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Subscribe to RSSMASSACHUSETTS: The story that just keeps on keepin’ on… “Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren acknowledged for the first time late Wednesday night that she told Harvard University and the University of Pennsylvania that she was Native American, but she continued to insist that race played no role in her recruitment,” the Boston Globe writes.
Warren said in a statement, “At some point after I was hired by them, I . . . provided that information to the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard. My Native American heritage is part of who I am, I’m proud of it and I have been open about it.”
The Globe does point out: “Two key people who recruited her to Harvard have said they did not know of her purported heritage or take it into account when hiring her. The school did not promote her as a Native American when she was hired, despite the fact that it was under intense pressure to diversify its faculty with more minorities.”
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Please don't give Indian Princess Spreading Cheet anymore fire water.
Hey everyone, guess what? The rich are still paying 15% taxes and most of us are paying over 25%. Every political story that comes out that is not about that fact, is a distraction so the rich can continue to pay 15% and the rest of us 25%. And the difference between Brown and Warren is that Brown signed the Grover Norquist No New Tax Pledge. He supports the shrinking of the middle class. And the rich are STILL paying 15% and we are paying over 25%.
HOLE: But I thought that was all part of Gods plan. Doesen't he want working stiffs to pay double what the leisure class pays??? After all, they are the "Job Creators", ain't they???
These bastards are so afraid of Gover Norquest it's downright embarrassing. Out of the entire GOP Congress, only a handful have refused to sign it.
My adoptive mother was 1/8 Cherokee, and believe it or not, when I was adopted in 1961, they took her Cherokee heritage into account - back then, they tried to match babies to parents according to race, and because she was eligible for tribal membership (although she never bothered to sign up) they ended up with me, and all I know is that I'm somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 Cherokee, plus the Scots-Irish and French. My mom's family are all big, ruddy folk who just look like your average white folks from the midwest, and I look about as Cherokee as Sam Bradford. My mom always told me to mark down my Cherokee heritage on any form that I filled out because, as she said, you just never know. (I think she thought there might have been some money in it somewhere, which there might have been if anyone in her family had ever bothered to register!) So - I dutifully mark down "Native American" and "Caucasian," but I don't think I've ever gotten a job or not gotten a job because of either of those designations.
I don't see any reason why Barack Obama couldn't mark down his race as "Caucasian," if he wanted to - mostly, people go by what you LOOK like, though, and if a person doesn't LOOK ethnic, then I don't think they're going to get any benefits for BEING ethnic!!! (Did Sam Bradford get any special consideration for being part Cherokee? I doubt it...) At any rate, I don't see where it's that big a deal.
At the end of a long day occassionally peeking in to the forums, I am left with one unavoidable conclusion. The right-wingers either outright lie about facts or twist them so much to their advantage that all truth was left far behind. And to think that these people are about half of our population. Somewhere on one of these posts Plotinus showed testing that indicated the more conservative (right wing) one is, the lower their intelligence scores. I wonder if they have tests for ethical scoring? If not, maybe they need to.
What alternate reality do you come from? It is the Democratic candidate for Senate who lied about her ancestry.
urong,
My parents and grandparents on both sides of the family told us that we had Cherokee back down the line. Me, like Warren, never questioned it. It would seem quite plausible that anyone whose family has been in America for the number of generations that mine has would have some Cherokee blood. Whether or not it can be "proven" that I have, I still mention it occassionaly. Does that make me a liar? Think not. Nor do I feel a need for DNA testing to prove it. What my family passed down to me is plenty good.
As far as her leveraging this to get a job, methinks you need to read some more. Perhaps the spokesman for the law school was using it for some kind of leverage, but she never did.
And I also think it speaks highly of her that she appears to be proud of this heritage. Most of the white folk used to think the only good indian was a dead indian, remember?
There is nothing in the actual facts of the story to indicate that Ms. Warren lied about anything. She is part Native American, just as much as the current Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There is also nothing in the facts to indicate that she ever used this fact of her heritage for personal gain or advantage over anyone.
If you would take the time to read the actual facts, you might realize how stupid your question really is.
Sorry to awaken you, Dem, but the lady is a liar. And I will be happy to compare the right wing intellect and ethics with you or any of your 'what-have-you-given-me-lately, Obama' group.
hjack,
Where did she lie? She simply stated what her family had told her. This is what I was getting at in my original post. You are taking the FACT that she has not been able to or taken the time to back up her statement and twisting it to make her look like a liar. Typical reichwing tactic.
Try this one on for size then. http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
I did some searches and came up with the above link. The search engines are full of the same info so if you're interested just take your pick. There was even one that was somewhat apologetic about it and tried to show extenuating circumstances that made you guys look so stupid in the tests. From your post and your uncanny ability to twist facts to fit your emotional state, I would assume you fit into the little red square down at the bottom left on the page I listed. A little above baboons, probably.
OK, but you'll have to go find some first. ;-)
I'm trying to figure out why this is controversal.
J.Henry - I agree why is this an issue. No wonder qualified people won't run for office. They get picked apart over everything they ever did, maybe did, someone thought they did, and stuff they didn't do.
Integrity is always an issue. Of course, if you have none, it is not an issue for you.
The same can be said about literacy. Read the facts and you'll understand that there is no issue of integrity in this story whatsoever. She told the truth, she never tried to make anything of it and her opposition is trying to twist it into something that simply isn't there.
This, by the way, is the only thing that Scott Brown has any real talent for doing.
Elizabeth Lyolotta is toast. She drinkin too much firewater.
Despite a couple of Democrats employed at Harvard claiming that she was not hired based upon her phony claim that she is a Cherokee, perhaps they are no more honest than she is. When you have two candidates for office and both are qualified, and one is a known liar, why vote for the liar?
Apparently you've never listened to Scott Brown talk.
Does repeating family history as told to you by your own family make you a liar? Methinks not, and that this whole issue is another reichwing tactic to confuse and mislead the public. Character assassination? And really, it is such a non-issue guys.
My family on both sides have said we have Cherokee blood, and if I had told that story to someone who called me a liar, the fight would be on. Don't disrespect my ancestors.
Can I prove it? Of course not. Nor would I waste my time trying to if someone challenged me on it. My father and mother's words were good enough. But it is kinda interesting and maybe someday I'll find it worthwhile to check into. Not to see if my parents were "liars" but just for the general information.
My parents could not get certain educational benefits for me because they made too much money. We weren't rich, just middle class with a lot of expenses. That wasn't fair, but that is the way the system works. I went to school with african american girls who got there through welfare. I had to pay it back, and they didn't. If you need help financially or an edge to compete in the job world, I don't see anything wrong with it whatsoever. I am 1/8(?) Cherokee (My grandparents were both half Irish and half Cherokee on my dad's side), and I listed Cherokee on my job application (along with caucasion), it was the first time I had seen Native American on a job application, and I know that I am the only employee at my location who is listed as American Indian out of 500 people. If that helped me get in, I am not ashamed of it. It is the truth. I went through the normal interview process, was tested, I have the qualifications and I do my job well. If you choose not to use it, and you have it, that is your decision. In this day and age, you have to stand out.
This is the United States of America not the Segregated States of Amercia (ha ha). We are all mutts and mixtures of all of the races and cultures. SO WHAT'S NEW ABOUT THAT?
Elizabeth Warren, Senator 2012!
Princess Spreading Bull can soon go back to Oklahoma and do a war dance. Elizabeth White Buffalo Turd is scalped.
Typical liberal democrat identity politics. If the people in Mass elect this fraud, there's no hope for them.
In a simpler time you told the truth or you lied. Then came a time when Reagan got caught with some real whoppers and the GOP spinmeisters invented a new term - he didn't lie; he just misspoke. In the past year they even improved on that. When Senator Kyl made the outrageous statement on the Senate floor that 97% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions, he didn't even blink. His office quickly told us that it was not intended to be a statement of fact. I'm assuming that this is the new standard, so I sugest that Ms. Warren just simply adopt that phrase and we can then move on to what she and Senator Brown think should be our national priorities.
Two wrongs do not make a right. The Democrat in Mass is a liar!
What is it with that part of the country where they lie their a-ses off. You got Bloomingwhatever in Conn. "Killing Cong in the jungles of Vietnam" but never left the States and was in the reserves to boot but declared he was a Vietnam vet and now she has "high cheekbones" so that makes her 1/32 Cherokee. Those two people aren't very happy being who they are so they have to make stuff up. Does she call her husband "Chief" and does she use the command "How" around the house very much? Does she wear a headdress made of feathers too? How much dumber can it get for her. The votes should send her ass packing back to the tribe IMO.
She lyolotta. Yatta Hey.
Elizabeth "Spreading Bull" Warren speak with forked tongue.
Her "family" told her that she was part Native American.
Okay... it's not true.
Brown is bought and paid for by Wall Street. Warren BELIEVED she was part Native American.
Which will harm me ???
Brown... he is a dirt bag. AND if you are not from MA shut the @!$%# up. It's not your election.
Elizabeth "Spreading Bull' speak with forked tongue. She Lyolotta. No cigar.
The country pays for your mistakes so we do have a right to express an opinion. You and your kind stuck us with Teddy Kennedy and the rest of the Kennedy clan. Vote with your eyes open this time please!
Hannah having Teepee fever breakdown. No drink firewater Hannah.
The lying liberal has been scalped.
Would they be happier if she falsified the forms to say she was not Native American -- like that Republican who falsified his college course this week?
To the 35 people bragging about being IRISH, then saying everyone is a bunch of chiselers, gaming the system, using the system and you work for everything you got....Who gives a flying shanty crap. I am half Irish and I hate it. All you people do is bitch about EVERYTHING from The English, to the Pope, to you have to scrimp and work for everything you got. Then bully for you. You don't want a freebie, then don't take it but; shut up with the poor, pitiful, Maggie O'Leary me story. If someone else gets something and you didn't want it because you are "too smart" to take it. Than keep it your secret...Oh great island of Martayrs....I'll stick with being Italian. They'll take it and not bitch about others taking it. iIf an Italian didn't get it; you make darn sure they would figure out how to get it themselves-and not be bitching about it.
This woman Warren. I know her from many moons ago. She live in our village. Her Indian name is "Spread Eagle". She drink too much fire water and tell big lies like she is 1/32 white. I make her gather firewood for three days to listen to the rest of her buffalo bullsh-t. I listen to her and make her go away. I go to movies one day and I see she an actor with black face carrying Jane's suitcase through jungle. This was 1935 Tarzan movie. Only thing she say in whole movie was "make it feel good Tarzan". She say this over and over again just like when she was around here many moons ago. Now she wants to go to Senate to heap big bullsh-t party. She want to spend too many beads so I say NO!!!!!! Scott Brown want to spend too much too. I say NO to Scott Brown and vote for THUNDER STICK PARTY. I stay home and watch lacrosse no vote.
John Smith, George Custer, Lewis and Clark all Poca Elizabeth "Lyolotta" Warren.
Lets bury her up to her neck in an anthill in the Mojave with wet rawhide tied around her forehead. We make her talk. Yetta hey.
That make her horny.No?
Indian Princess Elizabeth Warren the new poster child for Affirmative Action. It worked for her, maybe it could work for you.
Dems bet on a "Crazy Horse."
Elizabeth 'No @!$%#ting Bull."