ain't buying. Hope I helped you there 17.

          Reply#10 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:22 PM EDT

          At least the House Republicans are making a record, and a much better one then the Senate Democrats have done. One good thing if the Republicans take the Senate All those bills that have been sitting on Reid's desd for the last 2 years will get a chance to pass. Since 06 the Democrat Congress has done nothing to help out the average citizen. There answer for everything is to raise taxes, raise spending, increase the Debt, and bail out rich Democrat campain contrubiters, to the Obama election fund (remember he wants to raise 1 billion dollars). Now in Wisconson there is a reason for hope and change. The people have spoken.

          • 1 vote
          #10.1 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

          Hey 300,

          See my post above because you spew the same BS that alot on the far right spew. Look up the facts and the records before you speak please. Well you can say all you want there is no crime against making yourself look dumb.

          Regards,

          • 1 vote
          #10.2 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:42 PM EDT

          The Debt was 10 trillion from all the privious presidents, now it will be nearly 16 trillion (and he is going to ask for another debt limit increase). You can't mess with the truth. And the only reason it is that low is because the Republicans in the House. I am not worried about being a fool in the sight of Democrats, I consider it a badge of Honor. When a fool like you call me a fool, that is the highest form of flattery I can recieve, thank you.

          • 1 vote
          #10.3 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:51 PM EDT
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          Yeah right Obama up by 11 in Wisky just like exit poll said Walker and what's his name were at 50/50. MSNBC is the worst network on TV. Sorry liberals you got your arrrrzes handed to you and it ain't lokkin' good for November either. As for all elections would be won if all Dems. voted LMAO many registered Dems are conservative and intelligent enuff to realize the lib agenda is destroying this country!!

          • 1 vote
          Reply#11 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:45 PM EDT

          Me211 you cannot be dumb enough to have believed Rex Nutting's column. It has already been shot full of holes.

            Reply#12 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:51 PM EDT

            He gets his taking points from him, they know no other way.

              Reply#13 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 10:52 PM EDT

              Reading these comments and election results assures my contention that Wisconsin is clearly one of the most ignorant states in the union. 2 people funded this campaign for Walker with millions of dollars. Do you really think it was for humanitarian reasons. When you eliminate collective bargaining millionaires dont have to pay fair wages. Worst than that who in their right mind would take a job as a public servant in Wisconsin? So keep cheering for the conservative as he imprisons you in 8 dollar an hour Cheese factories.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#14 - Tue Jun 5, 2012 11:57 PM EDT

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                Reply#15 - Thu Jun 7, 2012 2:04 AM EDT
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